JediDefender.com Forums
Collectibles => The Vintage Collection => Topic started by: Nicklab on July 16, 2019, 10:47 AM
-
SDCC 2019 preview night is tomorrow! Aside from the Sith Trooper from TROS that seems to have leaked out, does anyone have predictions about what we might see in the next few days for The Vintage Collection?
-
I hope we see some more TVC Jabba related figures. I'd pay serious money for a resculpted accurately-scaled Max Rebo trio...with an original-look Sy Snoodles (dreaming, I know).
**** it...just more TVC in general. I wish we had more Rogue One and Solo TVC figures. The Death Star gunner didn't really scratch the itch for more RO goodness.
-
Probably TROS related ala Rey, Finn, Poe and Scarface Kylo. Things seen in the trailer... and the same for 6" too.
-
does anyone have predictions about what we might see in the next few days for The Vintage Collection?
I'm guessing we're far more likely to get a look at the "old movie" sourced TVC figures Jayson has already found in the Walmart computers (Ceremony Luke, Ceremony Leia, Jawa) or maybe something new from The Mandalorian TV series or Jedi: Fallen Order video game versus seeing anything from Episode 9 (beyond the Sith Trooper that's already been leaked).
They didn't really show much from Ep7 or Ep8 ahead of time so I'm guessing the Ep9 stuff will follow suit and won't be seen until it leaks in the weeks leading up to Triple Force Friday.
I'm mainly interested to see if they will finally address the Galaxy of Adventures 5" line rumors. I hope they are willing to finally go on record about what the deal is with all the 5" product listings in the retail computer systems. Is this rumored 5" line designed to replace the 3.75" 5POA stuff or is it a fourth line of stuff they are running this Fall (3.75" 5POA, 3.75" TVC, 5" GOA, 6" BS).
-
**** it...just more TVC in general. I wish we had more Rogue One and Solo TVC figures. The Death Star gunner didn't really scratch the itch for more RO goodness.
+1 here. Especially on Rogue One and Solo. Those movies have gotten some representation, but not nearly enough in my book. Each movie only has about half a dozen characters in the TVC line so far.
-
Each movie only has about half a dozen characters in the TVC line so far.
That's unfortunately the sad story for all these new movies. Even if we count all the Walmart Black Series 3.75" SA that haven't been TVC re-carded yet (Finn, Leia, Starkiller Han, Rose, Executioner), we're at:
TFA - 9 figures
RO - 8 figures
TLJ - 6 figures
SOLO - 5 figures
I'd be thrilled to get SA versions of TFA Smuggler Han and General Leia; SA versions of the rest of the Rogue One crew (Baze, Chuirrut, Bodhi, K2SO); SA versions of Qi'ra, Dryden, Beckett, Rio, Val. And that's just scratching the surface main characters that still need SA figures. :(
-
I'd be thrilled to get SA versions of TFA Smuggler Han and General Leia; SA versions of the rest of the Rogue One crew (Baze, Chuirrut, Bodhi, K2SO); SA versions of Qi'ra, Dryden, Beckett, Rio, Val. And that's just scratching the surface main characters that still need SA figures. :(
That deafening noise you'd hear would the sound of my toygasm reverberating across the planet.
-
I'm kind of shocked that we didn't get a TVC Kylo Ren or Rey from the throne room duel in TLJ. Those seemed like such obvious choices. But maybe Hasbro is trying to avoid the perception issues associated with their previous double-dipping on characters with varying levels of detail and/or articulation?
As for the other movies in the Disney era? There seem to be a fair number of troopers represented in the line. And that's kind of in line with what collectors had called for in the past. But it seems like now it maybe happening at the expense of core characters.
-
I'd love to see a TLJ Duel Rey and Kylo. I need a Kylo to face off against Crait Luke!
-
Photos from Preview Night coming out now...nothing new of course but some good close up shots of the Skiff. ;)
-
I hope we see some more TVC Jabba related figures. I'd pay serious money for a resculpted accurately-scaled Max Rebo trio...with an original-look Sy Snoodles (dreaming, I know).
**** it...just more TVC in general. I wish we had more Rogue One and Solo TVC figures. The Death Star gunner didn't really scratch the itch for more RO goodness.
I hope they move onto something else like the cantina and do a modular playset, a bunch of new aliens, a few nice resculpts... then next year do Hoth or Endor or whatever and just keep doing OT themes like that for awhile.
-
I hope there’s some cool TVC-ish surprises and stuff.
I am already grateful to Darth_Anton for once again doing some coverage for us on his dime while he’s at the show. I work late thursdays anymore so I’m going to miss some of the first day till I’m home, and I have a mountain of problems building up so this year isn’t very convenient for me, but I hope we can have some nice pics and coverage of the show like we try to do every year.
I’m sure Hasbro will have some cool stuff to show.
-
Um so yeah. How is this 5" line not the same as what I can go to Disney Store and get (at least aesthetic wise)?
And that was a boring presentation
-
If you dig helmets and animated-stylized figures though it was ok.
