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Title: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 28, 2008, 09:25 AM
This is part of the what I'd guess is the first wave of Legacy BP's:

Assault on the Shield Generator (VI)
Bomar Monastry (II)
Recon Patrol on Hoth (V)
Speeder Bike Recon (II)

Definitely ROTJ. Guesses as to the contents?

Cardboard bunker
Han
Chewie
Rebel Soldier
Ewok
Biker Scout
Title: Re: Legacy Assault on the Shied Generator BP
Post by: CHEWIE on May 28, 2008, 10:36 AM
Hmmm... another Battle Pack, that "could" be really good but I'm afraid it won't have as many army builders as I'd like to see.

What I'd "like" to see -
- Endor Rebel x 1 (using current sculpt, but a NEW head)
- Endor Rebel in Scout Trooper gear
- Stormtrooper x 2
- Imperial Officer (some sort of kit bash)

What I'm afraid we'll see -
- Anton's list (ha ha no offense buddy, I just don't want to see another Han and Chewbacca in these!)
Title: Re: Legacy Assault on the Shied Generator BP
Post by: Jesse James on May 28, 2008, 02:58 PM
No way it could be something to do with the AT-AT's assault on Hoth?  Just speculating there's two shield generator assaults is all...

Either way, if it's mostly repacks I'll gladly pass.  I'm kind of getting used to not caring about a lot of this junk anymore and that's a good thing.
Title: Re: Legacy Assault on the Shied Generator BP
Post by: Jeff on May 28, 2008, 03:35 PM
No way it could be something to do with the AT-AT's assault on Hoth? 

The way the pack is being solicited with a "VI" after the name, it would seem to be a RotJ pack.

I doubt it's a Hoth set because we've already got the "Hoth Trooper Speeder Bike" set AND the "Hoth Recon Patrol" set (Han/Chewie/Probe/etc) battle pack coming out this Fall.  Having 3 Hoth-themed Battle Packs in one quarter seems unlikely...
Title: Re: Legacy Assault on the Shield Generator BP
Post by: Jesse James on May 29, 2008, 02:44 AM
Just throwing something else to consider out was all, but actually I guess I hadn't even paid attention to the roman numerals afterwards.  Must've had blinders on.  That does seem to squish Hoth possibilities. 

I'm hoping for lots of Ewoks and such.  Not sure I'd care about it much if it's got some outdated figure sculpts in it though, like the AT-ST Driver body, or the Endor Rebels that I really don't want any more of unless they're all new.  I guess I'm just not hopeful on positive things with the set.  [/debbie downer]
Title: Re: Legacy Assault on the Shied Generator BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 29, 2008, 09:19 AM

What I'm afraid we'll see -
- Anton's list (ha ha no offense buddy, I just don't want to see another Han and Chewbacca in these!)

Believe me, I'd rather have yours.  :P
Title: Re: Legacy Assault on the Shield Generator BP
Post by: David on May 29, 2008, 06:25 PM
I'm hoping we get Nik Sant in one form or the other, some new Ewoks, and some SA AT-ST Drivers.

Back in reality...it's probably gonna end up being Han, Chewie, POTF2 Wicket, and more stormies. :P
Title: Re: Legacy Assault on the Shield Generator BP
Post by: Reid on May 29, 2008, 09:40 PM
My dream lineup:

POTF2 Shield Bunker
RETOOL Nik Sant (Biker Scout disguise)
NEW Ewok Warrior Wompus
NEW AT-ST Driver
NEW R2-D2 (Shot Up)

What Hasbro will give us:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/saga-hanendor_front1-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/potf2endorsoldierloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/potj/POTJlukexwingloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/TSC043emperorLS-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/POTF2playendorcatapultloose.jpg)
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2008, 12:19 AM
Pics at RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc08/Hasbro/multipacks/IMG_2721.JPG)

Hmmm... The Imp looks like the comic pack Luke with a new head, Han looks like VSTC parts, but I love the "exploded" electricity (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc08/Hasbro/multipacks/image18.asp) thing on R2.  It makes him look like all his gadgets are fried, without actually sculpting another fried R2.  Kind of a neat way to get that version of R2 finally. 


But, I can't help but wonder why there are only 4 figures shown... cost saving measure or was a fig missing for the photo?   ???
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 24, 2008, 12:35 AM
Pics at RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc08/Hasbro/multipacks/IMG_2721.JPG)

Hmmm... The Imp looks like the comic pack Luke with a new head, Han looks like VSTC parts

It's Moff Jerjerrod's body painted as the you "Rebelscum" dude. I like the new Han Head a lot. Based on the MF passengers battle pack I think the new BP will only have 4 figures.......if true that's sad.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2008, 12:43 AM
Oooh... that's right - Comic Pack Luke was Adm Ozzel not Jerjerrod, right?
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 24, 2008, 12:52 AM
Correct!
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on July 24, 2008, 01:11 AM
That's a cool friggin' set...  I like the officer, the Han looks nicer, the R2's innovative and cool, and another 3PO...  eh, ok.  I'll take a Scout army builder too.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Reid on July 24, 2008, 01:31 AM
The helmet on the scout looks quite large. Could this be Nik Sant in Scout Trooper disguise?
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 24, 2008, 08:59 AM
That's a cool friggin' set...  I like the officer, the Han looks nicer, the R2's innovative and cool, and another 3PO...  eh, ok.  I'll take a Scout army builder too.

The 3P0 is not part of that set, it's actually part of the Falcon passengers set. They are placed side by side so it can give that impression depending on the angle. Both sets only have four figures.....unless Hasbro plans to unveil them later. This may be a Q&A question to confirm the future of BP's figure count.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Brian on July 24, 2008, 09:31 AM
Not too bad of a set.  I'd probably buy it just for the R2, but the rest of the figures are pretty nice too.  Han looks to be an improvement, and the Imperial/Scout figures are always a plus.  I look forward to picking it up.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: David on July 24, 2008, 09:38 AM
Pretty cool so far! :)
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Nicklab on July 24, 2008, 11:27 AM
Pretty cool!  I figured Han Solo would be a part of this pack.  R2 looks awesome.  The Biker Scout is an obvious pack-in.  And finally, a black uni Imperial Officer!!!!
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth Gamboa on July 25, 2008, 06:52 PM
That biker scout is Nik Sant in disguise, helmet comes off.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Reid on July 25, 2008, 06:53 PM
That biker scout is Nik Sant in disguise, helmet comes off.

