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Title: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jayson on August 2, 2005, 01:43 PM
Here are some shots of the new TIE Fighter with big boy solar panels…

http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=94041
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jim on August 2, 2005, 01:44 PM
Is it me or does this just not look right ???  The height of the wings look good but the diameter looks to big.  Probably just the pics.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jayson on August 2, 2005, 01:48 PM
It looks pretty close to me other than the color… I never liked that blue. Lt Gray seems a little more fitting to me.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Diddly on August 2, 2005, 02:05 PM
Looks good, I'll pick one up as I enjoy scaled vehicles. The paint isn't really a big deal to me; it seems to me that every TIE Fighter made by a toy company has the wrong colors.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Morgbug on August 2, 2005, 02:14 PM
Sigh.  At the risk of being overly cynical, I'm going to reserve judgement until I see a side by side photo, loose, with a previous version.  The box art could be too easily deceiving.  From the visual presentation by the pictures, I still think it could be underscaled everywhere except in the pictures.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on August 2, 2005, 02:26 PM
Well, this pic right here has me sold on it -

http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2005/jt_tie05back.jpg

I'm looking forward to this version of the TIE.  Even if it's not perfectly scaled to the ILM models, that's fine with me as this is probably as close as we'll ever get from Hasbro.  Sign me up for two of these to open... this is the most excited about a vehicle that I've been since the Skiff!

One weird thing though... on the back of the box, it shows the SAGA TIE pilot, but in the bubble in the front, it's the kit bashed POTF2 version... hopefully we'll get the SAGA version.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on August 2, 2005, 03:10 PM
yeah I wouldn't mind 1 or 2 of these, I have the tie from the otc 'costco' set that came with the otc x-wing; best thing those came with figures.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: ruiner on August 2, 2005, 03:47 PM
I'm excited about this one...I've been holding off on buying a TIE fighter because of the rumors surrounding this one...and I do hope that it comes with the Saga TIE pilot as I never acquired him either.

What does everyone think of the package?  Kind of has a ROTS theme to it, yet not.

I wonder if it's a sign of things to come or just filler?

Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Brian on August 2, 2005, 04:03 PM
I think I'll most likely pick this one up as well, but I'll wait and see for sure.  I do have one TIE that I just picked up in 2003 (the Imperial Dogfight - KB Toys Exclusive), but if this upcoming one was indeed more accurate, that might make it worth it to me.  Vehicle shelf space is at a premium now, so unless we start seeing all new ones like an AT-TE or Turbo Tank, I'll likely be sticking with OT vehicles only from here on...and only ones I don't have or really want at this point.

I also noticed the packaging, reminds me of what we saw of the repackaged TRU Falcon they showed at Comic-Con.  It has the lava-ish colored Star Wars logo, but otherwise no movie mention.  I wonder if it is the "filler" packaging for non PT stuff between ROTS and the Saga Collection in 2006.  Isn't this TIE rumored to be a Target exclusive?  I thought I heard that somewhere.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 2, 2005, 04:48 PM
Isn't this TIE rumored to be a Target exclusive?  I thought I heard that somewhere.

I was waiting for someone to bring this up.

It is, in fact, a retail store exclusive, we just don't know which one for sure yet.

I HATE EXCLUSIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 >:(
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 2, 2005, 05:38 PM
That looks really nice.  Thanks for the heads-up on the picture, Jay! :)

I'd be willing to bet it's a Target exclusive, since the trend seems to be that 9 times out of 10, an exclusive is a Target exclusive.  Plus, it's extremely cool and will fly off shelves, so it has to be a Target exclusive so Target can utilize all their collector-hatin', DPCI-deletin', non-stockin' energies to keep giving collectors headaches.

Plus, this is usually the way it goes these days:

Target: Cool exclusives that nobody can get.

Toys R Us: Cool exclusives that some people can get.

Wal-Mart: Crappy exclusives that nobody wants.

 :D
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on August 2, 2005, 05:51 PM
If it's an exlclusive, I hope that TRU gets it...

Down with Target.  I'm sick of them, their policies, and their exclusives.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth Broem on August 2, 2005, 08:06 PM
I don't know what it is about it but it seems a little bit off IMO.  I can't quite figure it out though.  But I am glad they have at least tried to make the wings bigger.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SilverZ on August 2, 2005, 08:52 PM
Dunno... looks pretty good to me. Look at the first image of the front of the box, and relate the height of the package to the pod in the center. I think those are really well scaled wings. The picture on the back doesn't look right to me either, but a lot of that is because the printed image perspective is skewed by the actual packaging, making the wings look stubbier.

I can't wait to become infuriated, I mean, shop, at Target for this.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: speedermike on August 2, 2005, 09:00 PM
This looks nice, I think that the photos are pretty unclear...

The package made me laugh. Leave it to Hasbro to promote "Larger Scale Wings" instead of "Proper Scale Wings!"
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: alexandertrooper on August 2, 2005, 09:24 PM
wow I can't wait to get my hands on a few of thoses.  Man do they look good.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 2, 2005, 09:44 PM
I'm not sure what to think by the pictures...  TIE's are rather small ships, so I'll reserve judgement till I can actually measure it myself and compare to ILM #'s as far as how accurately scaled the solar panels are.

Some shots make it look off, others make it look at least incredibly near to correct if not accurate.  Just tough to say. 

The Pilot's lame if that's what we're getting.

If it's off, Hasbro's a bunch of douchebags though...  At this stage of the game, it's just excuseless considering any ammount it is off isn't HUGE, and could easily have been done properly.  Like the 12" line though, Hasbro's not been reliable with ships all the time.

BTW, for the curious, the TIE's have always been intended to be a blue hue from their original concepts on, but were changed to grey to accomodate the effects process.  As things were advanced though, they reverted to the blue in ESB and ROTJ as was intended.  EU doesn't touch on it much at all I don't believe, but I've seen people make the excuse that the TIE's go through a transformation where their alloys are comprised of different materials (stronger) on the later models so the greys of ANH are earlier weaker structures... 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ryan on August 2, 2005, 10:19 PM
Wow, I never knew that about the color. Thanks for that little tidbit Jesse, I always wondered why they looked different.  :)

I too will reserve judgment until I see more pictures of them or the product itself, but if it is correct count me in for a couple. Even if it is incorrect I'll pick up one, I need another TIE or two.

And it better come with the SAGA pilot, I am so sick and tired of hasblow reissuing older figures when new and better sculpts are availible, I.E. the POTF2 snowtroopers in the battle 5 packs, Cantina Han, the repaints of the #6 clone when there is a much better #41 clone availible, etc., etc. etc. It's not like it costs any more, and if it does it can't be that significant.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CorranHorn on August 3, 2005, 12:35 AM
yeah the pictures are a bit askew, but then again they're really not of a great quality. though it sure does look pretty close to me in terms of scale as the first picture seems to imply they may have shortened the pylons. it would be nice if this saw a wider distribution than just being an exclusive, cause I think it has the ability to sell quite nicely. of course they need to swap out the modified POTF2 pilot for the far superior SAGA pilot as SLC indicated. hopefully we'll see loose pics soon, with a verification of what pilot comes with it and when it will be at retail.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ben on August 3, 2005, 02:20 AM
I'm sure I'll buy one, but if it's a Target exclusive, it's going to be a pain to find.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 3, 2005, 07:51 AM
Now I gotta replace my old TIE's. :P

I think it's looking nice. Even if the scale isn't exact, which it isn't since it's the same cockpit, it's still going to be close which is good enough for me. Seriously though, I'm going to have to re-size my hanger bay. :(
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: speedermike on August 3, 2005, 10:51 AM
They should do a paint variation with the light grey from ANH. 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 3, 2005, 06:53 PM


The Pilot's lame if that's what we're getting.


From the front pic, it looks like we're getting a POTF2 pilot.  From the back pic, it looks like we're getting OTC.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on August 4, 2005, 12:44 AM
I do hope it's the one on the back.  Either way I'll still get two of these probably, but packing in that old sculpt would be pretty senseless.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 4, 2005, 07:15 PM
The cockpit's actually pretty close, if not accurate to-scale.  Though the cockpit ball scale tends to vary a bit depending on what source is looked at.

It's a small piece though, and the original Kenner sculpt was pretty accurate in scale and detail aside from the light piece and the battery box of course.  Hasbro's retooling of it made it perfect to me.

The cockpit's opening though is in dispute...  I'm ok with it as-is though.  It'd be better/sturdier if it were one-piece and flipped backwards like the Vader's TIE resculpt.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: T16skyhopp on August 4, 2005, 09:14 PM
i still wish they get rid of the ancient battery pack and sculpt us a freaking engine.... >< grrrrr
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: speedermike on August 4, 2005, 10:01 PM
"... i still wish they get rid of the ancient battery pack and sculpt us a freaking engine...."

They did, the TIE tha KB had last year has the proper little hole for the engine.  The batterypack is gone.  This ne sculpt will have the updated engine area.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Reid on August 4, 2005, 10:18 PM
Finally, a new TIE. I dont have one so i'll definitly scoop this bad boy up.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 5, 2005, 10:42 AM
"... i still wish they get rid of the ancient battery pack and sculpt us a freaking engine...."

They did, the TIE tha KB had last year has the proper little hole for the engine.  The batterypack is gone.  This ne sculpt will have the updated engine area.

Same thing for the OTC release. This new cockpit should be the new standard.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Vator on August 5, 2005, 10:46 AM
Nope, OTC had the battery pack. Or atleast, I'm pretty sure it did.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ranat on August 5, 2005, 05:12 PM
My POTF2 one is still in one piece, so I'll be passing on this.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ryan on August 6, 2005, 01:49 AM
Nope, OTC had the battery pack. Or atleast, I'm pretty sure it did.


Nope it has the fixed cockpit. ;) I never got that SAGA TIE, my KB sucked and there wasn't any others annywhere close, I picked up the OTC TIE because it had the fixed cockpit ball as well.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 6, 2005, 12:08 PM
Nope, OTC had the battery pack. Or atleast, I'm pretty sure it did.


I just inspected the one I haven't opened yet. The OTC one does not have the battery compartment. ;)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Vator on August 6, 2005, 05:55 PM
D'oh! Now I feel like a real jackass. I just realized I have a POTF2 one infront of the 5 OTCs I have, and I thought the POTF2 one was the OTC kinda. Brilliant.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 6, 2005, 05:59 PM
I just realized I have a POTF2 one infront of the 5 OTCs I have,

Wow, that must make for an impressive display.   :o

I'm sure the other guys aren't too worried about your mistake.   ;)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ryan on August 6, 2005, 07:56 PM
I just realized I have a POTF2 one infront of the 5 OTCs I have,

Wow, that must make for an impressive display.   :o

I'm sure the other guys aren't too worried about your mistake.   ;)

Speak for yourself.






 ;)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Vator on August 7, 2005, 02:06 AM
I just realized I have a POTF2 one infront of the 5 OTCs I have,

Wow, that must make for an impressive display.   :o

I'm sure the other guys aren't too worried about your mistake.   ;)


Speak for yourself.






 ;)

Ha. Well I wish they were displayed...but right now they're just sitting on my desk.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2005, 09:12 AM
Courtesy of Ryan over in the MN Store Reports Thread:

Listing from the Target Computer:

TIE Fighter w/Figure
DPCI = 087-06-1496
$39.99


$40!   >:(

Good Grief! 

