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How did we not start a thread on this earlier !?!
Do we know anything about the plot of this? I haven't read anything, and want to avoid spoilers, so if you do know some details, please flag them with spoilers.
Since I'm in the dark, I thought I would wildly speculate and see what you guys are thinking.
First off, I was thinking a bit about this this other day and the weird title. What is "The Book" referring to?
Does he have a book with a hit list in it, with Bib Fortuna at the top of it? Is he going to go around settling old grudges?
Is "the book" an actual book that contains some kind of special knowledge in it? A treasure map? Sensitive information? Kamino cloning secrets?
Or is "the book" simply meant to be "the story" of Boba Fett?
What do you guys think?
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All I know, and all I want to know, is that the show starts in December.
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I know nothing, either.
Tem Morrisson mentioned in an interview lasty year something about the time between ROTJ and Mandalorian, so my speculation is that this will be a flashback-heavy series dealing with things like his Sarlacc escape and his nomad years on Tatooine, if not even things prior to ESB. Just judging by the fact that Lucasfilm and Marvel have been doing a sort of Shadows of the Empire reboot all year with the Bounty Hunter chase from Cloud City to Jabba's Palace, I doubt those things will be touched upon much in the show (though they could use it to bring a spoilery actor who was written into the story this time around.)
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I know nothing, either.
Tem Morrisson mentioned in an interview lasty year something about the time between ROTJ and Mandalorian, so my speculation is that this will be a flashback-heavy series dealing with things like his Sarlacc escape and his nomad years on Tatooine, if not even things prior to ESB. Just judging by the fact that Lucasfilm and Marvel have been doing a sort of Shadows of the Empire reboot all year with the Bounty Hunter chase from Cloud City to Jabba's Palace, I doubt those things will be touched upon much in the show (though they could use it to bring a spoilery actor who was written into the story this time around.)
If they do flashbacks, I hope they've got a larger story that ties everything together. I'm not sure I want to see all the details of Boba's earlier adventures unless they all tie together in a coherent plot.
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The whole title "The Book of Boba Fett" made me think that the story would largely be about how did Boba Fett eventually wind up on that throne at the end of season 2 of The Mandalorian. I think the big question might be just how far back might things go?
Recently I was thinking this - could this show be a way to bring some of the stories for the canceled Star Wars - 1313 game and the Star Wars Underworld series to light? One thing that Star Wars creators have not been shy about in the post GL era is mining past material for new projects - Ralph McQuarrie concept art being revisited in numerous ways, the concept of the Temple of the Whills in Rogue One, Mimban (location from Splinter of the Mind's Eye), the Bendu, etc. So why not mine something that George Lucas had his hands in like 1313 and Underworld? Some reports indicated that 40+ scripts for Underworld were written before the project was shelved. I think the possibility of this happening could be rather high, as Kathleen Kennedy said in 2015 that material for both the game and the show might be developed further for future projects.
I think that the events between ROTJ and The Mandalorian seem almost obvious for this series. And I recall seeing some passing comments lately that some big OT actors might come into play in future projects. This show seems like it could be one of those, and that sort of thing seems to be on the table after seeing the season 2 finale of The Mandalorian. Lucasfilm seems to be taking the possibility of incorporating legacy characters into new shows very seriously, and I saw another news item that said LFL has hired a person who has made some absolutely amazing deepfake videos of Star Wars material - they did improved versions of Tarkin and Leia in Rogue One, and a better version of Luke in The Mandalorian.
To me so much could be on the table for this show. I don't think we're going to have a clue about where this Boba Fett series goes until we see a trailer.
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I think seeing the escape from the Sarlaac, the loss of his armor and why it took him so long to get it back (we're talking a 6 year gap in time from ROTJ to season 2 of the Mandalorian) should be answered by this series.
Should be a fun ride.....I'm looking forward to it.
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It's a show about Boba's favorite book, "The Lord of the Darksaber"... because, you know, one darksaber to rule them all.
I have no idea what's going to happen, but I'm excited to find out.
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It's a show about Boba's favorite book, "The Lord of the Darksaber"... because, you know, one darksaber to rule them all.
Is it wrong that I'd still watch that?
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Revisiting this thread after taking into account what we learned in the Disney Gallery episode about the season 2 finale of The Mandalorian. It seems like Lucasfilm is very much focused on the possibility of bringing Legacy actors back through the de-aging process as well as with other tech.
I was shocked to learn that all of Luke's dialogue was put together digitally. Mark Hamill has been an incredibly prolific voice actor, and I would have thought that he could have done the speaking part. But what Matthew Wood described about how he built Luke's speaking parts from a library of his older work was surprising. This could be a major development as some of the OT actors are no longer with us, and others are getting to be pretty advanced in age. Just looking through the ages of OT actors with speaking roles - Mark Hamill is 70, Anthony Daniels is 75, Harrison Ford is 79, Billy Dee Williams is 84, and James Earl Jones is 90.
I'm a little surprised by just how closely Disney is guarding "The Book of Boba Fett". I would have expected some kind of teaser by now, but that just hasn't been the case. It seems that they're holding it back for Disney+ Day (https://twitter.com/Disney/status/1441130250050539523?s=20) on November 12th. That's actually the 2nd anniversary of the launch of the platform. And so far it seems like they're doing this streaming thing pretty well!
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I'm ok with them playing it close to the vest with The Book of Boba Fett. I'm curious if they'll de-age Temura Morrison for any flashback scenes. Really hope they show how he escaped the sarlaac....it's a no brainer to show that to the audience.
If they're going to bring in more of the original cast for the era between ROTJ and TFA, De-aging or deep fake technology is a must. I'm still impressed on how they put Tarkin in Rogue One. I know some people complained about the uncanny valley when it came to Tarkin, but I thought it was brilliant! The way they put Luke in Chapter 16 of the Mandalorian was also incredible, especially because they were able to get Mark Hamill involved in such a big way. The technology is amazing!
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Official Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOJ1cw6mohw)
"Every galaxy has an underworld. Experience the new trailer for The Book of Boba Fett. The Original Series starts streaming December 29 on Disney+."
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Looks awesome!
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That looks fantastic. It's great to see so many aliens in this - Klaatooinians, Trandoshans, Aqualish, Twi'leks, Ithorians - and even a B'ommarr monk!!!
Crazy thing though - I was left wondering if the one female Twi'lek is also on the cast of Ted Lasso?
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As expected, looks amazing. Was that Coruscant and the Jedi Temple they showed?
B’Omarr monk FTW!
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Crazy thing though - I was left wondering if the one female Twi'lek is also on the cast of Ted Lasso?
"Jennifer Beals will be portraying a Twi’lek in the Disney+ series The Book of Boba Fett, Deadline has confirmed. Specifics regarding her character are being kept under wraps. Beals made her surprising debut in the series’ trailer debut on Monday." (https://deadline.com/2021/11/the-book-of-boba-fett-jennifer-beals-casting-disney-series-trailer-1234865816/)
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But will she reprise her Flashdance dance as a Twilek dancer?
Seriously though, I didn't realize she acted in anything after Flashdance. Checking out IMDB it looks like she has had a lot of smaller roles that I never noticed.
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Crazy thing though - I was left wondering if the one female Twi'lek is also on the cast of Ted Lasso?
"Jennifer Beals will be portraying a Twi’lek in the Disney+ series The Book of Boba Fett, Deadline has confirmed. Specifics regarding her character are being kept under wraps. Beals made her surprising debut in the series’ trailer debut on Monday." (https://deadline.com/2021/11/the-book-of-boba-fett-jennifer-beals-casting-disney-series-trailer-1234865816/)
Wow. I was really wrong with that guess. But it’s interesting to see another one of the cast revealed. I feel like we know a lot more about the cast of the Andor and Kenobi series than we do about The Book of Boba Fett.
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I feel like I heard Din Djarin's voice in the trailer. I feel like he will be in this to some degree, even just an episode or two. I can't wait for more SW goodness. It really feels like "The Mandalorian" kicked of a new Golden Age for Star Wars.
I can't wait to finally see the Boba Fett show we have been waiting on for at least 20 years.
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I feel like I heard Din Djarin's voice in the trailer. I feel like he will be in this to some degree, even just an episode or two. I can't wait for more SW goodness. It really feels like "The Mandalorian" kicked of a new Golden Age for Star Wars.
I can't wait to finally see the Boba Fett show we have been waiting on for at least 20 years.
IT did sound like Pedro Pascal's voice as the translator in the Ithorian (which I'm hoping is Dok Ondar). I heard a rumor a while ago that Mando is supposed to show up in Book of Boba Fet, but I am avoiding spoilers as best I can so I'm not 100% sure.
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New Trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi9GRafMz2E)
This thing just keeps getting better with each look!
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Two weeks away!
Do we know if this is going to have a Wednesday release each week or if it'll move to Friday eventually?
Weekly releases of Hawkeye are happening on Wednesday, so maybe that's the norm now.
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I think all Disney+ releases are on Wednesdays now. Loki did really good on that date so they moved everything.
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I think all Disney+ releases are on Wednesdays now.
All the Marvel stuff has been on Wednesdays, but lots of other D+ things are still Friday releases.
Here's an interesting interview with Robert Rodriguez (showrunner for TBOBF) (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/robert-rodriguez-interview-book-of-boba-fett-star-wars-1235062364/) talking about how secretive they have had to be on the show. I like this part:
The producers have only revealed footage from the seven-episode season’s opening minutes. “We can’t use the second half of the first episode because it gives so much away,” Rodriguez says.
This show sounds like so much fun and I'm really, really glad that LFL seems to just be letting Filoni, Favreau, et al just do their thing and not **** it up with all the "creative differences" we keep seeing in all the Disney movie projects.
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The producers have only revealed footage from the seven-episode season’s opening minutes. “We can’t use the second half of the first episode because it gives so much away,” Rodriguez says.
The first episode must move fast, as it seems like what they've shown so far seems to be different scenes / different worlds. I like it!!
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I hope the latter episodes involve some of the other ESB bounty hunters. How cool would it be to see Dengar or Bossk back in live action? Filoni has used them in CW, so I'd guess there would be a pretty good chance of that.
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I hope the latter episodes involve some of the other ESB bounty hunters. How cool would it be to see Dengar or Bossk back in live action? Filoni has used them in CW, so I'd guess there would be a pretty good chance of that.
I'd definitely be down with that! Especially 4-LOM and Zuckuss. And if Dengar shows up, I hope they retcon that Rothgar Deng insinuation.
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If Dengar does show up in this show, I hope he's like the Robt Chicken portrayal. Everything toilet themed! ;D
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I need Bossk. You need Bossk. The ladies… they need and desire Bossk.
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Just watched this... There were things I liked, things that I didn't, but I love the OT and PT influences in the show.
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Where to even begin with my reactions to the series premiere? Saving it for later after people have had a chance to view the episode.
But all in all I think it was a good start.
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Without going into it too much, I liked it. Although the whole everything in the previews was in the first half of the first episode was a lie.
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It was… an episode of a TV show, that’s for sure.
At least the leaked spoilers I read didn’t come to fruition, at least not yet.
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That was a little weird. Not what I expected and I’m not sure I liked it.
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That was a little weird. Not what I expected and I’m not sure I liked it.
I'm with Dave. I'm not sure how I feel about that episode.
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I'll just say that there was way too much Tusken backstory for my liking. Maybe it'll matter later, but that was a fairly short episode and well over half was Tusken flashbacks.
I'm much more interested in what is happening today with his mob leadership.
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That's my big question. Will every episode be some flashback some current or was that just for episode 1?
Again I agree. That was too much flashback Tusken stuff for a 38 minute episode of a seven episode show
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That's my big question. Will every episode be some flashback some current or was that just for episode 1?
I'm going to put my font low since I'm sure not everyone has seen it and wants to discuss it.
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I'm going to guess every episode is going to feature the flashbacks (whether there's a theme to the dreams in regard to the plot in the episode?) since Boba said the dreams have returned. Plus it answers how he got from the Sarlacc to meeting Din Djarin.
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I enjoyed the flashbacks. And I'll explain why.
In chronological order (not counting the PT or Clone Wars), the last time we saw Boba Fett was at the Battle of Carkoon in 1983. And then he turned up on The Mandalorian in something looking like the garb of the Tusken Raiders, along with a gaffi stick. I want to know how we got from the one point in ROTJ to the guy we saw on The Mandalorian. There's a big story there.
The fight scene where he escaped from the camp was telling. He had the kid's stick and thought that he could hold his own. But he got easily defeated by a female Tusken Raider. Contrast that with Boba Fett fighting the Imperials using the gaffi stick on Tython, and he beat the living hell out of them! The fact that we Robert Rodriguez and Jon Favreau can tell a story through fight scenes with zero dialogue is a testament to their talents.
The final scene of the episode? That was actually really cool, and a complete love-letter to Ray Harryhausen.
