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Title: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on June 3, 2010, 11:52 PM
Ruiner might quit whining now. 

League ID: 15354
Password: berry

Settings same as last year.

Draft date currently set at 8:30 P.M., Wednesday, September 8th.  Until Rob asks us to move it. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on June 4, 2010, 10:31 AM
Ruiner might quit whining now.  

League ID: 15354
Password: berry

Settings same as last year.

Draft date currently set at 8:30 P.M., Wednesday, September 8th.  Until Rob asks us to move it.  

That's (no joke) my. 11 year anniversary.  I'll check with the little lady to see if it will bother her (it probably won't).

What I know doesn't work for me, is earlier.  Like 3 to 4 days earlier... there's some sort of trip being planned for the holiday weekend... some sort of 30th birthday thing that I don't know details of.  So if someone else needs it moved, please don't' move it to that weekend.  :)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on June 4, 2010, 11:21 AM
 :D

Perfect.  Somehow I manage to find a date to irritate you each year (or is it each draft?).  An alternate date would be a week earlier, as this date is the day before the season starts.  A week earlier wouldn't bother me at all but I know some folks like to be as close to the season's start as possible. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on June 4, 2010, 12:18 PM
:D

Perfect.  Somehow I manage to find a date to irritate you each year (or is it each draft?).  An alternate date would be a week earlier, as this date is the day before the season starts.  A week earlier wouldn't bother me at all but I know some folks like to be as close to the season's start as possible. 

I hope it can be left alone... upon further review there's a chance that I'll be moving on September 1st.  :P

We're trying to get out of our lease a month early to move August 1st.  Hopefully we can do that, or the date stays put.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on June 4, 2010, 12:21 PM
You really need to temper your wanderlust and social activities, they're seriously screwing with the nerdverse.   ;)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on June 6, 2010, 10:10 PM
I got this.

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on June 6, 2010, 11:12 PM
You really need to temper your wanderlust and social activities, they're seriously screwing with the nerdverse.   ;)

Ultimately the nerdverse wins out... see: my lackluster, auto-drafted baseball team (two years running).
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on August 3, 2010, 03:21 PM
We still shooting for 12 teams this year? 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on August 3, 2010, 08:43 PM
We still shooting for 12 teams this year? 

Yup.  Jim/chuckles should be joining but he's a slacker.  I emailed him a reminder today. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 3, 2010, 11:29 PM
I can grab a couple fringe JDers to join if need be.  Let's see how this plays out.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on August 9, 2010, 11:20 PM
Only one space left. 

Also put up links in other thread for survivor and pick 'em pools if you're interested.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on August 13, 2010, 12:52 AM
Looks like I got the last spot. I'm still pretty new to FF, so it will be a pleasure to have you guys kick my ass week after week. :)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on August 13, 2010, 09:34 AM
Looks like I got the last spot. I'm still pretty new to FF, so it will be a pleasure to have you guys kick my ass week after week. :)

Welcome aboard Diddly!  Quick tip - make sure you grab kickers and defenses in the first few rounds.   ;)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on August 26, 2010, 11:40 AM
Draft rapidly approaching.  Take the time to check out the scoring again one more time before we draft because I won't change it after the draft has occurred. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on August 27, 2010, 11:40 AM
Consider adding return yards?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on August 27, 2010, 11:50 AM
I'm open to it but as commish abstain from voting (creates an odd number of votes).  So we need five more yea's to add it.  Also need to agree on a scoring setting if it goes forward....

0.5 per 10 yards?  Or less?

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on August 27, 2010, 12:02 PM
Do return yards go under defenses or individual players?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on August 27, 2010, 12:22 PM
Do return yards go under defenses or individual players?

It appears they go to individual players from what I can gather.  Looking here (http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/sports/fantasysports/football/rules/frules-09.html;_ylt=AsDOgh7cr627apOu.AjwslJe73hG) it sort of appears that returns are NOT tied to the Team Defense section.  It's sort of a backwards assumption because it isn't clearly stated. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on August 27, 2010, 01:25 PM
I think I'm against it then unless we can added a KR spot in the starting line ups... I don't think there are enough WR / KR guys out there.

I'd be in favor of some small amount of scoring for carries and receptions.  Maybe like 0.1 per?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on August 27, 2010, 01:49 PM
I think I'm against it then unless we can added a KR spot in the starting line ups... I don't think there are enough WR / KR guys out there.

I'd be in favor of some small amount of scoring for carries and receptions.  Maybe like 0.1 per?

Now a KR spot is something I'm not really in favor of, given those guys are WR almost always anyway.

As for the second point, PPR (points per reception) is pretty common but I haven't run across points per carry.  Personally I'd be ok with the first one because there's relatively few receptions that go for zero yards or a loss as compared to a carry.  But PPR does change it up a bit for both WR and RB. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on August 27, 2010, 03:29 PM
Leagues that I've been in that do those balance it out in a way that makes PPR and PPC about even.  To keep the numbers simple, say that a good RB averages 20 carries and a good WR averages 10 catches, then they make the points something like 0.5 for a catch and 0.25 for a carry.

I've been in leagues that did it evenly... 1.0 per catch or rush, and it makes RB's way more valuable.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on August 30, 2010, 02:48 PM
Against it
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 30, 2010, 03:41 PM
I'm for last year's stats.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on August 30, 2010, 11:25 PM
Two against.  Rob sort of for.  Ruiner suggested.

Would like to resolve by the weekend in case people need/want to prep.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2010, 11:26 PM
Two against.  Rob sort of for.  Ruiner suggested.

Would like to resolve by the weekend in case people need/want to prep.

Just to clarify, I'm for PPR, I'm not for return yards.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 2, 2010, 11:59 PM
Leagues that I've been in that do those balance it out in a way that makes PPR and PPC about even.  To keep the numbers simple, say that a good RB averages 20 carries and a good WR averages 10 catches, then they make the points something like 0.5 for a catch and 0.25 for a carry.

I'm all for last year's scoring with no changes for PPR, PPC, or Return Yards.  The PPR idea is interesting, but I tihnk it makes receiving backs way too valuable and there aren't many of them.  In the example above, I think an average RB can get 20 carries a game, but it's rare to find a WR that is catching 10 passes per week.  Get a guy like Ray Rice in there with rushing and receiving stats and his points per week could explode. 

Anyone remember when we find out the draft order?  Is it 45 min prior to the draft?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 3, 2010, 12:51 AM
In the example above, I think an average RB can get 20 carries a game, but it's rare to find a WR that is catching 10 passes per week.  Get a guy like Ray Rice in there with rushing and receiving stats and his points per week could explode. 

It was just a rounded off example to show how you balance it out.  If a RB averages 20 and a WR averages 6, then you make it more like 1.0 to 0.3 instead of 1.0 to 0.5.

If you guys aren't interested, it's no big deal - but it's not a question of backs suddenly being worth more than receivers.  It's just a new wrinkle is all.  As for pass catching backs, yes they'd be more valuable - but that would just change your draft strategy, it wouldn't make it some sudden advantage for one person.  A guy who catches passes as well maybe just moves up into that top tier of backs instead of being relegated to second tier.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on September 3, 2010, 09:51 AM
Agreed, just changes strategy for the draft which is why I suggested today as a deadline to make changes so guys could update their lists if need be. 