The helmet on the scout looks quite large. Could this be Nik Sant in Scout Trooper disguise?

Called it before ya.  ;)
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth Broem on July 25, 2008, 09:37 PM
Nice!  Gotta love the Van Sant figure.  Well I will be definately picking up this set.  That tipped me over the edge.  I like the R2 and officers. 
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JangoTat on July 25, 2008, 11:30 PM
So i guess this is a 5 figure BP and sdcc was just missing one for the display. Wierd thing is that they show 5 figures but only name 4.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Spacey on July 26, 2008, 07:33 PM
Disappointing that this Imperial Officer isn't being brought up to the quality level of Juno Eclipse... I was hoping she would be a new standard for Imperial officers. Her uniform has great texture and detail compared to the Jerjerrod sculpt, and doesn't have the awkward looking thigh bumps.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 26, 2008, 09:32 PM
I'll be happy to get this set. Decent R2, Rebel in Scout disguise (YES!), and Lt. Renz-nice. Might not need the Han, though I'm sure I can use him in another diorama.

This set seems to be worth $20.


Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on July 27, 2008, 01:01 AM
It seems these Officers aren't 100% great but the pack's still decent and with 2 officers, I'm in on that easily.  Really eases the fears of 4-figure BP's.

It seems though that the "Imp. Officer" is upgraded/updated to an extent...  Lt. Sunber in the Comic packs is pretty heavily articulated.  The parts are there, and now it's just Hasbro's timing to do truly super articulated Imp Officers... 

I think this pack's great for what it is though.  Other than Han really, which looks like an upgrade himself, there's really not much there I'm disappointed with.  Knees on impy's though, would be nice someday.  These guys sure beat the hell out of the POTJ "Officer" figures though.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 27, 2008, 10:22 AM
Unfortunately the press release at SDCC prior to showing these images mentioned that one of the 2 Imperial officers may not be included despite the pic (and supported by the number of figures listed).  In addition, the same release mentioned that Old Ben and Brainiac would not include the tables shown in their wave.  Hasbro's reasons for their secrecy with answering Q and As sure is in contrast to showing pics of things then saying we won't be getting them...
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 27, 2008, 12:36 PM
I'm really looking forward to this set. Glad that at the very least, the head sculpt is new on the imperial officer.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jeff on July 30, 2008, 05:44 PM
But, I can't help but wonder why there are only 4 figures shown... cost saving measure or was a fig missing for the photo?   ???

From the Hasbro Q&A at SSG (http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=48&p2_articleid=1579):

"Hasbro: People should get used to 4 figures in Battle Packs"

Yep - it was either $20 4-figure BPs or $25 5-figure BPs and they indeed chose the $20 price over the 5-figure format.

Not a big surprise with all the price hikes lately...  :-\
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: CHEWIE on July 30, 2008, 06:10 PM
Quote from: YAK_Jayson
From EE.com (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87779)


(http://images.entertainmentearth.com//AUTOIMAGES/HS87779lg.jpg)
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on July 30, 2008, 11:20 PM
Man...  Price hikes even going to the format that rarely gives you something new in the first place?  Soundin' pretty greedy to me.  The old motto Hasbro had was that crap like battlepacks helped them afford new toolings because of the $$$ saved by rehashing figure sculpts...  Now they go up too?  That's disappointing for sure.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: CHEWIE on July 30, 2008, 11:59 PM
Am I missing where there's definitely going to be a price hike?  If it's from something they said in a Q&A, I don't know if I believe them.  They've been known to be misleading in them before.

EE has these listed at $26.99, the same as all the other battle packs that are already out (which is the same price they have their Evolution sets at too).  So maybe we'll see the battle packs stay at the current price point...?
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JangoTat on July 31, 2008, 12:01 AM
screw this BP, just give me that scout trooper and the bunker in that picture and I will be happy.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JediJman on July 31, 2008, 12:08 AM
I'd much rather see more figures for less dollars, but if other 5 figure BPS are being released at $20, then I don't see how Hasbro is justifying 4 figure sets at the same price unless something else is included.  That being said, packs of 4 or 5 figures at $5 each is still a significant savings over $7 or $8 basic figs.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jeff on July 31, 2008, 12:10 AM
Am I missing where there's definitely going to be a price hike?
[snip]
So maybe we'll see the battle packs stay at the current price point...?

There will be no "price hike" per se, that's the whole point of dropping a figure - to avoid a price hike.  They want to keep the $20 price point, so rather than raising the price to $25 for 5 figures, they are moving to a $20 for 4 figures plan for the BPs

In some ways, it is a "price hike" because you're getting less for your money, but I guess that's just arguing semantics... 

CHEW, here was my original post with the linky...

From the Hasbro Q&A at SSG (http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=48&p2_articleid=1579):

"Hasbro: People should get used to 4 figures in Battle Packs"

Yep - it was either $20 4-figure BPs or $25 5-figure BPs and they indeed chose the $20 price over the 5-figure format.

Not a big surprise with all the price hikes lately...  :-\

Here is the full text for the context of the quote in my post...

SSG: With the recently shown "Assault on the Shield Generator", why are there only 4 figures with this set instead of the slideshow image's 5? Will this be the first of many battle packs with less than 5 figures and no vehicle or large accessory to make up for less? If so, why is that? Do you think the line can handle the change?

Hasbro: People should get used to 4 figures in Battle Packs, and that's not the case of us gouging, it's the case of... because we could have put the price up on Battle Packs, but $20 is an important strategic pricepoint. And because a lot of our Battle Packs aren't collector-targeted, they're generally kid-targeted, so doing neat things like the Shield Generator [Battle Pack] is kind of a new approach, and that's because we want to get some collector-focused ones in there, but the focus will still be on the kids' stuff. So, our choice was either put them up to $25 still with "5 figures worth", or start to take it out, and we made a decision that "keep it at $20", and that meant that we started to have to compromise. Even with what we showed you, that was a recent decision, the only way to afford that set.

SSG: That's across the board, right, not just this wave?

Hasbro: That's going to be the direction we're going across the board.

SSG: Are you going to work a little harder for new figures in these packs then?

Hasbro: In Battle Packs? In Battle Packs we're going to have the same kind of approach we've had, so you'll see, you know, the Arrest of Palpatine, you know, that may come down to a 4-figure set, but ideas like that are still critical, which is it has a high hero content, we'll still all those kid-targeted sets where nothing changes, they're all existing figures mixed in with, you know, new figures or new sets that meet the collectors' mentality. It's still gonna be a kid-first focus, but we want to get some cool collectors focus in there too. Do we think the line can handle the change? Obviously, you know what, unfortunately, that's kinda what we're faced with...

