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Title: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Brian on April 10, 2008, 08:41 AM
RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/New_Rumor_List_For_The_Legacy_Collection_113781.asp) has another rumor list up of a wave of 8 figures focusing on the "Vector" crossover story in the comic books.  They have a list of 8 figures (with a BAF), as well as a couple of vehicles.  Here's what's listed, more details at the linky:

Action Figures
Zayne Carrick (KOTOR)
Celeste Morne (KOTOR)
Darth Vader (Dark Times)
Luke Skywalker (Rebellion)
Cade Skywalker (Legacy)
Darth Krayt (Legacy)
Male Muur talisman holder
Rakghoul (KOTOR)
Build-A-Figure: HK-47 (KOTOR)

Vehicles
B-Wing Starfighter with Pilot (Rebellion)
TIE Predator with Pilot (Legacy)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 10, 2008, 09:03 AM
Where's all the OT goodness they promised?  :(
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Rune Haako on April 10, 2008, 09:14 AM
I don't know who half those characters even are.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Brian on April 10, 2008, 09:53 AM
Where's all the OT goodness they promised?  :(

That's sort of what I'm wondering as well.  I mean, all this Falcon news has pretty much made my year already from a collecting standpoint, but it would be nice to get some more OT figure love as well.  I'm open to EU figures and all that, I know some people really dig 'em, but for me - I'd rather have more movie-based waves and figures.  It might just be the fact that this year seems so OT light with 2 ROTS waves, a big Clone Wars push, lots of EU stuff, the Force Unleashed, etc.  We have a ROTJ wave, and hopefully an ANH wave by the end of the year, but that might be it in the basic line.  I'm glad we have some stuff in the Evolutions line (and a bit in comic packs), but otherwise things might be light.  I guess it all depends if those UBP ideas pan out as well, as those rumors indicated OT-based packs (which would be great).

I'm not really familiar with the majority of these names either.  I know sort of who they are, but I don't know much about the characters aside from obvious ones (Luke/Vader), and a little bit of Legacy (which I read for a time).  It seems like these would be perfectly suited for the comic packs, and leave the basic wave for something like more movie figures.  But, like I said, I know EU has its fans, so some people might be really psyched for something like this.  I'm curious where this line fits in though, since we pretty much know the lineup of waves for the Legacy collection (ROTJ, CW, repaint, ROTS, ANH) - at least according to the Hasbro Q and A.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: evenflow on April 10, 2008, 11:00 AM
Cade Skywalker (Legacy) and Darth Krayt (Legacy), as well as HK-47 sound good, but i am not sure who the rest are. 
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 10, 2008, 11:27 AM
Well here's my thoughts on this RUMOR list.

Action Figures
Zayne Carrick (KOTOR)-Meh, I'll prolly buy him for background filler. Not interested in the actual character.
Celeste Morne (KOTOR)-Okay I DO like the look of this character. I'll buy it.
Darth Vader (Dark Times)-gawd, another Vader? This I will prolly pass on.
Luke Skywalker (Rebellion)-It really is going to depend on sculpt and outfit. I'm on the fence with this one.
Cade Skywalker (Legacy)-on the fence here too.
Darth Krayt (Legacy)-Absolutely. I really dig the look of this character. I'll be getting him for sure.
Male Muur talisman holder-hmm, on the fence but leaning towards yes. At the least he'd make good background filler.
Rakghoul (KOTOR)-maybe, but leaning towards no.
Build-A-Figure: HK-47 (KOTOR)-Oh HELL'S yeah. Now the problem becomes if he is indeed a BAF droid. Then I'll be forced to buy the whole wave. Honestly Hasbro just needs to have six figures to make a BAF HK-47. So, they can easily toss out Vader and Luke or even the obscure Talisman and Rakghoul figures from this wave.

Vehicles
B-Wing Starfighter with Pilot (Rebellion)-Definite purchase. Hopefully now we get the human pilot here.
TIE Predator with Pilot (Legacy)-sure, this is a cool enough vehicle. Though they remind me of flies for some reason. I'll get one for the novelty of it.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: ruiner on April 10, 2008, 11:32 AM
It's official.  Hasbro has run out of material.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Matt on April 10, 2008, 11:40 AM
I don't know who half those characters even are.

That cannot be a good sign.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: ctonra on April 10, 2008, 01:17 PM
I love it hopefully we get more comic figures come on Big H test the waters.  then dive right on in.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: CHEWIE on April 10, 2008, 01:22 PM
Not too excited about these considering I don't know who many of them are.  But, if they're nice sculpts, count me in.  Variety is the spice of life when it comes to Star Wars.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Jesse James on April 10, 2008, 03:20 PM
I don't know who half those characters even are.

That cannot be a good sign.

 :D
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 10, 2008, 07:28 PM
Wow, that list is...umm...obscure?  Are they going to put Ken Palpatine in the next wave?  And in all seriousness, if they're going to make characters that nobody (not even Rune) knows, what is really stopping them (LFL aside) from doing a Bea Arthur figure from the Holiday Special?

Oh well, this will enable me to spend the money elsewhere, like on the BMF Falcon.   ;D
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: David on April 10, 2008, 08:39 PM
It's official.  Hasbro has run out of material.

No, they're just making crappy choices. There's still plenty of material out there; just look at the diversity in the voting in JD's wishlists.

I'm all for obscurity as long as 1) someone is getting a character they want to see made 2) it's a decent figure...but this is just stupid. When Rune doesn't even know who half the characters in a wave are, you know there's something wrong with the choices Hasbro made. :)

That being said, this is just a rumor, so I'm not gonna go on a rant until we get more details.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on April 10, 2008, 09:51 PM
Seems like a decent list of choices to me.  I didn't much care for the Rakghouls, I was kinda disappointed that Gryph didn't make the cut.  (Or if he did elsewhere, I'm in the dark.)   I'd be sad to see Legacy come and go without Darth Krayt, so woo.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: speedermike on April 10, 2008, 10:09 PM
I don't know who most of these charcaters are, so this wave is a big question mark to me. I think the best way to handle EU stuff is the comic packs.  At least when I get one, and I don't know the characters, I can read about them.  It's a good way to indroduce fringe elements into the mainstream collection.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Jesse James on April 12, 2008, 01:41 AM
I know the KOTOR characters, but that was about it...  Actually I was kinda digging the Rahk Ghoul's because it was giving me hope of more obscure characters from KOTOR, not just important ones.  HK-47 was the highlight of the list to me...  And he's the pack-in pieces.  Go figure.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Rob on April 12, 2008, 02:00 AM
From about 7th grade, until about a year ago - I must have read 50 Star Wars novels full of characters I'd be interested in buying figures of.

But all Hasbro seems to want to make is comic book and video game figures.

Why?
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Ryan on April 12, 2008, 07:36 AM
I think it is because it is easier to make a figure from the comics or the video games. Both comics and games are a visual media type, so there is actually one set look for the characters. Whereas for a character from the novels we all may have a different mental picture of each particular character. Settling on a final figure design that will please as many people as possible would be very difficult.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: JangoTat on April 12, 2008, 11:23 AM
I am actually pretty excited for this wave, mostly because I dont know any of these characters so that way i can just pass on them completly and the money that wouldve gone into it will probably go into the MF. ::)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: CorranHorn on April 13, 2008, 11:25 PM
I think it is because it is easier to make a figure from the comics or the video games. Both comics and games are a visual media type, so there is actually one set look for the characters. Whereas for a character from the novels we all may have a different mental picture of each particular character. Settling on a final figure design that will please as many people as possible would be very difficult.

The problem with that as I see it is that Hasbro is missing the opportunity to immortalize in plastic characters which have had a lasting impact on the EU. Take for example Talon Karrde, it took them 13 years to get to making this figure, meanwhile characters just seen in comics in the last year or two and who don't play major roles in the EU segment of the Saga (Mouse and Basso as an example) are already getting figures. Where's the love for Ulic Qel-Droma, Exar Kun, Corran Horn (what, like I wasn't going to add him?  ;D), Ysanne Isard, the Noghri, the Yuuzhan Vong, the Solo kids, etc? I think with the NJO Luke that came in the Evolutions set, a figure which I believe has no visual reference for (someone correct me if I'm wrong), Hasbro could make a litany of novel-based characters based on what reference material is available. And in many cases that material includes visual guides and CCG cards with images of the characters. Just my 2 pennies...
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Jesse James on April 13, 2008, 11:44 PM
I think some characters are going to get made from media that didn't really have art to it...  Keyan Farlander's getting a figure, and granted he's from a game, but he's never pictured.  The only thing he ever got a picture from was an essential guide I think, and that was for his time in the NJO series of novels...  His game character is unidentifiable and never pictured.

I think we'll see more characters from novels if they get some kind of graphic representation then...  Kind of like the Zahn Trilogy figures we get through their comic adaptation.  That works for me.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 14, 2008, 10:11 AM
...Kind of like the Zahn Trilogy figures we get through their comic adaptation.  That works for me.

Man, we need some Noghri!
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: ctonra on April 14, 2008, 11:14 AM
to me this wave looks like a partnership between Dark Horse and Hasbro to help the martket become familar with Current Comic books that new fans can jump into now and open new sales.
I deffenetly see Hasbro going back and mining older comics, video games and novels for more figs,  But the more reference pictures there are available for a character the better chance we will be seeing it in plastic. 
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 14, 2008, 11:57 AM
I think with the NJO Luke that came in the Evolutions set, a figure which I believe has no visual reference for (someone correct me if I'm wrong),


There was reference. Your points are good, I just wanted to share the pic.
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/skywalking.jpg)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 14, 2008, 12:04 PM
I would have rather they focused on KOTOR characters from the games like Bastilla Shan, Ordo, Sion. I am stoked about HK-47, at least one made it. Most of the characters are flatliners. It is a great way to get Krayt and a Jedi Cade in the line. I just feel they are giving Legacy a little too much love for being around for such a short time. The Rebellion Luke might be cool too.

I want more OTC!!!!!!
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: CorranHorn on April 14, 2008, 06:50 PM
I think with the NJO Luke that came in the Evolutions set, a figure which I believe has no visual reference for (someone correct me if I'm wrong),


There was reference. Your points are good, I just wanted to share the pic.

Cool, I've never seen that pic before. I see the image comes from a scan of the Insider magazine. Is that the only place to locate the pic, was it used elsewhere? The use of the picture as a reference for a new figure gives credence to the idea that other such pictures including those used in the Essential Guides should be sufficient reference material to make certain novel characters into figures. Of course Hasbro could say they only used the image above because it was for a Luke figure and they wouldn't do this elsewhere, but that would be a cop out on their part I think.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on April 18, 2008, 06:43 PM
From about 7th grade, until about a year ago - I must have read 50 Star Wars novels full of characters I'd be interested in buying figures of.

But all Hasbro seems to want to make is comic book and video game figures.

Why?

Since I was in the 4th grade until... well, now, I've read the entire Marvel/Dark Horse run of Star Wars comics-- and yet people keep wanting to make figures from the novels. 

Why? :)

Ah, the fun of the hobby.   If we could fight to the death to decide who does and doesn't get made, surely we would.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Rob on April 19, 2008, 11:37 AM

Since I was in the 4th grade until... well, now, I've read the entire Marvel/Dark Horse run of Star Wars comics-- and yet people keep wanting to make figures from the novels. 

Why? :)

Ah, the fun of the hobby. 


I'm not saying they should stop making figures from the comics, I just wish they could get a little more balanced.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: P-Siddy on April 19, 2008, 01:46 PM
If we could fight to the death to decide who does and doesn't get made, surely we would.

Ooh, now there's an idea. But the Big H and LFL probably wouldn't like it as the collector/fan base would surely be dwindled... and then it'd have to be resurrected with the Rule of Two.  :D
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: CorranHorn on April 19, 2008, 06:17 PM

Since I was in the 4th grade until... well, now, I've read the entire Marvel/Dark Horse run of Star Wars comics-- and yet people keep wanting to make figures from the novels. 

Why? :)

Ah, the fun of the hobby. 


I'm not saying they should stop making figures from the comics, I just wish they could get a little more balanced.

Definitely, plus many of the novel characters had profound impacts on the Expanded Universe, appearing in multiple books. Why should they get left out if Hasbro can prove that characters with little visual reference can be made.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 21, 2008, 02:22 PM
Ooh, now there's an idea. But the Big H and LFL probably wouldn't like it as the collector/fan base would surely be dwindled... and then it'd have to be resurrected with the Rule of Two.  :D

How would that work? One to have the toys and the other to crave them?  ;)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: jedipurge on April 21, 2008, 03:06 PM
I think with the NJO Luke that came in the Evolutions set, a figure which I believe has no visual reference for (someone correct me if I'm wrong),


There was reference. Your points are good, I just wanted to share the pic.
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/skywalking.jpg)
Based on the pic is probably why they went with the lightsaber choice for Luke, that's definately not his ROTJ saber hilt.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: David on April 26, 2008, 09:27 PM
Hasbro has confirmed two EU figures in this week's QnA...

Quinlan Vos (http://www.mousedroid.com/hasbro/index.html) (perhaps the Jedi robes version?)

and Lumiya (http://www.sandtroopers.com/smf/index.php?topic=5183.msg182817#msg182817) w/alternate Shira Brie 'mode'

Perhaps these two will appear in this wave?


EDIT: My mistake, Lumiya will be in the comic pack line. Still, cool EU news though!
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Morgbug on May 6, 2008, 01:42 PM
Hasbro has confirmed two EU figures in this week's QnA...

Quinlan Vos (http://www.mousedroid.com/hasbro/index.html) (perhaps the Jedi robes version?)

and ...

Oh goody, QV can peg warm beside the comic packs that will be on the pegs for all eternity around here. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 12 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Scott on December 22, 2008, 09:38 AM
This wave has been confirmed per the latest Q&A
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 12 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 22, 2008, 09:45 AM
Cool. It's good timing for me.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Wave?
Post by: Oboewan on December 23, 2008, 01:15 PM
Hasbro has confirmed two EU figures in this week's QnA...

Quinlan Vos (http://www.mousedroid.com/hasbro/index.html) (perhaps the Jedi robes version?)

and ...

Oh goody, QV can peg warm beside the comic packs that will be on the pegs for all eternity around here. 

It'll probably just be a carded release of the verions USED in the comic pack  :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on December 23, 2008, 03:40 PM
Hasbro said a "mix" too...  Not a single-theme wave of EU figures like Wave 2 Legacy was...  Anyone else a bit geeked at the possibilities? :)

I'd love a new Kyle Katarn, but I can't say I'm hopeful.  Katarn really is a bitchin' character though and can be armed to the teeth with accessories.  SA Kyle would make my top 10 list for sure.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: CorranHorn on December 23, 2008, 04:12 PM
Hasbro said a "mix" too...  Not a single-theme wave of EU figures like Wave 2 Legacy was...  Anyone else a bit geeked at the possibilities? :)

I'd love a new Kyle Katarn, but I can't say I'm hopeful.  Katarn really is a bitchin' character though and can be armed to the teeth with accessories.  SA Kyle would make my top 10 list for sure.

JJ - Hasbro has previously confirmed a new Kyle Katarn with a Yuuzhan Vong in a comic pack for 09. This will be based on an issue of SW Tales.

My hopes for an EU wave would be a six figure BAD wave as follows (without taking anything away from potential comic packs though with one notable exception)...

1.) Corran Horn (Jedi Knight)
2.) Jaina Solo (NJO)
3.) Jacen Solo (NJO)
4.) Mara Jade-Skywalker (Jedi Master)
5.) Admiral Daala
6.) Tenel Ka (NJO)
BAD: Emtrey (M-3PO) from Rogue Squadron comics

I was tempted to do an 8 figure wave with half the wave being dedicated just to Corran Horn wave...

1.) Corran Horn (NJO Jedi Knight)
2.) Corran Horn (CorSec Officer)
3.) Corran Horn (X-Wing Pilot)
4.) Keiran Halcyon (I, Jedi)
BAD #1 - Whistler

Now that would rule  ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on December 23, 2008, 04:30 PM
Yeah they've mentioned the NJO era Kyle but I'm hoping for video game Kyle...  He really didn't get much attention in the NJO and his origins are from Dark Forces/Jedi Knight, so I just consider that the more iconic Kyle.

It's kind of like Keyan Farlander...  They gave us him in his B-Wing outfit but ultimately he was an X-Winger since that was the first game he was introduced in.  I dig him as a B-Winger but I'd take him in an orange jumpsuit too at some point.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Nicklab on December 23, 2008, 06:07 PM
Here's my own speculation/wishlist...

-K'krukh (confirmed)
-Jacen Solo
-Jaina Solo
-Bastila Shan
-Corran Horn
-Tyvokka (my own write-in/wishlist EU character)
BAF - Dark Trooper
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on December 23, 2008, 06:17 PM
Yeah they've mentioned the NJO era Kyle but I'm hoping for video game Kyle...  He really didn't get much attention in the NJO and his origins are from Dark Forces/Jedi Knight, so I just consider that the more iconic Kyle.

It's kind of like Keyan Farlander...  They gave us him in his B-Wing outfit but ultimately he was an X-Winger since that was the first game he was introduced in.  I dig him as a B-Winger but I'd take him in an orange jumpsuit too at some point.

