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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Variants.
« on: February 7, 2003, 01:55 PM »
Well then I have an error variant on my hands!!! NOT!

I'd never create a variant just to own one. The thing of it is that you are the lucky one that finds it first. Anyway, thanks for the tip, but no thanks. My interest and intent was purely to know what the error text said and nothing more...

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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Variants.
« on: February 7, 2003, 02:09 AM »
To tell you the truth, I was so bent on finding out the error text, that I tried to peel a sticker off the back, and it wasn't coming off without card attached to it, so I gave it up. As far as I'm concerned, you'd have to be an adhesive removal expert to pull that trick off. There are stickers that are made to peel off and they have arrows on the corners to guide you. The ones they want to stay on are usually there for good. Just my 2 cents...

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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Variants.
« on: February 6, 2003, 02:15 PM »
First, let me say that I appreciate the leg work and the info you have found on theImperial Officer Head Sculpts. Here are some of my thoughts and questions after my own research...

1. What is the deal with the images of these guys on Ebay. There are very few Imperial Officers there with quality images. They are fuzzy or they are far away shots that disables anyone from seeing which head the figure actually has. Frustrating. Here is an example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3112249096&category=2476

Now this seller is either making things up or this is the POTJ variant due to him saying it is a lftover from a previous release packaged on the AOTC 'blue' card. I think that peoples ignorance of this variant is helping sellers sway the buyer with general or false statements.

2. Which is the 'real' short produced Imp. Officer? I have seen people saying they have it up for auction, and there are a couple cases where it is one or the other. I think there is some confusion due to people thinking that the regular sculpt is the POTJ sculpt. I would think it's the blonde haired officer, but not really certain yet.

3. Here are the major differences that will help tell them apart...

POTJ sculpt = brown hair, eyebrows & sideburns, broad apple shaped chin & blue eyes.

AOTC/Saga #1 = brown hair, eyebrows and sideburns, thin, egg-shaped chin & brown eyes.

AOTC/Saga #2 = blonde hair, eyebrows & light or no sideburns (hard to tell from images), broad chin (apple-shaped) and blue eyes.

If anyone has an Imperial Officer with the same features described after the POTJ version, please let us know...

The other variant I am curious about is the 'Padme (Coruscant)" figure with the original error text. The only variants I've been able to find are the stickered text correction card, or the printed text correction card. If anyone can provide proof that Hasbro released any Padme (Coruscant) with the error text printed on the card back, please let me know...

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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Variants.
« on: February 4, 2003, 11:06 AM »
Alright,
you got me JMac. Enlighten me on this 3rd head sculpt. I have not heard or seen anything. Unfortunately, the images on ebay at the moment are not useful for examining for different head variants. They are too small or extremely low in quality. So my answer is... I do not know. Very rare that happens. If I hear or see anything, you know I'll make sure you hear about it.

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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Variants.
« on: February 3, 2003, 05:47 PM »
I went through the same thing and actually opened a Vader to twist his wrist and convince myself it was a major fake. The first one that came up on ebay sold for over $100 and that was when nobody had heard much about it. The value doesn't seem to be much better for one or the other yet, but that guy must be banging his head in anguish right now.

Some variant news and updates...

-Ephant Mon has been reported to have 2 different shades of gray painted on his skin. One is obviously darker than the other and there seem to be enough that this could be a variant. I'll keep people posted when I learn more.
- The Imperial Officer is starting to show up on some pegs and there are 2 head sculpts. The common one is the rehashed POTJ head and the newly sculpted head is reported to be much more rare and averaging 1 per case (much like the shaven Endor Rebel Soldier). I personally would get both, but if you see the newer sculpt anywhere, grab it first! Same goes for the Rebel Trooper with a new head sculpt! They have rehashed the POTJ, and also have a new head sculpt variant. Not totally sure the rate of his appearing, but I would venture to say, the newer one is always the better.
- Be on the look out for Kmart to start Clearancing their holiday and 2002 stock. The elusive holiday 14-pack should start rearing it's head and be for a very reasonable price. This is one you want to keep in the box! Unlike the KBToys 4-packs, this is sealed and gift sets usually pick up steam as more time goes by...

That's it for now. Keep those questions and comments coming! I live for them!

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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Can Someone Please Tell Me...
« on: February 2, 2003, 02:23 PM »
For some reason, I always thought the vinyl figs were 12" too. Scared me for a minute. Thought I was missing something. I assume these figures do not have articulation and are more statuesque. Thank you for enlightening me Nicklab. It was starting to make me a little bit crazy...

