background thread Joe.
I thought your parents won't let you give your stuff away to strangers? If that's not the case anymore we'd be glad to have you aboard, I'll be throwing up a tutorial or two here in the next few weeks before we get into the design stage, so even if you've never done something like this before you should be able to participate. If your parents aren't too keen on letting you send your stuff away have them read over the threads here so they can get an idea what we are all about and maybe they'd be willing to make an exception.
How goes the model building?
Great to see this Brent. It looks like it will be a good design. I don't see a reason to miter the corners if its going to be plastered. I just wonder if its too tall. It seems to me if it was reduced by about 3" it might work better. What are the dimensions of it?
Hope you guys don't mind the incremental WIPs in this thread. If you want me to update them some where else I can. In the meantime. Here is the building with a coat of spackle and first layer of tan paint. A couple of custom figures are thrown in too boot.
Is anyone else out there working on buildings? Our assignments are due next Friday!
But I meant how big. Like How Deep Really. Its about a foot wide, so what do you think on depth? 6 inches?
OMG. Brent- that looks fantastic! The door and little details are wonderful! This needs to be in the UGP, and not just a concept!
add chairs outside
yeah he can great ideaadd chairs outside
You can certainly put my relaxing spacer on the porch if you want!
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p5525171d39a2d759e72804f92981e99a/ed770184.jpg)
Ryan - I LOVE your concept model. I just think its great. I think the greebles you added really make it stand out (although I wonder if the rebels put the thermal detonator on the roof ;D ). Also the texturing and the work on the roof really stand out. I wish you had some WIP pics to see how you put this together.
I picked up some "spray on texture" but I'm not sure its the same thing you used. I bought some "Rust-Oleum American Accents Stone" spray finish. What are you using??
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-4/1166799/UGPPlant.jpg)
Keep in mind that not all of us can incorporate a special scene like Brent's or Daigo-Bah's- if we do, the landscape would look too overcrowded. Some of us should just focus on making a plain landscape box with a few shrubs or something.
Just a thought.
Thanks Brent, but Daigo-Bah's right too- I guess now we're just seeing what they could look like and when we really get started on final production we'll have to worry about overcrowding and clashing. :)Keep in mind that not all of us can incorporate a special scene like Brent's or Daigo-Bah's- if we do, the landscape would look too overcrowded. Some of us should just focus on making a plain landscape box with a few shrubs or something.
Just a thought.
DN,
I think that is a very good and very important point!
By the way, remember that Ryan's instruction on these is that they won't be used in the final dio, but are just tests for final look. So at this stage people can really combine any elements they want without worrying about clashing.
still confused
just tell me where to go from here
Awesome tree
any comments about my last message can i start athread on it to get member info?
Silly question, but is there a chance something perishable (like steak spice) would attract bugs?
Something to consider if you have a Big Lots around, they have X-Mas stuff out and there are some very nice wintery-decoed Pine Trees that would look good in this scale... Just food for thought. I think it was like $7 for 3 of varying size, but all 3 fairly large. Cheap and easy to use.
There is also a set of sidewalk/cobblestone walk for like $1 a piece or a set or something... Very cheap, very realistic.
A while ago we had discussed more in depth about the Dantooine feel to it. check out this link -
http://www.starwarsknights.com/images/Dantooine_1280.jpg
It's of a tree that is within a city wall.
Now, check out what is being made by Scheich -
(http://www.schleich-s.de/cms_schleich/cms_bilder/detail/30655.jpg)
But the darn tree won't be available until May. If it were available now, I'd buy a few. I'm pretty sure they are at least 10 inches tall, cost about $30.00 each (not cheap but I'd buy them).... Grrr.... anyone think they could make something like that on their own?
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**** my god damn internet. I just spent 45 minutes typing up a real nice reply to the last few posts and it is so sporatic I lost it. I clicked on post, it said 'cannot find page', and i clicked refresh a few times and got nothing. I clicked back a my whole post was gone. If I have time I'll repost it later tonight. >:(
... said 'cannot find page', and i clicked refresh a few times and got nothing. I clicked back a my whole post was gone. If I have time I'll repost it later tonight. >:(
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Oo'j Papolis
Any thoughts on the layout of the wall guys?
