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Title: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on January 28, 2005, 01:09 AM
Sounds like it's maybe coming...  No pictures yet, but I guess some stuff was previewed this past year at a show.  It is indeed in the Star Wars scale as well.

Veeeerrrrrrrryyyyy interesting.

I'm wanting some resistance fighters and Endoskeletons!!!  An Arnold figure for customs is just gonna be funny as hell too.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Darby on January 28, 2005, 04:25 AM
Hmm... who's making this?  Could be cool.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on January 28, 2005, 05:30 AM
Palisades, who cranked out those 1:18 scale figures for Army of Darkness.  The Terminator line's described specifically as "an army builder" line.

OOOooooooo *Drool*

I'm not even THAT into Terminator, but I can see the potential for that film's "universe" being a kickass one to get into with soldiers and such...  And of course I'm open to any new "fodder" arriving for customizing,b ut I'm thinking some of this stuff could be kick ass on its own too.

I dream of the day they make a super articulated 1:18 scale Predator/Aliens line with Colonial Marines...  I can only imagine the coolness that would spew forth of a toy line like that.

Those AoD figures are articulated nicely but I hear they're fragile ala a McFarlane figure.  I gotta find some of them to buy even in my area to see first hand.  I wanted some skeletons from them anyway.

Terminator could kick ass.  Who doesn't want a custom Star Wars senator that has Arnold's head on it, ya know?  :)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: evenflow on January 28, 2005, 09:27 AM
Soundes interesting, but there are too many lines i would love to buy but not enough money or space to get them.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on February 1, 2005, 08:57 AM
I had absolutely no interest in Army of Darkness. Never saw the Evil Dead movies. But I couldn't resist picking up almost every 4-inch figure Palisades offered for that line. By comparison, I'm far more interested in T-2, so like you, Jesse, I'm drooling over this announcement. I'll have a 4-inch scale Iron Man leading my Clone Troopers into battle against a few endoskeletons and a platoon of battle droids.

I dream of the day they make a super articulated 1:18 scale Predator/Aliens line with Colonial Marines...

No Colonial Marines yet, but if you don't mind building the Aliens and Predators yourself, check out these Snap Kits (http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=6&itemid=5373). I have a Warrior Alien, a Grid Alien, and a Predator and they're pretty frickin' cool. So long as you dip the parts in boiling water before you snap them together, they're pretty easy to put together and look great alongside Star Wars figures.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 1, 2005, 09:26 PM
Holy **** MisterPL, you sir rock!  :)  Now to figure out where they are to order at AHQ.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 1, 2005, 09:54 PM
 :-\  Well, it seems like they don't have many of them, and those they do have are sold out for the most part (not all)...  That sorta sucks.

I wonder where I could get a case, and what it'd run me?  I'd dig having one of those chase figures, bigtime!
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on February 2, 2005, 02:10 PM
Yeah, I'm hanging on to my McFarlane and Kenner Alien Queen figures until I decide which one is closer to the 4-inch scale. (Suggestion?)

Hopefully ActionH-Q will restock. The kits ran for about $10 each, but a bit more for the chase figures as I recall.

And don't forget there's a 4-inch Star Trek line coming out in Japan as well. No word on who's doing it, but since Art Asylum has worldwide rights to the property, they're acting as creative directors and are reportedly offering a convention exclusive this summer. Should be interesting.

Hopefully we'll see something at Toy Fair. Can't wait to see the T-2 line.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2005, 09:01 PM
The aliens...  That's a toughie on scale because they varied in the films even, but the costume was actually a guy in it in the original alien, and also in Aliens too I believe (at least at times), and so the height's about that of an average dude...

I've never compared the kenner figures to Hasbro SW figures, but if I held one of those aliens next to VOTC Han, Bespin Capture Han, etc. and it matched up fairly well (little taller but looked like an average size guy in a big costume), then I would think highly of the scale... 

I want to get some of those figures.  Some are in stock I just am not real high on fundage right now...  I could definitely at least use an alien and a predator...  Just something for a little taste of what the others would be like.

This talk of 4"-ish scaled figures really has me jonesing even more for figures in this scale.

LOTR right now would be my ultimate pick for the 1:18-ish scale treatment...  Star Trek would be right up there though so those sound intriguing.

What I like about those kits you showed me Mr.PL is that they appear to actually yield a VERY poseable figure.  As poseable or more so than most any SW figure short of perhaps a SA figure.  I'm intrigued and may just get a couple of what they do have to test them out...  Pose 'em next to a Stormie squad like they're ripping them apart. :)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2005, 09:04 PM
BTW,

I hope the T2 line isn't limited to like Arnie, an Endo Termie, or things like that...  The line was described specifically as an "army builder" toy line... 

Could it be we'll see resistance fighter/Endo Skeleton 2-packs?  Perhaps a vehicle or two?  That'd be some ideal stuff.  The human resistance aspect of the Terminator series always intrigued me more than the time-travel storylines...  I preferred the flashback scenes MUCh more.  That's a series unto itself that I'd watch intently.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Muftak on February 3, 2005, 12:02 PM
I've never compared the kenner figures to Hasbro SW figures, but if I held one of those aliens next to VOTC Han, Bespin Capture Han, etc. and it matched up fairly well (little taller but looked like an average size guy in a big costume), then I would think highly of the scale... 

(http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421573638/26.jpg)

The Marines were slightly larger than 4" scale, but not quite 6" scale IIRC, but I've had the Scorpion Alien in my Cantina setup for years so I'm used to his size, about on par with, uhm, Muftak. The Kenner Queen is quite a bit larger, but she's packed away right now.

I'm really looking forward to seeing these Terminator figures. The Army of Darkness ones were very well-made, so my expectations are high.

And those Predator/Alien "snap" figures are sweet! I'll have to definitely keep my eyes peeled for those.

About the only other thing I'd need to complete my ultimate fanboy sci-fi battle set-up would be an army of ED-209s.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on February 4, 2005, 10:05 AM
That Scorpion Alien is my favorite of all the Kenner figures (although I have a special place in my heart for the Monket Alien). Unfortunately, it's pretty cartoony compared to the Snap Kits version.

Takara is also offering 4-inch scale Alien vs Predator figures this year, though all I've seen are prototype images of the Aliens, including a Queen. No idea if she'll actually be true 4-inch scale, though. I suspect they'll cheat, but you never know. (Hey look - a link to pictures! (http://www.digital-toys.com/microman.html))

And it looks like the emphasis is going to be on the Future War for the Terminator line. Palisades doesn't have likeness rights to Arnold. They can come close, but not TOO close, which is interesting now that he's an elected official. Maybe they should offer a Governor Schwarzenegger figure through the club just for head swaps. ;)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 4, 2005, 11:14 PM
I hope that's the case MisterPL...  Even if no Arnold comes through, I'd take whatever they threw at us if it's from "the future" era of the Terminator films.  To me that's the era with the most toy potential...  The films themselves really only offer you a few main characters and that's it.

A couple terminators, or variants of the same terminators, and the Sara Connor, Jon Connor...  Whoever the hell the dude was that banged Sara in the first film (I totally forget his name now).

If it's resistance guys, I'm in for maybe even multiples.  All I know is an Endoskeleton is almost a given and that'll be great SW custom fodder for a Phase 1 Darktrooper base.  Add a cleaver/shield and maybe a repeater, and you're set practically.  Tons of other figure potential too with resistance dudes.

Haven't seen pics of those Terminator figures by chance, have ya? :)  Toy Fair's got more this year than ever that piques my interest...  beyond Star Wars of course.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: jokabofe on February 4, 2005, 11:26 PM
Don't worry Jesse, I'll try and cover the entire Toy Fair, not just the SW related stuff.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Ben on February 5, 2005, 02:01 AM
I just watched T2 last night, and I think 1:18 scaled Hunter/Killers (those badass tanks in the future sequences) would totally kick ass.

Plus, I'd love some Star Wars-scaled Endoskeletons. I can't wait to see this stuff, or if my HK dreams will come true. :)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: The Collector on February 13, 2005, 02:51 PM
I have some bad news. They only have the rights to T2 stuff and they are not allowed to do any figures with Arnie's likeness. From what I'm hearing, most of the line will consist of things from the future war, like the machines and freedom fighters. John Conner as well.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 13, 2005, 08:42 PM
That's more what I wanted anyway...  Good news to me. :)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on February 16, 2005, 01:53 PM
ToyFare #92, page 21.

There's an image of a prototype endoskeleton. Looks pretty much like what you'd expect.

Oh. And there's more news:

They're doing 4-inch scale Planet of the Apes figures, too.

(You can go ape**** now, Jesse.)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jedi Idej on February 16, 2005, 02:47 PM
Omygawd! Omygawd! Omygawd! I'll be joining Jesse in flinging monkey crap for joy.

Any idea what the POA figures are based on?
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2005, 03:34 PM
now who ISN'T gonna do a "Spaceballs?  There goes the planet" diorma with POA guys and Star Wars figures!? :)  Thanks MisterPL, time to pick up a toy rag soon it seems.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: evenflow on February 20, 2005, 05:52 PM
I saw the line-up today and they look good. They only had 2-ups on display but still very cool. They had John COnners from T3, T-1000 split / blown up, and they also had their own creative version sof the Terminator one on wheels and one shaped like a Dog almost. They said they had rights to use their own creativity.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 21, 2005, 04:09 AM
interesting...  You catch that at the show or elsewhere evenflow?

I'm still waiting for some damn pictures. :(
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: evenflow on February 21, 2005, 10:21 AM
I went to their showroom. They had signs all over asking for no pictures. They looked cool, and probably will look much better when they are scaled down.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on February 24, 2005, 02:15 PM
I saw 2-ups at their Javits Center booth. Battle-damaged versions of faux-Arnie, Cop T-1000, an endoskeleton, and Sarah Conner. They looked pretty sweet. Word has it they're doing a female Terminator as well based on their own designs.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 25, 2005, 03:46 AM
Sounds neat MisterPL...  Kinda goes against the hoped for "Army Builder" line htough.  I truly hope they don't bail on the future robot wars concept over just making film figures.  :(

Still gonna love getting an Endo Skeleton and some new headsculpts to work with, but I was really REALLY hoping for some human resistance guys, robots, etc.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: evenflow on February 25, 2005, 09:58 AM
I saw 2-ups at their Javits Center booth. Battle-damaged versions of faux-Arnie, Cop T-1000, an endoskeleton, and Sarah Conner. They looked pretty sweet. Word has it they're doing a female Terminator as well based on their own designs.

At the actual Palisade showroom they also showed John Conners and a wierd looking dog Terminator and a tank like terminator.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 25, 2005, 12:08 PM
A dog too?  hmm, interesting...  Sounds like they're maybe willing to jump into the future wars thing.  Especially with the tank-like one.

I wish they'd get off the pot already on the pictures though.

Toy Fair was a huge crap fest I guess...  Not a lot showing and those who were weren't allowing photos.

BBI and 21st are in this horn lock where they won't display stuff early for fear the other will dick them over by attempting to "steal" it.  Dusty Trails didn't even have their 4" Wild West line with them which I really was looking forward to.

Companies like Palisades were hush-hush...

21st didn't display much, but their pamphlet had pictures of the Platoon figures they're making (and mentioned a 10 figure series for the film A Bridge Too Far).  Pics of their Japanese 1:18 infantry figures too which was neat.

Nothing on hand though.  :(  Just some planes.

BBI's only real 4" showing was they did have some more clear photos taken of their World War II U.S. infantry which look to blow 21st's 1st series outta the water (thank god).

Hell, even Star Wars was stuff we'd all seen already...  Though seeing those CLones up close was a treat.  Highlight of the show probably was their efforts with clonetroopers this year.

And I still can't get those goddamn 4" Alien Vs. Predator figures MisterPL.  It's killing me.  :(  When I can afford them nobody has them, and when I can't afford them I can track a case down (that's about it, never individual figures for the $10-ish price).

Oh well...  :(
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Famine on February 25, 2005, 12:16 PM
And I still can't get those goddamn 4" Alien Vs. Predator figures MisterPL.  It's killing me.  :(  When I can afford them nobody has them, and when I can't afford them I can track a case down.

That's how it always is for me.

That's why I need a job.

*sigh* :P

Kevin
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on February 25, 2005, 03:33 PM
21st didn't display much, but their pamphlet had pictures of the Platoon figures they're making (and mentioned a 10 figure series for the film A Bridge Too Far).