I agree with you Jesse, the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight is the Katarn I'm interested in. I hate the idea of Yuzhan Vong characters.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: David on December 23, 2008, 11:02 PM
Here's my EU wave wishlist:

-Bastila Shan (Knights of the Old Republic)
-K'Kruhk (Clone Wars)
-Sha'a Gi (Clone Wars)
-Jastus Farr (Purge)
-Ackmena w/Giant Rat (Holiday Special)
-Dash Rendar (Shadows of the Empire)
B-A-D: L8-L9 (Clone Wars)

Of course, most of that'll probably never happen. :-\

And I really don't give a rat's ass about those Solo kids. :P
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: evenflow on December 24, 2008, 08:00 AM
I would like to see

- K'Kruhk
- Nomi Sunrider
- Master Vodo Baas
- Guri
- Dash Rendar
- Sish Sadeet

BAD: Leebo
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Nicklab on December 24, 2008, 02:49 PM
A couple of mentions by Hasbro have got me wondering...could they try to shoe-horn the phase 2 armor version of Captain Fordo into this wave?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: David on December 24, 2008, 02:55 PM
That would be awesome to see more figures from the micro-series, even if it's just that one. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Fordo in this wave.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 26, 2008, 10:46 AM
That would be awesome to see more figures from the micro-series, even if it's just that one. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Fordo in this wave.

Why not? They did say it wouldn't be a themed wave.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Rob on December 27, 2008, 12:11 AM
I want Jorus C'baoth made.  Other than that, no preference.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Scott on May 24, 2009, 01:23 AM
Jacen and Jaina have been confirmed

http://www.collectionstation.com/groups/view/Star-Wars/Official-Hasbro-Star-Wars-Q-A-for-522_51
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 24, 2009, 02:22 PM
I'm curious on which version of the Solo twins we'll get?  Heir to the Empire series babies? (probably not) NJO Teenagers?  Legacy of the Force Adults?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: EpicGon on May 24, 2009, 02:42 PM
I don´t know if this could be possible, but in Battlefront II we have generic troopers who could be released as EU characters, for example the rebel vanguard trooper beidge uniform with bazuka, the female sniper in commando outfit, the imperial officer who wears a uniform similar to Veers At At commander gear, the heavy imperial sandtrooper with bazuka. From Battlefront series (OT characters) we only have TSC rebel vanguard (afro) and TLC imperial engineer.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on May 24, 2009, 03:40 PM
I find some of the BF characters to be a bit on the lame side...  A generic Officer in battle gear would be interesting simply because it's just a generic version of Veers, more or less.  I like the Imp. ENgineer, but only because I've BS'd them into "Imperial Combat Engineers", and with a DS Trooper helmet or black kepi hat, they look sharp as guys clearing obstacles for the troops or doing demo work... 

The Vanguard is really not a cool figure to me though...  Same as some of the other characters like the bulky Sandtrooper.  Battlefront's a fun game but I've sort of written most of it out of my mind as far as EU goes.  Just not my cup of tea I guess.  I'm not a big fan of anything Marvel either though...  I really never liked the original comics much.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: David on May 24, 2009, 04:02 PM
I think the Rebel Smuggler and the female Rebel Marksman from Battlefront II would be cool figures. I've always wanted more stuff from the Battlefront games, especially some of the vehicles.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Corax on May 24, 2009, 04:30 PM
I'm curious on which version of the Solo twins we'll get?  Heir to the Empire series babies? (probably not) NJO Teenagers?  Legacy of the Force Adults?


When asked about this by SSG back in December Hasbro said:

SSG: You said in a recent answer that the Solo twins, while difficult to do because of limited visual references, were high on your wish list. Hypothetically speaking, if you were to make these long-request characters, which versions would you do? Young Jedi Knights (there's a good picture of them in the recent Jedi vs. Sith guide), NJO-era Jedi Knights (probably the most requested versions, and based on Japanese cover art which is probably the largest body of visual reference for these characters and was even used by the Official Site as its EU menu before the redesign) or Legacy of the Force-era (with the added advantage that an alternate head and lightsaber and removable cape would allow you to do Jacen and Caedus as one figure)?

Hasbro: If we did them, hypothetically speaking, it would be the New Jedi Order-era, based on the Japanese cover art. This would be the most solid selection for the exact reasons you have pointed out - prevalence and familiarity with the character images. If we ever did Caedus, it would have to be new sculpt since the NJO-version would not work for a retrofit.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 25, 2009, 12:45 AM
Thanx for digging that up Corax.  Although now I think they might look like Anime figures for some reason!   :D

I think that Concept AOTC Anakin would make a decent Darth Caedus.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Corax on May 25, 2009, 01:46 AM
No problem Matt and I totally agree about Concept Anakin working for Caedus.  If I could find a decent match for the right arm and replace it I would make my own :)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 (?) - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on May 25, 2009, 03:18 AM
Thanks Corax for that question...  That seems to sum up who the Jacen/Jaina are likely to wind up being.  I'm not overly familiar with NJO EU, but I'm still geeked to get them regardless. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2009, 05:15 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/69.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 24, 2009, 05:18 PM
The fact that they got Jabba,s droid in there makes this wave so much cooler. An OTC character in a EU wave. Great way to get the haters to buy. Love this wave I see my buying these thrice over.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 24, 2009, 05:26 PM
I like that Dark Trooper!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Master_Phruby on July 24, 2009, 05:53 PM
Now all we need is a Dark Trooper phase II.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 24, 2009, 08:22 PM
I'm definitely going to be getting multiples of the Dark Trooper and the Spacetrooper! I'm also happy that we're getting Jaina and Jacen finally.

I'll gladly add the Shaak Ti figure to my Force Unleashed shelf.

Kinda weird how they didn't use this as an opportunity to give us Proxy by way of the B-A-D.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: CorranHorn on July 24, 2009, 08:52 PM
Now all we need is a Dark Trooper phase II.


Isn't that the BAD for the Wal-Mart Exclusive Droid Factory sets? Or is that a different Dark Trooper?

This wave looks completely awesome - the details shown in the pics are outstanding and I'm excited to see Jacen and Jaina for the first time in plastic form. What's up with the slutty Shaak Ti? Is that how she appeared in the game? Why did Hasbro go with a resculpt of the Spacetrooper, I'd be curious to know what led to that decision. And a big yay to seeing BG-J38, I've been wanting that droid since I saw him in an ROTJ Coloring book (Luke on cover) back in 1983.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Brian on July 24, 2009, 10:41 PM
I'm not the biggest EU guy in the world, but this wave does look pretty nice.  I really like the K'kruhk figure, and the Space/Darktroopers look nice too.  The Solo kids look nicely done too, and I know they've really been wanted by many.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth Broem on July 24, 2009, 11:05 PM
I do not exactly want any of the figures in the wave.  However, I want the BG-J38 so I will buy them all.  However, I do think they look like nice figures especially K'Kruhk.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 25, 2009, 11:25 AM
I'm definitely going to be getting multiples of the Dark Trooper and the Spacetrooper! I'm also happy that we're getting Jaina and Jacen finally.

I'll gladly add the Shaak Ti figure to my Force Unleashed shelf.

Kinda weird how they didn't use this as an opportunity to give us Proxy by way of the B-A-D.



Man, you are so right. WE need Proxy for our TFU figures. I'm hoping when they do make him he is well articulated. But he'd be fine as a BaD.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: speedermike on July 25, 2009, 12:38 PM
What's all that crazy stuff around Jacen's head?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darby on July 25, 2009, 12:50 PM
Really excited about K'kruhk and the Space Trooper and the BAD... not at all about the rest.  I'm not a huge EU person either, so a lot of this is lost on me.  I do like Jania though. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: P-Siddy on July 25, 2009, 12:57 PM
Odd to put a movie BAD in with EU, but they've been doing EU ones in movie waves so I guess it makes sense on Hasbro's part. I won't pick up any of this wave but want the BAD... I suppose someone here may want to trade for an EU BAD (HK, or Terminator) from the other waves.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 25, 2009, 02:35 PM
What's all that crazy stuff around Jacen's head?

It might be the Embrace of Pain...a device used by the Yuzahn Vong to torture captives.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Master_Phruby on July 25, 2009, 03:33 PM
Now all we need is a Dark Trooper phase II.


Isn't that the BAD for the Wal-Mart Exclusive Droid Factory sets? Or is that a different Dark Trooper?

The walmart one is a phase 3.

Phase 1: (http://www.iaw.on.ca/~btaylor1/DarkTrooperPhase1.gif)
Phase 2: (http://www.iaw.on.ca/~btaylor1/DarkTrooperPhase2.gif)
Phase 3: (http://www.iaw.on.ca/~btaylor1/DarkTrooperPhase3.gif)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 25, 2009, 04:25 PM
The POTF2 version was Phase III (according to the package, it's Rom Mohc)

The Wal-Mart BAF is advertised as Phase II

I'm not saying they're 100% accurate to the game, but Hasbro thinks we will have all three versions.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JediJman on July 25, 2009, 10:34 PM
BEST. WAVE. EVER.  Holy crap what an awesome assortment of figures.  There's not a one here I don't like.  I might be 3x or 4x sets just to show my appreciation to Hasbro for making such an awesome wave.  Wow.

Per Jacen, I think YV Emprace of Pain is bigger than that.  I think that's just the Yorak Coral slave piece from when he's enslaved by the YV (can't remember the name of the novel, but it's where he gets all buddy buddy with the world mind that will take control of Coruscant).  
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on July 25, 2009, 10:56 PM
The phase III had to be Mohc, as it only existed in one form (a prototype).  The Phase II were the "pinnacle", ultimately, and were the more common ones by game's end.  Phase III was a prototype suit intended to send live troopers in to support the droid troopers in the Phase II armor.

I find it interesting the one comic pack has Rom Mohc as a young man in the Clone Wars.  Go figure.  I'd rather the fat guy from Dark Forces myself. :)  Young CW era Mohc is neat too though.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Matt R. on July 26, 2009, 04:24 AM
Really excited about K'kruhk, Space Trooper, and the BAD,  I don't really care for the others but I do like Jania though.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 26, 2009, 02:41 PM
I'm not particularly thrilled with the idea of a film-based BAD in an EU wave, especially when it's a droid that has been on rumor lists as far back as 2006 and one that a lot of people have been asking for anyway.  I would have much rather seen the HK-50 repaint included as the BAD in this wave and BG-J38 be switched to the preceding TESB wave.  Granted, this is a selfish request, as there is only one figure in this wave that I really want (Shaak Ti) and three that I couldn't care less about (the Solo kids and the Spacetrooper).

That said, the sculpting on all of these look nice enough, I suppose, and I'm happy for you folks that wanted them, but the BAD thing irritates me.

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2009, 03:49 PM
I'll admit, I'm disappointed in the Spacetrooper...  Hasbro uses the comics often times as their inspiration/art they go with, but that design really just sorta sucks and is illogical, so I'm bothered by it. 

I love the rest of the wave though.  The Shaak Ti looks fantastic. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Roton7 on July 26, 2009, 08:14 PM
Wow this wave is awesome. The TFU Shaak Ti is probably all I'll end up getting, but still, people have been begging for K'Kruhk, Jacen, and Jaina for a long time!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 27, 2009, 11:52 AM
Well done wave. Can't say I'm over enthusiastic about it, but the figures look nice. I look forward to the big hairy Jedi and will most definitely put together a squad of Spacetroopers.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 11, 2009, 04:53 PM
It'd be nice if Celeste Morne got a figure. Wasn't she an interesting character? Even Hasbro said one time they would consider doing her ... she should be SA! With a removable Muur Talisman! Now it'd be super-cool if we got her in a 2-pack with Karness Muur!

Also, Darth Maladi, Darth Wyyrlok and Darth Stryfe need attention. They'd look good next to the 2009 Darth Krayt and 2008 Darth Talon.

Also, it'd be cool if Darth Zannah was made. With the 2007 Darth Bane, it'd be a worthy addition to anyone's collection.

Rebelscum.com has a "Darth Vader (Battlefront II)" figure as part of their EU Wave rumor list. How would this be different from an ordinary Darth Vader?

Now for Darth Plaguies........
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 11, 2009, 05:47 PM
Rebelscum.com has a "Darth Vader (Battlefront II)" figure as part of their EU Wave rumor list. How would this be different from an ordinary Darth Vader?

Take what RS says with a grain of salt, everything that you can think of is on their rumor list. They throw a lot of stuff out their and if it happens to stick they take credit. Did you see the Big Slave 1 Ship they said was definately coming at SDCC? The one that was on their rumor list? Neither did the rest of us.

I think Wyyrlock is a shoe in for the next Legacy Sith Lord to be made. He is after all the one who finished off Krayt and is now the Sith ruler. I am more excited about the EU offerings than the Prequal Trilogy offerings. I am sure 2010 will be full of a lot of EU stuff, I think Celeste Morne has a very strong shot in a comic pack in 2010. But I truly expect here to be packed with Darth Vader. That's one figure I can live with coming with Vader, it's taking one for the team to get her.

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Brian on September 1, 2009, 06:15 PM
JediInsider (http://jediinsider.net/g/index.php?mode=album&album=Hasbro%2FDroid_Factory%2FWave_8&dispsize=600&start=0) has some pics up of this upcoming wave.  I'm not often real big on the EU stuff, but I really like the K'Kruhk figure (and some others look pretty nifty as well).
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 1, 2009, 06:34 PM
I love this wave! I really love the BAD too!
The only one I am not crazy about is the Darktrooper, looks good just not my taste. Hopefully Jaina's head sculpt will look that good. Did you notice she has Stass Allie's legs and possibly arms? Also Jacen is the VOTC Bespin Luke with new Head/forearms.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: jono on September 3, 2009, 06:35 AM
I'm happy for all the EU guys and dissapointed that the golden insect droid comes in this wave.

Having said that these figures have a certain charm- so i won't be looking at trades just yet.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 3, 2009, 02:23 PM
I'm not often real big on the EU stuff, but I really like the K'Kruhk figure.

Agreed, I think I may actually try and track him down.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: P-Siddy on September 11, 2009, 05:03 PM
I really want BG-J38, don't care about the other figures (unfortunate that I have to buy the other figures to get BG-J38). If anyone doesn't want the BAD, let me know.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on October 1, 2009, 03:18 AM
We got some proto images in tonight and one of them is the new spiffy Jaina Solo from the upcoming Expanded Universe wave.  Jaina's good Jedi fodder (she'd make a great padawan for the Clone Wars), and a great basic EU figure.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ProtoEUJainaSolo1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1254380817,18157,)
Clicky the image to check it out!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on October 1, 2009, 09:39 AM
She also makes a great Jaina Solo.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: McMetal on October 1, 2009, 10:14 AM
Please, please, please do not step off that cliff and start putting EU characters in the Clone Wars.

To paraphrase the inimitable Jon Calipari, that's like putting poop in your ice cream.

The Clone Wars is at a whole other level of canonical legitimacy.

Let's leave them separate so the fabric of SW reality does not come crashing down.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JediJman on October 1, 2009, 10:19 AM
She also makes a great Jaina Solo.

Ditto what Nick said - I'm stoked that this is FINALLY on the way and that they did such a good job on her.

Please, please, please do not step off that cliff and start putting EU characters in the Clone Wars.

To paraphrase the inimitable Jon Calipari, that's like putting poop in your ice cream.

What EU characters are going into the Clone Wars?  Are you referring to Bossk?   ???  I guess I don't see the problem here.  I'd rather they build off known, popular EU characters from that time frame than just generating a host of brand new characters we've never heard of despite their pivotal roles (like Ahsoka).

Either way,  I'd rather see any character in the CW than have poop in my ice cream.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: McMetal on October 1, 2009, 01:26 PM

What EU characters are going into the Clone Wars?  Are you referring to Bossk?   ???  I guess I don't see the problem here.  I'd rather they build off known, popular EU characters from that time frame than just generating a host of brand new characters we've never heard of despite their pivotal roles (like Ahsoka).

Dude, I don't even know what prompted my comment. Maybe I posted in the wrong thread, I don't know. I swear someone had made a comment about adding one of the EU characters to the Clone Wars show as a Jedi Padawan, but I can't remember who it was now.

Ugh...bad barin today, sorry for posting nonsense.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on November 11, 2009, 02:56 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EUWaveShaakTiLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.JediDefender.com)

New loose Shaak Ti image from the EU Wave (The Force Unleashed).  EU's attempts to satiate the desire for scantily clad female characters in Star Wars knows no bounds!

Slick looking figure though.  Scads of articulation and a great sculpt.  Superior to her ROTS figure by far, which is kind of ironic.  That's one I'd like to see updated over figures like Agen Kolar.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Keonobi on November 11, 2009, 03:30 PM
Bikinis do make the best defense against dangerous fungi and lightsabers.

Great looking figure, I think the EU wave has some of the best looking figures coming out this coming 6 months.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: McMetal on November 11, 2009, 04:23 PM
Meh...Grievous fodder.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 11, 2009, 06:43 PM
Damn good figure. Pictures of the figure's design have been pretty consistent, so I hope Hasbro doesn't pull any last-minute attempts with this figure that end up messing it up.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JediJman on November 11, 2009, 11:43 PM
Easily one the very best figures to be released in the Legacy line.  I can't wait for this figure (or the rest of the wave for that matter!)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on November 12, 2009, 01:22 AM
What we're seeing above is what we'll get, so I don't forsee any problems.  She looks good...  And should go nicely with the funky Felucia Rancors.  I am going to maybe nab some fake plants from the fish supply area to just spruce up a little Felucia shelf at some point.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jayson on November 12, 2009, 10:17 AM
Too bad they couldn't have given that lightsaber to the new ROTS Agen Kolar.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 13, 2009, 06:53 PM
Too bad they couldn't have given that lightsaber to the new ROTS Agen Kolar.

That would actually work, since they have similar lightsaber designs.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 14, 2009, 04:11 PM
With the new Purge comic hitting stores now, I was thinking that Sha Koon (Plo Koon's neice) would actually make a pretty good figure. Yeah, not everyone knows who she is, but she'd be one of those interesting figures to include in a future EU wave.  :D
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 18, 2009, 12:28 AM
Wow, so Hasbro just answered the recent Q/As and...