Unless there's a surge of support for a change during the day today, I'll just leave the scoring as it is from last year. 

Draft usually opens around 30 minutes before we begin and the draft order is set at that time.  I don't recall getting into any drafts 45 minutes early but I suppose it's not impossible. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 3, 2010, 03:02 PM
If you guys aren't interested, it's no big deal - but it's not a question of backs suddenly being worth more than receivers.  It's just a new wrinkle is all.  As for pass catching backs, yes they'd be more valuable - but that would just change your draft strategy, it wouldn't make it some sudden advantage for one person.  A guy who catches passes as well maybe just moves up into that top tier of backs instead of being relegated to second tier.

I agree.  I'd be more in favor of this if I thought it would drive more mediocre guys into a larger pool of top performers.  I just don't like creating a handful of guys that drive considerably more points than anyone else and I think that would be the outcome.  The scoring is pretty even the way it currently stands.

Thanks for the timing Brent - I thought it was 45 min for some reason, but 30 min to plan out my draft strategy should be sufficient.  I'm sure that I can come up with some really lousy choices in that amount of time.   ;)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on September 4, 2010, 02:32 PM
Ffffuuuuuuu

Just found out I have a club meeting on Wednesday night a little before draft time. Anybody know if Yahoo does computerized picks, or if they allow drafting via cell phone? If not I can probably find someone who can make my picks for me.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on September 4, 2010, 03:23 PM
Yup, autodraft is there in case of emergency.  You can also choose to rank your players differently than they have but autodraft will fill your starting roster fully before filling any spots on your bench.

If you want to test your phone to see if it works, just do one of the mock drafts they have going before then.  If it works, you should be golden.  Even if it works then and you get screwed and can't get in that night Yahoo will just autodraft.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on September 4, 2010, 05:07 PM
Ok, great. I'll try my phone sometime this weekend, but I had trouble with the Fantasy Survival working last year, so I'm not expecting it to work. I'm more concerned about being "that guy" at the moment since I don't want to ruin the draft for anyone by not being there.

Honestly it might be better if the computer picks for me. :P
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on September 5, 2010, 03:22 PM
I'm pretty sure that if you're not live at the draft, your first pick is slow (i.e. takes the whole 1:30) but then the yahoo system automatically sets it to draft after 10 seconds the next highest ranked player your team needs.  So as long as you don't show up and log in, you really won't be "that guy".  That only happens when you log in and make an actual pick then walk away while logged in without clicking 'autodraft'.  You see a lot of that in mock drafts where lots of guys show up, make their first five picks then seemingly go away without changing settings.  Quite annoying. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on September 8, 2010, 05:10 PM
Guys,
Don't know how this happened, but the draft time is set for 6:30 P.M. Central Time.  I had it set for 8:30 P.M. and somehow it got moved.  I didn't even notice until ruiner sent me a message so I hope like hell everyone sees that.  I think I'm out of luck on this one as I have to take the kid to something. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 8, 2010, 05:12 PM
I saw that this morning and assumed that I'd ****** up and forgotten.... but the more I thought about it the more I thought it must have changed.  I don't even usually get off work until 6:30 and would have said something.  I'm arranging to go home a little early today.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on September 8, 2010, 05:24 PM
I thought it was 8:30 too and now I can't be there...I saw that last night.  I set my rankings and shake my fist at Yahoo :-\
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 8, 2010, 05:27 PM
Is it too late to move it?

Should we move it to Thurs. nite?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on September 8, 2010, 05:33 PM
Can't first game is tomorrow night
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 8, 2010, 05:47 PM
We can't move it back a couple hours? 

I'm sure 8:30 CST would work better for a lot of us.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 8, 2010, 05:54 PM
It's incredibly unlikely that there's a draft time available for later tonight.

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on September 8, 2010, 06:21 PM
We can't move it back a couple hours? 

I'm sure 8:30 CST would work better for a lot of us.

Unfortunately we cannot move it.  First thing I checked when I got your email.  You apparently cannot change the draft time on the same day of the draft.   :-\  It's not a matter of not wanting to change it to 8:30, I'd do that in a second but it simply isn't an option in the yahoo system.  I could move it to tomorrow but that might even be worse for some folks and as Scott said the first game is tomorrow.

I'm not sure how this happened.  It's a conflict for me as well, though I might be able to juggle it.  I assure you I didn't do this on purpose and I haven't been into commissioner tools since the day I set it and it was correct.  Ultimately it's my fault and I'll apologize to guys who get screwed over because of it.  I'm not looking forward to seeing this page after 8:30 tonight.   :-[
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on September 8, 2010, 09:45 PM
Well, I am incredibly happy with my starters...probably would have drafted another RB because I am really thin there behind the three starters (as in nobody).

We'll see if that translates to success :P
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on September 8, 2010, 10:04 PM
It was amazing to see how the difference in our setup versus the yahoo mock setup changed how running backs got really thin, really fast.  I'm sort of pleased with mine and the only dang! moment was Rob drafting Bradshaw who was going to be my next pick.  We'll see if bumping up Jamaal Charles helps but in most yahoo mocks I was able to get both. 

I'm either laughing or screwed with my bench WR. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 8, 2010, 10:39 PM
I'm sort of pleased with mine and the only dang! moment was Rob drafting Bradshaw who was going to be my next pick.  We'll see if bumping up Jamaal Charles helps but in most yahoo mocks I was able to get both. 

You did that to me with Jabar Gaffney.  I've been picking him up late in all my leagues hoping for big things and was ready to draft him about a round late than you did.  Apparently the word is out that he could be big this year.

As for my team, I have never gone QB with my first pick except for 6 years ago when I drafted Manning (the year that he threw 50 TD's) and I didn't like the RB options that were available with my second pick.  So, short story long, I'm thin at RB and tried to compensate by drafting extras in the middle rounds.  I've got plenty of guys who should be good, but none who are guaranteed to be great.  I'm in a similar spot with WR's.... a few who could be solid, but can Driver do it again?  Maybe with Rodgers throwing to him.

Overall, I'm pretty happy though.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 8, 2010, 11:14 PM


You did that to me with Jabar Gaffney.  I've been picking him up late in all my leagues hoping for big things and was ready to draft him about a round late than you did.  Apparently the word is out that he could be big this year.


Don't worry, Gaffney will not be big this year.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 8, 2010, 11:28 PM
Well, I am incredibly happy with my starters...probably would have drafted another RB because I am really thin there behind the three starters (as in nobody).

We'll see if that translates to success :P

I agree, your squad is pretty solid.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2010, 12:10 AM
We'll see, it's far from a sure thing but he finished last season nicely and has the sort of potential that we're all trying to squeeze out of the later rounds.  He had 7 for 69 and 2 TD's in week 16, and 14 for 213 yards in week 17.  Maybe he can't, but if he can carry that over at all, he's a #1.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2010, 12:16 AM
Well, I am incredibly happy with my starters...probably would have drafted another RB because I am really thin there behind the three starters (as in nobody).

We'll see if that translates to success :P

I agree, your squad is pretty solid.

Agreed.  The only thing on there I don't quite trust is Hines Ward because of their QB situation... and even when Rothlisberger gets back, how effective will he be at first?  Who knows, but the value was there considering how late you were able to draft him.  But what the hell do I know anyway...