Wasn't the KB Version with the figure like $30?  So that means an extra $10-15 just for the new wings?   ::)

Sure, I'll end up buying the damn thing, but it's times like this I hate myself for my SW OCD...  :-\

Jeff
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 19, 2005, 09:40 AM
Courtesy of Ryan over in the MN Store Reports Thread:

Listing from the Target Computer:

TIE Fighter w/Figure
DPCI = 087-06-1496
$39.99

Allow me to say one profanity laced statement that will sum up my feelings on the matter:

WHAT THE ****?!?!

So, the TIE Bomber at Wal-Mart went for 30 dollars, which I understood.  The OTC TIE at KB went for 30 dollars, which I was skeptical of, but understood.  The TIE Interceptor at TRU went for 25 dollars, which I understood.

Now, a regular TIE Fighter with what looks like a POTF2 era figure is 40 dollars because they had to make some new wings?  I'm telling you, this thing had better fly on its own for 40 dollars.  >:(
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 19, 2005, 10:19 AM
They don't think it's a Target exclusive do they? ??? :(
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2005, 10:22 AM
They don't think it's a Target exclusive do they? ??? :(

Actually, yes - at the moment, it is planned to be a Target Exclusive item. 

Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 19, 2005, 10:35 AM
They don't think it's a Target exclusive do they? ??? :(

Actually, yes - at the moment, it is planned to be a Target Exclusive item. 



Bummer, obviously I missed that part of the announcement. Now I'm not so surprised.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Daigo-Bah on August 19, 2005, 11:31 AM
I am definitely one of the cheap...err, frugal collectors out there, and I'm surprised by the $40 price tag if it's accurate, but I don't feel this as much as I feel the EE Astromech packs (which I'm not buying).  I just know this ship is gonna look great hanging from the ceiling!
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Gatillo on August 19, 2005, 11:48 AM
The B-wing was a Target ship and it was way bigger and better, also had a pilot and it was $40.  I cannot imagine how this ship can cost anything more than 29.99 or even 24.99.  Oh well, peg warming here we go.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: speedermike on August 19, 2005, 12:19 PM
It's our own fault for the high prices.  We bought up 12 dollar Clones, and 12 dollar Lava Vaders...they know that they can over charge us, and it will still sell.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jim on August 19, 2005, 01:04 PM
Well there will be one extra on shelves with my pass.  Definitely not worth $40.  If it had electronics I might bite.  Especially if it had that fly by sound.  The coolest ship sound in the Trilogies. 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 19, 2005, 03:24 PM
It's our own fault for the high prices.  We bought up 12 dollar Clones, and 12 dollar Lava Vaders...they know that they can over charge us, and it will still sell.

Truer words have never been spoken. :(
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 19, 2005, 04:16 PM
B-Wings didn't sell...  I'm thinking this may not if it's heavily shipped.

I'm still debating if it's even to-scale yet...  So I'm gonna measure if I find one while it's in the box and if it's not I'm passing.  I'm thinking it's still underscale though, so that'll make my decision easy enough.  Even if it was to-scale though, At $40 each I've gone from buying upwards of 4 to definitely only getting 1 if any at all.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JediMAC on August 19, 2005, 05:33 PM
It's our own fault for the high prices.  We bought up 12 dollar Clones, and 12 dollar Lava Vaders...they know that they can over charge us, and it will still sell.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was about to say.  I agree with Mike here, in that Target's realized that we're pretty much going to buy any of their exclusives, regardless of price.  I think when the Lava Vaders and Target Clones sold like hotcakes at at whopping $13, they realized they had us by the balls now, and could jack the prices up on stuff from here on out.  I'm pretty damned sure that's why the last wave of cups suddenly jumped from $10 to $13.  I'd guess that's also why the TIE is going for $10 more than it should too.  Hell, the regular old version of the TIE Fighter went for $20.  Add a figure and a revised cockpit, and I guess I could almost see it going for $30, though $25 would be more appropriate.  Add a couple scaled wings, and it shouldn't be more than another $5 or so.  This thing should be $29.99.  Maybe $34.99, tops.

But I'll still be buying a couple at $40 though, of course.  Hopefully these things shelf warm, and hit clearance eventually (which Target isn't doing nearly as much these days), so we can nab them at a more reasonable price later on down the road.


B-Wings didn't sell...

They sold through pretty well out here, and I remember hearing a lot of folks had a hard time tracking these down elsewhere, so I don't think they did all that poorly...
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ben on August 19, 2005, 06:06 PM
I do want one of these, regardless of price.

It'll probably show up when I don't have enough money to spare on something like this.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 19, 2005, 06:11 PM
In my neck of the woods, the B-Wing (and the Leia w/bike) were 2 items that saw clearance at Target stores...  Most stores got about a half dozen B-Wings in, though one had a stack I recall, and I don't recall any of them moving fast here.

They sold, but only after about $10 mark-downs.  I got a 2nd one for trading at the time I recall.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Diddly on August 19, 2005, 06:45 PM
Hmm, I'll see how well they sell first. If they sit, I'll get it on clearance.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 19, 2005, 06:55 PM
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It's our own fault for the high prices.  We bought up 12 dollar Clones, and 12 dollar Lava Vaders...they know that they can over charge us, and it will still sell.

This is true.  In addition to what Matt said about the cups' price being raised by three dollars, now that I've seen the price of the TIE Fighter, I'm worried what the Plo Koon JSF is going to be priced at.  Before I said that 25 would be pushing it, but now I am thinking that 30 might end up being Target's retail price, given their warped pricing scheme these days. 

So, let's see:

-Target abolishes the ability to scan DCPI numbers, seemingly to keep collectors from bothering them?  CHECK.

-Target is increasingly rude and avoidant with not just collectors, but customers as well?  CHECK.

-Target refuses to pull new product to sell, much less to even stock the shelves with?  CHECK.

-Target raises the prices on everything across the board (25 bucks for the Sith vs. Jedi Battle Pack, while WM has it for 20?) and raises the prices of their exclusives to astronomical levels?  CHECK.

-Target continues to get more exclusive items than any other chain store, despite the utter failure of the Micro Series, and the massive disasters that were the Lava Vader and (to a much lesser extent) the SA Clone Trooper?  (UNFORTUNATELY) CHECK.

Target is like the stupid guy at work that is constantly messing everything up, but he happens to be married to the boss's daughter, so he ends up getting rewarded for his ineptitude. 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 19, 2005, 08:00 PM
Well there will be one extra on shelves with my pass.  Definitely not worth $40.  If it had electronics I might bite.  Especially if it had that fly by sound.  The coolest ship sound in the Trilogies. 

I couldn't agree more.  The fly by sound might make it worth the money, but to be honest, now I don't even care that the wings are to scale.  Obviously, the more accurate the scale and mold, the better, but at that price, I'll be passing.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on August 19, 2005, 10:56 PM
I wonder if the Wal-Mart bashers are loving Target so much these days?   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 19, 2005, 11:03 PM
I hate them both, however I still prefer shopping at Target.  Mine still allows DPCI searches though so I dunno that that is a nationwide thing.

WM's **** for distribution though and has tanked another toy line I like so currently I hold more anymosity towards them.  They start offering gasoline on the cheap cheap though and my opinion may be swayed.

Honestly I like K-Mart more than both.  They've been a good company up here that has had more steadily reliable distribution over the 10+ years of the line.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Gatillo on August 19, 2005, 11:50 PM
I'll buy one at clearance, that's about it.

B-wings sold well in my area at first but then they stuck around for a while.  I got my 1st one at 40 but the 2nd at 19 and the last two around 9 and some change.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on August 20, 2005, 12:10 AM
$9 or $19 or anywhere close to either of those prices would be wonderful to find the TIE at...

But I think the TIE is a much more popular design than the B-Wing.  So it might not sit around long enough to hit those clearance prices.

Then again, there's already been the previous POTF2 TIE, and it was repacked, so who knows.  Maybe these will sit and hit clearance.

I don't think I'm gonna chance it though.  I've been wanting a more to scale TIE for about a decade, so I think I'll be stupid and buy two of them for the full price if I see them.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CorranHorn on August 20, 2005, 01:22 AM

B-Wings didn't sell...

They sold through pretty well out here, and I remember hearing a lot of folks had a hard time tracking these down elsewhere, so I don't think they did all that poorly...

I'm going to have to agree with Jesse, at least in my area and reading reports at the time, several of the more recent and "large" Target exclusives had to be clearanced out. Such items as:

- POTJ B-Wing Fighter from $40 to as low as $10
- SAGA A-Wing Fighter from $20 to as low as $10 (shoulda bought more :( )
- SAGA Princess Leia on Speeder Bike from $50 to as low as $20

The same could be said about non-exclusive vehicles as well, including most of the SAGA and Clone Wars vehicles, and I'm guessing soon enough based on what I've seen, the ROTS Mustafar playset.

And outside of the "large" scale for exclusive items,  let's not forget those horrid SAGA Accessory sets and more recently the ROTS Clonetrooper.

Now of course it's hit and miss with Targets and their exclusives. I only saw the Sail Skiff once and never saw the Y-Wing here in Chicagoland, but people elsewhere reported seeing many of those elsewhere, though not on clearance. On the flip side, every item I mentioned above was clearanced in my area and many others, but as in Matt's case at least with the B-Wing they sold out before clearances. Because of the hit and miss nature of Target, I wouldn't advise waiting for clearances to get the exclusive TIE Fighter if you really want the ship, because you could miss out. I intend to buy one when I first find it, and then later if there are clearances I'll pick up a few more.

As for the price, $40 is pushing it, but as was already mentioned, Target & Hasbro know we're willing to pay that much, so they'll bump up the price. We're stupid people us collectors.  :-\
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on August 20, 2005, 02:54 AM
I NEVER saw the SAGA A-Wing, and during that time I was hitting 2-3 Targets every other day... lucky I was able to get one at a fair price from a dealer.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 20, 2005, 03:02 AM
The A-Wing was abundant here too Jason.  While I love the ship, it did clearance here as well.  It went pretty fast though as there weren't a ton.  I remember the B-Wing being rather abundant.  I know they sold at first but then sat...  That initial rush died on them.

The only 12" speederbike fig I wanted was the Scout and that was a set I never saw...  Same with the Y-Wing when we first got Targets in this area.  That was non-existant here.

Target's REAL spotty with exclusives and I'm always sorta bummed to hear when they get one.  TRU's the best at distributing exclusives I think.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CorranHorn on August 20, 2005, 04:45 AM
Target's REAL spotty with exclusives and I'm always sorta bummed to hear when they get one.  TRU's the best at distributing exclusives I think.

TRU may be good at distributing exclusives, but they always wind up with way more than they will sell. And worse yet is unlike Target who will notice its time to clearance, TRU will sit on the exclusives forever. Just look at the Screen Scenes, it's sick that a year plus later, they still haven't moved and are still priced at $19.99
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ryan on August 20, 2005, 04:59 AM
I saw 20 of the A-Wing at a local Target, and decided I wait cause I'd figured they'd be abundant. Then I never saw it again.  :-\ Luckily I got one at C3 for $20 from YesterToys.