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Saga '02-'04 / Can Someone Please Tell Me...
« on: February 2, 2003, 01:44 AM »
What in the hell this is?!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3112010718&category=2476

I am totally baffled and I can't even begin to think this is legit!

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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Variants.
« on: February 1, 2003, 06:55 PM »
I have verified it...

I'll explain and get you guys some proof soon. You can also look under the actual figure here for a pretty darn descriptive little blurb on this particular variant...

the regular hand looks like this...
http://starwars.hasbro.com/toyshowcase/item.cfm?sku=84580&x=19&y=9

the hand gripping, or curled looks like this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3110512226&category=2476

or this...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3109930883&category=2476

This is from the lists I spent such a  long and hard time on...

30. Darth Vader (Bespin Duel) / Collection 1
Note: The clenched/curled left hand variant was considered to be an error when it was first discovered in the collector’s market. Hasbro has released information stating that it is a correction to the straight fingered, left outreaching hand variant. The change was made because Hasbro thought the
clenched hand was closer to the revelation scene at the climax of The Empire Strikes Back. The reason the clenched hand was rare earlier was due to the straight handed variant being the first released and they decided to deplete
the run they had produced before releasing the clenched hand (correction) variant. It now appears that the straight handed variant is the limited run and the clenched the more common.
___ w/straight reaching left hand (index, middle and ring fingers are straight)
___ w/clenched/curled left hand (index, middle and ring fingers are bent/curled)

Now this is not entirely true...

I am revising the lists (WHY?!!! WHY?!!!) and the curled is the rarer of the 2 variants. The reason being it was released late in the run and so Hasbro had a set # of Vaders they decided to produce and the run was close to the end anyway before the decision was made to change the hand sculpt. So they stopped production, switched hands and plopped them on the remaining Vaders that had yet to be packaged. I did think it a farce and a scam, but it is a bonafide reality. Lee's Toy Review produced an early image guide for the AOTC release and they provide a close-up photo of both hand versions and I have actually owned the curled hand version at one point and after my sacriligious openning of a MOMC Vader to investigate, was sure of the variant when I finally saw it.

Any more questions?

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Modern Trading / Re:stormtrippers 2003 haves and wants
« on: January 29, 2003, 12:35 AM »
Hey, I have:
DARKTROOPER

might be interested in all 3 of your 'loose' Chewies and Dexter. Tell me about the Dexter. Background insert or not? I assume the 'pipe' text on the side is covered up, but if not, I'll go straight up with him for Darktrooper. Let me know...

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Other Collectibles / WOTC Star Wars Miniatures
« on: January 26, 2003, 03:04 AM »
Star Wars Clix?

I know that licensing would be a pretty big task for Wizkids to pull off, but I would love to see them do a line of Star Wars 'clix'!
The Mage Knight stuff is pretty cool, Mechwarrior is ok, and I am hopelessly addicted to the new Marvel Clobberin' Time Heroclix run! Anyone else agree this would be an ultra-cool thing to add to our collecting and role playing lives?

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Modern Trading / Re:Thomas Grey Trade List Updated 1/26/03
« on: January 26, 2003, 02:52 AM »
My updated list includes:
Star Tours
Trash Compactor sets
X-men & Daredevil comics!!!
CCGs
a 2003 Treasure Hunt Hotwheels Car
and other good stuff!!!

Check it out!

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Feedback / Bad Trader Thread
« on: January 25, 2003, 12:31 AM »
Alas, they do exist and this is the place to warn others of those 'bad guys' out there. They rip you off, send damaged goods and do not compensate and they make the trading world much less attractive to be a part of. These 'bad traders' do not necessarilly have to be people you've traded with here. Let's make this a place for posting bad traders you've run into accross the Star Wars Fan Site Universe.

I had a very negative experience at Rebelscum some time ago with "Ryjam 282" and I'm not alone. Instead of rehash it here, I'll direct you to a thread or 2 regarding our experience. He's a real doozy and has no respect for the trade code or his fellow traders.

scroll down on this page and look for a post by yours truly (rorworr)
http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=21;t=003468;p=1

do not hesitate to click on page 2 for more great feedback on this troll of a human being and trader.

Please add your bad traders and lets make the trading world a better place!!!

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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Variants.
« on: January 22, 2003, 04:21 PM »
There is really no difference in value between the metal peg showing and the 'fleshy' peg variants of Bespin Luke. They both get between $8-$15 at auction and in monthly price guides. The metal peg variant is a little more common because that is how most Luke's were produced. I think Hasbro started to get concerned about any figure with exposed metal, so they produced the 'fleshy' peg variant. While you might be seeing more of these than the metal, fewer were produced becuase they had already produced a good portion of the amount the alotted for this figure.