SSG: So it's a reality either way.

Hasbro: Yeah, it's a reality either way, and we chose this decision to keep it at $20 rather than [go to] $25.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JediJman on July 31, 2008, 12:25 AM
I don't understand why they were "forced" to either move the price to $25 or exclude a fig to make it $20.  Some all-powerful being has decided that a 10% increase to $22 wouldn't be a strong enough margin play?   :-\
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 31, 2008, 12:31 AM
That pic looks great; nice set of figures.  You know, another variation of Imperial that was seen at the bunker battle was a DST with an officer's head.  I made one by painting a Jerjerrod cap and putting it onto a DST body.  That might be an option for variations or something.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Nicklab on July 31, 2008, 02:50 AM
I don't understand why they were "forced" to either move the price to $25 or exclude a fig to make it $20.  Some all-powerful being has decided that a 10% increase to $22 wouldn't be a strong enough margin play?   :-\

It could very well have to do with a couple of things:

-Hitting certain profit numbers.  Executives like to show growth in their numbers.  And sometimes they achieve that goal by cutting costs.

-Oil prices impacting production.  Higher oil prices will affect the cost of running a factory, the cost of the plastic itself, and transportation costs.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 31, 2008, 09:34 AM
I'm sure it's more to do with the oil/fuel costs going up and purchases going down (because of higher fuel costs.)
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: CHEWIE on July 31, 2008, 10:19 AM
Thanks for posting that Jeff.  That does suck.  Maybe we'll luck out, but it doesn't sound like it after reading that.

I wonder why the EE listing has 5 figures still. 
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 31, 2008, 10:33 AM
It could very well have to do with a couple of things:

-Hitting certain profit numbers.  Executives like to show growth in their numbers.  And sometimes they achieve that goal by cutting costs.

-Oil prices impacting production.  Higher oil prices will affect the cost of running a factory, the cost of the plastic itself, and transportation costs.

You are dead on, I can confirm the oil prices are the culprit from my company's experiences. It affects the actual plastic manufacturing to make the figures and then punches you again with the freight cost to ship overseas. Every product company out there, especially toys, is feeling it and we all had to make price increases. The days of the $10 and $20 price points are gone, you cannot deliver much anymore for those. Consumers are adjusting, you are now more commonly seeing the oddball prices like $10.99, 12.99 type prices etc.

As JJ mentioned they should have went to $21.99, I would understand and the value is still there.

If they only want to include 4 figures fine but lose the R2 and give us the officer then! Even kids have enough R2's as it is.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: iFett on July 31, 2008, 11:10 AM
Hasbro: Yeah, it's a reality either way, and we chose this decision to keep it at $20 rather than [go to] $25.

Umm....I thought Hasbro always said that retailers set their own prices  ???
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jeff on July 31, 2008, 11:22 AM
Ultimately retailers do technically set their own prices, but Hasbro has always offered a "manufacturer suggested retail price" (MSRP) for their products. 

It is up to the individual stores if they are going to undercut the MSRP (like Walmart often does), stick to the MSRP (like Target/TRU usually do), or go above it (like EE and other specialty retailers).  It all depends on their business model, volume, etc etc.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 9, 2008, 04:23 PM
From RS:

Gotta love the scout.

(http://www.rebelscum.com/2008/TLCBPshieldgenerator1.jpg)
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on August 9, 2008, 06:18 PM
Note, Nik Sant is blonde, not old...  :)

People always call him the "old guy with the big white beard" but he's actually just a blonde guy.  I think SS's 12" figure tried a compromise by making him totally bald too, but basically he's just a blonde dude, not particularly old.

ANd he dies if anyone is curious too...  In the Matte Painting LFL used for the view looking out from the doorway into Endor's forrest, you can see Nik Sant lying without his helmet on dead, apparantly shot at the onset of the Ewok ambush.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Muftak on August 9, 2008, 06:49 PM
Note to self: don't masquerade as one of the enemies when you are relying on primitive back-up.

I'm not entirely sold on this set. It comes real close to what I want, but I think it is missing the mark just enough...

The Han is a nice trade-off of the VTSC version; I like the upgraded ROTJ head.

The imperial is nice to see as well...can we just consider this guy at long last an update of the vintage Imperial Commander? Please?

Nik Sant is a nice treat...one of those things I first caught post '95, but not really one of my must-haves. I would've rather they held him back as a reason to do the eventual Scout update incorporating the new-style hip articulation they will need to ride an updated bike. And a flip-up visor would've been great, too.

Artoo. <sigh> It's a conspiracy, all right. There is absolutely no reason every vanilla Artoo sculpt since 2004 has had to be based on the vintage mold. I didn't buy it then and I don't want it now. If this had been the R4 sculpt at long last, that would have made enough of an incentive to me to buy it. Anyway, this set should've been a retooled swiss-army knife version through and through. The electricity accessory is a nice try, and I would've totally gone for it if they hadn't just released the droid factory version with real simulated damage on it. You can do better, I've seen it.

As far as the four figures go, I can see the sacrifice to maintain the price-point. If you are still skeptical, check out the "half-gallons" of ice cream at the supermarket next time you go. They have been steadily shrinking for years. Five bucks a figure is a significant discount now, and if they can keep throwing new stuff in it is worth it.

That said, I have yet to purchase a battle pack in any form. I thought the Hoth Recon would finally get me to step up, but I've seen it a few times and still passed. Maybe eventually...and maybe this set, too.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 10, 2008, 10:25 AM
This is one of those items that, the more I see it, the more I can't wait.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Rob on August 10, 2008, 11:51 AM
Same here, I think it's a great job of making new stuff out of old stuff.  I hope that all of Hasbro's battlepacks will be as well put together as this and the Hoth and Yavin sets.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on August 10, 2008, 01:59 PM
I'm loving it too, but it's so inconsequential to do 5 figures that I'm pretty annoyed at the scaling back there.  Especially since it was just basically 2 of the same guy in there.

Still, I love this set, and one of the things I look forward to the most in 2008 is that Yavin Hangar set...  That thing is amazing, but if it's short that tech it'll sting a bit.  Still, good stuff in that set too.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth Broem on August 11, 2008, 10:56 AM
I really like this set as well.  Nik is just moving right up collector ladder.  He has his own 12 inch SS figure.  Now a 3 3/4 biker scout disguise figure.  Heck he may even get his own Endor trooper figure next.  Way to go Nik.  You rock! 
Title: Re: Endor Bunker
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 18, 2008, 10:36 AM
Over on Scum, (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3234823&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=93&fpart=26&vc=1) Curto is saying that the second Imperial Officer might be (or is being) bumped to an upcoming, Endor Bunker themed UBP.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on September 22, 2008, 02:06 AM
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Johnny!