Speaking of 21st Century, I noticed they had the license for Sky Captain. I saw the packaged prototype at their booth and after asking some questions wondered why they bothered at all. The plane is just a repaint of their P-40 Mustang with NONE of the cool action features from the movie. And it MIGHT come with a pilot, but it definitely won't be Sky Captain because they don't have Jude Law's likeness rights. They can't even approximate the costume colors. VERY disappointing.

And I still can't get those goddamn 4" Alien Vs. Predator figures MisterPL.  It's killing me.  :(  When I can afford them nobody has them, and when I can't afford them I can track a case down (that's about it, never individual figures for the $10-ish price).

I knew I should have bought the case when I had the chance. Sorry, Jesse. Hopefully the Microman figures will out-do the Snap Kits and be easier to find.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 26, 2005, 01:07 AM
The license to Skycaptain's weird to me too...  I guess the company, as I understand it, that was trying to license that film just asked them to whip a plane up in the film's deco...  Since they had a P-40 (it's not a Mustang btw, different planes) tooled and all already...

To me, it's odd, but they're getting some recognition for it...  The fact they're delving into licensing is a good sign for the company.  They've done licensing before, but generally it was something along the lines of "Dodge" selling them the license to do the Dodge Command Car, or Cargo truck from WW2...  Stuff like that. 

Their first big license was getting the Patton family rights to do George Patton items, which was surprisingly expensive.  21st is really showing that they have rebounded though, even though I've argued they have expenses and overhead that most likely surpasses large companies like Hasbro in how they must plan financially...  Plus now licensing fees.  If what I heard is right, the Platoon license wasn't anything short of pricey, even for a large company, what with acquiring the actor's likenesses and the film's rights and such.  That's a lotta bigname people who are making appearances in plastic (incredible likenesses too, just outstanding!), including Johnny Depp, Tom(d?) Berrenger, and Charlie Sheen...  Not to mention Willam Defoe.  I guess there's 6 more of the actors to come too maybe?  I dunno.

They really picked their **** up after the last couple years where financial troubles plagued them.

To me the Bridge Too Far line may be the most interesting.  :)  That's an old film...

On the note of Skycaptain, and its disappointment, the movie Sahara is also under 21st's licensing rights...  The one kid from "That Thing You Do" (The funny blonde guy) and Matthew McConnahey (sp?) are the only two getting figures I guess and they're really only gonna repaint a couple of their current vehicles and include the figures as pack-ins.  I think a stand-alone figure line would've been more impressive.  Sucks they didn't push that movie with more figures I think.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: evenflow on February 26, 2005, 09:34 AM
The face sculpts on the 12 inch for Sahara looked very good though. They did a nice job, but that can change witht he production figures.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on February 26, 2005, 10:02 AM
I'd expect that not to change actually.  21st is a very good company...  Pretty adept at taking a 1:6 head and just scaling it down for 1:18 too.  Dragon does a similar process when they whip up 1:18 figures (as rare as that is).
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on March 3, 2005, 09:36 PM
Oh look. Pictures (http://www.americandreamcomics.com/index.php?catid=174&itemid=6297).

Nice endoskeleton. Looking forward to seeing the other Terminator designs.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 3, 2005, 10:26 PM
Welp, I love the pictures John, thanks...  That's a nicely done figure it seems, lots of points of articulation if my eyes aren't deceiving me, and the word on 2 T-1000's and a "soldier" (is that the guy that goes back to save Sara Connor?), as well as the tank (hell yeah!) rock...  I just hope this isn't the LAST the line has to offer. 

On a semi-related note, I have a case of the 4" AvP figures due me now...  Just gotta get the payment to the company, and hopefully these'll arrive here soon.  I'm hoping for something great when I get them...  I don't tend to deal with people overseas, so I'm hoping this just goes ok.  Good feedback, so I should be ok, but one never knows I guess.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 5, 2005, 03:38 PM
OK, I hate dealing overseas because things are so confusing, but I believe I got payment hashed out in a simple method...  Hopefully the case arrives soon, and I'll let the thread know if I got any of the chases.  I've NEVER seen what the Alien chase is...

MisterPL, do you know if it's a queen alien?  That was the rumor I'd read several places...  The predator was an eldar with some neat accessories like a robe and things.  No word on the 2nd one though, and none on Ebay.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on March 7, 2005, 11:24 AM
I've yet to read any confirmation of the Alien chase being the Queen. That would shock me. Most chase figures just have a different accessory or unique paint app. A true 4-inch scale Queen would require larger packaging, and even a smaller one should require a new set of toolings.

I'll keep my eyes peeled, but I seriously doubt the chase is a Queen.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 7, 2005, 06:18 PM
Yeah I've not heard ANYTHING on the chase other than the queen rumor but it seemed a bit of a pipedream to me too.  Nice idea though.

That 4: snapkit line needs Colonial marines though...  At least a few of the ones who made it to the end like Hicks,e tc...

And a Ripley...  Come on! 

Can't wait.  Got my figs from a place called ABC-Express so we'll see how fast they arrive.  :)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 8, 2005, 09:54 PM
http://afigures.com/g/albums/Microman/MICROALIENPRED.jpg

These are the Microman figures MisterPL?
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on March 9, 2005, 04:03 PM
Hard to tell.  :P

Check these images out. (http://www.digital-toys.com/alienpredator4.html)

And here's a picture of the Queen prototype (http://www.action-hq.com/cgi-bin/action-hq/oth001993.html?id=sMyBJDWY). Looks like she comes with a mini-Pred. With any luck, it's Action Fleet scaled.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2005, 05:24 PM
Eh, the image showed for all of like 2 seconds I guess, hehe

Those images you posted are the same ones though, so I guess they are the same.  I'm not fond of those Predators at all.  Very toy-ish, and HUGE heads.  They look like Mardis Gras costumes!  :)

The aliens look a lot better though, and facehuggers/pods = figure goodness.  I'd buy an alien just for the accessories if that's the case, so I can have a face hugger on a stormtrooper!
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 10, 2005, 02:28 PM
Anyone know much more about the Kenner Aliens line that Muftak mentioned on Page 1?

I was told by a friend at another forum about the Alien Queen being a whole playset with a base, a bunch of eggs, some ooze...  She sounded cool and he is a scale stickler and claimed she's about 1:18 scale actually.

Also, what of the vehicles...

I saw a Marine Evac ship and a Load Lifter.  Anyone know much on these?  I'd dig having both, though I feel sure the Marine ship's not to-scale, but I wanted it for a Star Wars custom.

Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on March 11, 2005, 11:05 AM
I have the Kenner Alien Queen Playset. It is pretty sweet, and it seems pretty close to 1:18 scale, though I'm not really sure how big the Aliens Queen was supposed to be. McFarlane's Queen is more impressive to me, and seems closer to the scale of the one seen in AvP. (Or maybe she just looked huge. Have to watch it again.)

I also have the Load Lifter which desperately needs a better paint job. The detail's not bad, but it's not "collector quality," IMO. After seeing what McFarlane did with Mifune's APU from The Matrix, I was hoping they'd offer a Load Lifter in a 4-inch scale.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 11, 2005, 02:45 PM
Interesting Mr.PL, thanks...

I have to check out the McFarlane Queen then...  I want to get one that's best detailed and to-scale.  Soemthing to compliment the Hot Toys figures on their way here...  Can't wait to put a predator in my Cantina too, heh.

I wanted the Load Lifter as a SW custom base too...  Nothing major, just something to have impy's workign with in a freighter's bays or something.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on March 11, 2005, 03:01 PM
That's an interesting ideer. I bought the APU to add something special to Durge's arsenal.  ;D
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 15, 2005, 01:50 AM
Well, I can't find the Kenner Alien Queen Playset as easily as I'd have liked...  It looks better than McFarlane's to me, but I can't find one readily for sale.  I'm hoping to though...  The scale of the McFarlane one seems odd.  I know the human's bigger than a SW figure but the queen's small it seems, I dunno.

The Kenner playset, I figured, was not only a neat queen but also the set itself is pretty great looking I figured. 

Be great if I could mimic the "sticky" look they had in the films to stick victims to the walls.  A few Imperials stuck to walls?  Come on!  That'd rock, think about it!  Set that up around the Kenner playset with the queen popping out eggs...  That's a cross-over waiting to happen folks.

A stormtrooper with his chest being blown out by the jaws of an Alien too?  Fuggetaboutit!
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 15, 2005, 11:42 PM
Interesting too, the ad for the 4" Snapkit Alien Vs. Predator figures says USCM's too Mr. PL (and others interested).  Could it be we'll see a 4" scaled Vasquez, Hicks, or the rest of the squad?

I'd take ANY of those ASAP.  :)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on March 18, 2005, 08:02 PM
Jesse, you need to click here (http://spawn.com/toys/series.aspx?series=267).

Probably not the most poseable figures in the world, but that Birth of the Hybrid boxed set has me curious. And there's your 4-inch scale Queen.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 19, 2005, 02:13 AM
Hmmmm....  Thanks man, I appreciate these helpful links Mr.PL.

Sounds like a possible replacement, or at least temporary one, but I'm still intrigued on the Kenner set with the (likely) more poseable figure and eggs with slime.  I dig eggs with slime...  Just keep picturing a great custom diorama of Imperials stuck to the walls of her nest, slime on some...  Couple laying on the floor with their chests burst open.

Morbid, but so damn cool!

EDIT:

Part of me also holds a TREMENDOUS ammount of hope now though that McFarlane sees perhaps that the 4"-ish scale's superior...  That perhaps he'll start catering to it more.  He may make some of the worlds shittiest toys but as stand-in items they'll work, and if they're mini dioramas/playsets then the more the merrier.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 19, 2005, 03:26 AM
Hmmm, further investigating and all the Series 2 are in the 4 to 4.5" range...  Including a captive human.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on March 21, 2005, 01:54 PM
Jesse, check this out (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50283&item=5964651539&rd=1).

I found one of these at my local Suncoast today. They're made by a compnay named "Mirage." It looks bigger than 3 inches tall in person. Not terrific articulation (none but the shoulders and neck from what I could tell) but it could make an interesting place holder.

Personally I'm passing since $6.99 is a bit pricey for a little plastic statue, especially considering what Palisades is doing.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 21, 2005, 05:23 PM
Thanks Mr.PL, I appreciate that...  Fodder is fodder I figure.  I'll maybe buy one just to have the pieces for droid parts and things...

The Endoskeleton is one of the best bases to doing a Dark Forces darktrooper: Phase 1, so the head alone there would be a great start.

Appreciate the link, I may take a look at Suncoast for one of those.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on March 24, 2005, 12:44 PM
There's a photo of the "Birth of the Hybrid" boxed set in this month's Previews.

Basically, it's a diorama of the end of the movie, with one Predator standing guard (presumably) and another laying on the slab with the hybrid popping out of his chest.

It'll be worth it for the diorama alone. VERY nice.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 24, 2005, 05:01 PM
Interesting indeed.  And that's a McFarlane thing, so the diorama should be pretty great itself.

What is the "hybrid" though? 
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Famine on March 24, 2005, 05:36 PM
The hybrid is a Predalien.

:)

Kevin
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on April 5, 2005, 02:40 PM
I hope you don't mind blind packaging (http://www.palisadestoys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=225046).

Palisades has already announced their Planet of the Apes line will feature blind packaging. Now it seems their Terminator 2 line may as well.

Apparently the Army of Darkness 2-packs weren't selling as well as they'd hoped, and retailers are more willing to buy a whole case of blind-packaged figures than 2-packs of a main character and an army builder. It also reduces costs, though it remains to be seen if that savings will trickles down to the consumer level or if it'll just go to the manufacturer and retailers' bottom lines.

I'm not happy about this, even though I know there are ways around it (ala the AvP Snap Kits). I really like to see what I'm buying. So long as the case ratios are in the favor of the army-building figures, I don't mind as much. I'll take an extra Gorilla Soldier or Endoskeleton any day, but I'd like a fair shot at a Cornelius or Sarah Conner figure as well.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 5, 2005, 10:50 PM
Yeah, not sure how I feel either... 

I don't usually look hard at packaging, and I don't look hard for paint aps unless it's a SW figure, but if this is gonna be a thing where you don't know if you're getting your 4th John Connor or the one figure you do need, then that would suck butt. 

If it's army builders galore, I wouldn't care at all though either.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 12, 2005, 10:28 PM
MisterPL (and all),

Got my Hot Toys figure case in the mail today.  WOW.  Kicking ass and taking names.

I have 2 gripes really...

-Fragile...  If you don't heat them with hot water during construction, you risk a lot with these.  I broke a ball/socket on an Alien already and am desperately trying to fix it with a screw/rivet type method...  I shoulda been a neurosurgeon with this kind of intricate work. :)

-Fall apart Easily...  Kind of more a problem with Predators than Aliens though.  It's annoying that he pops apart a little too easy for my liking. 