I get it sort of, as I'm sure a lot of TVC is dedicated to new media so it's whatever to me, but yeah not much I was into there.
And a Q&A and not one person asked if those Luke figures will be individually carded because hey, we need to get that definitive no on Cleigg Lars for the billionth time. ;D
-
Woof. I mean I get that a lot is held back for Rise of Skywalker, Mandalorian, and the whole triple force Friday thing, but yeah that has to be one of the biggest snoozers they have had. Fett helmet looks cool, and the Black Series Dagobah Luke shows promise....but they couldn't have had some non new media reveals? A couple OT figures, or PT figures, or something from the previous Disney era movies? Seems like they could have planned out to have something to show.
I'm sure there will be a lot of hate for the 5" line, but I kind of get it. Although it isn't exactly the same thing, those $10, 6" Marvel figures seem to sell like gangbusters to the kiddos/parents. Not to be doom and gloom, but I wonder what that means for the 3 3/4" basic line? Seems like a lot of different lines to have out at once otherwise.
-
I feel like the aesthetic of the 5" figs is a GOOD sign 3.75 is ok.
And I gotta think these will be more than $10. A bunch of articulation and battle features.
-
Those GOA youtube videos are mega popular. Huge crowds in the comments, tons of people asking for the films to be redone in animated style using the audio from the originals... I'm kinda shocked by the crowds every video gets.
Of course the only ones that are littered with complaining are the ones about female characters, LMAO
-
Um so yeah. How is this 5" line not the same as what I can go to Disney Store and get (at least aesthetic wise)?
And that was a boring presentation
So there really is going to be a 5” line?! I don’t get the point of doing something between existing 4” and 6” lines. Was there any indication that 3 3/4” was really on the chopping block? If it goes, I really am done with new stuff. I don’t know which option would be better and which one worse.
-
These presentations normally give me collector anxiety. Because despite it being a bunch of future releases I already feel like I'm newly that much farther behind. I do not feel that way today.
-
See that is a good thing...
NYCC though... eh... may not feel that way. :-\
-
They didn't really show much from Ep7 or Ep8 ahead of time so I'm guessing the Ep9 stuff will follow suit and won't be seen until it leaks in the weeks leading up to Triple Force Friday.
I'm mainly interested to see if they will finally address the Galaxy of Adventures 5" line rumors.
So, looks like my expectations were met. Nothing from the Triple Force Friday goodies (Manadlorian, Ep9, Fallen Order).
Glad to see them finally go on the record that the 5" stuff is in fact happening, kudos to Jayson/Yakface for being all over that since like February (or earlier).
I don’t get the point of doing something between existing 4” and 6” lines. Was there any indication that 3 3/4” was really on the chopping block?
I feel like the aesthetic of the 5" figs is a GOOD sign 3.75 is ok.
Will there be 3.75" in the Fall? 3.75" TVC, yep. 3.75" 5POA... remains to be seen. Again, Jayson has dug up a ****-ton of product #s (https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2019/01/08/2019-master-upc-dpci-sku-list/) for October. Lots of 5" GOA, lots of Black Series 6", lots of 3.75" TVC. But next to nothing for 3.75" 5POA.
Yes, lack of evidence/#s being found doesn't prove 3.75" 5POA is dead... but it sure doesn't help those rumors either.
And I gotta think these will be more than $10. A bunch of articulation and battle features.
STAR WARS GALAXY OF ADVENTURES 5-INCH Figure Assortment
(HASBRO/Ages 4 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: Starting at $9.99/Available: Fall 2019)
-
Wow. $10. I gotta believe people are going to lose their mind that already feel 3.75 is overpriced.....
-
Wonder if GOA is cutting out a lot of paint apps and going simpler? Those figures didn't look particularly less detailed to me, but maybe they are? Or maybe Hasbro's shifting their manufacturing completely?
-
I just feel like maybe all the secrecy hurts Star Wars a bit. I get that a lot of it is out of Hasbro's hands, but just in general. I mean, there is a level of secrecy with Marvel stuff too, but Hasbro is able to basically be the talk of the show with their Legends reveals each time. Often 20-30 new figures shown in some instances. If they can't show movie stuff, they unleash a bunch of new comic based figures. I don't see why they couldn't just mix things up unveiling some OT and PT stuff, or just characters they missed from Force Awakens, Last Jedi, Rogue One, Solo, Clone Wars, or Rebels.
I still kind of wonder about the basic line of 3 3/4" stuff. I don't know that we have had much in the way of rumors for that, where everything else has been covered. I think TVC will continue for the time being, but I could also see that eventually moving to "Fan Channel" or some sort of online exclusive type of thing. I personally love the scale/line, but it sort of seems to be becoming more niche. I could see them wanting the primary lines being the 5" and Black Series.
-
I collect four things. Hasbro 3.75”, Super 7 Reaction, Gentle Giant Mini-Busts, and OT SW LEGO. As far as I can tell, SDCC has basically come and gone and I saw a grand total of one new item in those four lines, a greyscale digital model of a resculpt of Tarkin for the mini-bust line.