As per our front page, a boxed shot of the pack turned up thanks to our spies.  Cool figures, cool set, disappointed that there's only 4 figures though as BP's really rarely cost Hasbro much and so getting screwed over on a 4th figure just simply sucks pee pee.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Leg_ShieldGenAssault_BoxedTN2.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Leg_ShieldGenAssault_BoxedFull.jpg)
Clicky TN to see pic!

I love the Officer for what he is...  As a carded fig he'd blow, but as a bp fig he's cool.  Nik Sant kicks much ass, and I dig getting a removable helmet.  I hope we get a nik Sant in rebel commando garb.  Han is Han...  I'll take him.

R2 is cool and innovative to me.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 22, 2008, 09:28 AM
Nice. Boxed images mean it'll be on the shelves soon.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: David on September 22, 2008, 09:46 AM
Very nice set. Still a little disappointed about not getting the 2nd Imperial Officer though. I forget, is the officer we're getting in this set Lt. Renz? If so, very cool. :)
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Brian on September 22, 2008, 11:01 AM
The switch to four figures is disappointing, but I guess not unexpected any more the way things have been going.  As for those pack itself, I'm pretty excited about it.  I've really liked the OT-based battle packs we've been seeing lately, or will be seeing soon, with the Hoth pack, this one, and the upcoming Yavin one.  Although most of the figures are still just repacks or retools, it seems like they're doing a much better job with the figures included that what we've seen in past years.  Hopefully we'll continue to see the new pieces alongside the figures (like the Yavin pack) as well.  Anyways, looking forward to this one, and it seems like the battle packs are a step up from the past few years.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: CHEWIE on September 22, 2008, 01:04 PM
This is definitely an easy pass for me... so many Battle Packs I've passed on this year.  Hasbro must really not want my money.

If they had done something like this, then I would have handed over $20 to them -

- Scout Trooper Rebel Disguise (already included)
- Imperial Officer (already included)
- Stormtrooper (maybe the Tantive IV version)
- Rebel Officer (SAGA2 version w/ new head sculpt)

The Han and R2 just kill this set for me.  Oh well.  Hopefully kids will want it for Christmas.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: jedipurge on September 22, 2008, 01:15 PM
This is definitely an easy pass for me... so many Battle Packs I've passed on this year.  Hasbro must really not want my money.

If they had done something like this, then I would have handed over $20 to them -

- Scout Trooper Rebel Disguise (already included)
- Imperial Officer (already included)
- Stormtrooper (maybe the Tantive IV version)
- Rebel Officer (SAGA2 version w/ new head sculpt)

The Han and R2 just kill this set for me.  Oh well.  Hopefully kids will want it for Christmas.

I'm with you on that line up that'd be total army builder heaven.  I don't understand why they can do this with the Joes army builders, but so far all we've gotten really is the BP that came with Ayala, and to some extent the Windu BP.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Nicklab on September 22, 2008, 01:20 PM
I think the inclusion of R2-D2 is actually pretty important to this set.  Is it a perfect R2 for this scene?  Ideally, no.  I'd eventually like to see one that looks properly "exploded" with a good deal of the flaps & doors popping open.  This R2 gets about halfway there.  Would that be scene specific?  Sure, but I see scene-specificity as the future of core characters in the basic figure line.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JediJman on September 22, 2008, 01:24 PM
I think the inclusion of R2-D2 is actually pretty important to this set. 

Why?  I'd rather see a new Ewok or a Rebel Commando given the potential for a different scene.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Keonobi on September 22, 2008, 01:43 PM
I think if they did OT versions of the Battlefront 2 sets as general releases it would cover this pretty well.  Getting a Stormtrooper, Scout Trooper, DSG, Imperial Officer and Darktrooper or a new Rebel Fleet Trooper, new Rebel Sniper, repack Vanguard trooper, new Rebel Smuggler (I've suggested before a German from the Indy Sets could be adapted for this), repaint Tarrful and maybe a bothan.  I see huge army building potential here, and if I'm not mistaken, wasn't Battlefront the best selling game ever, or sometihng like that?  That would seem to be a huge potential market...
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Nicklab on September 22, 2008, 01:51 PM
I think the inclusion of R2-D2 is actually pretty important to this set. 

Why?  I'd rather see a new Ewok or a Rebel Commando given the potential for a different scene.

First, from a pure sales perspective?  Han and R2 are going to help sell this set to the casual buyer.  Mom's and Dad's who are buying for their kids are going to more readily recognize Han & R2.

As for R2's importance to this setting as a whole?  Who was trying to break into the Endor bunker?  It was R2 with Han protecting him.  That gives the set a sense of story, instead of just "good guys vs bad guys".

We know we're getting more Ewoks next year.  Plus the three in the comic packs.  As for an Endor Rebel?  Do you really think that Hasbro would package a really good Endor Rebel into a battle pack?  I don't.  I think they would save a new figure like that for the Basic Figure line.  They'd probably make more money that way since army builders would be more inclined to buy multiples of a basic figure than multiples of battle packs with figures that aren't as well articulated.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on September 22, 2008, 09:05 PM
I'm overall pretty pleased with the set myself...  If I get it for $20 anyway.  $25, not so much...  Not at all really.

I see Scum's got this in their photoarchive tonight so we got a double-dose of the set today.  Yippee...  I think the Nik Sant is obviously the highlight of it...  I know I'd rather get a Stormtrooper Officer with more articulation on a basic card someday, but that's a decent figure for now I suppose.  Han's head looks to be an improvement over the vintage figure, or my eyes are deceiving me.  And I find R2 "acceptable".  I thought the accessory was innovative, but I would rather see a carded one that's more complex someday too.

Bummer no 2nd Officer, but whatever...  Just gotta suck it up and accept the ****** reality.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth Broem on September 22, 2008, 11:09 PM
Wow, I thought people would be happier with this set.  I just wish they would have added a Death Star Trooper (well Fleet Trooper) to the set or even an ewok or both really.  For some reason the republic commandos bore the hell out of me as far as Star Wars figures go. 
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 23, 2008, 09:48 AM
I'd rather have all new characters as well, but I understand the point of the set and think it works for who is in it.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 23, 2008, 03:39 PM
Pretty nifty - anyone else notice this is the best likeness of Harrison Ford Hasbro has ever done?

