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Title: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jesse James on July 16, 2009, 03:14 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_GenFemStormtrooperLoose2_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_GenFemStormtrooperLoose2_Full.jpg)

It seems so!  (clicky her head to check it out)

There's no word on where/when/how this is going to be delivered, or if it's not a generic character and it's to represent someone, or if it isn't just a factory worker playing around with a Padme Head and that female Trooper body (though I seriously doubt that, and I believe it's something coming out at some point).

I don't recall female Troopers in the EU much at all beyond that Legacy person though, so I find it strange, to say the least.  Whatever though.   ***shrugs***
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jayson on July 16, 2009, 03:23 PM
Fake.  ;)
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jesse James on July 16, 2009, 03:26 PM
 :D

I was waiting for that.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: jedipurge on July 16, 2009, 03:48 PM
I thought about doing that exactly, well almost i'd've painted the hood black.  I almost hope it's not fake.  Stormies need eye candy too  >:D
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: speedermike on July 16, 2009, 04:09 PM
Y'know, I don't hate this type of EU stuff, it's just that it doesn't feel authentic.  I would like to think of the Empire as a strict, racist, sexist, fascist group of male humans.  No aliens, no woman.  Things like this just are way to PC for the Empire.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jayson on July 16, 2009, 04:12 PM
Y'know, I don't hate this type of EU stuff, it's just that it doesn't feel authentic.  I would like to think of the Empire as a strict, racist, sexist, fascist group of male humans.  No aliens, no woman.  Things like this just are way to PC for the Empire.

Using that rationale, if it's real, I'd think that this is something from the Star Wars Legacy Era, like Jes Gistang. I don't follow the comic much to know if they've introduced a new femtrooper.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 16, 2009, 04:13 PM
I think it's fake/factory leftover. All it is is the Legacy Illum Padme Body on the Legacy Stormie Body. Why I think it's fake is the paint job is not different at all.

This seller's Geo droids do not have painted eyes, these could be leftover headless bodies with left over parts. This seller has sold stuff like this before.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 16, 2009, 04:17 PM
I am right as I looked the listing up and the title says custom.

STAR WARS tlc legacy STORMTROOPER female custom

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=260447820382
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jesse James on July 16, 2009, 04:34 PM
The plot thickens! :P

Yeah, having no clue about any of it right now, so I'll toss that out there...  It's interesting regardless, and sadly I'd probably buy a handful of this figure, but if it doesn't happen I'm just as content too.  I was actually hesitant to post the images at first, but I figured so long as it's worded as "unknown" then no big deal and let the speculation begin.

I was thinking the hood being white wasn't helping its case for being a production piece...  Still, maybe Hasbro just got some inspiration.  :-X  I have no desire one way or the other for it really, but I probably would've made a squad of girlies for just the weirdness of it.

I figure if nothing is shown at SDCC on this, we can chalk it up to being purely a kitbash and ignore it.  It certainly seems to be leaning that way right now.  Sorry Fanboys dreaming of an army of miniature women in stormtrooper gear, to do their bidding!
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Rob on July 16, 2009, 04:51 PM
Custom or not, I still hate it - so your thread title is fine Jesse.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: P-Siddy on July 16, 2009, 05:22 PM
I know it's a custom, but why can't the Emperor want some chicks in his forces? Doesn't want discrimination suits on his ass? Mara Jade?

Well, I'm not a fan of EU either but if this would have been legit, I would be happy for those who want such a figure.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 16, 2009, 05:36 PM
I am going to buy a few because I wanted to build a squad of Chick Stormies, he has the best price so I appreciate the link. So JJ for bursting the controversy so quickly.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Greg on July 16, 2009, 06:37 PM
The white hood and different helmet point to kitbash/custom. There were some clones of this nature back in the ROTS days, just cobbled together from various parts.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jesse James on July 16, 2009, 06:49 PM
No problem JOT, it's why I worded it as sort of a mystery. ;)  Can't be too cautious with the unknowns, especially when they're obviously not difficult to do, such as this.  It's a weird thing though, and may be worth buying some anyway.

Regardless though, it's best to be debunked sooner than later.  Sooner was best.  Barring anything showing up at SDCC and the seller being wrong, I'm chalking it up to just a kitbash for now as well.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: CHEWIE on July 16, 2009, 06:58 PM
How has this been debunked?   ???