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In chronological order (not counting the PT or Clone Wars), the last time we saw Boba Fett was at the Battle of Carkoon in 1983. And then he turned up on The Mandalorian in something looking like the garb of the Tusken Raiders, along with a gaffi stick. I want to know how we got from the one point in ROTJ to the guy we saw on The Mandalorian. There's a big story there.
I'm not sure I feel I need to know all the details of how he got to be a good hand to hand fighter and everything that went in to the five years between being swallowed by the Sarlacc and showing up in The Mandalorian. Sure there is a story there, but I'm willing to leave many of the details out to move the rest of the current story along.
To me its the difference between the OT and PT. In the OT we skipped over large parts of the backstory, how midichlorians worked, etc. and it was totally awesome. Then we got three episodes of PT and lots of Clone Wars episodes that filled in the details of midichlorians and that Anakin wasn't really a pilot on a spice freighter. None of that made the OT any better.
With The Mandalorian we know very little about Din Djarin's orphaned upbringing or much of anything about Grogu, but we know just barely enough to understand what makes them tick and make the current story relevant.
At times I feel like some Star Wars stories get way too far in the weeds explaining everything when they just need to tell a great story in the current time frame.
TBOBF is Star Wars and is still fun, but I'm hoping they focus a lot more on the current story and a lot less on flashbacks of digging for water gourds.
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Fair observations, definitely. Minutiae can bog down the flow.
I'm also curious about this - why would someone who had been seemingly content to be a hired gun all of his adult life want to change his destiny? What made him want to take control of a criminal empire?
He had also previously seemed cold blooded and ruthless. But in The Mandalorian he was somewhat more complex and honorable. That shift seems worth exploring, too.
And the fact that these things seem to be potentially at odds with one another? It could give the character a lot more complexity than we’ve seen from him before.
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I'm also curious about this - why would someone who had been seemingly content to be a hired gun all of his adult life want to change his destiny? What made him want to take control of a criminal empire?
He had also previously seemed cold blooded and ruthless. But in The Mandalorian he was somewhat more complex and honorable. That shift seems worth exploring, too.
And the fact that these things seem to be potentially at odds with one another? It could give the character a lot more complexity than we’ve seen from him before.
I think the Flashbacks are going to be dual purpose - I think they are going to both fill in the gaps as to what happened to Fett in the time from ROTJ to The Mando AND give us insight into WHY he wants Jabba's empire. I think the stuff with the moisture farmer is our first glimpse into that.
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I liked it. I didn't love it, but I liked it. I don't mind the flashbacks to the Tuskens, though I'd personally rather see it as a whole or in a few chunks versus constant back and forth. I liked seeing how he escaped (though curious why there was a Stormtrooper rotting in there). I liked seeing Fett in the palace, some of the older SW imagery, comparisons to Jabba, etc. I am on the fence about two things though:
#1 - in the OT Fett is known as one of the best bounty hunters, but so far he seems a bit inept. He can't fight off a few Tuskens (I know he was weak from the pit) and he needs a few Gammy's to save him from assassins with shields? He has a flamethrower and a jetpack and is supposedly a badass fighter. I would have liked to see him kick more ass.
#2 - not sure how I feel about him as a good guy. He was kind of a dick as a kid and doesn't Vader have to reign him in a bit with his "no disintegrations" line? He even seemed more badass in Mandalorian, but this Fett seems pretty weak, unskilled, and a bit too generous with all his pleasantries and saving the Gamorreans.
Pretty early in the series yet, so we'll see where it goes, but I'd like to see him a bit more ruthless/tough in future episodes.
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I tried it. It was okay. It just veers too far from my own personal take on the (admittedly carte-blanche) character for me to have gotten swept away by it.
The costumes and creature make-ups seem to be getting spread a little too thin. 8D8 looked great, but some of the other stuff was off-model to my eye.
And my eye must be adjusted to the Volume and it's tricks now too, because there were a few times out in the high desert that things looked like a stage.
It very much feels like the Mandalorian's first season's middle episodes in its directionlessness, except they at least had self-contained arcs. This had no arc whatsoever.
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The flashbacks were something I was fully expecting after Tem Morrison mentioned the backstory being prominent. I just wish they were doing it a bit more like what was done in "Lost" where the flashbacks tied to the current timeline's story in some way to illuminate it. As someone mentioned, we know he gets in with the Tuskens before he tracks down his armor, none of that has any real stakes. But if he had been hopelessly outnumbered by the shield gang in town, and the Gammies got cut down, then it would have been neat to see a band of Tuskens show up to save his hide, maybe give him some sort of tribute or something after the battle, or him give them a bunch of gourds...then it would have at least tied together thematically.
Beyond that, there didn't seem to be much story present at all. I guess that's the difference between writing a pilot in the hopes of getting interest in a show and writing the first episode in a series that is presumed to be a goldmine.
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And my eye must be adjusted to the Volume and it's tricks now too, because there were a few times out in the high desert that things looked like a stage.
Agreed. There were a couple points during where you could almost see the line between where the stage sand ended and where the projection screen started. Don't know if it was lighting or color matching issues or what but it was much more noticeable to me too during parts of the show.
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I'm also curious about this - why would someone who had been seemingly content to be a hired gun all of his adult life want to change his destiny? What made him want to take control of a criminal empire?
He had also previously seemed cold blooded and ruthless. But in The Mandalorian he was somewhat more complex and honorable. That shift seems worth exploring, too.
And the fact that these things seem to be potentially at odds with one another? It could give the character a lot more complexity than we’ve seen from him before.
I think the Flashbacks are going to be dual purpose - I think they are going to both fill in the gaps as to what happened to Fett in the time from ROTJ to The Mando AND give us insight into WHY he wants Jabba's empire. I think the stuff with the moisture farmer is our first glimpse into that.
If the rumors are true and the Disney+ shows are going to tell a version of the Heir tot the Empire series from Timothy Zahn, they could be setting up Boba Fett to be the Talon Karrde roll.
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If the rumors are true and the Disney+ shows are going to tell a version of the Heir tot the Empire series from Timothy Zahn, they could be setting up Boba Fett to be the Talon Karrde roll.
I’d love to see how Heir to the Empire could jive with the sequel trilogy… have Thrawn take over for Episode 10 instead of after ROTJ?
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I’d love to see how Heir to the Empire could jive with the sequel trilogy… have Thrawn take over for Episode 10 instead of after ROTJ?
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I don't know if you have read the newer, canon, Timothy Zahn Thrawn novels. In these books, he's more of an anti-hero and his primary goal of joining the Empire is to get a strong ally for the Chiss Ascendancy to fight a greater threat in the unknown reasons known as the Grysk. Zahn has done a great job intertwining this with his appearances in Rebels and the latest trilogy, which takes place during the latter days of the Clone Wars is really fleshing this out.
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I read the Thrawn Trilogy, but haven’t read the new Ascendency Trilogy yet. And that stuff to me is quite different from Heir where he’s kind of taking the reigns of the Imperial Navy and trying to re-establish the empire. Certainly they could have him be part of the rise of the First Order if they wanted to… but it seems like anything resembling the old trilogy other than Thrawn’s existence would be long gone by the time they were done.
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And my eye must be adjusted to the Volume and it's tricks now too, because there were a few times out in the high desert that things looked like a stage.
Yeah, there were a few effects items that stood out for me as well that seemed off. One was the hole in the sand that Boba climbed out of. You could see the metallic rim in a few spots. Another was the Rodian, who had a tear in the side of his outfit that exposed his skin, but it looked like the skin was attached to the outfit... it didn't look natural. I believe there was something else, but it's slipped my mind. When it comes to effects, I've always considered LFL as the cutting edge, not cutting corners.
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I finally watched it last night and liked it. I do agree with a good bit of what has been said already.
He should be more bad assed and ruthless for sure. The thing that was most puzzling was not disintegrating the churlish Mayor’s lackey. They should have sent him back in several small boxes.
I didn’t mind all the flashbacks really, but what bother me most was the writing in some places. For a dude that never talked, he talks too much now. The exchange about it being “weird” about accepting tribute from a former employer was an example.
I feel like the thing they really need to explain is how he got from pretty Daniel Logan to horribly scarred up Boba. He practically looked like Deadpool under there! And that would be all pre ROTJ assumably.
Anyway, the thing with Boba for me has always been the allure of mystery. The more they reveal about the character, the less fascinating he becomes. Same thing happened with Maul. But the series has all kinds of potential to be fun and entertaining though.
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I was just assuming all that damage was from stewing in sarlaac stomach acid long enough for Jabba’s sail barge to stop smoldering.
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So about the show… I’m trying not to form an opinion so early. I’m pretty sure it’ll find its footing as the story develops, but it wasn’t an amazing first episode.
Another hard left turn for a beloved character… lots of familiar but oddly altered things… Tusken Raiders in fancy outfits… Gamorrean Guards without their furry outfits… a skinny guy going into the sarlaac and a fat guy coming out of it… that sand monster at the end was an odd design to me… too Ray Harryhausen and not Star Wars enough.
Surrounded by guys with shields and electro-staffs while wearing a jet pack? I guess flying right over them isn’t an option…
I’m also confused timeline wise about his armor… Jawas take it right away, but then he has it back? Did I look away while he got it back? Because this is all presumably earlier than when he gets it back from Mando yeah? Was the timeline jumping back and forth in ways I wasn’t picking up on? He has that Bacta Pod and stuff ready to go pretty quickly for a guy who was just meeting people for the first time as crime boss…
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Another hard left turn for a beloved character… lots of familiar but oddly altered things… Tusken Raiders in fancy outfits… Gamorrean Guards without their furry outfits… a skinny guy going into the sarlaac and a fat guy coming out of it… that sand monster at the end was an odd design to me… too Ray Harryhausen and not Star Wars enough.
All I could think of with that creature was Boba Fett was fighting the Kraken from Clash of the Titans!
I’m also confused timeline wise about his armor… Jawas take it right away, but then he has it back? Did I look away while he got it back? Because this is all presumably earlier than when he gets it back from Mando yeah? Was the timeline jumping back and forth in ways I wasn’t picking up on? He has that Bacta Pod and stuff ready to go pretty quickly for a guy who was just meeting people for the first time as crime boss…
I think it's a safe bet that the flashbacks we see for the rest of the season is his time with the Tusken Raiders. My guess is that he spends a few years with them and then he goes looking for his armor. Odd that he knew in Mando Season 2 that Cobb Vanth had it, but he didn't try to get it from him. I hope we see a good resolution to that.
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WOW.
I am seriously wondering if this show might be facing similar kinds of challenges to the prequel trilogy. Boba Fett is such a beloved character that I think a lot of people have gone into this series with their own head-canon. Can this show possibly live up to fan expectations?
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WOW.
I am seriously wondering if this show might be facing similar kinds of challenges to the prequel trilogy. Boba Fett is such a beloved character that I think a lot of people have gone into this series with their own head-canon. Can this show possibly live up to fan expectations?
Nailed it. This is one episode of a TVs show. We need to wait to see how this unfolds.
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WOW.
I am seriously wondering if this show might be facing similar kinds of challenges to the prequel trilogy. Boba Fett is such a beloved character that I think a lot of people have gone into this series with their own head-canon. Can this show possibly live up to fan expectations?
Great points Nick, and one' I've been making to other fans. Boba Fett had under 7 minutes of screen time in the OT. He's popular because we were able to project our ideas onto him. I'm sure there will be division in the fandom over this show, some loving it and some hating it, because of our projections onto the character.
I hope we can all set aside our head canon biases and just enjoy the new Star Wars content.
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Patton Oswalt's filibuster that he improved on Parks & Rec (https://youtu.be/5BBhNkywMJY?t=82) in 2013 has been making the rounds in light of the way the series began. And you can't help but think that Jon Favreau wanted to begin the series with a bit of good natured self awareness!
My kid has a delayed opening for school on account of the weather, so we just watched the second episode. Where do you even begin????
Some great nods to the OT, EU and even some ANH deleted scenes. A surprising character from the new run of Star Wars in Marvel Comics turned up. And Jon Favreau continues to delve into the genres that inspired George Lucas as he was conceiving of Star Wars. This episode has so many nods to the Western genre, and it's really well done. Plus there was a scene that was an homage to one particular Ralph McQuarrie concept illustration.
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I have yet to watch the 2nd episode, but when you mentioned the comics, I got to thinking if a Doctor Aphra show would be interesting. I haven't read any of those comics, but it seems she's pretty popular if she and her 2 companions were made in both lines. Just a thought...
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Episode 2.
Loved the current timeline parts, loved the flashback parts. But I guess I am pretty easy to please on these Disney+ shows. :)
Loved the deep cut easter eggs and character cameos. Loved the homage to the old west train robbery movies.