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I wonder if the Wal-Mart bashers are loving Target so much these days?    ;)

 :P

Not loving the exclusives pricing, but yes I still like Target more than Wal-Mart, this doesn't change that. Wal-Mart sucks and it always will. The only reason I go is to check for Star Wars Toys, and usually I find what I need at target, Wally is just peg-warmer central.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 20, 2005, 11:48 AM
I wonder if the Wal-Mart bashers are loving Target so much these days? ;)

As much as I hate Wal-Mart for their business practices and their destruction of small-town America, the point has to be conceded that in some areas, WM is all there is (partially due to the destruction of small-town America).  Target, to me at least and on a pure aesthetic level, is a much more pleasant place to shop because it is designed in such a way that your shopping can be done relatively easy.  No clutter in the middle of the main aisles, the regular aisles with stock are wide and easily negotiated, and above all, it's clean and the shelves are always neatly arranged.  When you have obsessive-compulsive cleanliness issues like I do, this is a big plus.

Wal-Mart is designed so the aisles are extremely close together (this was if someone is blocking your path, you have to go down another aisle to come around and WM is counting on you seeing something you want on impulse in the aisle you use as a detour) and the main aisles have those huge island displays every three feet.  90% of the WMs I have been in even have carts full of stuff sitting between the islands so if you want to do a cut-across, you're just SOL and you have to walk to the end of the aisle and turn around.  And to top it all off, a lot of WMs don't really put a lot of credence in the idea of cleanliness (either their shelves or the patrons) and nothing is arranged in a logical manner.  For example, there are three different sections for soap dishes in my local WM and NONE of them is in the bathroom section.  ::)

That being said, Target employees and corporate practices are becoming really ridiculous lately (for reasons I outlined in a semi-sarcastic manner in an earlier post) and if they're going to look down on collectors and treat us like garbage, then they shouldn't be the store getting the cooler exclusives (if the TIE Fighter is going to be a big disaster, I can only imagine how that "Clone Attack on Coruscant" battle pack is going to be).

The thing that makes TRU exclusives a little bit more manageable is that TRU actually puts their exclusives up for sale on the website.  Target has, to my knowledge, only ever put the A-Wing (briefly) and the Lava Vader (very briefly) up for sale on their website and I think it's that reason why the Target exclusives are so difficult to get.  Target has their ass-backwards policies ("I don't care if we have it in the back.  It's better for it to sit there and collect dust than to sell it to you.") and they refuse to adapt them to the changing times.  I don't think I have ever seen a store that would rather hold stuff in the back to spite people than actually sell it more than Target (TRU is close on this, as the TRU nearest me is useless).

As for the B-Wing, I never saw one at retail and neither did any of my online friends, so I ended up paying 60 dollars for one from an etailer who got them from overseas.   :-\
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Nathan on August 20, 2005, 01:05 PM
I don't have any TIE fighters, so if it hits clearance for $19.99 or so, I may bite. Otherwise I give this a big F-U. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/ValinKenobi/Other/3c68cef3.gif)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 21, 2005, 12:59 PM
I decided about 2 years ago that I would pass on 99% of all ships and stuff (my son still buys some). Anyway, I'll pass on this.
As far as shopping, I have to admit for figures I go to Walmart 90% of the time. I only go to Target if I want something that will last alittle longer. For example, I have bought 3 watches in the last year from Wally for $5 to $10, and they have all worn out. So I went back and bought a watch from Target for $25. My last watch from Target lasted 4 years (not the battery, I'm hard on watches) before I destroyed it.
Same with my kids clothes. We buy Target because we got tired of the jeans breaking/wearing out in a month with my son. Our Target jeans last him until he grows out of them. So for watches and kids clothes I shop Target. For Star Wars, I have to say I support the evil empire.

Edit: Okay, I lied. I just saw the news on Sam's Club with the ARC 170, and I really like the ship, and with the clones and R2 unit for $30, I may have to get that.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2005, 09:18 AM
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As much as I hate Wal-Mart for their business practices and their destruction of small-town America, the point has to be conceded that in some areas, WM is all there is (partially due to the destruction of small-town America).  Target, to me at least and on a pure aesthetic level, is a much more pleasant place to shop because it is designed in such a way that your shopping can be done relatively easy.  No clutter in the middle of the main aisles, the regular aisles with stock are wide and easily negotiated, and above all, it's clean and the shelves are always neatly arranged.  When you have obsessive-compulsive cleanliness issues like I do, this is a big plus.

I agree with this.  My wife and I actually like shopping at Target quite a bit, aside from collectibles.  Probably our favorite store overall, but maybe we just have better luck at ours.  It seems like a lot of their home/other stuff is a step up in quality from Wal-Mart, and it isn't nearly the hassle to go there.  Wal-Mart is a necessary evil it seems though, we end up getting our groceries and stuff like that there, just because it is cheap and convenient.  I of course check out their toys as well when I'm there, but when possible, I try to give the business to Target.  For our Wal-Mart at least, it really is a huge pain to go there.  Always crazy busy, check out takes forever no matter how much you have, cleanliness is definitely not a priority, and the aisles are crammed with so much stuff (down the middle too) that it is nearly impossible to get through anywhere.  Couple that with the unavoidable, incredibly slow moving shoppers, Wal-Mart usually leads to the "urge to kill....rising" state of mind ;).

Anyways, back on topic here....I'm not too happy with the $40 pricepoint if this holds true.  I had planned on picking up one of these, and I still might, but that price will make me think twice.  $30 I could have stomached, $20-25 would have been even better, but $40 seems high...especially since there isn't any electronics included.  As far as the B-Wing....when that came out, I had been learning the "hard luck" of exclusives, by seeing both the Tatooine Skiff and Y-Wing, and thinking "I'll pick it up on the way out".  At this time we lived in a different area, and had to drive to a "city" about 45 minutes away to a Target, and this particular Target was part of a mall.  Anyways, I hadn't yet learned the ins and outs of Star Wars exclusives, so I stupidly thought twice about these and then of course missed them.  When the B-Wing was released, I bought it right away (they had plenty) at the full price of $40.  I would say not a month later they were being clearanced for $10-ish.  I suppose it all depends on the ship though.  With the more recent OTC Slave 1, I used the DCPI#, and got it during that little "sale" they had.  At that particular Target, I don't believe I ever did see them hit the floor (mine was brought from the back).  Then, at the other Target in town, they didn't have the Slave 1s out until well after the big OTC push, and when they were put on the floor they were clearanced from day 1 ($20-ish).  Anyways, I'd like to wait for clearance on this TIE, if possible.  I'd like to get one, but $40 does seem a little steep.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 22, 2005, 09:56 AM
At $40, I'll pick up one for sure to open. Anything beyond that is questionable. Depends on what else is being released at the time. I have to agree that this item will definately not move as well as other exclusives. At $50, a 12" speederbike is one thing, that's a big toy. The Tie fighter isn't big for $40, this will deter casual collectors, parents (of the non-collecting variety,) and scalpers.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jeff on August 22, 2005, 04:15 PM
Word on the street is that the TIE in stores now...

Time to write down that DPCI and start checking.!

TIE Fighter w/Figure
DPCI = 087-06-1496
$39.99
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JediMAC on August 22, 2005, 09:39 PM
So are we still saying this is from "The Saga Collection" (2006), or should we toss it in the ROTS forum?

What does everyone think?  Looks kinda like it's in "ROTS" styled packaging, but it's obviously not from ROTS.  I guess it's akin to the recent Target cup sets, huh?  Are those in the ROTS forum?  I think so...
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SilverZ on August 22, 2005, 11:35 PM
I say if it's ROTS-style packaging on a 2005 toy, it's for the ROTS forum.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 23, 2005, 01:38 AM
I concur.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jeff on August 23, 2005, 09:24 AM
Looks kinda like it's in "ROTS" styled packaging, but it's obviously not from ROTS.  I guess it's akin to the recent Target cup sets, huh?  Are those in the ROTS forum?  I think so...

I say if it's ROTS-style packaging on a 2005 toy, it's for the ROTS forum.

I concur.

Moved.



I checked a few MN Targets last night with the DPCI number, but alas, I found no new TIEs.   :'(
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 23, 2005, 10:10 AM
I don't know if it had been 100% confirmed, but the person who found this locally said that the Pilot included was indeed the first release POTF2 Pilot. Not the Saga Pilot and not even the revised POTF2 Pilot with articulated knees.

What a dissapointment, but not a surprise.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SilverZ on August 23, 2005, 01:01 PM
I was able to get 2 this morning using the DPCI#. They're two per case. Here's something incredibly lame -- since the boxes are shaped to the wings, there is a ton of empty space in the sides of the shipping carton that are not filled with padding. The case I was given was caved in on the side from having something sitting on top of it (I assume). One of the packages looked banged up because of it.  ::)

I had to race to work so I haven't even looked at them beyond pulling one out to have them scan it. I'll try to get pics up tonight.

$86.00 for two frickin' TIEs.  >:(
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jayson on August 23, 2005, 03:43 PM
Look at the size of that thing!

http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/4821-001.jpg
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 23, 2005, 05:23 PM
For the curious it comes in around 1/19 - 1/20 scale (not 1/18) however the measurements I got for height could definitely be off on some level since I've found some conflicting width measurements.

That's making it about right...  Pretty negligible differences.  I'm gonna pick one up to do some more comparing (if it's way off I'll just take it back), but it seems alright.

$40 alright?  Well that's another story all together.   ::)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SilverZ on August 24, 2005, 01:00 AM
Added some pics boxed and loose:

Big Mutha TIE (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Exclusives/TIE_Fighter_(Target))

It does seem pretty big, but right. The center is the same as the last KB exclusive version with the corrected back, and still has the 2003 copyright text.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ryan on August 24, 2005, 01:15 AM
And the Pilot was it POTF2 or SAGA? I assuming POTF2 from the pictures. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SilverZ on August 24, 2005, 01:19 AM
Ooh, sorry. Yes, it's POFT2 all the way. No knee joints even. That would have raised the retail to at least 49.99.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CorranHorn on August 24, 2005, 01:50 AM
Good pics Jared, have you compared the new TIE to the F/X X-Wing (or the various SAGA incarnations of it)? Are they relatively in scale? A pic would be cool.   ;)

I think I have an explanation why we got the crappy POTF2 TIE Pilot with the new TIE. Commonly, exclusive items are controlled by a subset of Hasbro, that at one point went by the name Hasbro Direct. They're responsible for all the store/con exclusives and if you have noticed over the last few years, all exclusives have in one way or another had several re-used pieces. A recent example would be the Jedi vs Sith Battle Pack exclusive to Target. A good chunk of the General Grievous is from the ROTS Preview wave and the Yoda is from the SAGA Youngling 2-pack. So I'm thinking, perhaps the person responsible for this new TIE at Hasbro Direct, or whatever they're calling themselves nowadays, was unaware of a better TIE Pilot figure and ordered the one that they were aware of, thus robbing us of the properly used SAGA TIE Pilot.

I know it's a bit of a stretch, but it might have some bearing on the situation. And though disappointing as it may be, on the plus side, if you're like me and keep your pilots in their ships, you'll have a hard time distinguishing which pilot is in the cockpit.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 24, 2005, 02:58 AM
WHOA! Just picked up this Tie tonite at Target. Totally satisfied...Can I just give thanks to JD-the awesome staffers here totally helped me get this ship tonite(Jared, Jeff-you guys rock). Last nite I wrote down the DCPI's that Jeff left and decided to try them at Target using Jared's plan. I ran into a little snag when.. the pricing machines at my store have no keypads- but luckily I found a toy clerk who checked the number( after looking at me like" where did you get this DCPI# you little ****" look he punched it in, went in the back and brought me the prize!