And the scout and imperial officer are spiffy as well.

Those 3 figures are worth $20 so I'll pick this one up, with bells on even.

To the extent that I ever wear bells of course.

Han's head looks to be an improvement over the vintage figure, or my eyes are deceiving me. 

Right you are, man.  From 'scum:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC/BattlePacks/ShieldGeneratorAssault/TLC-099.jpg)
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: CHEWIE on September 23, 2008, 03:59 PM
For those that think this is a great set to launch the 4-figure format, I see more than enough R2s and Carkoon Hans warming pegs as it is...

The head on Han does look like an improvement, but this set is not worth $20 to me, or $25 at TRU.  No way.

Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 24, 2008, 09:04 AM
Any way you slice it, 3 basic figures at retail cost $22 to $25 anymore. 4 figures for $20 is a deal by comparison.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: jedi_master_sal on September 24, 2008, 11:37 AM
Any way you slice it, 3 basic figures at retail cost $22 to $25 anymore. 4 figures for $20 is a deal by comparison.

Yeah, I'll take this deal.

Han is an improvement. The new Rebel in Scout armor has been wanted for sometime. The Imp officer will make a good addition to the Imperial ranks. So for me it's just the R2 that's a little bit of a stinker. Still, consider the $8 per figure price today, it's like I'm getting R2 for free and then some.

This is a good deal folks, even if most of the figure parts are rehashes. It just different enough to pick up.

Though I hope the Imp officer gets single carded again as I'd want more of that one to army build a little.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: CHEWIE on September 24, 2008, 11:53 AM
Any way you slice it, 3 basic figures at retail cost $22 to $25 anymore. 4 figures for $20 is a deal by comparison.

It's the desire for the figures though for me.  If this whole set was just $10, I probably would still pass.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 24, 2008, 03:22 PM
Outside of the R2 I am really digging this set mainly for the Han head sculpt & Black uniformed imperial. It actually looks like Harrison Ford, I plan on dumping my VOTC Han in favor of this one. While the one less figure sucks it really is a good deal anyway you cut it with $7-8 figures. I hope we see more OTC Battle packs, I really liked the Hoth ones. I plan on buying two sets of this ROTJ one. I will have one extra Nik and R2 if anyone is interested on my trade list when this comes out.

I hope to see Nik in his regular attire soon.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Rob on September 24, 2008, 08:50 PM
For those that think this is a great set to launch the 4-figure format, I see more than enough R2s and Carkoon Hans warming pegs as it is...

The head on Han does look like an improvement, but this set is not worth $20 to me, or $25 at TRU.  No way.

Any way you slice it, 3 basic figures at retail cost $22 to $25 anymore. 4 figures for $20 is a deal by comparison.

Anton beat me to it, but my comment was going to be that they were still $5 figures, which is a heck of a discount in the era of $7.99 figures.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jayson on September 24, 2008, 08:57 PM
I suspect that the Carkoon Hans are warming due to the simple fact that the younger collectors have no idea where this figure is from and/or have never seen the cut scene footage. As far as R2 warming the pegs, that's probably due to the lack of enthusiasm for the Clone Wars figures in general and that R2 wasn't all that prominent in the CW movie. Also they shipped a **** ton of merch for the CW launch.  ;)
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: David on September 24, 2008, 09:40 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC/BattlePacks/ShieldGeneratorAssault/TLC-099.jpg)

That Han in the middle is a real turd. :P
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on September 25, 2008, 01:07 AM
Anton beat me to it, but my comment was going to be that they were still $5 figures, which is a heck of a discount in the era of $7.99 figures.

Amen, and not to mention that the Imp Officer is semi-new with the headsculpt, the Rebel Scout disguise is also semi-new, and R2's accessories are a novel idea...  Sure Han blows, but hey he has a new headsculpt too so really that's not too bad for $20-ish.  The ****** cut-back to 4 figures is disappointing to me but by no means a deal-breaker on this set. 

There's lots of "new enough" in there for me personally.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: CHEWIE on September 25, 2008, 01:58 AM
Glad some people seem excited by this set, it's just not to my liking though.  I guess I really don't care too much for Endor, so that could have something to do with it.

Also, if the current Hoth set with 5 figures in it is collecting dust, I reckon this one will sell even worse with one less figure... I just think that Hasbro is going to need to make these sets more exciting if they're taking a figure out of them.  Especially for what is going to be the first set in the 4-figure format (at least I think this is going to be the first one).

Start off this format with something like a new Geonosis Arena set with Coleman Trebor, Pablo Jill, Shaak Ti and Evolutions Anakin or something with some more desirable figures... or at least I see those as more desirable.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: Daigo-Bah on September 25, 2008, 10:37 AM
I'm really pleased with the Han head; while a minor change to the entire figure, it sure is a big improvement!  My disappointment with the set is that the R2 tools are a part of the electricity accessory.  I don't like to display "effects" in my dioramas (like blaster firings, lightsaber deflections, and electricity).  But I can find a use for all 4 figures, so I'll buy a set.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: jedipurge on September 25, 2008, 11:44 AM
I'm really pleased with the Han head; while a minor change to the entire figure, it sure is a big improvement!  My disappointment with the set is that the R2 tools are a part of the electricity accessory.  I don't like to display "effects" in my dioramas (like blaster firings, lightsaber deflections, and electricity).  But I can find a use for all 4 figures, so I'll buy a set.

"like blaster firings, lightsaber deflections, and electricity"-if you got any laying around I'd buy.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Brian on October 21, 2008, 03:07 PM
This battle pack (as well as the Clone Wars Bo'Marr Monastery) is up for preorder at HTS (shipping 11/17).  If you use the recent code (MDCREW), its a pretty decent deal.  I went ahead and ordered both and its cheaper than retail would be around here.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: evenflow on October 21, 2008, 08:48 PM
Thanks for the heads up, i placed an order for the set.
Title: Re: TLC "Assault on the Shield Generator" Battle Pack
Post by: JediJman on October 21, 2008, 11:50 PM
I think the inclusion of R2-D2 is actually pretty important to this set. 

Why?  I'd rather see a new Ewok or a Rebel Commando given the potential for a different scene.

First, from a pure sales perspective?  Han and R2 are going to help sell this set to the casual buyer.  Mom's and Dad's who are buying for their kids are going to more readily recognize Han & R2.