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I do have to admit I am now a little freaked out about the possibility of my son's anole breaking out of the terrarrium and "guiding me". That's gonna traumatize some kids the way the earbugs from ST2:WofKHAN! freaked out so many kids my age. ;)
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A much, MUCH better episode than last week. The "modern" portion was intriguing and left me wanting more, although the mayor's majordomo is still pretty cringeworthy and doesn't "fit" into Star Wars. Boba building his gaffi stick was the coolest part of the flashback to me. Don't want to post too many spoilers so I'll post some more thoughts later.
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Great episode! Loved the little twists and I have a pretty good idea how the big fight at the end is going to go now.
Lot's of cool old western and some very heave Dune vibes going on. Love it!
Great all around and I'm ready to discuss more after everyone's seen it.
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That Tusken Raider with the long strips hanging off his/her head is an early star of the show for me, after last night.
And I want the Twins in action figure form.
I really did love last night's episode. I definitely enjoyed the first episode as well, but I hear some of the criticisms. Some thoughts on Chapter 1 and 2...
That creature was a clear homage to Harryhausen. It wasn't accidental, you can see the obvious nods.
I'm unclear of how long Boba Fett was in the Sarlaac. It could have been a while because the Sail Barge wreckage is pretty settled-looking, and there was a random Stormtrooper in the Pit with him.
I'm curious if Boba Fett is going to go full Muad D'ib with the Tusken Raiders when he has his criminal organization set up. At some point the two timelines need to converge. So right now we're seeing post-Sarlaac, pre-Mandalorian (Tusken Raider time) as well as post-Mandalorian (crime boss)
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I did like the Camie and Fixer cameo, but didn't realize that was Tosche Station. I'll have to go back and look, but I assume that is what Tosche Station looked like in the original ANH cut scenes.
Overall I think this episode was a lot better, but would still prefer a lot less Tusken flashback and a lot more current timeline. I'm hopeful now that Boba has been fully accepted in to the Tusken clan that we can be done with most of the flashbacks.
A couple of things that were fun:
- Ithorian mayor with translator
- Wookiee bodyguard
- Lizard induced vision quest
Figures I really want made from this show so far:
- Wookiee bodyguard
- Dark robed Tuskens (battlepack)
- Jennifer Beals Twilek
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Was that Snoova? It was clearly a bounty hunter.
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Was that Snoova? It was clearly a bounty hunter.
Black Krrsantan
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The western vibes are so strong. And the one that actually comes to mind quite a bit for me as a parallel to Boba Fett's story is "Dances with Wolves". I see the Tusken Raiders as very symbolic of Native American tribes, and Boba Fett is becoming a part of their tribe. When the train came through and the Pykes were shooting the Tuskens and their banthas? That's a total callback to how people would shoot bison from trains in the 19th century.
Going back to the first episode, did anyone else suspect that the homestead that Boba Fett and the chief's son were watching had once been the Lars homestead? Because it sure looked a lot like it to me. And then to have a scene at the Tosche station along with both Cammie and Fixer? Mind blown on the easter eggs!
You have to give it to the production team on some of the trailer fakeouts - like the trailer scene that had the Nikto gang on the speeder bikes. I'm amazed that they went to such lengths to put that shot in the trailer when it was actually Boba Fett with the Tusken Raiders riding out to raid the Pyke train!
Robert Rodriguez seems to enjoy voicing some of the characters. It looks like he voiced the Trandoshan from the first episode, and now the Mayor in the second. As for the Mayor's majordomo? I think he is very deliberately being played as smarmy.
Lastly? Count me as thoroughly shocked about the Hutt twins turning up. And even moreso about them employing Black Krrsantan as an enforcer.
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Yeah, there were a few effects items that stood out for me as well that seemed off. One was the hole in the sand that Boba climbed out of. You could see the metallic rim in a few spots. Another was the Rodian, who had a tear in the side of his outfit that exposed his skin, but it looked like the skin was attached to the outfit... it didn't look natural. I believe there was something else, but it's slipped my mind. When it comes to effects, I've always considered LFL as the cutting edge, not cutting corners.
I rewatched the first episode again with my daughter and was reminded what it was... when the Tuskens were dragging Boba on his back, you could see the wires that went down to the sled that Temuera was on. As I said, I was shocked to see those weren't removed during the S/F and editing process.
Otherwise, I like the 2nd episode nicely. Can't wait to see where this goes, though I fear for Boba's Tusken clan.
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I really enjoyed the second episode. The narrative was a lot stronger in the flashback section.
I have been watching these with my 12 year old and he Is eating it up with a spoon. When the train showed up I had to pause and take advantage of the teachable moment to discuss Smerican History, so I thank Mr. Favreau for that.
All that said, it is still glaring to me that Boba Fett got paid by Jabba and Vader for capturing Han Solo, and it's not like he was carrying the credits on him when he fell in the Sarlaac. He has a ton of money in the bank and a personal Starship parked where he left it, he could leave Tatooine any time he wants, until this show gets around to telling me why that isn't the case. The only clue on that front has been how happy he was to show Mando his chain code ID from the armor's gauntlet, like pulling out his driver's license. But he had to leave Tatooine to do that. Something just doesn't add up yet.
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I really enjoyed this one. I'm actually liking the Tusken backstory more than the current timeline with Fett. Nice to explore their culture more the train battle was awesome. Also really enjoyed seeing the pykes in live action! My only complaint on the show thus far is the way its edited. The "flashbacks" aren't really back and forth - its more like watching two separate stories that have little to do with each other. Instead of the whole "the dreams are back" setup, I'd rather they just started with Fett escaping the pit, joining the Tuskens, etc. and then build that up to the current timeline. We still get the same story - I just feel like I'm watching two different shows the way they're doing this.
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I just read an article that might venture into some spoiler territory, so beware!
There's some reasonably well thought out speculation about the underworld of Tatooine. Boba Fett has seized control of the organization that had been led by Bib Fortuna up until his untimely death. And now the Hutt twins are also in the mix, trying to claim control over that organization.
There's also the matter of the Mayor of Mos Espa, Mok Shaiz. He seems like he might be more of a player than he let on during his brief meeting with Boba Fett - especially after having his guards quickly gun down the surviving Night Wind assassin. He then tried to shift Boba Fett's attention to Madam Garsa. And based on the way she has been played so far, it seems like she might also be a more significant underworld figure than she's letting on. There's also the matter of the Pykes who are running spice across the Dune Sea, as seen in the flashback.
So where might this all be going?
The speculation I read pertains to another criminal syndicate - Crimson Dawn! Evidently Ludwig Goransson worked some of the Crimson Dawn theme music into this week's credits. Historically there had been an alliance between Crimson Dawn and the Pykes - Dryden Vos referenced that in SOLO. There was also a shot in one of the trailers of a young girl on a speeder bike who bears a little bit of a resemblance to Qi'ra when we saw her on Correllia in SOLO.
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I think that is definitely where this is heading.
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I've heard the same rumor Nick and it is plausible.
Just from what I've seen in the show, I think that Bib Fortuna took over Jabba's Empire after what happened at the Sarlaac and his weak leadership caused a fracture in Jabbas' crime syndicate. It allowed players like the Mayor of Mos Espa to gain power as well as others. A lot of the scenes in the remaining episodes for BOBF will be Boba retaking the criminal empire from these other players...with his message of cooperation.
Hell, even if I'm completely wrong, I am enjoying the ride! ;D
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If it goes that direction, it will close an open thread in the SW Universe.
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Welp, this week's episode sucked. Started off decently but just collapsed after a certain point. The common denominator there seems to be Robert Rodriguez, as he didn't direct last week's episode and it was pretty good.
We're at 1 good episode out of 3, and only have what, 4 episodes left? And the plot is all over the place and moving at a snail's pace. That does not bode well! Especially when episode runtimes are 38 minutes, including 2 minute recaps and 6 minutes of credits...
Spoiler specific thoughts and gripes:
Good lord was that swoop gang awful! They came off like some corporate suits read a report indicating that Lucas liked to put 1950s vehicle references in his movies, and decided to do the same. They just went about it in the wrong way. Those hot rod swoop bikes are completely out of place in Star Wars, especially on Tatooine. The outfits were awful too... too much like what normal people would wear in the modern day. Pretty sure I saw Cyborg Eye Guy wearing a blazer/hoodie combo at one point. They're so lame that I'm expecting a Disney+ spinoff show announcement any day now.
The "chase" through Mos Espa was bad too. It felt like they were going about 5mph tops.
Stephen Root as the guy who overcharges for water! And a Danny Trejo Rancor Keeper figure is not something I knew I needed.
BMF Wookiee gets the jump on Boba and... tries to kill him with his bare hands?
If the Pyke Syndicate is so powerful, why do they come to Tatooine on the public transportation that Anakin and Padme used to hide in in AOTC?
Boba Fett isn't respected and is called an old man at one point. Far cry from the guy who stares down Lando while he cringes at his friend screaming during a torture session.
8D8's presentation on the gangs feels like something we should have seen in the first episode.
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Not my favorite episode but it wasn't the worst thing I've seen.
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Not my favorite episode but it wasn't the worst thing I've seen.
That’s where I’m netting out. But the biker gang kids with their robot implants are absurdly dumb…
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Not my favorite episode but it wasn't the worst thing I've seen.
That’s where I’m netting out. But the biker gang kids with their robot implants are absurdly dumb…
Yeah. The hipster cyborg gang on space vespas were underwhelming. I need to be whelmed. The 15 mile an hour chase wasn't helping anything either.
I'm starting to wonder if Favreau was hospitalized during production and Disney just went nuts.
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Some quick notes?
-Cyborgs and people with replacement limbs aren't exactly new to Star Wars - see Anakin / Darth Vader, Grievous, Luke, etc. I seem to recall a cyborg bounty hunter from the comics whose name eludes me. People doing this by choice seems like something that might happen if that technology is available.
-Stephen Root in Star Wars? And as a sleazy water monger? Nice casting!
-And just like that the Hutts are out? But then it seems like the factions at play are becoming much more clear.
-Danny Trejo in Star Wars? And as a *SPOILER*RANCOR KEEPER????*SPOILER*???? Yes please!
-Black Krrsantan didn't waste a lot of time and was thoroughly ferocious. But a little shorter than I was expecting. I looked up the actor and he's 6'7". Joonas Suotomo who now plays Chewbacca is 6'11"
-I was kind of expecting what happened in the Dune Sea. It's a harsh place.
-Still waiting on that meeting between Boba Fett and his vassals - the Trandoshans, Klatooinians and Aqualish. I think that might be coming very soon.
-Agreed on the speed (or lack thereof) of the chase. But I liked the Majordomo's speeder. The bikes? Eh. But they were reminiscent of the Vespas that the Mods rode in the 60's. See the film "Quadrophenia" for great examples of how the Mods would bling out their Vespas and Lambrettas.
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Some quick notes?
-Cyborgs and people with replacement limbs aren't exactly new to Star Wars - see Anakin / Darth Vader, Grievous, Luke, etc. I seem to recall a cyborg bounty hunter from the comics whose name eludes me. People doing this by choice seems like something that might happen if that technology is available.
All true, but the design and execution on theses four was absurdly stupid. I don’t know of another way to describe it… they were like a bad cartoon. Something out of the Disney Channel… stuff that only an 11 year old would look at and think it was amazing.
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My most negative critique of the episode was the slow sped chase through Mos Espa. That should've been shot to look a lot faster.
I wasn't a big fan of the swoop gang's space vespas..but George Lucas was a big fan of classic cars and I can see Favreau and Rodriguez trying to pay homage to that.
Loved the Black Krrsantan/Boba Fett fight...I have a feeling we have not seen the last of him.
The Tusken Flashback was very moving...I have a feeling we are going to see the employment of some violence in the next flashback.
Seeing the Pykes emerge as the main antagonists is an interesting twist. I'm expecting the big banquet scene next week as Fett tries to consolidate the factions behind him and organize them against the Pykes.
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I've seen a good deal of people who have taken issue with the speeder chase. And I have to wonder if the show may have run into some of the limitations of the production techniques that they've been using. Can the Volume (the virtual projected set) deal with or capture a sense of speed for something like a chase scene? Could there be a speed limit where the background images blur too much to capture it well in camera?
Likewise, if there's an actual set, how much of a budget does a show like this have to build a practical set that can be used for a chase scene?
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Yeah, that speeder chase was rather perplexing with the lack of perceived speed. Maybe they were all obeying the posted speed limit in those Mos Espa streets, though I think the majordomo would get a pass from the mayor.
The cyborg teen/20s gang was also rather puzzling. They didn't have jobs or money to pay for water (a necessity) but had the money for implants and fancy speeders. Is that a jab at current society? Also, those speeders looked out of place on Tatooine since they were new. Tatooine is a considered to be a backwater (though without water).
I had a feeling Boba would lose his Tusken family... especially so when Fett had a conference with the local Pykes... but I don't think the Pykes are in control of the situation, even though we are led to believe so. I think there's something bigger going on.
