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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => 30th Anniversary Collection => Topic started by: Rune Haako on September 23, 2006, 11:41 AM
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(http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/turbotank/img/movie_bg.jpg)
From, http://www.sandtroopers.com/smf/inde...topic=5183.180
2) What is the top 3 things that Hasbro has wanted to do, but were shot down, whether it be by LFL, costs, time, etc?
Usually cost, time, and item count limitations are the culprits in having to lay aside a good idea. For 2007, there are two concepts we wanted to pursue but couldn't make work at the time: 1) Poster packs, built around the original theatrical posters matched to 3-3/4" figures, was a victim of item count and costing. These were conceived for '07 because of the widespread anticipation of the 30th Anniversary, but because of their size and cost we had to put them aside. We may look at this some time in the future, possibly as an exclusive farther down the road; and 2) A 3-3/4" Turbo Tank. Yes, it will pain some people to hear that we were working on a model that will not make it to market in 2007, but we just couldn't make the timing work. Now that we are looking at the animation, we will re-visit which large-size hero vehicle or playset we do. It may not be the Turbo Tank first...but we love this vehicle and will eventually get to it...patience will be rewarded.
:'(
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Damn! Well, atleast we'll get this. Maybe with a couple of Kashyyyk clones. *wink,wink!* ;)
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That was a great question, and a surprisingly candid answer! Thanks for the image link too, this would be a cool item to mass the troops around!
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The poster packs also sound cool! I would pick those up in a heart beat!
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The poster packs also sound cool! I would pick those up in a heart beat!
They'd likely be repacks.
:P
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For the original ANH poster the Luke & Leia can't be. But yeah you'd probally be right. :P
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I have trouble believing this while we're still getting the same 26 year old AT-AT. I'll believe it when I see it.
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So then can supposedly release a huge ass rolling tank that requires all new molds but can't get around to releasing a Cloud Car, one of the more simpler vehicles and who they have molds for already? (and even if the molds were destroyed, are missing or don't work, it has to be easier to make new ones for the Cloud Car than the Turbo Tank) Sounds like a crock of **** to me.
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Are you guys suggesting that Hasbro would lie to us, the collectors?
Say it ain't so? :P
Hasbro? Full of ****? Impossible!
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You know, I never even knew that thing was the turbo tank. I thought it was called the Juggernaut. I thought the turbo tank was some wierd small tank thing like in Battlefront.
I'd still rather have an AT-TE.
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It's really funny how Hasbro refuses to announce a figure such as "Jedi luke/Death star II outfit" until it is the right time but then tell us the turbo tank being "postponed/what could of been/cancelled for the time being bull****."
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It is a "juggernaught" still... Where Turbo Tank came from I'm not sure, probably just LFL speak for it during ROTS production, but it's originally concept art fot the Imp. AT-AT way back when, that got axed and like a lot of other conceptual designs it got picked up by the initial EU gurus at West End Games who said it was a Republic Era armor design that was used into the Imperial era known as the Juggernaught...
For my tastes as a military fan, I will forever call it the Juggernaught... Turbo Tank sounds like something you revved up along your tile floor as a child and let it roll. Very dumb. :)
That was a nice answer overall though in general... I'm not a fan of Hasbro's efforts with larger vehicles myself, but I'm sure that makes people happy. The answer fleshed out a vehicle people have wanted since ROTS. I personally don't think I'll be wanting one as I'm sure it'll be too small for my tastes, but kudos for the thought put into it and whoever it makes happy.
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At least it sounds like there may be hope for those that want this afterall. If it were not for that darn "timing" we would have it ::)
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There were differences between the two.A juggernaught was rarely used by the clones a turbo tank was more often.
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Juggernaught is a nickname for Turbo Tank. Also clones used AT-ATs if you got confused with the above posts.
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Juggernaught is a nickname for Turbo Tank. Also clones used AT-ATs if you got confused with the above posts.
I'm very aware of clones using AT-AT's.The juggernaught was used by clones rarely, maybe ocasionally.They used the larger Clone Turbo Tank more often.The Juggernaught was used by native creatures like wookiees,although probably not them they were the only ones I could think of. :P
Although they might have used them when roads or forests were compressed.(because they were smaller)
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Hmmm, that's nothing I've ever read I'm afraid. The Juggernaught predates the "Turbo Tank" in EU Lore as an Imperial vehicle... Used during the Clone Wars it notes, it is also used in the days of the Galactic Empire as an infantry support vehicle though its use is waning.
They're not different vehicles, but one in the same... Lucas dubbed them "Turbo Tanks" for Episode 3 when he decided to use the design in the film. It had roots in EU though since the 1980's. It also appeared in comics and such under use by the Empire in the role described for it by West End Games.
Juggernaughts and TUrbo Tanks are the same vehicle though by all LFL accounts I can think of. Even the databank on SW.com I believe.
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I think we might want to move this part of the forum.This is starting to sound like Is there a difference between the CTT and the Juggernaught.
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Juggernaughts and TUrbo Tanks are the same vehicle though by all LFL accounts I can think of. Even the databank on SW.com I believe.
Close .... "As seen in the film, the turbo tank is much larger, better armed, and cosmetically different from the Juggernaut seen in the spin-off materials. To accommodate these differences, the Revenge of the Sith turbo tank is actually an HAVw A6 model, while the other ones previously seen are smaller HAVw A5s".
http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/turbotank/?id=bts
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Yet the scale of it in EU material matches the scale of it in the film... soooo, why are they BSing a difference? That's weird.
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*shrugs* According to the Wookieepedia, the A6 is twice the size -- 50 x 30 meters versus 22 x 15.
I've never been very up to speed on vehicle dimensions myself.....
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The EU material, originally anyway, was based on the original concept art and it's massive AT-AT-ish size... So I dunno why they're claiming a change in size between two different models and all that... To me that's two different vehicles with different roles, etc... It just makes no sense to say "oh yeah there's a little one too".
This is one of those things I'm chalking up to LFL bull**** and I'm ignoring. The joys of EU... ::)
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Well, I just checked the 1996 Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels and it has the 22 x 15 figure. I'd check the ROTS Incredible Cross-Sections but I don't have my copy with me.
The Juggernauts (and Turbo-tanks) were always intended to be roughly equivalent to the AT-AT ... I think confusion came from the attributed size(s) of the AT-AT: Older sources pegged it at 15 meters high, while newer sources, using supposedly more accurate measurements from the film, make it 22.5. So I guess when they "upped" the size of the AT-AT they had to up the Turbo-tank as well .... like I said, I'm not that up to speed on dimensions but I have no reason to distrust the published sources.
The Databank suggests there is also some difference in the guns and stuff, but I'm not technically-minded enough to look into it.
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The EU material, originally anyway, was based on the original concept art and it's massive AT-AT-ish size... So I dunno why they're claiming a change in size between two different models and all that... To me that's two different vehicles with different roles, etc... It just makes no sense to say "oh yeah there's a little one too".
This is one of those things I'm chalking up to LFL bull**** and I'm ignoring. The joys of EU... ::)
You may want to revisit that idea if and when Hasbro releases the Turbojuggertank as a toy. I guarantee it will be small.
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I'd still rather have an AT-TE.
yes, me too.
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You may want to revisit that idea if and when Hasbro releases the Turbojuggertank as a toy. I guarantee it will be small.
yes, me too.