Any thoughts on the layout of the wall guys? Are you ok with it?
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Lets see a picture of the globe first :P
(http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/potf2cgyodadagobahfr.jpg)
The only downside I see is the darn hinge on it... is there a way to dremel/sand it off, and sculpt over the sanded down area? If it didn't look right, it could always be rotated on the base and put that section on the bottom. Also it says "Dagobah" on the front of it... so I think that a custom made pedestal would be necessary...
The other option is a sculpture of something, like a tribute to Palpatine... it would be really, really cool I think.
You know another idea would be to get a few POTF2 "salt shaker" Royal Guards, and paint them gray... really making them look like stone... I might do that, and see what you guys think. Sounds like a fun little side project.
Okay, here is what I had in mind with Chewie suggestion. Rought picture, but it gets the point across.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-4/1166799/Globe.jpg)
If you don't like the Royal Guard idea, the globe can be lowered. Maybe if someone wants to build a round or so base of steps to set it on, that would bring it out more.
I had another idea if the Royal Guard don't work is maybe add some Stormtrooper helmets (casts or whatever) to each of the poles, like a Empire trophy or something like that. If the fountain idea comes back to play maybe have the water come down out of the bottom of the planet? Using the railroad water making stuff, not sure how to use that stuff. If this sounds cool, maybe someone could make it using a clear straw or tube of some sort and coat it. Then it could be cut to fit the finish piece. Anyone else have any ideas? I'm going to find some time for the henge and gap tonight. Thanks
roron corobb
While I never liked the figure much, I think it's the perfect look for a statue because of how the robes are sculpted... I would like to try and experiment with a couple of them...
I could slap it together and shoot some stone texture paint on it giving it that Palpatine homage look, reminiscent of the statues being pulled down at the end of ROTJ. I have a full woodshop and could make a base like Roron was discussing out of MDF. Beat the idea around and give me some feedback today. I can knock this out tomorrow if given the go ahead. Let me know.
Its funny sarge, I had that same idea yesterday but couldnt find where i his my palpy. I'm glad you thought of it too.
Grreat minds!!!!
Ryan, i'll whip up a few buildings/markets for ya. I have been hesitant to say what figures i will contribute, but i got some ideas floating around in my head for some citizens.
Still mulling around what kind of base to put this on. The base of the model is an oval shape. Ryan, I think I can make something that is substantial for Palp's ego and should have a footprint of around 6in X 7in. My question on this is: how tall to make the base for the statue?
Next issue: Texture for the statue. In the pic I display what I have available to me. The most recognizable is the spray texture. My feelings on that are it might go on too thick and I will lose the detail on the face and such. Another option is the Patio Paints Texture. I can pick up a bottle at Michaels this week. My plan is to use a Xizor AMT model I have in my fodder bin to test both type and see how it looks. My plan is to have this done by Wednesday, 4 April.
Next question: What color do we want the statue to be, as in, grey, brick, black stone, etc?
Brent - For now if you could crank out a few more big trees, I really liked where those other ones were headed, that'd be fantastic. Hopefully around 8-10 for the whole dio. If you need the time to spend on buildings let me know and I can do a few trees. Other than that, if you would still be interested in making the open air cantina let me know. If it helps in your thought process I was thinking it should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 14" x 18". I'll give you some freedom to make that a little bigger or smaller as you see fit, just don't exceed 24" in either direction. Looking back I think we should be able to include your building sample into the diorama with some minor modifications. If you could just sand down some of the bigger adobe spots so it looks more like concrete and less like adobe and then repaint it grey, that'd be fantastic. If you don't want to do the cantina, you can make a standard building instead. And you can do both of course. I'd like a market stall as well if you have time.
Ok, here is the promised pic from me showing the AMT Palpatine model / statue. This pic gives you scale of the model.