I think there's a good chance this is real.  Here's why:


1) This seller has revealed a lot of new figures recently

2) He had 50 of them in stock

3) This seller has a history of entering the word "custom" into the descriptions of his new auctions

4) In EU, there are other female stormtroopers besides Jes Gistang

5) Hasbro loves to reuse molds

6) Hasbro used the Juno head for the Deena Shan Comic Pack



My guess if it's real, it's going to be part of a comic pack.  Just a guess, but I don't think this is fake.  Sure, it could be but I have more reason to think it's the real thing.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jesse James on July 16, 2009, 07:12 PM
It's not really confirmed one way or the other, to me, as I noted...  I've never really noticed the seller list things as "custom" all the time though, as you claim CHEWIE.  NOt to say he hasn't, but I know I certainly haven't seen that, especially lately.  Just this one figure's listing.

Right now, there's just as many factors to say it's just extra parts put together as there are to say otherwise...  I think if there were a rumor swirling to the contrary, I'd be less skeptical.

Personally I'm running with it just as a questionable item right now till it's confirmed.  It's one of those things too easily faked not to, I believe.  It's basically not the Dewback. ;)  I'm thinking it's odd the hood isn't decorated to match the body glove, that works against it, but I haven't seen anything confirming it either way so for now I think the readers should take it with a grain of salt.  Just one of those things that'll either surprise people as true if it turns up at SDCC, or not (and then I don't think most people will really care, as I didn't hear anyone clamoring for these).  For now it's a simple "perhaps" though.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Greg on July 16, 2009, 07:33 PM
I'm gonna one up you Jesse... I'm going straight for fake. I'm going to cite the similar situation (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=4701&zoneid=2) I mentioned earlier. I'll gladly eat my words if it is proven legit at SDCC next week.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jesse James on July 16, 2009, 08:14 PM
It's very possible.  I'm leaning your direction on it Greg, but part of me would kinda dig buying a handful of them, so part of me is HOPING it's legit.  I'll live without it if not though.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Rob on July 16, 2009, 08:55 PM
part of me would kinda dig buying a handful of them, so part of me is HOPING it's legit. 

Is this for your "72 virgins for Emperor Palpatine" diorama?

I can't wait 'til it's finished!
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: CHEWIE on July 16, 2009, 09:43 PM
I've never really noticed the seller list things as "custom" all the time though, as you claim CHEWIE. 

That's not what I said at all... here's my statement:

This seller has a history of entering the word "custom" into the descriptions of his new auctions

So, I didn't mean to come across as he does it "all the time" - just that this isn't the first time he's done this. 



NOt to say he hasn't, but I know I certainly haven't seen that, especially lately.  Just this one figure's listing.

He has that I can recall.  Remember when he first posted this auction -

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09CW_Pilot1Loose2_Full.jpg)

The description had the word "custom" at the end of the listing when he originally listed it.  Later he changed it.  I'm not sure why he's done that before, but he's done it at least 2-3 times over the past few months that I've seen.

Anyways, not trying to argue - I just think there's reason on both sides of the debate on whether this is legit, and I'm simply giving my reasons for thinking there's a good chance this is an actual figure Hasbro plans on releasing.   
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jeff on July 17, 2009, 01:03 AM
I'm not sure why he's done that before, but he's done it at least 2-3 times over the past few months that I've seen.

I have seen a few times where prototype/early seller guys will put "custom" in the title as sort of a defense mechanism for selling early stuff - "Oh no, it's not a figure that walked out of the factory early, it's a 'custom'".  But then it turns out to be the real deal...  not sure why they do it either, but based on this seller's history, it would not surprise me if we found out this was a legit deal after all.   :-X

Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 17, 2009, 10:13 AM
Well I hope these are real. I'd be all over those female stormtroopers! I'd like a squad of them. Though thankfully I do already have 3 Jes Gistang figures. So if this is fake, I'll make do with those three.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Keonobi on July 17, 2009, 10:26 AM
I'd be fine with Hasbro offering it in some capacity.  They already spent the money on tooling the body for what was a probably fairly low production run exclusive.  I haven't read all of the Legacy comics but I can't recall seeing other female Stormtroopers, but that doesn't mean there weren't.  Not sure where they'd put this figure (comicpack, basic card, battlepack), but I'd probably buy it if I saw it.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 17, 2009, 10:38 AM
Jes Gistang was the FIRST female Stormtrooper. But who's to say more didn't follow? We can make-believe. Hell we do that with all this other stuff anyway, LOL.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 17, 2009, 11:53 AM
I'll be fine with her if she is real, she's an Imperial after all.  ;) I think the idea is pretty interesting.

