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Community => Other Toy Lines => Joe Defender => Topic started by: iFett on April 23, 2010, 12:29 PM
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There was a blurb on HISS about GI Joe Renegades. Possibly the title to the new Joe toon or maybe just the name of an episode for the new show...
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"G.I. Joe Renegades" (Hub Original Series) (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=68329&p=irol-newsArticleIR&ID=1427935&highlight=)
This action-packed animated series goes back to basics with the origins of G.I. JOE, the world's most elite fighting force, and their evil nemesis, the Cobra organization. Witness the emergence of the heroic G.I. JOE team as a cadre of highly-trained specialists who are forced to band together to prevent the nefarious forces of Cobra from achieving global domination. Produced by Hasbro Studios.
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Renegades SE (http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=10872) I sure hope one of those dogs isn't Timber. ;D
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Generally I like that style of animation, but have to admit that I'm not sure about Snake Eyes. I see what they went for, the pants kind of represent a gi and the rest is similar to his Resolute look only with the classic visor.
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Looks like this show starts on 10/10/10...Well a preview combined with TF Prime (at least)
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Anyone know when we're supposed to start seeing figures from this series?
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I think they come after w4 of POC....well I think :-\
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So... Spring 2011 then?
Hope to at least see some pics of what these will look like, along with vehicles, etc. I'm kinda excited.
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There has probably been newer info released on this, but I believe their original thought was Fall 2011. The POC line should be done somtime in late Spring and then they'll move on to Renegades.
My thought, just in time for season 2 of the cartoon to debut. If it makes it that far, I guess. I'm assuming since Hasbro is a partner in this network that even if nobody watches it, it'll still get at least 2 seasons worth of stuff on the air.
And, as an FYI, I don't get the Hub network and don't think there's an option available to me to get it. So, I won't be watching and by association, probably won't be buying any of the toys unless a vehicle comes out that looks cool. The figures, if they follow the animation closely, probably won't be of any use to me.
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Thanks for that info.
As for the Hub network, I don't think it has debuted yet? I thought 10/10/10 was the debut of it.
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I guess the switch from Discovery Kids will happen on
10/04... 10/10 ???
The Hub to Launch 10-10-10 with "Sneak Peek Sunday," Giving Viewers a First Look at the Network's Lineup for Kids and Their Families
Special Programming Lineup Will Offer Sampling of Original Series and U.S. Premieres
LOS ANGELES, Sep 28, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- On 10-10-10, U.S. audiences will get a first look at what The Hub, an all-new television network for kids and their families, has to offer. Debuting at 10 AM (ET), a special "Sneak Peek Sunday" will give viewers a preview of some of the new and entertaining programs they will see over the coming months. The Hub is a joint venture between Discovery Communications and Hasbro, Inc., and will be available to 60 million U.S. cable and satellite households upon launch.
During the network's first broadcast day, The Hub will give viewers a first look at the Hub Original Series "Family Game Night," "My Little Pony Friendship is Magic," and "Pound Puppies," as well as The Hub U.S. Premieres "Dennis and Gnasher," "The Twisted Whiskers Show," "Cosmic Quantum Ray," and "Deltora Quest." The schedule will be rounded out by a diverse slate of acquired animated and live-action programming.
"We're excited to give viewers a taste of what The Hub has to offer," said Margaret Loesch, President and CEO of The Hub. "With this lineup we hope to inspire, entertain, and engage kids, while also bringing families together. Sneak Peek Sunday offers a unique way to share a sampling of The Hub with our new viewers."
On October 4, viewers can log onto Hubworld.com (http://hubworld.com) to view The Hub's regular programming schedule which debuts Monday, October 11. During the network's launch rollout over the coming months, an ambitious slate of original series will debut on the network, including "Transformers Prime," "Dan Vs.," "G.I. Joe Renegades," "R.L. Stine's The Haunting Hour: The Series," "The Adventures of Chuck and Friends," and "Hubworld," among others.
The "Sneak Peek Sunday" schedule includes (all times Eastern):
10:00 AM: "The Twisted Whiskers Show"
10:30 AM: "Dennis And Gnasher"
11:00 AM: "Cosmic Quantum Ray"
11:30 AM: "Atomic Betty"
12:00 PM: Hub Family Movie: Garfield
2:00 PM: "Pound Puppies"
2:30 PM: "My Little Pony Friendship is Magic"
3:00 PM: "Strawberry Shortcake"
3:30 PM: "Fraggle Rock"
4:00 PM: "Cosmic Quantum Ray"
4:30 PM: "Deltora Quest"
5:00 PM: "Men In Black"
5:30 PM: "Batman Beyond"
6:00 PM: "Meerkat Manor"
6:30 PM: "The Twisted Whiskers Show"
7:00 PM: "Family Game Night"
8:00 PM: Hub Family Movie: Garfield
The Hub
The Hub, a multi-platform joint venture between Discovery Communications (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB, DISCK) and Hasbro, Inc. (NYSE: HAS), will entertain, enlighten, empower and educate children and their families. The cable and satellite television network will feature original programming as well as content from Discovery's library of award-winning children's educational programming; from Hasbro's rich portfolio of entertainment and educational properties built during the past 90 years; and from leading third-party producers worldwide. The Hub lineup will include animated and live-action series, specials and game shows, and the network will extend its content through a robust and engaging online presence. The Hub will launch October 10, 2010 (10-10-10), reaching approximately 60 million U.S. households on what is currently Discovery Kids channel. The online home of The Hub is http://www.hubworld.com. The Hub logo and name are trademarks of Hub Television Networks, LLC. All rights reserved.