I was shaking at the checkout!- This ship alone was worth the 40 I killed on it just for the flashback it gave me-
It was about 1978/79 (I was 8,9)and my step dad and I were looking at a tie fighter in Kmart or JCPenny ..He said" Is this the one you want for your birthday, Jon?" I said "WHOAAA a Tie fighter, isn't it totally Baddo, Jay?" He said " Farm-OUT- Let's just not tell your Mom you're getting it for your B-day alright?" And then he gave that thumbs up sign like he always did. :)

Just getting this incredibly scaled ship took me back a step!   
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 24, 2005, 03:04 AM
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That would have raised the retail to at least 49.99.


heh   :D

Anyway, Jason I'd say (by the measurements I've heard) that the TIE is close to-scale if not accurate due to inaccurate numbers for ship dimensions in sourcebooks.  The FX X-Wing's 80% at best though if not slightly less, so the TIE's gonna look good with it if not a bit large actually.

At the price, I'll be lucky to get two...  I may just get one and hope for a sale if these are widely abundant around my area.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SilverZ on August 24, 2005, 03:18 AM
I was shaking at the checkout!- This ship alone was worth the 40 I killed on it just for the flashback it gave me-

Glad it worked out! There's something satisfying about beating Target's system. For the life of me I don't understand why they've managed to position themselves as an "enemy" of collectors, making it a challenge to even find thier exclusives (even when they are physically in the store). It feels like sweet victory when we get the items despite the roadblocks.

Yeah, Jason, I'd really like to take comp pics (both of the old and new TIEs and next to the PFX Xwing) but most of my stuff is in storage due to a move. I'm kinda improvising at the moment.

I can see Hasbro using the old figure as a cost-cutting move, and can also imagine that they're horrified at the pricepoint Target is selling this at. The OTC Pilot is certainly comprised of more parts -- maybe that was part of it. I'm with you though that for me, the pilot will just sit inside, so there's no harm in it being the older version. I'm not even really a fan of the OTC sculpt, anyhow.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 24, 2005, 03:35 AM
Jared- The older pilot had a flat black suit like this? I can't verify because I'm not in Northern Cal where my showroom is. ??? IMO The ship is too good -the pilot, that will be inserted in the ship anyway- is of minor importance. ::) 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 24, 2005, 10:33 AM

Yeah, Jason, I'd really like to take comp pics (both of the old and new TIEs and next to the PFX Xwing) but most of my stuff is in storage due to a move. I'm kinda improvising at the moment.


I'd love to see these, at least until I'm able to score a new Tie.

The pictures you took look nice though, definately in scale with itself. ;)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on August 24, 2005, 05:33 PM
Ok, I'm convinced by the pics that this thing is worth $40.00 to me.  It's just too huge to pass up.  I am going to want two of them as openers... I just can't pass up this item.  To me, it's not overpriced because I've been wanting this for years.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SpudTrooper on August 25, 2005, 01:15 AM
wait..dont really know if this was answered...but is this a Target exclusive  ???
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jeff on August 25, 2005, 01:25 AM
Isn't this TIE rumored to be a Target exclusive?  I thought I heard that somewhere.

I can't wait to become infuriated, I mean, shop, at Target for this.

Actually, yes - at the moment, it is planned to be a Target Exclusive item.  
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SilverZ on August 25, 2005, 02:14 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-05/tie_box.jpg)

Ummm... box 207 of 5000. Not to be an alarmist and make a speculation, but that's only 10,000 TIEs.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ryan on August 25, 2005, 02:28 AM
 >:(

That sucks. The know they are going to sell more than 10,000. I'm sure they sold more than 10,000 gunships. And there are people that will be buying multiples of these. Stupid Hasbro. >:(
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 25, 2005, 02:44 AM

Ummm... box 207 of 5000. Not to be an alarmist and make a speculation, but that's only 10,000 TIEs.



Stupid Hasbro. >:(


You could probably blame Target more than Hasbro on this one.  I wouldn't doubt that Target said they only wanted 10,000 to be sure they didn't get stuck with any extras and Hasbro simply followed through on the order.

Just my guess though.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on August 25, 2005, 09:46 AM
I'm really getting sick of Target fast.  They seem to be endorsing SCALPING with these damn exlusives.  Really, there's no reason for all of these damn exclusives, and such limited runs with them.  Good Lord.  I really am sick of them now.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 25, 2005, 09:52 AM

You could probably blame Target more than Hasbro on this one.  I wouldn't doubt that Target said they only wanted 10,000 to be sure they didn't get stuck with any extras and Hasbro simply followed through on the order.


If the 10,000 number is, in fact, true, this kind of confuses me as it goes against one of Hasbro's most-used mantras: that of a retail partner ordering enough of a particular item to justify the tooling and mold costs. 

Since this is a ship that (partially) had to be done from scratch, Hasbro would have required a rather large order to create said molds going by their rationale.  An order of 10,000 just doesn't seem like it would be enough to me (although I could very well be wrong on that count) to justify creating the new wings, packaging, etc.  Earlier Target exclusives, such as the OTC Slave I, and the Lava Vader and Neyo Clone action figures, were simple repaints, and additional cost was minimal (even the OTC Slave I's extra guns/launchers had already been tooled back in 2002).  Each of these were made in excess of 10,000 (I would guess; I don't have the Lava Vader in front of me to check, but wasn't it 1 of 50,000?) and I would imagine didn't require much in the way of financial resources to be dedicated to them outside of the packaging.

This is all just speculation and wishful thinking on my part, but I'm really hoping that 10,000 is just an initial shipment and that there will be another shipment in a month or so with more of these.  Otherwise, it is going to be an absolute nightmare/scalper's paradise to get even one of them, what with Target's recent thinly veiled contempt toward the people who shop there.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jayson on August 25, 2005, 10:24 AM
I think the amount invested on the Big H's part is minimal. They are producing 10,000 TIEs but that's actually 20,000 (new) wings.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 25, 2005, 10:31 AM
Potential limited quantity does stink. What's that work out to? Less than 10 per store? Also, I would assume the order can be left open ended.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jeff on August 25, 2005, 10:58 AM
Well, 10,000 isn't unheard of for a store exclusive.  The FAO Shuttle was limited to only 5000 and the Target Skiff was limited to 15,000.

10k seems pretty low since with 1350 stores that works out to only 6-8 per store.  :(

Hopefully, the 5000 boxes is only the first order/batch and that more will be coming later...
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 25, 2005, 02:38 PM
Way to freak us all out Jared! ;) Well glad I got mine already, phew!

I'll bet there IS still alot of profit in this-The retooling is only the initial stage for a new product-next the longer manufacturing/assembly line molds is where the big H saves their production cost-good point about the wings- I can definately see Target(with their incredible mark-up) making alot off of this run.
C'mon if it wasn't beneficially for Hasbro to fill a 10K$ order, they would have never done it.

Hope every collector gets one.. but @ ?10,000? highley unlikely. If not don't wait to long down the road to get one of an auction because ..with potential limited run like this..it could suck(cost)

Not sure how 'golden' the box print means for this- it could be legit but..it could be the first shipment/production out of 2 waves-the later does sound unlikely though.

Way to get us going again J 8) 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SilverZ on August 25, 2005, 03:40 PM
Yeah, maybe it's an open order type thing, and that X/5000 is just an initial run. Maybe the number doesn't mean jack, too.

I'd also assume there's at least that same amount being done for ROW. It seems like such a small run for a core vehicle.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 25, 2005, 04:06 PM
I'd like to thank both Jeff and Jared, since both of them (unbeknownst to them) had a hand in me actually getting one of the TIEs from my local Target about 2 hours ago.  And here is why:

First of all, Jared's photo of the case and the X/5000 on its side caused my usually astronomical paranoia to go into overdrive.  I began to worry that the TIE would be like every other item that Target hasn't stocked since June, and I would end up missing out on it completely, overpriced or not.  So, Jared, thank you for fueling the paranoia to a point where I decided I needed to do something about it rather than take a wait and see approach.

Which brings me to Jeff, who was kind enough to post the DPCI numbers in another thread, and who was more or less the supplier of my means to find out about the stock status at this Target.  Since gas prices were so high, and after having made a rather lengthy round-trip yesterday for employment reasons, I didn't want to have to drive back out, so I decided to roll the dice and call Target's CS desk at the local store, and see if they could check the DPCI.

Long story short, the young lady who answered the phone checked the DPCI, said they had them ("If they're not on the shelves, we've got them in the back"), and that she would get one for me and hold it at the CS desk until I arrived.  An hour or so later, I was leaving Target with a brand-spanking new TIE Fighter, thanks to Jared's and Jeff's unwitting assistance.  If I ever meet you guys in person, I'm buying each of you a drink. :)

So, yeah, the ship itself as stated earlier is 39.99 (it's still overpriced) plus your state's share.  The figure is the POTF2 figure, and the wings are HUGE.  I was expecting them to be a little bigger, but once I saw the box in person, I had to try and keep my jaw off the floor.  After getting it assembled, it's even more impressively large.  And despite constantly being told that size doesn't matter, the size of the wings is 12.5 inches wide by 15.5 inches tall.  So it's significantly bigger than the vintage/POTF2/OTC versions and to my eyes, it's perfectly in scale for the first time ever.

The only sore point (aside from price and the POTF2 pilot) is the fact that one of the laser cannons on the front isn't completely painted on mine (the silver is missing, even though the red is still there).  But, as the TIE I got was pulled from the back storeroom for me, I didn't want to push my luck.

So, in summation, cool and huge toy, still horribly overpriced, Jared and Jeff get a free drink, and I'm broke. :)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Morgbug on August 25, 2005, 04:14 PM
Now that this is finally out and pics with something to scale it have been seen, I'll eat my words and say I'm surprised they got it right.  I'm not picky enough to get a new one though, unless I manage to stumble on it next time I'm in the states.  But I just can't see parting with $50 CAD for something, even if it is rescaled and in a window box. 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 25, 2005, 11:45 PM
Measurements compared to source material on TIE's say it's about 1:19 scale which since SW figures vary as to 1:18 scale (some are, some aren't, some aren't even in the friggin' ballpark) then I think 1:19-ish is fair to say it's dead-on in-scale.  This has me giddy.

I got one tonight, it's a worthy purchase though the price stings for sure.  I think it's a $30 ship but such is the life of a Target exclusive.  I think you'd pretty well be happy with this one Brent.

I wanna extend my thanks to Jeff and Jared for getting the DCPI #'s up too because that's the only way I had gotten this ship.

It's big...  Fun to kidna "fly" around if you know nobody's watching.  Looks like it would eat the FX X-Wing for breakfast too since that ship's not near 1:18 scale (always a disappointment  :-\ ).  With an A-Wing though, this'll look great...  That's where my TIE's heading.

TIE Bombers flanking it look great too.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 26, 2005, 11:42 PM
These are of course not good pics by any stretch but I work with what I have and what I have as far as cameras go is VERY little.  :)  It was free for god's sake!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Furious-George/TIEComparison2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Furious-George/TIEComparison1.jpg)

Not the best pics, like I said, but a little comparison of the TIE Fighter to the TIE Interceptor and TIE Bomber.  Sweeeet.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SpudTrooper on August 27, 2005, 12:12 AM
DAMN! that thing is huge  :o must be pretty heavy and worth the $40
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Diddly on August 27, 2005, 12:29 AM
I MUST have one!