(http://www.sarges-customs.com/Linked%20Pics/PalpUGP.jpg)
Trees - I'll commit to at least 6 for sure. I'm afraind I'll get burnt out on trees if I try to commit to making many more than that. Keep in mind the trees are probably going to be around 8" in diameter (around the canopy). I'm not sure how many you'll be able to fit onto the display.
Buildings - I'm planning on making at least 6 buildings that are roughly 6 x 8 inches. I expect these to be sort of low cost housing buildings. I think I should be able to make these relatively easily so I'd like to commit to making several. I should be able to make one larger building also. All of my buildings are going to use the textured/flocked spray paint. I'll post one finished before diving into all of them.
Cantina - I've got some plans for a cantina drawn up. The dimensions are consistent with what you suggested. I'll do everything I can to pull this off but its the one piece I can't 100% commit too. I think I can do it, if I don't get to elaborate. I'll be able to give you a firm commitment after this coming weekend (seeing the progress I make on the trees and buildings).
Market Stall - I've actually already started a Stall for another Diorama project. I'll see if I can modify it and use it. If not, this will probably be the last thing I make.
My Existing Building - I think I'm not going to include it. I've already got some plans/needs for it in my PN story (which hasn't been completely abandoned). I don't think its worth the efforts to go and get it sanded and repainted. I'd rather concentrate on newer, better buildings.
I love this idea.... I'm wondering, would it be worth considering having a group of imperial-type construction workers actually working to assemble the statue. Given that this is still early in the Emperor's reign, perhaps not all colonies have their statues completely in place??
Palp statue: I would prefer to have a complete statue as opposed to having it in the construction phase. My belief is that if our era has a rebellion growing then Palp has solidified his hold over the area. But, I am a flexible man, so let me know.
Yeah, and then I hashed this out with a couple of people and am being swayed to a statue in progress idea. So let it sit with me a few days and I'll post some pics with both looks. The more I think about this coming from a solid block of granite, the more the idea seems kewl, maybe with some enslaved Wookiees (which I will provide) pounding this out of a large stone.
How does this work? Do you just make a building? Does it need a base? What dimensions should it be? Is there a list of criteria somewhere?
I'm interested in doing something for this part while I have some free time.
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Standard Sized Buildings - These are going to make up a large portion of the city. Rather than type this several times since a lot of the dio team will be assigned one of these, I'll type it once here, and this is what I am referring too if I assign you a standard. These are going to be the bread and butter of the dio, so there is no need to get too fancy with them. They are going to be fairly simplistic structures that serve either as dwellings for poorer inhabitants, industrial type buildings, or storehouses, potentially even little shops. Size-wise these need to be between 6" x 8" and 8" x 10". They can be two stories if you'd like but one story is ideal. I'm not going to put too many constraints on the design; I'll leave that largely up to you guys, but don't go with anything too wild. Look through the concept thread to get some ideas, or check out Tatooine type housing and imagine it grey. We want the buildings to have almost a primitive look, but with some obviously advanced technology subtly mixed in, to really give it a SW world type of feel. As for materials use what ever you are comfortable with, as long as the end result looks like concrete/stone. You can use my spray texture method, the stone fleck paint, or something else. We want a light grayish color for the buildings possibly with darker smooth steel mixed in. You can make these buildings partially open or give them open windows/doors, but if you do you are responsible for complete internal works, or at least as much as you can see inside, and you still need to finish by the deadline. Remember to try and keep these simple. Check with me if you want to do anything a little different with them. And please send me final measurements and whatnot as well. Also try and keep me apprised on your progress, ideally with WIP pictures. So we can make sure we are all headed in the same direction with this. Feel free to also look at my sample on page 5 of this thread for an idea of the color/texture we are shooting for.