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on September 9, 2010, 12:30 AM
Pretty happy with my squad, specifically at WR. Decided to take a chance with CJ Spiller since he was just named the starter, and he was pretty good in college. We'll see how that goes.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 9, 2010, 06:34 AM
We'll see, it's far from a sure thing but he finished last season nicely and has the sort of potential that we're all trying to squeeze out of the later rounds.  He had 7 for 69 and 2 TD's in week 16, and 14 for 213 yards in week 17.  Maybe he can't, but if he can carry that over at all, he's a #1.

Dude he's 30 years old and he's never had more than 700 yards or 5 TDs.

He's just a scrub who caught a few red zone targets in the preseason.

At any rate, it's not like you wasted a real pick on him.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2010, 09:23 AM
Dude he's 30 years old and he's never had more than 700 yards or 5 TDs.

He's just a scrub who caught a few red zone targets in the preseason.

At any rate, it's not like you wasted a real pick on him.

I'm not so sure.  He was money at Florida, then went to a bad Texans team, then was behind everyone on a good Patriots team.  And not that it's a huge difference, but he won't be 30 for a few more months.

I'm not saying that it's anything close to a given, just that he's one of those guys that everyone has pegged as a potential sleeper this year.

And I didn't waste any pick on him in this league, Brent did.   :)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on September 9, 2010, 10:01 AM
I like wasting my picks.   ;D  Gives me a reason to make 50 player changes in a year.  I got a bit zinged on Austin Collie as well, I'd snagged him in a bunch of mocks as well.  Oh well.  Go high on potential and then hope for the best. 

At least this year I don't have to try and guess whether Palmer or Cutler will be the better choice to start.  Barring injury it's Peyton every week except the bye, no questions asked.  (and yeah, I expect Palmer and Cutler will be better this year than last; I'm usually a year out on some guys)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Matt Carroll on September 9, 2010, 11:02 AM
All told, I'm OK with my team. I had to reach a bit to get Mathews and waited longer for WR's - hopefully someone comes out of that group to be a regular performer.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 11, 2010, 12:18 AM
I'm not so sure about my team yet - we'll see how they do the next few weeks.  I was drafting in another league at the same time, so that limited my attention on my own team and I had no idea who everyone else had selected.  My starters are pretty sold with three RBs that don't have a time share I suppose and both my WRs are beasts that have scored double-digits in past years.  If V. Davis and E. Manning can come close to last year's stats I should be in good shape. 

I'm off to a crap start already this week though with just 1pt from the Vikes defense and 1pt from Garrett "I Don't Do Field Goals" Hartley.  ::) Nice to see Henderson and his 8.53 points on my bench as well.  Ugh.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 11, 2010, 01:00 AM
I'm not so sure about my team yet - we'll see how they do the next few weeks.  I was drafting in another league at the same time, so that limited my attention on my own team and I had no idea who everyone else had selected.  My starters are pretty sold with three RBs that don't have a time share I suppose and both my WRs are beasts that have scored double-digits in past years.  If V. Davis and E. Manning can come close to last year's stats I should be in good shape. 

I'm off to a crap start already this week though with just 1pt from the Vikes defense and 1pt from Garrett "I Don't Do Field Goals" Hartley.  ::) Nice to see Henderson and his 8.53 points on my bench as well.  Ugh.

I think your team looks really good on paper - one of the top 2 or 3.  T.O. and Vernon Davis were both guys I was trying to draft right when you took them.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on September 12, 2010, 03:19 PM
Yikes, my RBs are awful. :-\
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 13, 2010, 04:25 PM
Yikes...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/Nemesis_01.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/Nemesis_04.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/Nemesis_05.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/Nemesis_06.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/Nemesis_07.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/Nemesis_08.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/Nemesis_09.jpg)

Congrats on '06 though.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 13, 2010, 09:05 PM
Hey Rob I'll congratulate you on election night for '08, beotch.  We'll see how you and your whiny little miserable liberal friends like that.

Also why don't you take the same time posting our history in basketball and baseball?  Because I usually mop the floor with you right?

Here's a nice summary for you:

Y! Rob - Overall Performance: 56% (47 eligible teams)
Y! Me  - Overall Performance :80% (38 eligible teams)

If I had no life like you I'd spend a bunch of time doing screenshots to illustrate this, but you can find it all in the manager profile at your leisure, which you apparently have a lot of.

Enjoy!  Especially on November 2nd.  I know I will.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 13, 2010, 09:28 PM
Hey Rob I'll congratulate you on election night for '08, beotch.  We'll see how you and your whiny little miserable liberal friends like that.

Also why don't you take the same time posting our history in basketball and baseball?  Because I usually mop the floor with you right?

Here's a nice summary for you:

Y! Rob - Overall Performance: 56% (47 eligible teams)
Y! Me  - Overall Performance :80% (38 eligible teams)

If I had no life like you I'd spend a bunch of time doing screenshots to illustrate this, but you can find it all in the manager profile at your leisure, which you apparently have a lot of.

Enjoy!  Especially on November 2nd.  I know I will.

Just noticed that I had a 9-2 record against you in the only one of these games that I've ever given a real crap about.  And believe me, I didn't spend but 5 minutes putting the visuals together.

It's funny though how the guy who's SOOOOO good at fantasy sports that he has 28 trophies in 41 leagues is saying that I've got no life.

Nice one.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Ryan on September 14, 2010, 04:12 AM
This is the second year in a row I've had to miss the draft and have the computer draft for me. And this is also the second year in a row in which I got a high draft seed. And just like I did last year I wound up with two, maybe three players that I would have picked on me team. Is it too early to throw in the towel on the season?  ::)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on September 14, 2010, 10:00 AM
Looking at your roster briefly, yeah, it's way too early to throw in the towel.  Autodraft hoses you mostly in two ways - one, you end up going D/kicker way too early and two, you end up with some guys others wouldn't pick up for whatever reason.  I guess Beanie Wells sort of fits the latter there.  But I'd be pretty darn pleased with your starting WR/RB/QB.  Marshall and Steve Smith at WR, AP and Grant at RB (injuries happen, that's just ****** luck) and yeah, Favre will need a couple of games to get going.  I'll admit though it does look like your team has the injury bug already :-\  But if you want to trade Marshall or Smith for Gaffney, I'm up for it  ;)

Usual start to the season for me.  Top five in points scored but I take a loss.  All too familiar. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 14, 2010, 12:26 PM
This is the second year in a row I've had to miss the draft and have the computer draft for me. And this is also the second year in a row in which I got a high draft seed. And just like I did last year I wound up with two, maybe three players that I would have picked on me team. Is it too early to throw in the towel on the season?  ::)

That's been my situation in Baseball two years running... two auto-drafts, two mediocre teams.  It's not worth giving up, but it's an uphill climb.

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 14, 2010, 02:56 PM
Yikes... just heard Grant is out 10-12 weeks, maybe the season.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Matt Carroll on September 14, 2010, 03:05 PM
Yikes... just heard Grant is out 10-12 weeks, maybe the season.

Yeah, Jay Glazer over at Fox Sports is reporting he'll go on IR.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 14, 2010, 03:40 PM
I've suddenly got more starting caliber RB's than I know what to do with.  If anyone needs one, I'd be interested in dealing for a solid WR.