*counts money*
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2005, 01:07 AM
The way the thing is packaged actually has it looking less wide than it actually is too.  This is what was throwing me off when eyeballing it in the box as to "scale".  Put together, it's quite nicely proportioned and you see the scale of it's much more accurate than it appears in the box.

The TIE Int and Bombers are scaled ships, so it's interesting seeing just how small they are compared to the Fighter but only due to the flat, large wings.  The Int's about half the height actually, but matches it in height by its length...  It's very interesting.  Shame I have more bombers than anything though.  I'd like 4 TIE Fighters actually, but not at $40 a pop. 

I'm hoping beyond hope that the 10k units is somehow false and that these things ship in such droves that a clearance is guaranteed.  Count me in for 3 more if they hit $30 and are easy enough to get ahold of.  It takes a LOT to get this kind of praise out of me for a Hasbro vehicle, but they managed.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CorranHorn on August 27, 2005, 01:22 AM
Good pics JJ, now take one with the F/X X-Wing! Hah just kidding, no need to, cause I got me a TIE Fighter tonight. Thanks to Jeff posting the DPCI number, I was able to ask a guy restocking the shelves to check his scanner if the TIE was in stock. It was and sure enough he brought one out for me. The box was dinged up pretty good though, but no matter, when I get home from work in the morning I'm pulling this toy out and getting it setup next to the X-Wing. Woo hoo!
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2005, 02:16 AM
Very cool...

I'm afraid it dwarfs the FX X-Wing in my view...  X-Wings are fair sized ships for fighters, as far as overall area they take up, though they're kinda compact in the actual ammount of "steel" there is going on there, but anyway the TIE's bigger suffice it to say just because it's like a big cube basically.

Looks sweet though... 

I wish Hasbro would just do resculpted to-scale vehicles and charge appropriately for them.  Scale AT-ST, Scale Snowspeeder, Scale Y-Wing, Scale X-Wing...  Forget about the "big" things like AT-AT's, Sandcrawler's or anything that isn't even made yet that's in the "just too big" and simply put out definitive versions of the ships they CAN acheive something great on.  This TIE Fighter just makes me long for that.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CorranHorn on August 27, 2005, 02:54 AM
JJ, So would you say then that the TIE's cost of $40 is justified?
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2005, 03:05 AM
Hmmm, that's tough.

From a "business" standpoint, no...  It's a $30 toy at best considering the cockpit and all the "complexities" are re-used bits and pieces.  The solar panels are simple single-pieces of plastic so I think $30 due to the shelf space is sufficient and "fair".

I think $40's ok if you've got it extra...  It's kinda like VOTC figures.  I don't think they're $10 figures.  They're $5 figures on what I look at as $5 worth of packaging (though I disagree with that price being the packaging's value, but you get what I'm saying).  I gladly spent the fundage on VOTC though because Il iked the figures so much...

The TIE's great, it's fun to have...  It's probably a more iconic ship for Star Wars than anything save for the Falcon.  It's not $40 great, but the $40 only makes me know I'll get the one...  If I'm lucky maybe one or two more on sale, but I doubt I get another full price one unless I again find that I can afford it.  This was an early B-Day gift for me, so I was fortunate in that.  I don't have the $40 to blow on it right now but having it, and having it opened here, I know I'd have spent $40 on it if I did have it.  ;D
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth Broem on August 28, 2005, 12:00 PM
Well I think I finally have the answer as to where my $30 Target gift card is going.  I just hope I can find it. 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 28, 2005, 12:07 PM
Thanks for posting the pictures Jesse! Now I know I definatley have to rescale my imperial base. :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 28, 2005, 12:56 PM
A local collector friend named Broc got one on Friday at a local Target also. They were not in the back but he used the DCPI # and the employee told him you had to have it and ask someone to go get it if you want one. A couple of other collectors here have done the same.
I'm passing because of price. It would come down to either the figures I wanted in the last 12 wave, or this, or give up my Epic LOTR figures or this, and I honesty want the figures. Perhaps some day.
I still think with a limited production run this will sit on the shelf. I know I picked up a Skiff after watching it sit for awhile on a shelf with a couple of friends.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DarthAcroyear on August 28, 2005, 09:20 PM
As a fan of all things TIE, I really hope that I am able to find one. Even if it is $40.00 plus tax.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on August 28, 2005, 09:32 PM
As a fan of all things TIE, I really hope that I am able to find one. Even if it is $40.00 plus tax.

Yep, I agree - to me this looks like it will be worth the $40.00.  And BTW, weclome to Jedidefender, it's nice to see you here.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ryan on August 28, 2005, 09:40 PM
I got mine yesterday. It is worth the $40, of course I'd had much rather paid $30 for it. :P If it had been $30 I'd be buying multiples. Not at $40 though. :(
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on August 28, 2005, 10:09 PM
Glad you found one Ryan... out of curiousity, did your Target store have several of them, or did you get the only one?

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DarthAcroyear on August 29, 2005, 04:34 AM
Yep, I agree - to me this looks like it will be worth the $40.00.  And BTW, weclome to Jedidefender, it's nice to see you here.   :)

 :P

Thank you for the invite! :)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Mister Skeezler on August 29, 2005, 10:22 PM
Well, I broke down and bought 2 of these (big) bad boys. Yeah, they're ******* expensive, and there's no justification for Target charging that much. However, it was easier for me to justify to myself, since I don't buy 2 of everything to have loose and carded. Plus, I don't buy useless repacks.

And my collection just feels more complete with this fighter. It really does look excellent.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ryan on August 29, 2005, 10:24 PM
Glad you found one Ryan... out of curiousity, did your Target store have several of them, or did you get the only one?

 :P

I bought the only case they had, a case has 2 TIEs in it. I kept one the other is going to Matt_Fury.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: proudfather2 on August 30, 2005, 01:54 PM
I checked all of my nearby, and not so nearby, Targets yesterday and none of them even had shelf tags for these. The one exclusive that I really want and I probably won't be able to find. It ******* figures! Hopefully the price on this will discourage at least one potential buyer thus allowing me to be able to find it eventually. ;)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Mister Skeezler on August 30, 2005, 02:12 PM
I checked all of my nearby, and not so nearby, Targets yesterday and none of them even had shelf tags for these. The one exclusive that I really want and I probably won't be able to find. It ******* figures! Hopefully the price on this will discourage at least one potential buyer thus allowing me to be able to find it eventually. ;)

Did you try giving them the SKU number? That's how I got mine, and I think alot of people are doing the same.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ryan on August 30, 2005, 02:58 PM
That's what I did too, you have to give the DCPI # to an employee though. The number was blocked out on the normal scanners for some reason.

They haven't put out a shelf tag at my stores either.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 30, 2005, 03:06 PM
Has anyone actually found these sitting on the shelf yet?  Just looking back over the last few pages of the thread, and I admit many of the purchases don't specify, it looks as if nearly everyone had to use the DPCI to get one or more of these. 

My point being is that if Target told Hasbro they wanted an item which would bring people into stores and buy more toys or any other items, and the only people who are getting them are those people who have the equivalent of the Target Super-Secret Handshake, it really doesn't do much for anybody outside of the internets.  Not that I'm complaining about the DPCI (I still owe Jeff and Jared their drinks), but isn't the point of having an exclusive to put it on the shelf and sell it, without making customers jump through red tape?

Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DarthAcroyear on August 30, 2005, 03:49 PM
Has anyone actually found these sitting on the shelf yet? 

I'm may have read somewhere that someone has but I'm not sure. Most people that I know who have one had to ask an employee and give them the DPCI #.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Mister Skeezler on August 30, 2005, 03:50 PM
That's what I did too, you have to give the DCPI # to an employee though. The number was blocked out on the normal scanners for some reason.

They haven't put out a shelf tag at my stores either.

D'oh! Yeah that's what I meant DCPI not SKU.

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Has anyone actually found these sitting on the shelf yet?  Just looking back over the last few pages of the thread, and I admit many of the purchases don't specify, it looks as if nearly everyone had to use the DPCI to get one or more of these.

My point being is that if Target told Hasbro they wanted an item which would bring people into stores and buy more toys or any other items, and the only people who are getting them are those people who have the equivalent of the Target Super-Secret Handshake, it really doesn't do much for anybody outside of the internets.  Not that I'm complaining about the DPCI (I still owe Jeff and Jared their drinks), but isn't the point of having an exclusive to put it on the shelf and sell it, without making customers jump through red tape?

I think everyone just ends up jumping the gun and requesting the exlcusive before they put it out on the shelves. I'm sure they would have put them out eventually.

Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 30, 2005, 07:09 PM
By giving the employees at the customer service desk the DPCI number that was how I was able to score my two TIEs this morning.

Took a while to get 'em brought out, but it was worth the 15 minute wait in the end.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 30, 2005, 08:44 PM
Yeah guys, use those DCPI #'s when you can.  Jot them in a tablet and keep it handy...  I now have a collecting notes tablet I keep in my car's visor for just these kinds of things. 

I've read someone finding them on the shelves, but only one person so far that I'm aware of in the general collecting community.  Got mine by asking a girl who probably wishes she hadn't asked me if I needed help finding something.

My method is usually to ask one person.  If denied, I go to another...  If denied, maybe another or at the very least I ALWAYS try the customer service person on the way out since they tend to be the most helpful.  In general the CSR's are better trained to be attentive to the wants/needs of a customer.

Also, may I suggest you lie if you really have to...  A classic I've used is, "Oh, I called and someone I talked to said to come down and they'd help me get this since it was in stock...  I live like an hour away so it's hard for me to get out here..."  blah blah blah

Not that that was a lie when I used it, but once I saw that it worked I've used it since and it's worked again.

Also, if your store is missing the scanners or they're broke, I used an employee's scanner gun once that they left in cart.  Likely get bitched at for that if you get caught, but hey...  whatever.

Don't let Target win.  They have been on my bad side lately, and even though I prefer them overall to Wal-Mart, I really think they're giving collectors a screw-job lately.  Perhaps it's to battle "scalpers", but I feel jipped lately and I know they're definitely spiking prices to where I don't want to bother shopping there.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 30, 2005, 08:54 PM
The Targets in my area must have locked Star Wars out of the system or something because every DCPI # I have (tie, evolutions, 5 pack, lava, stealth and COLLECTION 1) doesn't work in the scanner. :-\
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 30, 2005, 09:23 PM
Don't let Target win. They have been on my bad side lately, and even though I prefer them overall to Wal-Mart, I really think they're giving collectors a screw-job lately. Perhaps it's to battle "scalpers", but I feel jipped lately and I know they're definitely spiking prices to where I don't want to bother shopping there.

That's what I don't get about Target and how they are handling SW stuff right now.  They seem to be changing policies on a nationwide basis in order to thwart potential customers in their attempts to find what they are looking for.  Now, I can understand one local manager not caring for the toy collectors (who I would be willing to bet they all consider to be as annoying as the Hot Wheels folk) and being cold and standoffish, but doing it as a chain?

