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Title: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: mutantpoo on June 4, 2005, 12:58 AM
Do you think it should have deserved a PG-13 rating ?

I kinda feel it was more of a "  look at our movie people " advertisement .

I didn't find the saber chopping that much worse than the other films. More yes but I think most people even kids are used to it by now. I remember more people in the theaters being upset over the ewoks that were killed than the new padme scene.
And it's supposed to be more emotional but people were emotional with the originals back then too.
I suppose it's all perspective.

I remember PG films of old had plenty of violence , blood and even some nudity and nobody said anything.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Jesse James on June 4, 2005, 01:10 AM
The last time I watched the film was on a Saturday with my gf and her sons...  I saw it with about as "general" an audience as I have so far...  Random people, many who decided to go see it on a whim I figure.

The one scene people kinda gasped at, and what I think earned the PG-13 rating, was Anakin burning...  I was sort of taken aback by the people around me and how they reacted.  I heard some kids start murmurring, one little cried a little... 

The chopping, slicing, and dying was kinda played down, but Anakin's part I think is what earned any PG-13 rating.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Darby on June 4, 2005, 05:12 AM
I agree.  The dismembering wasn't any more gruesome than it has been before in SW.  It was the immolation scene.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Darth Broem on June 4, 2005, 06:15 PM
Yes it deserved the PG-13 rating.  Easily.  This is the problem.  If Lucas gets to slap on the PG rating then  ALL of the parents in the world think it will be just like all the other films...safe.  This one is not as safer as the other 5.  At least not for little kids that generally go to PG films. 

 This one has the hero going bad, getting his legs and arms lopped off, burnt alive, painful screams, hero's wife choked almost to death, while pregnant, some scary music, deformed faces, kids being killed by the hero, etc. etc.  As a whole it's too much for some kids and there needed to be a warning.  If there had not been could you imagine the outcry.   It would have been bad news. 

Most kids can take it I realized that.  However, the second showing featured not one, not two, but three different children crying at various points during the film.  Not just at the burning of Anakin either. 

One kid lost it while seeing Kenobi and Yoda looking at the dead padawans.  Another during Palpatine's face getting deformed.  Another kid was escorted by his parents during the Padme's pregnancy screams.  I think one of the same kids mentioned allready was murmuring or crying when Anakin burns. 
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Famine on June 4, 2005, 07:12 PM
Am I the only one im the Immolation scene who wanted to yell "Flame on!" when Anakin popped aflame?


Anyway, yeah I definatley think it was worth the PG13...

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 4, 2005, 09:15 PM
I think the Anakin dismemberment scene and catching on fire warrents a PG-13 rating without question. My five year old is dying to see the movie, but I know she would cause a big stir durring that sequence. The MPAA made the right call.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Deanpaul on June 5, 2005, 12:33 AM
My 5 year old daughter said it's not nearly as scarry as the Exorcist.

And my 2 1/2 year old liked watching Anakin burn, because he's bad. I mean Anakin is bad, not my son.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Morgbug on June 5, 2005, 12:58 AM
My 5 year old daughter said it's not nearly as scarry as the Exorcist.

And my 2 1/2 year old liked watching Anakin burn, because he's bad. I mean Anakin is bad, not my son.

Sweet Jesus, you really are a horrible father :P
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Darth Broem on June 5, 2005, 09:34 AM
My 5 year old daughter said it's not nearly as scarry as the Exorcist.

And my 2 1/2 year old liked watching Anakin burn, because he's bad. I mean Anakin is bad, not my son.

What was the Exorcist?  R? Most movies probably are not as scary as that.  LOL! 

For every 2 year old kid that likes seeing Anakin burn we get another 2 year old kid that crys watching the trailer. 
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Famine on June 5, 2005, 12:23 PM
I think he was joking?

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Deanpaul on June 5, 2005, 01:32 PM
I think he was joking?

Kevin
:-*

But only about the Exorcist comment.

I took both of them and they loved it. It was their favorite Star Wars yet.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Morgbug on June 5, 2005, 04:57 PM
I think he was joking?

Kevin

He's still a bad, bad man.  Trust me, I know. >:(
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Famine on June 5, 2005, 07:02 PM
Dp=the press pass lady?! :o


Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Mister Skeezler on June 5, 2005, 11:11 PM
Keep in mind we live in the "post-Janet Jackson's boob popping crazy ****head conservative parent groups ******* with everyone's life" era.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Darth Broem on June 6, 2005, 08:40 AM
I think he was joking?

Kevin

I was not upset or anything.  Damn my communication skills :( 
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Deanpaul on June 6, 2005, 11:28 AM
I think he was joking?

Kevin

I was not upset or anything.  Damn my communication skills :( 

It's cool - I never thought you were upset. The Exorcist joke was at the end of a thread that existed on an ezBoard that got nuked. The jist of it was that different kids are ready for different things at different ages. Which is exactly what you said.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: MommySkywalker on June 7, 2005, 08:04 PM
I didn't find the saber chopping that much worse than the other films. More yes but I think most people even kids are used to it by now. I remember more people in the theaters being upset over the ewoks that were killed than the new padme scene.
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It wasn't the lightsaber duels that caused me concern for my son -- it was seeing the dead Jedi younglings strewn about, and more so, the crispy Anakin scenes.  I think PG-13 was appropriate.


Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 10, 2005, 08:57 PM


It wasn't the lightsaber duels that caused me concern for my son -- it was seeing the dead Jedi younglings strewn about, and more so, the crispy Anakin scenes.  I think PG-13 was appropriate.




Precisely. I also think I would have a hard time explaining why this happened to Anakin to my five year old. Dooku, the bad guy is one thing. Anakin, the central character to the story, and the graphic imagery is another.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 11, 2005, 05:16 PM
Well said, Anthony.  I can't imagine trying to explain how and why Anakin went to the Dark Side in such a brutal way.

Whenever my daughter sees my toys, the first question is usually:  "Is he a good guy or bad guy?" 

"Well, he started off good, but turned bad." "How come, Daddy?"

Yikes, if she had actually seen his change to the Dark Side...
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Nicklab on June 11, 2005, 05:48 PM
I certainly find the rating justified. 

First off, the way Dooku's hands are cut off...so deliberate.  It's slow and borderline malicious compared with some of the other scenes where we've seen people lose limbs to lightsabers.  The beheading makes it that much worse.

Then the younglings.  Killing children, or even the implication of it is hard to take.  I know the movie is not reality, and I've seen it 4 times, but I still shudder every time I see Anakin ignite his lightsaber in the Jedi Council Chamber.

Finally, the immolation.  It seems far too realistic and it's easily the most disturbing image of the entire saga.  Watching even the illusion of someone burning alive is not for the faint of heart.

I definitely think that those items alone are enough justification for the PG-13 rating.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 11, 2005, 06:16 PM
I still shudder every time I see Anakin ignite his lightsaber in the Jedi Council Chamber.

Thank you for mentioning that.  I think the most disturbing moment, even moreso than Anakin burning, is when he ignites his lightsaber in the temple and the youngling jumps from surprise/shock/fear. 

It's not the most graphic image, but the fear in his eyes and my realization that Anakin is really going to kill them all?  Sometimes the imagination is much more disturbing than anything they can show on the screen.
Title: Re: ROTS 's PG-13 rating justified ?
Post by: Nicklab on June 12, 2005, 10:37 AM
Precisely.  The insinuation of what is about to happen in the Jedi Council chamber is extremely disturbing.  If you have a brain in your head you know what is about to happen.  It makes the whole thing that much more tragic.