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 15, 2010, 03:17 PM
I'd like to thank Toyota... my agent... my family, and all the players who made this award possible. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/Award.png)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 15, 2010, 04:04 PM
You should also thank Dressel for drafting such a ****** team. 

Who drafts Barber AND Jones?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on September 15, 2010, 05:32 PM
Doesn't he have like 5 Cowboy starters?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 15, 2010, 05:50 PM
Yeah, I think so.

And they're all going to suck this year.

Look what they did at Washington!?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 15, 2010, 06:00 PM
Doesn't he have like 5 Cowboy starters?

Scott - the Cowboys are supposed to have one of the best offenses this year, and have for the last 3 years straight.

You should also thank Dressel for drafting such a ****** team.  

Who drafts Barber AND Jones?

Ruiner - Win something, then talk.  Not the other way around.  You've never accomplished anything here and have no clue what you're talking about.  Either Marion Barber or Felix Jones should have a huge day almost every week.  I think that's a reasonable expectation, regardless of what happened during a single game in Week 1.  The Cowboys aren't going to score 7 points every week.  Try 30-35 on for size.  That'll be the norm, not what happened last Sunday.  I'm sure their backfield will have nothing to do with those touchdowns.
 
I know I drafted such a "******" team.  As you know Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Tony Romo and Jason Witten are all going to perform like they did in week 1 every single week.  They have no history of being good and none of them are in their prime.

Rob - you're really an ass.  Do me a favor and don't ever message me about anything ever again.  
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 15, 2010, 06:19 PM
I know I drafted such a "******" team.  As you know Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Tony Romo and Jason Witten are all going to perform like they did in week 1 every single week.  They have no history of being good and none of them are in their prime.

Of those guys, Andre Johnson is the only one I'd have drafted.  Romo's alright for where you picked him.  Witten had 2 TD's last year and so far I haven't seen anything to indicate that it will change.  I think Fitzgerald is due for a drop in production without Kurt Warner throwing to him or Anquan Boldin drawing attention on the other side of the field.  The Cowboys are having real problems scoring points still, and if they don't at least get to the NFCC, heads are going to roll in Dallas.

Rob - you're really an ass.  Do me a favor and don't ever message me about anything ever again.  

Sheesh... I'm starting to think you take fantasy sports way to seriously.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 15, 2010, 06:51 PM
Okay, okay.  Sorry, your graphics and screen grabs the last few days really leaned on a raw nerve.  I probably did take it too seriously, but it felt like you took a 75 yard shot down the field at the end zone with 5 seconds left on the clock and up by 7 TD's.   I've got a 30 point lead on you over in the other league and didn't utter a syllable about it.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 15, 2010, 06:56 PM
I've got a 30 point lead on you over in the other league and didn't utter a syllable about it.

Well yeah, I missed the draft and got a bunch of guys I wasn't interested in.  Moreneau and Utley missed massive amounts of time and my pitching has been horrible all year.  That team is a lost cause and has been for months.

Plus, football is sort of my thing... baseball... not so much.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 15, 2010, 10:36 PM
I'm just keeping it real, bro.  Your team last year was pretty bad too.  Just sayin' - the good ol' days may be just that.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 16, 2010, 06:04 AM
I'm just keeping it real, bro.  Your team last year was pretty bad too.  Just sayin' - the good ol' days may be just that.

Okay Travis, so this Sunday if Marion Barber and Felix Jones combine for 3 TDs, I'll meet you back here.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 16, 2010, 09:14 AM
Against the Bears - it wouldn't surprise me. 

Win this week's matchup, and we'll talk.  I just think you have too many players from one team.  My opinion.

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 16, 2010, 09:22 AM
I think DR's team is great.  Thank goodness someone fielded a team that scored less points than mine!
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 16, 2010, 01:06 PM
Against the Bears - it wouldn't surprise me. 

Win this week's matchup, and we'll talk.  I just think you have too many players from one team.  My opinion.


Well, your opinion doesn't mean ****, cuz you never won ****.

If I want to accomplish nothing like you, i'll come to you for advice on how to do that.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 16, 2010, 04:05 PM
You already know the secrets on how to accomplish nothing in fantasy sports - you did it last year and you're well on your way this year.

I don't give a **** how many 'Fantasy Championships' you've won in the past - I'm only concerned about now. 

And right now your team sucks donkey balls.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 16, 2010, 07:13 PM

I don't give a **** how many 'Fantasy Championships' you've won in the past - I'm only concerned about now. 


Well isn't that convenient.



And right now your team sucks donkey balls.



Your mom sucks donkey balls. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 16, 2010, 11:50 PM
Big man with a keyboard.

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 17, 2010, 11:48 AM
Big man with a keyboard.


That would have been easier.  Droid mobile.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 18, 2010, 12:42 AM
Wow, lotsa smack talk considering we're just a game in.  Let's give it another week or two before we argue about who can piss the furthest.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 18, 2010, 01:33 AM
Wow, lotsa smack talk considering we're just a game in.  Let's give it another week or two before we argue about who can piss the furthest.

You're just stalling in hopes of having a leg to stand on.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 18, 2010, 08:38 AM
Wow, lotsa smack talk considering we're just a game in.  Let's give it another week or two before we argue about who can piss the furthest.

You're just stalling in hopes of having a leg to stand on.

Darn right I am. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 20, 2010, 05:12 PM

Okay Travis, so this Sunday if Marion Barber and Felix Jones combine for 3 TDs, I'll meet you back here.

*Officially kicking the hornets nest.*

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on September 21, 2010, 12:08 AM
Oooh......Gore-y.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on September 21, 2010, 06:43 PM
One of my better RBs is out for the season, so now I'm looking to trade a decent WR for a decent RB if anyone is interested
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 21, 2010, 06:55 PM
Oooh......Gore-y.

That was quite a little come-back you managed there.  Nice.

One of my better RBs is out for the season, so now I'm looking to trade a decent WR for a decent RB if anyone is interested

Sure thing, but it'll take more than Devon Hester if you want Brandon Jackson.   ;)  Welker or Austin and we can start talking.

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 21, 2010, 08:44 PM


Sure thing, but it'll take more than Devon Hester if you want Brandon Jackson.   ;)  Welker or Austin and we can start talking.



Pffft.  Yeah right.  Keep dreaming Rob.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on September 21, 2010, 09:37 PM
One of my better RBs is out for the season, so now I'm looking to trade a decent WR for a decent RB if anyone is interested

Sure thing, but it'll take more than Devon Hester if you want Brandon Jackson.   ;)  Welker or Austin and we can start talking.

Heh, yeah, should have offered a better trade, but why not shoot for the stars? :P
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 21, 2010, 10:46 PM


Sure thing, but it'll take more than Devon Hester if you want Brandon Jackson.   ;)  Welker or Austin and we can start talking.



Pffft.  Yeah right.  Keep dreaming Rob.

 ???

What's odd to you about the idea of Jackson for Welker or Jackson for Austin?  He's the starting RB on one of the best offenses in the league.  If he stays healthy, he'll put up more points than either of those guys over 15 games (not counting week 1 when Ryan Grant was starting).  