Small Market Stalls - As with the standard buildings these are something a lot of you will be assigned so I'll make a general post about it here too. These little guys are for the open-air market. There really are going to be very few restraints on these as they are meant to reflect the individualism of each of their vendors. That being said don't go wild and come up with something completely alien here either. These should be no bigger than 4.5" x 3", they can be smaller if you'd like. Most of these should be selling small little trinkets, fruits, vegetables, meats, etc. Kevin (Famine) is already taking care of a gun dealer so there isn't much need to have more than one in a small Imperial controlled space. The idea behind the market is that it is A) a place for residents to shop, much like Tatooines street vendors, B) it should be a great place to display a large crowd of customs, and C) With their size they should be relatively quick to build but will help take up a good amount of space. The vendor for you stall can either be inside or outside of the booth. Feel free to build them out of whatever material you'd like, while trying to take your vendor's personality into account. You don't need to make the vendor itself if you don't want but it would be great if you could. As with the Standard building be checking in with me on these to make sure we are on the same page.
Here's a little spectrum I made for what we want to shoot for as far as the base coat goes on the standard buildings:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/rphipps/UGP/WallSpectrum.jpg)
Really kind of shoot for a little left of center there somewhere, but a little lighter or darker should probably be ok.
If people think this works in the basic sense, I'll plan on making around 6 in this basic layout (some subtle changes from model to model).
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/cerius31/BuildingMock1b.jpg)
I like to use hot clue to bind foam together. I also use drywall compound to make it uniform espesially the dome. Once dry, reactivate it with wet hands play around and experiment (dry/wet dry/wet afew times) tap areas with one or two fingers to make it a pucked textured area. Use a hair dryer to speed up the process. Paint with latex or acrilic then dry brush with other shades.
Could we use a small power plant? I have something that might come together quickly that would fit the bill. Round and about 8" diameter / 6" tall. I'll probably put it together for myself anyway but...
I see Brent has a Cantina, so another question. Could we use a small power plant? I have something that might come together quickly that would fit the bill. Round and about 8" diameter / 6" tall. I'll probably put it together for myself anyway but...
I don't know if this would be overkill, but I have a ton of Palpatine holofigures (I'm sure everyone else does too, lol) that could be painted for small statues that could be peppered throughout the city. When you cut off his saber it doesn't look half bad.
Now, here's some accessories he's made recently that I would love if we could try and emulate in some capacity -
(http://www.owenscustoms.com/furniture5.JPG)
As for that.. Maybe if you want to paint up a few extras if you have time that'd be fine. Personally I think it will be overkill. But if you want to, make them so we will have them in case we change our minds on-site and decide to use them afterall.
Looking great so far Brent! Like Famine was saying cover up those seams a wee bit aznd they will be great. And just out of curiosity how big is that table there, 3' x 5' maybe?
As for the trees... Would you mind trying to make maybe two more? I was thinking that we can try have about two for each 2' x 2' section of terrain. If you don't want to that's fine too. Let me know either way.
Hey Guys I put toghether a building last night. I made it from Styrofoam. What should I suse to paint it?
Another Question? I have somthing that looks akin to some sort of planetary defense cannon. I'll post a pick tonight, but is this something I should even consider when we already have an Imp Turbo laser from Owen? Also the color of the buildings, should they all be gray or are tans and white options?
Here's a little spectrum I made for what we want to shoot for as far as the base coat goes on the standard buildings:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/rphipps/UGP/WallSpectrum.jpg)
Really kind of shoot for a little left of center there somewhere, but a little lighter or darker should probably be ok.
I was inspired by mentions of the hologram Sidious becoming a statue
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pfdea8594c3216fc3fb999c033ff0594d/ea066462.jpg)
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p5d1e31bc3fcaf5841ffd1d3c8114fd3b/ea0664db.jpg)
I might be over-ruled on this, but I would like to have that center filled with that rail road water. Maybe just a layer with some depth look to it. Or is that just me on this? Thanks
roron corobb
I can't figure out what to put in the hole where I was going to mount the cannon. Any ideas?
What about Market Stalls. It really looks like we are gaining some momentum!
I think news paper might be a little Low Tech for Star Wars. How about some hollow screens on some of the buldings. We could have them running wanted posters of some of our Rebel customs.
That stuff is cool. Would love to know parts used on that power building. And the array is cool. Never would have thought to use POTF2 R5 like that.