I had always been willing to shop at Target before I shopped at Wal-Mart for non-toy related stuff.  Target usually had the cheaper DVD prices on new release day, and even though their prices on food and personal hygiene products were a few cents higher, I justified the added cost because of Wal-Mart's corporate practices in general and shopped there instead.  Now, with Target basically adopting a "**** You" attitude toward SW collectors, I'm heavily debating not shopping there for my other needs anymore either. 

And that is what I think Target isn't thinking about when they block DPCI/DCPI (which is it?) access by customers, take out the price scanners in some areas completely, and basically make finding anything in the toy section a major league pain.  In their hypothetical moves to thwart the toy collectors, they are making people who do normal shopping there (like me) start to reconsider shopping there at all.  Not that Target cares, as retail is all about money, after all.

The problem with the TIE and any and every other 3.75 inch vehicle exclusive that Target has gotten over the years, going all the way back to the Skiff and Y-Wing in 1999, is that what should be readily available has never been so.  Every last one of their exclusive vehicles, in one way or another, has been a chore to get and often relied on "inside information" like the stock numbers to even know they had in the first place.  The fact is that we shouldn't have to use these numbers to find out their stock status, but Target's attitude that we aren't worth their effort has made it necessary, and that's distressing to me.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 31, 2005, 06:54 AM
Ok - so last night I finally got a really good look at this thing and all I can say is, it sucks.

The new panels, to me at least, aren't worth this thing being 2x the price of a OTC TIE Fighter that was released a year ago. It's not like they're more detailed or have a great paint op.

And what gives with the pilot figure? A POTF2 TIE Pilot?!?! And of course the back of the box shows the better articulated one that came out in Saga, OTC and with the TIE Inteceptor and KB TIE Fighter exclusives.

So in my opinion, if the TIE Fighter wings meant a $20 increase in price for what Hasbro had to charge for this item, then they never should have done it in the first place and made Target pick a different vehicle if they wanted an OT Vehicle exclusive - like the cloud car.

Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 31, 2005, 10:15 AM
The Targets in my area must have locked Star Wars out of the system or something because every DCPI # I have (tie, evolutions, 5 pack, lava, stealth and COLLECTION 1) doesn't work in the scanner. :-\

Seems every time I open my mouth, the opposite happens. I asked an employee to look up the number and sure enough, they had some in back.

I don't know Pete, I can't say that it sucks yet. Sure, the POTF2 Pilot is a huge let down, especially since the Saga one is pictured on the back, but the ship is more important to me. The wings are huge! They seem to me a bit over scaled, at least when compared to the cockpit. It's going to take some getting use to.

Anyone notice in the contents that the box says 4 wing panel pieces? Also, how about the recycling of the old Tie instructions (old small panels?) Funny.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jim on August 31, 2005, 10:30 AM
Saw it.  Left it.  No way this can be justified at this price.  Its going to sit then clearance.  Exclusives are shaping up to ruin this whole hobby.  How many kids can afford a $40 piece of plastic?  A boy about 10 wanted one of these last night and even the parent had sticker shock and said no way, then thought the price may of been incorrect.  Big letdown for the boy when I said that was the price. 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 31, 2005, 10:43 AM
Oh yeah, here's a story from RS that I thought was sad and lame. Someone claims that they bought two and when they got them home, they noticed someone has swiched out the new panels with the old ones. Now, come on! How can you not notice that? Lame.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 31, 2005, 03:41 PM
The local Target at which I got the TIE last week using the DCPI actually had two of these sitting on the shelf earlier today when I went by there looking for the Nip/Tuck Season 2 DVD set (which Target was sold out of, naturally).  There was no shelf tag for them, and they were just kind of shoved onto the bottom shelf where the lightsabers and Grievous silly string guns were, but it was surprising to see them there, nonetheless.

Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 31, 2005, 03:47 PM
I've done lots of measuring and comparing.  Trust me Anton, it's about as close to-scale as Hasbro's ever been.  It measures when compared to dimensions I have from source material at about 1:19 scale rather than 1:18 but given Hasbro's lack of scale on figures (plus them being generally SLIGHTLY shorter than 1:18 anyway) this puts the ship pretty much spot on.  The cockpit is good too compared to what I have for it.  ILM pictures of the model compare nicely to the old Kenner design.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Mister Skeezler on August 31, 2005, 05:04 PM
I'm very happy with the way this ship looks. The scale in relation to the fx X-Wing doesn't bother me either. The price however, sucks.

Can anyone remember offhand which kind of TIE escorts Vader's Lamda shuttle at the beginning of ROTJ? Are the TIEs or TIE/in?
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 31, 2005, 07:01 PM

Can anyone remember offhand which kind of TIE escorts Vader's Lamda shuttle at the beginning of ROTJ? Are the TIEs or TIE/in?

They were regular TIEs (if the TIE/in you are referring to is the TIE Interceptor).  IIRC, the first TIE Interceptor didn't appear on screen until the Emperor's arrival at the second Death Star.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on August 31, 2005, 11:54 PM
Indeed, the Interceptors were only noticeable during his arrival in the 4-ship flight diamond formations.  Bombers and Fighters abounded too.

I always thought it funny that  they snuck another fighter design into the final battle but didn't give it too much prominence or importance to show it as a superior ship in any way...  Funny little detail work that the classic trilogy was notoriously great at showing.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Nathan on September 1, 2005, 12:31 AM
Forgive the pedantic technical digression....

The TIE/ln (that's a lowercase L I think) is the "basic" squared-off TIE seen in abundance in the films. I'm not sure what the ln stands for, but it signifies a technological evolution from the earlier T.I.E. and TIE models.

The Interceptor is a different ship entirely.

Returning to your regularly scheduled thread.....
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 1, 2005, 12:14 PM
Thanks Valin, but in this case I was just abbreviating TIE Interceptor (TIE/IN).
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jeff on September 1, 2005, 06:57 PM
Well, I finally managed to find a MN Target that had TIEs in the back. (thanks again to the DPCI trick  ;))

I've seen the pics of this thing on the net, but WOW!  This TIE is friggin HUGE compared to the old ones.  It was much easier forking over the $40 for it since it is much bigger than I was expecting, even after seeing the pictures on-line!

Glad to have another exclusive tucked away... bring on the Target Clone stuff I guess!  :-\
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 1, 2005, 09:07 PM
Thanks Jessie! I've been looking at some models as well. It is pretty much right on.

After looking at it in my office over the last two days, I'm just plain impressed and the more I look at it, the less the $40 bugs me. If another company had made this at this size and charged $40, I probably would have bought it just to have one or two in scale, so the fact that Hasbro produced this is bugging me less and less.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on September 1, 2005, 10:26 PM
Yeah, the quality of it as a final "result" is what keeps me from being too upset at the $40, but at the end of the day if I was doing a review on this I know I'd be listing the cost and pilot as 2 pretty big negatives ultimately.  If it was $30 though I'd not be questioning my desire to buy a 2nd one right now.

This TIE shows me how utterly wasteful the Sandcrawler was though.  That thing was a double whammy though since it included a droid most people wanted (I know I did).  I was fortunate to find a friend to literally GIVE me the pack-ins from that though as he was using his SC for miniatures gaming (good use, and good justification then).  It's that kinda stuff though that makes me wish if Hasbro did pack stuff in, that it was not new in any way.   :-\
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: proudfather2 on September 3, 2005, 10:02 AM
I checked all of my nearby, and not so nearby, Targets yesterday and none of them even had shelf tags for these. The one exclusive that I really want and I probably won't be able to find. It ******* figures! Hopefully the price on this will discourage at least one potential buyer thus allowing me to be able to find it eventually. ;)

Did you try giving them the SKU number? That's how I got mine, and I think alot of people are doing the same.

Thanks for your help LandotheScoundrel,  it got me one! I won't bore anyone with the story but I do have to say that, despite the fact that this ship has a heftier price tag and doesn't come with the pictured Pilot figure (what does it matter if you're going to keep him in the cockpit anyway), it still kicks ass! The PROPER scale wings are spectacular and makes this vehicle one of the best offerings in a long, long time! OT fans WILL NOT be dissapointed to add this to their vehicle collection. It is stunning when put next to any of the newer X-Wings.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 3, 2005, 11:11 AM
It is stunning when put next to any of the newer X-Wings.

Hmmm... The SAGA Red Leader X-Wing is the only vehicle I have ever opened - the new scale just begged for the box to be opened (I only own a handful of vehicles).  After hearing you compare the new TIE to that X-Wing, I think I may have to get my hands on one of these to be hung from the ceiling in a dogfight display!
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SpudTrooper on September 3, 2005, 11:54 AM
i GOT IT!!!  ;D

very nice and HUGE.  8)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth Broem on September 3, 2005, 12:03 PM
I did find it the other day but did not have my Target gift card with me to purchase.  Which is probably why I found it.  But yes that thing is certainly HUGE!  Of course they put the item on the highest shelf possible so that I could not get my hands on it.   Damn my short height!
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 3, 2005, 12:06 PM
Of course they put the item on the highest shelf possible so that I could not get my hands on it.   Damn my short height!

Oh, do I feel your pain.  I'm 29 and still waiting for my teenage growth spurt.  Do you think there's any chance?   :'(   ;)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 3, 2005, 02:43 PM
It is stunning when put next to any of the newer X-Wings.

Hmmm... The SAGA Red Leader X-Wing is the only vehicle I have ever opened - the new scale just begged for the box to be opened (I only own a handful of vehicles).  After hearing you compare the new TIE to that X-Wing, I think I may have to get my hands on one of these to be hung from the ceiling in a dogfight display!

Do it! You won't be dissapointed. ;D
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on September 4, 2005, 12:41 AM
I've gone to 3 different Targets probably 9 of the past 10 days looking for one of these.  Damnit.  I should just ask an employee about the DCPI number I guess.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Rob on September 5, 2005, 02:34 AM
I got mine at the first store I went to using the DCPI.

And I like the new wings very much.  Even though the price was way too high - for $40.00 we should at least get the better pilot.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 5, 2005, 10:47 AM
I got mine at the first store I went to using the DCPI.

And I like the new wings very much.  Even though the price was way too high - for $40.00 we should at least get the better pilot.

Ohmigod, I had no idea this was $40.  ****.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Brian on September 6, 2005, 09:04 AM
Still no sign of the TIEs around here.  One of our Targets has the DCPI scanner, and I checked it this weekend, and none in stock/stockroom.  Things tend to run a little bit behind at that Target anyways though, so hopefully it is still coming.  Really not much new Star Wars wise for quite awhile around here, a bit of a drought I guess.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 6, 2005, 11:17 AM
Really not much new Star Wars wise for quite awhile around here, a bit of a drought I guess.

Same here, with TRU, KB, Target.  Target hasn't put out anything new since June.  Walmart has been outstanding though, the lone shining light.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on September 6, 2005, 03:14 PM
I agree.  If it wasn't for Walmart, I might not even collect Star Wars figures.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Brian on September 6, 2005, 03:37 PM
Its been different here, although no store has been very spectacular for the past few weeks.  The last new figures I found (Antilles, Zett, Utapaun Warrior) was at Target, but that was awhile ago.  I also found the 500th Vader and Anakin Evolutions set at the same Target, but those have no shown up at Wal-Mart too (although the evolutions are sold out at both now I think).  Basic figures have been in a dry spell everywhere lately though, but Target does seem to have more room to restock soon.  Wal-Mart's Star Wars pegs are literally overflowing with the usual suspects (Neimodian, Palpy, Clone Pilot, Mas, etc.) and unless those get clearanced out, I don't see that changing.  But, like I said, no store has been very strong lately.  Absolutely no sign of the Obi-Wan Pilot wave, the clone repaints, or other Evolution sets anywhere.  I'm becoming a little concerned about those, as well as the "Final 12" wave...and also getting the rest of the ROTS cleared off the pegs for the new line in 2006.  We'll see though, I don't think the pegwarming problem is near what it was for AOTC and TPM though, at least around here.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 6, 2005, 04:09 PM
If it wasn't for Walmart, I might not even collect Star Wars figures.

