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Title: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on November 15, 2004, 09:47 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2004/ROTScardobi-wan1.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2004/ROTScardmace1.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2004/ROTScardtion1.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2004/ROTScardr4g91.jpg)

There ya have 'em, action features and all.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on November 15, 2004, 09:49 PM
From first glance, I like and hate Obi-Wan. It's cool that he has both a lit and unlit saber, but that shoulder joint with the raised arm- blech.

Mace- well, it's a Mace figure, so my expectations are low. This about meets them, but slighty lower, since there's no gawddamn cloak.

R2 unit- meh, it's been done.

Tion- bring it on. Crazy aliens kick ass. :)
Title: Woops, Chewie was first, merge away!
Post by: Vator on November 15, 2004, 09:49 PM
http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3618&zoneid=2

They look helluah better than Saga, but still the basic figures look somewhat cartoony. However, even the action featue Obi looks promising with a sperate lightsabre hilt.

Mace, however dosen't actually appear to be action-feature laden at all. Infact, he appears to be SA.

Also of note, all the figures looks to be pretty damn cool. Especially the Super Battle Droid.
Title: Re: Woops, Chewie was first, merge away!
Post by: Ben on November 15, 2004, 09:51 PM
Oop. I started a thread too. ???  :P

Much merging to be done.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on November 15, 2004, 10:00 PM
Mergy-merged.   :)

Dang I wish those were clearer pictures!   :(

Jeff
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on November 15, 2004, 10:03 PM
Jesus H. Christ, those BINs are high. $200? That's half a month's rent.

It'd make a kick-ass Christmas gift, though. :)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on November 15, 2004, 10:13 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/11-04/obiback1.jpg)

Both Mace and Obi look to have leg squeezing action features.  This is something I said they should do during AOTC era if they had to do them.  This is ala the old Super Powers figures

Also...check out the backs

Row 1 appears to be: Obi-Wan, Anakin and Yoda
Row 2 appears to be: Super Battle Droid, Chewbacca and Clone Trooper
Row 3 appears to be: R2-D2, General Grievous' Sidekick and General Grievous
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on November 15, 2004, 10:23 PM
Interesting that the Sneak Preview figures are actually on ROTS cards. I thought they'd be on transition cards. So wait, if these are final product for Wave 1,  we're only half way through November, and they're supposed to street in April, there's going to be a lot of leaked toys. If the Sneak Preview figures are on the same packaging as the realt ROTS wave, every toy-stocking knuck in the world is going to just plop them out on the shelves.

Couple other things:

I don't like how lost in the molten much the figures get lost on the card.

If those are Collection 1 figures I'm not all that offended by the action features at this point. The squeeze leg thing is a lot less annoying than a giant button out the back.

Not much surprise in the C1 lineup, either. It sure sounds like the creativity will be in C2.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on November 15, 2004, 10:41 PM
Poseable, and a hidden feature are good.  Can't say what the leg poseability is, but the arms are looking good.  To me I'm not underwhelmed...  So far.

MILES better than Saga's initial offerings, without a doubt.

The photos are so grainy and terrible, that making out any real detail is a pain in the ass...

The astromech I'm actually happy to get, as I would buy repaints of Astromechs all year round.

Tion's been seen so I'm not excited on him.

Like others, I wish the photos were clearer.  I'd like to see Obi and Mace closer up and higher res, but to me they look half decent...  Surprisingly.  Short of them having a possible button, which seems very unlikely now, I'm content. 

I'm happy to see that, even with action features, they're waking up to the realization that articulation is a BIG aspect to the Boys Toys market, and that it can make or break a toy line.  Took them what, 26 years or so?  :)  Way to go.   :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darby on November 15, 2004, 10:54 PM
I'm fairly happy.  The cards grow on me, and the articulation seems to stick around even with the action features, so these are miles ahead of AOTC as others have said.

Collection 1 Wave 1 seems pretty straight forward.  I wonder if Chewie will be new or simply a repack of the VOTC fig.  Another flying R2?  Ok.  Can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Hemish on November 16, 2004, 12:39 AM
Worst cards ever!!!!!.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: amarsella on November 16, 2004, 01:50 AM
Worst cards ever!!!!!.

My thoughts exactly. They really look bad. I'm not a fan of the current center bubble cards and this ROTS packaging makes those look like works of art.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on November 16, 2004, 02:04 AM
Just throwing in my dislike of the cards too.  Figures so far getting a +, and cards a - for me.  Craptacular guys!

The OTC spoiled us.  Won't be long till it's back I believe.  :)  Or at least I hope...
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on November 16, 2004, 04:39 AM
I can't believe I'm about to defend these cards!  :-\

They're not my favorite thing in the world, by far. My original thought was that the figure gets lost in all the overdesigned lava mess which I think is not only ugly, but is actually boring. I can't stand the stylized Vader. It's just stupid looking.

But - I totally understand why they went with the packaging the way they did. It looks brand new. For retailers, I think it does a good job disassociating itself with legacy SW lines. It feels fresh and has a much more contemporary feel. Just what it needs to get picked up by kids, since they insist on this being their market.

I'm sure you're right Jesse, and we'll quickly be back to something more OTC-ish asap. At least I hope so! In the meantime at least the figures even in Collection 1 seem to be pretty solid. I'm a hella lot happier than when the likes of Shaak Ti hit in '02.  :)

The Sneak droid seems to have a great paint deco to him. It almost looks metalized on the center leg, doesn't it? You'd think after selling figures at $200 BINS, they could afford a better camera.  ;)

EDIT: Gah, the other thing is the Sneak cards show the Anakin Starfighter on the back. Would be nice to see a better shot of that, too.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on November 16, 2004, 08:54 AM
I'm with everyone else, too bad the photos aren't a little bit clearer.  That said, I'm glad we're getting little "peeks" this early, because I'm really looking forward to what this line might have to offer.  From what we can see, I don't think they look too bad.  The pics we've gotten the past several weeks (mock ups, preview figs, etc.), the figures all seem to be pretty well done, well articulated, etc., and continuing in the tradition of some of the best we've gotten lately.  Hard to see how great this Obi and Mace is, but from what we can see, they don't look too bad.

I'd just as soon there were no action features in the figures, but if it is something tied into "squeezing legs", I don't mind that nearly as much as the horrific buttons in the back or side.  I can live with Super Powers type of action features, especially since it is quite likely we'll get better versions later on or in Collection 2.  I'm not exactly crazy about the cards, but I can also see what Tydirium is saying about these too.  They will definitely be a shift from the norm, and differentiate them from past Star Wars lines.  They are trying something different, and that's ok I guess.  I'll welcome a shift back to OTC style cards in the future though.  Overall, the ROTS line continues to look pretty good, I hope that continues.  Really starting to get hyped for this movie, and hopefully we'll get more (and clearer) shots here in the future.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: evenflow on November 16, 2004, 09:37 AM
I wish we had clearer pictures and closeups of the back of the cards.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on November 16, 2004, 10:37 AM
Well, I don't like action features, but at this point to me at least all signs do point to an improvement over the EP2 action features.

I never did mind the action features that the Dooku figures had - in fact, I thought those ones were cool.


Here's what I think about these figures -

Tion - very cool

R2 unit - done before, but nice addition for astromech variety

Obi Wan - not too bad, but the shoulders look out of whack, kind of like the POTJ Quit Gon

Mace - looks like the absolute best Mace Windu figure ever


I say bring 'em on!! 

 :P

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on November 16, 2004, 11:20 AM
Who the hell would buy those for $200 a piece!

Holy **** people must have money the can burn
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on November 16, 2004, 11:26 AM
If I were Donald Trump I'd own them.

Hell, I'd hire professional model builders to make my own playsets and Sail Barge too!

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: General Grievous on November 16, 2004, 05:17 PM
If I was Donald Trump I'd be with Melania right now... ;)

The figures look pretty good carded, however I plan on ripping them all right off.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Diddly on November 16, 2004, 06:08 PM
Cards are okay... but I'm sure they'll be changed soon. I mean, we only had a gazillion changes to the cards during the Saga era.

The Sneak figs are awesome, bring them on. The Basic figs look okay so far, but I'll wait and judge them once better pics come out.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Vator on November 17, 2004, 07:06 AM
Rebelscum has pics from a pack-in booklet that shows a few Episode III preview figures.

Anakin's J-TIE (Since it's a twin ion engine fighter and a Jedi fighter I figured it's an appropriate name) looks REALLY REALLY REALLY good looking. The detail seems to be that of a, dare I say it, BBi or 21st Century offering. For some reason I think it looks wonderful.
I forsee a fleet of about 5.

The Wookie Supersoaker is also a nice touch. I think I may pick one of those up just for the heck of it.

From all indications the Episode III line is going to be great.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on November 17, 2004, 10:48 AM
Those Preview figures look better and better each time I see them - and the ship looks freaking cool.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Mikey D on November 17, 2004, 10:52 AM
http://www.behindthetoys.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7007

Carded Emperor and R2.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on November 17, 2004, 11:22 AM
Thanks for the link Mikey.  It is nice to keep getting early looks at some of these figures.  "Firing Force Lightning" and "Droid Attack"?  shudder  I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for now though.  Clearer pics than the last batch though...I see they have a link within that thread to a little bit clearer pic of Obi-Wan's cardback, with a Darth Vader figure included on the back.Clicky (http://www.behindthetoys.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7008)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on November 17, 2004, 12:06 PM
Whoa!!!!  That looks like the best Emperor yet!!!!!!!!

Holy smokes thanks for the link!!!!!!!!!!!11

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on November 17, 2004, 01:16 PM
They also now have the cardback for the Chewbacca figure up at THIS LINK (http://www.behindthetoys.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7007).  Looks like he is pretty well articulated, but also with a squeeze of the legs you can get some "wookiee rage", or excuse me "WOOKIEE RAGE!" action.  Could really do without the action features, but I guess Super Powers style isn't quite as bad.  Might be able to still have halfway normal figures out of them.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on November 17, 2004, 01:16 PM
I am all tingly and such. I wish that an Anakin would wind up in my Wal*Mart for me to snatch. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on November 17, 2004, 02:02 PM
Man, it seems like every figure so far (except maybe R2D2) is gonna rock!

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Vator on November 17, 2004, 04:44 PM
Woah, these pics are coming really soon, eh? Ah well, maybe we'll start to see some vehicles soon enough.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Bob Crane on November 17, 2004, 05:18 PM
That packaging reminds me of LEEGS- The Pantyhose in an egg.

(http://lady_deathtouch.tripod.com/howtodraw/horse.gif)
No sir, I don't like it.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Diddly on November 17, 2004, 05:25 PM
Looks pretty good so far. Even if the figs do suck, I'll still have the superior versions. :)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on November 17, 2004, 06:34 PM
I will wait to see some better pics but these don't look to bad.  I'm not thrilled with the action feature stuff, but hopefully they work out better than the AOTC/Saga versions.  I do like the Emperor.  The cardbacks to me are better than the previous versions for Ep1 and 2 in my opinion.  At least they did something to distinguish ROTS as a movie on it's own.  But I can see why many of you don't like it either! 

So far we know the following are coming out at somepoint: 

Emperor
R2-D2
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Anakin
Anakin (probably Vader case pack-in)
Clonetrooper
Clonetrooper (probably Vader case pack-in)
Super Battle Droid
Tion Meddon
Wookie Warrior
Chewbacca
R4 Droid
General Grievous
GG's Body Guard
Yoda
Mace Windu
Darth Vader
Bail Organa (prototype)
Chancellor Palpatine (prototype)
Count Dooku (prototype)
Yoda on Dragonfly (Deluxe)
Anakin (snapon armor Deluxe)

Some other Deluxe's but can't remember them.  Big lineup so far!

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on November 17, 2004, 06:57 PM
I will wait to see some better pics but these don't look to bad.  I'm not thrilled with the action feature stuff, but hopefully they work out better than the AOTC/Saga versions.  I do like the Emperor.  The cardbacks to me are better than the previous versions for Ep1 and 2 in my opinion.  At least they did something to distinguish ROTS as a movie on it's own.  But I can see why many of you don't like it either! 

So far we know the following are coming out at somepoint: 

Emperor
R2-D2
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Anakin
Anakin (probably Vader case pack-in)
Clonetrooper
Clonetrooper (probably Vader case pack-in)
Super Battle Droid
Tion Meddon
Wookie Warrior
Chewbacca
R4 Droid
General Grievous
GG's Body Guard
Yoda
Mace Windu
Darth Vader
Bail Organa (prototype)
Chancellor Palpatine (prototype)
Count Dooku (prototype)
Yoda on Dragonfly (Deluxe)
Anakin (snapon armor Deluxe)

Some other Deluxe's but can't remember them.  Big lineup so far!



Even though I am an opener, I think these are the best cardbacks (except for OTC and VOTC of course) that they have done in the modern era.  The Freeze Frame ones were kinda neat too.

That is a nice list Darth Broem.  I'm sure we'll see many more, including a couple Padme figures, Battle Droid, Royal Guard, Ki Adi Mundi, and many that we don't even have a clue of yet.

Damn I'm pumped about these figures!!!

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on November 17, 2004, 07:32 PM
Aw man, these get better with every new pic.

April seems so far away.

(Though, I'm sure I'll be bitching about buying these around June...)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darby on November 17, 2004, 11:22 PM
Me, too.  I won't go all out with these as I have in the past, but they are very exciting and I can't wait to see a Padme figure.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: stormtripper on November 18, 2004, 01:05 AM
(http://www.thompsonmotorsports.com/ep3emperor.jpg)

(http://www.thompsonmotorsports.com/ep3r2d2.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: jokabofe on November 18, 2004, 11:26 AM
Droid Attack???  ::)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: stormtripper on November 19, 2004, 01:38 AM
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Posted by: jokabofe  Posted on: November 18, 2004, 11:26 AM 
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Droid Attack???   

I rolled my eyes when I read it as well ::) enough already, I have seen a chewbacca and a wookie preview figure that I am interested in so far, thats about it..
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on November 19, 2004, 02:20 AM
Judging by the action feature instruction on the back of the cards, they all actually look to be fairly well executed, at least in comparison to the Saga action debacle. The figures all look nice and neutral, despite the feature. I've gone from dreading the action features to merely dealing with them this time. They don't look too bad.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on November 19, 2004, 08:34 AM
Galactic Hunter has some nice pics (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3632&zoneid=2) up of a few of the first wave of figures (Obi-Wan, Chewbacca, R2, Mace, and Palpy).  The back carded shot is a little closer up, maybe not enough to see the other figures really well, but enough to read all of the text and action feature descriptions.  Also, they have front carded pics of Chewie, and clearer ones of the others that we haven't seen before.  I don't know if it just the fact that I'm getting psyched for a new movie/new line, but I'm kind of excited about these.  I'm not crazy about the action features, and really won't like it if it leads to a lot of crazy loose arm figures, but so far at least there aren't any buttons or crazy action poses.  How is everyone feeling about the action feature issue, with what we have seen so far?  Are you skipping these figures because of them, or do you think they are passable?  I'm sure we'll get different versions of many of these characters, but probably later on.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on November 19, 2004, 10:10 AM
Judging by the action feature instruction on the back of the cards, they all actually look to be fairly well executed, at least in comparison to the Saga action debacle. The figures all look nice and neutral, despite the feature. I've gone from dreading the action features to merely dealing with them this time. They don't look too bad.