As for R2's importance to this setting as a whole?  Who was trying to break into the Endor bunker?  It was R2 with Han protecting him.  That gives the set a sense of story, instead of just "good guys vs bad guys".

We know we're getting more Ewoks next year.  Plus the three in the comic packs.  As for an Endor Rebel?  Do you really think that Hasbro would package a really good Endor Rebel into a battle pack?  I don't.  I think they would save a new figure like that for the Basic Figure line.  They'd probably make more money that way since army builders would be more inclined to buy multiples of a basic figure than multiples of battle packs with figures that aren't as well articulated.

I couldn't disagree more.  I'm a dad and have plenty of friends with kids who are into Star Wars.  I don't know of any of them that would buy this for their kids based on Han and R2 being recognizable.  If anything, kids will tell the parents which sets they want and most kids probably have one of a gazillion versions of Han or R2 already.  When I was young, troopers were always the coolest figs after you had your 2nd, 3rd, 4th version of the main characters and I'd bet that most kids feel the same way today.

I think Ewoks, more imperials, a rebel diguised as a Biker Scout - all of these not only align with the "scene" in the set, but would be much more appealing to kids and collectors alike.  Heck, I'd rather have a wounded Leia than another R2 - that scene was better and more meaningful than R2 getting fried.  Repainted ewoks or even the same Ewoks from the Target Ultimate Battle Pack would be more appealing and probably even cheaper to include than a "new" R2.

Don't agree with your comment on Army builders either.  If you put four army building figures into a battle pack, I think they would sell like hot cakes.  Why would an army builder prefer to buy single carded figures at $8 versis BP figures at $5?  The problem is that most BPs don't include Army building figures or force you to buy extras of additional figures you don't want.  Not sure what Battle Pack surplus looks like where you're located, but I'm seeing a ton of leftover Hoth Recon Patrol sets (scene/main character driven) and very few Speeder Bike Recon or Hoth Speeder Bike Patrols - both of which are potential army builders and happen to come with two fewer figures for the same price.

Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 22, 2008, 09:23 AM
Given from what we know of Hasbro, Nicklab's reasoning about sales is spot on and I would agree as well. Hasbro's going for the Mom's and Dad's and most Mom's and Dad's I see in the SW isle are looking for the characters they know. While I would have liked to see something more along the lines of what Jman is suggesting, I know logically why we got what we got.

I cracked this set open as soon as I got it home yesterday. Cool set for being one less figure.

Nik saint, well done. They resculpted the scout torso to fit a new head and matched the old one perfectly. My only gripe, there's no weathering detail at all.

Renz, I'm bias being an Imperial enthusiast. The head sculpt looks great and they corrected the wide stance on the legs.

R2, good gimmick. Works for me.

Han, I have to admit, the new head sculpt is fantastic. Almost makes the inclusion of this version worth it. Almost.  ;)
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Nicklab on October 22, 2008, 09:44 AM
I think the inclusion of R2-D2 is actually pretty important to this set. 

Why?  I'd rather see a new Ewok or a Rebel Commando given the potential for a different scene.

First, from a pure sales perspective?  Han and R2 are going to help sell this set to the casual buyer.  Mom's and Dad's who are buying for their kids are going to more readily recognize Han & R2.

As for R2's importance to this setting as a whole?  Who was trying to break into the Endor bunker?  It was R2 with Han protecting him.  That gives the set a sense of story, instead of just "good guys vs bad guys".

We know we're getting more Ewoks next year.  Plus the three in the comic packs.  As for an Endor Rebel?  Do you really think that Hasbro would package a really good Endor Rebel into a battle pack?  I don't.  I think they would save a new figure like that for the Basic Figure line.  They'd probably make more money that way since army builders would be more inclined to buy multiples of a basic figure than multiples of battle packs with figures that aren't as well articulated.

I couldn't disagree more.  I'm a dad and have plenty of friends with kids who are into Star Wars.  I don't know of any of them that would buy this for their kids based on Han and R2 being recognizable.  If anything, kids will tell the parents which sets they want and most kids probably have one of a gazillion versions of Han or R2 already.  When I was young, troopers were always the coolest figs after you had your 2nd, 3rd, 4th version of the main characters and I'd bet that most kids feel the same way today.


Don't agree with your comment on Army builders either.  If you put four army building figures into a battle pack, I think they would sell like hot cakes.  Why would an army builder prefer to buy single carded figures at $8 versis BP figures at $5?  The problem is that most BPs don't include Army building figures or force you to buy extras of additional figures you don't want.  Not sure what Battle Pack surplus looks like where you're located, but I'm seeing a ton of leftover Hoth Recon Patrol sets (scene/main character driven) and very few Speeder Bike Recon or Hoth Speeder Bike Patrols - both of which are potential army builders and happen to come with two fewer figures for the same price.


Did you not read the words CASUAL BUYER when you quoted my post?  ::)

You cite yourself in a response as a Dad with kids who like Star Wars.  But you're a collector.  That rules you out as a CASUAL BUYER.  And given your collector status you're more motivated by what you'd like to get in order to add something new to your collection than a move that would drive sales with a broader audience.

Hasbro split their efforts with this pack.  Nik Sant and Lt. Renz are in there for the collectors.  R2 is something of a bridge figure, since it's something of a new version even though we have numerous versions of R2-D2.  Han is a retread, albeit with a new head.  That one is for the CASUAL BUYER parent who doesn't know Nik Sant or Lt. Renz.  Believe it or not, there are actually people who have never seen the movies, despite their cultural pervasiveness.

As for Battle Packs of pure army builders?  Come on.  Have you been in a Toys R Us store lately?  I have.  And I've seen those late 30AC TRU exclusive battle packs.  And when I see that the Hoth Patrol set with Luke, tauntaun and wampa continues to sell much better than the pure army building set with the Battle Droid Pilots, STAP's and Super Battle Droid....that should tell you something.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: CHEWIE on October 22, 2008, 11:12 AM
For what it's worth, in my neck of the woods the battle packs that are stuffed with army builders do very well.  The ones with core characters tend to sit longer, and in some cases get clearanced out.  And those Hoth Recon sets are EVERYWHERE.  Seems like very few kids are wanting them - while the army builder packs are hard to find now.