 :P

Well, we wouldn't aquire them at retail anyhow.  One thing I know proof positive without a doubt, you and I are both addicts and junkies, and we are not alone by any means in these forums.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on September 6, 2005, 04:25 PM
True, but over the past 10 years I know that at least 95% of the stuff I've found has been at Walmart.  Back in college from 1996-1998 was probably the determining factor of my collecting Star Wars to the extent I do now.  And if it wasn't for Walmart's cheaper prices and better selection, I would have just given up before I got in over my head like I have now.   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on September 7, 2005, 02:54 AM
For me I'd say Target and WM have run neck & neck (and with Target now getting the variant Clones they'll likely be making a comeback against WM for me).  TRU's been the odd duck out this time around, but not terribly so.  I've bought there just not nearly as much...  KM and KB I've bought nothing unless it was nicely priced or exclusive.  They've been rough to stomach during E3's toy run.

The tide between Target and WM shifts.  Recently found the Pilot Obi wave in its entirety at WM and that's cool...  The last things I got at Target were SA Clones though a while back but they were the only ones with anything at that time.  Seems like when one's dry the other isn't...  TRU mixes in there too as I found a lotta stuff there now that I think about it, but ind ribs and drabs.  Never hitting the motherload like I would at other stores.

I wish KM were more competitive as they have often had stuff but at nearly $8 a figure. 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Phrubruh on September 7, 2005, 10:44 AM
Funny. Down in southern california, Target far out ranks walmart for having star wars stuff. Walmart typically has bare shelves around here for most of their toys. Target always keeps them stocked with mostly frog warriors. >:(

At $40 for a new TIE, I'm going to be skipping this one. I havn't bought a new ship since the preview anakin starfighter.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Nathan on September 7, 2005, 12:01 PM
I saw this in person for the first time yesterday--one was just sitting out on the shelf.

It looks really cool--just not $40 worth of cool. I might have even paid $30 for it, but as it is I'll just hope it goes on clearance. :-\
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Phrubruh on September 7, 2005, 12:34 PM
It's weird how Target hasn't had any clearances on ep3 stuff at all. They just keep raising the price then lower it again back to its original level. That is why there are so many frogs on the pegs.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 7, 2005, 01:31 PM
Funny. Down in southern california, Target far out ranks walmart for having star wars stuff. Walmart typically has bare shelves around here for most of their toys. Target always keeps them stocked with mostly frog warriors. >:(


Maybe at your 'part' of southern california- in my part east of the san bernardino mtns Wal Mart is King- Sure we go to Target for exclusives but Wal Mart is where I've spent 80% of my money this year.

I STILL havn't seen the last wave 54-56 appear at either of our target stores, however- at our Wal Marts they're pegwarming for 4 weeks now, including 48-53 even #41's, bacaras ect. The Wal Mart pegs are finally starting to thin after the product has been sitting there for 4 weeks. Good luck to Target in getting sales on 54-56 since everyone in the Antelope Valley has plenty. All my EVO's at WM..WAYYYY before Target's hit

I'd say my area ratio in money spent looks like this WM 80%, Target 12%, TRU 4%, Kmart 3%, Kay B 1%
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Phrubruh on September 7, 2005, 01:55 PM
Sure. The OC goes to Target. The 909 dirt people shop at Walmart.

Wait a minute, my area code is 909. Fortunately chino hills doesn't consider itself part of SB county except in tax rates.  We're just a suburb of Brea. ;D
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 7, 2005, 05:24 PM
"dirt people"

those 909...what do they work in a mine? I surely can believe you didn't mean ...what like you're better than them? Are you "clean people"?

Was Count Dooku your favorite Sw character..I'm just wondering... ???

Are you just grumpy that you're a year older today?  ;)
Because these insulting posts have been piling up
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SpudTrooper on September 7, 2005, 06:13 PM
play nice boys  8)

i can say for both areas since i got to school in the OC and live in DB. Target is the best in the OC since there are less Walmarts there. i think theres one near Disneyland and i only been there once and it had nothing.

on the other hand, near the 909/626 area, it seems Walmart is getting more new stuffs than Target. but remember, Walmart had NOTHING prior to the BIG July clone variant hit and only Target had sum stuff.

plus i also think Target now are really strict with their "collectibles" in both areas. Walmart employees just dont care only to fill the pegs.

wait ..this is a topic concerning about the TIE Fighter  ::) oops
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on September 8, 2005, 10:30 PM
I found one today, thank God.  It really is impressive, and is my favorite vehicle since the larger scaled X-Wing.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 9, 2005, 12:35 PM
I found one today, thank God.  It really is impressive, and is my favorite vehicle since the larger scaled X-Wing.

 :P

Now the question is, how many are you going to get? ;)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JohnH on September 10, 2005, 12:04 AM
I don't even collect newer SW stuff anymore (just vintage for me), but I was so stoked to see Hasbro was finally making a TIE with the correct scaled wings.  I visited a Target in the KC area yesterday, and the nice fella in toys made a trip to the stockroom to pull some out.  To me it's well worth the $40.  The only gripe I have is that the wing supports are a bit loose, and because of this it doesn't stand 100% straight up unless you work to get it just right.  Very minor detail though.  Packing in the Saga Pilot instead of the POTF2 Pilot would have been nice, but again I find that to be a very minor detail as I never saw anything wrong with the POTF2 version anyway. 

Kudos to Hasbro for a job well done.  I might even have to get one of the larger-scale X-Wings to go with it.  (Anyone got a cheap one they want to sell me?)   :P

John
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on September 10, 2005, 12:54 AM
I don't like the price, but it's not deterring me from wanting a 2nd TIE to at least have a flanking flight of 2.   :-\  The ship is just that good.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 10, 2005, 08:49 PM
So, any ideas about what to do with the multiple 1995 mold TIEs that most of us have that were issued about 4 times that look like crap next to the new one?
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on September 10, 2005, 09:24 PM
Anton, I'd love to get a second one.  I'll stop at two of them though.

I think it's a great ship, and one hell of a display item.  It's so damn tall that it's almost overwhelming.  Kudos to Hasbro for making this, but it does suck that they seem to be so rare.

Dressel, I only have one of the old version, and it's going to my wife's classroom for her kiddos to play with.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 10, 2005, 09:47 PM
So, any ideas about what to do with the multiple 1995 mold TIEs that most of us have that were issued about 4 times that look like crap next to the new one?

Do what I'm doing with mine:  Stick a TIE Pilot inside and give it to an underprivileged child this holiday season.  Our trash could bring a lot of happiness to someone else.   :)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 11, 2005, 12:31 AM
Well played Michael- I suppose to the Kids survived from the Hurricanes who've lost everything :)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on September 11, 2005, 09:31 AM
That's kinda what I'm doing with my old one as it's going to that classroom.  It's a class room for mentally disabled children, who most of them are considered very lower class families.  Every once in a while, I'll give her about 10 or so loose figures to bring to her classroom.  It's a small class.  Sometimes she'll let them keep the figures, but she keep some in a toy box for them too.

I gave her one of the nice FX Xwings once, and they lost the guns to it within a week.   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Reid on September 11, 2005, 01:46 PM
I picked up the new TIE today at Target. **** this thing is huge. Is it worth the $40? The new wings and the pilot would probably make the origianol $20 price tag go up to about $30 so i'd say no.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Brian on September 12, 2005, 09:27 AM
I saw a couple of these at Target this past weekend, but wasn't able to pick it up quite yet.  Hopefully they will still be there after payday this week.  Just looking at it on the shelf though, man it really is as HUGE as everyone has been saying.  I couldn't believe how big it looked, they had the boxes sitting sideways on the shelf just to fit them in their allotted space.  Looked pretty nice though, and although my wife probably doesn't understand why I need ones just because it has different wings ;)...I hope to get one in the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on September 12, 2005, 11:37 AM
I think it's the best vehicles in 2005... either that or the ARC-170.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 12, 2005, 12:13 PM
I think it's the best vehicles in 2005... either that or the ARC-170.

I think that pretty much all of the vehicles this year in the 20 and up range have been stellar and well worth the money.  I've become a huge fan of the ROTS Jedi Starfighters, and the Droid Tri-Fighter was a favorite from the moment I got it.  The TIE has the coolness factor going for it, as well as the accuracy factor, and aside from a few minor points (the POTF2 pack-in which didn't bother me that much honestly, and the inflated price), I think it continues the trend of great vehicles this year.

A question for everyone though:  I know I mentioned earlier in this thread that one of the cannons on my TIE was partially unpainted (one is silver with a red tip and the other just has the red tip on the unpainted blue plastic) and I wondered if it was a factory error on mine.  The other day, I was looking at the photos accompanying the GH review (presumably of Mike Sullenger's TIE) and his had this same "flaw."  Does everyone else's TIE have this same problem, and if so, is it really a flaw in the toy and not an accuracy that I just never noticed on the film props themselves?
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: CHEWIE on September 12, 2005, 02:24 PM
I believe that all of them have that weird paint on the red blasters on the front.  Mine does, a friend of mine has one like that too, and I seem to recall seeing all of the OTC ones with the same paint application on the blasters.

 :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Ryan on September 12, 2005, 07:45 PM
Yeah, both my OTC and my new one have that cannon error deal, too.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SilverZ on September 12, 2005, 08:06 PM
A question for everyone though:  I know I mentioned earlier in this thread that one of the cannons on my TIE was partially unpainted (one is silver with a red tip and the other just has the red tip on the unpainted blue plastic) and I wondered if it was a factory error on mine.  The other day, I was looking at the photos accompanying the GH review (presumably of Mike Sullenger's TIE) and his had this same "flaw."  Does everyone else's TIE have this same problem, and if so, is it really a flaw in the toy and not an accuracy that I just never noticed on the film props themselves?

I know that at least one of the earlier versions (the KB exclusive, perhaps) was the same. I remember noticing it and thinking that mine had an error, but it turned out to be by design, and every ship had the same paint deco.  So I'm assuming this is the intentional design, one silver with red, one just red. I don't get it either. I think it just looks wrong.

I think this calls for Jesse James and his infinite knowledge of all things detail and accuracy related.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on September 13, 2005, 12:49 AM
Heh, I'm blushing at my respected nerdiness.  :-[

Anyway, here's a frontal shot from the film... 

(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/chron/tieball1.jpg)

I took the image from Tech Commentaries, which if you need an anal-retentive detail answered they've generally got the best info (if they covered the material).  They tend to try to "explain" things too in Earth terms without just having leeway for it being a film, having mistakes, etc., but they do inspect stuff closely so they're a good resource for that at least.

Here's what it says about the TIE Lasers:

Quote
Close-up views of the cockpit balls of a standard TIE fighter and a TIE X1. The laser cannons are the twin apertures immediately beneath the main viewport. The cannons on the X1 end in orange structures which were used on all the fighters based at the first Death Star. The laser cannons of TIEs in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi are simpler and colourless.