I also felt like Boba was channeling some Daenarys vibes as well. We'll see.
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I winced a lot through this episode.
The biggest thing that took me out of it is the sheer fact that Krrsantan should have completely killed Boba when he pulled him out of that tank. There is no reason at all for them to have any kind of brawl when Boba was unconscious, unarmed, and otherwise unaware that a fight was taking place.
The issue as a whole for this episode was how "soft" everything was. Boba's new thugs are milquetoast. The Gamorreans are ineffectual. Fennic chastises him to eat the feast like Mrs. Claus. "Eat, Boba, Eat!" 8D8's promotion to main exposition dumper has gone from cute to overextended.
Last year we were introduced to rearmored Boba Fett in a brutal takedown of a squad of Stormtroopers. I think back to the brutal beating Mando took in episode 2 at the hands of the Jawas--and how he was equally brutal in disintegrating them. I remember the high-speed speeder chase in Solo where droids were brutally beheaded in the crossfire. But a musclebound Wookiee--you know the species that will dismember you over a move in a game of chess--can't kill an unsuspecting naked guy in a hospital bed?
Even Grogu eating frogman eggs has a sharper edge than anything going on between these "Crime Bosses." I am honestly surprised that the Mos Vespa speeders had enough oomph to shred through the McQuarrie painting in the road.
If the Hutts came to the Palace to warn Boba that he needs to vacate before the Pykes arrive (via the Star Wars equivalent of a Greyhound Bus--that's intimidating!) then why did they also bring a housewarming gift that only makes sense if Boba stays in the Palace? Why did they send Krrsantan to kill Boba if they were no longer interested in the territory?
And why does everyone walk to the Palace gates anyway??? I know the droids did in ROTJ, but they're droids. Why does Boba Fett not take a speeder into town, but instead walks and walks and walks?
Even my son commented on how dumb Boba was this last episode, when the mayor's majordomo ducked out the back door and ran. I know that is a craven bad guy trope, but why did he do it? Why was he so invested in not telling Boba about the Pykes--until he was caught trying to dip out, then it came out quick and easy? Boba wants the kids to pay for the water because stealing it is "illegal." Huh? He is the self described "Crime Boss" who murdered his predecessor in cold blood. But stealing water is illegal, kids.
4 episodes to go. It ain't looking pretty.
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Some quick notes?
-Cyborgs and people with replacement limbs aren't exactly new to Star Wars - see Anakin / Darth Vader, Grievous, Luke, etc. I seem to recall a cyborg bounty hunter from the comics whose name eludes me. People doing this by choice seems like something that might happen if that technology is available.
I doubt anyone has a problem with the cyborg element. Its more that these are lame hipsters shoved into hack sci-fi writing that could have been spewed out of any crappy IP. Its definitely a fail that there isn't a single non-human in the gang and I need toys of none of them.
I was giving the schmaltzy majordomo a pass until all this garbage happened all at once
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There's definitely a "cyber punk" aspect to this bunch. And some of the costumes actually reminded me of something from Buckaroo Banzai. The core of the idea seems plausible. But where I checked out on them was with how shiny and new everything was - that stands out. Especially since one of the core aesthetics of Star Wars revolves around the concept of the "used universe".
From a big picture perspective? Boba Fett is still pretty much on his own. From the beginning of the series it was just him, Fennec Shand, the two Gamorreans and 8-D8. The gangs that are supposed to be allied with him really haven't shown up much beyond the Aqualish and Trandoshan that paid tribute to him in the first episode. He needs to build his organization. These kids are odd, but they spoke back to Boba, and he seemed to respect their willingness to do so. Back during the OT I might have expected him to dispatch them quickly. But the Boba Fett of this series has been through a journey that seems to have changed him on a fundamental level.
Oh... and I don't trust Danny Trejo's character.
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There were several things about the Krrsantan/Fett situation that didn't make sense:
- How did he get in? Perhaps no one has changed the key code to get in since Jabba's death and the Twins just happened to know it?
- If Krrsantan is an assassin, then why howl as if no one would hear a Wookiee?
- How did Krrsantan know where to find Boba in such a large palace? And specifically, in the bacta tank?
- Where were his bodyguards? The Gamorreans were second to show up to the fight after the cyborg group. Perhaps Fennec was right to tell him not to trust them?
- Where was Fennec? She was the last to arrive on scene. I figure if she's so loyal to Fett, then why wasn't she close to his chambers
- When Krrsantan was hanging on to the lip of the trap door, why did everyone just stand around watching until Fennec flung the blade on his hand? One of the cyborg gang had his blaster point-blank on his head.
Why give an assassin a second chance to take control of the situation? - How were the cyborg gang able so adept to fighting a Wookiee assassin? It would have been nice to see Krrsantan stomp a few heads and show how tough he is.
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How were the cyborg gang able so adept to fighting a Wookiee assassin? It would have been nice to see Krrsantan stomp a few heads and show how tough he is.
See, those are the types of stakes that have been missing from this show. The only real consequences to any of this have happened in flashbacks, but by definition Boba Fett isn't in danger in a flashback.
And he should be dead in the present after that encounter with a Wookiee Gladiator that was sent to kill him.
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That epic speeder chase seems so familiar.
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Agreed on pretty much all the faults with this latest episode. The plot is meandering and so much doesn't make sense in terms of character behavior and motivation. The Hutts make a big scene, send an assassin, then turn tail to run but take time to explain their actions and leave a gift. The cyberpunks have nice clothes, new speeders, and expensive implants, but can't afford to buy water. Fett is all about weapons, armor, and gadgets, but doesn't have a security system for his fortress, any protection for his bacta tank, or a speeder to get into town. He is super excited to ride a Rancor though. And the rancor keeper guy is part of the gift like a slave? And the Pykes are a huge criminal faction but need public transportation and have to pay for protection? The only characters that were actually interesting and seemed true to form were the Tuskens, and they quickly did away with them.
I could honestly overlook a lot of this stuff, but there are two things I'm really struggling with for this show and honestly the direction of the SW franchise.
#1 - Why in the hell is the galaxy's most notorious bounty hunter acting like a sweet grandma running an orphanage? He's soft on the Tuskens, plays nice with the mayor, forgives the assassin, mediates the issue with the water broker and the cyber punks, let's the hutts go, and on and on and on. What are these sad images of him watching his father fly away on Kamino when he should be disintegrating fools left and right? As the Daimyo/mobb boss he has all the ruthlessness of Winnie the Pooh.
#2 - Who the hell at Disney approved all this? The whole show feels like a rough cut draft of some potential plot ideas just kind of slapped together. It feels like a rushed homework essay that maybe had some good ideas, but the writer ran out of time and just had to turn it in before the deadline. I get the Disney influenced skittles colored speeders. I appreciate all the connections back to the OT (Niktos, Tuskens, Trandoshans, Aqualish, Gamorreans, Rancors Klaatuans!) and even the Pykes from the Clone Wars or Black Krrsantan from the comics. The sets and costumes and characters are all there to make this great. But there's no story, no pacing, no rhythm to the show whatsoever. How does someone in charge not see that slow "chase" scene and think, "wow, this looks ridiculous compared to the Endor Speederbike chase...you know, the one using special effects from 40 years ago!" For whatever reason, the whole thing feels rushed to market in comparison to shows like Mandalorian or the Marvel flicks. I'm not even really looking forward to the rest of the series at this point.
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#1 - Why in the hell is the galaxy's most notorious bounty hunter acting like a sweet grandma running an orphanage? He's soft on the Tuskens, plays nice with the mayor, forgives the assassin, mediates the issue with the water broker and the cyber punks, let's the hutts go, and on and on and on. What are these sad images of him watching his father fly away on Kamino when he should be disintegrating fools left and right? As the Daimyo/mobb boss he has all the ruthlessness of Winnie the Pooh.
This is what really doesn't make sense to me... the radical turn of character from the Mandalorian episode "The Tragedy" when he's taking out Stormtroopers and also during post-credit scene when he just straight-up wastes Bib Fortuna without uttering a word to the I want to rule with respect and be kind to others. Perhaps Boba is playing weak in order to draw out the other factions against him? Still, he does have a weakness that he has to rely on the bacta tank to recover from (what I assume) injuries due to his time in the Sarlacc... that really hasn't been explained in the show.
Oh, and I totally missed the Peli Motto cameo, too (in the background where the Stormtrooper helmets are on spikes in case you didn't notice, too).
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It didn't dawn on me until this morning that my issue with the show is that I'm watching "Spy Kids" set in the SW Universe. I had to sit through years of those awful movies when my boys were younger. Once I rehashed the palace fight and chase scenes with the Vespa crew and wondered why I thought they were so bad did I realize it's because of RR's Spy Kids torture I endured all those years ago. Episode 1's sand monster, the kid with the bionic leg, the poorly executed speeder chase, bad effects, poor attempts at humor, it all stems from RR. I half expect both of the main characters from those movies to make cameos in the last few episodes.
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That’s a great summation of all of it Justin. I really want to love this show but I can’t disagree with a single word of what you wrote. I hope they make a hard turn this season, and if not, next.
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I get it that this isn't going to be a Game of Thrones style show with no mercy on Disney+, but Boba is so soft and its hard to understand why he even cares to be a crime boss when it seems he's been kicking ass across the galaxy his whole life.
I just wonder if this is part of a larger story arc (The Mandalorin, Rangers of the New Republic, etc.) where The Mandalorian and others are going to need a powerful, shady character to rely on in their story lines and that is what's driving this plot. In and of itself this story has been pretty dumb so far.
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I just wonder if this is part of a larger story arc (The Mandalorin, Rangers of the New Republic, etc.) where The Mandalorian and others are going to need a powerful, shady character to rely on in their story lines and that is what's driving this plot. In and of itself this story has been pretty dumb so far.
Well, except the last half of Mandalorian Season 2 already established Boba as a potential ally going forward. All this storyline has done for me is make me question Boba's usefulness in the future, because he has proven to be a pretty nonsensical character thus far.
The only way this show redeems itself for me is if Boba has acted like a bumbling idiot on purpose to draw out the Pykes so he can exact his revenge. And even if that is the eventual outcome of what is going on, I still don't trust this show as executed thus far to show the viewer that that has happened. He will simply stop walking around without his helmet while talking to everyone and start coldly killing again with us expected to "get it."
I don't think they could pull off a Verbal Kint/Keyser Soze style realization, even though that would be the only way I could reconcile any of this nonsense as being a piece of consistent storytelling.
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I had a glimmer of hope early on when the water grifter guy mentioned that a gang inn Mos Espa was enhancing themselves. Maybe that would lead to Dengar's upgrades....
nope.
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I've seen a good deal of people who have taken issue with the speeder chase. And I have to wonder if the show may have run into some of the limitations of the production techniques that they've been using. Can the Volume (the virtual projected set) deal with or capture a sense of speed for something like a chase scene? Could there be a speed limit where the background images blur too much to capture it well in camera?
Likewise, if there's an actual set, how much of a budget does a show like this have to build a practical set that can be used for a chase scene?
My Thoughts exactly. I think the designs would have been better received if they were better executed.
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Lots to unpack in today's episode! I'll refrain from commenting for now, but it's GOOD!!!
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Really enjoyed this week's episode.
If you think they changed the name of Slave 1 in this episode, punch yourself in the face.
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I could talk about what went wrong in the storytelling for me this week, but I am kind of over it.
I think this show just is not aimed at me, and I am okay with that.
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I really liked this last episode. It's not perfect, but they did a good job filling in the back story and answered a lot of questions I had on Fennic and Boba's plans/motives. I loved seeing the "Firespray Gunship" back in action and the shot of it bearing down on the speeder bikes was awesome!
On a side note, did anyone else see EV-9D9's arm fall off when he went down? Was that a nod to the Kenner figure always having his arm fall off or am I just reading too much into things? While I don't always love the plot or editing for this show, I do really appreciate the careful mapping to past SW media. The Bantha sounds match the old Galactic Battlegrounds bantha sounds from my gaming days, that EV-9D9 sounded just like the original, the seismic bomb from Slav...er Firespray Gunship, etc.
Hoping we get more episodes like this through the rest of the series. Anyone know how many episodes we're getting?
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No one has renamed Slave 1. If you think that, watch the scene again.
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Hoping we get more episodes like this through the rest of the series. Anyone know how many episodes we're getting?
6 whole episodes. 2 left in the series.
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Hoping we get more episodes like this through the rest of the series. Anyone know how many episodes we're getting?
SW.com: a seven-episode Original Series (https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1465336083948863490). Yesterday was the midway point. 3 left.
I liked yesterday's episode quite a bit. Going to be really interesting to see who they bring in as the hired help... so many potential cameos coming. :P
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Yeah, 7. Not 6. :-[
Edit: I do have a qualm about the use of a seismic charge in such close proximity.... but I need to remember to suspend my disbelief!