Now where's the female rebel fleet trooper?  ;D
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: CHEWIE on July 17, 2009, 01:01 PM
I'm not sure why he's done that before, but he's done it at least 2-3 times over the past few months that I've seen.

I have seen a few times where prototype/early seller guys will put "custom" in the title as sort of a defense mechanism for selling early stuff - "Oh no, it's not a figure that walked out of the factory early, it's a 'custom'".  But then it turns out to be the real deal...  not sure why they do it either, but based on this seller's history, it would not surprise me if we found out this was a legit deal after all.   :-X

Probably the best theory I've seen on this.  Though really if this is the real deal, why they wouldn't paint the head wrap black is odd to me. 

Female Fleet Trooper?  I say bring it on Anton.  That would be awesome... seen some great custom ones in the past, I think it would make for a fun figure.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 17, 2009, 01:27 PM
I think this is a legit figure.

It's from the new scenes that Lucas is adding to A New Hope for the Blu-Ray release.

When Luke and Leia are trying to escape the Death Star - in that scene where they're trying to get across the chasm, the ghost of Padme is going to appear disguised as a Stormtrooper and help Leia shoot the Stormtroopers on the next level up. After the Stormtroopers are dispatched, Luke and Leia are going to be digitally altered to say "Thanks Mom!" and then swing across the chasm. Unfortunately, Leia's line of "Good Luck" has been removed.

Later on Padme reappears in the same disguise and meets up with Obi-Wan who is about to disable the tractor beam. They exchange pleasantries and then Padme gives Obi-Wan a kick in the balls for stowing away on her ship when she went to Mustafar.

 ::)

I can't wait to add Ghost Padme in Stormtrooper Disguise to my collection!!!!
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: iFett on July 17, 2009, 01:38 PM
Don't give Lucas any ideas!!   >:(   ;)
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Rob on July 17, 2009, 01:52 PM
I can't wait to add Ghost Padme in Stormtrooper Disguise to my collection!!!!

Hopefully it'll have an action feature.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: P-Siddy on July 17, 2009, 05:06 PM
I can't wait to add Ghost Padme in Stormtrooper Disguise to my collection!!!!

Hopefully it'll have an action feature.

...then Padme gives Obi-Wan a kick in the balls for stowing away on her ship when she went to Mustafar.

That action would give quite a stir.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Darth Broem on July 17, 2009, 05:58 PM
I think this is a legit figure.

It's from the new scenes that Lucas is adding to A New Hope for the Blu-Ray release.

When Luke and Leia are trying to escape the Death Star - in that scene where they're trying to get across the chasm, the ghost of Padme is going to appear disguised as a Stormtrooper and help Leia shoot the Stormtroopers on the next level up. After the Stormtroopers are dispatched, Luke and Leia are going to be digitally altered to say "Thanks Mom!" and then swing across the chasm. Unfortunately, Leia's line of "Good Luck" has been removed.

Later on Padme reappears in the same disguise and meets up with Obi-Wan who is about to disable the tractor beam. They exchange pleasantries and then Padme gives Obi-Wan a kick in the balls for stowing away on her ship when she went to Mustafar.

 ::)

I can't wait to add Ghost Padme in Stormtrooper Disguise to my collection!!!!

I hear it's for the upcoming 3-D release.  ;D
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: clonebuyer111 on July 18, 2009, 05:13 AM
what other female stormtroopers were there?
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Phrubruh on July 18, 2009, 12:41 PM
Why couldn't Hasbro make this?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/phruby/femaletrooper2.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/phruby/femaletrooper6.jpg)
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: clonebuyer111 on July 18, 2009, 02:14 PM
that seller is now sold out of the female stormtrooper figure.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Greg on July 18, 2009, 02:14 PM
The Battle of Endor proved that the lack of midsection armor, though a morale boost for male troops, was a shortcoming in defense against Ewok spears. This is why, in the Legacy comics, female troopers were required to have full coverage. New rules, etc.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: clonebuyer111 on July 19, 2009, 09:58 PM
the seller has now relisted more of the female stormtrooper!!
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Force Guy on July 20, 2009, 01:27 AM
Why couldn't Hasbro make this?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/phruby/femaletrooper2.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/phruby/femaletrooper6.jpg)


You mean white-trash female Stormtrooper figs?
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: JediJman on July 20, 2009, 10:23 AM
You mean white-trash female Stormtrooper figs?

