ok, nice work, mr. semantics. my point was in asking WHY anyone should have to "CLEAN UP" anything. i wasn't accusing you of anything directly, it was a general question in reference to your statement that "SOMETHING" had to be "CLEANED UP." i wondered why a cleaning was necessary. that's it.

Ask Matt. He felt compelled to apologize. The smart thing would to have not "conducted" this little experiment to begin with. Did you, or anyone else for that matter, current Scummers included, really need a "test" to show that the moderators are lax at times?

And which Rebelscum administrator/moderator are you?

I'm not any moderator, just someone who's looking out for this sites best interests, and feels as if that piece of advice is worth heeding, if you want to keep your squeaky clean image.

Is that so wrong? I don't have a hidden agenda.

So Cory, pray tell, who besides Andrew are you guys having an issue with?  We've already been accused of unleashing "Durge" on you, which is obviously ridiculous, since he's an RS member, and has been banned here each and every time he's signed up.

Just Andrew. I didn't pin any other potential saboteurs to this site. Why nobody is fessing up to "Zack Attack" from either here or Rebelscum is beyond me. Anonymity is a great cloak for cowards.

Quote from: Cine on December 14, 2004, 09:37 PM

* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

Cory, for the last time, Darth_Darth has nothing to do with JD, so shut the **** up about that ********.  Seriously.  YOU ARE WRONG.  Now let it go.

Had I ever claimed that "Darth Darth" originated from Jedi Defender, we'd have something worth discussing. That said, "Zack Attack", bearing an avatar that A) was modified from KBZ's JD avatar, B) Had Gregg's face superimposed on it, and C) was conveniently hosted on a untraceable image server just all kind of leans towards someone from this site.  Maybe it was a Rebelscum user out to sabotage Jedi Defender! I don't know? Nobody has bothered going into it, much less acknowledging the situation aside from me.

Am I so wrong? Have you guys not superimposed Gregg's face on photos numerous times? Does' KBZ's avatar not feature Wilson Cruz from "Party Monster". I wish I would have saved the avatar, but, it dissappearing as soon as it was posted just adds to the mystique of "Zack Attack".

WHAT?!  Since when are there rules about how we're to address people in threads?  So I should've just been saying "you" in that whole thread, so no one knew who the hell I was talking about?!  Yeah, that makes a lot of sense...

Also, you keep throwing KBZ's name around.  Is Rob not also a member of RS?  Why does something to do with Rob equate to having something to do with JD?  You don't think there's people at RS who are unhappy with RS?  ****.  Get real, man.

Use the quotes to address me directly. You came off as if you were fingering me out of some flippin' police line-up, as if *I* did something wrong, and *I* was the one who's suspect.

I use Rob's name, again, because it was his avatar that was modified and used by "Zack Attack", bearing GNT's likeness.

I could raise a stink about a post about a user in the Rebelscum DVD Thread that attack my movie tastes about 3 weeks ago by the name of NEXT_SEASON, which just so happens to be Rob's AOL E-Mail address, save a few X's. I'm not going to, because I know him better than that for one, and two, it's not plausible, just coincidental.

You people need to stop and listen to what I have to say. It's ludicrous that I have to go through every post calling me out to clarify what is incredibly apparent. It's nothing new. It's as if were back at RS. Nobody bothered to try and understand me then, either.

Just..STOP! Don't make stupid decisions.

you also say that the staff has to "clean up" after whatever these people are doing - why?

I didn't say they had to? Boy, you guys are on a roll. JediMAC was literally forced to take the blame for Vator. That's what I was implying, not that my implications ever come across as they do to everyone else.

You know, whatever guys. Redhawk isn't with JD, and Vator made a bad decision.

It's just a little suspicious, given the recent flurry of activity that points right back here, and the anti-RS sentiment that gets it's own thread every week here.

Apology accepted.

I'm going to clear up some apparant misconceptions where people totally misinterpreted what I said. (Surprise, surprise!)

* Not once did I blame this site for Redhawk's actions. NOT ONCE! I asked, which was an open invite for JD to clear their name, if Redhawk was another one of their known members, conducting some assinine "test" on the Rebelscum moderators.

Automatically, you people assumed I SAID it was you, when I didn't, again, I only asked for a straight forward response.

* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

Anyone wish to claim responsibility for that? Zack's avatar, before being deleted, was of KBZ's "Party Monster" avatar of Wilson Cruz, with GNT's face superimposed on it, and I know photoshopping Greg's face on images is an immature passtime here. Again, I am only asking. NOBODY is laying blame. There's just a few outstanding circumstances that make the accusations all the more suspect.

So, as I said before, nobody is blaming anyone. I merely asked, and you took it wrong. I appreciate the apology for Andrews actions, and I think one is in order to ME for misintepreting what I merely ASKED and not IMPLIED.

Complain about the state of Rebelscum's forums, revel in your "Cheers" atmosphere, but in the future, keep a tighter leash on your problem members, so they don't drag your name through the mud.


P.S. Matt, if you ever address me again, I'd appreciate it if you didn't do it in 2nd person. I was in the thread, and the way I was referred to, I felt, was quite condescending.