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Yeah, 7. Not 6. :-[
Edit: I do have a qualm about the use of a seismic charge in such close proximity.... but I need to remember to suspend my disbelief!
Yeah, I would have thought that would have destroyed the ship. Also, have repulsorlifts always worked in all directions? Maybe they have, but it seemed a little weird for the ship to be hanging upside down from the thrusters.
Fun over all though. I might just pretend episode 3 never happened.
Also Thundercat was the cyber mod doctor. An odd but fun choice.
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I knew the show wouldn't continue to drag, and this episode certainly did not disappoint. I came into the series with very limited expectations but until this episode thought the show did nothing but drag and go on and on. I'm glad it finally picked up and seems to be going somewhere.
I wonder if Disney is going to do with SW what they did with Marvel and ultimately have several of these shows tie together? That would be pretty cool if they did. I can also see how The Mandalorian might tie together with the Fett series.
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Last night's was definitely the best one of the series so far. Hopefully it's an upward arc from here. I have to think a lot of what made it better was that Boba Fett was on a mission and ready to kill some mofo's.
I'm a little worried that Respectful Boba Fett will be back when we get to present day, hopefully the ruthless parts of the character keep popping up.
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I can also see how The Mandalorian might tie together with the Fett series.
There was a hint at the end of the show that this is the case.
It would be interesting to watch the show done from a chronological standpoint/edit to see how it plays out from his escape from the Sarlacc to the "present".
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There was a hint at the end of the show that this is the case.
Yep. That's what got me a little excited. Lot's of Mandos out there to play around with.
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Speculation time...who do you think Boba Fett is going to hire?
I'm going with Mando and Bo Katan, Cad Bane and Bossk. Really hoping Bossk shows up in the CAP-2!
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No one has renamed Slave 1. If you think that, watch the scene again.
Well, they changed the name on last year's Lego set to "Firespray" and the name of his ship in the canonical Marvel comics series is now "Firespray," so it sure feels like someone has renamed Slave I.
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No one has renamed Slave 1. If you think that, watch the scene again.
Well, they changed the name on last year's Lego set to "Firespray" and the name of his ship in the canonical Marvel comics series is now "Firespray," so it sure feels like someone has renamed Slave I.
This all started with a bad press release that referred to the ship by its class instead of the name of Slave 1. Boba Fett did the same thing last night. It would be like Han Solo telling someone he just met that he needed to get his YT-1300 freighter instead of saying the Millenium Falcon.
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This all started with a bad press release that referred to the ship by its class instead of the name of Slave 1. Boba Fett did the same thing last night. It would be like Han Solo telling someone he just met that he needed to get his YT-1300 freighter instead of saying the Millenium Falcon.
I think its more than that. The listing in the comics showed 6 bounty hunters along with their specific ship names, not the type of ship.
Bossk and "Hound's Tooth"
IG-88 and "IG-2000"
Zuckess and "Mist Hunter"
Valance Beilert and "Broken Wing"
Dengar and "Punishing One"
Boba Fett and "Firespray"
Its not really that far fetched that in today's climate, Disney would opt to remove a name with "Slave" in. They changed Slave Leia to "Hutt Slayer" and banned any merchandise of her in that outfit.
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I could talk about what went wrong in the storytelling for me this week, but I am kind of over it.
I think this show just is not aimed at me, and I am okay with that.
I'm with you, and I do think the show is at least somewhat aimed at us. Although my teenage kids like it a lot more than I do.
My biggest gripe is with the storytelling. It seems people sent a bunch of emails that have driven the storylines from week to week. This week it was:
- How did Boba get his starship back?
- How did Fennec Shand survive the gut shot from The Mandalorian?
- How did the Sarlacc die? (I love that we spent five minutes on Boba looking for his armor in the Sarlacc and then we jump ahead in the timeline and he just has it, but we already know how he got it so why even bother???)
This show gets way in to the weeds about details that don't matter to the story. This show is at its best when it moves the story along but doesn't try and explain every last detail about every odd question someone may have. At least when they were showing Boba get his ship back it was kind of a fun set of scenes, even if the droid scene was probably aimed at young kids.
Its surprising to me because I think for the most part The Mandalorian is really well done and there aren't too many story clunkers. I think its mostly the same crew doing BoBF, but it just feels a lot more cumbersome.
The good in this week's episode is when Boba meets with the local syndicates to plan on how to deal with the Pykes and when he sits around the fire talking to Fennec about his change in approach and why he wants to be a crime lord (I still think this could have been better, but at least it develops Boba's character). I'm hopeful we've answered nearly all of the "what about" questions and can now get 100% in to new story telling.
Seeing all the Twileks in the casino and how they pull off Black Krrsantan make me hopeful that we might see a return of the crew of The Ghost at some point, maybe even in their own series. My daughter was asking about Hera, Zeb, Chopper etc. I don't think they fit in to BoBF or The Mandalorian, but it'd be great if they get their own series where they're running missions. If they can do a Cassian Andor series they should find a way to do a Ghost series potentially in this general timeline.
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Its not really that far fetched that in today's climate, Disney would opt to remove a name with "Slave" in. They changed Slave Leia to "Hutt Slayer" and banned any merchandise of her in that outfit.
StarWars.com still calls it Slave I in the Databank entry (https://www.starwars.com/databank/boba-fetts-starship), but you'll notice the name in the link is to boba-fetts-starship.
I don't think they've "officially" officially renamed it yet... but Disney sure doesn't want "Slave" on any products to avoid any visits from the pitchfork mob on social media. Disney/LFL have asked licensees to refer to it as "Boba Fett's Starship" or refer to it as a "Firespray starship" (in the old EU the model/make used to be a Kuat Drive Yards Firespray-31 Gunship) and I think some folks who are not as Star Wars savvy misunderstood "Firespray" as the new name.
My daughter was asking about Hera, Zeb, Chopper etc. I don't think they fit in to BoBF or The Mandalorian, but it'd be great if they get their own series where they're running missions. If they can do a Cassian Andor series they should find a way to do a Ghost series potentially in this general timeline.
If they choose to do that, I am guessing the Ahsoka series would be a great way for that to happen. You could bring in Sabine to the Ahsoka show and then you could spin her off into a Ghost/Rebels TV show, especially if they are still following the "mission to find Ezra" thread.
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...Disney sure doesn't want "Slave" on any products to avoid any visits from the pitchfork mob on social media. Disney/LFL have asked licensees to refer to it as "Boba Fett's Starship" or refer to it as a "Firespray starship" (in the old EU the model/make used to be a Kuat Drive Yards Firespray-31 Gunship)...
Thanks Jeff. I get it, but if no one is using the name anymore then I'm not sure how that really differs from officially changing the name. Its almost worse that they're just trying to secretly avoid using it versus either living with it or making a more official change.
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This all started with a bad press release that referred to the ship by its class instead of the name of Slave 1. Boba Fett did the same thing last night. It would be like Han Solo telling someone he just met that he needed to get his YT-1300 freighter instead of saying the Millenium Falcon.
I think its more than that. The listing in the comics showed 6 bounty hunters along with their specific ship names, not the type of ship.
Bossk and "Hound's Tooth"
IG-88 and "IG-2000"
Zuckess and "Mist Hunter"
Valance Beilert and "Broken Wing"
Dengar and "Punishing One"
Boba Fett and "Firespray"
Its not really that far fetched that in today's climate, Disney would opt to remove a name with "Slave" in. They changed Slave Leia to "Hutt Slayer" and banned any merchandise of her in that outfit.
They haven't changed Slave 1's name. (https://www.starwars.com/databank/boba-fetts-starship)
In my rush to post, I hadn't read Jeff's post. My bad.
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if no one is using the name anymore then I'm not sure how that really differs from officially changing the name. Its almost worse that they're just trying to secretly avoid using it versus either living with it or making a more official change.
Pretty much. They are trying to ride a really fine line where they anger no one, which seems really hard to do these days. They don't want to anger fanboys, so they can't change the name officially but they also can't use it in marketing for fear of angering pitchfork mob on Twitter. There is no winning so they just decided to ignore it.
Maybe the best course of action is for them to blow it up in TBOBF. Then he can get a new ship with a nice non-offensive name. Or maybe he can give it to The Mandalorian, who will then rename it Grogu I :P
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Maybe the best course of action is for them to blow it up in TBOBF. Then he can get a new ship with a nice non-offensive name. Or maybe he can give it to The Mandalorian, who will then rename it Grogu I :P
I was thinking about the same thing. Or maybe with his change in profession from bounty hunter to crime lord he'll feel the need to rename it himself.
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I was thinking about the same thing. Or maybe with his change in profession from bounty hunter to crime lord he'll feel the need to rename it himself.
I'd be okay with him changing it to Tusken I...
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I know they've done a lot of fan service in this show, but I hope we don't see R5-D4 split apart and have a missile inside him.
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I'm just hoping EV-9D9 is okay.
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I know they've done a lot of fan service in this show, but I hope we don't see R5-D4 split apart and have a missile inside him.
LOL! But if it does happen, are you hoping for the straight pin or latch hook version?
(https://www.banthaskull.com/images/POTF2/potf2_r5-d4_10.jpg)
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I'm just hoping EV-9D9 is okay.
She should. I thought she got a new job at the cantina in Mandalorian.
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I know they've done a lot of fan service in this show, but I hope we don't see R5-D4 split apart and have a missile inside him.
I'm sorry, but that would be amazing!
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Well, there is the hokey story that R5-D4 can use the force. Maybe he joins Boba to mess up the pikes.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Skippy_the_Jedi_Droid
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Well, there is the hokey story that R5-D4 can use the force. Maybe he joins Boba to mess up the pikes.
Was it ever confirmed if the R5 unit that Peli Motto had on Mos Eisley in The Mandalorian was the same R5-D4 from ANH/Skippy?
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Well, there is the hokey story that R5-D4 can use the force. Maybe he joins Boba to mess up the pikes.
Was it ever confirmed if the R5 unit that Peli Motto had on Mos Eisley in The Mandalorian was the same R5-D4 from ANH/Skippy?
Pretty sure they confirmed it in one of the behind the scenes episodes. He's still got the scorch marks where his motivator blew and everything.
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Thought the latest episode was just okay, although it was eons better than the first 3 episodes.
The best part was Boba going bezerk on that biker gang when he got Slave I back. THAT'S the Boba I've wanted from this show the whole time! Cold, calculating, and showing no remorse. (And personally, Slave I is so ingrained into my head that I'll keep calling it that... sucks that the majority of the show's criticisms will now be focused on the name change).
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Latest episode was my favorite, but I've been generally pleased with the series so far.
That seismic mine sound effect NEVER gets old.
While they have not officially changed the name of the ship, they are conspicuously NOT calling it Slave-1. They're in a tough spot here. Best solution would be for him to rename it in honor of a fallen comrade or something.
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Boba Fett: "I need your help to get the Slave One from Jabba's Palace"
Fennec Shand: "The what?"
Boba Fett: "Slave One is my Firespray Gunship, it was once my father's and it's been mine for over 20 years."
Fennec Shand: "Good...now I know what to look for."
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I was really pleased to learn that Bryce Dallas Howard directed episode 5 of The Book of Boba Fett. She really stepped up her directing game in the couple of episodes of The Mandalorian that she took on.
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I guess the fact that today's episode was my favorite one yet says a lot about how I feel about the overall plot of TBOBF so far. :P
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Yeah, it definitely hammered home the point that BoBF is filler until Mando Season 3. I'll have a few thoughts once more people see it, but I enjoyed the episode essentially being a love letter to Phantom Menace.
It feels like they blew 99% of the BoBF budget on this episode alone.
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Good episode, even though it didn't really advance the main plot.
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I guess the fact that today's episode was my favorite one yet says a lot about how I feel about the overall plot of TBOBF so far. :P
No ****. That was by far the best episode and it didn't even have Boba Fett in it.
I'm not sure it moved the plot of TBOBF forward in any way, but it sure is setting up The Mandalorian Season 3.
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There were some small movements in the main plot, mainly fleshing out the pykes a little more.
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I'm not sure it moved the plot of TBOBF forward in any way, but it sure is setting up The Mandalorian Season 3.
Not only setting up The Mandalorian Season 3, but maybe other shows as well.... makes me wonder if all those "pre-Empire,Galactic Republic" ship parts ended up on Tatooine thanks to whatever is gonna happen in Kenobi?
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I have to say, that when season 1 of The Mandalorian happened and I learned that Bryce Dallas Howard was directing Chapter 4 of that show I had serious misgivings. Was this nepotism gone awry? Was she up to the task as a director? But she actually rose to the occasion with that episode, and it had some genuine heart. Fast forward to Mando season 2 and her episode, "The Heiress" - this was one of my personal favorites from season 2! She got to introduce Bo-Katan and the Night Owls, along with advancing the story of the Imperial Remnant. And it exposed Din Djarin to just how insular his world had been as one of the Children of the Watch.