You think those girls are white trash?   ???
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Keonobi on July 20, 2009, 10:41 AM
I'm hoping for Hasbro to pack that female stormie with at least two overweight fanboys to leer at her from behind, otherwise she'll just look ridiculous.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 21, 2009, 02:42 PM
You mean white-trash female Stormtrooper figs?

You think those girls are white trash?   ???

I thought much the same thing when I saw the pic, I have to admit.  Tattoos and piercings at the navel, thin unhealthy-looking hair, plus the fact that these are girls actively making and/or wearing costumes at conventions, that have been altered and "sexified"...
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: EpicGon on July 21, 2009, 03:54 PM
A female stormie is  only a possibility in a galaxy of fiction. I don´t think people should hate that idea, you´re free to collect the generic female stormie or not, even if the stormie lady is packed with a build a droid part, because Hasbro repacks droid parts and figures over and over.

The challenge with the female stormie is to depict the armor "female", probably thiner arms and legs, to avoid kitbashes with a torso variation. Other detail to wonder about: All empire chick stormies wear headgear or they prefer to exhibit their hairdresses?

As we have seen with male stormies, they are depicted with headgear or not beneath their helmets. :)
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 21, 2009, 05:57 PM
You mean white-trash female Stormtrooper figs?

You think those girls are white trash?   ???

I thought much the same thing when I saw the pic, I have to admit.  Tattoos and piercings at the navel, thin unhealthy-looking hair, plus the fact that these are girls actively making and/or wearing costumes at conventions, that have been altered and "sexified"...

I have to admit my Whitey sirens went off when I saw those pics too.

I bought a few of these to make a squad. Without any mods the Dena/Juno heads fit perfectly on this body as well as several others. No drilling needed. I was eying up some of the regular EE version on evilBay but the cheapest I could find her was $13. This custom was a great way to stock up on her cheap. I will know have a squad of 6 Female Troopers....to sit on my shelf and collect dust as a novelty.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: JediJman on July 21, 2009, 09:25 PM
You mean white-trash female Stormtrooper figs?

You think those girls are white trash?   ???

I thought much the same thing when I saw the pic, I have to admit.  Tattoos and piercings at the navel, thin unhealthy-looking hair, plus the fact that these are girls actively making and/or wearing costumes at conventions, that have been altered and "sexified"...

Um, okay.  So having tats and piercings makes you white trash now?   ???  Did you think maybe their hair looks flat because they're wearing helmets?  And there are tons of guys wearing costumes at conventions - are they all white trash guys?  Not really following that logic.  As for making the outfits a little sexier are you referring to the armored boobies or open mid-sections?  I have to think that armor would be a little uncomfortable without the chest enhancements, but the intent of the costume is to be feminine and sexy.  If they were wearing slave leia costumes, would that be more or less white trash for you?  Or rather, if they had the same costume, but had big hair and no tats would they still be white trash in your eyes? 

There are a surprising number of women at these events - I think its pretty sexist to call them white trash.   >:(
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Keonobi on July 22, 2009, 10:38 AM
Justin, I made fun of the leering fan-boys, which make up a sizable plurality of the attendees. ;D
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: P-Siddy on July 22, 2009, 11:32 PM
Well, their armor is white, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: JediJman on July 22, 2009, 11:44 PM
Justin, I made fun of the leering fan-boys, which make up a sizable plurality of the attendees. ;D

Amen.  I'd happily join that bunch.  Just don't see the need or justification for others to refer to these two as white trash.  In fact, I think the blonde is Karma.  She was an old school rebelscummer who came across as anything but white trash.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2009, 04:44 AM
Anyone spotted her at SDCC yet?  I've been curious about this piece a lot, actually.  I'm still assuming it's a "no" though.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: JediJman on July 25, 2009, 04:51 PM
Anyone spotted her at SDCC yet?  I've been curious about this piece a lot, actually.  I'm still assuming it's a "no" though.

I thought it was confirmed that this was a custom?   ???
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: Jesse James on July 25, 2009, 05:16 PM
Not really...  There's some info in the past of this thread that hinted at that, but there were some who felt it was still possibly a production item.  Myself, I've leaned to it being just random extras put together to make a figure to sell,which given the SDCC footage, that's the case it appears.

Of course Hasbro now has an idea in their head to do a generic one I guess.
Title: Re: Generic Female Stormtroopers? Anti-EU Fans Have New Figure to Hate!
Post by: CHEWIE on July 27, 2009, 01:33 PM
Yeah, I no longer think this is an official figure coming.