Yeah, I'm sure the action features will be great...until you try to make your figures sit down.

I ******* HATE action features!!! These figures look great, and I know I'm going to be disappointed when I actually have them in my hand. I'm still thinking back to what a letdown Anakin Tattoine attack was.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on November 19, 2004, 11:27 AM
Well, if these action features don't lead to loose joints and don't hinder the appearance, I say more power to  Hasbro for finally getting it right - making us and the kids happy.  Of course I'd rather just get SA figures....

Hopefully the Clonetrooper won't have an action feature - from what I can tell on the cardback it looks like a great figure.

Nice to see Greivious with 4 lightsabers.... wow

Also, is it just me, or does Chewbacca on th carded pic look a little like Harry from the Hendersons?  And a bit too much yellow paint on his "beard" I think.  Maybe it's just me though.

Anyways, I'm more psyched about these than any other time compared to the EPI and EP2 releases!!

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on November 23, 2004, 08:27 AM
BehindtheToys (http://www.behindthetoys.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7015) is back again with some more scans.  They have a very close up scan of Chewbacca carded (front and back) and tried to blow up scans of some of the individual figures on the back (Obi-Wan, Anakin, Grievous' Bodyguard, Vader).  You can check them out at the linky above.  Galactic Hunter (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3643&zoneid=2) also has a scan up of the Vader figure, apparently from Vader's own cardback.  Looks like he has "LIGHTSABER ATTACK!" action.  Nice to see some closer, little bit clearer pics...but it would still be nice to see some real hi-res shots, or front carded pics of Vader, Grievous, etc.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DualSaberMaster on November 23, 2004, 12:32 PM
I am so happy to see that the Clone Trooper seems to be the SA Clone Trooper with new helmet. :D  I can't get enough of these guys, and it's about freak'in time Hasbro reissued this awesome figure.  Hopefully, he will be a little easier to find than the CW figure was.

Curious, that the Clone Trooper shown on the back of the card seems to have the "AOTC style" longer DC-15 blaster rifle.  If memory serves me right at 2004 SDCC they had a life sized ROTS Clone Trooper statue. He had what appeared to be a medium sized blaster/rifle hybrid of the DC-15 and Imperial blaster.  I kinda though at the time it was cool that they were further bridging the gap between Stormies/Clone Troopers with the helmet/rifle hybrids.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Snively Bandar on November 24, 2004, 02:48 AM
Can't say that I'm too excited to see the action features making a comeback, but at least they look a little toned down from the Ep. 2 initial release.  The poses all look more neutral as well, so that's a plus.

More rockets on R2?  Battle attack mode?  What's that all about?  Is R2 finally going to kick some ass in Ep. 3?  That should be interesting to see.

Nice to see the SE Clone's body making a comeback too, but I know a lot of people would still love to load up on those with the Ep. 2 version of the Clone as well.  Hopefully Hasbro sees fit to put plenty of both versions out in the future!
Title: Darth Vader Figure
Post by: Brian on November 24, 2004, 08:24 AM
Galactic Hunter (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3651&zoneid=2) has a nice preview up for the ROTS Darth Vader.  I didn't know if I should start a new thread for this or not, but they do have some very nice carded and loose shots of the figure.  You can check them out at the linky above.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on November 24, 2004, 12:36 PM
Sexy. Look at that clone, just sitting there waiting to be purchased by me. These toys are looking damned awsome. At least the action features dont involved hemeroid looking booty buttons.


Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on November 24, 2004, 03:40 PM
I just wonder if Vader will actually be igniting the lightsaber and slashing at anything in ROTS?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: speedermike on November 24, 2004, 08:00 PM
It's been a long time since I've posted.  My wife had a wonderful baby boy on October 1st, so it's been kinda busy around here.  Personally, I really have no problem with the action features, as long as the figures are not one-pose-wonders.  I still remember the day that all of the E2 prototypes showed up on line.  I have never felt more disapointed as a collector.  It was very tough for me to stomach those first waves of Saga.  They are still my least favorite Star Wars figures of all time.  Yes, I rate them lower than the 1995 steroid  figures.

Anyway, I think that Hasbro has managed to create some very solid, neutral sculpts while creating some extra play value with the slashin' and stuff.  Also (and this one is for you Lando the Scoundrel) I checked out the Saga Dooku with the action feature (activated by pressing his legs togehter) and his legs are movable.  The only thing keeping him from sitting down is his tunic.

So, at this moment, I am very excited about the E3 figures, and think that they might really do well and create some kid interest in SW.  I like the package too.  It doesn't really appeal to my tastes, but I think it's very contemporary and looks like fun.  I can't wait to see Collection 2 (and 3?)

I'll be in first line at Midnight Madness.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: jokabofe on November 24, 2004, 08:01 PM
It's been a long time since I've posted.  My wife had a wonderful baby boy on October 1st, so it's been kinda busy around here. 

Congrats :)

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on November 25, 2004, 12:12 AM
Thanks for checking on that, Mike! And congratulations again on the baby!

I definitely do like the fact that it seems Hasbro is trying to please us and kids at the same time. I just honestly wonder how much kids like the action features.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on November 25, 2004, 05:51 AM
Hasbro's at least leaning the right direction. 

I sympathize with all those who disagree iwth action features overall, however I do feel that they're fun when done right.

Case in point (2 really) are the SBD from E2 which I highly enjoyed as a figure, and the Total Control Mace WIndu.  Yeah, I can hear the groans.

I truly wasn't expecting to like that figure, but honestly if they could somehow make a SA version of the character and then a TC version, I'd buy both happily.  The control feature really looked realistic when you play with it, which was neat.  The figure's not attractive, but fun. 

I still say articulation is more favored by children and adults than action features...  Different reasons or purposes as to why each likes them, but to me kids go nuts with poseable figures.  I know G.I. Joe replaced Star Wars damn quick when I was a youngin.

I reiterate Mike's (Congratulations) note on being SO disappointed with the E2 figures initially.  They do rank low to me as well.  I can't think of many beyond the SBD that I actually was pleased with at all really.  :( 

I didn't do any midnight madness thing for E2...  I just went to the local Wal-Mart and they put out TIE Bombers because they're dumb and held them back with the E2 stuff.  I walked out of the store with TIE Bombers and not a single figure that night.

Was a bust opening IMO, and I think Hasbro had major failure with the Saga line in its initial offerings only because they had an appauling buy-back scenario (A couple actually).  VERY negative thing for the line overall.  They made crap product and the retailers forced their hand in remedying that situation.  Ouch!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Diddly on November 26, 2004, 02:48 PM
The Vader and Chewie look....... okay. IMO, they look like cheap VOTC customs. I'll be sticking with my VOTC versions for now, though I may get them at a later date. I just won't be rushing out to buy them.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on November 27, 2004, 01:20 PM
They all look pretty good to me... the only one that is a little disappointing so far is the Chewbacca - something about the face reminds me of Harry from the Hendersons.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on November 29, 2004, 05:06 AM
Hmmm. Take a look at the loose shots of Collection 1 Mace over at GH. This is looking pretty disappointing to me:

- He's short. Or has disproportionatly short legs. Something is wrong.
- The plastic is cheap. No detail and too shiny.
- The articulated arms are just cheap looking after the nice VOTC joints.

I hope we get a proper C2 release, because this is another bad Mace by the look of it.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on November 29, 2004, 08:44 AM
I was just looking at those Mace pics this morning as well, and it is the first figure I've seen in this detail that I am disappointed in.  Something just doesn't look right with him (same points you touched on)...seems short, or the legs do, a shiny look to him, and also while I enjoy the added articulation, his arms look funky to me in places.  Oh well, still better than the AOTC versions we got.  I remember I always used the "deluxe" Mace as my "normal" version, since the basic figures were fairly craptastic.

Otherwise, I'm really enjoying these advanced previews that GH has been showing the past week or so.  Nice to get some detailed shots of these figures so early on.  The others we have seen so far (Vader, Chewie, Obi) all look pretty good.  I guess if we're going to have "Collection 1 Action Featured" figures, they have done a good job of incorporating features but still having fairly articulated figures with nice sculpts.  From what we've seen so far, I think I'll be picking them all up...especially the Chewie.  Not quite VOTC quality, but it should be cheaper, and well....its Chewie ;)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on November 29, 2004, 10:57 AM
Plan is still to pick up only a few at the start.  Based on the cardback that will include Vader and the clone troopers.  Might pick up a Palpatine early.  Otherwise I'm hoping for cheaper, later.  Maybe a grievous since I don't have a regular release of that, but will try very hard to not buy much.  Must stay on target. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on November 29, 2004, 11:10 AM
I do agree with that too Brent, and I hope to have more restraint than I did with AOTC.  I pretty much went all out that time (opening day at least), and then regretted a few of the purchases later on.  I guess it depends which figures will be coming later on, and how much better they might be.  This time around, the action featured ones don't look nearly as bad as they did in 2002, so it might be a bit tougher choosing.  I'll know I'll be on board for figures like Chewie, Vader, Palpy, Clones, Yoda, and Grievous/Bodyguards though.  The only one that we've seen up close so far that looks a little craptastic to me is the Mace.  But...there's still a lot more to see. :)

On a side note, if not everyone has seen this yet, but Galactic Hunter had a little larger pic of the cardback up, you can see some of the other figures a little bit better anyways.  Clicky Here (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/3671-check.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on November 29, 2004, 11:55 AM
I dunno,  I think the Mace looks better than any one we have ever gotten of him.  So, it's an improvement to me.

I think he looks a little short maybe because his tunic seems to hang kind of low. 

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on November 29, 2004, 01:29 PM
Thanks for the link to the bigger pick Brian.  Yup, just going to try and be selective, save for the clone troopers.  I spent a long, long time telling myself not to army build with clones from Ep II and I did pretty well.  We never saw much of the preview wave, so we had mostly red clones around, not making much sense for an army.  Then I went to Cincinnati ::)  Found some three packs and the bottom fell out.  Some 30 or more clones later that battle is lost so I may as well give in full force.  I'll pay full price for the clones, especially if they end up as SP clones.  Vader on principle.  But from that pick, not much really interests me.  It's approaching the OT in character selection but I expect many will be found on clearance down the road.  I hope.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on November 29, 2004, 04:22 PM
Why why why why why do they continue to screw up Mace Windu figures?  Man, that is just awful!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: JediMAC on November 29, 2004, 05:08 PM
I thought the Mace was looking pretty decent in the side shots I was first looking at, but then I saw one of the pix of him straight on, and man do the tops of his arms (the inner/armpit area) look like ****!  Pretty disappointing, since I was thinking the rest of him looked to be the best Mace yet.   :-\
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Diddly on November 29, 2004, 05:17 PM
Ugh at Mace. I'll continue using my Episode 1 Mace as the "Ultimate" Mace, thank you very much. :)

Obi looks pretty cool, at least better than I expected. I like that changeable hand!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on November 29, 2004, 07:51 PM
Guess I'm in the minority here because I am very much looking forward to the Mace Windu figure.

It looks very well articulated, and I like the look on his face.  Also, it seems like we've never gotten a well done Mace before, and this looks to me to be the best all around one yet.

I'll probably get a couple extras for customs and one to replace the one in my Arena diorama.

I like it.  :o

 :P

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on November 29, 2004, 08:30 PM
My problem with Mace is the arms.  Same with Kenobi.  They both look like big bubbles or something.  The arms look so deformed.  Also the paint looks too glossy or bright?  Knowing me though it won't be enough for me not to purchase them if I got the cash at the time.  However, there are other figures I'm looking forward to more.  It would be nice to get Mace with a cloak for once.  It's like the Episode 1 preview figure was the last time we got him with one. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darby on November 29, 2004, 08:35 PM
Well, count me in for Mace.  It's the best we've gotten of him so far, sans the EP1 Sneak Peek version.  But they really need to do one of him in his robes (and Obi Wan as well.)  What's the hold up?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Vator on November 29, 2004, 09:04 PM
Well, I am not a huge fan of him, but throw on some robes and he should be fine. Maybe, I unno, wait for the Collection II offering?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on November 30, 2004, 11:38 AM
I'll be curious to see how quickly we will (if we do) get different versions of figures like Obi, Anakin, Chewie, Vader, and Palpatine.  I wonder if the Collection 1 versions will be the only ones available for quite some time, or if we'll see multiple versions of these early on.  It is hard to decide on these.  With the AOTC figures, the first versions of many of the main characters were quite craptastic, and we really didn't get decent versions of characters like Obi-Wan or Anakin until much later on...and even those could have been better.  This time, the action features are not "visible" and seem to be integrated rather well, so do you think you will go ahead and pick up the "Collection 1" versions if those are the only available, or hold out hope that there will be better versions later on?  It will be interesting to see how this line shapes up.

On a side note, I am really amazed (but happy) at how much we have seen so early on this time around.  I can remember seeing the first glimpses of the AOTC figures, in prototype form if I remember correctly, and them disappearing before too long.  We have been seeing a number of images the past few weeks, and now GH even has detailed previews of many of these figures, and it doesn't seem like any of it is being taken down off of the sites (again, not that I'm complaining at all).  It is funny that we are seeing so much so soon, and apparently Lucasfilm doesn't have a problem with it.  It has been great getting some glimpses early on like this though, and I hope that it continues in the coming months as well.  I wonder how the ROTS line/launch will compare to the AOTC line, and how it will all turn out.  Hopefully it will be something that everyone is happy with, at least to some extent.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on December 2, 2004, 10:52 AM
Another update over at Galactic Hunter (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3688&zoneid=2) today, featuring our favorite little astromech.  It looks like R2's "action feature" involves a spring-loaded middle leg that operates his "claw" on the top of his dome.  Also, the booster rockets appear to be removable.  You can check out several pictures at the linky above.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on December 3, 2004, 01:32 AM
I'm curious how GH is getting ahold of these figures already. They must have really good contacts in Asia.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on December 3, 2004, 04:36 PM
There are some more picc of the preview figures from Hasbro today.  Along with Anakin's Jedifighter or whatever it's called.  I can't wait for the Wookie Warrior! 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DSJ™ on December 4, 2004, 12:17 PM
GH has some nice pictures of General Grievous  (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3694&zoneid=2) Oh boy!  8)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on December 6, 2004, 01:18 PM
A couple more pics from GH today, front carded ones of the Battle Droid - Separatist Army (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absoluteNm/articlefiles/3703-rotsbd.jpg) as well as the New Clone Trooper (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absoluteNm/articlefiles/3704-rotsclone.jpg) with, sigh, "QUICK DRAW ATTACK!"  Hopefully it will turn out to be a good, well articulated figure regardless of the action feature.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 6, 2004, 01:42 PM
Well they both look very nice to me.  Sorry to see there is an action feature on the Clonetrooper, but it still looks great.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on December 6, 2004, 01:55 PM
Yeah, they both look good to me as well.  I really like the new look (helmet) of the Clonetrooper this time around too.  The figure looks pretty nice, and I won't mind the action feature at all as long as it doesn't lead to floppy arms.  I just have nightmares of "quick draw" action after the Jango Pilot figure, as well as the Pit of Carkoon Fett's action feature (which was a nice figure aside from that).  It does look as if it still might have good articulation though, which is nice.  Actually, looking at that pic closer, the legs of the figure at least look almost exactly like the SA Clone...the ankles and knees both appear to be articulated...at least I hope that is what I'm seeing. :)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on December 6, 2004, 02:48 PM
To me it looks like the same old Battle Droid figure we have had since the prequels began.  Sorry, I am just not that stoked to see the battle droids and Super battle droids again.  I guess I have enough of them from the previous films. 

