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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Revenge of the Sith => Topic started by: Scott on April 29, 2005, 12:57 AM
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So, basically, all I see is no more action feature and the backpack and better shoulders. The belt tooling is also different and the torso articulation is also there
#41 also has some dirt on him which I really don't care for :-\
So, to me at least, I'd still army build with either because for the most part, to the quick glance they are almost the same. If you are going for poseability and action scene, then go nuts on #41 :)
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Yeah Scott, I won't disagree. Owning a single (**** >:( ) SA Clone from Clone Wars, and comparing it with the #6 Clone, I'm pretty impressed with the #6 Clone overall.
The torso articulation sucks that its missing for a rather silly action feature, but otherwise it's a highly poseable figure. I'm all about some "dirt" painted on, given that these guys aren't seemingly fresh recruits. I know I don't want green grunts in my army anyway... I'd rather have vets! :)
The #6 is still a damn fine figure. It's tough to find now at this point though. It's the year of the Clone folks. No doubt about it that they are the hot figure to buy.
I have only ONE WM left wiht Clones (TRU's still have them, but at a higher price), and the WM I have is a hick one with hardly any traffic. May pick a few of them up though. That and the Preview Wookiee have disappeared, and that sucks for the army builders out there who were trying to pace themselves. :-\ God knows I can't buy 30 figures at once! :(
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I'm holding out for #41, and from the looks of it, so are most people around here. I hear from everyone on the boards how #6 is scarce in their parts, but here in IA, you can find him everywhere.
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I still want # 41 but if you are an army builder #6 should do just fine I would think. Number 6 is probably going to be easier to locate as well. Unless Hasbro ups the number of them per case. LOL! Yeah, that would be the day.
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Agreed, I think the hoopla over #41 vs #6 isn't really anything to get excited about. Really when you look at the two above side by side, its even hard to tell which is which. The Right Shoulder is the most noticible asthetic difference and its a nice improvement
I seem to recall someone complaining about the pelvis size (due to the action feature) in #6 and its about the same as #41. It also looks like they have the same left arm.
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Just wanted to mention that the #41 SA Clone does NOT have the same body as the Clone Wars SA Clone Trooper. They may share the same legs, but that is it. The #41 Clone has a brand-new Torso, Belt, neck ball, and at least 1 arm is new.
Like Scott said, #41 Clone is much closer to #6 Clone in terms of Sculpt than to the Clone Wars SA Clone. And, the #41 Clone almost seems "taller" than the other Ep3 clones do. I think the ball-joint on #41's waist makes him slightly taller than the other Ep3 Clones because they just have the 1-peice torso.
However, the Target Clone Trooper is the Clone Wars SA body with an Ep3 Head. When you compare the Target Clone Trooper to the CW version, they are almost a perfect match. Same torso, arms, belt, etc. The only difference I can see if the head sculpt.
While playing around with my Clones last night, I have to admit that the Target one (based on the Clone Wars SA version) is much more "fun" than the #41 version. He has no goofy antenna sticking out of his back, his joints are a bit tighter, and his belt is much less "big" - if you look at Scott's picture you will see what I mean, #41 has a big belt!
I rank them like this:
#33 Clone Commander - wow!
Target Clone - great neutral sculpt
#06 Clone Trooper - non-intrusive action feature = OK with me
#38 AT-TE Gunner - his elbow joints are the only thing I don't like
#41 Clone Trooper - his antenna really bugs me for some reason
#34 Clone Pilot - somebody had to be last...
Just my $0.02 on the Clones...
Jeff
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I'd go with your rankings Jeff almost exactly, with the exception of the Non-Removable Visor on the Commander, he's the best of the bunch. #41 could have been better I guess
On a little bit related note, the EE Clones are Fan-freaking-tastic!
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A couple of questions:
1) The EE Clones shipped alreadY?
2) Any word on whether or not there will be clean and dirty versions of 41 shipping?
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Thanks for the comments (and pics) guys on the different clones. It sure is a clone-tastic year. I just about cancelled my EE order for those clones at the last minute, but now I'm glad I didn't. I just got one set, of colored/clean clones, but I'm looking forward to getting them (hopefully today). Sounds like no one has been disappointed with them, aside from the price.