Now...

They're fairly poseable figures...  The Aliens are a bit moreso than the Preds, as the preds are hindered at times by looser joints and their armor.  The preds sport tremendously superior detail, which is no slight on the Aliens who are among the most intricately sculpted figures in this scale I've EVER SEEEN. 

The Preds just feature everything from a REAL necklace of mini-skulls (Yes, a piece of string with teeny tiny skulls), to their mesh suits, and separately sculpted teeth pincer thingies.  The Preds just wow you.  Their knives fit in sheaths, their backpack gun swivels and aims with a multi-jointed arm.

To import these it cost $10-ish a figure.  Hasbro just found a new benchmark to meet because I'm sure in Asia these are about the same price as a regular SW figure is in the states.

So these are pretty incredible...  Plus I think I got a chase figure of an Alien.

MisterPL, did you get a red-colored alien?  The packaging doesn't show anything save for a translucent alien, a "grid" alien, a basic "warrior" alien, and a different warrior with his mouth open and the inner-jaws out. 

I also got this RED alien though.  Completely different from the others and not listed on the packaging.  I did not get the Eldar predator which irks me.  I wanted him pretty badly but to no avail.

Did you get that one MisterPL?  Or this red alien?  Or did anyone get one of these for that matter?
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on April 13, 2005, 10:26 AM
Sounds like you got the mysterious chase Alien, Jesse. This is the first I've heard of a red Alien. The only figures I got were the "grid" Alien, a Warrior Alien, and one of the Preds.

I hear you about the construction. Heating these in boiling water is the only way to go. I came close to snapping a ball (in more ways than one) early, so I went with the boil & pop method. No problems there.

My joints have stayed pretty tight, but my Predator necklace did come untied, so I have to do something about that. Otherwise, these are some pretty nice figures.

I've got my Pred standing next to my Mynock Hunt Chewie. They look great together. Very chummy.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 13, 2005, 10:47 AM
I have the warrior alien holding a limp VOTC Stormtrooper by the head/helmet...  To say this looks cool is an understatement.  Looks like someone just had a run-in with a nasty Imperial bio-weapons experiment.  :P

The only pred I've put together, and perhaps this was a bad idea, was the clear one.  I found that just visually it's tougher to put together so maybe I should've put together a basic pred.

I'll take pictures with my half-assed hand-me-down camera I got from my gf.  The pics will be sorta grainy but I like having something to take pictures with so she was kind enough to give me her old one here.

I'm thinking if I can get a very thin brass tack, I can cut angled "barbs" in it, and potentially drill a hole THROUGh the broken off ball and a little into the leg of the Alien that I broke the ball off of.  The barbs on the tack should anchor the tack into the plastic then, and if I can sorta form the tack's head so it fits flush with the ball then I should be able to salvage this Alien 100% without losing any range of motion, nor having any visible work I did.

We'll see.

The red alien's somewhat a mystery then since it doesn't list what it is...  I'm sorta curious what its name/species is or whatever.

The grid one's paintjob is funky, and I like that they have see-through skulls too.  The Hot Toyz company went all out on this stuff.  Now, we really need to see some USCM figures because having seen the Predator, I am sure they can knock out human figures that are just as great.

Oh, one other gripe on the predators.

His backpack/hunting gun really kinda blows because his dreds get in the way of it functioning.  I don't have it on my clear pred at all, but I'm pondering a way to maybe customize a pred with "cloth" dreds so I can have one with a working pack/gun.  I dunno.  I found a place I can buy individuals for $9 each so I may just try that then.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on April 13, 2005, 11:06 AM
Now, we really need to see some USCM figures because having seen the Predator, I am sure they can knock out human figures that are just as great.

According to the Hot Toys site (http://www.hottoys.com.hk/news_content.html), USCM are on the way this year. I'm there.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 14, 2005, 01:31 AM
I'll take a "General Hicks" figure in Star Wars!  :)

Be nice if they cranked out a lot of those though...  Generics would be fine too, if they didn't wanna piss around with "Vasquez", "Hicks", and the like...  Be nice if they did though.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 14, 2005, 03:25 AM
Oh man, these pics suck, but htis was my lame attempt at showing an ill-fated Stormtrooper patrol on an alien-infested world...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Furious-George/Hq1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Furious-George/Hq0.jpg)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on April 14, 2005, 01:56 PM
Yeah, the pics kinda suck, but we get the picture. You're having fun, and that's the point.  ;D

Now gimme some T2 endoskeletons to join the Seperatist ranks... ;)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 14, 2005, 06:19 PM
Yeah, this camera is old, but she gave it to me for free since she got one to replace it that's much superior...  I can't complain since I was camera-less.  :)

I wanted to just show how compatible the Hot Toyz figs are with Star Wars figures really, not going for any "diorama of the year" prize there.  I just threw my portfolio binder open real quick for a background (innovative?  Eh) and voila... 

The alien seems around the right scale to me though people have debated that with me.  I recall seeing production of the Aliens movies though and guys inc ostumes were often used, so the Aliens aren't huge.  Only certain ones would be bigger than the average person.  Plus the alien CAN stand taller than a human, but it's not HUGE. 

Predator figs stand about right too.  The guy that played the Predator in the first Pred movie was from Pittsburgh actually.  He's a big dude, but still in the realm of a basketball player or "Wookiee" type height.  The Preds seem ok then to me.  They're bigger than most SW figures.

I'll snap grainy pictures of a pred with some sw figs and of the "Chase" alien too, which is what I'm just assuming this is at this point.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on April 15, 2005, 10:18 AM
As I recall, the original Alien was pretty tall. I'm guessing around the 7-foot range. Considering the performer's face was in the creature's neck and the Alien head was on top of that, I'd say it might even have been taller. (I'll have to dig through my olde Starlog magazines for pics.)

The Aliens in the second movie were so abundant, "normal" sized actors were used. I attribute the difference in sizes due to the hosts; if the Alien in the first movie was a result of the huge Space Jockey, naturally it would be bigger. Likewise offspring of human hosts would take on more human characteristics, including height.

The only PURE Alien might be the Queen, but even she probably underwent some creative license here and there.

Let's just say that these figures ROCK next to Hasbro's Star Wars line.  ;D

And speaking of the Space Jockey, wasn't a statue made of that thing? I wonder if it was close to 1:18 scale.  ;)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on April 15, 2005, 10:32 AM
And speaking of the Space Jockey, wasn't a statue made of that thing? I wonder if it was close to 1:18 scale.  ;)

Nevermind (http://www.spookyplanet.com/Web2003/products.php?p=02839a). It's only 10" tall. And at $200 and 14 lbs, I'll wait to see if McFarlane offers one at $25.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 6, 2005, 12:54 AM
Wonder what's up with these?

I saw some Terminator figs at Suncoast recently, but they didn't look 4" scale nor articulated.  I didn't have a ton of time so I didn't get to check the manufacturer.  The only 4" definite I saw was an Endoskeleton that was like a little statue (walking on skulls and stuff).  That was it...

Hope these are still on tap, as I'm pretty curious how good they'd be for fodder.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 27, 2005, 05:12 AM
I've now seen some pictures of the next Hot Toys AvP line...  Looks sweet.

If you get all 8 you get pieces to build a 12" Alien Queen too I guess.  Among the new stuff was an Eldar Predator, a "Transforming" Predator, a chest-bursting predator, open and closed Alien Eggs, a Grid Alien, Warrior Alien, and Scar Predator...

Not sure what is up with those eggs.  They better be something more than just set dressing or they'll be ****** for $10-ish.

I'm in for a set though I think...  I'm pleased as punch with the Hot Toys figures I got.  They fit in well with Star Wars, and look BIG compared to average human figures just like they should.  A little unstable/limp and wanna fall over at times, but they work. 

My aliens give me more fits than my Predators...  They can be a real bitch to stand up.  It's a balance on the legs and tail.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Commander Cody on July 10, 2005, 01:53 AM
Hey guys. Want a pic of the starting lineup? ;D

(http://www.graveyardrecords.com/images/t2_low.jpg)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2005, 02:14 AM
Nice pics...

They all look great and spot-on accurate.  The Endoskeleton is my favorite and shall make the best customs fodder.  Hell, he's pretty much the perfect phase I Darktrooper base.  Just give him the cutting arm/shield and he's set pretty much.

The female arms will be fantastic fodder.  I hope the headgear (glasses and/or hats) are remoable.  That'd make the cop and Sarah Conner's heads useable for customs.

The T-1000 (is that his #?) looks great.  Amazing likeness to the actor that played him.  Right down to the Taxi Cab with the doors open ears.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Commander Cody on July 10, 2005, 02:11 PM
Did you know that Palisades does not have the rights to create Arnold's likeness? They were allowed to make a basic likeness however, without any details. I think they pulled it off rather well!

PS If anyone was wondering, the guy to the far right is a resistance fighter.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2005, 09:28 PM
I thought he was a SWAT dude from near the end of the film...  Cool.  Hope for more resistance fighters then.

The likeness to Arnold's surprisingly close for a company without likeness rights.  He likely didn't give a huge **** about it I'd think.

Bummer he's not "clean".  I'd liked to have made a "General" from the Empire using Arnold's head. :)  Or an Alliance Commando...  Comeon, you know you want a Rebel Commando that's like Arnold!

Oh well...  Nice pics, and I hope this line continues...  I'd take quite a few more figures.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Nathan on July 10, 2005, 10:34 PM
Spiffy! That trooper dude would fit perfectly into Star Wars sets as an Imperial mechanic or Republic support infantry or something.

Not a big fan of the likeness on the T-1000 though.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: MisterPL on September 7, 2005, 11:36 AM
There's another sneak peek of resin models over at the Palisades boards (http://www.palisadestoys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11384). They're not painted, but the poses illustrate how awesome the articulation will be. The bullet-ridden T-1000 looks particularly sweet.

Now that this line won't be blind boxed, I'm totally buying into this line.  ;D
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on October 30, 2005, 02:39 AM
It gets better MisterPL (where the hell you at?) as it seems Palisades has on tap for next year (in 1:18 articulated figure realm):

-Planet of the Apes
-Terminator
-Predator!
&
-Aliens (w/Colonial Marines!)

Holy ****!  I just wet myself.

And if that Predator line isn't AvP but rather Predator 1, and MAYBE would include figures of the Commando unit...  Well that's it.  I'm spent.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Nathan on October 30, 2005, 08:36 PM
Teh awesomeness x10000!!!11!

Seriously, that's wicked cool. That's practically one of my life dreams to have 3.75" scale Alien and Pred figures to mingle with my SW stuff. POTA and Termie figures are just icing on the cake.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on October 31, 2005, 12:36 AM
I WILL have Apes in my Cantina.

I'm hoping for grand fodder from all this though...  A Terminator Endo Skeleton is what I've hoped for to use as a Phase I Darktrooper for ages now.  Just need to add the blade/shield to his arm and voila!
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on January 13, 2006, 12:37 AM
Uh, holy ****.

(http://www.palisadestoys.com/features/Terminator/T2_Photos/t1000.jpg)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Ryan on January 13, 2006, 01:15 AM
Those look fantastic. I can see myself buying multiples of the Endo Skeleton for customizing. Someone has probably already answered this but how much are these and where will they be availible?
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on January 13, 2006, 01:21 AM
I'm assuming we'll see either the $15-ish pricepoint the Army of Darkness line carried, or we'll see a price reduction due to that line's failure at retail.  I'm curious on price though.  I'd love two figs for $10 but I can't imagine it right now.

The figures are looking great though.  Cool.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on January 13, 2006, 01:22 AM
(http://www.palisadestoys.com/features/Terminator/T2_Photos/fighter.jpg)
(http://www.palisadestoys.com/features/Terminator/T2_Photos/sarahcon_03.jpg)
(http://www.palisadestoys.com/features/Terminator/T2_Photos/t800_03.jpg)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Spectre on January 21, 2006, 05:55 AM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there is a strong chance that they will not see the light of day. It been reported that Palisades Toys has gone belly-up in the last 2 weeks or so :(   If these things have already been manufactured, hoefully they will end up in close-out stores like Big Lots or even dumped clearance priced at KB depending on who bought out Palisades' assets.

Palisades has not updated anything on their site in quite some time and their e-bay store is empty. They appear to be liquidating everything but the desks their employees sit at through their Palisades Direct portion of their website (which is not responding as of this posting :( ).