This new episode of The Book of Boba Fett did not disappoint! I'm going to refrain from getting into specifics about the show, except for the striking absence of the title character from this episode. When he's featured more in the RECAP segment than the actual episode that's kind of weird. Don't take that as me disliking the episode, because that's absolutely NOT the case. I loved it!
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Some things I really liked about Episode 5:
- I loved the opening battle with Din and his bounty. Boba needs to be more like that. I love the "You've got two options - warm or cold."
- Space station ring world (apparently called Glavis). It reminded me of the space station from that Matt Damon movie Elysium. Very cool.
- The Darksaber. I loved the battles with it and Din's challenge at controlling it. I loved how it seemed so heavy that it drags around and is hard to control. I wonder why Moff Gideon didn't have this problem. I need to go back and find the Rebels episode when Sabine gains control of the Darksaber and learns to control it.
- The Mandalorian covert. Its nice to have The Armorer and her wisdom sort of guiding Din in his journey, although it would have been nice to see Din ask some questions about Bo Katan, helmet removal, etc. Good to see Paz Vizsla survived too.
- Beggar's Canyon
- Kinda funny that Din has to take "the bus" since The Razor Crest was destroyed. Sounds like he still wants one. It'll be interesting to see if he can track one down, gets Slave I, or sticks with his Naboo starfighter, although that doesn't seem too practical for brining back bounties larger than a severed head.
A few things that I didn't like:
- Too many random things get tied in to the story line, and especially Tatooine. I was okay with R5-D4 being on Tatooine with Peli Motto, but why was BD-1 there? I'm not that familiar with the Jedi Fallen Order story, but I didn't think it involved Tatooine.
- Not sure I liked that Peli Motto dated a Jawa. That just seemed weird and a little creepy. Most of the humor in this episode was pretty good, but I didn't care for that bit.
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I’d be happy if I never heard the word Wizard in a Star Wars story ever again.
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This episode has some people wondering if Din Djarin is force sensitive. I'm not convinced either way, but the idea behind the will of the Force and the will of Kyber crystals is something that I find fascinating and want explored in future episodes/shows.
I loved the look of Glavis. Looks like they blew a lot of the effects budget on tis episode. Seeing the atmosphere around the ring was so cool. As a Space guy, I geeked out a bit.
The flying through beggar's canyon was great as well as the pod race nods during the flight. I don't know what's more cringe, Mando saying "Wizard" at the end of the flight or the fact he could've said "Now this is pod racing" at any point during that sequence!
Why is the Rangers of the New Republic shelved when they actually had the Rangers of the New Republic in this episode. I know that Cara Dune was supposed to have a major role in that show, but she's a marshal not a ranger! Get some good writers working on this Disney! The conversation they had with Mando during that scene was great and is hinting at things we're going to see in future shows.
There's so much to unpack in this episode that I need to rewatch it a few more times...loving the ride!
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I think I may have said this back, or perhaps in another group...
I came into this show with no expectations. The plot has moved very slow, but the past two episodes have been really good IMO. I think Star Wars might be going the way of Marvel and having a bunch of little plots and stories develop that will eventually be tied together. I certainly hope that's the case. They definitely have the right guy driving steering the ship..now if we can just get KK to get out of her own way...
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I think Star Wars might be going the way of Marvel and having a bunch of little plots and stories develop that will eventually be tied together. I certainly hope that's the case.
It is definitely the case for the Mando-era series. KK said that Ahsoka, Mando, TBOBF (and the now cancelled Rangers of New Republic) were all going to feed off each other and "culminate in a climactic story event" which sure seems like it'll have something to do with the planet Mandalore.
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One of the things I geeked out about (and just remembered right now) were the K-2 droids marching and firing during the destruction of Mandalore. Very Terminator-esque!
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Echoing what a lot of people have said, I loved the episode last night. There were so many great little parts. I'm really excited to see how they continue to develop all of the Mandalore stuff.
I'm not sure it moved the plot of TBOBF forward in any way, but it sure is setting up The Mandalorian Season 3.
Not only setting up The Mandalorian Season 3, but maybe other shows as well.... makes me wonder if all those "pre-Empire,Galactic Republic" ship parts ended up on Tatooine thanks to whatever is gonna happen in Kenobi?
Great call out Jeff! It definitely will be interesting to see if that is the case. There is what a 10-15 year gap or so between the series?
Why is the Rangers of the New Republic shelved when they actually had the Rangers of the New Republic in this episode. I know that Cara Dune was supposed to have a major role in that show, but she's a marshal not a ranger! Get some good writers working on this Disney! The conversation they had with Mando during that scene was great and is hinting at things we're going to see in future shows.
I was wondering about that a bit myself. Maybe Rangers of the New Republic was also supposed to have some Rogue Squadron tie-ins? Seems like they could still have found a way to do it without Cara Dune otherwise.
One of the things I geeked out about (and just remembered right now) were the K-2 droids marching and firing during the destruction of Mandalore. Very Terminator-esque!
That and the hundreds of TIE Bombers, I think that was one of my favorite bits. I would love if this is all building to some sort of an eventual showdown with Thrawn at Mandalore.
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That was weird.
My son hooted and hollered at the double-punch of Mando appearing and his theme playing. And the beginning was genuinely thrilling and exciting in a way TBOBF has not captured for me.
It's weird that so much Mando lore now resides in the middle of another series. That would be like the episode where Richie Cunningham goes to college and Chachi moves in with Fonzie while Arnold sells the diner to Al all taking place in a January episode of Laverne and Shirley. It's weird Will this all get a 10 minute recap on the real season 3 premiere?
So then the episode got moving,, and never left Mando. I couldn't believe it, as we had like seventeen mini-episodes unfold including a forging montage, a training montage, a flashback, a battle to the death...seriously I would have preferred these bits to be fleshed out over the first four episodes of the series, and have all the Boba Fett "Daimyo" stuff get crammed into episode 5 instead. I guess that would have been Mandalorian season 3, though. Yeah, that's what I want.
Once it got back to Tatooine I got a little bored or maybe just exhausted, and I will point out that TPM is my 3rd favorite saga flick so it's not like I wasn't enjoying the callbacks. Too much Pelli Motto for my taste. (She had more lines, screen time, and plot involvement this episode than any of the side characters introduced in TBOBF so far. Why couldn't we get a chance to get to know the characters of the 2 Gammoreans hanging around with Bo a like this? Some antics, some history, maybe one of them dated a Jawa..?)
Last week I was resigned to disliking this series because of the strange structure and complete failure of good storytelling. This week I loved so much of what was going on...but the underlying problems are still there. The storytelling is being forgotten and in its place are at best fun skits to watch (and at worst seriously cringe-inducing bad TV.)
If this is them trying to do a large overarching storyline, it isn't working. Build a larger narrative to guide the story, but remember these are individual episodes that at their best should have the ability to be watched and enjoyed on their own.
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One of the things I geeked out about (and just remembered right now) were the K-2 droids marching and firing during the destruction of Mandalore. Very Terminator-esque!
Absolutely! I have to suspect that the domed city the TIE Bombers were attacking was Sundari. Those couple of shots of the bombers moving in, and to see them all massed like that and level the city was brutal. And I agree about the imagery, because the mushroom cloud, the probe droids lighting the battlefield and the KX droids mopping up was very much an homage to the Terminator movies.
Bit by bit the pieces have been laid out leading to us seeing this scene. In 'The Prisoner' Burg asked "Why do we need a Mandalorian?" Mayfeld responded "Well apparently, they're the greatest warriors in the galaxy". Burg responded "Well then why are they all dead?" Din Djarin had said that Mandalore was a graveyard, and Boba Fett said that the surface of the planet had been turned to glass. Throughout the series Mandalorians are either scarce or in hiding. The Beskar steel for their armor is scarce and highly coveted. And then there's the stories about Moff Gideon, and him telling of the Night of a thousand tears. It's all making far more sense now, and it's tragic. Probably even moreso after everything we've learned about the Mandalorian society in Clone Wars and Rebels.
I can appreciate the frustration with the series going off on this tangent in week 5. Once we got Mando's music at the end of Chapter 4 I knew that we were in for some follow-up after Grogu had left with Luke. Where does Din Djarin go from there? And it seems that him tracking down that Klatoonian was a side-job on his way to finding the Armorer on Glavis. That, along with him now possessing the Dark Saber led to all of this backstory about what happened to Mandalore and the Mandalorian warriors. And the consequences of Din Djarin removing his helmet are now bearing fruit. He's without a tribe. And Boba Fett is building a tribe.
I think that the groundwork was laid for season 3 of The Mandalorian. Does he find Grogu? Does he give him the Beskar chain mail shirt? And does he go to Mandalore to redeem himself as one of the Children of the Watch? What about him having the Dark Saber, and the possible conflict with Bo-Katan? This was a fantastic episode.... if it was an episode of The Mandalorian! But I agree with one thing - the story of The Book of Boba Fett barely got advanced at all.
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I'm not sure it moved the plot of TBOBF forward in any way, but it sure is setting up The Mandalorian Season 3.
Not only setting up The Mandalorian Season 3, but maybe other shows as well.... makes me wonder if all those "pre-Empire,Galactic Republic" ship parts ended up on Tatooine thanks to whatever is gonna happen in Kenobi?
Ooooo! I like that idea. I thought Tatooine was supposed to be a really remote, untraveled location from the OT. It seems like the hub of the universe between Luke, Kenobi, Boba, Mando, the Pykes, the Hutts, etc. A tie in to Kenobi would be a nice link - that's one of the things I love so much about all the Marvel stuff is the small connections that make it seem cohesive.
I'm also not clear on why Din didn't tell the Armorer or Paz about the other Mandos - they seemed to think they were the only ones left. It felt kind of weird that he rejoined them for a few hours just to leave again. Certain scenes like Mando having to unload all his weapons before boarding seem odd to me - if nothing's going to happen to them, then we didn't really need to belabor that. When I recap my travels, I generally don't spend a lot of time talking about how I made it through airport security with no issues.
I really liked the episode overall despite the lack of Boba. Kind of slow at times, but it gets Mando to Tatooine with a new ship, brings the mechanic (and R5!) back into the story, lets us know the Armorer and Paz are still out there, and had some great scenes with Mando flying the N-1, the Wheel space station, Darksaber battle, Night of a Thousand Tears, etc. Weird to have this in the middle of Boba's show, but I liked it as a stand alone episode. I wonder what other muscle they're going to bring in? I'd love to see some OT bounty hunters join the cast.
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I guess the fact that today's episode was my favorite one yet says a lot about how I feel about the overall plot of TBOBF so far. :P
Today's episode - awesome. The Mandalorian Season 2.5 > TBOBF.
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And that unexpected appearance! Awesome.
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Alright, since this is in the spoilers section, I'm going to post this thought...
Since we saw how Luke is helping Grogu "remember" his past, and we saw the Jedi temple massacre through his eyes, I wonder if he's going to remember Anakin and his betrayal, and become fearful of and/or turn away from Luke as a result?
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And that unexpected appearance! Awesome.
Which one?!?!?
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Alright, since this is in the spoilers section, I'm going to post this thought...
Since we saw how Luke is helping Grogu "remember" his past, and we saw the Jedi temple massacre through his eyes, I wonder if he's going to remember Anakin and his betrayal, and become fearful of and/or turn away from Luke as a result?
I don't think so. As far as Jedi go and being fearful of them, he bonded with Ahsoka and saw Jedi die defending the temple. As for training with the son of man who led the massacre, my initial thoughts are Grogu doesn't know Anakin is Luke's father. More importantly, I believe Grogu felt the good force vibes from Luke. It was his choice not to train with Ahsoka but he freely went with Luke (with a little help from R2).
I understand why it was done, but still can't help but feel Luke was a prick for what he did. :'(
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Star Wars just went into full on Marvel story telling mode. I can't wait to see how this is going to go.
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Still interesting that everyone walks everywhere.
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Amazing episode. I love all the set up for the Season one finale and seeing Marshall
Raylan Givens Cobb Vanth was pretty cool.
Cad. *******. Bane. He looked awesome in live action!
I liked seeing the Luke/Grogu/Ahsoka scenes. I have a feeling we'll be seeing little Grogu wielding that lightsaber wearing his Beskar chain mail!
Prediction for next week: We see Boba Fett and crew defeat the Pykes, but a post credit scene of Mok Shaiz with whoever has been pulling their strings.
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Still interesting that everyone walks everywhere.
I thought the same thing - especially the blue guy walking across the desert. It was bad ass when he walked into town, but a little silly when he left with no ride.
Love all the new/returning characters brought to life in this episode! They've done a really good job tying in characters from all over the SW universe to give it that cohesive feel.