As far as the ROTS offerings, we sure have/are getting a lot of nice clones this year, and I hope that continues. I'm really on the lookout for that Target clone, but I haven't seen any signs of it so far. I'd just like to get one at that price, but I like the different deco...and from what you guys have said, it sounds like it is a great figure overall too. The #6 Clone really is a nice figure too, especially considering it has an action feature. Still kind of tough to find around here, but one will pop up once in awhile, and I usually end up picking it up :). The Clone Commander is really cool, I just like the design and the figure overall. I'm really looking forward to that #41 Clone as well, hopefully it will start showing up around here soon. The Gunner is a nice figure too (only have 1), and the Pilot isn't bad either. Probably my least favorite of the bunch so far, but not a bad figure at all. I'm hoping we see a few more variations throughout this year, so we can get the greenish Kashyyyk clones, the blue ones that we see prominently in the trailer and other promotional stuff, and other different versions like Commander Cody, Neyo, etc.
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A couple of questions:
1) The EE Clones shipped alreadY?
2) Any word on whether or not there will be clean and dirty versions of 41 shipping?
1) Yes. They started shipping last week (I've already received mine).
2) No word on that, but with the antenna on their back, I'm guessing they are a specific type of clone from a specific planet or something...
Jeff
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The antenna is pretty easily removable and it actually doesn't look TOO horrible without it, there is a gap though on the back when its taken off :-[
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Heh... I love Clone #6.... Clone #41 is just about the same in my book. I have about 25 of the Clone Wars SA Clone, and It's not much better than the #6 ROTS Clone.
I have 20 of #6, and plan on getting about 20 of #41.
:P
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Yeah, those EE clones keep calling my name over and over again. I just wish they were not $35 a piece. If I buy them I can not just get one set and that's it. I would have to buy them all. That would mean no more ROTS stuff for me. I still want to get stuff like the Deluxe Vader with operation table, 500th Vader, ROTS vehicles, etc.
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If you can find two buddies to split a case with they come out to about 26 bucks a piece.
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Yeah, without a doubt the "by the case" route was best. Unless you had a lotta scratch though, it was tough to really "army build" with these because buying cases just for yourself isn't a great option financially, plus all those officers you got that you didn't necessarilly want.
I really would've loved to have found a buddy who only wanted officers and tons of them. :) Gone in on a case then, that would've been just too perfect, heh.
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Just wanted to mention that the #41 SA Clone does NOT have the same body as the Clone Wars SA Clone Trooper...
Like Scott said, #41 Clone is much closer to #6 Clone in terms of Sculpt than to the Clone Wars SA Clone...
However, the Target Clone Trooper is the Clone Wars SA body with an Ep3 Head...
Thanks for the great info Jeff! You answered a lot of questions I was going to pose.
My Canadian supplier of the EE clones has said they'll probably be another week or two before they arrive, but has assured me I'll get them. By the sounds of it, I won't be disappointed when they do arrive. :)
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I like these EE sets, although the "get one of each type" option isn't available right now. I'm sure that'll change soon.
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Thought I'd bump this topic to see what everyone thinks after we've had some time to find a couple of these (literally).
I hear some people prefer the #6 clonie because he doesn't have the antenna nor the battle damage.
I haven't had time to compare the two extensively, I just know the #6 clone has the quick draw action which may hinder specific poses.
But you certainly can't beat the 14 points of articulation on the SA clone, I will have to count the number of points good ol #6 has tonight....
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Overall, they are almost on even ground with me. I suppose I sort of like the #41 clone better because of the "super articulation", but the #6 one isn't that much worse in that department. Plus, it has the more "normal" appearance without the battle damage and antenna. I finally saw some #41s at retail last week, and did end up picking up another one. I have 4 of the #6 clones now, and 3 of the #41, and I think I will likely stop with that. Part of that being just because the white clones really didn't show up much in the movie, so the ones I have are enough for now. Overall, they are both nice figures, and I'm happy that we got these. Compared to the clones we got for AOTC (preview and red version), these are so much better. And to think that movie was actually called "Attack of the Clones" ;). With these two versions though, I don't think you can go wrong. Both are pretty nice figures.
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I really like the #41 for the articulation. I have him scaling a wall with the #33 Commander at the top helping him. Looks pretty cool! ;D
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Pics JediSearch Pics!