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As for the Hub network, I don't think it has debuted yet? I thought 10/10/10 was the debut of it.
It hasn't debuted, but I was under the impression that it was replacing Discovery Kids on the network dial. Sort of how CW replaced UPN on most cable providers. I don't get DSCKids and don't think I have an option to, even by going to the digital package Time Warner offers in my town.
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I won't be getting the Hub either, but I'm sure I'll find a way to see this cartoon, just to see what all the fuss is about.
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We get Discovery Kids, so hopefully we'll be good to go with "the Hub" as well. I noticed on TV Guide's schedule, it looks like there is the classic Transformers/G.I. Joe block from 11-12 each night, which is cool. Sure, I have them all on DVD, but it is just cool that they are on TV again. I know - even before I kept up on a lot of this stuff - I always wondered why these types of animated series weren't shown on stations like Boomerang, etc. I know now that it is all right mumbo jumbo, but back when Boomerang was the only avenue for stuff like that, it seemed like a good match.
I'll check out the new show as well, hopefully it is good. Joe hasn't had a great track record since the original series ended for the most part.
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Looks like this show as well as TF Prime will air on Black Friday.....
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Anybody else watch this? I DVR'd the first two episodes and have only seen a few minutes of the first one...I actually kind of like the story line this time around; not too sure about the characterization for some of the Joes. I hate the animation style, though. But I reckon I'll keep watching it.
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Watched the first two episodes with my son... other than how they have Dr. Mindbender look, I enjoyed it all... I think he actually looks much more realistic than the 80s character though. Just wish he was a bit older in this, here he seems like a kid fresh out of high school.
Enjoyed how Flint was portrayed quite a bit too... and I thought all the Joes actually were fine. Same with the Cobras outside of Mindbender.
Overall though, I enjoyed it and my son was very entertained. Looking forward to seeing what the figures look like; hope they're not animated styling like the Clone Wars stuff.
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I only caught the Renegades/Prime intro since my DVR was feeling forgetful. Guess I have to wait till next week to check out the full episodes.
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I just finished watching it. They seem to be doing an A-Team type thing here. I like how Cobra is supposedly a good corporation like Cyberdyne. The animation style sucks though. The Baroness looks and sounds right. Mindbender needs to be older instead of some crazy high school kid. I'll keep watching it. I hope the toys don't look like the cartoon.
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I hope the toys don't look like the cartoon.
They won't. Hasbro already said they'd be in the realistic style, though I'd welcome a toon friendly Joe line personally...
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I've caught up now, and dammit, I like this show a lot more than I thought I would. Agreed on Mindbender being too young, but I guess in this day of Mark Zuckerbergs and whatnot, it's to be expected (though I still prefer the 80's Mindbender's S&M get-up). Baroness is ******* awesome. Hawk looks and sounds like a one-eyed James Carville (http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/james-carville.jpg), which I don't like too much, but he seems cool
I've always hated Duke and preferred Flint, but Flint's kind of a dick this time around. And they've made Snake Eyes a mysterious bad-ass, which is pretty much all it takes to make me happy. As long as the figures are stylized realistically, I'm in.
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Yeah, as long as they're realistic style, I would think I would like to get some of them. Though these days, almost all Joe purchases end up for my son anyway. :)
Also, the upcoming Shock Trooper seems to be very much in line with the Cobra troops that are seen in the Cobra facility in the first episode... I would assume that was intended.
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I watched GIJ: Renegades... I thought it was pretty good. Kind of Clone Warsy, in that they're trying to keep adult's attention with it. Dr. Mindbender's insanely lame though.
I'm not that into toons really, but I liked this enough to keep watching.
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I've caught up now, and dammit, I like this show a lot more than I thought I would. Agreed on Mindbender being too young, but I guess in this day of Mark Zuckerbergs and whatnot, it's to be expected (though I still prefer the 80's Mindbender's S&M get-up). Baroness is ******* awesome. Hawk looks and sounds like a one-eyed James Carville (http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/james-carville.jpg), which I don't like too much, but he seems cool
I've always hated Duke and preferred Flint, but Flint's kind of a dick this time around. And they've made Snake Eyes a mysterious bad-ass, which is pretty much all it takes to make me happy. As long as the figures are stylized realistically, I'm in.
I'm 100% in on the new series too... Liked it a lot more than I imagined that I would, actually.
Tunnel Rat was getting a snivit annoying though. Maybe just me, but I didn't like him a lot.