The clonetrooper looks good IMO.  Not thrilled about the quick draw action but maybe it will be fine.  I will still get it of course!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on December 6, 2004, 02:48 PM
I'm going to curse alot in this post.

******* Quick-Draw Attack?? Give me a ******* break with these totally shitbag action features! As much as we can sit here and say "I guess I'll like it as long as the action feature isn't too bad", you just know its going to completely suck ass! That's the same **** I was saying when I saw pics for AOTC and the massive amount of crappy ******* action-feature laden figures we got that time around. I truly feel like I wasted alot of money buying much of that SAGA ****. Why would any ******* kid want a one-trick pony figure? Jeezus! All these douchebags had to do, was put a new ******* head on the SA Clone (one of the few things the jackasses have done right, aside from their distribution of it), and they even ****** that up. I'm so ******* pissed off right now!

I've been seeing all these happy meal toys being presented the past couple weeks, and thinking to myself "Well, at least we'll probably be getting a good, solid clone figure", and now I see this piece of garbage rearing its useless head. Great. Because Jango Pilot and Boba Fett P(iece)it Of C(rap)arkoon were such great figures, with their wobbly and completely un-*******-poseable arms, that I wanted all my Star Wars figures to be as forgettable. **** this. I think its going to be a cheap Midnight Madness this time around.

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on December 6, 2004, 03:10 PM
Well, yeah you are right Lando.  But this is my warped reality.  I will see the Clonetrooper on the pegs and say to myself, "I don't like that damn action feature, but it's a CLONETROOPER.  I gotta have a CLONETROOPER!  If I don't get it I won't have it." 

That will gnaw and gnaw and gnaw on me for weeks.  Then I will break down and get it.  Open it and then get mad because the action feature will suck balls.  But I will still buy it because it's a CLONETROOPER!

You all know the drill.  It's a mental struggle that I usually end up losing. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: speedermike on December 7, 2004, 01:14 PM
Hey, Lando!  I've got an idea.  Maybe we can go to Midnight Madness together again.  I'll buy the Clone, and let you open it.  Then, you can see if the action feature is bad or not.

Did anyone notice waht looks like a grass and roots base/stand in the Battle Droid package?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on December 7, 2004, 03:50 PM
Sounds like a plan, Mike!  8)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on December 10, 2004, 10:28 AM
GH (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3723&zoneid=2) has a Collection 2 cardback up.

I like how some of those look...except Padme...why the hell did they sculpt her with a bug catching mouth.  LAME

Also.  I like that we get neutral Shaak Ti and Agen Kolar and Kit I guess but I'm not real enthused with Prequel Jedi as figures I guess.  Especially the third go round...and especially since they never really do or say anything :-\

Looks like the Royal Guard has a cloth robe.  I wonder if there will be a Red variant as well...I hope so
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 10, 2004, 11:22 AM
Well, I think they all look great -

Dooku - finally the ultimate version

Palpatine - just about perfect

Organa - better than the SAGA version

Plo Koon - nice, very nice

Battle Droid - great, but want to see 3-pks of them

C3PO - please have super articulation!

Padme - looks ok to me, can't see her face too well to think it looks bad

Agen Kolar - like his natural pose, looks awesome

Shaak Ti - so much better than the SAGA one - looks about perfect

Kit Fisto - looks nice, but his eyes look pretty big

Senate Guard - awesome to have a silk robe, hope they do this for the Royal Guard too

Mon Mothma - freaking cool, can probably use this body for a ROTJ version in a custom

 :P

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on December 10, 2004, 02:22 PM
Why don't they scan the friggin' cardback at a large scale so we can see more detail on those figures? It's impossible to tell articulation on the new ones.

But assuming they all follow the examples of the protos we've seen, I think these should be great. Maybe some of those Jedi can be tweaked into better seated versions for the councel chairs. Agen and Shaak look great. Kit looks like a good apology figure. Plo, not so much. Red? Weird.

That's a very vintage looking Senate Guard. I think the variation is out unless the have a different headsculpt ready. That guy has the Trojan headdress thing happening.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 10, 2004, 03:42 PM
Here's a large scan - http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absoluteNm/articlefiles/3727-rotschecklist.jpg

They all look great to me, except for Kit Fisto's eyes.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on December 10, 2004, 03:47 PM
Is that POSSIBLE knee articulation I spot on 3PO?????

Alright, Padme looks fine, it was just Lipstick :-*

And I was sort of inferring the helmet swap thing I guess Jared, but I didn't say that out loud, but that's what I meant.  I'd love to see an exact duplicate in Red.  Which is weird they are redoing this and not the PT/OT Red Guard.  Unless the Blue guys have bigger roles this time around
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 10, 2004, 03:53 PM
I agree, the Padme looks ok in the face in a larger pic.

I hope the C3PO has some extra articulation too - this would make up for the VOTC one being a let-down.

I can't tell on his knee joints, but the way the pic depicts him, it looks like he has some sort of ball jointed head...  :)

 :P

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on December 10, 2004, 03:57 PM
He definitely looks different that most 3PO's and is posed in his classic leaned back look.  If he does have knee articulation, I'm wondering if they weren't able to get him done for the VOTC line in time and is why he was so crappy
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on December 10, 2004, 04:15 PM
I like the fact the Jedi have more natural or neutral poses.  That was one thing about Saga that really irritated me.   At least that has been "fixed".  There are some definite figures I will be buying next year that's for sure.  Gotta like having a young Mon Mothma figure to choose from!  Seriously, it's nice to see some more pictures. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Vator on December 10, 2004, 04:33 PM
Why cab't they all be Collection 2s?  :-\
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: speedermike on December 10, 2004, 05:37 PM
These do all look very nice, but am I the only one that feels the selction of characters is redundant of E2?
Out of the 4 preview figures, 12 collection 1 and 12 Collection 2 figures, there are only 6 (Tion, Tarful, Obi-Wan's Droid, Grevious,  his Body Guard and Mon Mothma) NEW characters.  I'm sure there will be plenty of cool things in the flick, but there's just no sign of them here.  It feels like an exact duplicate of the initial Saga waves.

I really wis the Jedi had been slighty armoured up (like Obi-Wan in the cartoon) during the Clone Wars.  It would have made the time when they were at war stand out from their day-to-day clothes.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Nicklab on December 10, 2004, 06:22 PM
Pretty cool lineup so far.  So, where are the rest of the Wookiees?  Tarfful hasn't been shown yet (the Preview Wookiee is listed as a Wookiee Warrior) in the lineup.  But I get the feeling we'll be seeing quite a few more new characters come Toy Fair time.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on December 10, 2004, 06:59 PM
Ooh, that big scan is much more to my liking.  :)

Now that the articulation is much more visible, there's something that concerns me - look at Plo Koon's knees. WTF? Looks sort of like kit-bashed TRU JC parts.  :-\ Ball socket shoulders, however.

Kit looks perfect! Looks like he has good articulation. I can see the concern about the eyes. Isn't the CW version a ballsocket head too? Might be a good potential swap there.

Curious about that 3PO too. Maybe a ballsocket head there, too? Looks like he is pretty standard otherwise, but that's a nice sculpt.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 10, 2004, 11:05 PM
Overall these look very good to me - and that goes for Collection 1 & 2.

The only ones that look to me like they might be turds are the Super Battle Droid and R2D2.

As for being a bit redundant on the figure selection; well if there are redundant characters in the movie then Hasbro is doing the right thing.  Would be interesting to see a few more aliens and background characters though.  In time they will come.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Diddly on December 10, 2004, 11:19 PM
Figs are looking great. I just hope we get a Clone without an action feature.  :-\
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darby on December 10, 2004, 11:42 PM
I think they all look for the most part fantastic.  I'm a bit disappointed that Padme is so vanilla considering her other costumes, but then they always do the boring 'action' ones first, so that's ok.  The Jedi are a nice surprise, and all incredible, but I wish there wasn't so much repetition.  I'd like to see new ones myself.  Mon Mothma is a nice surprise, and Dooku will probably be the first one I grab.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Snively Bandar on December 11, 2004, 03:26 AM
Looks promising, but then again, I always seem to think that whenever I see new figures for the first time.  But I'll hope for the best with these.

That C-3PO might just possibly be the SA version we've all wanted for quite a while, but that Hasbro surprisingly failed miserably at delivering during during the VOTC run.

Nice to see all those neutrally sculpted Jedi in there too.  Now if only they had cloth robes to go along with what looks like articulated knees on most of them, we could swap them into our Jedi Council scenes, and finally forgive Hasbro for making us buy all those rehashed crap figures that came in those last 4 horrid sets.

Dare I say it, but does that Chewie look like a ANH/ESB version of the VOTC one that we got (for ROTJ)?  It just looks to be a different hairstyle around his bangs really, which a lot of people have been saying that they'd like to see.  If that's indeed the case, then kudos to Hasbro for that brilliant move!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on December 11, 2004, 05:28 AM
Very cool all around...  Hasbro's articulation jump has me pretty pumped to see that they're finally taking the line the proper direction.  Took years for it to happen, but they're seeing the light.

I see the point about repetition with all the figures, but part of me is happy to see it too since I was never pleased with the pre-posed figures of E2's run.  Just seeing Shaak Ti neutrally posed is great!  Same with all the other Jedi, so I'll be gladly buying many of these.

Collection 1's nicer than E2's offerings, by far and away, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hoping for Collection 2 versions of Obi, Ani, etc.  I applaud the effort to HIDE the action features though.

I'd say the big stinker of Collection 1 though, ironically, is the Clone.  Something not right about him...  I too am hoping for one using the SA body and not utilizing any action features...  I think that's what is giving it the odder "look" I'm noticing.

 The articulation's outstanding on most of the Collection 2 (and many of the Collection 1 figures aren't shappy in this department either).  The neutral stances are great...  Just simply, "Wow!" at this point for me. 

Even Mon Mothma looks interesting.  That's incredible!

I too hope for a red guard variant of the Senate Guards, Scott.  The figure's poseability has to be outstanding (Glad I didn't army build with that crappy POTJ sculpt) to warrant soft goods...  A simple red cloth swap and a new helmet, and you could really have something impressive there.

The Battledroid looks "eh".  I hope he doesn't turn out as pathetically flimsy as past attempts.  :( 

That cardback has the old Star Wars figure senses on overload, but it's good stuff.  MUCH happier with E3's lineup than E2's.  I think we'll see more diversity as time goes too, and many more new characters.  I think the Jedi are just so important they're getting a push, and many of the Council will maybe be meeting prominent fates....  Thus the redos.  Or maybe they're just trying to apologize for E2's? :)

Man, I wanna see Luminara and Barris Collection 2 figures now after seeing Shaak Ti.  OOOOOoooo Nifty.  And Aayla Secura with a normal stance and good articulation! 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 11, 2004, 01:16 PM
Actually the ROTS Chewbacca isn't the VOTC sculpt unfortunately.  Still looks nice though.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Vator on December 11, 2004, 01:20 PM
I've fallen in love with Collection II, officaly. It rules, on so many levels.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on December 13, 2004, 09:17 AM
Haven't been online the past few days really, so I'm a little late to the "party" here, but looking at the cardback, Collection 2 looks pretty spiffy.  I don't know if part of it is the giddyness of a new movie coming up, but I'm pretty pumped for the ROTS line so far.  Sure, there are action features, but they don't look too bad so far, and at least aren't ruining the figures this time around.  I'm really hoping for the best with that 3PO, hopefully it is the one we've been waiting for.  Also, the nice, neutral Jedis are great, and the other figures (Padme, Palpy, Dooku, Mon Mothma, etc.) all look very well done.  Actually, both Collection 1 and 2 have looked good to me so far.

Also, I see GH has their preview up for the ROTS Clonetrooper (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3733&zoneid=2).  The figure looks pretty good to me, and I'm relieved that the action feature doesn't seem to ruin it.  From the loose pictures they have there, it looks like the trooper is still quite poseable, and fits in nicely with the Clone Wars SA Clone and VOTC Stormie.  Still would have been better with no feature at all, but for what it is, it looks nice.  Also, interchangeable shoulder "pads" was a surprise.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on December 13, 2004, 09:18 AM
Also, if the rumor of 29 figures on launch day is true, we now know of 24 of them for sure.  That would leave 5 others, unless the deluxe ones or something were somehow counted in there.  I'm happy with the initial offerings so far though :).
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on December 13, 2004, 09:40 AM
I guess the repeatability is the thing that bugs me too.  However, with Shaak Ti, Kit Fisto and Agen Kolar/Eeth Koth apology figures and hopefully Barris and Luminara also coming the same way, I can sort of stomach it.

That clone trooper looks alright except at the shoulder joints (which is the same with Obi-Wan and Mace that I saw)  Which is I guess because they want it to be SUper Poseable AND have an action feature.  I'll only buy two of those with the thought that a better one will come down the line.  I guess the brain wizards there thought otherwise

How dumb are they?  Really?  Hey...lets make super posable army builders.  Lets limit 2 of them (AOTC Clone and VOTC Stormtrooper) in production numbers though because they probably won't sell

Anyone ever see Army builders hang on the pegs (besides the SBD which I can't figure out why they are remaking)?  I'm sure these clones will sell too but the addition of the action feature means I don't think it will sell as well as a plain old vanilla SA version would.  Ugh...

MY only hope will be that they do a SA version with paint variences in Collection 2 (along with everything else they are doing in Collection 1 ::))
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 13, 2004, 11:11 AM
Looks pretty good to me.  Yeah I don't like the big shoulders either, but this is a lot better than the Clones we got in the SAGA line!

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on December 13, 2004, 12:05 PM
The more I look at all them they do look pretty good.  It's not like I really "play" with them anyway.  I take them out and kind of look at them on an individual basis and plop them back in the container.  I am working on a display though.  I think these figures will look decent setup next to one another. 

I am actually looking forward to seeing Aayla Secura and Tarful among others that should come out at some point. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Vator on December 13, 2004, 03:55 PM
That's not good news about the Clonetrooper...I fear they may have tinkered with the original mold to make it SA and AF. The clone sadly looks pretty crappy to me, so here's hoping for a real SA Clone farther into the line.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on December 13, 2004, 05:20 PM
Definitely better than Saga Clones, definitely more poseable, definitely neat that his shoulder armor's interchangeable, but...

Fugly shoulder joints, and Fugly hip/leg joints...  Both due to the action feature, clearly.  That sucks.