E> - I think that stuff looks great. Especially your buildings and the power plant. What size are those? This is really starting to come together!
I checked the table - its 3.5' x 5.0' - good eyes! I don't know if you are thinking the same thing I am but I'm actually worried that the diorama space will be too small :-\ I know that seems like its counter-intuitive to everything we've said recently. However, with 6-10 buildings, plus the large items from Chewie (including the junkyard), plus the market. Are we going to need more real-estate?
I think my buildings will be fine for the diorama, but like I've said all along - these are "rank and file" type buildings and not intended to be the "stars" if you know what I mean. We really need to have enough room to show off some of the extra special buildings. I know in your standard building description, you said mostly single story. However, I think we'll need some larger (i.e. taller) buildings to really comform with Glassman's original concepts.
As far as the trees go. Let me finish the 6 I've got started. I think I'll be able to do two more but I want to get these first ones completely finished up.
Things look like they're really shaping up guys.
As for tall buildings, I'll be sending two things that are two feet tall each (regular tower and the gun tower) so that will add a bit of height to it at least.
Also this probably isn't somethign that we have time for, but I think a sentry tower would really look cool in an Imperial deco -
Regarding the junk yard - Ryan, can you send me measurements again of what you'd like to see?
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Update time.
I painted up two of the trees and and started to add some foliage to one of them. I also spray painted one of my buildings. Here are the results:
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Close up of the tree:
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Question for the group - how much additional foliage do you think these trees should have? I wasn't thinking that these trees would be "super-lush" but more sporadiacally covered with foliage.
Here are some more shots for the building:
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Here's a close-up of the texture:
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I'm not 100% sold on this building. I used masking tape to cover all the parts of the foam. For the most part, its completly hidden. There are a few places (like the dome) where you can see it a bit.
Question for the group - What do you guys think? What additional painting should I do to make it more "realistic"?
Brent- looks great. Since fleckstone is so uniform, maybe you can brush paint some weathering details over it. The way your sample structure looked; kind of like stucco! I was inspired by mentions of the hologram Sidious becoming a statue and pudding cups becoming storage/generator boxes, that I put these few together for Judde:
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Brent, Sarge, these look fantastic.
Brent, i too like the "finer" texture better also. I think the Solid styrofoam buildings are gonna be amazing.
I started a building with foamcore. I am including a bit of a how-to so the construction is uniform.
What i am doing is taking a wall ( pre-cut to the size i want)
Then I am taking a NOTCH out of the corners. The notch should be as wide as the foamcore you are using. ( 1/4" in this case)
Here's my Buildong all weathered up. I can't figure out what to put in the hole where I was going to mount the cannon. Any ideas?
Got a bunch of weapons, Rocket Launchers, etc. that I could contribute if you guys like.
I think news paper might be a little Low Tech for Star Wars. How about some hollow screens on some of the buldings. We could have them running wanted posters of some of our Rebel customs.
Here's a few WIP I took this evening.
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That's my mini power plant. I plan on having clear plasitc windows and a clear plastic cover. I'm planning to have a bunch of electric currents on the inside via those force power dohickies every Jedi and Sith came with. Hoping to have acontrol array on the side there and other details.
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Funny you guys are talking about holoscreens because I put this together a couple weeks ago as a little holo projector. I figured a screen could come off the top. I have four of them primed and waiting for painting.
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I have four of these building put together. Still need to add doors and other details.
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Hope this stuff is acceptable.
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I want to do one eventually, so I bought three PotC sets on clearance and stripped them down. As you can probably tell now, it's three wheels stacked together. The top is some plastic cap from the packaging to a cosmetic product my wife had. I saved a bunch of them because I thought they'd be useful (there's another on my building.) And the other bit is a wall adapter for an old phone.
Really glad you like the R5! I was afraid it might look too much like him. I have been wanting to find a use for that figure since we finally got a good version. I need to figure out how I'm going to paint it. Hopefully it'll minimize the likeness if I do it right.
Ok, that should be doable. Think it would be ok to have a small vehicle that is in disrepair inside it?