I did not like the choice presented to Grogu at the end though. I understand the symbolism, but why can't he have both things? Obi-Wan wore armor during the Clone Wars. Doesn't Shaak Ti wear Togruta jewelry, cloths, and body paint? I thought it was kind of silly to make him choose in that way.
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Still interesting that everyone walks everywhere.
I thought the same thing - especially the blue guy walking across the desert. It was bad ass when he walked into town, but a little silly when he left with no ride.
Even Cobb Vanth seems to walk back to town from the moisture vaporator farm. No speeder in sight (which I'm sure would have tipped off the Pykes to his arrival)
I did not like the choice presented to Grogu at the end though. I understand the symbolism, but why can't he have both things? Obi-Wan wore armor during the Clone Wars. Doesn't Shaak Ti wear Togruta jewelry, cloths, and body paint? I thought it was kind of silly to make him choose in that way.
Or their own colored Jedi Starfighters, their own specialized clothing (you mentioned Shaak Ti, but what about Luminara, Barriss, Aayla?)? Rules were being broken all the time in regard to the attachment rule.
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I did not like the choice presented to Grogu at the end though. I understand the symbolism, but why can't he have both things? Obi-Wan wore armor during the Clone Wars. Doesn't Shaak Ti wear Togruta jewelry, cloths, and body paint? I thought it was kind of silly to make him choose in that way.
Yoda: "Decide you must how to serve them best. If you leave now, help them you could. But you would destroy all for which they have fought and suffered."
Luke: "They're my friends. I've got to help them."
Also Luke: "Grogu, you have to pick - the Jedi or your friend." So many ESB parallels there in that choice for Grogu.
I loved Filoni tying so much stuff together in this episode. I know it bugs a lot of people because there's "too much Tatooine" or "too much Skywalkers", but I loved it. ANH, ESB, ROTJ, TCW, TM, TPM, so much being brough together - There's even the potential of a Cad Bane/Fennec rematch (they squared off in The Bad Batch).
Can't wait for next week... and then I can't wait for "more Tatooine" and "more Skywalkers" in Kenobi and more TCW/Rebels with Ahsoka series. :)
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There's just SO MUCH to unpack with this episode of "The Book of Boba Fett", but once again... where's Boba Fett? He made it into a couple of minutes of this episode. But I also wonder if that's by design. We saw just SO MUCH of him in those first four episodes, almost always without the helmet on. And I think that dispelled a lot of the mystique of the character from the way we knew him before. Clearly these two episodes were intended to tie up some loose ends from "The Mandalorian", along with laying groundwork for the third season of that series. But I also get the sense that this also could have been a reset to make us wonder that much more about Boba Fett.
I think one of the biggest deals about this episode is how the technology for presenting Luke Skywalker improved. People picked over his appearance in "The Rescue" with a fine-toothed comb. But this was just breathtaking! It seemed so effortless, and it didn't take me out of the viewing experience. I can only imagine the work that went into this, because it seems like a monumental achievement in visual effects.
And then there's Grogu leaping from stone to stone. I didn't feel like I had to suspend my disbelief whatsoever. And it was amazing to see his progress. But it was also a little bittersweet hearing Luke acknowledge that Grogu was probably remembering more than Luke could actually teach him, as was Ahsoka's comment about Anakin.
I did not like the choice presented to Grogu at the end though. I understand the symbolism, but why can't he have both things? Obi-Wan wore armor during the Clone Wars. Doesn't Shaak Ti wear Togruta jewelry, cloths, and body paint? I thought it was kind of silly to make him choose in that way.
Yoda: "Decide you must how to serve them best. If you leave now, help them you could. But you would destroy all for which they have fought and suffered."
Luke: "They're my friends. I've got to help them."
Also Luke: "Grogu, you have to pick - the Jedi or your friend." So many ESB parallels there in that choice for Grogu.
I took this as an emotional inflection point for both the characters and the audience. But it's been laid out that way in terms of the story - Luke can see that Grogu won't fully commit to his training. He was able to see the trauma Grogu experienced during Order 66 - and on that front I wonder if those flashbacks might eventually have him see Anakin! How would Grogu feel about training with the son of a traitor who led an effort to kill him and the Jedi who were protecting him?
Luke also seems to be relying on Yoda's teachings. Has he found the ancient Jedi texts yet? Who knows. But he now knows Ahsoka, who has made it clear that she has concerns over Grogu's attachment to Din Djarin based on her knowledge of what happened to Anakin. Luke fell prey to his attachments and was drawn into Vader's trap. But he also depended on Anakin's attachment to his son as the Emperor was trying to kill him. That helped to turn Anakin back to the light, saving his soul, and Luke's life. The word COMPLICATED doesn't even begin to cover it.
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It's probably Legends material, but I'd swear I read in one of the novels or the comics that Luke did not subscribe to the "No Attachments" teachings after ROTJ. He relies on his attachments to his dad, his sister, his friends, and I'm not sure that actually makes any of the Jedi better. Anyone recall this or am I dreaming? I guess it makes sense if you fast forward to old Luke not staying in touch with Han or Leia, but I figured that was more from blaming himself for what happened to Ben than conforming to the older notions of Jedi attachment.
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The attachment thing certainly can rub both ways. Attachments can be used to manipulate a Jedi to act irrationally. But compassion has been the source of some of the most important moments of the saga - Vader's redemption. Leia reaching out to her son so that Rey might defeat Kylo Ren. And Rey healing him in order to resurrect Ben Solo.
The one bit about the Clone Trooper flashback has me wondering - did Grogu see the Clone Troopers unmasked? And will he come across Boba Fett at some point? That scene in season 2 of The Mandalorian where Bo-Katan called Boba Fett "Clone" has a bit more resonance now.
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It's probably Legends material, but I'd swear I read in one of the novels or the comics that Luke did not subscribe to the "No Attachments" teachings after ROTJ. He relies on his attachments to his dad, his sister, his friends, and I'm not sure that actually makes any of the Jedi better. Anyone recall this or am I dreaming? I guess it makes sense if you fast forward to old Luke not staying in touch with Han or Leia, but I figured that was more from blaming himself for what happened to Ben than conforming to the older notions of Jedi attachment.
It was in the New Jedi Order books if I recall correctly. Luke encountered a force sensitive person who actually allied with the Sith and she was disgusted with Luke and the Jedi were getting married and having children.
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Another great episode, mainly because it had nothing to do with Boba Fett. :P
Deepfake Luke looked so much better than he did in Mandalorian S2 finale. I know Lucasfilm hired that YouTuber who made a much better version, so if this was his work, fantastic job. Those ant droids were cool too! I need to go back and check to see if the temple they were building is similar/different from the one Kylo destroys in TLJ because I'm thinking they could use that as a way to say Grogu survived the First Order. "Kylo only destroyed ONE of Luke's temples, surprise! There actually were Jedi in the Sequels, now start liking the movies!"
A few things I disliked:
- I know Legends Luke did away with the "no attachment" rule (considering he gets a wife and a kid) so it was weird to see him following the same rule that turned Anakin to the Dark Side. I've seen people theorize that the ending is going to be a "fakeout" and Luke is going to train Grogu while allowing him to see Mando every so often.
- I would think that the first meeting between Luke and Ahsoka would be a much bigger deal. Maybe they're saving that for the Ahsoka series?
- Wouldn't Cad Bane be in his 70s at this point in the timeline? Cool seeing him regardless, even if he's just going to be fodder for Boba (assuming they actually let Boba do anything). Makes me wish Disney had let the Clone Wars team finish the series, as I believe there was a Young Boba/Bane storyline that ended with a duel. Would be cool to have that backstory to up the stakes.
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Have any of you guys read anything about how they're doing the voice for Luke?
Is it Mark Hamill recording and then sound engineers making him sound younger? Is it a voice actor who's just really good and doing young Mark Hamill?
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Have any of you guys read anything about how they're doing the voice for Luke?
Is it Mark Hamill recording and then sound engineers making him sound younger? Is it a voice actor who's just really good and doing young Mark Hamill?
Per Esquire:
"So we don't yet know the specifics of Skywalker's digital resurrection in The Book of Boba Fett. All we know is that the episode credits an actor named Scott Lang as Skywalker's stunt double, and Graham Hamilton as the performance artist."
...Ant that my friends is how the Star Wars and Marvel universes will collide.
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Still interesting that everyone walks everywhere.
I thought the same thing - especially the blue guy walking across the desert. It was bad ass when he walked into town, but a little silly when he left with no ride.
Even Cobb Vanth seems to walk back to town from the moisture vaporator farm. No speeder in sight (which I'm sure would have tipped off the Pykes to his arrival)
I did not like the choice presented to Grogu at the end though. I understand the symbolism, but why can't he have both things? Obi-Wan wore armor during the Clone Wars. Doesn't Shaak Ti wear Togruta jewelry, cloths, and body paint? I thought it was kind of silly to make him choose in that way.
Or their own colored Jedi Starfighters, their own specialized clothing (you mentioned Shaak Ti, but what about Luminara, Barriss, Aayla?)? Rules were being broken all the time in regard to the attachment rule.
I'm pretty sure the dark horse comics stated that Ki-adi Mundi's race was very lopsided and had barely enough men to go around. This permitted him to be married and have kids. Maybe some baby mamas... who knows?
I'm a little bored with the attachment thing. I like that Luke brings up Grogu's age in relation to others, but its also kind of dumb that a race that lives that long has to adopt rules from people with the lifespan of a rodent.
The episode was pretty rad in general though. Luke looked so convincing I thought maybe they had brought in Sebastian Stan and done away with the CGI.
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Have any of you guys read anything about how they're doing the voice for Luke?
Is it Mark Hamill recording and then sound engineers making him sound younger? Is it a voice actor who's just really good and doing young Mark Hamill?
Matthew Wood, who has been working on a lot of the sound for Star Wars spoke about it in the Disney Gallery BTS show that discussed Luke’s return in The Mandalorian. They’ve built a library of Mark Hamill’s dialogue from that time period, including his OT performances on set, ADR sessions, the Star Wars radio plays and interviews. They use all of that in conjunction with AI to help construct the vocal performance. No doubt because Mark Hamill’s voice now is quite different. It’s something natural that happens when people get into their late 30’s, and you can observe this with a good number of singers whose vocal range changes over time.
I suspect that Mark Hamill assisted in building the acting performance. And his dialogue on set might have served as a guide for the AI to construct the de-aged voice.
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I was surprised to see Cad Bane get pulled in to this and had assumed we'd see Dengar, Bossk, or others pulled in on Boba's side before we'd see Cad Bane. Either way it was a nice surprise.
Another interesting episode with virtually no Boba Fett. There was maybe a little too much Luke and Grogu, but its hard not to like anything with Luke or Grogu in it.
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Still interesting that everyone walks everywhere.
Okay, I have to retract this. It's obvious that Cad Bane walked into Freedomtown after parking outside of town just like Deputy Scott asked Mando to do.
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Another interesting episode with virtually no Boba Fett. There was maybe a little too much Luke and Grogu, but its hard not to like anything with Luke or Grogu in it.
I could watch ten seasons of deep fake Luke doing Jedi Academy things.
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Another interesting episode with virtually no Boba Fett. There was maybe a little too much Luke and Grogu, but its hard not to like anything with Luke or Grogu in it.
I could watch ten seasons of deep fake Luke doing Jedi Academy things.
Same.
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I love the Jawa’s new hood ornament for their Sandcrawler.
If they ever do a HasLab Sandcrawler I hope it has a Krayt dragon skull on it.
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If they ever do a HasLab Sandcrawler I hope it has a Krayt dragon skull on it.
That would be an awesome stretch goal. I would think this would have to be on the radar for a HasLab since it could be used for ANH, Mando, and TBoBF though I wonder if there would be some restrictions considering Disney Parks offers one, albeit at a much smaller scale.
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Have any of you guys read anything about how they're doing the voice for Luke?
Is it Mark Hamill recording and then sound engineers making him sound younger? Is it a voice actor who's just really good and doing young Mark Hamill?
I read somewhere yesterday that Hamill did nothing for BoB other than lend his likeness. The voice was build by a machine-learning process that they fed the raw dialog of the OT and the radio dramas.
To be honest, as cool as the voice is, it really seems artificial to me.
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[quote author=Qui-Gon Jim link=topic=25301.msg627784#msg627784 date=1644246647
I read somewhere yesterday that Hamill did nothing for BoB other than lend his likeness. The voice was build by a machine-learning process that they fed the raw dialog of the OT and the radio dramas.
To be honest, as cool as the voice is, it really seems artificial to me.
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My wife and I remarked that it was very much like the stylization they did for Data's android voice back in ST:TNG. I was actively listening to see if Luke would use any contractions!
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Have any of you guys read anything about how they're doing the voice for Luke?
Is it Mark Hamill recording and then sound engineers making him sound younger? Is it a voice actor who's just really good and doing young Mark Hamill?