It’s a head scratcher considering how this week usually goes.
-
It’s a head scratcher considering how this week usually goes.
I'm not even sure why Hasbro went through the motions of this panel if the only thing they were going to be allowed to show was the new 5" line. It seems like they spent more time talking about stuff you can't even buy (the dioramas and custom figures in them) than the actual new products.
I get that they probably couldn't talk about the Ep9 stuff because of Disney restrictions. I was hoping we'd get Mandalorian of Fallen Order reveals but nope - saving those for Triple Force Friday too.
So now we get to play the fun game where fan sites dig up scoops and have to make the choice to play nice and sit on info so they don't reveal some paid [insert large media company] reveal that Hasbro has set up. Or, the fan site can post the scoop, end up on Hasbro's **** list, and get banned from future Hasbro events and press stuff. Fun times.
I saw a few folks say this on Twitter and I agree - if you're not going to be able to show us anything, at least give us a map of what to expect. Just say 'sorry we can't show you anything but we can tell you we have 4 waves of 4 figures planned for Fall 2019' or whatever. Like they did with this type of slide (http://www.yodasnews.com/wp-content/gallery/hasbronycc18/IMG_1075.JPEG) at other shows last year.
-
Exactly... Like just say some stuff, and I'd have been happy. Say "We have some TVC vehicles planned, and some TVC figures which number X and Y are new ones, and some exclusives for blabbity blah..." and I'm pretty happy.
It wasn't just Star Wars either... like Rob, I didn't see a whole lot new that would interest me. Acid Rain is doing stuff but they didn't show much at all new at the show, and actually the one manufacturer announced it online instead. Their exclusive was related to the new stuff but that's it. The other manufacturer had a lot of stuff, but none of it was new. Not one thing.
Hiya Toys brought a 3.75" Robocop figure (cool, and cool that they have the license to that now), but that was it really. They revealed some predator figures that are new, I think, but it's hard to tell since all the predators have similar looks. Some are distinct, but some are kind of difficult to place where they came from. Absolutely no new Alien stuff, which sucked since folks into that line are looking for new human characters but nothing was mentioned or revealed.
GTP Toys was hit/miss on news depending on your POV... officially licensed, great... possibly not doing 3.75" or not doing it remotely as nice as they were doing it by making it non-modular, not so great (and possibly ditching things like doors and accessories for it)... I'd not be remotely surprised if it was Hasbro-related on the latter. That would utterly suck, and make me wish they hadn't gotten a license, to be honest.
Other companies I'm into weren't at the show since they're Asia-specific. And I don't believe Bandai had a presence that I've noticed anyone caught... That sucks since they're doing such good stuff in the modeling world. If they were there I think we might've missed them, but not sure yet as I'm waiting on Anton's word on final pics and stuff.
Yeah, SDCC in general was a big fat popcorn fart.
-
I love how the presentation was kind of like "We had such an amazing experience with the Vintage Collection Sail Barge, and it was overwhelmingly backed. It was a huge success for the Vintage Collection! We were so excited that we built a huge diorama for 6" figures! Here's a weirdly scaled Bespin Luke! Here's a new line of 5" figures! Here are some ******* helmets!"
-
The SDCC presentation was much better when the movies came out in May....now the timing is all off.
-
I saw some Bandai stuff Jesse but I think the only new thing was Godzilla.
No one has mentioned Mattel, but they had a pretty good showing I thought. Announced a slew of all new Dino species for the Jurassic line, and showed off a bunch of new MOTU stuff.
Hasbro’s support for the animated entertainment has gotten progressively worse with each incarnation. At this point I don’t expect they will do anything at all for the new Clone Wars. :(
-
To say that they're playing things close to the vest is a massive understatement. It's frustrating, without a doubt. This is coming not just from Hasbro but from Disney and Lucasfilm licensing. It's an across the board effort that is coming from the very top to all licensees.
We saw three big movie line rollouts in 2015, 2016 and 2017 that came out 3 months in advance of their respective movies (Solo was a different model). What we learned was that it was probably too early. The move was intended to build interest in the movies with a long buildup to the theatrical releases of TFA, Rogue One and TLJ. The interest going into the release of TFA was massive. But it has trailed off since that time. There was the perception that too much product was made, repeating some mistakes of the past like we saw with Episode I. So there are corrections being made. The line is being released closer to the release of TROS in theaters. That's what is at work here - information is going to be released when Disney wants it released. They're giving us a Preview Figure in the form of the Black Series Sith Trooper.
The big problem that a licensee like Hasbro seems to be facing is perception. Product has been announced, and it's getting out there in dribs and drabgs. But finding new product at retail continues to be a challenge. I haven't really seen new TVC figures in stores in any sort of quantity since the wave with Enfys Nest and the Range Trooper was released. Figures are getting out there, but it seems inconsistent or supply is limited in brick and mortar stores. When you go the online retail route? Your order may get fulfilled, but that sense of tracking something down for your collection is diminished.
Patience is the answer to all of this. But when have we ever known collectors to be a patient sort?