At both my TRU, there are more Wampa sets than STAP sets too... I understand that might not be the case everywhere, but in my area that's just how it is.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Brian on October 22, 2008, 11:25 AM
Yeah, it kind of surprises me how often I see the Hoth Recon pack as well.  I mean, I can see maybe why kids aren't as interested in that one (I really think they lean more towards prequels/Clone Wars for the most part), but that's the one I was looking forward to the most.  To be honest, none of the new "TLC" battle packs are particularly abundant around here though.  Sure, you can find them, but none of our stores are currently overstuffed with any of them.  I think the army builder packs do probably appeal more overall, although I do wonder how often parents/casual buyers really grab these battle packs any more.  I'm sure there are some, but once you hit that $20 pricepoint, they can get a "greatest hit" video game for the various consoles - which seem to be more popular with younger kids all the time.  Its disappointing, but it seems like the window where kids are interested in "toys" is getting smaller all the time.  Heck, our nephews are 6 and 8 years old - and really into Star Wars - but once they got a PS2 for Christmas last year all they really talk about is video games.  I guess I stayed interested in action figures as a kid a lot longer than that, but maybe I was strange.

Anyways, back to the topic, I think if Hasbro would put out battle packs just themed like "Troops of the Empire" or something with a VOTC/Tantive Stormtrooper, VTSC Snowtrooper, VTSC Scout, and TAC Sandtrooper, they would sell like hotcakes.  They could do the same for prequel troops (or Rebel troops, once they get new/better versions done).  I can also say that I'm a sucker for the OT "scene" packs like the Hoth Recon and Shield Generator packs, but I might be in the minority there too.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Keonobi on October 22, 2008, 11:32 AM
Anyways, back to the topic, I think if Hasbro would put out battle packs just themed like "Troops of the Empire" or something with a VOTC/Tantive Stormtrooper, VTSC Snowtrooper, VTSC Scout, and TAC Sandtrooper, they would sell like hotcakes.  They could do the same for prequel troops (or Rebel troops, once they get new/better versions done).  I can also say that I'm a sucker for the OT "scene" packs like the Hoth Recon and Shield Generator packs, but I might be in the minority there too.

Brian I agree with you.  I think army builder packs would be great sellers.  I'm a big fan of the BF games, and if they did OT versions of those as a general release I think it would be very well accepted by collectors and more casual fans.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: ruiner on October 22, 2008, 12:03 PM
How well did the Tantive IV set sell?

With regards to the Hoth Recon set, I think it needs a snowtrooper or two added in - kids love troopers.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Brian on October 22, 2008, 12:04 PM
How well did the Tantive IV set sell?

With regards to the Hoth Recon set, I think it needs a snowtrooper or two added in - kids love troopers.

That's one thing, the Tantive IV set sat (and I think may still be sitting) at our local Toys R Us store.  Target and WM have since sold through those older TAC sets, but yeah, the Tantive set wasn't a tough find around here.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: jedipurge on October 22, 2008, 12:28 PM
Well when I see army builders BP's for G.I. Joes, Crimson Guard/Generic Joe set as examples, I get very jealous.  I'd love to see something along the line like we got w/Ayala set and the Mace set was kinda cool too so it's not like Hasbro isn't willing to do these sets for SW, just wish they'd do it more often.  How about an Obi with a couple 2 Utupa clones, a Cody, & an airborne. C'mon Hasbro.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: CHEWIE on October 22, 2008, 02:29 PM
The Tantive is a good example of an army builder set that might have done even better if it were handled differently.  But from what I could tell, that set sold pretty well in my area, especially considering how back the POTJ Rebel Fleet Troopers suck... and I agree purge, I get jealous when I see those Joe sets stuffed with army builders at TRU.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Brian on October 22, 2008, 04:01 PM
I actually just found this set at our local Target over my lunch today, so they are making their way in from the coast(s) now the way it seems.  I didn't see the Clone Wars (Bo'Marr Monastery) pack at our store though.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on October 22, 2008, 11:12 PM
I saw it tonight at K-Mart for $27.39...  So obviously I passed on it, but for $20 it's kinda nice.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Rob on October 23, 2008, 12:47 AM
I found it at Target today.  It's a nice set, but at $23.70 or so after tax, all the value of the battle pack is gone.  It's more like finding a 4 figure wave at nearly $6 each.  :-\
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 23, 2008, 09:18 AM
I've seen this at K-Mart as well (been hitting it due to the sale) and this pack sitting at that price.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Keonobi on October 23, 2008, 09:24 AM
Are the 3 3/4" battle packs on sale too?  i thought it was just the galactic hero cinema scenes.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on October 23, 2008, 03:40 PM
BP's aren't on sale.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Keonobi on October 23, 2008, 04:00 PM
That's what I thought, I think I was reading into Darth_Anton's post.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 27, 2008, 02:54 PM
I found it at Target today.  It's a nice set, but at $23.70 or so after tax, all the value of the battle pack is gone.  It's more like finding a 4 figure wave at nearly $6 each.  :-\

Yeah - I picked up one of each of the new battlepacks this weekend at WM and I noticed that the price on them jumped by $2. So instead of $19.76, they were $21.76 = $5.44/figure - the battlepacks are precariously teetering on the verge of no longer being a good value.

I thought the reason why we lost one figure per pack was to keep the packs at the $20 price point.

We all know what happens next - hitting the $25 price point on these won't be considered that big of a deal anymore.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 27, 2008, 03:07 PM
I found it at Target today.  It's a nice set, but at $23.70 or so after tax, all the value of the battle pack is gone.  It's more like finding a 4 figure wave at nearly $6 each.  :-\

Yeah - I picked up one of each of the new battlepacks this weekend at WM and I noticed that the price on them jumped by $2. So instead of $19.76, they were $21.76 = $5.44/figure - the battlepacks are precariously teetering on the verge of no longer being a good value.

I thought the reason why we lost one figure per pack was to keep the packs at the $20 price point.

We all know what happens next - hitting the $25 price point on these won't be considered that big of a deal anymore.

I hear ya. I brought this up before that I would rather pay $25 for five figures than $22 for four. But you know the Hasbro response will be that the stores set the price. When it comes to Star Wars I will happily pay for the cool items, they got me by the balls anything OTC. However, I am more inclined to pass on repaints like the TRU Arc. I will no longer buy everything just because. It's been great passing on the animated CW line for the most part.

Everything in the Toy aisle these days is pretty damn expensive with the average price of action figures at $9. We need to start manufacturing in another country. The "cheap China goods" are no longer cheap. I wonder if the gas prices dropping will start helping pricing again.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2008, 10:48 AM
I wonder if the gas prices dropping will start helping pricing again.