I too hope for a vanilla SA Clone later...  Hell, make it with a water-activated shoulder emblem ala the blast mark on the Commtech Stormtrooper.  I always liked that little idea myself.

Anyway, this isn't the best figure, and I was sort of expecting the Clone to be one of the disappointments of the entire ROTS line by his earliest photos...  I'm not overly shocked.  I just hope Hasbro has sense enough to make a non-action feature one that is SA and not bulky at the hips and shoulders like this one is.

They seem to be wisening up on a lot of things, so I just hope that's one of them.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on December 13, 2004, 09:28 PM
Well I'm frankly a little surprised at the iffy quality of the Clone. I would have expected SA to trump AF for this one. I won't be army building with this guy, that's for sure. Those are some big ol' shoulders there and a rather wide, erm, groin.

But, I'm really not worried since we'll no doubt be getting a proper SA one in due time. I'm sure they realize by now how much collectors will beat them down if they hose up the line again with action features.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 14, 2004, 10:29 AM
Yeah, it was definitely not in our best interests to have the Clone in Collection 1.  They must have figured they could sell a lot of them in the action feature collection, then make a proper SA version later for Collection 2 - they therefore sell a lot more.

Makes good business sense, but why not just release a SA version in Collection 2, and keep rehashing it??

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on December 14, 2004, 12:41 PM
The C1 Clone, I dunno...  Unless they're really pushing Clones towards kids, which is possible, then I just don't know why it wasn't a C2 figure with no feature... 

The C1 Clone's gonna not be as hot I'm thinking...  Like Jared's saying that he already isn't "in" on this one...  I'm maybe gonna get a couple, but I too will hold out for a basic SA one over this one's bulky shoulders and odd hips/lower torso.

It's better than the red clone in Saga though.  That figure sucked...  And I still say pre-posed anything bites.  Poseable with funky limbs bites too though.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 14, 2004, 02:19 PM
I don't think we'll know for sure until we actually have a couple of them opened.  I still think it is better than anything we saw in the SAGA line.  Just the CW SA version was better.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2004, 03:04 AM
Man, dem some freakish shoulder joints on the Clone.

I'm not sure how the big H could hit two home runs with the CW and VOTC troopers, but strike out with this one. Guess it happens.

It's not like this will be the only Clone in the ROTS line.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 15, 2004, 05:16 PM
It could have better, but I'll live with it.   :)

IMO, they should have had two versions of the Clone out right off the bat -

Collection 1 - action feature version

Collection 2 - super articulated version

Then, there would be twice as many Clone Troopers out for all of us.  Those that hate the action feature one could just get the super articulated one, and the rest of us could get both.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on December 17, 2004, 11:29 AM
Yep, I totally agree with that.  Then of course nobody would buy the non-articulated version.  So Hasbro, opts for the crappier version instead.  :)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 19, 2004, 08:24 PM
I'm hoping to see some sort of Deluxe Army Builder 3-pks like we saw in the Clone Wars line...

It would be so nice to get some of these.   What are some ideas you all have?  How about -

- Clonetrooper 3-pk
- Wookiee 3-pk
- Battle Droid 3-pk
- Nemoidian Soldier 3-pk

Others?

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jedirhino on December 20, 2004, 06:46 AM
No doubt that there would be a droid 3 pack...the new battle droid looks as if it has seen the light of day before...I think also that a wookie 3 pack is reasonable as also a clonetrooper 3 pack...that would for the most part just involve switching heads...
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 20, 2004, 12:11 PM
You're right, a helmet switch would be a piece of cake for Hasbro.  I would however like to not see the lying down Clonetrooper again, I thought that one was a bit silly.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on December 21, 2004, 03:05 PM
Galactic Hunter (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3763&zoneid=2) has some links up to some auctions currently running on ebay for a few ROTS Collection 2 figures.  The auction listings provide some (small) front carded pictures of Dooku, the Royal Guard, and Kit Fisto.  By the looks of the auction, these are "in hand" in California.  By the way, you can purchase the Royal Guard with "Buy It Now" for $100 ::).
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on December 21, 2004, 03:25 PM
Yeah, I will get right on that one and shell out $100 for the Royal Guard.  He will surely surpass that on the secondary market someday.  I'll predict around the year 6005 on the 4000th anniversary of ROTS. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on December 21, 2004, 05:10 PM
I'll predict around the year 6005 on the 4000th anniversary of ROTS. 

That, I believe, is the target date for the soft goods Emperor. Can't wait!

After looking at those shots, I think the quality difference is pretty clear between C1 and C2, but I'm really worried that these superior figures are going to get lost in a glut of action feature Anakins. I'm dying to get my hands on that Kit Fisto. Looks excellent.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on December 21, 2004, 09:17 PM
These Col.2 figures do look outstanding. 

Don't Kit's eyes look too big though??

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on January 27, 2005, 12:35 AM
And I breath a sigh of relief

Episode II Apology Figures as well as nifty new Ani and Obi

http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/3877-rotsaayla_02.jpg

Nice work Hasbro...seriously I'll be buying two of each as replacements for the **** your churned out 3 years ago and I scooped up like candy (fool me once)

As such, I may be passing on quite a bit of Collection 1 by the looks of it
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2005, 03:25 AM
Sweet. I've been hoping for a decent Luminara Unduli.

Now if they updated Barriss Offee, all will be forgiven. :)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: JediMAC on January 27, 2005, 04:00 AM
Some very nice, neutral, articulated looking figures there.  Probably going to render obsolete just about everything from the craptacular Saga line, which is a good thing.  I just hope they've got some articulated knees on the Council ones, and hopefully even a Jedi cloak somewhere in there too, to replace the atrocities sitting in the TRU Council 3-packs.  Hopefully there's some more background Jedi on the way as well...

Definitely looking great so far.  Sigh of relief, indeed.   8)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on January 27, 2005, 08:54 AM
I agree, from what we can see from that cardback, it looks like some great figures are on the way.  The Anakin and Obi (part two) pictured on there both look great, as do the rest of the Jedi and Tarfful.  I'm really looking forward to this line/movie, and so far it looks like we could have a pretty decent run of figures here.  Seeing this really makes me realize how craptastic much of the Saga line was, and I am now wishing I wouldn't have bought quite as much at the time.  I'm now tempted to wait and get those later versions of Anakin and Obi (instead of the initial, Collection 1 offerings), depending how they look on closer inspection.  I'll probably end up buying both though.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on January 27, 2005, 09:07 AM
Based on GH's nice cardback scans

http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absoluteNm/articlefiles/3727-rotschecklist.jpg

Right now, I'll be passing on

#1 Obi-Wan
#2 Anakin
#3 Yoda
#4 Super Battle Droid
#5 Chewbacca
#7 R2-D2

I may pass on Vader and possible Grievous but I'd like a nice 4 armed version as well

I'm a small bit Miffed that the best version of Mace Windu they have done in 6 years is this new one and it is still Action Feature laden  :-X
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on January 27, 2005, 09:07 AM
LOL!  I am laughing because I had the same reaction to seeing Kenobi and Anakin.  A gigantic sigh of relief for me as well.  I was sweating it after seeing the first Anakin, that pack-in Anakin, and that Deluxe Anakin with Vader armor.  I was getting worried.  The two previous Kenobi's did nothing for me either.  WHEW!!!!  

It will be great to have a neutral posed Luminara and Aayla.  Not to mention a few other Jedi.  I will most likely pass on Ki Adi Mundi and possibly Saesee Tiin.  I am still debating on Kit Fisto.  

Man Tarful looked cool as well.  But seeing the Kenobi and Anakin figures gets me that much more excited for these toys.  
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on January 27, 2005, 09:21 AM
Trying to take a better look at that Aayla cardback, and I'm starting to think that Hasbro might really be stepping it up for the ROTS figures, particularly Collection 2.  Many of them look VOTC-like quality, the Aayla (which you can see a bit better in the close up) seems to have lots of articulation and a nice sculpt as well.  The other Jedi look to be what we've all been asking for, neutrally posed, nice sculpt and articulation.  The Tarfful looks pretty good to me as well.  I hope that they do live up to those expectations, and really go the extra mile this time around.  Could be a nice line of figures.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on January 27, 2005, 09:28 AM
When I opened the Preview figures, Brian, I thought the exact same thing.  If this is what the majority of Episode III figures will be like, they are really stepping it up a notch :)

Again, my complaint to the whole thing would be why do this on half of the stuff and not the other.  Why wouldn't kids enjoy highly articulated, highly realistic figures over somewhat articulated somewhat compromised due to action features figures?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on January 27, 2005, 09:46 AM
Yeah, you are right on with that Scott.  I never understand why they don't make all of their work up to their highest potential.  We have seen through the years (POTJ, a few in Saga, the VOTC, a few in the OTC), that Hasbro is capable of making great, amazing in some cases, Star Wars figures.  Why they don't want to do it all of the time is the mystery.  I guess if they are going to put out stinkers, as long as there are apology figures right around the bend it isn't quite as bad, but why not make the good ones in the first place?  I agree, I know when I was a kid I would have liked the nicely detailed, well articulated figures, no doubt.  Also...glad to hear that you enjoyed the Preview figures opened up.  I haven't had a chance to open any yet, but they do look nice in the packages.  I had to already go and pick up another Wookiee yesterday, and I may be getting more.  Be nice to have a wookiee army ;).
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on January 27, 2005, 09:54 AM
I am wondering the same thing?  I am sure kids would not mind articulated figures.    I guess they are just trying to cover all bases here.  They probably assume collectors will jump in and get the action feature versions as well.  I will hold out this time though. 

Hopefully we get a nice articulated Mace Windu.  I am not for that action feature one. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on January 27, 2005, 10:08 AM
Now I'm ******* psyched for Episode 3 figures.

These are going to look so good in my collection. Its always been a sore point that I have all these figures standing normally, and then there's a half a shelf of action-posed partial statues. These will replace those nicely, and allow me to use the action posed figures in more a diorama setting.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on January 27, 2005, 11:02 AM
I think I am going to spend amost $1000.00 on this stuff right off the bat... these figures are so damn  nice that I am going to have to replace all of my crap-ass EP1 and EP2 versions of the Jedi - meaning that I need to get at least 3-4 of each Jedi, and at least 10 of each army builder, and probably 25 of the Clones to start... holy hell.   :D

I have not been this excited about Star Wars figures EVER.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on January 27, 2005, 01:54 PM
What a relief to wake up, check a few websites, and discover that all is well in the SW universe. That's the best cardback I've seen in a long time. :)

All the Jedi look to be just about perfect, or at least great attempts to reach the level they should be at.

That Obi-Wan is what I really want. He's been treated horribly for the whole of the PT line. This one looks perfect. I'd even be ok with them doing a paint variant without the ash/soot marks on him.

Pegwarmer-Sense is tingling with Mon Mothma, though.

Also, I'm started to wish that Accessory Packs could make a comeback. First off, I could really use some decent cloaks for the Jedi since these don't seem to have them, and an assortment of Wookiee weapons and armor for this reason -- I have a feeling I'm going to army build like crazy with the wooks and they way they've built the preview figure, and apparently Tarfull, and assumably the 2nd generic warrior, you could make a massive army simply with variation of weapons and armor.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darby on January 27, 2005, 02:40 PM
The Anakin / Obi Wan pic put me over the top, too.  I hope these are available 4/2 because they've become my most wanted.  Like Chewie said the thread over at RS, this is the best of the PT lines by far.  No contest.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on January 27, 2005, 02:48 PM
The Anakin / Obi Wan pic put me over the top, too.  I hope these are available 4/2 because they've become my most wanted.  Like Chewie said the thread over at RS, this is the best of the PT lines by far.  No contest.

Now if only we could get a ROTS Dorme!   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2005, 02:48 PM
I might have missed it, but is there going to be a cloaked Obi-Wan in the basic line? I'm glad to see the Anakin, but I'm just curious about Obi-Wan.

And yes, this is the best PT line. I don't think I'll mind paying $6-7 each after all.  :)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on January 27, 2005, 03:50 PM
And yes, this is the best PT line. I don't think I'll mind paying $6-7 each after all.  :)

no matter how good the line is, I'll mind paying that much considering figures for the past 2 years were only $4.99  :-\
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darby on January 27, 2005, 09:10 PM
The Anakin / Obi Wan pic put me over the top, too.  I hope these are available 4/2 because they've become my most wanted.  Like Chewie said the thread over at RS, this is the best of the PT lines by far.  No contest.

Now if only we could get a ROTS Dorme!   ;)

 :P

Dude, that will be the first question I ask Hasbro at the convention in April.   :)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on January 28, 2005, 08:52 AM
I might have missed it, but is there going to be a cloaked Obi-Wan in the basic line? I'm glad to see the Anakin, but I'm just curious about Obi-Wan.

And yes, this is the best PT line. I don't think I'll mind paying $6-7 each after all.  :)

The only cloaked Kenobi I have seen so far is that Deluxe Obi-Wan with Super Battle Droid. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on January 31, 2005, 05:15 PM
Regarding Kit Fisto:

Did anyone read the juicy spoiler report on MF.com? I'm wondering if we'll see Kit have a that feature on the toy.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on January 31, 2005, 05:54 PM
MF.com??  ???

Sorry- I'm drawing a blank.  :-[

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: JediMAC on January 31, 2005, 06:41 PM
MF.com??  ???

MilleniumFalcon.com

Hot new up and comer site (that broke off of TFn, I think), which has been the source for the majority of reliable spoiler news for ROTS.

 ;)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on January 31, 2005, 07:35 PM
Well, gosh!!  Wish I'd known sooner.  I'll have to head on over and check it out right now. :D

thx!   --Mike
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on January 31, 2005, 07:45 PM
Okay, was that some kind of joke?  It just redirected me to starwars.com  Was that you're whole point?  Is that what you meant by 'reliable'?  That's cruel man.  And cold, very cold.

 >:( ::) >:(
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Nicklab on January 31, 2005, 07:55 PM
go to http://www.millenniumfalcon.com.  2 L's and 2  N's.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on January 31, 2005, 08:22 PM
Wow! Thx! Oh, and uh, sorry about what I said. :-\
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on January 31, 2005, 08:54 PM
Man, that site's great!  :)

It's good to be spoiled!  ;D
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 3, 2005, 04:35 PM
Yeah, I saw that Fisto rumor.   If they are going to have the spoiler features on other figures they have to have that one for Kit. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on February 3, 2005, 08:40 PM
Yeah, that'd be awesome. :D
It'd make it a lot easier for customizing too, eh? ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Nicklab on February 4, 2005, 01:57 PM
Check out the first Yoda here (http://www.thejawa.com/nuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=949)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on February 5, 2005, 01:44 AM
I like that one better than that one with his arm raised in the packaging.

I really don't seem to care much for any ROTS Yoda, since I see he hasn't changed much in appearance since AOTC, and I have a satisfactory version of that Yoda.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DualSaberMaster on February 5, 2005, 04:23 PM
GH has new carded pics of Saesee Tiin and Ki-Adi Mundi (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3916&zoneid=2)

I am really digging how the background Jedi are shaping up.  It seems these will be the definitive versions of Saesee, Ki-Adi, Agen, Kit, Aayla, Luminara, Shaak Ti, Plo Koon.