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Anyway, here is my market stall: Empire collectibles! Get your 1:4 scale Imperial troops right here!
I'm going to send a vintage Cylon along with Twiki from Buck Rogers we can tuck in the junkyard as easter eggs.
I think news paper might be a little Low Tech for Star Wars. How about some hollow screens on some of the buldings. We could have them running wanted posters of some of our Rebel customs.
I think i have the holo billboards thing solved. I took those "Join the empire" artwork with the female troopers, and printed them on Transparency film.
I added some navi-screen linework from the general riken deluxe pack. I'll take pics tonight or tomorrow and post. But they look good,
And you can see them from either side.
Whoa, Roron that turned out GREAT!!!!
I really, really like that. If after the project is complete, and you don't want it back, I would love to add that to my collection... if we could work anything out please let me know. What a great addition this is man, the leg stilts are awesome, and the paint looks perfect just as it is.
I really don't mind the English wording. The old West End Games Imperial Recruitment adds had english words in them. Maybe English is the native tongue on or little world.
Maybe make an Incom or Blastech or cybot galactica poster, industrial automaton, things like that for a billboard
I fit it over the original artwork, then reduced the opacity of the linework by half so the image showed through more.
Roronn - I think I comments how much I like the Globe. However, if I didn't then here it is - I love it!
I'm nearly finished with 3 of the 6 buildings. I wish I would not have used the masking tape but I think they'll still be okay. I'm going to take some pictures of them outside in some natural light tomorrow.
Painted pics to come soon.
I'd sware Daigo-Bah's building looking like its made out of poured concrete.
Thanks so much for the comments guys! I think better pics will illuminate the paintjob a little better. Brent, I think you're right about greeblies and I'll add a few more to it, thanks! By the way, it's no where near as large as it might look; definitely not a 2-story, and figures right next to it might look disproportionate :P
Edit: told you it was small!
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p7d359dcdb7c69a0843bcbe2711f3b240/e9e1b1dc.jpg)
If someone else makes another large building that's great, but I know these things take time. One thing to consider might be a modular level building, that might be easier for someone to assemble.
BrentS... you are right about bigger buildings. I am hoping to get 1 or 2 done. but we need a few more.
Remember we had a cantina, some sort of city hall and a govener building. Those wont be 1 story, adobe type buildings.( well maby the cantin, but it wont be small)
The height of the statue to me is fantastic. I know not all the buildings we have are that tall, but an imposing statue of Palpatine, to me is a good thing. Indicating the Imperial domination and shows who is boss.
On the junkyard, I have a lot of painting to do on it. For the seams, I haven't figured out just yet how I'll go about it. I've painted foamcore before with seams showing, just painting them a different shade of gray - it 'might" look ok like that but I'm going to see what I can do about it. I wasn't overly concerned with it since this is probably the nastiest part of the city and least kept. I'll probably paint the walls gray, with some texture added, and add some little greeblies to the wall, perhaps some electronic boards, that sort of thing. And pretty heavily weathered since it's a junk yard... I wasn't planning on including the black base board for it, I don't think it would look right with it. Now, if I have time I **could** experiment with something other than foam core on this, but I've either finishing it this way or have to bow out. I have way too much going on outside of the project to stay at the level I have been.
For additional stuff, I really think we need to have someone look into the following:
- creating benches (probably anywhere from 5-10 of them)
- small potted planets or something (anywhere from 10-20 of them)
- public drinking fountains
Something maybe to consider on a building or two...
One, perhaps a painted-on mural/propoganda painting... A picture of Palpatine, maybe with it fading some from weather... Something akin to what is seen in countries from Hitler's Germany to Iraq's Sadam Hussein... Having imagery of the dictator is a popular way the dictator keeps his presence in the minds of his people, but usually it's done with a tone of "Hey look at me, I'm a cool guy" to it, so nothing sinister/evil looking.
Also... A little graffitti might look cool on a building or two. Nothing overdone, but it's a subtle kind of thing people might notice when looking over a scene. Especially if there's a "lower class" portion of the city you guys are doing?