Quite frankly, I don't think that I'd trade Jackson straight up for either one of them.  I certainly don't need to do anything trade-wise at the moment.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 21, 2010, 11:25 PM
Rob, you're insane.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 22, 2010, 09:42 AM


Sure thing, but it'll take more than Devon Hester if you want Brandon Jackson.   ;)  Welker or Austin and we can start talking.



Pffft.  Yeah right.  Keep dreaming Rob.

 ???

What's odd to you about the idea of Jackson for Welker or Jackson for Austin?  He's the starting RB on one of the best offenses in the league.  If he stays healthy, he'll put up more points than either of those guys over 15 games (not counting week 1 when Ryan Grant was starting).  

Quite frankly, I don't think that I'd trade Jackson straight up for either one of them.  I certainly don't need to do anything trade-wise at the moment.


Maybe because Brandon Jackson has accomplished zero in his career so far, has a career season high of 248 yards and 2 TDs in a season, and you're talking about trading him for established studs like Welker and Austin who have reached 1,000 yards and 10+ TDs.

I know Travis likes to get on me because the 'Boys started 0-2 and the O-line haven't blocked for Marion Barber and Felix Jones, but I still wouldn't trade you either one of them for Brandon Jackson.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 22, 2010, 10:20 AM
Maybe because Brandon Jackson has accomplished zero in his career so far, has a career season high of 248 yards and 2 TDs in a season, and you're talking about trading him for established studs like Welker and Austin who have reached 1,000 yards and 10+ TDs.

Same could be said about any guy who finally gets the starting opportunity after a few years of not having it.  Jahvid Best had done zero in his career so far except that in the last two games he scored 5 TD's.  Like I said, at the end of the year (if healthy) he'll have more points in our league than either of those two guys.  I'm perfectly happy to not trade him, and he's certainly far more valuable than Devon Hester (which was the initial offer).  He was a second round pick, the Packers love him as a RB, and for the first time the job is his.  He'll be productive.

I'm all for finding consistent guys to build your team around (why I took Brees and Wayne with 1 and 2) and avoided guys like Felix Jones, but you've got to fill out a roster with guys who are the next big thing, not the last big thing.

I know Travis likes to get on me because the 'Boys started 0-2 and the O-line haven't blocked for Marion Barber and Felix Jones, but I still wouldn't trade you either one of them for Brandon Jackson.

That's fine and dandy, because I wouldn't want either one of them for Brandon Jackson.  Why would I trade a guy who's going to get the bulk of the carries on a good offense for a guy who's splitting carries on a sputtering offense?   ???
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 22, 2010, 10:40 AM
The Star Trib had an article on Brandon Jackson this morning.  In it, they stated that the fans have taken to chanting "Crawl Brandon Crawl!" everytime he runs, since he only gets 2-3 yards per try.  Poor guy. 

He is a starter for one of the most explosive offenses this year and given his stats thus far, I'd be starting him if he was on my team.  Austin has been stellar thus far, so that offer is a bit out of line.  Welker's doing great too, but likely won't continue with that kind of TD production.  I actually think Welker for BJ is pretty fair if you have a surpluss of WR's on your team.  You can only start 3 at the end of the day, so if you've got 4 guys you like and only 1 RB, it makes sense to trade.  All depends on how much you like your other starters and who you have waiting on deck.

I'm looking for a WR or RB upgrade if anyone has a high performer they want to trade. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 22, 2010, 11:14 AM
He is a starter for one of the most explosive offenses this year and given his stats thus far, I'd be starting him if he was on my team.  Austin has been stellar thus far, so that offer is a bit out of line.  Welker's doing great too, but likely won't continue with that kind of TD production. 

Yep... Jackson's only been at it for one game.  The yardage wasn't there, but he did score.  We'll know more in a few weeks, but McCarthy likes him, he's got the pedigree, and he should be able to do as well as Grant once he gets going. 

Last week it was:

Miles Austin - 10.47
Wes Welker - 8.53
Brandon Jackson - 8.60

So yeah, pretty comparable so far.

Welker I still consider an injury risk.  Once someone shreds a knee like that I want to see them stay healthy for a year and be productive before I consider them worth drafting (unless it's later in the draft) or trading for. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 22, 2010, 12:40 PM
Remember, that yardage and TD was against the Bills - the worst team in football.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 22, 2010, 01:21 PM
Remember, that yardage and TD was against the Bills - the worst team in football.

He only had 11 carries.  
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 22, 2010, 02:48 PM
Remember, that yardage and TD was against the Bills - the worst team in football.

He only had 11 carries.  

Because he split 50-50 with John Kuhn, who actually performed much better than Brandon Jackson (who has averaged 3 ypc the last 2 seasons).
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 22, 2010, 02:53 PM
Kuhn got 9 carries and the Packers barely ran the ball.  There's no ambiguity about it, Jackson's their feature back.  Kuhn is the goal-line and short yardage guy.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 22, 2010, 03:12 PM
Kuhn got 9 carries and the Packers barely ran the ball.  There's no ambiguity about it, Jackson's their feature back.  Kuhn is the goal-line and short yardage guy.

No ambiguity except that Jackson only got half the carries.  And except Kuhn ran it better.  Got it.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 22, 2010, 03:18 PM
I was surprised to see Kuhn get that much work.  He's busy playing the FB role most of the time.  My fear about BJ is/was that Kuhn vultures all his TD opportunities.  If the guy can't break long runs and gets replaced at the stripe, then he's not going to get you many points.  

But it didn't happen that way on Sunday.  They ran Jackson at the 8 for 3yds, passed to Jones for 4yds, then put Jackson back in for the 1yd TD.  I would have thought Kuhn was a lock right there and maybe he would have come in if BJ didn't get on the first try, but BJ is a more appealing option given the play calling last week.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 22, 2010, 03:52 PM
Kuhn got 9 carries and the Packers barely ran the ball.  There's no ambiguity about it, Jackson's their feature back.  Kuhn is the goal-line and short yardage guy.

No ambiguity except that Jackson only got half the carries.  And except Kuhn ran it better.  Got it.

Right.  The fullback with 96 yards rushing for his entire 5 year career is a threat to ruin Jackon's fantasy football value.  Got it.  Meanwhile, most of his carries came in the second half, and most of those were once the Packers were up 20-7.  Because we all know that teams who lose feature backs the week before always put their best guy out there in the 4th quarter with a big lead.


Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 23, 2010, 12:12 AM
Remember, that yardage and TD was against the Bills - the worst team in football.

He only had 11 carries.  

So 2.63 YPC against the worst team in football.

Ronnie Brown racked up 65 yards on 13 carries against the Bills in week 1 (5 YPC).

Yeah, he's the RB on a hot team, but that doesn't change the fact that he sucks.

He was a great pickup for you as he didn't cost you anything but let's not pretend this guy is on the same level as Miles Austin - a guy who is one of the top 3 receivers in football so far this year.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 23, 2010, 01:24 AM
Not yet... I'm just saying that I think that by the end of the year they will be comparable is all.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 27, 2010, 12:37 PM
Blowout recap:

Weak 1:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/Award.png)

Weak 2:

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9007/week2u.jpg)

Weak 3:

Not official yet, but my money is on Dressel again - (on the receiving end of course):

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5615/weak3.jpg)


Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 27, 2010, 12:57 PM
Marin still has Aaron Rogers and Green Bay's defense too.