With most if not all being collection 2 with added articulation, scene specific bases, and soft goods (IMO very nice looking soft goods). I can't wait to pick up doubles of each to keep carded and loose, so I can toss those crappy Saga versions! ;D

I am especially looking forward to grabbing Saesee, Agen, and Kit to recreate Mace's "We need to talk Mother F#@ker  Posse" in Palpy's office. :D  Too bad we have a craptastic version of Mace though. >:(
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on February 5, 2005, 04:36 PM
Damn, those are nice. The soft goods use has really been stepped up a notch and looks much more realistic than it has in the past. Those will look great when sitting in the Council chairs.

After seeing both Yodas, we really need a Collection 2 version with soft goods, because his outer cloak in both existing sculpts looks awful.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DualSaberMaster on February 5, 2005, 04:44 PM
Those will look great when sitting in the Council chairs.

Doh!  Totally forgot about replacing those crappy rehashes from the Jedi Council sets with the ROTS figs.  Make that triples of each. :o :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on February 5, 2005, 07:10 PM
****, if those Jedi can sit in the Council chairs, I might pick up those sets at TRU after all. I've been avoiding them like the plague.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 7, 2005, 08:49 AM
I was just thinking the same thing HMI, I've held off on the Council sets (aside from the first two that came out quite some time back), because I just couldn't justify buying them for the crappy figures.  These ROTS Jedi figures are looking mighty nice though, and could fit into those council chairs much better I think.

Also, it looks like Snowtroopers.ca (http://www.snowtroopers.ca/forum/index.php?board=44;action=display;threadid=6534) has a whole mess of carded figure pictures up, including some we haven't seen (Grievous' bodyguard).  Click above to see more.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DSJ™ on February 7, 2005, 08:55 AM
Also, it looks like Sandtroopers.ca (http://www.snowtroopers.ca/forum/index.php?board=44;action=display;threadid=6534) has a whole mess of carded figure pictures up, including some we haven't seen (Grievous' bodyguard).  Click above to see more.

That would be snowtroopers.ca   ;)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 7, 2005, 08:59 AM
Man I was not going to buy Ki-Adi or Tiin but after seeing the pics they do look very nice.  Sigh, add another 2 figs onto my list. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 7, 2005, 09:04 AM
Quote
That would be snowtroopers.ca   

Whoops, total brain fart.  And the strange part is, I was actually thinking Snowtroopers and typed Sandtroopers for some reason.  Sorry about that, thanks Dale :).
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DSJ™ on February 7, 2005, 09:06 AM
Like no problem eh!  ;D   :)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Vator on February 7, 2005, 10:36 AM
Hmmm, collection I looks like it's gonna be a stinker. Customizing potential though.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on February 7, 2005, 05:13 PM
Hmmm.... Some look good, others.. not so much. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 8, 2005, 07:52 PM
WTF is a "Chopper Droid" ?

(http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/03/62/0e/67_1_b.JPG)

(http://i14.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/61/e6/49_1_b.JPG)

Check out more Pictures of Vader's Medical Droid here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=5955717194&rd=1).

Not the best pictures, but I think it's the first we've seen of this guy... you can barely make out the pics on the back...

III-29 Ki-Adi Mundi
III-30 Saesee Tiin
III-31 Luminara Unduli
III-32 Aayla Secura
III-33 Clone Commander
III-34 Clone Pilot
III-35 Palpatine
III-36 General Grievous
III-41 Tri Droid (Medical Droid)
III-42 AT-TE Gunner
III-43 Polis Massan
III-44 Mas Amedda
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on February 8, 2005, 08:07 PM
Hmmm.... Interesting. Very, very interesting.
Thanks for the pics Nataku.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Vator on February 8, 2005, 08:43 PM
Wait...no, that's Vader's Medical droid.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on February 9, 2005, 05:55 AM
Is it me or is there not a single new droid design in the PT that doesn't completely suck (Grievous included)?

Curious to see the AT-TE Gunner up close -- it almost looks like a removable helmet there.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on February 9, 2005, 08:03 AM
Is it me or is there not a single new droid design in the PT that doesn't completely suck (Grievous included)?


I rather enjoy The Good General and his robotic friends. I see some serious potential for customs with Vaders Medical Droid.

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 9, 2005, 08:43 AM
WTF is a "Chopper Droid" ?

(http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/03/62/0e/67_1_b.JPG)

(http://i14.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/61/e6/49_1_b.JPG)

Check out more Pictures of Vader's Medical Droid here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=5955717194&rd=1).

Not the best pictures, but I think it's the first we've seen of this guy... you can barely make out the pics on the back...

III-29 Ki-Adi Mundi
III-30 Saesee Tiin
III-31 Luminara Unduli
III-32 Aayla Secura
III-33 Clone Commander
III-34 Clone Pilot
III-35 Palpatine
III-36 General Grievous
III-41 Tri Droid (Medical Droid)
III-42 AT-TE Gunner
III-43 Polis Massan
III-44 Mas Amedda

This is the quote for the Medical Droid on the back. 

"Galactic Chopper droids specialize in prosthetic engineering and biomechanics. The tripedal design increases mobility, and modular appendages allow for different limbs to be attached depending on the need." 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 9, 2005, 08:56 AM
Thanks for the pics Jeff.  Nice to see another entry in the ROTS line.  Some new images on that cardback too, hopefully some closer scans will pop up sometime soon.  Many of these Collection 2 figures look pretty amazing, I'm especially looking forward to seeing more of those Clone figures up close, could be neat.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on February 9, 2005, 02:30 PM
Collection II is definately looking grand.

 8)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 9, 2005, 03:33 PM
This droid looks so freaking cool.... not to mention all of Collection 2 and most of Collection I.  Totally looking forward to these figures.   :)

 :P

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DualSaberMaster on February 9, 2005, 03:35 PM
I guess Hasbro wasn't kidding that there would be plenty of Clones in 2005 :)  Clone Trooper's galore! :D :P

Curious to see the AT-TE Gunner up close -- it almost looks like a removable helmet there.

Yeah, looks like it, very cool!  It's about time we got a CT with a removable helmet.

I also love the way the Clone Commander is looking.(mission specific)  Very ARC Trooperish.

I wonder where's Commander Baccara?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on February 9, 2005, 05:22 PM
Hmmm.... You've got a point there, DSM. I wonder...
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DualSaberMaster on February 9, 2005, 05:33 PM
Speaking of Clone Commanders, check out this killer pic provided by redsaber on scum General Kenobi with Clone Commanders (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/swcgphotos/06fafa26.jpg).
 :)


Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on February 9, 2005, 05:34 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2005/rotsmeddroid2.jpg)

New figure pics, looks like lots of Army Builders!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: iFett on February 9, 2005, 05:40 PM
Sweet close up shot of the cardback Scott!!!  Many thanks!!!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DualSaberMaster on February 9, 2005, 05:41 PM
WOW! The Clone Commander and AT-TE gunner look awesome! They seem to use the SA Trooper mold. :D  I think I'm going to go broke army building with these guys. :o :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on February 9, 2005, 05:49 PM
******* Awesome!!!  :o
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Vator on February 9, 2005, 06:15 PM
Holy crap, those new pics from GH prove that we're in for a HUGE treat!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on February 9, 2005, 06:19 PM
WOW!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on February 9, 2005, 06:21 PM
WOW! That's amazing. Really, that's just amazing. I'm getting very excited about this. Much more even than I already was. WOW! Just, WOW!

 8)

 :o
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on February 9, 2005, 07:24 PM
That Clone Commander looks great. Possibly one of the best figures I've seen yet!

 :o

 ;D
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DualSaberMaster on February 9, 2005, 07:33 PM
Is it me or does the AT-TE gunner have the dreaded "Action feature hips"? 

He still looks fantastic action feature or not. :o
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darby on February 9, 2005, 07:37 PM
That's it.  There's no escape now.   :)  These are fantastic.  They just get better and better. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on February 9, 2005, 08:24 PM
Is it me or does the AT-TE gunner have the dreaded "Action feature hips"? 

He still looks fantastic action feature or not. :o

No, I think it's something that might actually be the next step we needed in SA articulation - look again at the hip joints. They're slightly rounded. I think they could be ballsockets, so they can move outward from the hip like VOTC Luke. This is a serious winner.

And I'm still trying to figure out the skirt piece on Shaak Ti. Looks like soft goods, but that's the most complex material I've ever seen used. Shockingly cool!

Makes the Collection 1 stuff look even worse than before.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2005, 08:46 PM
Yeah I'm really floored by some of the Collection 2 figures.

Just think what Star Wars as a line would've been like had E1 and E2 had quality backing them like this?!?!?  I'll tell you what, I'd have been a tad more forgiving at least. :) 

Hasbro's taken things up a notch with E3.  Good for them, though it sucks royally that they "see the light" 10 years after the line's beginning.  I more than ever want resculpts of old figures though, if this is what it would be like.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 9, 2005, 09:28 PM
These look fantastic... and Mas Amedda really rocks the house as well.  Man he looks pissed!

But that Clone is going to be right up there with the tops on my list... I can't believe how damn cool it looks.  Damn I am seriously going to be laying out some cash this summer on Star Wars - more than ever before.  Damn!!!   :)

Seriously, if they start pumping out this kind of quality after ROTS dies down in their resculpts and all new figures from the other films, I think the demand will definitely be there for the line to continue for many years to come.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: speedermike on February 9, 2005, 09:31 PM
Wow! These are some seriously cool figures.  And finally, some "new" figures, not just E3 versions of background Jedi.   I love all the clone troops.  I just wish that the Seperatist army was made up of more than droids we've seen before.

I'm hoping that after ROTS Hasbro continues with smaller amounts of figures, but with this high quality...

Please excuse my losy typing these days, it's done mostly with a 4 month old in one arm!---Mike
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2005, 09:36 PM
GH.com has some nice high-res shots up including a spoiler-ish one for Shaak Ti...

However, while there's a panic already over this "feature", her carded figure seems to NOT have the same feature, or it's covered up or plugged with something while the loose shot of her shows the feature clearly.

Ponderings?

BTW, my jaw really hit the floor looking at the high-res shot of the AT-TE Gunner.  isn't he just a basic Clone with a shoulder pad and some other accessory packed in, and no action feature?

He rocks though...  I mean, holy ****.  If E2 had been this thought-out I'd have been a much happier man the past 3 years.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 9, 2005, 10:14 PM
GH.com has some nice high-res shots up including a spoiler-ish one for Shaak Ti...

However, while there's a panic already over this "feature", her carded figure seems to NOT have the same feature, or it's covered up or plugged with something while the loose shot of her shows the feature clearly.

Huh?  What spoiler-ish feature? 

I've seen a few people say this, but I don't "see" anything... I must be missing something.   :-\

Jeff
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on February 9, 2005, 10:21 PM
Huh?  What spoiler-ish feature? 

Look at her chest and think about QuiGon.

If it has a plug, great. If not, I'm still not really upset. Are people upset with the feature itself detracting from the scupt, or are they pissing and moaning about seeing spoilers on figures before the movie?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on February 9, 2005, 10:22 PM
Check betwixt her boobs
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Diddly on February 9, 2005, 10:24 PM
I have a strong feeling the majority of the figs I buy will be Collection 2 Army Builders.... Is that good or bad? :-\

Also, is it just me, or does that AT-TE Tank Gunner have ball-jointed legs?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 9, 2005, 10:32 PM
Look at her chest and think about QuiGon.

I'm looking and looking and all I see is shadow from boobage.

Granted I do have bad vision and have been wearing the contacts since 6am, but I just don't "see" it....  :-\

Jeff


edit - OK, I cut out the "portion" of Shaak Ti in question and played with the image a bit...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-05/shaakboobie.jpg)

Now, I see something, but is is really "battle damage"?  :-\
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2005, 10:34 PM
hole...  a hole!

I think the rage was more circled around it detracting from sculpt...  And it's not really rage I guess, but I think that's the reason for the displeasure.  It's "eh" if it's not pluggable.  :(  Kind of a bummer on an otherwise great figure.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on February 10, 2005, 12:35 AM
Holy crow, these figures are awesome.

I hope Obi-Wan gets a great figure in Collection II. The two I've seen so far suck, IMO, but that's just judging from pictures.

I hope those Clones are easy to get ahold of. I'll want a few or more of those, I'm sure.  :)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: speedermike on February 10, 2005, 06:14 AM
Since the figure on the card has no hole, I think that this must have been some sort of production process scar.  These look like very early hand painted prototypes.  Who knows.  I can do without  it.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on February 10, 2005, 06:19 AM
I think it's funny as hell that in E2 nobody gave two ***** about finding a Clone really...  Red Clones were a dime a dozen, and lingered at KB on clearance forever (Still available some places), but the E3 Clones are so possibly going to be incredibly rare that there's worry about finding them.

I honestly ponder how hard finding the Clone will be too...  especially as someone who already wants a ton of that AT-TE Gunner.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on February 10, 2005, 06:20 AM
Sweet deal on these Clones...the more I see of them, the more I want them.

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 10, 2005, 08:37 AM
These pics are all just amazing, and from what we can see on that larger cardback pic, there is more greatness to come as well.  I'm really excited about the ROTS line now, and can already foresee that I will be spending lots this summer :).  I think I'm most psyched about all those different Clonetroopers.  Each one of them has looked great on its own, and I want several of all of them.  I've never built huge armies before (10 or less), but I'm getting awfully tempted to do it for ROTS, this last big movie "hurrah".

The Jedi figures look awfully nice too, as mentioned earlier, such improvements over the EP2/Saga stuff that we got.  Sometimes I regret how much I spent on that movie line, because many of this figures simply pale in comparison to what it looks like we're getting this year.  Oh well, I'm just glad Hasbro looks like it is making so many of these figures great, and it could be a heck of a year for collecting.  I do hope/wish we see some of the other "main" characters (Obi/Ani/Chewie/Yoda/Mace, etc) in the Collection 2 as well, because the figures we have seen come from Col2 have all looked amazing.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 10, 2005, 09:50 AM
I think it's funny as hell that in E2 nobody gave two ***** about finding a Clone really...  Red Clones were a dime a dozen, and lingered at KB on clearance forever (Still available some places), but the E3 Clones are so possibly going to be incredibly rare that there's worry about finding them.

I honestly ponder how hard finding the Clone will be too...  especially as someone who already wants a ton of that AT-TE Gunner.

To be honest that red clone sucked from the Saga line.  I bought one and opened it.  It was only decent in one position I felt.  The legs or something about it was bad. 

Anyway, yes the new clones look great IMO.  Except for that first clone we saw with the birthing hips.  I don't care much for that one. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 10, 2005, 09:56 AM
There is a new shot of "Polis Massan" over at www.ozfigures.com if you'd like to check it out...

Strange looking alien design and a VERY interesting figure choice.  HUGE spoilers for this little guy, especially if you find out where the character is in the film...