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I like both of these Clones. The #6 Clone was excellent and I would have been happy with just that offering, however I really like the #41 Clone as well. I would say that I like the #41 more than the #6 Clone, but that's only because of the lack of the action feature and the added articulation in his torso. My only (very minor) complaints with the #41 are the fact that you can see the neck-ball-joint for his neck as well as the addition of the antenna on the back (which seems pointless to me). I would have much rather had a removable helmet like the #38 or something like that. As it stands though, these clones are great and I recommend picking up lots of each if you haven't already (yeah right) :P
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^^ I actually like the ball joint neck on the #41, it makes the head easier to move. You can hardly move the head of the Target Clone.
I like both the #6 and #41, but I like 41 just a little bit better. Both are great, the #6s large shoulders and action feature are made up for with the ball joints and the inclusion of both Clone weapons. #41 loses points for not having the Rifle and having the antennae (sp?), but those are very minor flaws. IMO, both are great for army building, I currently have 5 #6 and 4 #41 (I'm a small army builder :p).
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I liked the #6 Clone and I knew that one would be easier to find the #41, so I bought ten of the first one.
I'd like ten of #41, but apparently so does everyone else, so it's not very easy to get ahold of.
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#41 is better overall but the helmet sculpt (face part) is better on #6. At least on most of them.
BTW, if I was king of Hasbro for a day I'd make every single Clone version that was in the movie in spades! That's right I'd make GOBS of them and suckers like me would brake their bank buying up every last blue and yellow stripped clone and I'd be waiting for the stores to open to get at the Shocktrooper version.
Blake
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How could I forget the shoulder pads on #6? They are a little too big and I don't care for the removable feature - too easy to lose.
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Pics JediSearch Pics!
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The "wall" just so happens to have grafitti that resembles the large BK cup. ;D
(http://www.armbrust.net/JediSearch/Customs/ScaleTheWall.jpg)
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I personally prefer #41, however...
He doesn't have the rifle. That's his one major drawback to me.
I love the Antenna... Every squad needs a comm specialist so that's what I use the Antenna for (every like 12th figure wears the apparatus). The articulation is superior, so I can pull some better poses. I think the sculpt looks better too.
That said, #6 shines in several ways... First, he does have the rifle (and the carbine), which makes him a great figure in and of itself. Second, his sculpt's not bad in the slightest... The shoulder pads look barely different than #41's if you ask me. Third, my #6 troops can pull off a kneeling pose better than any SA Trooper I own (VOTC Stormie included). Gotta have some guys take a knee in combat dioramas.
To me, I'm equally happy with the figures for different reasons... The battledamage on #41's doesn't bug me in the slightest either. It resembles light scratches to me. Clean grunts are nice too. I'd take 50 more of both I think... Then 50 of various unit colors/helmet designs as well.
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Cool pic JediSearch! 8)
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It's amazing how we can't get an ultimate clone. Both are very excellent, but both have features, all of which have been mentioned, that subtract from perfection. I'm just glad that both are good enough to do some army building with. If I have to give an edge, it's to #41 due to added articulation and slimmer shoulders.
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It's amazing how we can't get an ultimate clone. Both are very excellent, but both have features, all of which have been mentioned, that subtract from perfection. I'm just glad that both are good enough to do some army building with. If I have to give an edge, it's to #41 due to added articulation and slimmer shoulders.
Exactly, while the SA Clone is a great figure, it could be made better if it utilized aspects from other figures. Namely the inclusion of the long rifle that the QD Clone has, along with the ball-jointed hips that the AT-TE Gunner has. The latter especially since it would allow the SA Clone to kneel more properly as JJ mentioned.
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OK...I watched last night with much intensity
I did not see all white clones anywhere...the ones in the Coruscant Staging Area had Grey patches on the armor. The ones standing behind Mace and Obi might have been all white but it was tough to tell...anyone?
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There are clearly white clones dead on the ground as Obi Wan and Yoda walk the temple. Again, definitely white clones behind Mace and Yoda on the gunship. And lastly, at the deck canons during the space battle. Total screen time is roughly 10 seconds between all 3 scenes.
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The Gunnery crews in the space battle are what stand out to me... Hadn't thought of looking in the temple closely though...
Man I gotta go see that again... Just itchin' to go.
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OK...I watched last night with much intensity
I did not see all white clones anywhere...the ones in the Coruscant Staging Area had Grey patches on the armor. The ones standing behind Mace and Obi might have been all white but it was tough to tell...anyone?
Here's proof that there were white clones with the blue 501st at the temple. Dead white ones littering the floor:
(http://simonz.web.elte.hu/wallp/yodaobi-temple.jpg)