It's a shame as they finally seem to have corrected the QC issues that plagued their first series of "Army Of Darkness" figures. I got a single Series II figure (King's Knight) for 2 bucks from a Suncoast that's closing down and it's construction is lightyears better than the 100 or so Series I figures I got on clearance this summer (no more brittle clear plastic joints!).

I was really looking forward to these :(
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on January 21, 2006, 05:57 AM
Yeah I've heard that...  Gonna hope to see these Terminator figures.  Be a shame to never get Endo Skeletons for SW customizing.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Commander Cody on February 3, 2006, 02:53 PM
****!!!!!!! I hope this line isn't screwed.
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 20, 2006, 03:20 AM
Unintentionally, images from Hong Kong Toy Fair leaked out the first glimpse of Hot Toyz's new Snap Kit figures for the Alien Vs. Predator line.  This time, all aliens AND Colonial Marines.  Let the heart attacks begin.

(http://www.chinese-starwars.com/peacemacy/toysfestival06/tf06ht54.jpg)

(http://www.chinese-starwars.com/peacemacy/toysfestival06/tf06ht53.jpg)

(http://www.chinese-starwars.com/peacemacy/toysfestival06/tf06ht52.jpg)

(http://www.chinese-starwars.com/peacemacy/toysfestival06/tf06ht06.jpg)

No Vasquez I guess, but that's ok...  for now.  I love the Ripley figure though.  And the rest are amazing too really.  Hot Toyz does good work, definitely worth integrating to your Star Wars Cantina. :)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Ryan on April 20, 2006, 03:29 AM
Are those 3 3/4" as well? Cause that would be ******* awesome. :)
Title: Re: Terminator Toy Line... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 20, 2006, 03:51 AM
I'm assuming so.  The Hot Toyz SnapKit line has been 1:18 scaled so far...  And the detail is unmatchable really.  I'm guessing they only want to do male Marines right now using the same mold for most of the parts, and maybe Vasquez and that other chick later?  Ripley looks good though... 

The construction of the figures isn't the norm for this scale, but it works well, looks good...  Very poseable, if not a tad delicate.

If you haven't got any of these figs Ryan, they're great if you like Aliens and/or Predator films.
Title: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 12, 2006, 03:06 AM
New Snap Kits posted at Hot Toyz...  Oh mama.

(http://www.hottoys.com.hk/photo/202AA1_3X4.jpg)
(http://www.hottoys.com.hk/photo/202AC4_3X4.jpg)
(http://www.hottoys.com.hk/photo/202AA3_3X4.jpg)
(http://www.hottoys.com.hk/photo/202AB1_3X4.jpg)
(http://www.hottoys.com.hk/photo/202AB3_3X4.jpg)
(http://www.hottoys.com.hk/photo/202AC2_3X4.jpg)
(http://www.hottoys.com.hk/photo/202Apone1_3x4.jpg)
(http://www.hottoys.com.hk/photo/202Drake1_3x4.jpg)
(http://www.hottoys.com.hk/photo/202Hicks1_3x4.jpg)
(http://www.hottoys.com.hk/photo/202Ripley1_3x4.jpg)

This is the new wave due out in June.  I still gotta get Wave 2, ugh...   ::)

Product description...  I hope these are 1:18 like the other lines, not some bull**** scale.
Quote
Product description

~Each Snap Kit stands 4 inches high

Designs include:

~ RIPLEY
~ HICKS
~ APONE
~ DRAKE
~ ALIEN Type A
~ ALIEN Type B
~ ALIEN Type C
~ ALIEN Type A ( Battle Damaged)
~ ALIEN Type B ( Battle Damaged)
~ ALIEN Type C ( Battle Damaged)

##total 10 designs

Product Highlights:

* 1/6 scale ALIEN eggs package design
* Each SNAP KITS come with figure base
* Simple assembly required
* Fully articulated after assembly

Aliens TM & (C) 1985, 2006 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 12, 2006, 03:21 AM
Oh ****...

So I blew these images up.  I am praying these are 4" figures.  They must be...  And they come in, from what I read there, 1:6 scale (12" figure) Alien egg packages?  Are you f'n kidding me?  Now THERE is marketing people...  THAT is how you get people interested in EVERY aspect of collecting.  Imagine if 3.75" SW figures came in some kind of packaging you used for collecting?  Incredible.

The articulation looks better on the marines anyway.  Looks like there's sturdier joints to plug in.  More gear too by far.  I'm hoping removable helmets, not glued on stuff with half-heads.  I want Hicks and Apone for custom SW heads as well as my aliens figures.  Ripley is a great generic female head, and Drake looks really rocking.  Good arms for customs it seems...  Bare-armed figures and ****.  Sleeves up are hard to find good in this scale too.

Not to mention the pulse rifles and stuff look great...  I must have the other Marines now though and the android...

Oh and not to mention the KICK ASS aliens in this set too.  3 types, all unique, and all more true to the Aliens film as opposed to Alien or AvP...  They have the "human" physique, very cool, and not only do you get 3 types but you get THREE battle damaged types in the series too with bullet holes and crap.

The only thing I want now is face huggers that can latch to faces, and I'd like to see figures from the Nostramus's crew in Alien...  Maybe some Alien Resurrection figures too since there were interesting characters there and LOTS of good stuff to build on.  A playset would be so awesome but not in this company's style.  Who wouldn't want a hallway set though, or a Resurrection Alien holding pen or something...  Oh!  I know now, I want a colonist victim figure with chestburster.  We need chestbursters from this company too, forgot those.

Oh and I want the wormy guy from My Two Dads too...  I don't recall his character's name off-hand but I want that figure.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on May 16, 2006, 01:34 PM
I'm not familiar with these Snap Kits.  Are they more like the Gundam kits that were out than regular snap together models (cars, planes and the like)?  Because if they are then I might be interested in picking up the Marines when they come out. 

Anyone know how many points of articulation these might have?

  E...
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 16, 2006, 06:12 PM
Eric, I have Wave I (I still need Wave II though).

They're more close to a Gundam, in that they build a super articulated figure, and they're fragile like a Gundam is.  They are cool though and 4" scale...  Very great detailed sculpts, ok for accessories (well, the Preds were anyway, and the humans look good).

They have:

-2 ball/socket shoulders
-2 ball/socket elbows
-2 ball/socket wrists
-2 ball/socket hips
-2 ball/socket knees
-2 ball/socket ankles
-1 ball/socket torso
-1 ball/socket neck

Every joint's held together via an hourglass pin...  They are prone to falling apart when posing them but nothing too major.  They hold poses and stuff pretty well.

Sculpts are unmatched by anyone, including McFarlane's attempts...  They're great.  Real skull necklaces on the preds, it's cool.

The humans look BETTER articulated by my eyes, and maybe better constructed.  I must have the Marines and Ripley series, plus the "Aliens" aliens look amazing.  They got the costume of the alien down right for that film, while the AvP ones are down right for that film...  Nice eyes for detail they have instead of just re-issuing S1
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Gregorbian on May 16, 2006, 08:48 PM
Holy crap.  Wow.  Amazing  :o

These figures are so cool!  I picked up some of Series I and II from Serpant on eBay.  Excellent figures, the detail is phenominal.  The articulation is good, but I wish they were a bit sturdier.  Still, as Jesse said, they hold their poses well and the parts fit together easily (with a little bit of heating).  I wish these were avaible in the States for a decent price.  I would really like to pick up one or two a week from my local comic shop. 
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 17, 2006, 12:29 AM
What I find amazing, and this is the type of crap taht annoys me about US Toys, is that these things are really the kind of thing in Asia you'd be able to buy just on the checkout line at the local store...  They're like candy bars or something.

US toy manufacturers are moving this way but Hasbro's so stuck in their ways...  Asian toys are a whole other bag though.  I mean, you get a SA figure at the checkout...  Sure it's blindpacked but it's probably incredibly cheap to purchase overseas. 

I'd kill for snapkit SW figures in the states like these...  Blind pack them, I don't care, they'd be fun to collect and build... 
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on May 17, 2006, 12:32 AM
Thanks for the info Jesse.  Now I have another question.  Anyone know how these compare to the Takara Microman figures that came out last year?

I passed on the Predator figures last year and I'm kind of kicking myself now but if these are better than the Takara stuff maybe I'll jump on these.

   E...
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 17, 2006, 03:18 AM
Sculpts are better than Takara's, but I hear Takara's have better gear/accessories...  From what I've seen they do anyway.  The aliens/preds only come with some weapons like a knife/sheath, arm blades, necklace, backpack, and a pike, and throwing disc...  Not a lot from what I hear compared to the Takara figures.

I've seen the Takara figures though and the sculpts are anime-ish if you ask me.  Not realistic at all.  The Snap Kit Hot Toyz figures are spot-on realism and great painting too.  Paintjobs that blow Hasbro out of the water.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on May 17, 2006, 11:02 AM
Thanks again, Jesse.

I think I might keep my eyes open for the Predator Takara figs at Wizard World Philly but I'll probably be picking up a couple of these Hot Toys Marines at least.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Gregorbian on May 17, 2006, 10:40 PM
Thanks for the info Jesse.  Now I have another question.  Anyone know how these compare to the Takara Microman figures that came out last year?

I passed on the Predator figures last year and I'm kind of kicking myself now but if these are better than the Takara stuff maybe I'll jump on these.

   E...

Jesse pretty much said it all.  I have both the Microman and the Takara Predators and Aliens figures and they are both awesome. 

The Microman figures have that distinctive Microman Style, but they are sturdier and they do come with a ton of accessories.  They pose a little bit better because their lims are slightly thinner and therefore there is more room for them to move.

The Takara figures look more "realistic" and are more accurately proportioned.  They come with less accessories, but they still come with very decent accessories (spears, throwing blades, gauntlet-blades, shoulder cannons, animal skull necklace, shin sheath with knife). 

I recommend buying both if you can.  If you want more "realistic" figures, then buy the Takara ones.  If you want cheaper ones, buy the Takara ones (there is an eBay seller selling them for $8 a piece, I and Fritzkrieg have bought from him and he was a very good seller).  If you like the Microman style, want more accessories, and want a sturdier figure, then buy the Microman figures. 

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 18, 2006, 12:38 AM
Those Marines aren't out yet too btw.  The "Aliens" series is due in June I think I mentioned above but now I forget what I said...  haha.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jim on May 18, 2006, 02:17 PM
Ive been looking for the series one for a while.  Anyone know a place online?
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Gregorbian on May 18, 2006, 10:11 PM
I don't want to post a direct link, but if you search for "hot toys AVP snap kits" and look under the eBay stores, you'll find a guy that has some series 1 and some series 2 for $8 a piece plus shipping.  He's great with communication and he ships very quickly.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 19, 2006, 01:37 AM
Go ahead and post a link, I think we can let it slide (unless I'm told otherwise) this time around.  There's really no other way to get these that I'm aware of...  Unless Robby.jp who sells a number of import things to US folks is able to get these too?

I've never dealt with him, but i know some of our Canucklehead friends have done so to get the RC Astromechs.  He may be a good alternative.

$8 a piece is a buy though, honestly.  I paid $10 each probably, and thought I did well compared to prices I saw elsewhere.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jim on May 19, 2006, 07:38 AM
Can anyone also list a breakdown of the waves and who is in them?
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Gregorbian on May 19, 2006, 10:03 AM
Go ahead and post a link, I think we can let it slide (unless I'm told otherwise) this time around.  There's really no other way to get these that I'm aware of...  Unless Robby.jp who sells a number of import things to US folks is able to get these too?

Okedokee,
Hot Toys AVP snap kits - Alien vs Predator (http://cgi.ebay.com/Hot-Toys-AVP-snap-kits-Alien-vs-Predator-4-figure_W0QQitemZ6053061239QQcategoryZ348QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
He's down to about 3 of them as of this post, but I recommend sending him an e-mail.  He was very responsive to me and I'm pretty sure he has more than he lists in his auction (I think this is his second listing of these figures).

Can anyone also list a breakdown of the waves and who is in them?

This is from his eBay auction:
Series 1
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999@rogers.com/AVPClear.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999@rogers.com/AVPChopper.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999@rogers.com/AVPCeltic.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999@rogers.com/AVPScar.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999@rogers.com/AVPBattle.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999@rogers.com/AVPWarrior.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999@rogers.com/AVPGrid.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999@rogers.com/AVPTranslucent.jpg)

Series 2
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999b@rogers.com/AVPScarPredator.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999b@rogers.com/AVPChesbusterPredator.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999b@rogers.com/AVPClearPredator.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999b@rogers.com/AVPGridAlien.jpg)
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999b@rogers.com/AVPWarriorAlien.jpg)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 20, 2006, 01:08 AM
The breakdown does NOT include chase figures...  There's a number of rares, usually repaints or exclusive accessories, that were blind packed in S1.  I don't know if S2 ran chases or not.  I don't recall seeing any.