Now, typical anal behavior, they're trying some kind of explanation with it like it was a difference in fighter design between the films.  Obviously it's simpler than that and the vacuformed fighters in ESB and Jedi just missed some details because they realized the models from the first film had more detail, etc.

Anyway, it appears that no matter what, the new sculpt laser piece on the TIE Fighters has (it's modded from the vintage sculpt noticeably to remove the light-up feature) some detail flaws.  I didn't even notice this till it was brought up by you guys.  It's a little detail and looks weird if you stare at it, but I'd go past it pretty much.

I like the fighter though it's not without flaw...  If I were to review it I could certainly pick it apart for what they COULD have fixed for us for $40. :)  Hell, evne for $30 little stuff coudl get fixed just because, but $40 it was and I'd still buy a 2nd at that price...  Sad to say.    :-\
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: SilverZ on September 13, 2005, 03:49 AM
Wow, thanks Jess.  8) It's just an odd thing for Hasbro to have latched on to at some point and followed through with release after release. It just looks so... odd.

I found more of the TIEs on the shelf Sunday morning, and oh boy, it is impossible to pass up. I picked up a box, held it for a while, then thought about the price, winced, and put it back down. As I walked away, the thought of two accurately scaled TIEs flanking Vader's TIE popped into my head and I had to go back and get it.

So, that's a total of $120 plus tax Hasbro and Target have made off my weak soul. As much as I hate the price, I hope the positive that comes from this is definitive proof that OT vehicles, when done properly, can be successful and that fans will pony up the cash to buy them. This ship was a no-brainer and it should have happened long ago.

Now we need a Cloud Car now. Pack 2 OTC CC Pilots in and I'll be all over it.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 14, 2005, 10:06 AM


So, that's a total of $120 plus tax Hasbro and Target have made off my weak soul. 

Well Jared, that's something you and I have in common. :-[
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 14, 2005, 01:42 PM
Can someone clear something up for me?  Is this a Target exclusive or not?  I was under the impression that it's supposed to be available everywhere.

 ???
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jeff on September 14, 2005, 01:54 PM
Can someone clear something up for me?  Is this a Target exclusive or not? 


Lazy Canadians...  ::)

Isn't this TIE rumored to be a Target exclusive?  I thought I heard that somewhere.

I can't wait to become infuriated, I mean, shop, at Target for this.

Actually, yes - at the moment, it is planned to be a Target Exclusive item.  

Yes, it's a Target Exclusive...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-05/tie_box.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 14, 2005, 02:04 PM
Well, then get your ass to Target and buy me one then.   ::)   :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 14, 2005, 08:01 PM
Well, I went to Target after work today and there they were, 2 Target Exclusive TIE Fighters.  I put both in my cart, and off I went.

And back I came.  Out of the cart and back onto the shelf.  I just got pissed that I had to shell out $87 for 2 ships that should probably be in the $20-30 range each.  I hate Target and their stupid exclusives, their Target clones, lava this and that and those Target clones for $12.99 that they held completists hostage on.  They're really starting to remind me of FAO with these prices and their bull****.  I do not want to support them at all, and honestly, this ship is not worth $43 to me.

Screw it, I'm not buying it.

Oh, and why the 1995 TIE pilot is packed into a ship 11 years later when we got a sweet TIE pilot last year, is beyond me.  That just frosted the cake.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 14, 2005, 08:44 PM
I agree with Rebel, **** Target & their lame ass exclusives.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 18, 2005, 03:34 AM
Jeff was kind enough to grab one of these bad boys and send it in the mail today - I can't wait to get my hands on it!

Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 18, 2005, 10:50 AM
I can't wait to get my hands on it!



Target said the same thing about your money.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jim on September 18, 2005, 10:59 AM
I picked one up the other day and was quite disappointed.  Its going back unless someone on the boards needs one. The wings are much to wide IMO and all in all it just dont look right to me.  Plus the price is a joke :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on September 18, 2005, 02:01 PM
We were shopping yesterday, and unless I am on the hunt, we don't shop at Walmart (only for SW figures). Anyway, so we went to 2 Targets looking for a new Pokemon video game for my son (not out yet). Anyway, at one Target I found 2 of the  Tie's and looked it over. If it was $20 to $25 I would have bought it. Not worth it at $39.99.  The next Target we went to, I found four on the shelf. I know one of the Toy Dept workers there and asked him how they were selling. He went into the back and said, looks like we sold about 6 the first week, but only 1 this week.
I believe in the end this vehicle  will do what the other Target exclusives have done; sit on warm the shelf. The initial collectors who want em have gotten em, and now the ones that are there and in the back will sit (an occasional one will sell still I beleive). Then we Target puts them on clearance they will fly off the shelves. Very typical of a Target exclusive ship. So I am willing to gamble and wait. I may be wrong and if so, no biggie as I really am not into vehicles. My son would like one, but like my wife said, "I'm not going to spend some $40 on a ship, that's a tank of gas almost." And that is my final point. I don't think  most kids parents are going to buy these, which will ensure these sit at the current price. 
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 18, 2005, 02:58 PM
I don't think  most kids parents are going to buy these, which will ensure these sit at the current price. 

I would agree with this if they had a larger than 10,000 piece run. I've seen lots around here, but they don't sit for more than a day. I'm sure in some areas, some will hit clearance, but I think that that will be the exception, not the rule. But I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2005, 12:57 AM
They're not sitting around here, but they're also not hard to spot either I'm finding.

I got mine using the DPCI before they were to be out, then I saw a shelf full of them, and I was able to get a 2nd one.  THe same target is full of them again...  I've gotten one case's worth, and there's been a steady push at this somewhat out of the way Target store, so I dunno.

Great ship...  Enough of them shipping, I can see it starting to back up, but I don't know how they're spreading out the current grouping.  Seems like htis rather slow-traffic store got quite a few in though which strikes me as odd if it's a really limited run, but whatever.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 19, 2005, 04:03 AM
I can't wait to get my hands on it!



Target said the same thing about your money.

So be it.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Brian on September 19, 2005, 09:04 AM
I saw these again this weekend, at our other Target in town.  Two on the shelf.  I found them a week or two earlier at our "closer" Target, and those have since sold.  I don't know how long these two have been at this particular Target though.  I want to pick one up, but money's tight, and $40 does seem a bit high anyways.  I'm hoping for a clearance too, or I might eventually pick it up when there's a little more collecting cash.  Right now I'm saving that for the last few basic figures I need, and the Evolutions sets...if they ever show up here ;).
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Gatillo on September 19, 2005, 09:06 AM
This ship is not bad, it looks weird because it was done the way it was supposed to be done.  But is it a nice ship.  I personally don't think there is enough plastic inside that box to justify the $40.  But I would have gotten a few at $30 and when it goes on clearance, I'll get some for sure.  After all, they are warming the shelves pretty nicely in my area (at all 4 Targets)

Just like I did with the 12" Biker Scout, B-wing, Slave 1, A-wing, and the Target Clones.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 19, 2005, 12:58 PM
You know, I was just thinking about what if the price was lower? How many of these would I buy? I think they're great ships, but they are huge and take up a lot of space, so even if they were at a lower price point, I don't think I could pick up more than I bought already. And frankly, I don't have room enough for the ones I have. :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jeff on September 19, 2005, 01:57 PM
You know, I was just thinking about what if the price was lower? How many of these would I buy? I think they're great ships, but they are huge and take up a lot of space, so even if they were at a lower price point, I don't think I could pick up more than I bought already. And frankly, I don't have room enough for the ones I have. :P

Yeah I agree.  Even if they were only $30, I would have still only bought one.  I know others here probably would have bought more though at a cheaper price...

As for the $40 price tag, in the end it doesn't really bother me.  Of course I wish they were cheaper (who doesn't), but I guess I kinda understand it.  I figure, to get the correct cockpit, it cost me $30 plus shipping from KB, so to pay another $40 to get the new wings, it just the price I have to pay I guess. 

Sure, I could be all noble and say I hate it, but in the end I'm a sucker who paid the asking price so I've really got no place to complain.  If I really hated the price, I would have had the courage to pass on it.   :-\

Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: MetalJedi on September 19, 2005, 05:08 PM
Saw my first one today. Meh. They'll shelfwarm. Maybe I'll pick one up if they go on clearance.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2005, 09:49 PM
I'm gonna get a 3rd if they hit clearance.  Gotta love the ship, but it pained me to get two of them at the full price.  I just wanted a flanking "set" for a Vader TIE.  If these are sitting at all it makes me wonder if 10k is really the production number or if there's actually a bit of a higher total there.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Reid on October 10, 2005, 09:45 AM
A pair of TIEs have been shelfwarming at all three Targets near me. I doubt a mother would want to pick this huge, $40, vehicle for her son. It'll probably get bought when it goes on sale for $35, then $30, then $27, then all the way down to $0.77.  :P
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jesse James on October 10, 2005, 05:55 PM
I was observing that they aren't fast sellers here either, which I think is somewhat proof that there's a certain pricepoint where what people want and what people say they want are two different things, and that's about $40 I'd say.

I got 2...  Some stores have none on the shelves however I did a DPCI check at a store devoid of TIE's just out of curiosity and there they were in the back it said, so I dunno what to think about this one.  Clearance-bound they may be, which I sorta am hoping for so I can get a 3rd one (or more if they're cheap enough).

When the ARC-170 didn't move well at $30 I really began to think that ships are a dead thing for Star Wars.  An all-new and fairly nicely done ship for $30's a rarity for Hasbro, and for it to just sit there at that price is the kinda thing that is a death nail for future hopes.  The TIE's not gonna help matters even though I do believe it is overpriced personally.

I love the TIE but in my area I'd say I usually see one at every Target, one Target has 2 out still I'm sure, and then this one with none on the shelves had them in the back (or so the compy says).  That's not boding well for it.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Brian on October 11, 2005, 09:36 AM
I've seen at least one sitting at both of the Targets in our town for a little while now.  I still want to get one, but money is a little tight so I've been leaving it for now.  Plus, the Mrs. doesn't see the point in spending $40 for a ship I already have (except with bigger wings).  I sometimes feel that way too, and I do wish it was a tad cheaper.  I'd hate to risk waiting for clearance though, and would like to pick one up eventually.  I wonder how long these will be scheduled to be on the shelves, through Christmas or gone before that?  It would make a nice Christmas present ;), but I don't know if it will be there that long.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Morgbug on October 12, 2005, 12:08 AM
I saw them on my recent voyage to the US.  They are nice, I have to admit that.  But $40 is too rich for me for this ship.  If I can score one for $20-25 I'd be in, otherwise I'll live without it.
Title: Re: NEW TIE Fighter
Post by: Jeff on October 12, 2005, 10:08 AM
There are a few of these sitting around here now too (and that's after sending a few away to Canada  ;)).

I really like this TIE and to me, I think it's worth the cash to get the biggger wing TIE, but I totally understand that $40 is a bit more than the "average" comsumer (moms and grandmas) would spend, especially when they can grab an ARC-170 or Mustafar playset for the kiddies for $10 less.

I'm sure a price drop closer to Christmas will be in order, and when the price drops even just by $5-10 I'm sure tehy will start to fly off the shelves...

Jeff