The charred stump is very rare and I think as more come into light, it will be moe coveted than the 'bloody' variant. I have heard of 3 other than yours, so it definitely isn't a 'one-of-a-kind' deal and that actually goes in your favor. A rare error that has several reported usually ends up being quite valuable. I'd say at this point, you'd be looking at about $30 - $50 on ebay. This is a good error/variant to have and hold onto! If I find out any more, I'll let you know.

There are actually a few unique 'bloody' Luke's on ebay as completed and/or up for auction items. One has the hand loose in the bubble, one has the hand attached to the stump and one is missing the hand. Pretty cool if you ask me...

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Saga '02-'04 / Variants.
« on: January 22, 2003, 01:21 AM »
Hey, as the local variant and error expert, I thought it would be appropriate to have a thread dedicated to all of the variants and errors that have come along and are discovered with the AOTC/Saga line. If you have any questions about variants or errors, you own or have found any you think are cool or worth mentioning or just want to share your favorite one, this will be the place to do it. I know there are a couple threads that refer to variants already, but let's make this the place to post those interesting items.

My favorite variant that I own is probably the Dexter Jettster with background insert and 'pipe' text visible or my 'bloody' Bespin Luke Skywalker.

My favorite error figure is my 'headless' Jango Fett (Final Battle) with the head loose in the bottom of the bubble. It just looks cooler minus that helmeted dome of his.

The most valuable at this point are the Clone Trooper (red) and the Jango Fett (Kamino Escape) without black paint in the visor. They currently are fetching over $100 a piece!

I'll add more to this thread soon and post updates as I find them. Our variant/error checklists are currently being overhauled to accomodate for the new stuff and to make them easier to read, even more specific and will be worth the wait. For now, this is where I will update you with the current variant hype and newly discovered ones.

One new figure of interest is the Padme Amidala (Coruscant Attack). I have the correction stickered bio text on the card back figure and printed correction bio text on card back variants. The original error text variant has been rumored to have never made it to retail.

The original text reads:
"An explosion tears apart the royal ship that is supposedly carrying the queen of Naboo, just as the vessel reaches Coruscant. Ready to defend those in danger, Senator Padme Amidala is relieved that the ship was a decoy and the queen is safe, but she is alarmed by the violent attack and its menacing implications."

The corrected text reads:
"Senator Amidala, the former queen of Naboo, returns to  Coruscant to vote on the critical issue of creating an army for the Republic to assist the overwhelmed Jedi. As her Naboo Cruiser arrives, an explosion tears apart the ship. Fortunately Padme, disguised as a Naboo Pilot, eludes danger, but her decoy Carde, disguised as Senator Amidala, was not as lucky."

If anyone out there has the variant with the original text, I would be very interested to know about it!

The stickered variant is extremely rare! I have found only 1 after thumbing through countless pegged Amidala's. I'll keep you posted on how this figure is doing on ebay and others as well.

Good luck and hunting!

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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Problems with Saga?
« on: January 17, 2003, 04:54 PM »
First, most of the retail stores are suffering from the dockworkers strike still. They have exhausted most of their stock and haven't received back up yet due to shipping delays and problems. Other retail outlets have become weary of over-ordering and being left holding a lrage bag they have to clearance to get rid of and lose some profit. They remember Episode 1, POTJ and they took another chance with AOTC and they got burned again. They get stuck with several figures that never move off the pegs and they get real tired of them taking up space and taking up room the newer stuff could be in. Most have decided to wait until they have cleared most out before they even order again and then they don't order enough to meet the demand. Then we are stuck missing certain waves because retailers are playing it cautious... on & on & on...

KB Toys has been the most consistent and dependible source for figures since they were first released in Colorado. All others suck! Kmart was actually hanging in there for me, but they have nothing on pegs because they aren't ordering new stuff. Why not you may ask? Because they are going to go out of business and they can't order new stuff for a store that won't be there when the shipment arrives!!!

I think the variant/error thing has gotten out of hand and I believe that Hasbro has purposely created many. They also are obviously having trouble getting the paint, sculpting and text correct. This tells me that they are not as quality concerned as they say they are. I love that they are doing some new sculpts of characters from Episodes 4-6. I wish they would just make an effort to make all figures equally nice. The posed figures (no knee joint or leg articulation) really bug me. It's not an action figure if it doesn't move in my book. Who cares how good it looks!

Anyway, done ranting...

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