Heeby Jeebies! Those buildings rock!
Well, three 30 foot trees went down around my house this past weekend and ate up a lot of my time. Roron and I are working behind the scenes to get the globe / fountain complete. I should have final pics of the base posted this time tomorrow night. I think you guys are gonna love the overall look. It is kicking ass!
And now for a Sarge update. I finished the base of the Palp statue and will start the 'rock texture' on Wednesday. Here's a little teaser for ya.
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Sarge - FANTASTIC. I love the base for it.
I'll try and get working back on this thing soon -
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Here's an early WIP of the Junk Yard -
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After that, including the stuff I already sent Phruby, I think I'm done on contributions?
Sarge - that Emperor Statue looks great. You'd really made it look like its coming out of the stone. However, to be completely honest, I think it may be too big (tall). Based ont the figure scale, it looks like it must be almost 16-18" tall. That is 2.5 - 3x taller than the base of the buildings that we've already seen made. The outer wall is the 8" tall so it is at least twice as tall as that. I'm all for including it, as long as it doesn't look too out of place. Anyone else have any thoughts?
Now something for the group - As this is starting to come together. I think there are a few things that will need to be addressed.
1 - City-wide Greebles. We really need to think about addiing more city type greebles. Things like benches, trash cans, planters, etc. Daigo-bah has made a few and Glassman has the great holo-projectors but we'll really need more things to give the city some life.
2 - Taller buildings. I'm curious, does anyone else thing we need a couple taller, more "regal" looking buildings? Glassman's original concept buildings showed several very tall elegant buildings. We've got a great number of smaller, industrial type buildings. I think those are perfectly fine but it sort of goes back to my point on the Emperor statue. If this was a mostly industrial type city. Do we think the emperor would spend the "money" to erect and HUGE statue in a very "low class" area? Thoughts?
For additional stuff, I really think we need to have someone look into the following:
- creating benches (probably anywhere from 5-10 of them)
- small potted planets or something (anywhere from 10-20 of them)
- public drinking fountains
Thanks Daigo-Bah... and guess what... last night I took my first step into a larger world. I went to a hobby shop and purchased some styrene. Messed around with it until about 3:00am. I am trying to see if I can make the wall out of styrene, but think I might run into some issues with the curved section since I'm so new with styrene. But I did get the back wall pretty much constructed and glued together and this morning it looked kind of cool! But really this is a very time consuming process and my knowledge and tools for this are limited, so in the end I might have to stick with the foamcore.
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It's funny because I used that same Naboo weapon piece or whatever it is on my building generator box!
I wanted to say that I too think a lot of great things are coming together by seeing your work on the project posted... The buildings look outstanding, and if I may say so, I think the stone-flecked paint is amazing looking and gives the buildings all that perfect "Star Warsy" feel.
The Emperor statue is probably one of my favorite pices I've seen so far. That's such a great idea... The shops and stalls are all looking great too, as are the figures I think. Short of denizen filler needing to be a bit more substantial I think everything is going great for you guys it seems. The streets should be pretty busy I think... Given what we saw on Tatooine, a small outpost, you guys hsould have some busy streets I think is all...
Things are looking great though. Looks like you guys managed to stay on the same page in terms of looks/feel too, very important I think. Kudos to you all.
BTW Brent's trees... Friggin' marvelous looking. :) A+ work there man. Too bad you guys couldn't do a whole forest of them, haha.
Thanks guys, I'm glad most everyone seems to like the junk yard. It was a fun piece to do but I think it will surely be overshadowed by a lot of other things in the project. It's not quite Owen D. material in my view but for my first experience with styrene, I'm excited about it.
Phruby - How is the wall coming along? Any questions about it?
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Thanks and I appreciate the responce and thanks for the offering but I would rather be prepapared with the fixture aspect ahead of time so I'm looking for cheap ideas. If worst come to worst I will go to the aquarium store and get the solid tubing.
Just a reminder guys I need exact measurements of all your buildings....