Jeff
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on February 10, 2005, 10:24 AM
Is there a list anywhere of which figures are going to be coming out initially, and which ones will be coming out over the rest of the year? I really want these collection 2 figures!!!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on February 10, 2005, 10:27 AM
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5935.0

Jeff has a pretty good list going in this thread

I would guess there could be a chance the Late April 8 (Tarfull and the Jedi etc) might make an appearance in early April at the launch

Looks like May and June though for the latest shown figs though
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 10, 2005, 10:32 AM
Hmm, seemed to miss the excitement yesterday.  Curse work for getting in the way of my surfing. 

Lots of nifty clones, I foresee the $$ flowing easily this summer.  Will be able to hold off on non-clone figures, I think.  Droids too, I share Jared's general dislike for them as they are (though Vader's medical droid is an interesting precursor to an FX-7 type of droid, from the description anyway).  But I can seem myself buying up pretty much one of every clone and more if I find them. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 10, 2005, 12:16 PM
Hell, I have to get at least 1-2 of every figure, and many army-builders right off the bat.

Kinda shocked at the face on Polis though - almost like a Podracer facial design... would of like something a little more realistic.

(http://ozfigures.freeservers.com/EP-3-Polis-Massan.jpg)

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 10, 2005, 01:59 PM
More ROTS Hi-Res pics available over at Galactic Hunter (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3934&zoneid=2).  This time we have Padme, Grievous' Bodyguard, Polis Massan, and Vader's Medical (Chopper) Droid.  Check it out at the linky.  I'm really enjoying all these nice big, clear pics :).
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 10, 2005, 02:22 PM
Ooh, there's a four pack I can wait for on clearance.  Maybe pick up the bodyguard at regular retail, but otherwise I see no urgency. 

Pregnant Padme I foresee as being the peg warmer that the Tusken Mama was last time around.  Polis and the Chopper droid ::)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 10, 2005, 03:40 PM
Oh heck, I like all of the figures -

Droid - very cool, reminds me of the OT designs, will get 1-2 of them right away

Bodyguard - awesome, count me in for 4 of them

Padme - can't pass up this one, will get two of them

Polis - I'm thinking he has some sort of surgical mask on?  Count me in for a few as there are more than one of his species in the movie

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DualSaberMaster on February 10, 2005, 03:43 PM
Is it me or does the AT-TE gunner have the dreaded "Action feature hips"? 

He still looks fantastic action feature or not. :o

No, I think it's something that might actually be the next step we needed in SA articulation - look again at the hip joints. They're slightly rounded. I think they could be ballsockets, so they can move outward from the hip like VOTC Luke. This is a serious winner.

I think you are right again Jared.   The hip joints look to be ballsockets.  You can check out the difference  Action Feature Clone Trooper (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=3483&text=&imageid=12847&box=&shownew=), AT-TE Gunner (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/3929-attetankgunner.jpg).

Also, you can see from the carded front shot of the gunner he doesn't have that awkward stance that the action feature clone does.

It makes sense that the gunner would have ballsocket hip joints.   If your manning a AT-TE it would be a good idea to be able to sit down. :P  Unlike the CW Trooper which can't kneel or sit down, if his life depended on it.

This lends more credence that we will see a AT-TE vehicle in the near future. :D  ;D

I just can't believe Hasbro would bless us with such a great  Clone Trooper.  He even comes with two helmets a regular, a mission specific, and his pauldron seems to be easily removed for army building.   Might I venture to say that Hasbro quite possibly has surpassed the current SA Trooper? :o
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 10, 2005, 04:28 PM
Yeah, this looks superior to the SA Clone... talk about looking to be a hell of a figure...

I think he actually just comes with one helmet, rather the helmet looking thing on the right just attaches to the base helmet. 

Either way - way to go Hasbro!!!  Well worth $5.88!

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Mikey D on February 10, 2005, 04:46 PM
(http://img238.exs.cx/img238/3785/45781377c1d52d4eeb3qs.jpg)

Doesn't look like a mask to me.  I think the funky look on the action figure is more of a screw up on Hasbro's part.

Editted to add:
The pic on the card has to be an early design and Hasbro based the fig on that.  After much thought, Lucas must of thought how incredibly stupid this alien looks, even for a SW movie.  The all black eyes makes it much better looking, IMO.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 10, 2005, 04:49 PM
Uh, dumb question time.  What's the point of a pauldron, functionally speaking?  I'm sure there is one, aside from rank designation, but I have no clue what it might be. 

I think I'll be buying every AT-TE driver I see.  That should more than make up for any other figures I pass on while waiting for clearance prices ::) :'(
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 10, 2005, 05:10 PM
I'm thinking I'll get a crapload of the AT-TE driver as well... what a fantastic looking figure...

And Mikey D , thanks for that pic - Polis looks so much better now. 

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 10, 2005, 05:12 PM
Uh, dumb question time.  What's the point of a pauldron, functionally speaking?  I'm sure there is one, aside from rank designation, but I have no clue what it might be. 

I think I'll be buying every AT-TE driver I see.  That should more than make up for any other figures I pass on while waiting for clearance prices ::) :'(

My "favorite" part will be next June when all of us are desperately crying out for help with the AT-TE Gunner because our local stores are CLOGGED with April 2nd figures... pegs and pegs of Mon Mothma, Grieveous Body Guard, SBD, Bail Organa, etc.

Those middle waves are sometimes tricky to find because of the initial glut of product clogging the shelves, so the AT-TE Gunner cases will rot in the back waiting and waiting to be stocked...  :'(

Jeff
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 10, 2005, 05:28 PM
Yeah... but I do think that the initial April 2nd figures will be a bit better sellers than what we saw before with EPI and EP2...

Especially the EPI stuff... those were just too damn overpriced.

For the EP2 stuff, it seemed to be more popular than the EPI stuff, but I think the EP3 stuff will be the hottest of all prequel figures.  We're finally seeing more and more of the OTC designs and characters that more people are familiar with.  Plus, the quality on these is so much higher than what we got before with the prequel figures.

I hope I'm right, because I really want the middle waves in the summer to be easy to get.   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 10, 2005, 05:56 PM
Ok, I really think that Polis has a mask on... why would the rest of his skin be a blue-gray color, but just the face white? 

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: speedermike on February 10, 2005, 08:33 PM
"...why would the rest of his skin be a blue-gray color, but just the face white?"

Whay do the Jawas eyes glow?

Why does Yoda have giant ears?

Why does Ree-Yees have three eyes?

Why is Taun We so skinny?

Um...maybe becuase it's an alien from a galaxy far, far away... ;D
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darby on February 10, 2005, 08:36 PM
Exactly.  I think he looks pretty neat, but the black eyes are better.  And I also will be buying lots and lots of AT TE gunners. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Nicklab on February 10, 2005, 08:41 PM
I think the Polis Massan's may be a sort of inside joke between Lucas and Spielberg.  I think they were designed as some sort of tribute to the greys or aliens from Clone Encouters Of The Third Kind.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 10, 2005, 09:28 PM
OK, I was looking over the GH pictures again...

Is it my imagination or does Mas Amedda have a pack-in Tongue?

Mas Amedda (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/3929-masamedda.jpg)

See on his face, he has two "holes" like our pal Dannikk Jerriko:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-05/masface.jpg)

And, I see what looks like a tongue in the bubble of his carded figure, just above the horns of the die cut insert:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-05/mascard.jpg)

Forgive me if this was common knowledge, just found it interesting that Dannik's tentacle boogers were an Ep3 precursor...

Jeff

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on February 10, 2005, 09:47 PM
It looks like it, but it could also be some thing he holds in his left hand (it looks made to hold something)

Interesting  though and a good catch Jeff!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 10, 2005, 10:40 PM
"...why would the rest of his skin be a blue-gray color, but just the face white?"

Whay do the Jawas eyes glow?

Why does Yoda have giant ears?

Why does Ree-Yees have three eyes?

Why is Taun We so skinny?

Um...maybe becuase it's an alien from a galaxy far, far away... ;D

Ha Ha.  There's a pretty clear outline around the face, making me think it's a mask.   ::)

 :P
Title: New loose/carded images
Post by: CHEWIE on February 10, 2005, 11:23 PM
http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3940&zoneid=2

Definitely some nice pics here - and great to get a better look at the C3PO figure!  Looks like the best 3PO yet - hopefully we can all find them with the eyes centered better...

And check out these -

http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/ep3_20050210/index.htm

I'm really liking the Anakin-Vader deluxe...

 :P

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 10, 2005, 11:26 PM
The first thing I thought of when I saw the Polis Massa (I don't know if I'm spelling it right and I'm too tired to check right now) was of the early conceptual art for the Kaminoans.  If any of you have "The Art of 'Attack of the Clones'", check out the section on Kamino.  One of the early designs that was discarded looks almost identical to the Polis people.

Maybe it's a similar situation to how the Geonosians were based on early conceptual artwork for the Neimoidians.  One of my favorite little things about the Geonosians (something that was originally a Neimoidian trait) was that they designed the Battle Droids in their own image.  Very cool, I think.

But yeah, it looks like there is more old artwork being used for different things.  Thankfully none of it is Doug Chiang's curvy hood ornament crap that got thrown out on Episode I, but this is neither the time nor place for that discussion.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on February 10, 2005, 11:50 PM
10 more figures up on GH.

The packaging for the Royal Guard confirms the red/blue variant quite plainly. Both an Imperial Royal Guard (red) and the Republic Senate Guard (blue) are shown on the front photo of the packaging.

What's with the "Jedi Kick" crap on the otherwise perfect ObiWan?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darby on February 11, 2005, 01:50 AM
And the helmet on the blue guard is slightly different from its previous incarnation, too.  Cool.  Love all the new pics.  It's a virtual feast over at GH everyday.
Title: Re: New loose/carded images
Post by: Darby on February 11, 2005, 01:52 AM
I like it too.  I like the 12" version even better.  That is a work of art.  Here I thought I wasn't buying that much.  Sigh. ;)
Title: Re: New loose/carded images
Post by: Famine on February 11, 2005, 06:11 AM
That Secret Attack Greivous looks awsome. The paint job on him is pretty damn good. I'll be picking up 2, so I can make a custom ultimate Greivous.

Kevin

EDIT:

Doesnt Kolar's saber look yellow?
Title: Re: New loose/carded images
Post by: Darth Broem on February 11, 2005, 08:50 AM
Why did my wife and I have to have a newborn during a movie year?  LOL!   Hasbro has done really well this time judging by the pics of these figures, vehicles, 12 inchers, and even the deluxe figs. 

You army builders are going to be broke with all the cool looking clone troopers, comanders, pilots, wookies, etc.  I will go broke in general just buying up one of each figure. 

Sorry, I am on a new picture high today looking at all this stuff.

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 11, 2005, 08:54 AM
First off, good catch on the Mas figure Jeff, it does look like there could be a "removable" tongue or something on that figure, definitely a possibility.

Secondly, wow, just a visual feast to log in to see this morning.  All kinds of picturey goodness over at GH with lots more of the basic figures, the deluxe figures, 12" figures, etc.  The figures are all looking pretty great I think, and like I said earlier I don't know if I've been this excited about the lineup as a whole for quite some time (except when we initially heard about the VOTC).  Almost all of the figures have looked great, all the Jedi seem to be highly posable, without action stances, and great apology figures for some of the AOTC ones we got.  Collection 2 looks especially spiffy, and we look to be getting a nice batch of figures this year.  I agree about that Obi-Wan figure though, in that hi-res pic it looks really good, aside from the "Jedi Kick".  I was hoping the first action featured Obi-Wan would be enough, and we could get a "normal" one the second time around.  Hopefully no buttons or levers are involved, so it won't be quite as bad.  Anyways, everything is looking great!  Heck, that 3PO looks quite a bit nicer than the VOTC one we got...for $10. ::)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 11, 2005, 09:09 AM
I have been pleasently surprised by most of the ROTS stuff.  Even the deluxe figures are tempting to me.  Especially compared to AOTC flipping figures and that Jango Fett removeable armor deluxe figs.  Ugh. 

Just about all of the Jedi look great IMO.  Kit, Agen, Aayla, Luminar, Plo, Saesee, Anakin, Kenobi. 

Most of the clones look great to like the pilot, commander, etc. 

I have to get that 12 inch Vader/Anakin just for the scarred head. 

Here I thought I would not go wild with purchases this time around.  Yeah right. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 11, 2005, 09:56 AM
Wow, so many images all leaking so soon.   :)

Looking at the GH pictures, I am more inclined to believe that the "loose" figures are all painted hard-copys.  I think that is why they look so nice. 

In each picture, the carded figure has something that is a bit different - less paint deco, less detail, etc.  For example, on both Luminara and Shaak, the detail on the dresses is NOT the same between the carded figure and the loose one.  Same goes with many of the other figures - slight changes in the soft goods, slight changes in the paint apps, etc. 

So, I am trying not to get TOO excited, less I suffer disappointment when the actual figure looks worse in my hand.  Hopefully though, the figures will turn out as great as they look, but we all know the Hasbro disclaimer, "actual product may vary".   :-\

Either way, it should be a fun Toy Fair when we see more stuff, and it's definately making for a long wait until April 2nd!  Ah well, gives me 2 months to save up the moolah for all those figures...

Jeff
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 11, 2005, 11:05 AM
I'm getting more and more excited about the deluxe "man-e-face" Palpatine... damn that looks cool!

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Nicklab on February 11, 2005, 01:44 PM
Wow, so many images all leaking so soon.   :)

Looking at the GH pictures, I am more inclined to believe that the "loose" figures are all painted hard-copys.  I think that is why they look so nice. 

If you look at those loose GH images, they're virtually identical to the images that are on the cardbacks, only larger.  These look like they're some sort of official images that have leaked out.
Title: Re: New loose/carded images
Post by: dustrho on February 11, 2005, 11:37 PM
And check out these -

http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/ep3_20050210/index.htm

I'm really liking the Anakin-Vader deluxe...

 :P



Glad you liked those images.   :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 12, 2005, 12:40 AM
 :P - is kind of like my signature Dusty.   ;)

And yeah, I did like them alot!   :)

 :P

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: dustrho on February 12, 2005, 01:12 AM
:P - is kind of like my signature Dusty.   ;)

Nice!   ;D
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: dustrho on February 13, 2005, 06:47 PM
Just wanted to let everyone here know that we have posted a lot more images of ROTS figures.  Hope everyone here enjoys them...

CLICK HERE (http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/ep3_20050213/index.htm)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 14, 2005, 01:32 AM
Just wanted to let everyone here know that we have posted a lot more images of ROTS figures.  Hope everyone here enjoys them...

CLICK HERE (http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/ep3_20050213/index.htm)

 :o  Thanks Chris
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on February 14, 2005, 06:27 AM
Look at those clones! Look at that Emperor figure! I'm so geeked!

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on February 14, 2005, 07:03 AM
We're in for a pretty big year for figures.  Among maybe the best figures of the modern line, period.  As happy as I am to see such greatness in the figure world, there's part of me that just feels "cheated" that the classic trilogy doesn't really have basic figures this nice...  not in great abundance at least.