And next week the Cowboys are on their bye.   :-X
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 27, 2010, 05:29 PM
I can understand with all the time Rob is saving by residing in the basement of our fantasy baseball league, he has extra time to spend here.

PS.  Statistically I was the unluckiest team by just happening to have the most points scored against through 3 weeks.  By a lot.  That's a statistic that actually records and documents unluckiness.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 27, 2010, 05:56 PM
Well, luck or drafting, your team stinks like an unwashed jock strap.  Hope you can keep up that average for week 6!   ;)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 27, 2010, 05:59 PM
I can understand with all the time Rob is saving by residing in the basement of our fantasy baseball league, he has extra time to spend here.


That's what happens when you get stuck auto-drafting in a sport that you don't really follow.  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Avatars/Smilies/Shrug_01.gif)

PS.  Statistically I was the unluckiest team by just happening to have the most points scored against through 3 weeks.  By a lot.  That's a statistic that actually records and documents unluckiness.

Uh...

Week 01:  You would have beaten Caprica Buccaneers by 0.23 points - everyone else you'd have lost to.
Week 02:  You would have beaten Caprica Buccaneers by 4.19 points - everyone else you'd have lost to.
Week 03:  I'm the only team you have more points than, but I've got 3 guys left to go.  Unless those guys fail to score 11.38 more points, we'll be able to say that you'd have lost to everyone.

That doesn't document bad luck, that documents a bad team.  But, hey, whatev...
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 27, 2010, 07:01 PM
Rob, every team just happened to score 95 points against me earning the "blowout" designation you keep posting.

I know I'd have lost on average to the majority of teams by a touchdown or two.  I get it.

I'm just saying that the whole "blowout" thing is lack of luck.  Most other opponents those weeks would not have yielded those results.

And as for your whole lame excuse about baseball, please.  Oh, I autodrafted!  Oh, I don't care about the sport.  Yeah okay maybe because you suck.  If I were a loser like you I'd post graphic after graphic in the baseball thread illustrating how you have been beaten down like a red-headed stepchild for 6 whole months.

Me?  I had 3 bad Sundays so far this season.  My record in fantasy football in the JD League is really, really good.  Playoffs most years.  3 Superbowls and a championship.

Whatever your reason is for being an a-hole the past couple weeks, you're being a stupid loser.  Maybe it's because you're about to get the rump-wrangling of your lifetime over in the political arena?  Must suck to see your precious heroes about to be swept away by a tsunami like none other that they've ever seen or heard of.  Have fun on November 2nd, I'm gonna have a ball.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on September 27, 2010, 07:12 PM
And as for your whole lame excuse about baseball, please.  Oh, I autodrafted!  Oh, I don't care about the sport.  Yeah okay maybe because you suck.  If I were a loser like you I'd post graphic after graphic in the baseball thread illustrating how you have been beaten down like a red-headed stepchild for 6 whole months.

Sure... whatever.  Last time I didn't auto-draft, I won that league.  The last two years for whatever reason I haven't been able to make it.  My fault for not ranking players better I suppose, but thems the breaks.  I don't get all worked up about it because it's just not that important to me.  

Whatever your reason is for being an a-hole the past couple weeks, you're being a stupid loser.  Maybe it's because you're about to get the rump-wrangling of your lifetime over in the political arena?  Must suck to see your precious heroes about to be swept away by a tsunami like none other that they've ever seen or heard of.  Have fun on November 2nd, I'm gonna have a ball.

I thought I pretty much dropped the smack-talk nonsense after week one.  Since then I just threw out some numbers, if you want to look for an A-hole, Travis has you covered.  

That's cute that you think I have political heroes (I most definitely don't) but let's try to avoid having that section spill over into this one.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 27, 2010, 09:28 PM
I'm not talking smack, I'm posting a recap of what's going on in the JD Fantasy Football league.

 ???
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 27, 2010, 10:00 PM
Oh boy.

Um, Rob, sorta apologize, I thought that was you posting those "blowout" graphics this time, I didn't realize it was Travis who was being the ******* on this occasion.  My mistake.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on October 3, 2010, 04:06 PM
Generally I don't comment on trade offers I receive, no matter how absurd they are but this one was pretty much insulting:

Pierre Thomas for LaDainian Tomlinson. 

I wasn't aware I appeared to be THAT stupid.   ::)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2010, 04:36 PM
Did that happen after today's game?

Going into today's game:

Tomlinson: 208 yards rushing, 1 TD and 60 yards receiving.   23.87 points
Thomas:  144 yards rushing, 1 TD and 133 yards receiving.   24.67 points

Tomlinson had a big game today, but Thomas (is he hurt?) is still supposed to be the starting RB on a good offense.  I think you're probably right to reject it and all if Tomlinson is really the guy in NY, but is it really that insulting of an offer?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on October 3, 2010, 05:33 PM
Yeah, it came at the end of the game.  I guy who's hurt for a guy that's shown himself to be revitalized and a focal point in an offense?  It's a running back from a run-centric team for a running back from a pass-centric team. 

Honestly going forward.... PT's already shown himself to be an injury risk.  At LT's age he IS an injury risk.  From that front they're no different so it comes down to the team philosophy.  I wouldn't have made that trade last week or right after the draft.  But coming after PT misses the game and LT puts up as much in one game as he has all season?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2010, 06:18 PM
Patrick definitely isn't trying to swindle anyone, and he likes to throw trade offers out there, more than anyone else in this league.  If you weren't sold on Tomlinson and thought Shonn Greene stood a chance of taking his job, it could be a chance to sell high.  The timing is obvious, but I probably wouldn't be insulted by it if it were me. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on October 3, 2010, 08:27 PM
Yeah, he throws out lots of trades including a two for two earlier that included both players plus another on each side.  He withdrew it before I could reject but I would have regardless.  It's the timing of this one with a missed game by one player and another doubling his year's points that looked silly. 

I get the sell high philosophy but isn't it up to me to initiate the sale in general?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 4, 2010, 08:10 AM
I tink you're right to keep LT at this point given his performance yesterday.  The PT will get his as well, but you've got to stick with the hot hand.  My fear with LT is that they get Greene more involved at some point...PT at least doesn't have a younger stud waiting in the wings.

Personally, I'm never offended by trade offers.  If someone wants to throw something out, I think its fun to just consider and discuss.  If its outrageous, then at least it's good for a laugh.  Last week I was offered CJ Spiller, Ray Rice, and some flunkie WR for Owens and Turner.  Similar to Brent, I didn't think my top RB Turner was equal to an injured Rice going against Pittsburgh, but I was interested in Spiller and Owens rides the pine on my team.  I declined to trade my #1 guy and figured Owens would break out one of these days.  Pretty happy I didn't make the trade considering what happened yesterday!
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on October 5, 2010, 09:26 AM
Randy Moss and Andre Johnson = biggest busts of the year.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 5, 2010, 05:16 PM
Randy Moss and Andre Johnson = biggest busts of the year.