Dang, it looks like TLC Wave 13 (EU) is gonna be the entirely last wave of Legacy (from what Hasbro is hinting at).  :o What's next? From what Hasbro said, Wave 13 should hit around Febuary ... does that mean that whatever line is next will hit around the summer?  ???

Honestly, I wish that TLC would be able to continue, but, here goes nothing...
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JediJman on November 18, 2009, 01:04 AM
Wow, so Hasbro just answered the recent Q/As and...

Dang, it looks like TLC Wave 13 (EU) is gonna be the entirely last wave of Legacy (from what Hasbro is hinting at).  :o What's next? From what Hasbro said, Wave 13 should hit around Febuary ... does that mean that whatever line is next will hit around the summer?  ???

Honestly, I wish that TLC would be able to continue, but, here goes nothing...

I'm sure there will be some kind of basic line.  I don't really care if they rename the line to something else, but I sure hope they keep similar packaging.  These current cards are much better than the rounded off bubbles they had prior.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 18, 2009, 01:57 AM
I'm sure there will be some kind of basic line.  I don't really care if they rename the line to something else, but I sure hope they keep similar packaging.  These current cards are much better than the rounded off bubbles they had prior.

I LOVE the packaging!  ;D I hope Hasbro doesn't change it! It just came out! And I honestly don't like what I'm hearing about the silver vintage/retro-styled packaging ... I think the new cardbacks are sick.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 18, 2009, 09:17 AM
Wow, so Hasbro just answered the recent Q/As and...

Dang, it looks like TLC Wave 13 (EU) is gonna be the entirely last wave of Legacy (from what Hasbro is hinting at).  :o What's next? From what Hasbro said, Wave 13 should hit around Febuary ... does that mean that whatever line is next will hit around the summer?  ???

Honestly, I wish that TLC would be able to continue, but, here goes nothing...

Which Q&A said that?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 18, 2009, 05:03 PM
Which Q&A said that?

I wondered the same thing when I saw that post on these boards and I poured through the Q&A answers last night and I believe this is the question and answer he's referring to:

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QUESTION:  I'm wondering if you could give us an idea of how you will be handling future EU figure releases. As you have indicated, the comic pack line is not selling as well as it once was and may not continue beyond 2010. Would all EU characters need to find their way into a coveted slot in an EU wave in the basic line, or are there other possibilities that you could see working to keep a steady flow of all new EU figures in the mix? As you know, there are still many prominent characters out there that have not been honored with a figure, like Zayne Carrick & Marn "Gryph" Hierogryph (KOTOR), Finn Galfridian and Jedi Master Luke Skywalker (Invasion), Dass Jennir (Dark Times), and Celeste Morne (Vector). Most of these are still at the height of their popularity. Without comic packs, would these characters become long shots to ever be included in the basic line, or do you think you could find a way to fit them in somewhere else?

ANSWER:  We can confirm that the Comic Pack, as a mainline SKU, will not continue past Spring 2010 at this point. There are select Comic Packs slated for exclusives, though, so the format is not completely dead. Beyond the Comic Packs, occasional exclusives are the only hope for EU figures until they find their way back into the mainline. After the last wave of Legacy/Droid Factory, set for approximately February, there are no more EU figures slotted for the mainline basic figure wave until Fall 2011, at the earliest. It will be a bit of dry spell while we focus on the films for a while, but there will be some excellent exclusives coming out (like the Toys 'R Us The Force Unleashed packs) that should held cover the gap. Some of the characters you mention, like Zayne, do stand a chance of coming out someday. Others, like Celeste Mourne, are unlikely ever to get made without a comic book to go with them. Hopefully Finn (and the rest of the new Jedi Order) are around for when we do get a chance to either relaunch Comic Packs or add more focus to the EU.

So this phrase: After the last wave of Legacy/Droid Factory, set for approximately February, there are no more EU figures slotted for the mainline basic figure wave until Fall 2011

Seems to indicate that the last Legacy Collection Wave will be the EU one. Perhaps it was a poor choice of wording, but I'm thinking that it will indeed be the last wave of the Legacy Collection/Build-A-Droid.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 18, 2009, 05:07 PM
Who the hell knows. They gave a lot of cryptic and confusing answers this week. does that mean that wave got pushed back too? They wonder why collectors are leaving: Droughts, gluts and broken promises.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 18, 2009, 09:09 PM
Who the hell knows. They gave a lot of cryptic and confusing answers this week. does that mean that wave got pushed back too? They wonder why collectors are leaving: Droughts, gluts and broken promises.

Agreed, it's not like we don't have a slide that says this wave will be on the shelf in mid-December.....  :P

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2009/Hasbro/2009_Presentation/69.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 18, 2009, 10:43 PM
Sad, isn't it? Sometimes Hasbro wonders why they're losing so many sales, but it's also because they're failing the collecting community that's supported them so long.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth Broem on November 19, 2009, 09:15 AM
All of a sudden they are not excited about the EU anymore.  I guess because of the comic sales and the supposedly incredible sales of the Clone Wars stuff?  At least with this wave people actually know who some of these characters are.  Plus they have key names like Solo.  I am not not a big comic book reader but even I have heard of those Solo kids the past 10 years probably.  Those two troopers look like could move pretty well.  K"Kruhk looks like a fun figure just to add to the collection.  I am not to sure how good or bad Shaak Ti will go over.  I mainly want to get the wave so I can get BG-J38 assembled.  Anyway it looks like a decent wave of EU figures. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 19, 2009, 09:27 AM
I'm not a fan of the EU, so this doesn't really bother me.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: jedi_master_sal on November 19, 2009, 11:28 AM
I'm not a fan of the EU, so this doesn't really bother me.

I'm not a HUGE fan of EU either. However the figures already announced I've been greatly looking forward to. Especially Delia Blue, Darth Nihl, and Jareal. All were slated to be in comic packs and now may not come out at all. I think that would be a missed/wasted opportunity for Hasbro. Jareal could possibly be used as a base figure for random female Jedi with a repaint and head swap.

Anyway, all I can say is that Hasbro is making it easier and easier for me every day to scale back on this line. I love SW and always will. I love collecting toys, but some of this BS just plain needs to stop. This year just proves how terrible of a job Hasbro has been handling the line. While we're getting some of the best made/sculpted figures ever, it's the timing of them hitting market in some cases, or the all too high pricepoints in other case, or the drought of product in others. Now killing off lines (comic) or sub-lines (EU)? Repacks to save money Hasbro have run their course of much of the stuff you're reissuing. We understand that EU is a niche market. Fine, then only make a few figures per year of that.

But PLEASE, do not show us this stuff in a finished state then pull it away from us. That's not just a tease, that's like a c0ck block. It's a bad business practice. You've even said it before that you don't like to show stuff until you know it's coming out. Well, we're holding you too this. You've shown it to us, so make it get to market. Otherwise, you're showing yourselves to be more full of hot air that the Goodyear blimp. And that's a lot of air to be sure...

Oh and one other thing, don't blame we collectors for the downturn in the line. We've stuck with you in many cases for a decade and a half (well since the line was Kenner in the mid 90's) and I'm not even going back to the vintage days. For some that's an over 30 year loyalty/investment/whatever you want to call it.

We are NOT the problem. So don't insult us by repeatedly saying it in one form or another. You don't think that could be yet another reason why people are dropping the line or scaling way back?

Okay, I'm done. Enough soap box for me today. I shouldn't get a headache from posting at a collecting site.  ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 19, 2009, 08:08 PM
I'm not a HUGE fan of EU either. However the figures already announced I've been greatly looking forward to. Especially Delia Blue, Darth Nihl, and Jareal. All were slated to be in comic packs and now may not come out at all.

Yep, Hasbro's said that they're planning to cancel the line after the Fall 2009 wave (Tholme, Exar Kun...), which is now slated for 2010)

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We can confirm that the Comic Pack, as a mainline SKU, will not continue past Spring 2010 at this point.

We all know Spring 2010 was supposed to bring the Nihl/Deliah wave. However, in another Q/A, they also said this:

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The comic packs have really been struggling lately, and right now we will be challenged to get to the 2010 packs that were shown at Comic Con.


So what is Hasbro really going to do? Will the EU Wave 13 be delayed also? Hopefully Hasbro doesn't pull any last-minute stunts here.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JediJman on November 19, 2009, 10:16 PM
Does anyone know off hand how many of the Fan's Choice figures were EU based?  I don't have the list handy, but it sure seems like demand is strong enough for non-movie figures to continue.

As for the comic packs, I agree with Sal that they have/had some pretty choice EU figures lined up.  If CPs will not continue as a mainline SKU, then how about these possibilities:

 - Convention exclusive (we already know a few others are slated for this, but there are multiple conventions per year)
 - Online Exclusive
 - Recarded as basic figures or multi-packs (not sure if they are already produced in CP packaging - I assume not)

Here's another idea for Hasbro if they are concerned about sales: How about working a buy rate strategy?  In my line of work, we typically break down sales into penetration or buy rate.  Penetration being the number of people who buy and buy rate being the amount purchased per person.  If you have ten people buy one item, that's no different than one person buying ten items, but you often have opportunity to grow with one or the other. 

If Hasbro is concerned about weak CP sales, then how about forcing a higher buy rate per consumer?  They could bundle pack two or three comic pack sets together (maybe a Wal-Mart Exclusive), so anyone that wants these is FORCED to buy a full set of 2 or 3 comic packs.  They may lose some casual buyers, but I bet they would easily make up for it in volume among the remaining buyers.  With many products, 80% of the volume comes from 20% of the "heavier buyers" anyway, and you probably would convert some of those light buyers into buying more than they would have with this strategy.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 20, 2009, 01:02 AM
Hmmm... sounds like a good idea, but I don't think Hasbro would do bundle packages, especially since CPs are already at a high price. Bundling them (with 2 CPs) would might as well be 1 BP. I do like the bundle idea, though.  ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JediJman on November 20, 2009, 09:44 AM
Hmmm... sounds like a good idea, but I don't think Hasbro would do bundle packages, especially since CPs are already at a high price. Bundling them (with 2 CPs) would might as well be 1 BP. I do like the bundle idea, though.  ;)

I'd definitely be okay with these in a Battle Pack format as well - just thinking that a "bundle" might be the easiest way to go if they are already set for comic pack packaging.  I don't know enough about their manufacturing process or what the status is on these to know cost implications of moving to some other package format, but I would totally be open to a bundle pack of some kind.  Even the existing comic pack package with a second top bubble for another set of figures would work okay for me. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 20, 2009, 07:10 PM
THE ALIEN BESPIN GUARD *WILL* BE RELEASED!  :D
Hasbro has confirmed to Galactichunter.com that Utris M'toc will indeed come in the EU Wave 13:

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Per Derryl Depriest (the guy in charge) at Hasbro, "Bespin Guard (Utris M’toc) *will* be coming out in the EU wave.".

Good news!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JediJman on November 20, 2009, 08:46 PM
Yay!  That's one down at least.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 21, 2009, 01:48 AM
Yep, glad it's coming. I was getting tired of all the figures Hasbro was axing from the line!  
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 21, 2009, 09:54 AM
Good. It better not mean that the 2nd scanning trooper is going bye-bye then.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: P-Siddy on November 21, 2009, 10:47 AM
Good. It better not mean that the 2nd scanning trooper is going bye-bye then.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: evenflow on November 22, 2009, 10:44 PM
So many more EU figures i want  :-[
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 23, 2009, 10:48 AM
THE ALIEN BESPIN GUARD *WILL* BE RELEASED!  :D
Hasbro has confirmed to Galactichunter.com that Utris M'toc will indeed come in the EU Wave 13:

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Per Derryl Depriest (the guy in charge) at Hasbro, "Bespin Guard (Utris M’toc) *will* be coming out in the EU wave.".

Good news!

Not to be a Debbie Downer - but Derryl Depriest also said that the clean shaven Hoth Rebel Trooper was going to be out in VERY limited quantities as the rest of the AOTC Wave cases shipped.

Three months later it turns out the clean shaven Hoth Rebel Trooper was never mass produced.

So as much as I too would love to get Utris M'toc, sometimes this guy doesn't know his ass from his elbow - and he "runs" the line!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 24, 2009, 09:08 AM
Having been in Derryl's position, I can see why he made the claim about the clean shaven Hoth trooper. The factory probably told him it was produced as planned, but it really wasn't.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on December 5, 2009, 04:29 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/10Hasbro_BGJ38ProtoLoose_TN.jpg) (http://www.JediDefender.com)
Clicky to check him out!

BG-J38 is looking pretty sharp to me.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 6, 2009, 01:51 AM
Where did this droid show up? I'm surprised to see a little bugger like him in Star Wars!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on December 6, 2009, 02:48 AM
Jabba's Palace in the background playing Pacman or something, but he's around.  There's a black one similar to him or EV-9D9 aboard the Death Star too, somewhere I think.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 6, 2009, 02:02 PM
Thanks! I'm gonna check out the ROTJ movie now for this little dude...
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 7, 2009, 09:17 AM
Jabba's Palace in the background playing Pacman or something, but he's around.  There's a black one similar to him or EV-9D9 aboard the Death Star too, somewhere I think.

Isn't it weird that for Fodder waves we tend to get EU droids and for the EU wave we get a fodder droid?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2009, 07:37 PM
I'm not sure I get what you mean Anton...    ???  I think I'm just not reading you right is all, can you clarify?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 8, 2009, 07:39 AM
I think I understand what Anton is saying, I was wondering the same thing - it's odd that with the ROTS wave we get a B-A-D like the YVH-1 which is an EU creation, while with the actual EU wave, we get a droid that's actually in the background in ROTJ.

I would have thought that Hasbro would have tried to keep the theme of the wave going on into the B-A-Ds, but from the very beginning, that has not been the case. In fact when you think about it, we've probably gotten more EU droids out of the B-A-D concept then we would have through individually carded releases or EU comic packs (if those kept going).
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JediJman on December 8, 2009, 08:33 AM
Well, from a marketing perspective, it makes sense to mix them up.  If you don't normally buy EU, as some here have suggested, then you get an EU BAF with an OTC wave as an intro to the EU world.  Later on, there's a wave of EU figures that you might not buy all (or any) of, but since the BAD is not EU, you might be more incented to get the whole wave.  :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 8, 2009, 09:23 AM
Exactly what I was saying Pete. Thanks. Sorry for being obtuse.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2009, 03:24 PM
I gotcha now, sorry.

I agree with Jman's point too, about mixing them up...  Hasbro's pushing the that BGJ38 as a movie character in a wave of figures people may not want all of them because EU's so picky with most.  It makes sense in that regard.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 9, 2009, 12:21 AM
I too agree - Jman's point is spot on - I hadn't really thought about it from that point of view before.

For me it's easy to overlook the possibility that some people might not even be interested in this wave -- for me it's not whether or not I'm going to get a figure in this wave, it's HOW MANY of each figure in this wave do I want to buy above and beyond my complete set MOC and my complete open set.  ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 9, 2009, 06:01 PM
You have a good point, Anton.

However, I think this may be Hasbro's way of trying to lure in the old-school collectors to buy the whole EU wave in order to get the classic ROTJ droid. It's almost a set-up, if anything.  :-X
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 10, 2009, 12:27 AM
I am really excited about this wave, great character choices all around including the BAD. I think this will be the rarest wave of Legacy. I see this as the TAC Wave 5 of Legacy. I think this wave will have a shorter run like the AOTC wave given the possible package update and the slowdown of EU in general.

I really hope etailers get this in by months end I want that K'Kruk bad.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 10, 2009, 09:41 AM
You have a good point, Anton.

However, I think this may be Hasbro's way of trying to lure in the old-school collectors to buy the whole EU wave in order to get the classic ROTJ droid. It's almost a set-up, if anything.  :-X

That thought crossed my mind. If I was an OT completist guy, I'd have to buy that set.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on December 16, 2009, 12:13 PM
more proof that Utris the Bespin Guard is hopefully coming:

http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-legacy-tlc-WING-GUARD-UTRIS-MTOC-Rare_W0QQitemZ390132205544QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad5b107e8
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 17, 2009, 12:06 AM
Yakface.com posted pictures of the finalized Shaak Ti sculpt.

Click me! (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=88&p=77035#p77035)

Oh. My. Gosh.  :o Beautiful sculpt, amazing, Hasbro! A 100% improvement over the ROTS sculpt! Now Hasbro can maybe update her figure from the movie(?)!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: evenflow on December 17, 2009, 02:09 PM
Great looking figure!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on December 17, 2009, 05:31 PM
Very cool. I wish we could have a better Maris Brood figure to go along with it.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 17, 2009, 10:06 PM
I wish we could have a better Maris Brood figure to go along with it.

I know, huh? Maybe a new SA Maris (that can BETTER hold her lightsabers!) will be included in the upcoming Toys'R'Us multipacks. Hopefully.  ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on December 18, 2009, 10:07 AM
Yes, hopefully. I really did enjoy the Force Unleashed game, even more than I expected I would. I think the storyline was far better than most of the EU out there.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 18, 2009, 10:37 AM
The Maris may not have been a good fig, but with how few EU figs we get I'd much rather have something I've never got before.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JediJman on December 18, 2009, 11:05 AM
My Maris holds her sabers just fine.   ???

I'm with Nick - I'll take something new (EU, background characters, whatever) over crap like the Han in Stormtrooper vest or the 30th version of Jedi Luke any day of the week (yes I bought two of the latest one, so sue me).  I know there is demand for core characters and am not arguing that, but there is ALSO demand for new stuff among a lot of collectors.  And frankly, if there are no more movies coming, then EU and Clone Wars are the best opportunity to keep the SW line alive because they tie into more current media.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on December 25, 2009, 03:11 AM
Wow, literally just in time for Christmas...