There's also a Hot Toyz exclusive Alien from S1...  The HT exclusive has a white brain inside the head, it's very odd. 

I, out of dumb luck, got a chase alien in my case I ordered of S1.  It's not listed anywhere I've ever seen.  It's a blood red alien.  Veyr weird, and I've never opened/built it.  It's the basic warrior alien though cast in a dark red color, and stands out.

I believe the chase Predator in S1 was the Eldar predator which was re-released as a basic in the S2 wave of figures.  The Alien however, which was the blood red one I have and which as I noted has never been really listed, hasn't seen re-release.  It makes it a real gem to me in that regard. :)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Fritzkrieg on May 25, 2006, 07:34 AM
I finally Got Some Better Pics of the aliens Snap-Kits
(http://ca.geocities.com/serpant999b@rogers.com/ALIENSSK2.jpg)
(http://hobbyworld.aoshima-bk.co.jp/g_library2/HTT/HTT06051701b.jpg)
(http://hobbyworld.aoshima-bk.co.jp/g_library2/HTT/HTT06051701c.jpg)
(http://hobbyworld.aoshima-bk.co.jp/g_library2/HTT/HTT06051701e.jpg)

Pretty Sweet ;D
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 26, 2006, 12:56 AM
Nice pics Fritz...

I love the fact they package them in 1:6 scale eggs now.  NOt that I collect 1:6 scale Aliens figures, but the principle behind tying two scales together by making the smaller scale's packaging useful to the larger scale is revolutionary really.  I wish Hasbro had innovations like that...  Packaging that somehow was useable as diorama pieces, or just something fun like that...  I'm not talking the half-assed 3-D cardboard bases either, but something substantial like Hot Toyz has here.

Those humans look great though anyway...  The Aliens do too actually, but I'm just drawn to the fact we finally have 3.75"-4" scaled Aliens Colonial Marines...  I truly hope we get Vasquez and the others here though...  Apone and Drake are somewhat odd obscure choices so I hope the others come in a 2nd Aliens wave...  I'd love Paul Reiser's character too, to kind of replace Ripley as the non-marine in the wave.  Him or the android, either way.

These figures make me long for bases, playsets, and vehicles now.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Matt on May 26, 2006, 01:07 AM
I'd love Paul Reiser's character too


Burke.   

>:(

Quote
Him or the android, either way.

Artificial person. 

 >:( >:(
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 26, 2006, 03:12 AM
Look here Grandma...  :)

Yeah I'm not a particularly devoute Aliens fan obviously...  I can just recall certain names, but thanks.

And I'm now going to call him a robot just to annoy.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on May 27, 2006, 01:12 AM
Actually, Jesse, Hasbro does have some innovative packing in their Sigma 6 Joe line.  The $15 figures have a weapons locker that's made using the plastic top and bottom of the packaging.

It's a good 1:6 scale accessory and because of the anime-style figures which have oversized hands, many of their accessories are usable with 1:6 figures.  Spirit's bow, for example, is a great 1:6 item as is the sniper rifle that comes with Long Range.

I do like the looks of the Marines coming from Hot Toys.  Besides some Star Wars comics I'm pretty much on the lookout only for some of the current Hot Toys kits at Wizard World next week.  I'm hoping to find a couple so I can check them out in person before ordering up a case.

    E...
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 27, 2006, 04:29 AM
True...  But where's that with Star Wars?  That was more what I was getting at though you're right, the Sigma 6 weapons cases are probably some of the more innovative packages to come out in a while.

Be nice if Hasbro put that effort into Star Wars though...  Considering these lines are the same scale, etc...  I'm not sure what they could do though honestly but I'm sure there's something I just can't come up with right now.

These are showing pre-orders now so I can't wait to get a set soon I hope...  I gotta get Wave 2 first I think, but I may cave and get these instead simply because they're much more appealing.  Wave 2 of the AvP's were ok in some ways but the two egg bases really felt like a hosejob for the price if you ask me.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: don on June 2, 2006, 03:20 PM
These have begun to appear on Ebay now. This is not my auction, so I am not pimping it, but there are some great pictures here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Hot-Toys-ALIENS-RIPLEY-Snap-Kits-predator-Full-Case_W0QQitemZ6060896404QQihZ009QQcategoryZ90910QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 2, 2006, 03:56 PM
Yeah there's better options to buy for US buyers than ABC-Express for certain.  That comes, before shipping, to $117+ it said...  Yowza.

Those figures are so freaking awesome to me though.  :)  I'll get my case when the better priced dealers start selling.  I've gotta get S2 yet also...  Ugh.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jim on June 3, 2006, 02:22 PM
Okay, can anyone help me out with where to track down some of these?  I collect only Aliens figures, so I am trying to acquire the first couple series without any of the Predators.  Links would help or PM if that is frowned on. 
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 5, 2006, 01:32 AM
Just search Ebay for Aliens Predators Snap-Kits and it'll bring up whoever's selling them.  However a page back someone did link up with a seller that does good on these on Ebay.

I'd say the S1 are becoming harder to find.  Ihaven't seen any lately on Ebay that I can think of. :(
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on June 5, 2006, 09:32 AM
I was hoping to find some of these at WW Philly on Friday but after searching the entire dealer area a couple times I came up empty. 

I found a Canadian seller on eBay that had 20 pieces listed for $8 BIN each.  Both series 1 and 2.  I ordered 5 and got one each of the Scar, Celtic and Clear Predator and Battle and Warrior Aliens.  It was $50 shipped to the US.

The guy has good feedback and answered my questions quickly so now I'm waiting to see if they come through.

   E...
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jim on June 5, 2006, 03:49 PM
Is there any difference between the Series 1 and Series 2 Warrior and Grid Aliens?

And is this the correct breakdown for Alien figs no including chase figs.

Series 1

Battle Alien
Warrior Alien
Grid Alien
Queen Alien (not sure if this is Series 1 or 2)

Series 2

Warrior Alien
Grid Alien

Series 3

Marine #1
Marine #2
Marine #3
Ripley

Not sure how many Aliens are in Series 3.  Help anyone?


Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 6, 2006, 01:40 AM
S1
-Warrior
-Grid
-Battle
-Chase Red Warrior
-Exclusive w/Silver or White "Brains"

S2
-Alien Egg closed
-Alien Egg opened
-Warrior
-Grid
-Alien Queen (only obtained by buying one of every figure in S2 to build her)

S3
-Alien Warrior A
-Alien Warrior B
-Alien Warrior C
-Alien Warrior w/Battledamage A
-Alien Warrior w/Battledamage B
-Alien Warrior w/Battledamage C

The warrior's sculpt is new too by my judgement, and is the Aliens look with the more human leg looks and less canine legs.  AT least that's how it appeared to me.

Efranks' seller out of Canada is probably the same guy linked last page.  The guy sells cheaply (more or less), and will pick out figures you want, so for me he's the guy I'm going to to build a small Alien army...  I use these mxied in with SW figures ina  cross-over way.  My preds look good in the Cantina. :)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jim on June 9, 2006, 08:28 PM
I got around to picking up a set of Series 1 and 2 Aliens.  Wish I could find the Queen at a decent price.

I really have neglected adding to my Aliens collection over the last few years and seems I have missed out on a ton of really nice stuff.  Most of the stuff coming from Asia and quite pricey. 

Interested to know if anyone else collects any other Aliens lines  on the side?  Could use some suggestions.  I have all the McFarlane and Kenner figs from the early 90's as well as some Japanese items.  Still a fairly small collection of around 70-80 items. I am more interested in the toys.  Anyone familar with the Konami toys, etc.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 10, 2006, 02:10 AM
I really want that Kenner Queen playset. :(
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on June 10, 2006, 02:33 AM
HLJ has Hot Toys Alien vs USCM Snap Kit 1 Box (12pcs)  (http://www.hlj.com/product/BLD19535) for $98.31.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on June 10, 2006, 02:39 AM
A quick look on RoBBY.jp has the Alien vs USCM Snap Kits for $68.83.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 10, 2006, 03:43 AM
Wonder what the shipping is though...  Yikes.  :(
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on June 13, 2006, 01:04 AM
I got my order in today from the Canadian seller.  My buddy Joe K. and I ordered together.  He got a Celtic Predator and Warrior Alien.

The three I got were the Clear and Scar Predator and Battle Alien.

The Scar Predator looks awesome.  Got a cup of hot water (just shy of boiling) and used that to soften up the parts to put them together.  Also had to use it to straighten out some accessories.  He went together pretty well.  Stands great and all of the accessories fit pretty well with the exception of the shoulder canon.  The hair is in the way.

The paint job is excellent and he looks awesome!

The Clear Predator has a really loose right hip joint so the leg pops off easily.   The peg on the leg sheath is also not formed quite right so it's not a great fit on the leg and the face mask won't stay on.  I'm a huge fan of clear figs and I'm a little disappointed in this one.  But, glad to have it anyway.

The Alien looks awesome though!  Easiest of the three to put together and the bendy tail and transparent head really take it up a notch. 

I'm wishing now I'd gone ahead and ordered all of Series 1 for myself but maybe I'll pick up the others later on.  I can't wait for the Marines now! 

Jesse and the others that recommended these figures, thanks, I really like them and I'm glad I tracked them down.

   E...
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 13, 2006, 01:20 AM
Glad you dig them E, I gotta get my order in for S2 here...  I want the Alien Queen so I'm just gonna get teh whole set then and be done with it.  They're fantastic looking though...

Then onto those awesome marines.  Love that series...  The Aliens even look cooler to me.

The only gripe I have with these figures are that they do sometimes have loose joints...  I've found that you can get the packs on if you're careful on the predators...  I had to trim pegs on knife sheaths too on a couple preds I got in my case, but they fit eventually... 

I broke a peg on one of my aliens and had to fashion an hourglass shaped peg that I inserted into a hole I dremeled into the alien's thigh.  It stuck in the hole and acted as a replacement peg and stuff.  I had to get sort of creative with it which sucked but it was my fault for not heating the alien with water first...  I just went to town putting it together and they do break easily so word of warning that you should always heat up the SOCKET portion of the figure with hot water...  Boiling won't hurt it but you might yourself, and like E said the hot water from your faucet would work fine.  Once you do that you leave the peg portion cool and heat the socket, and the peg simply pops right in. :)

I hollowed a couple figure's sockets out a bit more for a better fit...  Sometimes I think I made things worse, but overall I did ok and none of my figures was ruined by me.  It's just that, as I noted, some of hte joints aren't the most sturdy and that's my only gripe I have with these figures in this line...  Plus it looks like S3's Aliens line may have new and more sturdy articulation.  I'm anxious to see what the deal is.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jim on June 16, 2006, 09:23 PM
Wow!  I just recieved 6 of the hot toys Aliens and they are incredible.  I have some microman Aliens, which I thought were nice, but these seem to be a step up.  My only complaint is how fragile they are. 

For anyone eles who may have these, do you wonder why they included key chains?  There is no way these figs would hold up if used for that purpose.  On a side note, does anyone know if the McFarlane AVP Series Queen is in scale with these figs?  Its a little pricey for me to justify the hot toys queen due to the price. 

I will probably order the Marines next.  Does anyone think that since we are getting the Marines that Hot Toys may do another Predator series with characters from that first film?  Would love an Arnold, Apollo Creed and Jesse the Body ;D
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 17, 2006, 01:55 AM
I'm not sure how the licensing rights work on Aliens Vs. Pred, Aliens, Alien, Alien Resurrection, Alien 3, etc., etc., and then of course Predator 1 & 2... 

For some reason I was thinking that the licenses aren't intertwined.  That's not to say it couldn't happen though of course, I just am not sure how easy it would be.  Don't see much Predator stuff actually.

The keychain thing is weird...  Then again, these figures are weird overall.  I mean, imagine if while waiting in line to checkout, Star Wars figures were super articulated kits like this in blind packages you just picked up as you bought your groceries like this?

The keychain concept is an Asian Market thing I'm guessing...  These are seemingly meant for teens or young adults...  Their market for toys has the focus on the people with the finances.  It's really ahead of the game compared to the US Market most of the time, and thus kickass toys like this show up.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: elhonez on June 22, 2006, 03:59 PM
What is the scale like on these figures? Before I pay $100 for a set, I'd like to know how they stand up against:

Star Wars
Microman
Marvel Showdown
Palisades' Army of Darkness

etc. etc. Similar scale? Too big? Too small? Thanks!
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 22, 2006, 05:04 PM
Star Wars varies from figure to figure, but they stay within the 1:18-1:20 scale range...  I mean when you compare say the EU Airspeeder Pilot to VTSC Han SOlo you'll see what I mean clearly...  One figure is way tall the other not, yet both should be "average" height guys in the grand scheme of things (if that makes sense).