Off-hand, I'd only label the Cantina wave and VOTC as being near the caliber of the basic figures (and VOTC shouldn't count since they were $10 a pop) we've seen for E3...  I mean, even the C1 figures don't look BAD like they did for AOTC's lineup.

I really hope this is something that carries over, and that we start seeing new, and resculpted figures from the classic trilogy that rival or surpass a lot of these ROTS figures.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 14, 2005, 12:15 PM
http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/ep3_20050213/052.jpg

http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/ep3_20050213/048.jpg

http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/ep3_20050213/029.jpg

http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/ep3_20050213/064.jpg

Unreal... these four are tops on my list....

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 14, 2005, 12:43 PM
Holy crap, that's a neutral Mace Windu :o

Hmm, wonder how they'll screw it up...
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 14, 2005, 12:45 PM
Holy crap, that's a neutral Mace Windu :o

Hmm, wonder how they'll screw it up...

The action feature might. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 14, 2005, 12:59 PM
Well, the action feature is a leg squeeze action - I think it will be ok.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 14, 2005, 01:18 PM
Lots of great pics, thanks Chris.  The more I see of the ROTS line, the more I'm getting excited for it.  There aren't too many "stinkers" of figures yet, at least from what we have been able to tell from pictures.  Could be an expensive year, but this should be the last movie, so it can be a nice last hurrah for the big merchandising push we'll see.  Although I'm not complaining about all the pics we've been getting, is there going to be much left to "reveal" at Toy Fair this year?  Its always nice to get some different views of these figures if nothing else, but hopefully there will be a few new viewings and/or surprises.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: dustrho on February 14, 2005, 02:33 PM
I was shocked myself when I saw the Mace Windu figure.  I couldn't believe he didn't look like Michael Jordan dunking a ball, and there wasn't the popsicle stick sticking out of his back.  A nice, neutral pose.  FINALLY!

I'm really impressed with these figures.  Just about all of them are totally new figures with new sculpts, and may Hasbro has finally be hearing our cries about rehashed figures.  Could this be the start of something beautiful for us Star Wars collectors?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: DSJ™ on February 14, 2005, 03:01 PM
Let's just hope they continue with what there doing and don't stab us in the back later with rehashes.

Very nice pics Chris, Thanks.  8)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 14, 2005, 05:29 PM
I'm kinda liking the look of that R2-D2 "Droid Attack" figure... at least he's different from the countless other R2's.  I really don't mind scene specific R2 at this point because I have so many of the little guy already...

Jeff
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 14, 2005, 05:38 PM
I think those rocket things are removable - yippppee

 :P
Title: Re: New loose/carded images
Post by: starwax137 on February 15, 2005, 07:38 AM
EDIT:

Doesnt Kolar's saber look yellow?

carded looks green

loose looks very yellow

what is up w/ that?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 15, 2005, 08:52 AM
I saw that as well.  Maybe it's just a prototype and they still had one of POTJ yellow saber from Plo Koon still lying around.  That or it's just lighting? 

By the way I really want this Agen Kolar figure.  I'm probably in the minority but he's on my list of figs to get right away. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 15, 2005, 11:09 AM
Agen Kolar looks great.  I want several of them - including 3-4 extras for custom Jedi.  What a great looking robed Jedi.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on February 15, 2005, 02:01 PM
Damn those figures look hot!

Its a shame that the greivous figure is marred by an action feature though. How ******* sweet would it be to have a 4-armed SA general greivous figure? The poses you could put him in would be awesome!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 17, 2005, 11:44 AM
Clone Commander pic over at snowtroopers (http://www.snowtroopers.ca/forum/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=6716)

Pic is about halfway down.  I'm sure you can read so I'll let the thread tell the story.  Looks neat.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 17, 2005, 11:50 AM
Thanks for the link Brent.  That definitely looks cool, I really like the look of the Clone Commander...wonder if the visor is moveable/removable?  That certainly is one heck of a story, and sounds true enough...heck, he has the proof.  I wonder how many e-mails Hasbro will get due to this now :).
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 17, 2005, 11:53 AM
Oh, and I'm sure many have seen it by now (I couldn't get into JD earlier this morning for some reason), but Rebelscum has a little preview up of Grievous' Bodyguard (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=89598).  Looks like a pretty nice figure as well.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 17, 2005, 11:54 AM
Yes, this is one figure I want badly.  Looks like it has quite a few accessories. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on February 17, 2005, 12:05 PM
What are the chances that I emailed hasbro, not 5 minutes ago?

My rocket on my jango fett pack broke, and my han solo quick draw feature deal is broken.

Go figure.

Neat deal for that guy.

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 17, 2005, 12:09 PM
I was just checking Jeff's list for the figure release dates and the clone commander is slated for May release.  Hmmm, maybe we'll get a big, ole pile of figures right at the outset?  I wonder.  I really don't want to wait for all the clones, because I expect everyone will over-order collection 1  ::) and we'll be left with a bunch of fat Padme's on the pegs. 

I have to say, the clone assortments look simply awesome (and $$$).
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on February 17, 2005, 12:29 PM
I was just checking Jeff's list for the figure release dates and the clone commander is slated for May release.  Hmmm, maybe we'll get a big, ole pile of figures right at the outset?  I wonder.  I really don't want to wait for all the clones, because I expect everyone will over-order collection 1  ::) and we'll be left with a bunch of fat Padme's on the pegs. 

I have to say, the clone assortments look simply awesome (and $$$).

I <3 Pregnant Padme.

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 17, 2005, 01:22 PM
I was just checking Jeff's list for the figure release dates and the clone commander is slated for May release.  Hmmm, maybe we'll get a big, ole pile of figures right at the outset?  I wonder.  I really don't want to wait for all the clones, because I expect everyone will over-order collection 1  ::) and we'll be left with a bunch of fat Padme's on the pegs. 

I have to say, the clone assortments look simply awesome (and $$$).

First off - the Clone Commander figure looks AMAZING. I'm definitely liking all of the different clones that are being made for this film!

As far as whether or not we'll see his wave on April 2nd - while I would welcome it, I'm not going to expect it. Waves 1 & 2 from each collection is more than sufficient for the onslaught. Will it make the waves that immediately follow those harder to find? Possibly, but I don't seem to recall the follow-on waves of AOTC figures being hard to find at retail either.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 17, 2005, 01:45 PM
Yeah, I see what you're saying Pete.  I don't mean to imply that Hasbro will reduce production at all.  It's more of a reference to how Canadian retail seems to work (i'm in Canuckada, just so you know) and that we get the short end of the stick fairly quickly.  I'm hoping to at least be able to find all the clones we've seen thus far locally, but you just never know up here.  For AOTC/Saga we didn't see the Emperor or Djas Puhr until December and then only a handful ever showed up.  Cynical, that's me. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 17, 2005, 01:50 PM
Yeah, I see what you're saying Pete.  I don't mean to imply that Hasbro will reduce production at all.  It's more of a reference to how Canadian retail seems to work (i'm in Canuckada, just so you know) and that we get the short end of the stick fairly quickly.  I'm hoping to at least be able to find all the clones we've seen thus far locally, but you just never know up here.  For AOTC/Saga we didn't see the Emperor or Djas Puhr until December and then only a handful ever showed up.  Cynical, that's me. 

Yeah - I can understand, I know that you guys in Canada are often left out in the cold when it comes to new releases.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 17, 2005, 02:54 PM
Rebelscum has another preview feature up, this time featuring the big ole wookiee, Tarfful (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=89603).
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Ben on February 17, 2005, 02:58 PM
A dreadlocked Wookiee? Now I've seen everything!  ;)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 17, 2005, 03:04 PM
So, ok.  I'm going to voice a complaint here (go figure, a star wars collector whining) - is Chewbacca like the runt of his family, or what?  Just young and small, lack of testosterone, piss poor genetics?  Why is he such a midget? 

My point being why is scale suddenly irrelevant?  All along Chewbacca has approximated his appearance in the movies relative to other characters, all of whom were to be in scale to Luke, yes?  Now why is everything bigger?  I'm all for big wookies, that's cool, but are we going to now have preggers Padme standing shoulder to shoulder with Chewbacca (everything pre-ROTS anyway)?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Mikey D on February 17, 2005, 03:12 PM
I still have issues with this pic

(http://img226.exs.cx/img226/3160/yodaandchewie7dz.jpg)

I still think Yoda is too tall in this pic,  but it seems Hasbro has seriously ****** up the scale of the Wookiees.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 17, 2005, 03:13 PM
So, ok.  I'm going to voice a complaint here (go figure, a star wars collector whining) - is Chewbacca like the runt of his family, or what?  Just young and small, lack of testosterone, piss poor genetics?  Why is he such a midget? 

My point being why is scale suddenly irrelevant?  All along Chewbacca has approximated his appearance in the movies relative to other characters, all of whom were to be in scale to Luke, yes?  Now why is everything bigger?  I'm all for big wookies, that's cool, but are we going to now have preggers Padme standing shoulder to shoulder with Chewbacca (everything pre-ROTS anyway)?

This is just my opinion.  But I think Lucas wanted everyone to be able to tell for certain who and where Chewbacca is at all times during the film.  So, they purposely made all of the Wookies larger.  Oh, I am sure we'll get some sort of explanation that Chewy is 200 years younger than the rest or something like that.  I just think he wanted Chewy to be distinguished amongst the other Wookies.  

Again just my opinion.  
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 17, 2005, 03:14 PM
I could live with that I suppose. 

But what is that in that picture that Mikey posted?  A flying egg?  Howard the Duck invades the Star Wars Universe :o
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 17, 2005, 03:18 PM
Yeah, Chewie does seem a bit small (or other wookiees a tad big).  I remember on one of the ROTS "web docs" on Hyperspace, they talked about Chewie is "just a little kid" I believe as Rob Coleman put it, when he was explaining the upcoming scene to the other wookiees.  I guess that could be why the others seem a bit bigger, but from the pictures I've seen, the size difference isn't that big (between wookiees) in the movie, although the figures look like a different case.  It would be interesting to see the ROTS Chewie next to the ROTS Tarfful figures and see if there is that much difference.  I don't mind Tarfful, or other wookiees, being taller than Chewie, but they are just all around much, much bigger.

I agree with you about that pic too Mikey.  I really like that pic, and think its cool, but Yoda shouldn't even be knee high on the wookiees, should he?  As small as he was next to Luke, I would think the furballs would tower over him.  Boy I feel like a nerd right now, complaining that "the scale between Yoda and the wookiees isn't nearly accurate enough" (pushes up glasses). :)  Anyways, hopefully it will look good on screen.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Mikey D on February 17, 2005, 03:20 PM
Tarfull ain't bigger by any stretch of the imagination in that pic.  In fact, it could be argued that he's smaller than Chewie.  Like I said, somewhere the scale got screwed up.  I tend to believe (and based on that pic alone) that all Wookiees are basically Chewie's size.  For some reason, Hasbro decided that Wookiees should be enormous.  It'll be interesting to see the ROTS Chewie next to Tarfull and the preview Warrior.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 17, 2005, 03:23 PM
I agree Mikey, and if anyone here has seen the publicity shot of Chewie and Tarfful standing next to each other (in a "buddy" pose), they are basically the exact same height (its currently on Hyperspace if you are subscribed, but I think it has shown up elsewhere).  Tarfful might be a bit bulkier, but otherwise they are very similar in stature.  Seeing as the wookiees are one of my favorite parts of the Star Wars universe, it will bother me if they are totally out of whack in scale when it comes to the figures.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 17, 2005, 03:29 PM
So in other words, Lucas has it right and Hasbro bitched it again?  I know it's an odd concept, but I actually want my figures from different movies to be in scale to each other.   ::)  In other words, I want my POTF2 Chewie to be approximately (I know the size has changed slightly over the years) the same size as the ROTS Chewie and that doesn't look to be so, given the other wookies are just plain bigger based on the RS shot. 

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go fix the tape holding my glasses together :-X
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 17, 2005, 03:30 PM
Personally, I don't mind variations in height among the Wookies. All humans aren't the same height, so why should Wookies be all the same height?

The actual height of Tarful is difficult to tell from that shot with Yoda simply because (a) they are on a hill and (b) Tarful isn't at the same depth as Chewie - Chewie is closer and thus might appear "taller".

My hope is that the farewell picture is a DRAFT composite shot combining the digital environment and the three actors and since it was originally created, the characters have been adjusted for correct size (specifically Yoda reduced in size). Otherwise, it might be argued that Yoda is closest to the viewer and he is indeed only about Knee-high on the wookies.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 17, 2005, 03:36 PM
Quote
My hope is that the farewell picture is a DRAFT composite shot combining the digital environment and the three actors and since it was originally created, the characters have been adjusted for correct size (specifically Yoda reduced in size). Otherwise, it might be argued that Yoda is closest to the viewer and he is indeed only about Knee-high on the wookies.

That's something I was thinking of as well, maybe that shot is due to perspective.  I do know that Tarfful and Chewie (or more accurately, the actors that play them) are approximately the same height, because in that promo shot they are standing shoulder to shoulder, and are almost exactly the same height.  No big deal if the wookiees are different heights from each other, I agree, but I'm more concerned with Brent...if the wookiees (are actually, Chewie) from the ROTS line is ginormous compared to past figures.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Mikey D on February 17, 2005, 03:44 PM
So can it be assumed that ROTS Chewie is the same height as Tarfull and the Preview Warrior? (he really needs a name.  We'll just call him Bob for now)  You would think that Hasbro saw the pic of Tarfull and Chewie that's Brian's talking about and I'm sure they got some reference pic of Bob also and based their toys on them.  Chewie should be the same height as Bob and Tarfull.  If that's the case, like Brent said, Hasbro ****** up again. 

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: starwax137 on February 17, 2005, 05:35 PM
Where's that pic from, anyway? I hadn't even seen it yet.

And yeah, I'd be pretty mad if RotS Chewie is noticably taller than he is twenty years later. It's not like he's getting old and shrinking. Or am I just giving Hasbro excuses? ::)

Also, I heard a rumor that these figures were actually 4" scale not 3 3/4" scale. But as we all know, rumors don't usually mean squat. Let's just hope this one lives up to that standard.

 8)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jesse James on February 17, 2005, 06:25 PM
Yeah, the wookie debate continues...  I'm sorta thinking they're blowing the Wookies up in size too, just a tad.

Tarful and Bob shouldn't maybe tower or Yarua and Chewie like this, but who knows...  It's starting to look fishy to me though.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on February 17, 2005, 09:04 PM
Tarfull is too big in comparison now that we've seen the Chewbacca/Tarfull side by side shot, but in many of the leaked picks previously, I was under the impression that Chewie was a runt in comparison. It's not a drastic thing, and in the case of Wooks I'd prefer them to be slightly overscaled than underscaled compared to the rest of the line. I'm actually much more concerned with that absolultely crap highlight paint job happening on the figure. The yellow highlights ruin the look of the figure.