Not a problem Brent. It shouldn't be a problem since I'll be adding them to the terrain. I'll bring some thing wooden dowels or even toothpicks that can be used to help support the trees from the inside. Are you going to want them back or can I use adhesive on the bottoms?
I was thinking more along the lines of Hob-e-Tac. It should be stronger than the tape, and shouldn't have any problems holding up the trees. And if it leaks out at all it is clear, and will adhere the ground cover I'm going to put by the base of the trees to help blend them in.
Either one would work I'd think. I hate the damn strings on hot glue so I often avoid it. Hob-e-Tac isn't supposed to completely dry, it is supposed to remain tacky. It should work if I us it along with some other internal supports. I'll figure something out though, it shouldn't be a problem.
Welcome to Parenthood you guys. Remember it just gets more expensive from here. ;)
But it's all worth it. :D
Great looking stuff Danielb!
(http://chewie34.250free.com/043007fruit2.jpg)
(http://chewie34.250free.com/043007fruit3.jpg)
The fruit stand area really adds a lot of life and realism to it. It's nice seeing a building that has an everyday citizen function to it. Very well done, thanks for the contribution!
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not a problem. The main building is just a couple passes of two different krylon spray paints. Krylon dry's fast so it'd probably be best to go over it with a light gray spray of krylon. the metal trim stuff is mostly just wet and dry brushing over a silver spray base. So taping it would probably be a bad idea.
Of course if someone wants to hand paint it in gray that'd really make some of the adobe pop up.
Any way do what you need to do to make it fit. I'm fairly easy going.
Can't wait to till C4 pics are up.
here is a couple pics of my other market stall that i put together. it far more simple that the first, but i actually like it better. on the canopy i was running a lighter around it to give it that singed dirty look and well, it lit up a bit. there a good sized scorch mark and about a quater sized hole on it now, but it still looks decent. thie one is a rare stone and antiqueties merchant. id love to hear what you guys think. know what you guys think.
I really like the Fruit Market, It's ashame we did not very the building colors more to better reflect the feel of a true city or town.
The antique dealer Stall is great and the merchant running the shop has a lot of character. Great work on both.
Fritzkrieg
I.E. bright pink buildings next to lime green buildings
QuoteI.E. bright pink buildings next to lime green buildings
You need to drive through a few of our neiborhoods down here in South FL. That kind of stuff is all over down here. The guy down at the end of my street painted his house Bannana Yellow.
You need to drive through a few of our neiborhoods down here in South FL. That kind of stuff is all over down here. The guy down at the end of my street painted his house Bannana Yellow.
elmeaux - fantastic work. Really a creative design with the curves and whatnot. Very good addition, thank you!
Ryan - as for extending the city - would this mean the wall needs to be extended further?
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I think we need to talk to Phruby about the wall - he was going to try and make very specific angles on it... I'm all for maximizing the space, whatever you guys come up with is up to you!
I think we need to talk to Phruby about the wall - he was going to try and make very specific angles on it... I'm all for maximizing the space, whatever you guys come up with is up to you!
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Do you need some greeblies to add to it? I'm not sure what you are planning on adding, but with my experience with the junkyard wall, things like commtech chips worked really well.
I intend to plaster over both the foam core and the wood with some texture and paint them the same color. I think that way they will look very simular. I just went with the foam so I would be able to handle the cuts easier.
I'll pick up some black gloss metalic. The only can I have is a small can made for plastic.
Ryan, got any work in progress pictures? It would be helpful to see where to place little accessories on the wall if I saw where this thing will be placed.
I do have shiney metalic black and that would look cool with the plastic girders on the outside looking like supports.
(again I'd suggest Krylon but the Rustoleum might work too).
Are you still going with a water fall?
As requested here are some final WIPs of the terrain, note that I've since added some long grass. I just need to pour the water, and attach the waterfall then this should be ready mail out (finally.)
Any comments about my request on rotating the center rock of the cliffs?
I'm planning on adding some graffitte to the outside of the wall and having a stormtrooper standing there with a paint brush painting it over.