AOD figures tend to fit right into SW figure scenes...  They're common fodder for customizers.

Microman I've always felt was a hair taller on average than most SW figures...

Marvel I can't comment on, I only look at them at the stores, but I'd say they're probably more uniformed scaled and probably a HAIR taller than SW figures on average.

BBI Elite Force and 21st X-Treme Detail 1:18 military figures are spot-on 1:18 scale with height variances tossed in to represent only a taller or shorter guy here and there on purpose.  BBI's are all 1:18 pretty much, no variances even.  They may look taller than SW figures at times but honestly they blend well together.  Again customizers use them for fodder.

The AvP Snap Kit figures I've found to be perfect scale compared with SW figures...  The PReds are a bit taller, but not too much, compared to a human SW figure (most of them) and Aliens are pretty big...  Not sure on the Marines coming out and how they'll look but I have high hopes.

Welcome aboard elhonez.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jim on June 22, 2006, 08:28 PM
I collect the Showdown line and they are pretty close.  I also collect some of the Microman line and they are almost the same scale a bit smaller maybe.  The microman Alien Warrior figure was a great figure IMO.  But the hot toys version is has much better detail. Although I do like the stability of the microman figures better.  If I get a chance I will snap some pics comparing the hot toys, microman, star wars and showdown. 
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: elhonez on June 22, 2006, 11:48 PM
Thanks for the feedback Jesse, and thank you Jim -- pics would be great. I'm pretty much already sold on these, particularly the second AVP set with the build-a-queen. And I'd buy the set with the Marines no matter what the scale when it comes down to it -- they look really promising.

To weigh in on Marvel Showdown: Good character selection, nice detail, but very poorly engineered/constructed. I'm a sucker for SA figures in this scale, so I have most of them, but I'm really hoping they improve upon their overall stability in the next two waves. Scale-wise, they seem a bit too tall for some Star Wars figures (less noticeable standing against taller figures like Vader or Chewie), but almost head-to-head with Microman (Cap and Micro Batman are about the same height).
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on June 23, 2006, 12:53 AM
I took a couple pictures the other day of the two Predator and one Alien figures that I bought.  I used a Joe and Luke Skywalker for scale.

AVP Pictures (http://www.netenigma.com/starwars/avp/avp.html)

   E...
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 24, 2006, 09:34 PM
Good comparisons E...

I'd like to see some shots of the Microman Preds/Aliens with the Hot Toys figures.

I'd also like, if anyone has extras, a Microman Pred, or some of the accessories if someone happened to have any.  Namely, face huggers and chest bursters are on my want lists. :)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Fritzkrieg on July 10, 2006, 11:46 PM
I received my Aliens Snap Kits today. The detail of these kits is amazing. Hot Toys really did these right. They even did multiple paint aps on the weapon and accessories. I decided to diversify my Colonial Marines with a few head swaps. Now I just need another Tumbler so I can make these guys a kick ass vehicle. LMK what you think.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/Fritzkrieg/CMS.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/Fritzkrieg/CMS2.jpg)
Nice Kit
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/Fritzkrieg/CMS3.jpg)

The Aliens
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/Fritzkrieg/CMS4.jpg)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on July 11, 2006, 09:56 AM
They look great!  How well are they constructed, pretty sturdy or not so much? 

Nice head swaps.  Did you have to modify the Joe heads to fit the Marine bodies?

   E...
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jim on July 11, 2006, 10:42 AM
Those look great.  Will be my next pick up.  I just finished off the balance of the Kenner Aliens and Predator figures and Mcfarlane Aliens Predator line minus a few repaints. 
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Fritzkrieg on July 12, 2006, 07:44 PM
My first pics really did not do the level of detail on these Snap-Kits Justice. So, here are some sharper pics. And I through some Shots of them wearing my custom covers. I did not do a very elabrate  job on mine, just dropped some Gung Ho hats in some brown optical dye at work to give them more of an Olive drab Color.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/Fritzkrieg/Covers.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/Fritzkrieg/USCM.jpg)(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/Fritzkrieg/USCM2.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/Fritzkrieg/USCM3.jpg)(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/Fritzkrieg/USCM4.jpg)
Fritzkrieg
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jim on July 20, 2006, 02:17 PM
Anyone know what the major differences are between the McFarlane Terminator Endoskeleton versus the Neca version?
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on March 3, 2007, 12:20 AM
Good god this is so frickin cool!  :o

ALIENS Power Loader - Poseable Model Kit (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=6332)

Sideshow Collectibles and Hot Toys are proud to bring you the first ever, 1:6 scale Power Loader collectible, produced as a fully-poseable model kit. The Power Loader is large enough to fit a 12-inch figure inside, true to 1:6 scale, and includes an electronic light-up working warning signal light. This highly detailed, highly-articulated model is sure to be the centerpiece of your Aliens collection.

(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/6332_press05-001.jpg) (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/6332_press03-001.jpg)

(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/6332_press02-001.jpg)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 3, 2007, 01:13 AM
1:6 scale...  That's insane.

I so want the Hot Toys Snap Kit set for Aliens but just cannot find it for a good price...  Anyone ordering those?  WOuldn't mind getting a case myself here.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: JohnH on March 3, 2007, 04:21 PM
I was nothing short of awestruck when I saw that at Toy Fair.  It's pretty mind-blowing in person.

John
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: evenflow on March 4, 2007, 03:00 PM
The power loader is amazing, I pre-ordered that and Ripley. I already have an Alien Warrior and the Grid Alien and my Predator with decapated alien head shipped from Sideshow.

Anyone have an extra snap kit aliens or predators?
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on March 12, 2007, 09:56 PM
$249.99 US for the Power Loader & $89.99 US for the Ripley figure from Sideshow which is sold out. Total: $339.99 US.

RoBBy.jp, both for $169.00 US. Reg 28,831 yen so $245.00 US.

That is of hell of a deal!  :o
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: evenflow on March 12, 2007, 11:08 PM
yeah but how much is shipping going to be on that.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on March 15, 2007, 10:14 PM
A few bucks I must say, really pricey to ship from Japan.  :-\

Just saw this at Sideshow:

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We are pleased to announce that Hot Toys has very generously decided to include a Ripley 1:6th scale model kit with your purchase of the ALIENS Power Loader, at no extra charge! If you have already placed your pre-order for the Power Loader, rest assured that the order has already been updated, and you do not need to take any action.

Please also note that the Ripley kit included with the Power Loader is not the same as the regular, individually packaged release. The Power Loader version of Ripley will not include the jacket, some accessories, or the individual packaging. Final details are TBD.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: evenflow on March 16, 2007, 07:01 AM
I saw that too, pretty annoyed they announced this after their ripley sold out. Now i have to go through the process of returning it. No need for 2 and i could use the 100.00 towards the power loader.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 11, 2007, 04:06 AM
I have my Aliens case coming in soon...  Took me forever to buy.  Expensive as sin but that's what credit cards are for I guess.  Long-term lay-away.  ::)  Can't wait though.  Wish I could get more Marines on the cheap but for now this'll do.  God I hope HT gets more snap kits out.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 14, 2007, 04:30 AM
Got my Aliens Snap Kit case today in the mail... 

OUTSTANDING figures...  ALl of them.  You get 12 figures to a case, so you're getting doubles of two figures.  I got one extra Marine and one extra Alien.  That's cool I guess but two Marines would've been preferable of course.

The articulation has some limitations, and that is to be expected.  These aren't actually toys, they're described as "model kits", however they're bitchin' model kits to-scale to Star Wars figures.  The Aliens are BIG hulking figures, the Marines/Ripley are definitely the case's highlight though. 

The likenesses are pretty good to the characters, though the Ripley and Hicks figures are questionable...  Almost makes you think there was likeness issues involved.  The details on the uniforms are outstanding.  Every little thing like zippers, pockets, armor buckles, laces on boots, flashlights, ammo, etc., is in there somewhere...  Lots of detail.

The Marines you get are an odd mix...  Ripley and Hicks make sense as 2 of the only survivors of the movie...  You get Sgt. Appone and Cpl. Drake as well though, who if IIRC bite the big one early on during the Marine's exploration of the mining facility.  I figured you'd get Vasquez and Bill Paxton's character first, but whatever.

The figures are FRAGILE...  At first.  I broke a knee joint on Appone and had to do some knee replacement with my extra Marine (I got 2 Drakes).  This annoys the ever loving piss out of me, but it's my own fault for not taking the time I needed to, and doing this at home where I had a hot pot to boil water and do this intricately.  The figures need hot water to snap most of the joints together, and it's a good idea to loosen the complex knee joint (it's weird) with boiling water.  The figures have a knee joint exactly like Bespin Vader's in that it is a self-contained point of articulation that snaps into a calf piece and up into a thigh piece separately.  Cool, but it's uber fragile as I noted, and the pin broke on Appone.  I think it's made of styrene though, and I'll be able to weld it with the proper adhesive.

The Aliens could use some accessories, especially since you essentially are buying the same figure in various decoes... S ome chest bursters, some face huggers, some eggs.  These all would've gone a long way to improving value there.  The Marines/Ripley come decked out with ammo though.  Hicks especially has a lot of gear.

As noted there's some posing limitations, but not much.  These are essentially super poseable figures with lots of well hidden joints.  They pop apart easily sometimes (Ripley especially) but the end figure is really something special and they're great for adult collectors.  Not so much a kid though.

All I can say now is that I hope I can maybe nab a Marine or two more, and I'd dig another Aliens set...  I want Vasquez, a Paul Reiser figure...  They could give me Bishop too, he rocks.  It'd be cool to get more of the Aliens characters though for sure.  I don't know where to go from there though.  The Snap Kit design would do well with other film lines like Terminator, Predator (original), Predator 2, etc.  I figure if they did AvP, they may go with one of those...  And I'm in line to buy.  These things rock.

EDIT:

By the way I paid a LOT for these...  They're not cheap.  But a case of 12 worked out (after shipping) to about $12 a figure...  That's not horrid, just not great really...  I'd like more Marines but not at the prices I see singles going for, not by a long shot.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 17, 2007, 03:29 AM
Does anyone happen to have any of the Aliens or Predators from Takara's MicroMan line?  I can't seem to find these for my life, and I'd like at least an alien...  mostly for his accessories, as I cannot find a facehugger or chest burster in the 4" scale...

Anyone got these?
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on May 9, 2007, 07:05 PM
BBTS have the Aliens & USCM (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HOT10013&mode=retail) snap kits for $139.99 instock.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on May 9, 2007, 11:20 PM
I saw that today.  If I wasn't saving for CIV I might be tempted by that set.

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Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Matt on May 10, 2007, 12:33 AM
. . .a Paul Reiser figure...

It's "Burke," goddamnit (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=6280.msg229681#msg229681), and I can't start work on my "My Two Dads" customs until he's released.   >:(
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 10, 2007, 12:55 AM
What would the other dad's head be?  You gotta finish once you start...  Kyle Katarn EU figure perhaps?
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Matt on May 10, 2007, 01:15 AM
What would the other dad's head be?  You gotta finish once you start...  Kyle Katarn EU figure perhaps?

I'm not gonna worry about that until Owen D. finishes the custom Manhattan loft apartment playset that I've commissioned from him.   >:(
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on June 2, 2007, 01:50 AM
Just looking around HLJ & I came across the The 1/12 Power Loader Limited Edition (http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS09108) piece. Seems this version comes with an exclusive portion of an android body (http://www.hlj.com/hlj_gallery2/v/shs2007/scifi/P5180055.jpg.html) (Bishop), $137.65 US. The normal version (http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS09107) comes with comes with a scale flamethrower and M41 automatic rifle (http://www.hlj.com/hlj_gallery2/v/shs2007/scifi/P5180052.jpg.html) which they also have for $137.65 US.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: evenflow on June 2, 2007, 09:42 AM
For a second i was about to place an order until i saw the 1/12 scale and the price. I wish that was the 1/6 version. I would have loved a severed Bishop. Is this in scale with the snap kits?
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on June 4, 2007, 01:36 AM
Nah, nowhere near it...  They're pretty much perfect 1:18 scale, more or less.  The Wave 3 definitely are, Wave 1 & 2 are a little small but work fine by me in my Cantina.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: JohnH on June 20, 2007, 09:59 AM
Hey folks.  Thought you guys might want to know that we're giving away a Hot Toys 16" AVP Alien Warrior at ToyTraderz.com (http://www.toytraderz.com).  So get yer arses over there.  :)

John
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: ctonra on January 15, 2008, 02:47 PM
this line looks awsume I have to hunt these down
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on April 25, 2008, 04:22 PM
This looks like a good as as any to post this.