I read somewhere yesterday that Hamill did nothing for BoB other than lend his likeness. The voice was build by a machine-learning process that they fed the raw dialog of the OT and the radio dramas.
To be honest, as cool as the voice is, it really seems artificial to me.
I thought it sounded a bit artificial as well, but I don't know if that was because it was obvious or because I was instantly looking for it. I'm guessing it was a lot more noticeable to SW super fans than the general public or kids. Still amazing that they can even do this.
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Specifics:
https://www.slashfilm.com/758327/why-luke-skywalkers-voice-sounds-so-weird-in-the-book-of-boba-fett/
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Still trying to wrap my head around how tomorrow's episode can be a satisfying conclusion to TBOBF Season 1.
Like, can they have a whole crime war with the Pyke Syndicate in one episode? Can they really do something big enough to chase the Pykes off Tatooine in one episode? Is BF gonna lose or have to surrender to the Pykes just so that him and Fennec are then free to join Din/Grogu for TM Season 3? Is he gonna ride that Rancor?
How do they bring the focus back to Boba Fett being the "hero" of his own show when everyone is just craving more Mando/Grogu/Luke at this point?
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Specifics:
https://www.slashfilm.com/758327/why-luke-skywalkers-voice-sounds-so-weird-in-the-book-of-boba-fett/
That article reads like it was written by someone who was LOOKING to have a problem with the process. This didn't come to mind for me at all when I watched the episode. Frankly, I was stunned by how much more easily I bought into this episode than the scene in Chapter 16 of The Mandalorian.
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Still trying to wrap my head around how tomorrow's episode can be a satisfying conclusion to TBOBF Season 1.
Like, can they have a whole crime war with the Pyke Syndicate in one episode? Can they really do something big enough to chase the Pykes off Tatooine in one episode? Is BF gonna lose or have to surrender to the Pykes just so that him and Fennec are then free to join Din/Grogu for TM Season 3? Is he gonna ride that Rancor?
How do they bring the focus back to Boba Fett being the "hero" of his own show when everyone is just craving more Mando/Grogu/Luke at this point?
Exactly. Unless it's a 2-hour or more finale I can't see it.
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Looking through a big block of SW.com database entry updates from TBOBF and... they named it Tatooine Sand Ape (https://www.starwars.com/databank/tatooine-sand-ape)? Really? ???
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The Kraken was taken by a different intellectual property.
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DAMNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I won't say much about the finale until everyone has had a chance to watch it. Suffice to say that I enjoyed it and is has a satisfying ending....definite possibilities for a season 2.
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That was fun. Lots of possibilities and directions it can go now.
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Agree with what everyone said. Still, it feels the show could have used a couple more episodes to fill out certain aspects of the finale... or even just a few spoken lines could do it at the very least.
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I really enjoyed the finale! Sure there weren't any real jaw dropping surprises like in the Mando season 2 finale, but it was just a fun end to this limited series.
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Fun episode. The whole series seemed choppy to me including the finale, but lots of good action in this one. I don't know why they called it the Book of Boba Fett though - this could easily just have been Mandalorian Season 3.
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Anyone else get very excited to see the knee rockets finally get used?
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Anyone else get very excited to see the knee rockets finally get used?
Boba Fett used the knee rockets on Tython...didn't he?
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Anyone else get very excited to see the knee rockets finally get used?
Boba Fett used the knee rockets on Tython...didn't he?
I don't remember that, but I could watch knee rockets and jetpack scenes all. day. long.
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I mostly enjoyed the episode, and the back half of the series as Mando Season 2.5, but as a series it was kind of a mess. The Boba Fett stuff seemed unnecessary and mostly uninteresting, as did a lot of the Tatooine mob/crime family stuff.
I kind of like the homage to King Kong with The Rancor, but didn’t really like that the Rancor seemed mostly indestructible. Star Wars is not Marvel so things should die when they get shot repeatedly by big cannons.
I also didn’t like that Black Krrstan was immortal too. Chewie was wounded and hurting after one blaster shot but Krrstan can get axed and repeatedly shot and only have a slight limp.
I enjoyed it because it was Star Wars and Mando and Grogu are always fun, although I’m not sure what they might even be setting up with Boba and Fennec running Mos Espa as far as the broader story line goes.
I really, really hope the Kenobi series as a much more coherent story line.
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I also didn’t like that Black Krrstan was immortal too. Chewie was wounded and hurting after one blaster shot but Krrstan can get axed and repeatedly shot and only have a slight limp.
That was my thoughts on Krrsantan, too. The guy's getting hammered by lasers and stabbed repeatedly (and weren't the Trandoshians biting him when they brought him down? No idea since we don't see how he escapes) and looks like he's near death when he is saved. And then when they retreat from the Scorpenek droids he was at a full sprint. Perhaps his fight or flight instinct took over up at the sight of the droids and they just seemed like a flesh wound at the time.
Then Fett just ups and leaves everyone at Mos Espa to get the Rancor from the palace and then come back. That had to take a while, I'm sure they make it seems like a scene or so. And he's able to ride it without much issue with no apparent (or mentioned) training besides saying to the keeper, "I'm going to ride that Rancor." And the Rancor's weakness is fire and just ups and leaves his master?
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Yeah, the fight scenes weren't all that well thought through. They wanted us to think those characters were goners, then be surprised when they were just wounded. The Trandoshan thing bothered me the most - those guys supposedly hunt and enslave wookies, but a mob of them couldn't take one wookie down? I can roll with the Boba riding a Rancor thing - doesn't he ride some big sea creature in the Droids series? But if you're going that route, show him riding a big creature on Kamino instead of softly gazing out the window. The visuals in this show were amazing, but the story flowed like a cheap cartoon.
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Yeah, the fight scenes weren't all that well thought through. They wanted us to think those characters were goners, then be surprised when they were just wounded. The Trandoshan thing bothered me the most - those guys supposedly hunt and enslave wookies, but a mob of them couldn't take one wookie down? I can roll with the Boba riding a Rancor thing - doesn't he ride some big sea creature in the Droids series? But if you're going that route, show him riding a big creature on Kamino instead of softly gazing out the window. The visuals in this show were amazing, but the story flowed like a cheap cartoon.
Most of the Trandoshians we saw on Tatooine didn't look as imposing as Bossk. Not sure what it was... so maybe these Trandoshans were soft.
No idea about the Droids series and if he rode anything big there... that's why I said he could have mentioned it to Mando in passing. "Since you've been taking up an episode and a half in my series, I've been learning to ride a rancor."
But even still, he took off to the palace to grab the Rancor which meant their team was down another member with Fennic off to Mos Eisley. I also felt that there was an insider in the group since the Pyke leader seemed to know about things happening in Fett's sphere about the same time he did.
I agree it was a good show. Could have definitely been better though. Just different than what I expected.
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I've never seen an episode of Droids, but this is what I was referring to. I thought I caught some comment in TBOBF that eluded to him having ridden large beasts before and my mind immediately went to this.
(https://images.thedirect.com/media/photos/boba-creature.jpg)
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When he was looking over the Rancor he told Danny Trejo’s character that he’s ridden beasts ten times the size of the Rancor. And I thought of this creature, too.
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Evidently "In The Name Of Honor" had higher ratings than the season 2 finale of The Mandalorian (https://deadline.com/2022/02/the-book-of-boba-fett-finale-viewership-audience-1234933527/). Which was kind of surprising considering a lot of the criticism that's been circulating online about this series.
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I finally got around to watching it and liked it fine. Not amazing but enjoyable, which pretty well sums up the series for me. The only bit that seemed hard to swallow was him waiting to abandon the whole Daimyo thing by the end of the episode, which makes the whole thing seem like kind of a pointless lark.
Also, as someone who was never a big fan of the Cad Bane character, I would have thought I would have felt a nice rush to see him get dispatched, but SW has made such a mockery of on screen deaths, i can’t help but feel much more than skeptical.
Ironically i bet they would have no trouble finding a HasLab Rancor now, if it was BOBF accurate and came with a little Danny Trejo. What a missed opportunity!
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I wonder if they knew that the Rancor was going to be in TBOBF, but the timing ended up being all off with their announcement and when the shows aired.
I still wouldn't have gone for it (just too big), but I'm sure it would have pulled in a few more people.
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I would have thought I would have felt a nice rush to see him get dispatched, but SW has made such a mockery of on screen deaths, i can’t help but feel much more than skeptical.
Yeah, I don't think he's dead. As they focused in on him on the ground, there was a light blinking on his chest and a heartbeat sound in the background. If he was going to be dispatched, I would hope that he would get a few more episodes in before that happened.
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Finally got a chance to watch the finale after traveling out of the country for work.
Overall this show was really bad. The story was all over the place, stuff was introduced and then forgotten about... hell, Boba doesn't even appear in two full episodes. Also undoes the emotional finale of Mando Season 2 by bringing us right back to the status quo with The Travelin' Adventures of Din and Grogu. The characters were awful
As for the finale... that was the worst battle I think I've ever seen. Why on earth would they not hold up in Jabba's Palace, a literal armed fortress, instead of the blown up casino? Why don't they have any sort of ion cannons or ion weapons to take down those POTF2 Deluxe Figure Robots' shields? Why are the bad guys only able to hit Black ChrisHanson's bandolier, which only covers 10% of his body, tops? Why is Shand killing off the bad guy leaders (that scene was REALLY dark for Disney too) instead of Boba?
I wanted to like this show, I really did. But they've now ruined the Boba Fett character (had the story and timeline not been so inconsistent, that may not have happened), and actually kind of made me unexcited for Mandalorian Season 3.
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This "story" is fun to read from an inside perspective. The idea that the lead actor in the Book of Boba Fett is announcing "cutbacks" is clear as day to me with how poor that series was.
https://thedirect.com/article/star-wars-disney-plus-cutbacks-actor
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I've been thinking about how a second season might happen, if at all. My own take?
I see the potential for something akin to The Godfather Part III - Boba Fett is Michael, and just when he thought he was out of the Bounty Hunter's guild and working for gangsters, they pull him back in! Perhaps that means something to do with the Hutt twins? Or a possible conflict with some of the bounty hunters we saw in TESB? And a threat to the peace on Tatooine. You certainly have to think that the tag scene at the end of the final episode was teasing the return of Cobb Vanth in some capacity.
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I've been checking out some fan made YouTube videos about the new Disney+ era of shows. And this one keeps referencing the planet where Luke set up his Jedi academy as Ossus. While there's nothing about Ossus on the official site, Wookieepedia seems to go along with that notion. The planet has some old school EU backstory. And I wonder what fans of that old EU material might think about this kind of connective tissue between EU stories that might have involved Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma, up to the Disney+ shows and the Sequel trilogy?
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If that show is going to be any good, two things need to happen IMO.
1) Don’t let Robert Rodriguez anywhere near it.
2) Get back to Boba Fett’s roots. Go be a badass bounty hunter instead of a local crime lord who “rules with respect.”
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
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I've been checking out some fan made YouTube videos about the new Disney+ era of shows. And this one keeps referencing the planet where Luke set up his Jedi academy as Ossus. While there's nothing about Ossus on the official site, Wookieepedia seems to go along with that notion.
It was in the novel Shadow of the Sith where they named the planet as Ossus I think. So not movie canon but book canon (subject to change if TV/movies want to go a different route).
If that show is going to be any good, two things need to happen IMO.
How they made this show and had no cameo from ESB hunters like Dengar, Bossk, 4-LOM, Zuckuss, etc was a crime.
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I think a season two of Book of Boba Fett could be awesome. My thoughts on what it could cover:
1 - Have a bigger force behind the Pykes running spice through Tatooine. Perhaps Crimson Dawn? Imperial Remnant sowing chaos to destabalize the New Republic?
2 - Have more or a payoff with Boba Fett and the Tusken Raiders. Adding on to idea number one -- Boba Fett has to build an army to confront them and we could have a payoff when an army of Tusken Raiders join the fight to save them.
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If that show is going to be any good, two things need to happen IMO.
1) Don’t let Robert Rodriguez anywhere near it.
2) Get back to Boba Fett’s roots. Go be a badass bounty hunter instead of a local crime lord who “rules with respect.”
If they can't follow the above guidelines they should just keep any Season 2 concepts buried in a Sarlacc Pit.
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I think a season two of Book of Boba Fett could be awesome. My thoughts on what it could cover:
1 - Have a bigger force behind the Pykes running spice through Tatooine. Perhaps Crimson Dawn? Imperial Remnant sowing chaos to destabalize the New Republic?
2 - Have more or a payoff with Boba Fett and the Tusken Raiders. Adding on to idea number one -- Boba Fett has to build an army to confront them and we could have a payoff when an army of Tusken Raiders join the fight to save them.
I’m personally over everything happening on Tatooine. I’d like to see Fett get out of the desert and get into some important stuff.