Loose pics of the Expanded Universe wave! :)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Leg_JacenSoloLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Leg_JainaSoloLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Leg_SpacetrooperLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Leg_Ph1DarktrooperLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Leg_KKruhkLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Leg_BespinWingGuardVariantLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Leg_BADBGJ38Loose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1261728243,45434,)
Clicky to check them out!

So Shaak Ti's been out there a while and now the rest are here to check out.  I like the whole wave mostly...  I ponder if Jacen Solo's really short, which I don't think his character is intended to be but it appears to re-use some Luke Bespin bits...  So the figure will be I think.

Also I hate the Spacetrooper design from the comics, so I don't care for that figure particularly then either.

Love the Darktrooper, which was freakish in the game and sort of scared you, and that looks pretty fantastic as far as a duplication of the game's design.  K'Kruhk is awesome looking and big, so I dig that as well.  I like the BAD and Variant Bespin Guard a lot as well, and Shaak Ti of course.  Jaina's ok...  Jacen will suffice and since I'm not into NJO much anyway that's fine.  Ultimately the Spacey's the only one I'm just indifferent on then and it's not the figure's fault.  The figure looks amazing, and it's just the design that blows chunks.

Good wave...  Far superior to the ROTS wave for sure, and that's a positive.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Darby on December 25, 2009, 12:23 PM
I'm not a big EU person, but I've been looking forward to K'Kruhk for a while.  He's amazing.  The Spacetrooper is, too.  I'm the opposite of you, Jesse.  The Darktrooper looks really blah to me and the Spacetrooper is all kinds of cool.  I suppose if I ever played the game, it might make me more interested.  Overall, the figs are good.  I'll be really happy to get the BAD.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Force Guy on December 25, 2009, 01:01 PM
The entire wave is a big pass for me. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 25, 2009, 02:02 PM
This wave came out great! I already got Shaak Ti and I was very impressed. Even if you do no care for EU the Jaina can make a great generic Jedi. Interesting how Hasbro used Stass Allie's Arms and legs. they are getting better at reusing their tools. K'Kruck and Jaina are by far my favorites. This is a good way to end Legacy. If next years few movie focused choices look this good I will be happy.

Even if you hate the character or design they nailed them really good.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on December 25, 2009, 02:55 PM
I'm not a big EU person, but I've been looking forward to K'Kruhk for a while.  He's amazing.  The Spacetrooper is, too.  I'm the opposite of you, Jesse.  The Darktrooper looks really blah to me and the Spacetrooper is all kinds of cool.  I suppose if I ever played the game, it might make me more interested.  Overall, the figs are good.  I'll be really happy to get the BAD.

My reasoning on the Spacetrooper is that there's a more believable (bulky, larger, etc.) design for it that was put out first and then the comic artists didn't even bother with it.  It's in more EU than the Thrawn Trilogy Comic though and so I would've liked Hasbro to have gone with that over this, but it's really big.  I didn't like the original for the same reason.

The Darktroopers are just part of the game, so yeah without playing it they're tough to describe as why they look good or the positives and things...  THey've even been tied to the PT a lot now, as far as their evolution, which I find interesting how EU writers tried to do that.

The Spacetrooper's just a design I don't care for because there's a better one out there...  I didn't expect Hasbro to do any differently though as they tend to go with comic designs over other stuff.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 25, 2009, 04:53 PM
Jesse - are you talking about this design?

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/4/4b/ZeroG-TTS.png/619px-ZeroG-TTS.png)

To be honest, you could almost see Hasbro releasing this as well but using the Serpent Armor toy from GI Joe as a starting point. Or even a customizer using that toy as a starting point.

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jesse James on December 28, 2009, 02:30 AM
Yes.  There's a great color cut-away of it as well and shows ingress/egress with an average sized human and how they'd jump in the suit.

It's something on my "to-do" list when Hasbro's killed the line (which could happen sooner than later if these huge assed gaps keep up in getting new stuff all year long, haha).

WEG designed it originally, and it's great.  The SNAKE armor is a good analogy too...  The suit doesn't really come apart like that "in reality", but it'd be a cool way to get it done if Hasbro were to do it.  I'm pretty sure they won't though.  Hey, you never know though right?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: tmanthegreat on December 28, 2009, 02:23 PM
Something like that Zero-G Stormtrooper suit pictured above was included in the "X-Wing Alliance" simulator game from 10 years ago.  In the game they were something more of a minnature starfighter used for boarding operations, etc.  they They were really annoying little things, which although slow, were hard to hit and quite effective when used en masse.  In the game they had the lazers and could carry a concussion missile for added firepower.  I rather like the Zero G trooper shown in the above EU figure wave, but like Jesse noted, would rather have something bulkier like that pictured above.  Guess I should track down some GI Joe Serpent armor ;) 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 28, 2009, 04:02 PM
Jesse - are you talking about this design?

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/4/4b/ZeroG-TTS.png/619px-ZeroG-TTS.png)

To be honest, you could almost see Hasbro releasing this as well but using the Serpent Armor toy from GI Joe as a starting point. Or even a customizer using that toy as a starting point.



Looks like a Kubrick!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Brian on December 29, 2009, 01:07 PM
I'm not a big EU person, but I've been looking forward to K'Kruhk for a while.  He's amazing.  The Spacetrooper is, too.  I'm the opposite of you, Jesse.  The Darktrooper looks really blah to me and the Spacetrooper is all kinds of cool.  I suppose if I ever played the game, it might make me more interested.  Overall, the figs are good.  I'll be really happy to get the BAD.

I'm in the same boat.  I'm not a big EU person really (read the Thrawn Trilogy and some OT related books, and a few comics like Legacy for awhile), but I've really been looking forward to K'Kruhk for awhile as well.  The rest of the wave looks pretty nice to me too (I also like the Spacetrooper), and I hope it isn't too bad to find.  I took it off of preorder to chill on the credit card use for awhile, and hopefully the one good thing with the upcoming lull is that we'll see good supplies of both this and the previous Empire Strikes Back wave.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 29, 2009, 01:53 PM
Hopefully they re-release K'Khruck in maybe a BP sometime down the road so that his big handy-dandy hat come along!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: commandernarra on December 29, 2009, 09:10 PM
Got these today, 2 of each. Wonderful choices(Bit so-so on the Spacetrooper) and really great use of parts and spectacular paint jobs, really good. Poped a second Jaina head on a female X-Winger, so got that covered. Used the spare Jacen body with Comic Lumiya Lukes head for a different outfit. A spare Whipid and Togruta won't go astray either. :)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: McMetal on December 30, 2009, 11:57 AM
Got these today, 2 of each. Wonderful choices(Bit so-so on the Spacetrooper) and really great use of parts and spectacular paint jobs, really good. Poped a second Jaina head on a female X-Winger, so got that covered. Used the spare Jacen body with Comic Lumiya Lukes head for a different outfit. A spare Whipid and Togruta won't go astray either. :)

Just to clarify, so my blood pressure won't skyrocket, you mean you got these IN THE MAIL today, right? You didn't just walk into Walmart and see them on the pegs or anything did you?

Did you? :o
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: P-Siddy on December 30, 2009, 12:49 PM
That would be so bad if he did.... have yet to see the ESB wave (probably like most people here).
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe (Spring 2010)
Post by: commandernarra on December 30, 2009, 09:24 PM
Got these today, 2 of each. Wonderful choices(Bit so-so on the Spacetrooper) and really great use of parts and spectacular paint jobs, really good. Poped a second Jaina head on a female X-Winger, so got that covered. Used the spare Jacen body with Comic Lumiya Lukes head for a different outfit. A spare Whipid and Togruta won't go astray either. :)

Just to clarify, so my blood pressure won't skyrocket, you mean you got these IN THE MAIL today, right? You didn't just walk into Walmart and see them on the pegs or anything did you?

Did you? :o
No, sorry to confuse, but these are available at an online store in Australia. Had them on preorder and got a shipping notice last week. I even wrote to them to check it was this wave, and obviously it was. A few Aussie collectors have gotten these. This despite the fact that retail stores are only just getting TPM  ??? Normal retail is way dead over here.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 31, 2009, 01:30 AM
Whew, a lotta people are getting their hands on this wave already some way or another!

I feel left out...  >:(
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JediJman on December 31, 2009, 09:47 AM
Whew, a lotta people are getting their hands on this wave already some way or another!

I feel left out...  >:(

No worries - still a lot of us that haven't seen this wave at all.  I thought it wasn't due at retail until Feb/March, so you're definitely not behind.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 3, 2010, 12:09 AM
Rebelscum.com (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCfigures.asp) has featured the EU wave in their photo archive update - I thought I'd just make a heads-up for all those anticipating this wave ... these are some really slick-looking figures.:o
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 3, 2010, 03:30 PM
This wave is now a TRU/Online exclusive due to low Legacy sales. Glad I ordered two cases months ago. That really sucks and is really a sad state of the SW Union.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jeff on February 3, 2010, 03:37 PM
This wave is now a TRU/Online exclusive

Here's the Q&A for those not wanting to dig for it... (links, JOT, links! ;)):

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Legacy sales have been so far off the mark - and retails have enough inventory - that even the EU wave has become a Toys 'R Us exclusive in May, with some online retailers having access to the last of the run in June. Once we start fresh with Vintage, we will be able to manage the line to the new collector baseline and make tight releases to keep waves flowing regularly.

So, not only is it TRU exclusive, but it looks like it's been pushed back until May as well with online getting second dibbs in June.  That reads to me like it's not even a lock that on-line will get any cases if TRU moves enough of them...  :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jayson on February 3, 2010, 03:51 PM
So, not only is it TRU exclusive, but it looks like it's been pushed back until May as well with online getting second dibbs in June.  That reads to me like it's not even a lock that on-line will get any cases if TRU moves enough of them...  :-\

(http://jedijaybird.home.comcast.net/girl.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 3, 2010, 03:52 PM
Noted on the links!   ;D

These actually showed up carded in the US already. Alliance Collectibles has been seeling them for awhile. BBTS shows Feb but we shall see. I am sory I did not jump on Tungoris ebay sales I only have Shaak Ti right now.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2010, 03:55 PM
Wow, what a cluster****. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 3, 2010, 03:55 PM
This is a huge kick in the nuts!!!!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 3, 2010, 05:08 PM
Quote
Legacy sales have been so far off the mark - and retails have enough inventory - that even the EU wave has become a Toys 'R Us exclusive in May, with some online retailers having access to the last of the run in June. Once we start fresh with Vintage, we will be able to manage the line to the new collector baseline and make tight releases to keep waves flowing regularly.

Typical Hasbro these days.

The argument can be made that sales of Legacy were not as strong because they have the same SKU as Legends and Legends doesn't sell anywhere near as well as Legacy. But since Hasbro could save money with already tooled figures, they wanted to pack them in Legacy cases.

I really don't see this as the fault of the collector. We bought up Legacy like it's going out of style...er wait, is it? I rarely saw figures peg for any length of time. Heck even the pink chick from the cantina whom I thought would pegwarm isn't found too often and certainly not in pegwarming numbers like we've seen figures form past years.

I really hope with  new SKU for the Vintage line Hasbro will see the error of their ways. Taking away the BaD part is going to hurt some sales, but only packing vintage together and not mixing them with Legends is really going to tell the tale.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jayson on February 3, 2010, 05:25 PM
Legacy and Legends had separate SKUs
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Diddly on February 3, 2010, 05:36 PM
They're treating us like Canadians now! ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on February 3, 2010, 05:46 PM
So, not only is it TRU exclusive, but it looks like it's been pushed back until May as well with online getting second dibbs in June.  That reads to me like it's not even a lock that on-line will get any cases if TRU moves enough of them...  :-\

Things are looking hopeful on this front.  Standby...
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jeff on February 3, 2010, 08:02 PM
So, not only is it TRU exclusive, but it looks like it's been pushed back until May as well with online getting second dibbs in June.  That reads to me like it's not even a lock that on-line will get any cases if TRU moves enough of them...  :-\

Things are looking hopeful on this front.  Standby...

Considering I've had a case of Wave 13 on pre-order with EE for months now, I'll be happy if you guys do get them.  :)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 3, 2010, 08:43 PM
Considering I've had a case of Wave 13 on pre-order with EE for months now, I'll be happy if you guys do get them.  :)

Seriously, I ordered two of these back in August.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 4, 2010, 01:07 AM
Well for me, this is a serious kick in the nuts.

The TRU near where I work has not received a single Red/White Legacy Collection figure case.

NOT ONE.

I'm serious. It's not a question of me missing it or anything - they have received NOTHING.

And I know why - according to their inventory computer they have 48 pieces of the Legacy SKU in stock.

So basically, because their system says they have four cases worth still unsold, they are not being shipped anymore. The problem is that they can't find those 48 figures ANYWHERE in the store.

The last update I got from the employees on this was that the district management had finally relented and they were going to allow the count to be manually adjusted to zero pieces in stock, but apparently doing that is as difficult as getting the world to agree to add a fifth gospel to the New Testament of the Bible.

So needless to say, unless the January inventory FINALLY breaks the strangle-hold the inventory computer has had on this store, I will probably NEVER see the EU wave.

Also - why the hell aren't Target and/or WalMart getting this wave? Is it because those stores have all their pegs mish-mashed together and to them a figure is a figure is a figure and their lazy employees keep indicating they have plenty of Legacy in stock yet the pegs are clogged with Legends and Clone Wars? Most of my local WMs have less than one case worth of Legacy figures on the pegs. Yet, all of the Legacy collection pegs are filled to the brim.

They REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY need to stop with the multiple SKUs bull**** if the "collector dollars have left", get their asses onto that 6 - 8 week shipping schedule they say they want and alternately ship waves of animated and realistic figures under a single SKU.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 4, 2010, 08:59 AM
I am right there with Pete above me, I think I have seen one case at of the new Legacy carded figures at my local TRU.

what a kick in the nuts indeed....

please let these be available on HTS...
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 4, 2010, 09:13 AM
I started thinking about this all last night. I feel bad for those who don't have a TRU by them. I've got several within a 15 mile radius.

In the meantime, with Hasbro stating this wave won't be available at retail (TRU) until May, we've got plenty of time to catch up on any of the rest of the stuff. I'm not too far behind just needing the Chewie from the ANH wave-with orange droid part, and all of the ESB wave. Still, that gives me about 3 months to find it. I'll be on the lookout for the EU wave and will help out where I can for those figures.

I'll be very glad when the Vintage line comes. Our understanding is that the Vintage cardback will not just be different but significantly different than the Legends and/or CW line. This really should help. At the least it's a great visual for when we need to ask store clerks about figures. We can easily show them the difference. If they don't "get it" at that point, they are either "intellectually challenged" or playing a game at our expense. (Which I wouldn't put past some of them.)

If we as collectors start asking for that Vintage style over and over again, stores are going to get the point that they need to order more of that stuff.  Well, at least we can hope so anyway.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 4, 2010, 09:17 AM
What a drag. At least when they hit, we only have to go to one store to look.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 4, 2010, 09:46 AM
What a drag. At least when they hit, we only have to go to one store to look.

TRU dat...lol
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: McMetal on February 4, 2010, 10:30 AM
Ouch! How does Hasbro's ass taste, Legacy Fan? 

What a slap in the face, or kick to the crotch if you prefer. They really stuck it in and broke it off with that move.

I have NEVER seen a Legacy figure from the TPM Wave or beyond at any local TRU here. So I weep for the fans looking for them around here.

On the bright side, it's only 3 months now til May. That's the same lag between waves we saw between the most recent TCW waves (Padme-->Aayla). It's not SO terrible.  ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 4, 2010, 10:37 AM
since Hasbro is all about changing things at the moment, would they be kind enough to change the case assormtent for this wave?  I can't buy a case of 12 figures that only includes 6-7 figures I want and spend $100 - I just don't do that.

So Hasbro, while you are changing things, can you please take out all the repack figures in this current assortment and replace them with repacked army building figures.  Then I can swallow this horsepill of horse****.

No, I really don't expect this to happen.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 4, 2010, 02:30 PM
Well, BBTS have marked my 9/2 order for x2 Cases of the EU Wave as June Delivery.

That really sucks, I would have so jumped on the Tungori auctions. I was really looking forward to these.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jeff on February 4, 2010, 03:21 PM
Well, BBTS have marked my 9/2 order for x2 Cases of the EU Wave as June Delivery.

Not a surprise, but ditto on my EE order - June 2010.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Scott on February 5, 2010, 07:56 PM
So, not only is it TRU exclusive, but it looks like it's been pushed back until May as well with online getting second dibbs in June.  That reads to me like it's not even a lock that on-line will get any cases if TRU moves enough of them...  :-\

Things are looking hopeful on this front.  Standby...

Adam...being as close to ordering, selling, sales etc...has EE Legacy #'s fallen as dramatically as the supposed drop at retail Hasbro is saying?  If you can't answer I understand, but I am curious
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth Broem on February 6, 2010, 12:11 AM
The one B-A-D figure I really want is probably going to be the biggest pain in the ass to get.  LOL!  I just hope they will be all available online.  I don't even want about half the figures in this wave.  Grrrrr!!  Wow, I guess they are not kidding about Legacy selling badly.  It's odd to me because they seem to move as much as any other toyline in the toy aisle.  Actually a little bit better.  Then again I live near Phx and there are more people to move figures through. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 6, 2010, 04:00 AM
Okay. I am going to be really, really calm right now. >:( I just read that this wave will be an exclusive... okay...

THANKS FOR NOTHING, HASBRO! It was Hasbro, NOT the collectors, that screwed themselves over w/ TLC. With the severe state that realistic figures are in right now, Hasbro really skimped on core characters in favor of lesser characters. Organas? Yarna (I'm sorry to all those who wanted this figure, but it really killed TLC line)? Stass Allie? Another less-than-stormtrooper-disguised Han Solo?