I was just checking out the front page of Toytraderz (http://www.toytraderz.com/) & saw this VCD Alien. Pretty ******* awesome. I may break down & get him, retails for $69.99.

Alien VCD Vinyl Collectible (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=900011)

(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/900011_press03-001.jpg)

(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/900011_press04-001.jpg)

(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/900011_press05-001.jpg)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: JohnH on April 25, 2008, 06:46 PM
I'm not into the VCD thing at all but I HAVE to get this one.   ;D  Great stuff.

John
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on May 3, 2008, 09:10 PM
John, BBTS has a preorder for the VCD Alien  (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=MED10204&mode=retail)for $64.99. Cheaper by $5.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: JohnH on July 4, 2008, 07:29 PM
Picked up NECA's 7" scale Alien the other day.  Holy crap, this is a cooooooool figure.  :)  It has all the detail I'd expect from NECA, but articulation I never would have imagined (just because NECA's figures are usually so damn static).

I've put up images (http://www.toytraderz.com/toyandfiguredatabase/v/A-B/Alien/Toys+_+Games/NECA/Alien+_7-inch_/) and a review (http://www.toytraderz.com/MReviews/op=show/rid=3.html) if anyone's interested.

John
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: JediJman on July 7, 2008, 09:10 PM
Picked up NECA's 7" scale Alien the other day.  Holy crap, this is a cooooooool figure.  :)  It has all the detail I'd expect from NECA, but articulation I never would have imagined (just because NECA's figures are usually so damn static).

I've put up images (http://www.toytraderz.com/toyandfiguredatabase/v/A-B/Alien/Toys+_+Games/NECA/Alien+_7-inch_/) and a review (http://www.toytraderz.com/MReviews/op=show/rid=3.html) if anyone's interested.

John

Thanks for the pics.  That is a good looking figure, but I don't really like it standing vertical.  Its been a long time since I saw Aliens, but didn't they mostly move on all fours?  Seems a little too "humanoid" for me. 
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: JohnH on July 8, 2008, 06:21 PM
This is the creature from Alien, not Aliens.  In Aliens they were more animal-like in the way they moved (sometimes on all fours, but much of the time not), but in Alien it was upright a good portion of the time you saw it and intended to be more of a humanoid than an animal.

John
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: JediJman on July 8, 2008, 10:52 PM
This is the creature from Alien, not Aliens.  In Aliens they were more animal-like in the way they moved (sometimes on all fours, but much of the time not), but in Alien it was upright a good portion of the time you saw it and intended to be more of a humanoid than an animal.

John

Maybe, but I don't recall seeing it upright like this at all even in Alien.  It was mostly shadowed throughout the movie, without seeing a full picture of it.  They're supposed to be the same aliens (right?), so I would chalk up any humanoid visuals in Alien to lower production budget versus canon on how these things would really look.

Anyway, I didn't want to bag on a cool toy - just not really a fan of the pose, but it is very detailed and cool looking outside of that!
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on July 8, 2008, 11:18 PM
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They're supposed to be the same aliens (right?)

Actually I thought they weren't supposed to be exactly the same "species"...  Just variations of them.  I could be wrong though, as I'm no Alien(s) expert.  I do know though that the Hot Toys SNap Kit figures were pretty careful to vary the alien figures they've made to reflect the movie they're from...  Aliens aliens are more a guy in a suit compared to AvP aliens as having canine-like legs.

They never did a snap kit for the original movie to compare though. :( 

The Aliens ones come in a wide variety of colors too, for no real reason...  I haven't been able to figure that out either.

I wish Hot Toys would put out another set of Snap Kits...  If anyone ever gets a case of the "Aliens" figures, I'd love to pick a couple figures up off you to help ease the case's cost, including some of the aliens.  Love them figures.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: ctonra on October 15, 2008, 12:17 PM
Playmates Toys announced at the Fall Toy Preview in Dallas that they will be producing toys based on the fourth installment in the TERMINATOR franchise. TERMINATOR SALVATION, debuting May 22, 2009, from Warner Bros. Pictures and Sony Pictures, will receive "an edgy line of collectible action toys targeting kids and collectors."

The initial film window launch will include a full assortment of fully-articulated action figures (multiple scales) featuring new, never-seen-before Terminators; battle-ready replica vehicles; and signature role play items: the Terminator T-600 Voice ‘n’ Vision Skull with authentic red light-up eyes, voice changer/sound effects and the Terminator Deluxe T-600 Fist that vibrates, fires and emits sounds.

In the Fall, Playmates will introduce the Skynet playset; assortments of six new figures in basic (3¾”) and deluxe scales (6”); several new signature vehicles including remote control and skin peeling Terminators in super size (10”); and much more. Playmates plans on establishing the TERMINATOR SALVATION toy license as "a solid action toy segment for the next several years."


Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on October 15, 2008, 01:52 PM
I'd love to see some photos of the 3.75" line, vehicles, and playsets.  Definite SW customizing possibilities.  I have no clue what the movie's about but if it's all future wars type stuff, it may be very cool to collect in general.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: JohnH on October 15, 2008, 02:23 PM
Playmates doesn't have any photos available of any of the new stuff yet (according to the person I talked to), but with any luck we'll see something at Toy Fair.  Of course I said that last year about the Star Trek movie line (they announced it right before Toy Fair) and they didn't have anything.  :| 

My hopes are that the 6" figures are in the realm of Marvel Legends, DCU, Batman Movie Masters, etc as far as articulation and detail goes.

John
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on October 15, 2008, 02:35 PM
Sweet, can't wait to see what this stuff will look like.  8)  ;D

I have no clue what the movie's about but if it's all future wars type stuff, it may be very cool to collect in general.

Yepper, the future is is.  Terminator Salvation (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/)  Check out the Terminator Salvation Teaser Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYc3vOmof_8) Jesse.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on October 15, 2008, 02:49 PM
3.75" figures...YAY!  I'll be down for some Terminator models in that scale.

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Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on October 17, 2008, 02:11 AM
Thanks Dale, and yes if it's 3.75" I'll probably get suckered in.  ::)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on January 6, 2009, 08:52 AM
Some pics are up on the figs from Playmates Terminator Salvation line.

I'm only posting a link here as it may contain potential spoilers so enter at your own risk.

Pics will be posted after the movie is released as not to spoil readers that do not want to see them.

Terminator Salvation Action Figures (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/01/03/lol-terminator-salvation-action-figures/#more-18341)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: knashdx on January 6, 2009, 09:48 AM
In my opinion these figures suck. They look like the crappy versions of the Borg that Playmates did back for Star Trek.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on January 6, 2009, 09:57 AM
Eh.  The endoskeleton of the Terminators don't look completely terrible.  I still may snag one or two of them for some possible uses.  The rest?  Blah.

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Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: ctonra on January 6, 2009, 01:03 PM
What a let down,  I was so looking foward to this line and they look like something like the old ghostbusters line form the 80's and 90's.   the 6" line looks the best out of them all.
I guess I will be passing hopefully the new trek line is better then this
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2009, 02:51 PM
Wow I think that seems a little harsh...  The sculpts actually aren't that bad.  The Endo Skeletons all loook nice to me, and the articulation looks to be pretty exact to Hasbro's on SW figures currently.  They're not 100% crisp like SW figures look.  That sharpness isn't there, but I wouldn't equate them to anything of the 80's or even the 90's for sure.  They're pretty decent looking to me.

I'm disappointed at the lack of humans though... 
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on January 6, 2009, 08:14 PM
I just took some more time to go over the photos and I agree with Jesse, they aren't that bad.  I could see some good custom material in there for people and they look like they might make decent toys and, if so, that's always a major plus in my book.

I'm thinking about previous Playmates toys and I'm drawing a blank on any line from them that's really not been a good "toy."  Usually when you hit that mark you miss on some of the detail you get in lines like Star Wars or the collector oriented lines like Marvel Legends and DCUC and such. 

I'm sure I'll get some terminators but I'll wait to pass judgement when I see more production photos.  Anyone see a release date on these?

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Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2009, 08:40 PM
I think, above the sculpts, the problem is paint...  THe paintjobs on those are all plain looking to me, and I think people will be surprised by the sculpt's detail.  Paint often can hide a lot of quality work...  Case-in-point, look at how Hasbro can repaint any POTF2 figure and it somehow looks significantly better.  I think those figures look better each time I check 'em out honestly.  The paint is very plain on them though.

If they spread out the line with some more human resistance fighters and stuff, cool beans.  I'm down for some of these I think, so long as I am ok with the price.  Some of the prices on stuff these days are out of control, but if these come in like my military figures, I'm game to buy the whole line I think.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Nicklab on January 6, 2009, 09:28 PM
Those look terrible.  Was one of those even supposed to be John Connor?  Because I couldn't tell.  And given the fact that there are already some decent sculpts of Christian Bale out there in the Batman line, these look even more ridiculous.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: JediJman on January 6, 2009, 10:33 PM
Those look terrible.  Was one of those even supposed to be John Connor?  Because I couldn't tell.  And given the fact that there are already some decent sculpts of Christian Bale out there in the Batman line, these look even more ridiculous.

Seriously not interested.  Wow these are bad.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 9, 2009, 11:35 PM
Those my good friends are Playmates' work at it best (in other-words lousy)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 3, 2009, 09:44 PM
Are there any new, better/detailed images of the Terminator: Salvation figures?  I'm sorta anxious for these and how they'll jive with Star Wars for custom fodder, but also just how cool they'll look in general.  Lots of 3.75"-ish stuff this year, and I for one am quite happy at that.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on March 3, 2009, 10:07 PM
Only what I could find thus far.  :-\

Playmates: NEW Terminator: Salvation Toy Images Surface **Updated with MORE Pics!! (http://www.action-figure.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=24377)

TERMINATOR: SALVATION MOVIE Toys  (http://toysrevil.blogspot.com/2009/02/terminator-salvation-toys-from.html)

Terminator Salvation Toys Youtube Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3SB7sLE9c)

Playmates Toys Terminator: Salvation  (http://photos.actionfigs.com/showgallery.php?cat=3918)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on March 3, 2009, 11:10 PM
Thanks Dale.  I see some things I think are different than I'd seen...  Regardless this looks like a cool 3.75"-ish line of figures to me.  I'm digging the idea of Terminators for custom fodder.  I love the T-1 and what it could be turned into...

It'll be a neat little line to collect but it could have a quick death if the film bites.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on April 13, 2009, 09:35 PM
Any of the new TS figs showing up in the stores? I'm seeing the figs & such showing up on the bay (http://toys.shop.ebay.com/items/Toys-Hobbies__terminator-salvation_W0QQLHQ5fPrefLocZ0QQQ5ftrkparmsZ72Q253A1205Q257C66Q253A2Q257C65Q253A12Q257C39Q253A1QQ_catrefZ1QQ_dmdZ1QQ_mPrRngCbxZ1QQ_sacatZ220QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQ_sopZ10QQ_scZ1).
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 13, 2009, 10:50 PM
Yes.  I bought two tonight...  I'v enot opened them as I haven't had time really, but the endoskeletons look nifty to me...  I'm pleased.  Got them and a ST Chekov figure too, so I'll hopefully have a better opinion of thse in a little bit. :)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 14, 2009, 12:35 AM
OK, so I picked up two tonight...

I'd loved to have bought a John Connor, but oddly enough he's nowhere to be foudn in wave 1.  Go figure...

I did get a T-700 and a human resistance guy... 

The resistance guy is pretty sub-par, especially for $7 (TRU's price).  The articulation is ok, but the poor engineering in the sculpt hampers the poseability somewhat. T here's very little to speak of in the way of accessories though, and that's disappointing.  You get a very poorly sculpted gun of some sort, and an even poorer sculpt of a pistol.  There's no working holsters, no removable headgear...  Just not much.

The paint isn't anything to write home about either.  It's simple, not much in the way of washes or efforts to dirty up the character.  The bio on the card is pretty generic and the character has a name (which I cannot recall now) but he's not really listed on the card as anyone of importance.

Between the weapons and such, this figure is fairly lame...  Knowing what I know now, I'll be cautious with future purchases.

The T-700 is better...  But not by a ton.  The articulation is less on the T-700 as he lacks any neck or wrist articulation.  VERY disappointing on a figure that should've been super articulated.  The "angle iron" accessory is fairly cool though and he also comes with a rifle. 