Come on!!!  Moss hasn’t been stellar, but he has 3 TDs in 4 games, and should have had a 4th last night.  He’s on pace for 12 TDs this year despite low yardage.  That’s light years beyond a lot of the guys selected in front of him.  Ray Rice hasn’t done anything in four games, while F. Gore and MJD have been silent in 75% of theirs.  Those guys are much bigger busts than Moss.  I’d throw S. Greene, R. Matthews, D. Brees, M. Colston, and Ryan Grant under the bus as well. 

Heck, look at the WRs selected after Moss:
R. Wayne 2 TDs
R. White 2 TDs
C. Johnson 2 TDs (and just got them this week)
Fitzgerald, Des. Jackson, Austin, Marshall, S. Smith – none of those guys have been very good yet, and I’d rather have Moss than any of them.

I’m more surprised at all the sleepers or non-drafted players at the top of the rankings.  Vick, Maclin, A. Collie, B. Lloyd, P. Hillis, McFadden are all within the top 10 at their position right now. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on October 5, 2010, 05:34 PM
I'll call Colston a bust at this point but I wouldn't call Gore the same.  I knew what I was getting with Gore was stuff in bunches with droughts mixed in.  He's done about what I suspected would happen with a new offensive coordinator and SF still learning plus some tough matchups.  He'll put up more points later in the year (and probably miss a couple of games due to injury). 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on October 18, 2010, 06:05 PM
Who writes the blurbs for yahoo's player notes? 

Quote
Be cautious starting Addai next week

If I start Addai on Indy's bye week, I probably shouldn't be playing the game. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 18, 2010, 06:41 PM
Who writes the blurbs for yahoo's player notes? 

Quote
Be cautious starting Addai next week

If I start Addai on Indy's bye week, I probably shouldn't be playing the game. 

LOL!  Nice find.  At least it doesn't say to start him with confidence...
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on October 25, 2010, 11:58 PM
Giving up...... now.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 26, 2010, 02:40 PM
Giving up...... now.

Still lots of time left in the season dude.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on October 26, 2010, 03:34 PM
Look on the bright side, you could have a team full of Dallas Cowboys
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 26, 2010, 04:09 PM
Look on the bright side, you could have a team full of Dallas Cowboys

I'll keep that in the proper context from someone who was defeated in his only JD Super Bowl appearance by Kevin.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 26, 2010, 04:19 PM
Look on the bright side, you could have a team full of Dallas Cowboys

I'll keep that in the proper context from someone who was defeated in his only JD Super Bowl appearance by Kevin.

Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
a little of the glory of, well time slips away
and leaves you with nothing mister but
boring stories of glory days
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 26, 2010, 05:20 PM
Look on the bright side, you could have a team full of Dallas Cowboys

I'll keep that in the proper context from someone who was defeated in his only JD Super Bowl appearance by Kevin.

Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
a little of the glory of, well time slips away
and leaves you with nothing mister but
boring stories of glory days


He never had glory days!!  Haha.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on October 27, 2010, 12:09 AM
Giving up...... now.

Still lots of time left in the season dude.

True. I wrote that when I was mad, my WRs have been nothing but disappointments. :)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on October 27, 2010, 09:24 AM
Look on the bright side, you could have a team full of Dallas Cowboys

I'll keep that in the proper context from someone who was defeated in his only JD Super Bowl appearance by Kevin.

Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
a little of the glory of, well time slips away
and leaves you with nothing mister but
boring stories of glory days


LOL - Dressel should make that his sig line in our league.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 27, 2010, 06:47 PM
 ;D 

I'm just happy my guys are panning out in this league.  Would be nice to have that happen in the leagues where I can actually win some money.   ::)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on October 28, 2010, 11:54 PM
Dressel vs. Ruiner this week... been looking forward to this one since the smack talking began.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on October 31, 2010, 10:29 PM
Too bad it wasn't closer.

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on November 2, 2010, 09:35 AM
2nd in scoring + 2nd most points against = 8th place.   :-[
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 3, 2010, 04:31 PM
2nd in scoring + 2nd most points against = 8th place.   :-[


Well, I'm #1 in scoring and only 4th place, so I guess that seems about right.    :P

Luckily I have an EASY matchup this week.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on November 3, 2010, 05:50 PM
Luckily I have an EASY matchup this week.
::)

Hopefully Williams plays or else I am screwed...not too optomistic. :P
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 3, 2010, 06:27 PM
Luckily I have an EASY matchup this week.
::)

Hopefully Williams plays or else I am screwed...not too optomistic. :P

Well, given my luck with the schedule I'd say you have at least a 50-50 shot.   ;)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on November 5, 2010, 09:13 PM
Luckily I have an EASY matchup this week.

Not as easy as Springfield Isotopes
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Matt Carroll on November 6, 2010, 07:47 PM
2nd in scoring + 2nd most points against = 8th place.   :-[


Yeah, but it's all about just getting in the playoffs. I know I don't want to be up against you in round 1.

Luckily I have an EASY matchup this week.

Not as easy as Springfield Isotopes

Hey now, no jinxing anything.  :-X
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on November 7, 2010, 12:34 AM
Yeah, but it's all about just getting in the playoffs. I know I don't want to be up against you in round 1.


We'll see... if the playoffs started today I'd be the last seed, but if my little band of rejects doesn't start managing to win a few games, we'll never get to find out. :)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 22, 2010, 08:40 AM
WTF is with Ruiner this year!?  Uncatchable.  >:(
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on November 22, 2010, 09:34 AM
He's got a great chance to win, no doubt.  But I had that team 3 or 4 years ago the year Romo threw 35 TD's and Randy Moss caught 23, I won like 9 straight and spent the whole year in 1st place, then lost in the 1st round of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on November 22, 2010, 09:47 AM
I had a team like that once too.  LT in his heyday, a couple of Bengals when they were really worthwhile.  Same as Rob, one loss, dominated the regular season then lost first round of playoffs.  It's definitely a good team but the playoffs are always a crapshoot. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 22, 2010, 10:43 AM
He's got a great chance to win, no doubt.  But I had that team 3 or 4 years ago the year Romo threw 35 TD's and Randy Moss caught 23, I won like 9 straight and spent the whole year in 1st place, then lost in the 1st round of the playoffs.

I hear ya - I had that team in this league last year at #1 through most of the season, but got destroyed in the playoffs.  Still, nice to go into them at the top! 

Can someone remind me - do we allow 6 in with bye weeks or do 8 teams get in?  I think I recall 8 teams and no byes... ???
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on November 22, 2010, 10:44 AM
8 teams, no byes, this week hurt  :'(
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 22, 2010, 10:55 AM
I guarantee I won't win this thing.

There's too much luck involved.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 22, 2010, 12:44 PM
I guarantee I won't win this thing.

There's too much luck involved.


::)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 22, 2010, 02:03 PM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/bvalade/rolleyes7cm.gif)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on November 22, 2010, 03:02 PM
But do any of you suckers have the LAST PLACE TEAM?

Didn't think so. :-*
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 29, 2010, 12:28 PM
I guarantee I won't win this thing.

There's too much luck involved.

Looks like the luck was with me on Sunday.  Good Game Ruiner & thanks to Chris Johnson for taking the day off.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 29, 2010, 07:29 PM
Same lineup put up what, 100+ pts last week?

Luck has everything to do with it.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on November 30, 2010, 02:05 PM
I think it's safe to say my season just died. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 30, 2010, 03:06 PM
I think it's safe to say my season just died. 