I'm really pleased to see that the Bodyguards look to be so articulated. For some reason I was expected shoddy BD quality from them. They're much better suited for proper dueling stances against Obi, now. :)

Dooku is turning out to be (so far) my favorite figure, though. He looks perfect! And he appears to be fully spoiler equipped at all proper points.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 17, 2005, 11:01 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/HanSolo1986/SithAnakinFigure.jpg)

OK, I may be late on this but did anyone else notice it comes w/ a red lightsaber?  Will Anakin rock the red at some point?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on February 17, 2005, 11:07 PM
yes

(http://images.snapfish.com/342%3B8%3A6323232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E2334%3D925%3D%3A9%3A%3DXROQDF%3E232377%3A94%3A488ot1lsi)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Mainland05 on February 17, 2005, 11:09 PM
yes

(http://images.snapfish.com/342%3B8%3A6323232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E2334%3D925%3D%3A9%3A%3DXROQDF%3E232377%3A94%3A488ot1lsi)

Oh Man!!!

Looking at that just gave me the chills!!

Whew! That is a great image! 

Anakin looks so, estrange?  Awesome!! :P

Although, nothing freaks me out worse then this:

(http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bellis1/emperor.gif)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on February 17, 2005, 11:09 PM
yes

(http://images.snapfish.com/342%3B8%3A6323232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E2334%3D925%3D%3A9%3A%3DXROQDF%3E232377%3A94%3A488ot1lsi)

PS...Any Anakin that might yield a Red Lightsaber of his own creation will probably be called Darth Vader ;)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: John C on February 17, 2005, 11:39 PM
That scene reminds me of the Luke/Vader ROTJ battle.  Lucas loves using similar stuff througout his movies, doesn't he?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Mikey D on February 18, 2005, 08:45 AM
Back to the Wookiees.

From this (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/toyfair05_04.jpg) shot, it looks like ROTS Chewie is about the same height as Tarfull.  I can't wait to see comparsion pics of the incredibly shrinking Chewie.  Old age must really hit Wookiees hard  ::)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 18, 2005, 09:01 AM
Some more pics put up recently.  First off, Galactic Hunter has a number of new hi-res shots of the ROTS figures HERE (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3974&zoneid=2).  Also, RS has continued its "preview features", and has some up of Yoda (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=89604), Emperor Palpatine (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=89606), and Mace Windu (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=89621).  I think the Yoda and Palpatine both look pretty nice (Yoda looks very poseable, and no more uni-leg....also on Palpy, digging the removable hood).  Windu on the other hand I am not impressed with.  Why can't we get a nice, normal looking Mace Windu?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Paul on February 18, 2005, 10:47 AM
http://www.snowtroopers.ca/forum/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=6737

Another Canadian first!  A little pricey but over a month early...
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 18, 2005, 11:35 AM
Alright, clearly you guys missed what I'm saying.  Look at the saber in the package.  It's a black gloved hand and it's Anakin's hilt, not Vader's.  Just struck me as odd. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on February 18, 2005, 11:38 AM
I noticed. I just didn't say anything. :P

That is pretty odd.

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 18, 2005, 12:14 PM
When he's standing over Dooku, he is using Dooku's lightsaber.  The one that comes with the Anakin figure doesn't have a curved handle like Dooku's.  I don't think that's the same saber.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 18, 2005, 01:22 PM
Alright, clearly you guys missed what I'm saying.  Look at the saber in the package.  It's a black gloved hand and it's Anakin's hilt, not Vader's.  Just struck me as odd. 

It's amazing how the toys can spoil certain elements in the movie - there is a lightsaber coming that has the feature that you can change the blade color from blue to red AND the hilt is Anakin's.

Obviously this figure covers both action at the beginning of the movie and the end.

What is MORE disturbing to me is the LACK of a right hand w/o any lightsaber molded in it! So you're either going to have to have him sitting in his fighter with no right hand! Here's to hoping that the empty right hand IS in with that figure and you just can't see it in the package.  >:(
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 18, 2005, 02:51 PM
The lightsabers are molded to the hands?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 18, 2005, 03:07 PM
It looks like so on this Anakin... why oh why?

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 18, 2005, 03:18 PM
No $h!t?  Wow. That does blow if true.  I may skip that Anakin anyway. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 18, 2005, 03:19 PM
The lightsabers are molded to the hands?

Yes, you'll see this on most of the Jedi from Collection 1 who have "slashing attacks" (like Obi-Wan, Anakin).  They come with 2 hands - one empty and one with Saber like this picture from GH.com:

Episode 3 Obi-Wan Hands (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=3478&text=&imageid=12780&box=&shownew=)


According to Hasbro, this is due to some safety violation and some lawsuits that came from the Saga Throne Room Duel Vader (in the USA and Australia) and eventually lead to a product recall in Australia:

Star Wars Toy Darth Vader Recall Info (http://bvcpnet1.mtl-acts.com/ACTSNews.nsf/a799ea568e9501e28525684e004fbe0a/4635B11F2316B8BB85256E5500499B54?open)

This way, with the lightsaber molded to the hand, the lightsabers will stay in their hands while they are doing the "slashing attack" action features that are planned for Collection 1 and won't be able to fling out and poke some kid in the eye.   ::)

Jeff
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 18, 2005, 03:21 PM
The lightsabers are molded to the hands?

Yep - the first Obi-Wan is that way, as is the deluxe quick-change Palpatine/Sidious figure.

I'm not even sure that any other figures are like this - it may be just unique to these three figures.

I just checked Mace Windu and Darth Vader (over in GH's image bank) and Darth Sidious (over at RS) and none of these three figures have the hands with lightsabers molded to them.

Odd...
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 18, 2005, 03:31 PM
At least the quick change Palpatine comes with a second hand that isn't molded to it.

I think that these other figures have them molded on so when you do the "action feature", the weapon won't go flying across the room.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 18, 2005, 03:34 PM
Rebelscum has put up a feature focusing on the BARC speeder with trooper.  You can see a small write up and several pictures of it HERE (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=89627).  Sounds like the trooper itself has a whopping 3 points of articulation.  3.  Three. :)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on February 18, 2005, 03:37 PM
I had that saber to the eye thing happen thanks to Lord Vader and his ****** action feature.
 >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 18, 2005, 03:38 PM
I think that these other figures have them molded on so when you do the "action feature", the weapon won't go flying across the room.

thanks for reading my post CHEWIE ...  :'(

According to Hasbro, this is due to some safety violation and some lawsuits that came from the Saga Throne Room Duel Vader (in the USA and Australia) and eventually lead to a product recall in Australia:

Star Wars Toy Darth Vader Recall Info (http://bvcpnet1.mtl-acts.com/ACTSNews.nsf/a799ea568e9501e28525684e004fbe0a/4635B11F2316B8BB85256E5500499B54?open)

This way, with the lightsaber molded to the hand, the lightsabers will stay in their hands while they are doing the "slashing attack" action features that are planned for Collection 1 and won't be able to fling out and poke some kid in the eye.   ::)

Jeff

You're turning into a regular JediMAC with your "post-first, read later" antics!

 :P   ;)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 18, 2005, 03:41 PM
Sorry I haven't read every single post in every thread.   :-\

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on February 18, 2005, 03:42 PM
You're turning into a regular JediMAC with your "post-first, read later" antics!

Oh, it starts with "post-first, read later", but it leads to baggy shirts and groping hooters girls.

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 18, 2005, 03:44 PM
Sorry I haven't read every single post in every thread.   :-\

 :P

I forgive you.   :-*
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 18, 2005, 03:48 PM
So Hasbro knows that collectors do not like action features.  Plus they get occasional lawsuits because of the action features.  Wow.  They must REALLY think kids like the action features if they are willing to take on lawsuits involving them and collector backlash. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 18, 2005, 03:51 PM
At least the quick change Palpatine comes with a second hand that isn't molded to it.

I think that these other figures have them molded on so when you do the "action feature", the weapon won't go flying across the room.

 :P

The Obi-Wan also comes with an empty hand and an un-lit lightsaber. I'm hoping the Anakin will have the same, but with a second hand with a lit Red lightsaber, I don't have much hope for two more accessories. This is Hasbro after all.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Scott on February 18, 2005, 03:53 PM
I think they molded the lightsabers in the hands like that because they are worried little Johnny might get a lightsaber in the eye when they do the action features
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 18, 2005, 03:56 PM
I think they molded the lightsabers in the hands like that because they are worried little Johnny might get a lightsaber in the eye when they do the action features

 >:(

I thought you were retired, smartass...    ::)

Jeff

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 18, 2005, 04:09 PM
Why does that hand pic for Obi1 have his EpII lightsaber and his EpIII lightsaber?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Jeff on February 18, 2005, 04:14 PM
Why does that hand pic for Obi1 have his EpII lightsaber and his EpIII lightsaber?

That, I don't know. 

I'd guess it iss either spoiler related, or maybe due to the fact that the figure was developed over a year ago, or maybe Hasbro is just sloppy?   :-\

Jeff
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: SilverZ on February 22, 2005, 01:08 AM
Was cruising the OS Cargo Bay tonight and noticed a few things I hadn't seen in an official capacity yet. Also, every figure we've seen previewed has April 02 listed as a release date. Hmm:

(http://cargobay.starwars.com/toys/actionfigures/3.75-inch/rots/basic/85422clonecommander.jpg)
Interesting, the OS calls him Commander Bly. You can really see the articulation at the knees and ankles. Cool.  :)

And all the Deluxe are listed as well with April dates, which seems odd, consider they've listed these, which I thought were later:

Droid / Vader Operating Table
Mission Specific Clone Trooper with Jet Pack
Vulture Droid
Yoda on Can-Cell

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 22, 2005, 01:33 AM
Also, every figure we've seen previewed has April 02 listed as a release date.

Interesting.  But I think we have to take that with a grain of salt because the Cargo Bay is notorious for having release dates out of wack.  I remember looking through the Micromachines section a while ago and they were out to lunch on a few things.

But if they're right, it's going to be a hell of wild start on April 2!
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 22, 2005, 08:19 AM
It will be interesting to see how much turns up on April 2.  I'm kind of split on it, its always nice to have the opportunity to buy more new figures, but at the same time my wallet says that 20-something is enough for that first day :).  I really like the looks of that Clone Commander/Commander Bly figure, looks pretty cool to me.  Thanks for the pic Jared.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 22, 2005, 02:13 PM
You know, I'm sure it is intentional (lighting/painting and such), but many of the figures shown in the Cargo Bay seem to look much better than the samples we have seen show online.  For example, I think Chewie looks much better here, without the pronounced yellow highlights in his fur:

(http://cargobay.starwars.com/toys/actionfigures/3.75-inch/rots/basic/85278_chewbaccaccopy.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 22, 2005, 02:35 PM
Also, every figure we've seen previewed has April 02 listed as a release date.

Interesting.  But I think we have to take that with a grain of salt because the Cargo Bay is notorious for having release dates out of wack.  I remember looking through the Micromachines section a while ago and they were out to lunch on a few things.

But if they're right, it's going to be a hell of wild start on April 2!

Yeah - they have been off in the past - I remember that the second wave of WalMart Cantina figures (Kitik, Wuhrer, Evazan) were listed on the site for quite awhile after WalMart had decided to cancel releasing those figures.

Three deluxe figures on April 2nd are plenty for me - eight on the other hand - not that I'm not excited to get this much stuff all at once - it would strike me as overkill.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 23, 2005, 08:56 AM
Galactic Hunter has some more hi-res figure shots up.  You can check out Palpatine (#35) and General Grievous (#36) right HERE (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3998&zoneid=2), and take a look at some clone-tastic pictures of the Clone Commander, Clone Pilot, and AT-RT with Pilot right HERE (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3997&zoneid=2).
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Morgbug on February 23, 2005, 09:49 AM
Hmmm, guess I can add an AT-RT to my buy on sight list.  The pilot cinched it right there.  Other clones will be in that same category. 

I understand how the evolution of the clone pilot needs to go, but does anyone else think that the clone pilot from the preceding film is actually a more functional unit in terms of practicality?  Full armor versus soft goods?  Seems more like a de-evolution towards WWII stylings. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 23, 2005, 10:31 AM
Galactic Hunter has some more hi-res figure shots up.  You can check out Palpatine (#35) and General Grievous (#36) right HERE (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3998&zoneid=2), and take a look at some clone-tastic pictures of the Clone Commander, Clone Pilot, and AT-RT with Pilot right HERE (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=3997&zoneid=2).

So I was looking at the pic of Palpatine (#35) and the loose shot shows the aged head and hands, but the carded shot shows the younger face and hands. Does this figure come with a spare head and hands just like the Dagobah Training Luke did in OTC?

If so, then doesn't this figure make the Deluxe figure kinda mute? I recognize the fact that the deluxe one has electronic lights, but putting that extra aside, don't both figures represent the SAME moment from the movie?
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Brian on February 23, 2005, 10:50 AM
I noticed that too, and was wondering the same thing.  We have that "Man-E-Palps" on the way in the Deluxe line, and I'm wondering if this is the changing heads ala Dagobah Luke as you mentioned.  That would be pretty cool.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darby on February 23, 2005, 03:19 PM
I think the only difference between the Deluxe Palpy and this one is the outfit, and from what I know, it's two different (but related) moments.  How the whole switcheroo thing works, I don't know.  I was hoping they did a basic version of the deluxe outfit, because it's my favorite.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 23, 2005, 03:38 PM
Looks to me like Emperor Palpatine is the best out of the Collection 1 figures.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Darth Broem on February 24, 2005, 09:29 AM
Yeah, I love that collection 1 Palpatine.  That is the first figure I will be searching for come April 2nd.  Followed up by many others of course. 

Hey, anyone else wondering if there will be multiple colors to that Clone Commander?  You know - green, yellow, blue?  It would be kind of cool but maddening at the same time. 
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 24, 2005, 11:42 AM
You know, I'm sure it is intentional (lighting/painting and such), but many of the figures shown in the Cargo Bay seem to look much better than the samples we have seen show online.  For example, I think Chewie looks much better here, without the pronounced yellow highlights in his fur:

(http://cargobay.starwars.com/toys/actionfigures/3.75-inch/rots/basic/85278_chewbaccaccopy.jpg)

Yeah, he looks great there.  I'll probably try to repaint one to look like that.  Why they would give it a bad paint job is beyond me.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on February 24, 2005, 12:25 PM
So mfar fromwhat I've seen, the ones I want on day 1 will be:
anakin,obi-wan (non-kick), Greviouis 4 arms, clone troopers - commander and pilots, chewie and tarful, 3p0, grevious bodyguard, yoda with cannon, maybe anakin to vader. I'll pass on the re-done jedi for now, will get some of those later.
Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 25, 2005, 11:03 AM
I truly think the only things I'll pass on in the 3-3/4" line are the Super Battle Droid and Obi Wan/Super Battle Droid deluxe.   :-\

 :P

Title: Re: ROTS carded figures
Post by: Famine on February 25, 2005, 12:13 PM
I truly think the only things I'll pass on in the 3-3/4" line are the Super Battle Droid and Obi Wan/Super Battle Droid deluxe.   :-\

 :P

Think CHEWIE, you get those and you could make an army of assasin SBD's. Customizing possabilities are endless. I for one will try and get a few as my army ranks are dwindling.

Kevin