The paintjob and sculpt are a little more interesting on the T-700 though, and despite the articulation issue, I totally can see some T's in my Star Wars fodder bin, or even one just chilling in Jabba's palace or with the droids on the Jawa shelf.  He stands ok enough, but his knees are essentially just hinge joints and the lacking points of articulation at the torso, neck and wrists are all a nuisance for sure.  Again, at $7 you should get more...  I point to the military figures out there and you get a LOT more in those for $5 in every way imagineable.

The Terminators seem to be the winners so far, but really these are in a line I think will be doomed unless they seriously improve soon. 

I will say, I'm hoping for cheap terminators for customs...  I see hope there.  I think had they made a little more effort, this line could've had really big legs that carried it for a couple years or so.  As it stands though, I think it'll be seeing clearance.  At $7 per figure though, it's doomed.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on April 16, 2009, 01:42 PM
Meet The TERMINATOR SALVATION Toys!! (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40754)

Playmates Terminator Savation Site (http://terminator.playmatestoys.com/)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on April 18, 2009, 03:50 PM
Found some of the Terminator figures and toys today at Target.  They didn't have any of the 4" figures stocked yet, just empty pegs.

I liked the Hunter Killer vehicle with the T-700.  Some of the larger sized figures I don't really care for.  Waiting to see the 4" stuff but I'm hoping I like the Terminator figures because I'd like to add one or two.

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Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: JediJman on April 18, 2009, 11:32 PM
I saw the 6" and 4" figs at KMart this evening.  I Was pretty underwhelmed.  Even the Hunter/Killer was kind of lame IMP.  They could have done a lot with the Terminators, but looks to me like they cheaped out.  The 4" ones look like Battle Droid knock-offs - very dissapointing. 
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 19, 2009, 10:15 AM
Saw these next to the Star Trek Toys. Yeah, they certainly aren't as cool. The machines look decent, but the humans look like mediocre Gi-Joe knock-offs.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: David on April 19, 2009, 11:30 AM
Saw these at TRU for the first time yesterday. Nothing overly impressive in the 3.75" line. I did however pick up a 'deluxe' 6" T-R.I.P. and I think it's pretty awesome. I might want a few more of them actually, and maybe some 6" T-700s as well for variety. I'm also really looking forward to the T-1, I didn't see any though. I also saw the vehicles, and the Hunter Killer looks like something I'll definitely want to pick up. Overall, the line's pretty meh but there are a few things that stood out that I want.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on April 22, 2009, 02:38 AM
Target had the 4" figures stocked Tuesday night when I stopped in.  They actually don't look so bad in person.  I didn't care for the couple of online photos I'd seen.

The T-RIP and the T-700 aren't bad but I didn't buy either yet. 

I'm thinking that with this and the Trek movie coming up in a couple of weeks that stores will probably run a sale on these new toys so I'll pick up a couple at that point.

My Wal-Mar hasn't even cleared space for either the Trek or Terminator toys and, honestly, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if my store doesn't even stock these.

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Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jim on April 23, 2009, 03:55 PM
Picked up an Endoskeleton Terminator.  Worst figure ever.  Horrible articulation.  Was hoping these would fit in with other 3-3/4" figs but they dont.  This thing is really undersized plus the arms are longer than the legs and the weapons stink plus dont fit correctly in its hand. 

(http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg348/jman9869/th_43630040.jpg) (http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg348/jman9869/43630040.jpg)

MU Spidey, Terminator, Microman Alien, Evo Sandy

(just fixed your picture for you. - Ryan)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Ryan on April 23, 2009, 05:43 PM
I saw these while on a toy run today. These things looked absolutely HORRID... Luckily that means I'll have no desire to buy these whatsoever if I like the movie.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on April 23, 2009, 06:32 PM
I don't think they're all, all that bad.  Anything but the endoskeletons is meh though.  I thought the Endo's didn't look too bad though.  I'm looking forward to using them in some capacity for customs...  The human characters look like **** though, for sure.

I want a T1 too though.  They look pretty decent.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Matt R. on April 28, 2009, 10:09 PM
I would like to have an awesome John Connor and T-800, but these suck the big one. this line is a big DOA.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Nicklab on May 2, 2009, 05:31 PM
I keep laughing every time I see the John Connor figures at retail.  The star of the new Terminator movies is nowhere near being the star of this Terminator toy line.  I can certainly understand the appeal and the draw of the Terminators.  I don't think anyone is going to argue that.  But what Playmates has done with John Connor is just ridiculous.  Both the 4" and 6" versions of John Connor don't show his face.

I've heard that what may have transpired is that Christian Bale didn't approve of the likenesses for his figures.  On some licenses actors can approve or disapprove of toys made in their likeness.  I've heard that the process can lead to extensive resculpting at an actor's behest.  Given just how "demanding" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrvMTv_r8sA) Christian Bale can be ;) I can see how it may have been difficult for Playmates to please him.  But for them to chince out on the star of the movie?  I'm still baffled.

I had also suspected that there might be other forces at work.  Especially since Mattel is producing decent likenesses of Christian Bale in the Batman toy line.

Oh, and don't even get me started about why the Terminator toy license needs to offer figures IN THREE DIFFERENT SCALES.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Greg on May 3, 2009, 11:51 AM
Thinking about picking up a couple of T-1s just cuz they look cool. Anyone have these yet? IF yes, any reviews/opinions? I feel though, that if I get them, I'll end up getting the HK ship and a small platoon of Terminators... not sure I want to go down that path.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: David on May 3, 2009, 12:06 PM
I can't wait to pick up the T-1 but I haven't had any luck. I don't think it's out yet.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Greg on May 3, 2009, 12:08 PM
I've seen it though. It looks cool, and not too badly priced at $10.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Nicklab on May 3, 2009, 01:12 PM
I can't wait to pick up the T-1 but I haven't had any luck. I don't think it's out yet.

I've seen the T-1.  I think at TRU.

I was also surprised to see that they've got a vehicle line.  Although I've only seen two, one being the A-10 and the other being the SkyNet Hunter ship.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Greg on May 3, 2009, 01:26 PM
How small was the A-10? I read that it's in the same line as the HK, but haven't seen it yet. If looks decent by itself, but the figure makes it look puny. Probably no Rattler, but it could be fun for kids.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: David on May 3, 2009, 01:43 PM
I didn't know the T-1 was out. I've never seen it.

The Hunter Killer looks pretty cool. I dunno about $20 cool, but I might pick it up one day if there's no SW stuff and I want to spend money. :P
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Nicklab on May 3, 2009, 03:06 PM
How small was the A-10? I read that it's in the same line as the HK, but haven't seen it yet. If looks decent by itself, but the figure makes it look puny. Probably no Rattler, but it could be fun for kids.

The A-10 was definitely pretty small.  As I looked at it in the store I was wondering just how tight of a fit it might be to get the figure into that cockpit.  I think that the Rattler is probably closer to scale with the figure line, but then it's not exactly an A-10 with the different engine positions and dorsal turret.

And IIRC, I saw this at a Mom & Pop shop.  Not mass retail.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 4, 2009, 02:15 AM
The A-10 is laughably small...  Someone did some comparisons I think, and they said they thought the Terminator A-10 was 1/35 scale or something?  Very diminutive.

To be fair though, a scale A-10 is a massive plane...  One was mocked up and planned at one time by either Admiral Toys or 21st Cent. Toys (I think 21st) and was displayed, and it's truly huge.  It was so big that they felt it was a real risk to try making it (this was several years ago).  It's really a big, big plane though.  For comparison I think the Rattler's at least half the size or something.

On a more fair scale though, and a good price, Power Team Elite made a fantastic A-10 but it's underscaled by a smaller margin.  Still a noticeable margin, but it's bigger than the Rattler.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: CHEWIE on May 7, 2009, 06:04 PM
The T1 isn't bad at all, I picked up two of them the first day these hit at TRU.  Haven't seen them anywhere else since. 

Why did I buy these?  For SW customs of course.  I could see the bottom part working well for some sort of labor droids.  Or something. 

I also picked up the Hunter Killer, not bad but really small.  Again, I figured somewhere down the road I could use it for something SW related.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on May 17, 2009, 04:14 PM
I finally saw the Salvation fig's at my local Zellers, $9.99. Not really good figures.  ::)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 17, 2009, 10:44 PM
At $5, they're a questionable purchase for the most part.  At $10, you're as looney as that coin of yours. :)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on May 20, 2009, 08:26 PM
Has anyone seen these up for preorder?

Terminator 2 Judgment Day Pescadero T-800 12-Inch Figure (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NC39840)

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/NC39840lg.jpg)

Terminator 2 Judgment Day Series 1 Action Figures Case  (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NC39836A)

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/NC39836Alg.jpg)

Terminator 2 - Series 01 - Set of 3 (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=NEC11139&mode=retail&picture=out)

(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/NEC11139.jpg)

Terminator 2 - Series 02 - Set of 3 (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=NEC11140&mode=retail&picture=out)

(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/NEC11140.jpg)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: DSJ™ on May 20, 2009, 10:21 PM
You have got to be kidding me!

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2009/05/t600kids2.jpg) (http://www.blogcdn.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2009/05/t600kids.jpg)
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Nicklab on May 20, 2009, 10:40 PM
Has anyone seen these up for preorder?

Terminator 2 Judgment Day Pescadero T-800 12-Inch Figure (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NC39840)

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/NC39840lg.jpg)

Terminator 2 Judgment Day Series 1 Action Figures Case  (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NC39836A)

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/NC39836Alg.jpg)

Terminator 2 - Series 01 - Set of 3 (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=NEC11139&mode=retail&picture=out)

(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/NEC11139.jpg)

Terminator 2 - Series 02 - Set of 3 (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=NEC11140&mode=retail&picture=out)

(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/NEC11140.jpg)

I saw these at Toy Fair.  They looked pretty impressive in person.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: David on May 21, 2009, 11:55 AM
WOW. Those look really cool.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: efranks on October 26, 2011, 11:48 PM
Here's a blast from the past.  After a tip from the HissTank forums, I stopped in Dollar Tree tonight and picked up two of the 4" Terminator Salvation endo skeletons.  They had the T-R.I.P. and T-700 along with Marcus and Battle Damage Marcus, all for $1.  So, for $2.16 I picked up both 'bots.  For that price I felt it was worth it but if I'd had to pay $1 more I'd probably have passed.

I figure these would make good background pieces somewhere.

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Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on October 27, 2011, 06:51 PM
Endoskeletons make GREAT Star Wars robot custom fodder, E.  I highly recommend them.  Sometimes a swap with a droid head of a random type, maybe an arm swap or something.  Very little work  needed.  Hell, just laying around in a pile at Watto's looks fine.

I'm gonna hit Dollar Tree and nab what I can now.  All those figures were good custom fodder ultimately.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on January 13, 2013, 05:26 PM
So I decided to look for some snap kit aliens from Hot Toys.  Buying cases back in the day was apparently a very wise investment on my part. ;D Wow!
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Nicklab on April 1, 2013, 11:08 AM
Saw a Kyle Reese from the original Terminator movie at TRU recently.  I think that as a whole, NECA has been doing a great job with their licenses.  I actually know a couple of people over there, and they're cool.  But as for Kyle Reese?  The facial likeness just looks off.  The rest of the figure nailed the griminess of Reese from the movie, since he looked like an 80's vintage homeless guy.  But the face just didn't look enough like Michael Biehn.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 9, 2013, 01:33 AM
I've wanted this for a while but I picked up a MISB Kenner Alien Queen Hive playset...  It's 3.75" scaled, so the Queen's massive and impressive looking.  She'll look sharp with my Hot Toys Xenomorphs and stuff.  I wish I could amass a nice nest of Snapkit eggs but they're pricey, as are the eggs that come with the Takara ones (obviously).  I have a little Predator/Aliens/Star Wars crossover going on and it's awesome. :)

You know the Empire would've totally tried weaponizing Aliens.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 20, 2013, 10:54 PM
Received, and I swear to god the goop is still good I think.  Sloshing the can around, I hear it making a pretty solid sound but not hard...  sounds still rubbery.  I'm surprised.
Title: Re: Terminator (Aliens, Predator, Etc.)... 4" Scale.
Post by: Jesse James on May 29, 2014, 08:26 PM
Meant to post here...

I got a Microman Alien Warrior today in the mail and am glad to have a 2nd...  Good figure, great accessories though.  Wish eggs, face huggers, and chest bursters, were simply standard-issue accessories with all Alien figures from any company haha.