In a time when really no one is buying, Hasbro should have made more interesting character choices. Once the reboot in interest had kicked off, THEN they should have made the lesser choices. Yes, I respect all those who want Cantina characters, Jabba's Palace characters, and all those... but what is seen pegwarming retailers is proof that those characters are just REALLY not that in demand right now! Instead of making Clegg Holdfast, they should have made Darth Maul! Instead of the Organas, maybe Senate Duel Palpatine and Yoda. HASBRO NEEDS TO WIN OVER THE COLLECTORS!

Collectors want certain time-specific characters. But once those figures get out on the pegs, they're just selling!

I'm sorry to all those who are very much into the subtle characters, but this was my out-right opinion. But  Hasbro's killing themselves and blaming it on the collectors.

 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JediJman on February 6, 2010, 10:09 AM
Well, I can't argue with that craptastic Han Semi-Trooper.  Man, whoever okay'd that figure ought to get themselves into rehab immediately.  Though to be fair, I'm not seeing that figure warm pegs in my parts because the entire wave is tough to find. 

There's two issues here for me on wave 13 and the news surrounding it:

#1 - the distribution system is all messed up right now.  It has been through most of the Legacy wave.  I don't know if that's bad demand planning on Hasbro's part or a decline in collecting due to character choices (or more likely prices forcing many to not army build or stop collecting carded).  I'd argue that some of their assortment choices are questionable as well.  All that said, if they can't get it out to retail for some reason, then I'm glad there is at least some other plan for it, though even there they could have made it an online exclusive or sold it on their site for those of us that have few opportunities with TRU.  That may still happen from what I hear, so I'm going to go glass is half full and be happy they are at least still coming in the next few months.

#2 - I am really really REALLY tired of the blame game on collectors.  Maybe its just worded poorly, but for me it is clearly the higher pricing and poor distribution (no figs for 5 months, then 3 waves at once) that has hurt the line.  Maybe collectors have bought less and that has hurt the distribution, but when they move the figs up to $8 a pop, there's going to be a decline in sales and they should have anticipated that.  I'm assuming someone at Hasbro has taken an Econ 101 class.  All that aside, it is just plain dumb to BLAME your customer for your sales issues.  How about just saying that sales were not as strong as anticipated or we are having trouble moving some of the figures in the line?  I don't know of too many companies that see a good result from telling their customers that they're wrong.

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 6, 2010, 11:12 AM
How dare those collectors not but items we don't put on pegs/shelves and then complain.

Seriously, this has been the worst distribution year 'I've ever seen!  I never saw quite a few waves at retail as well as the Katarn/Vong, Krayt/Dare Luke/Lumiya comic packs!  I'm not saying I would've bought everything (my collecting habits have changed now that I have a collection room that is full), but I certainly would've bought more than I did!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: EpicGon on February 7, 2010, 10:56 AM
The Dark Trooper phase 1 is a way to mesure the demand of the build a droid dark trooper (purge trooper) so hope this figure would come in some wave of the new vintage collection.

Bg J38 could be re released as a saga legend, perhaps with a computer similar to that of the ugnaughts.

Finally I hope to see more bespin guards, jacket opened, closed with different headsculpts in the new vintage line.

Time to evolve Hasbro (you´re doing pretty well)

Funny life is very challenging :)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darby on February 7, 2010, 02:47 PM
I just went ahead and ordered the BAD from this wave from overseas, since he was all I really wanted.  I'll pick up K'ruhk when he shows up, but it wasn't worth the time or effort for me to track them all down.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: efranks on February 8, 2010, 10:18 AM
In a time when really no one is buying, Hasbro should have made more interesting character choices. Once the reboot in interest had kicked off, THEN they should have made the lesser choices.

the problem with that argument is that the two waves that killed the TLC line were planned out sometime in late 2006/early 2007, long before the big retail crash that left the figures in those waves wallowing on the pegs.

Where Hasbro didn't react fast enough to avoid the problem is in the recall of the figures from those two waves from retail.  I could have told Hasbro in May of 2009 what figures they needed to pull from retail to break the automated computer reordering systems free.  It didn't happen till August, after a lot of stores had missed out, or gotten low orders, of 4 full waves!

The other part of the problem with your arugment is that while figures of Luke, Han, Chewy, Vader, Anakin, the Droids (sometimes) and Obi-Wan sell, collectors don't always want them.  Other than a couple definitive versions of Luke and Han, I probably don't have to buy another figure of those characters ever again.  So Hasbro can load down waves of figures with main characters, which, while they may sell to kids, casual collectors and parents buying gifts, it's the obscure characters that the collectors are mainly looking for at this point...and they're the crowd that Hasbro is saying has left them.

The characters that the kids and parents buy are selling fine in the Saga Legends line.  I've been to stores outside my area that are choking on Saga Legends, but for some reason, they fly out of the stores in my relatively small town.  I have to assume that these do sell in other stores as well, but one difference is that the pipeline for SL seems to be free flowing since it's the same set of 19 characters rotating through cases and not a new case of new characters every few weeks. 

As far as Target goes, it's also now my understanding that Target's computer reordering system may not generate a re-order of a SKU if there are enough pieces in inventory for there to be at least one (in this case) figure on each peg designated for.  In other words, if the store has 4 pegs for TLC and there are 4 figures, one for each peg, the computer will not order more.  The flow of toys to my store seems to back that up.  When there were three Stass Allie and one Breha on the pegs here back in late September I thought we'd get new stock.  Didn't.  One Stass Allie sold and a week later we had a new case of figures on the pegs.  That case sold within two days and we got a restock.  Unfortunately, the restock was a case of 2008 Wave 4 R2, which included another Stass Allie, Bail and Breha.  Four more cases of that same wave later and we now have 6 of each, Bail, Breha and Stass, and we've stopped getting new stock, again.

   E...
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 23, 2010, 11:57 AM
yakface asked a question in the QnA about the amount of figures produced from this wave but I am blocked from their site at work.  Can anyone give me the goods on that answer?  I am hoping it isn't bad news because my TRU sucks and it would be less likely for me to ever see them.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JediJman on February 23, 2010, 12:15 PM
Courtesy of Jayson/Yakface:

Q2: There are bound to be several questions asked regarding the shocker of the last Legacy EU wave (wave 13) being set as a Toys"R"Us / online exclusve. With that troublesome news, what can be said about the production run for those figures. Were they produced in the same volume as prior waves or was there a shorter production run done to avoid costly over-stock now that the TLC line is no more?

A2: Most all of the red/white Legacy Droid Factory waves have been produced in lower production volumes than in previous years in order to make sure that figures don't slow up and we can bring the next waves in. Still, despite the lower production, we have still had difficulties with getting waves to flow evenly. The EU wave will be produced in a volume similar to that of the EpII wave that came out at the end of the blue/white Legacy Droid Factory run last Spring, making it the red/white wave with the shortest production run.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 23, 2010, 12:22 PM
while I was able to get th AOTC wave with no issue - that news is still crap-tastic

thanks JediJman for passing the news along to me.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on February 23, 2010, 02:03 PM
Adam...being as close to ordering, selling, sales etc...has EE Legacy #'s fallen as dramatically as the supposed drop at retail Hasbro is saying?  If you can't answer I understand, but I am curious

I don't think I can discuss our internal numbers but what I'm seeing externally seems to indicate this is pretty close to the mark.   Besides, reality here is what Hasbro wants it to be.  If there's a target number they want to hit, whatever it is that might be a huge success for us might not be worth Hasbro's while if the toymaker can't replicate it at Wal-Mart, Target, and Toys "R" Us.

...personally I'm kinda surprised the "greatest hits/refresh" figures aren't generally more things like Darth Vader.  Because you know, those tend to sell to pretty much anybody and not just adult collectors like, let's say, a repackaged Padme.  And I saw a loooooot of leftover wave 9 on my last multi-state toy hunting safari.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: speedermike on February 26, 2010, 11:04 AM
Personally, "Greatest Hit/Legacy" Figurs should onlu be figures Mom and Dad recognize...

Vader
Luke Tatooine
Yoda
Chewie
R2
Obi-Wan (E3)
Anikin (E3)
Darth Maul

And maybe...
Stormtrooper
Boba Fett
Jango Fett
Clone E3
Grevious

That's it. 

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darby on February 26, 2010, 10:58 PM
I got the BAD from this wave from overseas today, and it's awesome.  Glad I didn't have to track down the figures for it.  The only drawback is the legs.  He will have difficulty standing due to general gumminess and articulation in his 'ankles' which are at an odd angle.

Also got the CV vintage 'Zuckuss'.  Awesome.   :)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 28, 2010, 01:29 AM
I was thinking back to SDCC 2009 and it's quite pathetic to see that almost 50% of what Hasbro had shown as a 2010 sneak has been canceled/failed - Legacy Wave 13, Darth Nihl/Jarael Comic Pack sets....
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: jedipurge on March 9, 2010, 08:09 PM
Courtesy of Jayson/Yakface:

Q2: There are bound to be several questions asked regarding the shocker of the last Legacy EU wave (wave 13) being set as a Toys"R"Us / online exclusve. With that troublesome news, what can be said about the production run for those figures. Were they produced in the same volume as prior waves or was there a shorter production run done to avoid costly over-stock now that the TLC line is no more?

A2: Most all of the red/white Legacy Droid Factory waves have been produced in lower production volumes than in previous years in order to make sure that figures don't slow up and we can bring the next waves in. Still, despite the lower production, we have still had difficulties with getting waves to flow evenly. The EU wave will be produced in a volume similar to that of the EpII wave that came out at the end of the blue/white Legacy Droid Factory run last Spring, making it the red/white wave with the shortest production run.

While the only good news about this is that while i NEVER saw AOTC wave in stores the good thing is that at least this wave will be condensed to 1 store and not spread out to the 3 major stores, so we MIGHT actually see descent numbers of these in TRU.  But I won't be holding my breath waiting for sales.  I'll grab them when I see them. 

Really wanted the Imp Tech from this wave cuz of the neater looking container, had hoped to army build that but it looks like not.  Good thing Wally has put figs on sale for $6 already got 3 techs for that price.

Hope I can score more then 1 Spacetrooper as well.  Will be using that one as grunt to the DK trooper.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2010, 08:31 PM
Well you're in luck...  sort of...

because the 2nd Imp Tech isn't going to be in that wave with the other container.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: jedipurge on March 12, 2010, 06:25 PM
Well you're in luck...  sort of...

because the 2nd Imp Tech isn't going to be in that wave with the other container.

WTH are you kidding me?  thot that was the repack along w/ROTJ sucky Luke whatever repacks, now it's just the EU wave all by its lonesome?  Hadn't heard that one so thanx, kinda,  Jesse.  Here's to hoping he'll be in ANH Kenner style wave along with the DS trooper grey version they've talked about.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jesse James on March 13, 2010, 01:14 AM
The 2nd Scanner Tech (which is just a different box part Ig uess, not a different figure at all) is like the HOth Rebel variant...  Fell through.  There may be a repacked ANH Wave tech, but I don't believe the 2nd box variation has found a home yet, according to Hasbro.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Rob on March 28, 2010, 03:07 PM
When is this wave supposed to show up?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jeff on March 28, 2010, 05:44 PM
May for TRU, June for EE/online is the current estimate from Hasbro.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Rob on March 28, 2010, 09:56 PM
Thanks.  When things slow down I pay (even) less attention (as I'm sure you've noticed) and was starting to worry that I'd missed these.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 13, 2010, 05:10 PM
Well - these have already started to hit - there are pictures on anotheR Site's forums, one picture is of the back of the Darth Maul and Obi-Wan figures w/the B-A-D parts from the EU wave droid...

Time to start hunting!!!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jayson on April 14, 2010, 02:18 PM
Picked up this wave from my local TRU during lunch today. All are damn nice and a great way to go out on the Legacy basic figure line.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2767/4520656965_26184bf1cd.jpg)

According to the shipping case, it looks like there might be a designated endcap on 5/1 so hopefully more stores will be getting these new cases to fill them out.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4521294250_279ebe7c71_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Nicklab on April 14, 2010, 03:02 PM
Good scoop Jayson!  It's nice to know that collectors can (somewhat) focus their efforts and hit the stores on May 1st.  Provided of course that they don't sell out in the next two weeks, of course.  It stinks when a basic figure wave winds up being exclusive to a single retailer.  But a piece of info like this can at least give collectors a better shot at getting a wave that's going to be a bit more scarce than usual.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 14, 2010, 05:46 PM
Hey Jayson - did you have to ask for the case to be brought out or was it sitting on the floor waiting to be stocked?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jayson on April 14, 2010, 05:48 PM
Hey Jayson - did you have to ask for the case to be brought out or was it sitting on the floor waiting to be stocked?

It was a sealed case in the employee's hands waiting to be put on the pegs.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Captain Piet on April 14, 2010, 07:04 PM
Hey Jayson - did you have to ask for the case to be brought out or was it sitting on the floor waiting to be stocked?

It was a sealed case in the employee's hands waiting to be put on the pegs.

Wow! Not where Pete and I attempt to find figures. :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 14, 2010, 09:06 PM
Seriously!

Thanks for the info Jayson, but it sounds to me like you live in some nirvana-world where stores are stocked by employees in the middle of the day!

Heh heh..   :P
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 14, 2010, 09:25 PM
Sounds like I may have a pretty decent chance of getting this at retail...
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jayson on April 14, 2010, 09:31 PM
No problem, glad to help. If you need it, here is the pertinent info from the side of the case to track down stock at your store:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2725/4521454685_8eae2155cd.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 14, 2010, 09:36 PM
I saw the R2-D2 from this wave on the pegs....none of the others though.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 15, 2010, 10:42 AM
Great new on the 5/1 front. Maybe it'll quell all the typical and stupid rumors that each store is only getting one case.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Master_Phruby on April 16, 2010, 03:36 PM
I saw something weird at Tustin TRU. They had an empty encap setup that said "Reserve your collectible figure here". It seems you have to take a ticket to the cash register to get your "collectible figure". I know that store is plagued with scalpers but isn't that a little extreem?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 16, 2010, 03:41 PM
Specifically about the EU wave of SW? Or was it just an empty endcap with that sign? I'm confused and a little worried.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: iFett on April 16, 2010, 03:43 PM
Doesn't TRU have some type of preorder thing in store now?  Maybe it's that?  Or maybe I've been hearing things.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 16, 2010, 03:45 PM
Doesn't TRU have some type of preorder thing in store now?  Maybe it's that?  Or maybe I've been hearing things.

I'm way out of the loop apparently. I just want to go in there some day and grab the figs and hand them some cash. My concern is getting higher that these are going to be impossible to find if I have to preorder them in the store.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jeff on April 16, 2010, 03:51 PM
That "reserve your collectible figure" policy has nothing to do with the EU wave - it is a TRU wide policy that has been running for a while now and mainly affects stuff inthe "collectible" aisle - McFarlane, NECA, Diamond Select, etc.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 16, 2010, 05:06 PM
That "reserve your collectible figure" policy has nothing to do with the EU wave - it is a TRU wide policy that has been running for a while now and mainly affects stuff inthe "collectible" aisle - McFarlane, NECA, Diamond Select, etc.

So what you're saying is don't freak out about every rumor/ post I read before knowing for sure what is up with it?  ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Master_Phruby on April 17, 2010, 07:56 PM
That "reserve your collectible figure" policy has nothing to do with the EU wave - it is a TRU wide policy that has been running for a while now and mainly affects stuff inthe "collectible" aisle - McFarlane, NECA, Diamond Select, etc.

Oh good. That sign made me worried.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 20, 2010, 02:50 AM
I know this may sound crazy, but hopefully Ross and all those other stores will eventually get leftovers of the EU wave. Has that been known to happen w/ exclusive assortments of basic figures? I've only heard of this happening so far w/ exclusive Evolutions sets and vehicles.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 20, 2010, 02:57 AM
I know this may sound crazy, but hopefully Ross and all those other stores will eventually get leftovers of the EU wave. Has that been known to happen w/ exclusive assortments of basic figures? I've only heard of this happening so far w/ exclusive Evolutions sets and vehicles.

It's only happened to this years WM exclusives. As a rule of thumb, never count on leftovers. The ONLY exception - Target exclusives almost always go on clearance after three months.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jesse James on April 20, 2010, 09:11 PM
I tend to agree with Anton...  Don't count on exclusives miraculously turning up elsewhere.  When an exclusive's run is done and the retailer declines a re-order, other stores have the opportunity to purchase them if they want I believe (maybe not always), so I'm not shocked that anything showed up at TRU that was once another store's set...  That said, things like ROSS's finds this past year were a first that I was aware of.  ROSS stores are cool, but they've not been a haven for this stuff in the past.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: jedipurge on April 21, 2010, 05:51 PM
oh ya, got them during lunch today, boy was I happy camper cuz almost went to Target instead to look for a movie version War Machine.

short review,
K'kruk bada$$ think i'll have to glue that cloth skirt somehow just moves around too much, for me anyway.  But the material HAS to be the best ever soft goods used on figure.

Jacen neck paint is a little off but other then that he's average figure.

Jaina average figure as well, except H has decided to mold her head same plastic as her hair color, which leave noticable brown unpainted behind her "chin/jaw".  easy enough fix but still

Space trooper pretty cool but arms/legs seem to different white then main body/head, or just different plastic used.  Didn't know the jetpack was so freakin' HUGE.

DTrooper 1 is a lot bigger then I thought he'd be, skinnier but just as tall as K'Kruk and Space trooper.  But full of bada$$ness as well.  Those arm joints seem VERY flimsy tho.

Shaak is very cool, but I think I'll be using her as an adult Ahsoka with some mods to face paint.


Bespin guy, well not much to say about him except glad I was able to get him now I don't have to worry bout not finding him   ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 22, 2010, 03:21 AM
Jacen neck paint is a little off but other then that he's average figure.

