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Multimedia => The Original Trilogy => Topic started by: Ginanalbri on November 25, 2005, 01:37 PM
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How did Darth Vader really die? Because he was once zapped. So why would he die the second time. And it was not taking off the mask because he told Luke it was to late for that. So how did Darth Vader really die?
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It actually was because the mask was tooken off. He needed that for survival.
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Yeah but Darth Vader said it was already to late he was going to die anyway. top that ;D
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I think the sith lightening had over-riden his life support and caused it to break down, also the mast thing.
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The reson was really from that when he was younger and was zapped he was healthy, but now he was bearly staying alive now. so it was the zapping.
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Gosh you are right on the money with that one; and all these years I thought it was something he ate. Silly me.
I guess that eat and wait two hours to lightsaber duel rule is pure crap. :P
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It sure is. :)
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It couldn't have been the lightning when he was younger. That would mean he wouldn't have been the choosen one because he was weaker.
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Huh? This conversation is really difficult to follow.
I don't think it's important how he died. It's just important that he died. I'm afraid if you put a "how" with it, you can get something as silly as Padme dieing of a broken heart.
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Huh? This conversation is really difficult to follow.
Amen!
I don't think it's important how he died. It's just important that he died.
Yes! And "why" he died -- to save Luke and redeem himself.
I'm afraid if you put a "how" with it, you can get something as silly as Padme dieing of a broken heart.
Amen! Amen!
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I'm afraid if you put a "how" with it, you can get something as silly as Padme dieing of a broken heart.
something similar happened in my family during WWI though
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Huh? This conversation is really difficult to follow.
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I'm afraid if you put a "how" with it, you can get something as silly as Padme dieing of a broken heart.
something similar happened in my family during WWI though
Julien -- I am very sorry for what your family went through during WWI. I do believe that people can die of a broken heart or can lose the will to live. The problem I have is that I feel that explanation was a cop out on GL's part as an explanation for Padme's death -- it didn't fit with her character or the events. I believe someone as strong as her doesn't simply give up -- especially when she has just become a mother. There were many other ways to explain her death that made better sense.
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Hmmm... We're only talking about a movie here so...let's keep this simple :P
Vader's death was an enactement of sensible script
just think- It was Luke's time now- the torch passing- Anakin time was over
- Had Vader/Annakin lived how would you fit that in a script that
folks would buy into? Yeah I could really see Annakin reminiscing
about all the years-bragging about sith functions like slaying jedi
destroying planets ect with Luke-like that would go over well ::)
- Martyrismesque reason - because he died by turning good at the
end it made a better story
- the movie is more powerful at the end when the bad guy you
love to hate is actually a good guy after all(now you're love for
him is justified!) (my fav. reason I used to love watching Vader
choke the little bitch who got in his way or dissapointed him-
greaat!)
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great point tamidala. i really feel that padme was kind of given the shaft in rots. she was built up to be a strong female character through tpm & aotc balls to the walls kind of girl, but it seems that once she got pregnant she became this very weak character with no real personality at all. she was not even the same person to me. but this is supposed to be a discussion about vader's death and it would seem to be a number of things: lightning bolts pretty much straight to the head might make you go a little numb. lightning shorting out the numerous things that keep anakin "normal." i've started reading some of the new book i think it's called the rise of vader, and it goes into a pretty good description of what makes vader run. also with the probable short in his breather anankin can breath for a short while on his own and that in itself probably wore him out physically. although if you really think about it i think that the whole losing the will to live thing is better suited to anakin, finally realizing how wrong he was and how much it's cost him and how much guilt he must have carried in the few short moments he had left. if i were him and came to that realization i pretty sure i wouldn't want to live another second either.
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Thank you for your post , it helped me to remember some facts about Vader..things that I think killed him.
Way I look at it now(even though at the same time I agree with my script reasons for his death) was that Vader was already dead. The only thing keeping him alive was 2 things life support and Dark energy(hatred). Suppose the emperor designed his suit to be only functional from dark energy so that when/if Vader lost this he would die ending the emperor's threat from the chosen one to remove HIS power(bring balance). This is exactly what happened (only not in the order the emperor wanted)....when Vader let go of his hate(after killing the last thing he truly hated more than Obi Won) there was nothing left to fuel him= death was next.
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once again slothus very much possible. if you look at the new star wars book about locations and it goes into detail about that med facility that palpy fixes ani there's a lot of sith going on in there. and going into the use of dark energy and all that is possible it might make it a little confusing or drawn out if it was in the movie. while the emporer is a master manipulator and sees a lot into the future he is also very overconfident and arrogant. i think that the emporer never saw it coming that vader would ever turn back to ani, he pretty much wrote off the whole Chosen One thing.
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I'm afraid if you put a "how" with it, you can get something as silly as Padme dieing of a broken heart.
something similar happened in my family during WWI though
Julien -- I am very sorry for what your family went through during WWI. I do believe that people can die of a broken heart or can lose the will to live. The problem I have is that I feel that explanation was a cop out on GL's part as an explanation for Padme's death -- it didn't fit with her character or the events. I believe someone as strong as her doesn't simply give up -- especially when she has just become a mother. There were many other ways to explain her death that made better sense.
This is where I was coming from as well, in no way had I intended to belittle a dramatic real-life occurrance.
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You all have to admit that it was the lightning that shut down his life supports and now he is dead.
Huh? This conversation is really difficult to follow.
I don't think it's important how he died. It's just important that he died.
True, True. All true
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You all have to admit that it was the lightning that shut down his life supports and now he is dead.
I don't think anyone is trying to argue that he is still alive.