Think of it as an organ donation.  Brian Westbrook helps my 25% chance at life (making the playoffs.)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 30, 2010, 03:23 PM
I don't want to play you in the first round of the playoffs.  Your team has made a complete 180.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on November 30, 2010, 03:58 PM
I think it's safe to say my season just died. 

Think of it as an organ donation.  Brian Westbrook helps my 25% chance at life (making the playoffs.)
You're going to have outscore someone by 80+ points...5% is probably more realistic
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 30, 2010, 08:18 PM
I think it's safe to say my season just died. 

Think of it as an organ donation.  Brian Westbrook helps my 25% chance at life (making the playoffs.)
You're going to have outscore someone by 80+ points...5% is probably more realistic

Actually that's not true.

Rob and I have the same record.  So there are 4 possible scenarios:

1.  I win, Rob loses.  I go to the playoffs.
2.  I win, Rob wins.  Rob goes to the playoffs.
3.  I lose, Rob wins.  Rob goes to the playoffs.
4.  I lose, Rob loses.  Rob goes to the playoffs.

1 chance in 4 = 25%

So, yeah.  A chance, not great but there's potential.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on November 30, 2010, 08:45 PM
Yeah, my bad, I forgot the easiest scenario :P 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on November 30, 2010, 11:39 PM
Actually that's not true.

Rob and I have the same record.  So there are 4 possible scenarios:

1.  I win, Rob loses.  I go to the playoffs.
2.  I win, Rob wins.  Rob goes to the playoffs.
3.  I lose, Rob wins.  Rob goes to the playoffs.
4.  I lose, Rob loses.  Rob goes to the playoffs.

1 chance in 4 = 25%

So, yeah.  A chance, not great but there's potential.

Poetic... my own girlfriend is going to bounce me out of the playoffs and in goes my fantasy sports nemesis as a result. 

I should have started Maurice Morris.   :'(
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on December 6, 2010, 05:48 PM
I should have started Maurice Morris.   :'(

I bet that's the first time anyone ever wrote that.

Would now be an appropriate time to suggest that the top two teams get a bye in the playoffs?   ;)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on December 7, 2010, 01:07 AM

Would now be an appropriate time to suggest that the top two teams get a bye in the playoffs?   ;)

You already have a bye, you're playing me.   ::)
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on December 12, 2010, 11:36 AM
Does anyone know what the fantasy football implications of the Giants Vikings game being all but canceled for now are?  I need to figure out what to do about Bradshaw.   ???

On a side note, I don't know if it could somehow have something to do with the storm or what, but I'm having major internet issues.  JD seems to be working slowly but I can't get Yahoo (and many other sites) to load at all, so I can't check on my roster.  I've restarted the modem, router, computer...  I'm not sure what else to do about it but I might be stuck with everyone that's in there now.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on December 12, 2010, 12:20 PM
Never mind... I see that the Giants game will be on Monday still just in Detroit...
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on December 12, 2010, 12:57 PM
Holy crap - did you guys see the footage of the Metrodome roof collapsing?  Guess that improves the Vikings position on getting a new stadium.   :o
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on December 13, 2010, 09:36 AM
Clearly they sabotaged the whole thing to that end.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on December 13, 2010, 01:27 PM
Clearly they sabotaged the whole thing to that end.

 ;)  If so, I think they must have sabotaged it years ago.  I kept an eye on some of the other dome games on Sunday and seems like they all have more reinforcement/structures going across the top.  The Silverdome for example seems to have metal rails/guards up all over the place.  Anyone know if there are other domes with the same hot-air & teflon design?

By the way, I found this pretty interesting:

"According to the Metrodome Web site, the roof has collapsed before. It happened just 48 days after the roof was first inflated in 1981. Wet, heavy snow was the cause then, too. The stadium was completed in 1982."

Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on December 21, 2010, 11:06 PM
And then there were two.  Good luck this weekend J!
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on December 28, 2010, 11:31 PM
Barring any corrections, congratulations to Jim (chuckles) on the win. 

Close call Justin, congrats on a good season and on very nearly calling how much you'd lose by (comment on your team - 16 points (actual 15) when you needed 17 from Vick).  Still can't believe the Vikings won that one.

As a side note, Scott had me by .01 for 7th place earlier today but we seem tied again tonight. 
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Morgbug on December 28, 2010, 11:36 PM


There's too much luck involved.

Truer words.  Top team loses in first round.  6-7 team wins league having three 10 point contributions on the bench.  More than any other fantasy sport, luck matters here.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Diddly on December 29, 2010, 04:00 AM
As a side note, Scott had me by .01 for 7th place earlier today but we seem tied again tonight. 

That score's been jumping around too, earlier I saw that Scott was ahead .19 to .18, then later you were up .21 to .20. Last I checked it was dead even at .20.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: JediJman on December 29, 2010, 08:34 AM
Barring any corrections, congratulations to Jim (chuckles) on the win. 

Close call Justin, congrats on a good season and on very nearly calling how much you'd lose by (comment on your team - 16 points (actual 15) when you needed 17 from Vick).  Still can't believe the Vikings won that one.

Nice win Jim!  That is just exactly the way my season has been going across all my leagues.  I missed out on first round playoffs in another league by .9pts and had the top score the next two weeks (while out of contention).  I actually thought the Eagles would be so far ahead that they would bench Vick before I could get enough points.  Just too many turnovers from Vick sapping away the points.  Man, the way he was throwing to the Vikes last night maybe he should be their new QB?
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Scott on December 29, 2010, 10:17 AM
Congrats Jim on the win

I was going to complain about my first round loss but saved my breath...I have no idea how Crabtree got on my starting line up and I totally missed Gates not playing.

I really think my team got killed by injuries, healthy years for DeAngelo Williams, Clinton Portis and Gates and I think I would have been right there....which is where luck plays in to the whole deal

Which is why I hate Fantasy playoffs and we don't have them in my money league.  The champion of the league should be the one who excels all year long not the last 2-3 weeks of the season.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: Rob on December 29, 2010, 10:47 AM
Congrats to the underdog.  Nice to see an 8 seed (and the guy who knocked me out of the playoffs) win the whole thing.

I had another league where my team was totally loaded, Adrian Peterson, Mike Tolbert, Phillip Rivers, Roddy White, Marques Colston, Steven Jackson, and Jason Whitten... but I lost in the second round because AP didn't end up playing last week despite reports that he would.  I had four guys on my bench who'd have given me enough points.

In another league (with a $150 gift card for Dick's Sporting Goods on the line) I had Jon Kitna go out of the game with a hip injury, and Mike Tolbert got hurt before he could come up with anything either - I lost by 6 points.

Luck of the draw.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: ruiner on December 29, 2010, 02:29 PM
Sad to see the FF season end.

Hopefully we'll have football next year.
Title: Re: Jedidefender Fantasy Football 2010
Post by: chuckles on December 29, 2010, 06:34 PM
Thanks everyone. Was definitely a shocking and unexpected victory. Hell, I wasn't even expecting to get out of first round, let alone win 3 straight. I'll be the first to admit that my team was hardly one of the better ones in the league entering the playoffs (the 8 seed was certainly fitting) but, as it's been stated here before, it's all about luck, especially once the playoffs start.