Jaina average figure as well, except H has decided to mold her head same plastic as her hair color, which leave noticable brown unpainted behind her "chin/jaw".  easy enough fix but still

Upon closer inspection of these figures on RS.com's photo archives, I was very displeased with Jaina's turnout. I like Jacen only because of the extra accessories, but I feel that Jaina is a very lack-luster, boring figure. I really don't like the use of 2009's Stass Allie tooling, and also, Jaina's neck is too fat! (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/TLC/Basic/BD60Jaina/LC-2084.jpg)  :(
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 22, 2010, 08:37 AM
I happened across a couple of these with a friend last night and we were both shocked to see the Dark Trooper, Spacetrooper and Bespin Guard as the only figures left from the wave - all four Jedi were gone.

The other five repacks were also there and it really started to get me wondering...

Having the repacks be Chewie, Luke, R2, Obi-Wan and Maul packaged in with this wave is just ridiculous.

Why couldn't they have slotted in the 2nd version of the Hoth Rebel Trooper and the 2nd version of the Imperial Scanner Tech, and hell, even the repack of the General Grievous figure which was supposed to be Red/White TLC #24 into this wave?

Something like that would have made ordering two or three cases of the EU wave from the online retailers a lot easier to swallow 'cause instead of getting five figures you didn't need, it would take things down to two figures you didn't need and another figure (Grievous) that you either wanted so you could complete the packaged numbering sequence OR you could have always sold online to someone who DID want it for that reason.

If you're gonna have repacks in a wave that is collector focused, they should have at least made it so that the case would be more appealing to a collector.

Another thing that's amusing is that the figures are hitting in April, yet they are all stickered with the Qui-Gon/Eopie offer.

They need to replace whoever is responsible for the assortments, he/she is just inept.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: efranks on April 22, 2010, 03:17 PM
I've always questioned Hasbro's choices on what figures they carry forward into revision cases and future waves and this assortment is one of those time.  However, this assortment isn't that bad when you remember that this case, at the time it was laid out, was not exclusive.  It also wasn't scheduled for release this far into 2010 originally either.

The fact is, Luke, Obi-Wan, Maul, and  to only a slightly lesser degree Chewie and R2, sell.  Two heroes with lightsabers and a bad guy with the same, plus two huge kid and fan friendly characters?  That's as close to a win at retail as you can get.

The unfortunate part is that this became a collector focused exclusive.  In that context, these five figures suck since collectors already have them or passed on them because they weren't needed.  At retail they should still do okay, but it really sucks for those that want to order by the case, and being an end-of-line wave and exclusive, that makes this a prime target for on-line orders.

If there were five army builders in the case, like an HRT or Scanning Tech, I would have ordered a case.  As it is, I won't.  I'll take my chances at retail where I'm also going to be looking for my Force Unleashed multipacks. 

   E...
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jesse James on April 22, 2010, 03:24 PM
I ordered a case but I'm going out looking for the wave anyway this evening to a local TRU.  See what I can find.

Luke, Obi (I think?) and Maul are all considered Hasbro's "A-List" characters that sell, so I'm not shocked to see them...  Not sure if Chewbacca was on that list, but I am pretty sure R2 was.  I'm not overall surprised is all, but I do think it would've been cool had they snuck the 2nd Hoth Trooper and Scanner Tech into the wave...  Like E said though, when this was laid out it was a basic wave, not exclusive, and the line wasn't planning to be changed like it has either, so I feel sure time constraints play some part in that as well.

I'd love to see Legends improve in a way similar to 2007's Legends with lots of collector-targeted figures, and hope that they can slip the 2nd Scanner Tech and Hoth Rebel into that in the future. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 22, 2010, 05:38 PM
I have a case on order myself, I wish I had been able to find more of the ESB wave at a Target 'cause then I'd be using a receipt from there to return the five figures from this wave that I don't need.

I was able to score a complete set of seven figures today and I have to say that now that I've been able to look at them close-up, this is truly a fantastic wave that should NEVER have been relegated to the end of the line.

The Spacetrooper and the Phase I Darktrooper are both fantastic figures. The Spacetrooper is an amazing improvement over the version from the late 90s. The Dark Trooper has an amazing amount of articulation and it's size is really surprising. These two figures better find their way into the Legends line, especially the Spacetrooper.

The Shaak Ti figure is great, I'm glad to finally have gotten this version of her character from the game.

K'Kruhk is another huge figure - this figure speaks volumes about how Hasbro really has gotten it "down" when it comes to making great Jedi figures from the PT.

The Solo Twins are (IMHO) the weakest figures of the wave. I can't figure out what to do with the snake-thing that comes with Jacen, the photos over on anotheR Site show the snake inter-twined around him, but I can't seem to get it to be posed like in the pictures. The Jaina is okay, she's a good generic looking female Jedi, and that's about it. I'm not into the NJO-era stuff, so I'm not as emotionally invested in these characters. It is kinda cool that Jacen is very "Han-like" in appearance though.

The Bespin Guard variant is nothing new really, new head, recolored (or new) hands and that's about it. The blue smudges on the face are really distracting, it might have been better if they just left them off.

Since I'm just looking at these in the package, I really can't say anything about the Build-a-Droid yet, but the parts do look a little flimsy. I hope the droid doesn't suffer from easily warped limbs...
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 23, 2010, 11:51 AM
When I came across the FU packs, I asked about the EU figures. The manager said they had 5 cases for the first and was expecting more. I don't think anyone needs to panic about these.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: McMetal on April 23, 2010, 04:23 PM
I think I just missed this Wave today. Saw Shirtless Maul on the pegs, and 1 or 2 other repacks from that wave I suspect. I only got there 1 hour after opening and someone had already beaten me to it. The TRU across town had nothing.  :(
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 23, 2010, 06:36 PM
When I came across the FU packs, I asked about the EU figures. The manager said they had 5 cases for the first and was expecting more. I don't think anyone needs to panic about these.

The optimist side of me hopes you're right.

However, the pessimist side of me wants to point out that five cases really doesn't amount to much. I personally want three complete sets of this wave (all seven figures) plus two additional openers of the Spacetrooper and the Dark Trooper Phase I. If I never get that much, it's not that big of a deal, but if you think about it, in order to accomplish what I want to get, I need to essentially go "through" five cases of that wave. I need five of the Spacetrooper, five of the Dark Trooper and three each of the others. So if I beat you to the TRU that only puts out five cases worth on 5/1 then you will be able to get 2x each of Jaina, Jacen, Shaak Ti, Utris M'toc and K'hruk - you will completely miss the two trooper figures.

So for my pessimist side to not slightly panic at this point, stores need to be getting in A LOT more than just five cases each.

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 24, 2010, 02:19 PM
At this point, I'm hoping that my TRU actually gets these figures period.  Their exclusives have recently become inexplicably spotty in terms of distribution (TF Animated Arcee is going to be the death of me), and when I took the information from the previously posted photo of the box (thanks Jayson!) to TRU and gave it to the manager, she told me that the numbers were the same as the Legacy assortment they already had on the pegs (namely the sea of Edians and Scanning Troopers from the HK-50 revision case that are occupying the small space not occupied by the ocean of Legends figures). 

The good (?) news, though, is that my TRU is pretty strict about following street dates marked on cases, so I'm hoping they'll have some out next Saturday.  If not, I'm going to be doing some very loud begging and pleading for the second (alien) Bespin Guard around here. :)

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 24, 2010, 03:37 PM
Well, so much for the street date. I asked and TRU brought me out a case. Very cool set. Will open them later this week. Now I only need to come across 8 more cases for my Spacetrooper squad and Legacy is a wrap for me.   :)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: iFett on April 24, 2010, 05:25 PM
(TF Animated Arcee is going to be the death of me)

Same here.  My buddies have me covered on all TRU stores in the Twin Cities, and there's been no sign of her.  Oh well....At least I have 05/01 to look forward to picking up some SW swag.   :)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 25, 2010, 03:52 PM
Well, so much for the street date. I asked and TRU brought me out a case.

Street dates almost never work... if I remember correctly, the street date for Wave 1 of TLC and TCW prodcut wasn't enforced in all areas - some people got the figures before the Midnight Madness event.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: McMetal on April 30, 2010, 11:10 AM
Just got back from TRU with some interesting news. Count me in the camp that thinks this Wave is going to be really hard to find.

They had nothing new on the pegs today, except a few extra TFU sets which had been out since Wednesday. I asked my guy there whether they got a new truck overnight or not. (Our TRU's restock Wed and Fri) He said yes, but they couldn't put everything out on display. Come to find out, they got a whopping ONE CASE of the EU Wave to put out on the endcap display going up tomorrow. ONE CASE!!!

I know for a fact, since I have been stalking this store relentlessly recently, that there are several other dweebs out looking for these. I'm literally going to have to show up prior to opening tomorrow (9am) and then run/fist-fight other geeks to score the one figure I actually want from this wave - K'krukh.

Seriously, I am going to have to sprint to the aisle and wrestle this out of someone's sweaty paws, I just know it. Because if I don't get him Saturday, I will likely never see him again.

Case in point - TCW 2010 Wave 1. Our TRU got ONE FRIGGING CASE months ago and have NEVER re-stocked this wave or either of the 2 subsequent TCW waves. In-Freaking-Excusable.

Oh, and he also confirmed they are not getting any new battlepacks to put out. I think our whole region missed out on those. I have been looking every single day for months with no luck at all. Unbelievable.  >:(
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 30, 2010, 12:02 PM
I was fortunate enough to get one each of this wave. I'm hoping to find a complete second wave. I'll stop there for myself, then be more than willing to help others get these.


Not trying to rub salt in the wound McMetal, but that K'krukh is an awesome figure!

I'm pretty happy with all of the figs from this wave. Except....the Space trooper from the onset already looks like it was stored away for 20 years and has yellowing. The white armor is all sorts of different shades between the arms, legs, torso and head. Other than that, the figure itself is excellent.

The build-a-droid fig is a bit weak in terms of plastic. But I think we can all generally agree that this was the only way that figure was ever going to come out. I don't think it would have sold well on a single card by itself.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 30, 2010, 01:55 PM
Case in point - TCW 2010 Wave 1. Our TRU got ONE FRIGGING CASE months ago and have NEVER re-stocked this wave or either of the 2 subsequent TCW waves. In-Freaking-Excusable.

I can confirm the same for a local TRU by me. A friend that works there confirmed they also only got one case. I got a Bespin Guard at least and I am very glad I have these on preorder. I am hoping to find them before the sale runs out so I can cancel but until that happens I will hold my preorder. At least I also snagged the TFU sets on sale.

I am really looking forward to the rest of the wave.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 30, 2010, 02:14 PM
Yeah - not to keep piling on with the hysteria, but I saw the plan-o-gram picture that was distributed to the stores for this end cap.

Some folks have been hoping that this end cap would be a sea of the EU wave figures and TFU box sets. Unfortunately that isn't the case.

There will be 20 pegs for figures.

Ten of those will be for Clone Wars

Five of them will be for Saga Legends

Five of them will be for Legacy Collection

That's it - only five pegs. and that's the order it goes in, the top two rows are CW, the third row is Legends and the bottom/last row is TLC.

On the shelves beneath the pegs will be vehicles, battlepacks and TFU box sets.

I was at a store that was VERY far a-field for me hoping to score a set for a friend. They have ONE case in stock and they would not sell me the figures because the witch-like manager is convinced that Hasbro is going to fine her store millions of dollars for violating the internal TRU street date of 5/1.

I have two sets of these already myself. One to open and one to keep MOC. I also have a case on-order from EE, I was kinda hoping that I could cancel that order, but it doesn't look like that will be the case (no pun intended).

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 30, 2010, 02:54 PM
Yikes, if this is only one case per store, then everyone better get crackin' tomorrow morning. Makes me think I should go to another TRU tomorrow. Well, I had planned on going to TRU anyway, just have to pick a different one and hope for the best.

I really REALLY hope TRU doesn't screw themselves up with this though. With no new product between now and July, TRU can do very well in sales by carrying this wave. It would undoubtedly lead to sales of other SW figures.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: iFett on April 30, 2010, 03:05 PM
A local here in MN said one store put out 6-7 cases of w13 and all the EU figs were gone....   :(  Hopefully the HW guys aren't sniffing up this wave.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 30, 2010, 04:03 PM
A local here in MN said one store put out 6-7 cases of w13 and all the EU figs were gone....   :(  Hopefully the HW guys aren't sniffing up this wave.

Of course they are - for the last two weeks, I have had at least seven HW guys ask me what was "up" with the "exclusive Toys R Us Star Wars wave" - the rest of the year, they haven't said **** to me while waiting for stores to open.

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 30, 2010, 07:05 PM
Of course they are - for the last two weeks, I have had at least seven HW guys ask me what was "up" with the "exclusive Toys R Us Star Wars wave" - the rest of the year, they haven't said **** to me while waiting for stores to open.

Just wondering... what's a "HW" guy?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: iFett on April 30, 2010, 07:10 PM
Just wondering... what's a "HW" guy?

Hot Wheels/scalper type folk....Expect to see a lot of these older dudes the next couple of days.  I saw a few tonight at TRU, but no new stock of w13.   ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 1, 2010, 08:00 AM
Well, I'm on my way to my selected TRU.

Good luck today everyone!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JediJman on May 1, 2010, 08:15 AM
Well, I'm on my way to my selected TRU.

Good luck today everyone!


At 7AM?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 1, 2010, 08:31 AM
I'm on the East Coast and the nearest TRU is 35 minutes away.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 1, 2010, 09:13 AM
yick - well - good luck to you Pete and all else hunting today!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: iFett on May 1, 2010, 11:01 AM
Stopped by my TRU at 9am...HW guys were already waiting at the door, but they were oblivious of anything SW once we got in the store.  The endcap wasn't set up, but there was about 5-6 cases of w13 waiting to be stocked.  Cracked open a case and got my 7, but then one of the HW guys took note of my handy work - as did an employee who bitched at me.  Not only is this a kick ass wave, but I got it for $25!!    ;D

Good luck everyone and MTFBWY   ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 1, 2010, 11:31 AM
Did very well myself - the store I went to didn't have any "competition" and they had put out six cases of the EU wave.

A friend a mine had hit another TRU within driving distance and unfortunately there he didn't have as much luck so I grabbed all six cases worth and waited for him to meet me. Once he arrived we split them up.

Feels VERY good to be done with the Legacy Collection now...
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 1, 2010, 11:48 AM
Man, consider yourselves lucky. All 3 TRU's I went to had zilch. I was hoping to get these at the sale price. Maybe I should hit that store later. I talked to an employee who seemed pretty honest that's all they had, Getting the entire wave for $25 is much better than $100.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: CHEWIE on May 1, 2010, 12:20 PM
I lucked out today too, but I also had my wife and dad going to two different stores.

Between the three of us, we ended up with 3 sets of figures plus a couple extras (one set is for a local friend who is out of town).

I did see about 8 cases worth at one store, but there were a lot of collectors trying to get them.  I could have grabbed a few more but wasn't going to with other people wanting them... I actually had grabbed two Space Troopers and gave one to another collector and another to a kid.  By 9:01am, nothing new from the wave was left on the pegs.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 1, 2010, 12:23 PM
I too ended up going back to TRU today - they didn't put out anything and there was no collector endcap. I was gonna get an extra of the 2 troopers just for kicks - but no product to help me do that so no big deal.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 1, 2010, 12:35 PM
I just tried another store and was beat by a scalper who loaded his car with 4 cases. Depressing to say the least. I wonder if this is all TRU is getting or if more will trickle in. The sale price really motivated the non SW crowd. Whole sets are going for $120+. Insane, that's why they are out in droves. Still happy I scored the TFU at the sale price and a lone Wing Guard.

If anyone scores or sees a set I will pay a finders fee plus throw in anything from my trade list. PM me if anyone can help. Thanks!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 1, 2010, 12:55 PM
Congrats to all who scored this wave! I'm particularly sad since the nearest Toys R Us is an hour and a half away from me, and therefore I'm gonna have to find other ways to score these figures. I'm not giving up on these figures, though, because this wave is just too cool!

And I wonder if there still would have been a positive response to this wave if Hasbro had sold it through other retailers as well.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 1, 2010, 03:48 PM
I lucked out today too, but I also had my wife and dad going to two different stores.

Between the three of us, we ended up with 3 sets of figures plus a couple extras (one set is for a local friend who is out of town).

I did see about 8 cases worth at one store, but there were a lot of collectors trying to get them.  I could have grabbed a few more but wasn't going to with other people wanting them... I actually had grabbed two Space Troopers and gave one to another collector and another to a kid.  By 9:01am, nothing new from the wave was left on the pegs.


I just tried another store and was beat by a scalper who loaded his car with 4 cases. Depressing to say the least. I wonder if this is all TRU is getting or if more will trickle in.

At this point, when this is the scenario that unfolds when a brand new wave of figures is out, I nolonger consider this hobby to be fun.

The whole situation with this wave is ******* ridiculous.  
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: iFett on May 1, 2010, 04:42 PM
I went back to the same TRU a few hours later to try and help some locals.  The cases were still on the floor - unstocked and someone went through each case and took all the troopers, leaving behind the other five from each case. 
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 1, 2010, 05:26 PM
At this point, when this is the scenario that unfolds when a brand new wave of figures is out, I nolonger consider this hobby to be fun.

The whole situation with this wave is ******* ridiculous.  

I'm someone who was able to score everything I wanted from this wave and I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment.

I haven't really viewed this hobby to be "fun" for quite some time. I continue with the hobby because it seems silly to me to quit now with 15 years in.

Over in the Ask Hasbro thread I asked the question of why couldn't they make this case be something that was more collector friendly since it was clearly a collector-oriented wave.