I read an article recently in TIME magazine (IIRC) that explained how falling gas prices most likely won't impact the higher prices of consumer goods.  While gasoline prices are dictated by the futures market, the prices of goods are determined by the stores and the MSRP's, and manufacturers don't usually see the need to pass the savings back to the consumer.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: jedi_master_sal on October 28, 2008, 11:33 AM
...and manufacturers don't usually see the need to pass the savings back to the consumer.

Well with the state of the economy, they BETTER start passing on the savings or people will be even less inclined to buy their products.

I bought this set from HTS. They have it for $19.99. (It's out of stock right now) On top of that I used the code MDCREW and got about 20% off my order. It ended up costing me $15.99 before tax/shipping. Although my order was large, so the savings actually wiped out the tax and shipping AND I save an additional $10 off retail!

-Sal
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: JediJman on October 28, 2008, 08:52 PM
...and manufacturers don't usually see the need to pass the savings back to the consumer.

Well with the state of the economy, they BETTER start passing on the savings or people will be even less inclined to buy their products.

I bought this set from HTS. They have it for $19.99. (It's out of stock right now) On top of that I used the code MDCREW and got about 20% off my order. It ended up costing me $15.99 before tax/shipping. Although my order was large, so the savings actually wiped out the tax and shipping AND I save an additional $10 off retail!

-Sal

Okay, I'm no math expert, but how do you figure you saved an additional $10 off retail?  It dropped to $16 using your code versus just below $22 at retail - that's not even $6 in savings and you still had to pay tax.  Did you check shipping price pre and post adding this to your basket?  I believe HTS prices shipping based on your dollar total (or maybe I'm thinking of EE), so I'd bet you still had an upcharge of some kind.  It's still a better price than retail I'm sure.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 29, 2008, 09:18 AM
He bought more than just the BP. The combination of everything earned the $10 discount.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: jedi_master_sal on October 29, 2008, 04:28 PM
He bought more than just the BP. The combination of everything earned the $10 discount.

Precisely. Not only did I buy this battle pack and the STAP animated BP, I also bought 2 animated figs, and several Galactic Heroes holiday 3-packs.

I actually save $40, but some of that accounted for shipping and tax. So the $10 is what I saved in the end under retail, before tax.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: CHEWIE on October 31, 2008, 10:33 AM
I think these are already starting to warm shelves around here... the STAP set is selling better for sure... still very early of course though.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 1, 2008, 09:07 AM
It's the opposite in my neck of the woods. The STAP's aren't selling at all. Everyone's buying the Shield Generator and Animated Speederbike packs right off the bat. 
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: DoctorPadawan on November 1, 2008, 01:30 PM
I think these are already starting to warm shelves around here... the STAP set is selling better for sure... still very early of course though.

The same thing is happening around me.  I've only seen the STAP set once (and I bought it), and the Shield Generator set sits for days until someone finally buys it.  I think that Hasbro dropping a figure for "cost" issues, and then seeing the stores raise the price anyway is rather disconcerting.  I can justify paying 22 bucks for two STAPs and two figures, but 22 bucks for yet another Han Solo, yet another subpar R2-D2, and two repaints with new heads?  Yikes.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: jedi_master_sal on November 2, 2008, 07:48 AM
Well I got my second shipping notice for some more of the large order I did through HTS.

I'll be getting the following within a few days:
Star Wars Battle Packs: Shield Generator Assault
General Grievous
Stass Allie
The Clone Wars Battle Packs: B’omarr Monastery Assault


I already got Ahsoka, Cody and all four GH oliday 3-packs.

I just KNEW I'd get these items sooner. The 2 battle packs were not supposed to ship until the middle of Nov. And the two Legacy wv3 figs not until Dec. But I've had enough ordering experience with Hasbro to know differently.

Strangely, the other 4 figs in that wave aren't shipping yet, but I'm not in a rush. I know I'll get them. I haven't seen this wave in stores, and with all the pegwarming in my area, it's quite likely I won't until I'e already received the full order from Hasbro.

I suggest to those who want to save money on these to shop through Hasbrotoyshop.com.

Use the code MDCREW.  IIRC, that saves 20% off your order.

Again due to this, I only paid about $16 per battle pack and $5.60 per figure. To me that's a BIG savings and far offsets the waiting on the order to ship.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: pegger on November 2, 2008, 07:58 AM
When and if they ever decide to Canada - it'll be great.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Jesse James on November 3, 2008, 12:55 AM
I got this set today and it's very nice...  It's nicer if it had a 5th figure, as it should, but still $20-ish for 4 figures isn't horrible, especially these days.  I just wish a second officer had been included, and that Hasbro maybe would've gone the extra mile to give the officer(s) some articulation and removable hats.  The knee joints missing are always a downer to me, and I love removable officer caps.

Love the Rebel Scout though, and Han's a nice replacement to the VTSC Han.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Daigo-Bah on November 15, 2008, 07:53 PM
I keep passing on this one; if I can get it on sale I may bite.  I'm not a fan of the electricity effects, and I think R2's tools are attached to it rather than him?  I do like the Han headsculpt, but I've had rathered they made the flip-up visor for the Scout rebel (with maybe a better face sculpt too).  Black Imperial's nice though.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Morgbug on February 7, 2009, 12:53 PM
This set finally showed up at TRU in Canada at $29.99.  Saw it for the first time yesterday.  Passed on it at that price point, though I did think it looked ok. 
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 13, 2009, 12:01 PM
The new Han head sculpt & the Officer are the best part of it. I bought several Hans to replace my other ones including the OTC ANH version. It looks more accurate and more like Harrison "Flying Fridge" Ford. I like consistency among my figures so all of those small heads my Han's once had are long gone. I also uses the Smuggler Lando head on my OTC one because that looks more like Billy-Dee.
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Theta 288 on February 13, 2009, 03:37 PM
This set finally showed up at TRU in Canada at $29.99.  Saw it for the first time yesterday.  Passed on it at that price point, though I did think it looked ok. 

Then go to Kmart $25. I dont know you Canada is the same, but my TRU's has them at $24.  Walmart price up again $23.94, then Target $21 plus, but yes, this pack & hoth are almost extict anywhere.

Get cupons that helps. 
Title: Re: TLC "Shield Generator Assault" Battle Pack
Post by: Morgbug on February 15, 2009, 12:38 AM
No Kmart in Canada.  No Target in Canada.  Walmart here doesn't carry them and my TRU is indeed at the $30 pricepoint.  Still a pass.