I really wish we would submit that as one of our JD questions.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JediJman on May 1, 2010, 06:13 PM
Well, I managed to find at least 2x of the elusive TRU wave this morning and was doubly happy to find them at ridiculously cheap prices.  The sale was good enough for me to actually by the rest of the fodder for an extra BAD and even some extra troopers.

I have mixed feelings on the whole event.  I thought it was kind of exciting to have a "release date" of sorts and definitely a nice surprise to get the figures on sale.  I'm definitely going to be biased here because I got the wave, but sounds like most people who got there at the store opening found at least a wave of the new figures.  I realize not everyone has a TRU nearby or could get their in time for opening - it was a struggle for me to get there early with two kids as well.  At least we knew the date they were coming out and most stores got 6-8 cases from what I've read, which is more than I expected.  Face it, this release wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been.

Personally, I hate exclusives because someone always gets hosed no matter what retailer or event is chosen.  That said, they are here to stay because retailers really like them and it gives Hasbro a chance to dish out smaller assortments.  There always seems to be more buzz around exclusives, so as much as people complain, there is something to the hype behind these. 

What's shameful about all this is the way TRU has handled the whole release.  Seems like everyone and their sister has known 5/1 was the release date, but you have to go through a dozen TRU employees to find one who knew about it.  There was also supposed to be a dedicated endcap for the EU wave, which I'm sure was part of Hasbro's agreement.  But I only know of one store that bothered to put up a display.  And man, I love getting figures for $1.24, but I can't believe it was anyone's intent to let exclusive figures go for that price.  They should have been charging full price, if not $9 or $10 for these given the demand.  No wonder TRU sales are struggling - you couldn't plan a cluster like this if you tried. 

I think what bothers me most though are the TRU employees.  I asked 6 or 7 employees about this wave over the course of the week and got different answers every time - none of them really believable.  TRU should either come up with an inventory system like Target to track their stuff or train their employees better.  Frankly, I'd rather hear "I don't know anything about it" than some BS story about how I should check back next Wed/Thurs for figures.  Or someone telling me the UPCs I give them aren't in their system when a buddy already bought the figures a week earlier. 

Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox and just wish everyone who didn't get a win today better luck in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Diddly on May 1, 2010, 06:14 PM
No sign of this wave locally. The lone TRU in the area had 4 1st day of issue Yarnas on the pegs, about 10 Legends Saesee Tinns and Plo Koons and a couple of Clone Wars figs. This is the same stock this store had on Monday when I went to see if they had anything for the BOGO 1/2 Off sale. They did have 2 of each TFU set but a Hot Wheels guy came up when I was debating over whether to buy them and scooped all 4 into his cart.

I decided to pick up this wave after all, and I'll probably end up preordering from EE or somewhere similar within the next few days. No use wasting gas hoping that product will magically appear on TRU's shelves.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 1, 2010, 06:29 PM
I went back to the same TRU a few hours later to try and help some locals.  The cases were still on the floor - unstocked and someone went through each case and took all the troopers, leaving behind the other five from each case. 

I would happily buy them ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
if you go back I will reward your efforts! ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 1, 2010, 06:56 PM
I hit 5 TRU's today. Not one had an endcap, not one stocked wave 13 and not one had any idea about an endcap. Bummer. Did have one store pull a wave 13 case out for me, so it wasn't a total loss. Just prectically. Scored a bunch of regular Stormies and more scanning techs, though.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darby on May 1, 2010, 07:22 PM
My TRU today:

No endcap.

No one who knew about the endcap.

No wave 13.

No one who knew about wave 13.

No one willing to look in the back.

I bought the BAD from overseas a while ago, which was my main concern, but there are figures I want from this group.  I waited 30 years to get a vinyl cape Jawa, though, so waiting to find some people from comics I never read is no skin off my behind.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: iFett on May 1, 2010, 07:52 PM
Should Hasbro have dumped these at TRU?  I think they would have done very well at standard retail especially since it has been months (09?) since the last wave of Legacy.  Always nice to see new stuff on the pegs that aren't Koons or Tinns.  These things are worse than Yarna and they just keep multiplying.  I love every single figure in this wave even though I'm no fan of EU.  I'm sure kids would have went nuts over the troopers.

I went back to the same TRU a few hours later to try and help some locals.  The cases were still on the floor - unstocked and someone went through each case and took all the troopers, leaving behind the other five from each case. 

I would happily buy them
if you go back I will reward your efforts!

Sorry but no dice.  I'm finally caving on picking up Arcee online since I'm sick and tired of stopping there everyday, so I have no interest in TRU and I'm not going back there until August.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: McMetal on May 1, 2010, 08:03 PM
Wow,

Well, I figured there would be some interesting stories from today, and I have another to add.

I got to my local TRU about 10 minutes before opening, and there was one guy waiting out front who I had seen earlier this week haunting the SW aisle. Uh-oh. I already knew from yesterday that they only had 1 case to put out, so I figured I might be in for a fight.

I figured I would try the friendly, proactive approach so I chatted him up while we were waiting for the doors to open. Turns out he was mainly looking for Shaak-Ti and I let him know I wanted K'Kruhk so we worked it all out amicably.

So anyway, the doors finally open and we rush in expectantly only to find: NO ENDCAP, and NO WAVE 13 on the pegs. WTF?!?! So I grabbed the nearest store drone and asked if he could check in the back for us.

Now this is where it gets weird. Dude comes back with a full, unopened case. We crack it open and the other guys snags his Shaak-Ti and I snagged my K'Kruhk. As we continue pulling them out though, he notes there is no Jacen, only a Jaina. Hmm, I also notice there is no Spacetrooper. WTF?

They had plenty of room to include the sh*tty repack figures, but they had to leave out Jacen and the Spacetrooper? What kind of asinine case assortment is that? Has anyone else noticed this? What's even the point of shipping half a wave?

I'm thinking of heading across town to check the other location, but this really struck me as odd.

At any rate, I got the one figure I really wanted, so I am happy. I kinda wanted the Dark Trooper Phase 2 also, but the other guy seemed to have an interest too, so I deferred to him in the interest of karma. Those price deals are insane though...I should have bought the rest just as an investment.

Crazy day!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 1, 2010, 08:15 PM
What's shameful about all this is the way TRU has handled the whole release.  Seems like everyone and their sister has known 5/1 was the release date, but you have to go through a dozen TRU employees to find one who knew about it.  There was also supposed to be a dedicated endcap for the EU wave, which I'm sure was part of Hasbro's agreement.  But I only know of one store that bothered to put up a display. 

While of course I can't speak for the display you saw, like I said in an earlier post, the endcap was only to feature 25% of the pegs dedicated to the Legacy collection. 50% of the pegs were to be dedicated to Clone Wars and the remaining 25% dedicated to Legends.

The one store I hit this morning didn't bother with an endcap and I can understand why - they dedicate almost an entire aisle to Star Wars so for them to dedicate any more space to Star Wars would probably be silly. So I really don't have a problem if the store really didn't know about the endcap or about the 5/1 street date - afterall the place I scored today was the same place I had already scored a set from last week, so they clearly didn't care about the sticker on the box.

One of the things I did do today was take advantage of the BOGO and buy two more Rebel Pilots Evolution sets. I took the Dorovio Bold figure and swapped heads with one of the Jaina Solo figures I picked up today - the heads swap perfectly and now I have a Jaina in Pilot Gear figure to add to my EU collection.

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: CHEWIE on May 2, 2010, 01:00 AM
I don't blame the people who missed out so far being upset at all.  I don't know that it's really something that I attribute to TRU employees too much though, or the company in general.  Did they advertise that these figures would be available? I don't believe they did.  We were all just hoping that they would.  I blame Hasbro for their mismanagement of Legacy for the past year or so - not the retailers.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Nicklab on May 2, 2010, 02:09 AM
Hasbro definitely let people know that this wave was going to be scarce.  And that was pretty much the case in the stores this morning.  I saw a good number of collectors in TRU stores this morning, because they were looking for the same thing I was.  I managed to score the whole EU wave, but it took visits to 4 different TRU to get everything in the wave.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JediJman on May 2, 2010, 02:15 AM
The one store I hit this morning didn't bother with an endcap and I can understand why - they dedicate almost an entire aisle to Star Wars so for them to dedicate any more space to Star Wars would probably be silly.

The problem there is that manufacturers pay for display space.  If Hasbro paid big bucks to TRU for a display and didn't get it, then TRU is cheating them out of their money and not doing the SW aisle any good either.  Doesn't really matter to me if the display has exclusives or not - the point of a display is to catch the eye of someone who might not normally be hunting in the SW aisle.

I don't blame the people who missed out so far being upset at all.  I don't know that it's really something that I attribute to TRU employees too much though, or the company in general.  Did they advertise that these figures would be available? I don't believe they did.  We were all just hoping that they would.  I blame Hasbro for their mismanagement of Legacy for the past year or so - not the retailers.

That's true, I don't think they advertised the release.  Just seems like a lot of people knew about it.  I don't run a retail chain or manage a store either.  All I'm saying here is that if I did run a toy store and one of the hottest lines has an exclusive coming to my store - one that I'm supposed to put up a display for in fact - then I might do my best to inform my sales people, get the display up, and do a quick check to make sure the sale pricing is accurate.  Pretty hard to blame Hasbro for any of that IMHO.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jesse James on May 2, 2010, 02:40 AM
Most stores in the Pittsburgh area didn't even have anything to stock, much less the EU wave, so it was a bust for me.  A buddy hit 2 stores north of me and saw nothing, I hit the nearer of the stores I visit and they also had nothing, and checked and had no cases in stock.  Only a couple stores in the entire area actually even had the EU wave to put  on the pegs.

I got a FU set as a 2nd set, and was pretty pleased with that though.  I have this wave on pre-order, but I was hoping to nab an extra wave or just a couple from it.  Met another collector in the area though, and that's always nice.  We were the only two there.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 2, 2010, 07:32 AM
Ok, few more comments on the whole endcap thing...

In the picture I saw from the color instruction sheet that was sent to the stores, the ten CW pegs were represented by a photo of the carded Ponds figure.

The Legends figures were represented by five pictures of the carded ROTS clone.

The last row of pegs - the ones for Legacy were represented by the loose photo of Sgt. Edian.

The spot for the Force Unleashed packs was a nebulous gray box.

So while I agree that there is a chance that Hasbro paid some money for the endcap to be displayed/set-up, if they did, they dropped the ball when it came down to the stores actually giving them their money's worth.

1) They still have store reps, they should have sent them to the store to educate

2) The instruction photo for setting up the endcap should have been more accurate and helped to hype the EU exclusive wave

That would just be good business sense. So the conclusions you could draw from that are:

1) Neither company (Hasbro or TRU) cares or has any good business sense

2) Hasbro didn't have anything to do with the endcap idea - they merely put that sticker on the boxes at the request of TRU

3) The endcap was optional based on store stock and the amount of space already dedicated to Star Wars

4) All of the above.

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 2, 2010, 07:45 AM
I just realized EE has this case up for preorder with a June delivery for $99.99

Thanks anyhow TRU!  I'll have mine delivered to my door and skip all the usual bull**** at your store.


You can't find a K'Kruhk on a peg hook at TRU, but you sure can find him all over eBay for $25.

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: jedi_master_sal on May 2, 2010, 08:20 AM
...

That would just be good business sense. So the conclusions you could draw from that are:

3) The endcap was optional based on store stock and the amount of space already dedicated to Star Wars

Were there truly a plan to have an endcap, I'd say this is the most reasonable option.

I only went to one and they did not have the endcap. IN fact they had no TFU stock on the pegs, be that the wave or packs. Granted though, I did get two sets of the packs and a complete wave from this store just a day before. So maybe I depleted their stock?

Man, if that's the case, that's pretty sad. I thought Hasbro makes a minimum of 50K of each figure to justify the cost of tooling, R&D and of course to make a profit. So if TRU's are only getting one or maybe two cases of this wave, then indeed Hasbro has cut way back on the production numbers.

I just know to buy them when I see them, regardless of sale or not.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 2, 2010, 09:43 AM
At least the $5 figure offer is in play until July, so we can still get this wave inexpensively at TRU over the next month or so. I just need a few more spacetroopers and I'm done.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Captain Piet on May 2, 2010, 12:15 PM
At the store I started at, endcap meant that the two EU cases they had were sitting in the box on the shelf of the endcap.
These people (Hasbro, Toys R Us) don't care. They don't want to be bothered. To them, it's still 2007.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JediJman on May 2, 2010, 12:45 PM
Ok, few more comments on the whole endcap thing...

I actually have a lot of experience in category management at retail stores, so wanted to shed some light on a few of these comments.

#1 - While some retailers offer displays at no charge, the vast majority of them are paid for.  In this case, it was likely part of the deal to carry the exclusives (either a fixed cost reduction or lower price per case on Hasbro's behalf in exchange for display space).  For action figures, it would rarely have consisted of just the exclusive figures - this is a kick back to Hasbro of sorts to help them sell other SW as well as the new stuff. 

#2 - I have never heard of an "optional" display endcap.  That's like saying someone will give you $100,000 for a car and you can just decide later if you want to give it to them or not.  There are varying levels of compliance by store, but they are not optional and stores can be fined by manufacturers for not putting them up if they are caught.  If there was a sticker on the box indicating a display, it wasn't just by chance or a "suggestion" from Hasbro. 

#3 - The "color instruction sheet" you referred to is called a planogram.  These are built from software that can manage all of the product dimensions and determine how much space is available (HXWXD) and number of products that will fit each slot. 

#4 - A category management team is responsible for submitting pictures for retailers, but they are frequently out of date.  The shelf plan is worked on and finalized months before it is set, so manufacturers rarely have time to put the most current product into the photo.  In many cases there is just a generic box that holds the information of the product.  There are product names and product codes to tell sales people what product goes where - they don't just go by the pictures.  They're actually incredibly simple to follow.  I don't see any indicationthat Hasbro dropped the ball on this.

#5 - The endcap was obviously meant to be comprised of lots of different Star Wars items, not just the TRU exclusives.  Not having the items in stock is not an excuse - they can still build an endcap for the product they have available.  Retailers do have the flexibility to alter the planogram if/when items sell out, so they could easily have expanded the Legends or CW pegs if needed.  Better to offer Hasbro a display of old product than no display at all.

#6 - Store reps are responsible for dozens of stores - sometimes hundreds.  If Hasbro has to pay someone time x gas to go check the display in every store, then you better expect to start paying a lot more for figures. That cost goes up exponentially if you're thinking the Hasbro reps should be the ones building the displays.

I watch things like sunday ad features and displays pretty closely because I deal with merchandising support at my work all the time.  From everything I've seen and read, this was a giant cluster on TRU's behalf.  When Target puts up a display, I have seen pallets readied the evening before and a team of 3-4 people builds it as soon as the store closes.  I sure wouldn't spend my merchandising dollars on TRU support after something like this.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Captain Piet on May 2, 2010, 01:02 PM
Hey, TRU is far more at fault here, but I truly believe Hasbro has mismanaged this brand. Then it turns around and blames us.
Pete and I can tell you how bad it's been in our area. And when he's seen a Hasbro rep, he's given him/her what for. They know not what they do.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 2, 2010, 01:52 PM
IMHO, this is just another jab in the back to tell us that street dates NEVER work. Honestly, when was the last time every store in the U.S. has taken a  street date seriously? To most Toys R Us stores, what we consider collector's items - the figures themselves - are seen only as toys, which they are. But there are other solutions besides Toys R Us: EE, HasbroShop.com... etc. Ordering online saves a great deal of frustration, but it's also not like the exciting feeling when you walk into a store and find that figure you've been hunting down for the longest time.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 3, 2010, 01:40 PM
Well...

I opened all my EU figs and want just wanted to let the universe know that I'm pretty impressed with the quality of the over all wave. My only disappointment in all 8 figures (including the BAD and Alien BWG) is the lack of articulation on the Spacetrooper arm guns. Other than that, well done.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 3, 2010, 02:06 PM
I talked to a very helpful TRU employee that is expecting 5k more figures. So this wave may show up in heavier numbers soon. Also the $5 sale goes until July so the price is still right. Here is hoping!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Diddly on May 3, 2010, 02:15 PM
I just realized EE has this case up for preorder with a June delivery for $99.99

Thanks anyhow TRU!  I'll have mine delivered to my door and skip all the usual bull**** at your store.


You can't find a K'Kruhk on a peg hook at TRU, but you sure can find him all over eBay for $25.



Preordering this as soon as I get home. Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 3, 2010, 03:21 PM
I talked to a very helpful TRU employee that is expecting 5k more figures. So this wave may show up in heavier numbers soon. Also the $5 sale goes until July so the price is still right. Here is hoping!

I was looking for anything I could use to postpone a public meltdown, and this bit of news will do just fine.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 3, 2010, 03:34 PM
I just realized EE has this case up for preorder with a June delivery for $99.99

Thanks anyhow TRU!  I'll have mine delivered to my door and skip all the usual bull**** at your store.


You can't find a K'Kruhk on a peg hook at TRU, but you sure can find him all over eBay for $25.



Preordering this as soon as I get home. Thanks for the heads up!

Of course, EE will delay delivery over and over again until its Christmas. By that time these things will be peg warming for months. At least that is my experience. I just don't see paying $10 each for figures if they can't keep their initial ETA. Too bad there isn't a discount if the order is delayed.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: CHEWIE on May 3, 2010, 03:55 PM
I dunno.. I really don't see much from this wave pegwarming at all, outside of the repacks and Utris.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: STARKILLER on May 3, 2010, 04:55 PM
does anyone know the days tru gets trucks?this wave has yet to hit my area at all,and i by no means want to waste time and gas to go just to be greeted by saga "legends" chewy and willrow hood ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Diddly on May 3, 2010, 04:55 PM
Of course, EE will delay delivery over and over again until its Christmas. By that time these things will be peg warming for months. At least that is my experience. I just don't see paying $10 each for figures if they can't keep their initial ETA. Too bad there isn't a discount if the order is delayed.

True, but I was able to get the Indiana Jones Temple of Doom wave from EE without any trouble, so I'm willing to take a chance.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 3, 2010, 05:02 PM
does anyone know the days tru gets trucks?this wave has yet to hit my area at all,and i by no means want to waste time and gas to go just to be greeted by saga "legends" chewy and willrow hood ::)

don't know if this is a nation wide thing that can be said to be gospel for all stores - but mine gets shipments Wednesday and Friday year round - with more of course during the holidays.

as for EE - I have never had a problem with them and they are always pretty reliable imo.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jayson on May 3, 2010, 05:03 PM
Yep, I'd call your particular store to find out as sometimes it depends on store volume. (Slower stores get fewer trucks, busier stores get more.)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: STARKILLER on May 3, 2010, 05:09 PM
ok,thanks for the heads up guys,heres hoping   :-\ lol
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: speedermike on May 3, 2010, 05:17 PM
Wow.  I feel really lucky.  I've seen this wave a few times over the last two weeks.  TRU's in Bronx/Queens seem to be loaded.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JediJman on May 3, 2010, 06:04 PM
I talked to a very helpful TRU employee that is expecting 5k more figures. So this wave may show up in heavier numbers soon. Also the $5 sale goes until July so the price is still right. Here is hoping!

Did I read this correctly that someone told you they had 5,000 more figures on the way?  I hope that is the case as these are fantastic figures and a lot of people seemed to have missed out.  That said, I now trust TRU employees about as far as I can throw my car.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 3, 2010, 09:06 PM
Youy read correctly and even Galactic Hunter got some word from Hasbro.

If anyone here comes across this wave I would be more than happy to reward the effort of picking them up for me. I can even send the money beforehand.  Those that have dealt with me know I am good for it. I really want some extra Jainas to make a few personal customs. PM me if anyone can help I will also throw in anything from my trade list including vehicles if you an get the whole way and a few extras. I just got more AT-ST's in 2 weeks ago and would happily throw one in. A local WM had some tucked away. I would love to cancel my wave case so I am not stuck with extras.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: McMetal on May 4, 2010, 09:12 AM
Youy read correctly and even Galactic Hunter got some word from Hasbro.

If anyone here comes across this wave I would be more than happy to reward the effort of picking them up for me. I can even send the money beforehand.  Those that have dealt with me know I am good for it. I really want some extra Jainas to make a few personal customs. PM me if anyone can help I will also throw in anything from my trade list including vehicles if you an get the whole way and a few extras. I just got more AT-ST's in 2 weeks ago and would happily throw one in. A local WM had some tucked away. I would love to cancel my wave case so I am not stuck with extras.

I'll keep an eye out for ya. I'd really love to work a swap for the Holocron Heist and Jedi Showdown Battlepacks, if you can get ahold of those. Will PM if/when I can find something...thanks in advance~
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 4, 2010, 09:17 AM
Youy read correctly and even Galactic Hunter got some word from Hasbro.

If anyone here comes across this wave I would be more than happy to reward the effort of picking them up for me. I can even send the money beforehand.  Those that have dealt with me know I am good for it. I really want some extra Jainas to make a few personal customs. PM me if anyone can help I will also throw in anything from my trade list including vehicles if you an get the whole way and a few extras. I just got more AT-ST's in 2 weeks ago and would happily throw one in. A local WM had some tucked away. I would love to cancel my wave case so I am not stuck with extras.

I'll keep an eye out for ya. I'd really love to work a swap for the Holocron Heist and Jedi Showdown Battlepacks, if you can get ahold of those. Will PM if/when I can find something...thanks in advance~

I will be sure to keep an eye out I am going on a run tomorrow and today. I really appreciate the help!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Brian on May 4, 2010, 12:40 PM
A little late posting here, but I checked our local store on Saturday as well, but no sign of the EU wave here.  I'm not really sure what to do with this wave, as I was thinking of preordering it as well - but I'm not sure if I have to have everyone in the wave.  Sure, I'd like to and would probably pick them up if I found them in the store, but as I'm running out of room lately I'm really considering and re-considering every EU figure I buy.  Its getting tougher to just jam them all in the Cantina if I don't have somewhere for them to go :).  I'd really like K'Kruhk more than anything else (well, and the BaD), and thought about the Spacetrooper as well.  The others look nice too, but I guess I could live without them.  Considering I'm just ho-hum on much of the wave, I'm not sure if I want to spend $100 on a case or not.  I think they could have just sent this to mass retail as well, and it would have done just fine.  I bet I could count on one hand how many Legacy figures are on the pegs locally between the "big 3", and it has been that way for awhile.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: CHEWIE on May 4, 2010, 02:55 PM
These seem to be hitting in fair numbers in my area now as apparently both TRU stores close to my house have restocked - makes for at least 12 cases hitting both stores since Saturday.  That still doesn't meet demand for the area I'm sure, but at least this is a sign that they're still being restocked.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 4, 2010, 03:22 PM
I got that same infor the other day but my local TRUs have been crawling with dudes in search of this wave. I hit it today to scout, I knew they would have none but I had the bug. The aisle was packed with HW guys sniffing for a buck. Of course I have meetings all day tomorrow so I will not be able to check. Wed & Friday are the truck shipments, the a local TRU is supposedly getting more.

Again, I know it sounds desperate but if anyone can help PM me get this wave I can pay you immediately so you will not have to put out the money......help me JediDefender your my only hope.......
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: STARKILLER on May 4, 2010, 05:37 PM
as i stated in the wrong forum lol,i went looking again for these today and zilch,very sub par tru,but i have come to except this from retail these days
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: McMetal on May 5, 2010, 11:34 AM
Again, I know it sounds desperate but if anyone can help PM me get this wave I can pay you immediately so you will not have to put out the money......help me JediDefender your my only hope.......

PM sent...you are covered.  ;)

Our TRU stocked about 3 new cases this morning, and finally got the endcap display up. I scored all 7 new fugures, plus an extra Shaak-Ti for myself. (Great sculpt!)

I ran into another collector buying stuff for someone else too, definitely not a scalper though, seemed pretty cool.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: evenflow on May 5, 2010, 01:35 PM
Picked up the wave today and the new Cloud City guard.  Happy to get them with the TRU sale price.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 5, 2010, 04:14 PM
Again, I know it sounds desperate but if anyone can help PM me get this wave I can pay you immediately so you will not have to put out the money......help me JediDefender your my only hope.......

PM sent...you are covered.  ;)

Our TRU stocked about 3 new cases this morning, and finally got the endcap display up. I scored all 7 new fugures, plus an extra Shaak-Ti for myself. (Great sculpt!)

I ran into another collector buying stuff for someone else too, definitely not a scalper though, seemed pretty cool.

YOU RULE!!!!
Of course I had all day meetings so I could not get out earlyenough when I knew a truck was coming. I took a quick ride and I saw the endcap a few minutes ago. Judging by the repacks about 3-4 cases max. It was cleaned out but Mr.McMetal is selling me a set as of today.

You are a real cool member and deserve a shout out! Thanks to you only am only looking for a couple of extras so the stress is off! I cannot wait to get these!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Keonobi on May 6, 2010, 01:31 PM
Finally got a chance to get to the local TRU and they had a bunch of this wave.  I didn't count specifically but atleast 4 complete sets.  I picked up Shak Ti, K'Ruhk, the Spacetrooper and the Dark Trooper.  Very excited to get these.  Also loving that TRU has left the price at $5 a pop for a little while.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 6, 2010, 05:19 PM
Stopped into the TRU near where I work this morning, scored a complete set of the EU wave.

Since he's helping me out with the Star Tours stuff, this set is for Paul (Master_Phruby).

I'll keep checking this store as they continue to get trucks and help out as many folks here as I can...

Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darby on May 7, 2010, 11:47 AM
My TRU just reloaded... on several cases of Legends.  In the event that we don't see any of this wave here, would any one be willing to help me out with the following:

1X K'ruhk
1X Spacetrooper
1X Utris M'Troc

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 7, 2010, 02:26 PM
Scored!
Got the extras I needed, a set for a friend, a few for another friend who asked first and 3 EU guys for Rob. It was a mad dash but the pegs are fairly full with repacks and Tinns. I just canceled my case order as the $5 price is too hard to beat.

I am officially done with Legacy!!!! ::)
I will make more runs to get extras for other JDer's.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: STARKILLER on May 7, 2010, 09:32 PM
i found 2 cases worth at a local tru today,picked up the 2 darktroopers,very cool looking figs
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jesse James on May 7, 2010, 11:44 PM
Very cool store score man.  I haven't had a chance to even get out and about yet, but I'm hoping to this weekend.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 8, 2010, 10:14 AM
Some of my TRUs did create the collector endcap after all. Hopefully the EU will keep coming. I need 4 more Spacetroopers.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jayson on May 8, 2010, 10:44 AM
Toys"R"Us.com has posted the EU figures for order (full price though)

Dark Trooper (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214703)
Jaina Solo (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214697)
Jacen Solo (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214701)
Spacetrooper (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214702)
Shaak Ti (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214700)
K'Kruhk (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214694)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darby on May 8, 2010, 12:04 PM
Spacetrooper out of stock already.  I'm just going to wait.  If I find them in the stores, I find them.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Nicklab on May 8, 2010, 04:00 PM
Toys"R"Us.com has posted the EU figures for order (full price though)

Dark Trooper (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214703)
Jaina Solo (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214697)
Jacen Solo (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214701)
Spacetrooper (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214702)
Shaak Ti (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214700)
K'Kruhk (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4214694)


They're all out of stock already.  Thanks for the links though Jayson!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: iFett on May 8, 2010, 05:07 PM
I just walked into the SW aisle this morning and an employee just said - let me go check the back, I know there's more cases in the back.  Without me even asking she brought me out 3 cases of w13.  That was cool of her.  Hooked up a few more locals with the troopers.
Title: MOST WANTED WAVE 13 FIG?
Post by: STARKILLER on May 8, 2010, 08:40 PM
so,who seems to be the most valued or sought after fig from wave 13?from the feedback i have been reading i am surprised to see the spacetrooper getting alot of mention,but i still think the dark trooper phase 1 is the best looking/constructed/articulated fig out of this wave,and it is a beast ta boot,whats everyone else's  thoughts?
Title: Re: MOST WANTED WAVE 13 FIG?
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 8, 2010, 09:05 PM
Speaking for myself I'm most interested in the 2nd Bespin Security Guard, with K'Kruhk and Spacetrooper coming in 2nd.

Not interested in any others.
Title: Re: MOST WANTED WAVE 13 FIG?
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 8, 2010, 10:36 PM
Just the Bespin Guard and K'Kruhk for me.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 8, 2010, 10:57 PM
You kidding? The Bespin Security guard is the only one of this wave I've seen.  It's the peg warmer of the wave around here.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 8, 2010, 11:57 PM
You kidding? The Bespin Security guard is the only one of this wave I've seen.  It's the peg warmer of the wave around here.

That's if you can sell people on the idea that a figure who's release date was 7 days ago is capable of warming a peg already.

If you told me Yarna and Sae Sae Tiin were warming pegs in your area, that I'd buy.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: STARKILLER on May 9, 2010, 03:22 PM
seems these have dried up fast being i am now seeing the end caps but only clone wars figs on the pegs
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 9, 2010, 05:39 PM
You kidding? The Bespin Security guard is the only one of this wave I've seen.  It's the peg warmer of the wave around here.

That's if you can sell people on the idea that a figure who's release date was 7 days ago is capable of warming a peg already.

If you told me Yarna and Sae Sae Tiin were warming pegs in your area, that I'd buy.


Considering the rest of the wave is long gone. I'd say he is warming the pegs. We still see lots of Yarne and Sae Sae Tiin.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: STARKILLER on May 9, 2010, 05:39 PM
i was just wondering,i thought i started a new topic on the most wanted wave 13(eu) fig?was it merged into this thread?
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jayson on May 9, 2010, 06:45 PM
i was just wondering,i thought i started a new topic on the most wanted wave 13(eu) fig?was it merged into this thread?

Yep, eight posts up from this one.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: McMetal on May 9, 2010, 10:27 PM
Agreed, Bespin Security dude is the leftover I see most consistently. Shaak ti and the Space Troopers seem to fly off the fastest.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Nicklab on May 9, 2010, 11:13 PM
Up until this past week it's been rare to even see Utris M'toc at retail.  The most common indicator of the EU wave that I've seen in the stores have been the repacks:  Luke, Obi-Wan, Darth Maul, R2 and Chewbacca.  Slapping the pegwarmer label on Utris M'toc at this point seems a bit premature.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Muftak on May 10, 2010, 12:58 AM
Found these this weekend, my TRU had the endcap and what must've been 5 or 6 cases worth between it and the aisle. I was pretty happy to find them at 5 bucks a pop, too.

Pretty dissappointed in the already yellowing Spacetroopers, though. Now I'm hoping he gets a rerelease down the line so we get better plastic. Happy as a clam to actually own Jaina and Jacen figures, those are two from my EU wish list I never thoought I'd see, and after the scary talk a week ago, I was ready to dash my hopes for a second time rather than jump through hoops or pay exorbitant prices for them.

I wish the repack figures had worked out better for me as far as putting together a complete BG droid...I might have picked up an R2 or Chewie or Obi Wan if they were worth the while. (As it stands, I need arms!) A funny thing that occurred to me is if this is the only case ratio we ever see of this wave (as I believe it is) then Hasbro actually had to make twice as many of the BG droid as any of the figures they decided were worth selling to us. Kind of amusing.

All in all, I'm pleased with how this wave ended up. I am done with Legacy now, and good riddance! I give the collection as a whole a D+. Do better with the Vintage line, please!
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 10, 2010, 10:25 AM
The Spacetrooper turned out to be a figure I really like better than I thought I would. I liked him so much I bought 4. I saw the plastic color too but it did not bother me too much. So in order of favorites of this wave it would have to be:

K'kruhk (A slam dunk perfect figure. The only drawback is his missing hat)

Jaina (One of the the if not the best female headsculpt in SW. My only complaint is the saber is not purple)

Spacetrooper (This figure looks great with the POTF2 era Stormtrooper standard blaster. Big & Beefy!)

Shaak ti (Very well done, I have zero complaints)

Jacen (Nice, no complaints. Just nothing to go gaga about)

U'tris (His hat could stand to fit better but is a nice change. I thought these guys were too tall & too specific but it's easy to change with head swaps.)

Darktrooper (I think this figure sucks personally. It looks good for what it is but I am not into the design at all.)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 10, 2010, 11:58 AM
Bummer that the spacetrooper was one of the first to sell out. I'd buy it at the higher price just to be secure in getting the last ones I need.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: efranks on May 10, 2010, 07:01 PM
A funny thing that occurred to me is if this is the only case ratio we ever see of this wave (as I believe it is) then Hasbro actually had to make twice as many of the BG droid as any of the figures they decided were worth selling to us. Kind of amusing.

Ha!  I hadn't thought of that but you're right, and it is interesting.  I'd have to double check but this may not be the only wave that's like that either, some of the final waves had only one case revision and I don't believe any new characters were packed 2x in any of the cases.

I think it's also shameful on Hasbro's part that there isn't a single re-pack in this wave that can be considered an army builder.  That Jedi Luke has been packed 4 times and R2 3 times.  It's not like either of them were hard to find unless you were after a certain droid part.

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Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 11, 2010, 10:34 PM
It seems like lots of folks who want this wave are finding it.

The TRU near where I work got in five more cases that they put out this morning. This brings the case count at this store (that I'm aware of) up to 14.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 12, 2010, 11:06 AM
One of my stores has gotten about 10 over the course of the last few weeks and sell out fairly quickly. Repacks too. Hope they keep coming.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: STARKILLER on May 12, 2010, 01:12 PM
i have only seen 2 cases thus far,i guess its all about location,dont get me wrong,im not complaining,but i wouldnt mind pickin up a few openers at this price
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jesse James on May 12, 2010, 03:16 PM
I got a set from a friend but I've never seen them in the stores.  I really was hoping for some Darktroopers for army building, but nada so far.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: McMetal on May 12, 2010, 03:17 PM
Our TRU put out 5 more cases today...that's at least 10 so far, not bad at all.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: STARKILLER on May 12, 2010, 06:34 PM
I got a set from a friend but I've never seen them in the stores.  I really was hoping for some Darktroopers for army building, but nada so far.
it must be where we live man,i swear its a void
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 13, 2010, 02:38 PM
Finally scored this wave in it's entirety today.  Ran into drips and drabs in the past 2 weeks, but today the entire wave was on the pegs, and I took the whole thing.

Quite the fiasco too.  These have been in the stockroom since the last truck at TRU, and the next truck comes tomorrow, yet every day since last truck various employees told me "all we have is what's on the sales floor."

Yet every day I'd find another couple figures from the case on the shelf.  It was obvious 1-2 cases had been put out a day even though there were none in the stockroom.  This has been going on since May 1st.

Finally today, I hit it just right.

Annoying to be sure, but I love me some K'Kruhk.
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 12, 2010, 02:03 PM
Finally got this wave from EE.  Great set, not a bad figure among them!

(Except some of the repacks...why do we keep getting shirtless Maul?)
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: P-Siddy on June 12, 2010, 03:11 PM
why do we keep getting shirtless Maul?)

Someone at Hasbro loves topless tattooed guys??  :-X
Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Theta 288 on June 24, 2010, 10:49 PM
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Title: Re: Legacy Wave 13 - Expanded Universe
Post by: Jabba the Slug on June 25, 2010, 01:27 AM
ooooh nice army...

On a different note, I'm going to buy the ENTIRE wave online. It'll be my first online purchase! Although I'm groaning at the thought of how much it'll cost me.