The whole Ripcord thing was weird... Does this open up a future red haired Rip Cord ala the RAH figure, or is he pretty much done?
Paul's surely upset at the facial hair on everyone... I can't blame him. :)
More Joes were seen than I first thought. I thought that I'd read that they were going to limit the number of characters, but I thought htey had a decent mix.
Also didn't like Mindbender. Put me in that camp. Not only his age, but I thought he was simply annoying... LIke Cobra's Tunnel Rat, only worse.
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I finally got a chance to watch these on our DVR yesterday, and I enjoyed the first two episodes as well. Looking forward to the next one today. Everything was pretty good I thought, although I also didn't care for this depiction of Dr. Mindbender.
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I hope they make Major Bludd's car. Bad ass.
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I hope they make Major Bludd's car. Bad ass.
agreed, Major Bludd's new interpretation is probably my favorite part of the show so far.
Mindbender is the worst, hopefully he will have some freak accident mutate him. Breaker being a nerdy college kid is pretty bad too...
Also wondering if they really off'ed Ripcord. I would be shocked if he is done for good. I figured he would be a major player given his character in ROC.
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So what does everyone think of the new series so far? I just caught up on last week's (Christmas Eve) two parter, and I think it has been pretty good so far. Definitely - I guess aside from the Resolute shorts - the most I've enjoyed Joe since the original series. Pretty good stuff, and I hope we see them continue to build the cast of characters as the show goes on.
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Have not seen a single episode. But really should watch. It seems to have enough buzz that it will drive the line in 2011. So I'd better get used to it.
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I haven't seen this yet mainly because I'm really not too interested for some reason - same with the new Transformers Prime toon. I think I have them DVR'd though so will watch in time.
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This new series is charming. I like that Dr. Mindbender is some punk kid, and I like how young everybody is.
Spoilers:
I'm guessing that Lady Jaye & Flint eventually become part of the Renegade group; maybe at the end of this season?
Not sure how long they can sustain this whole A-Team theme, what with the whole show being an arc and not particularly standalone.
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I haven't seen this yet mainly because I'm really not too interested for some reason - same with the new Transformers Prime toon. I think I have them DVR'd though so will watch in time.
same. I think I have watched about half of the GI Joe episodes and the other half are waiting to be watched. I am looking forward to seeing the Dreadnoks though - I am pretty sure they make their appearance in an episode.
Not to throw off the topic too much - but the Transformers only had 5 episodes, right? that is all my DVR caught at least. If that is the case - when will there be more? Haven't watched an episode of that yet.
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Great QnA answer today.
Glad to see there is at least 1 person on the other side of this hobby with a sense of humor and enjoys a good goof.
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Yeah, great to hear some more characters like that are coming to the series.
For the most part, I've liked this a lot. There's a few things I think are corny, like the big mech suits and the Bio Vipers, but the designs for the main characters and troops/etc. are good... no cheesy uniform colors, etc. Also humor in the right spots, etc. I do hope at some point we see some sort of a more classic Cobra trooper though... to me that is the one thing this series is really missing. But with Cobra being viewed by the public as a good company, of course it's a different storyline and the troops in this are more like security guards... at least for now.
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I enjoyed the answer too, and wasn't sure what we'd get back honestly since it was the first time letting us ask them anything. I'm not a big Heavy Duty guy, but I like seeing the other two lsited for sure. Airtight's too weird not to enjoy seeing named. :) I mean, I always considered him the HQ's maintenance guy sort of.
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Just 2 more?
I got 3 out of it.
snow job
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^^^ I saw that too when I read it earlier today. Not really excited about that one since we have seen countless releases of since the 25th line til now.
I am real excited about Airtight. I thought he was pretty cool when I had him as a kid, until my dog ate most of him... I never did get a new one to replace him so I would welcome this one.
great question - thanks for asking it.
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Hmmm, now I'm curious who I'm missing in the post... I'm seeing 3 clearly. 1 I can infer from the last bit, and kind of cool if it gets cold in the show. Is that what you're aiming at?
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Firefly is X-the-Eliminator with a fire fetish!
A bit different than expected. Better than their take on Zartan, though, which failed in my eyes.
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Sounds like Renegades (http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=9&itemid=17051) will be going on a hiatus after Season 1 ends. According to this article, new episodes will run into the summer, and then the show will go on hiatus while they work on the next GI Joe movie. Seems kind of strange, as the Transformers Prime series has been running all this time with a new TF movie on the way this summer. Oh well. I've watched it so far, and thought it has been pretty decent. Nothing will compare to the original to me really, and although I did like the Resolute movie more, I think this is probably be the best ongoing "series" since the original.
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Odd they are putting it on hiatus... I like it quite a bit (and a lot more than The Clone Wars)... my son also lives for this show right now, heh. But I do agree, the classic is the best (my son feels that way too).
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They don't want to create brand confusion by having 2 titles out at once... plus if GI JOE 2 is as bad as the first one, they don't need people saying "I'll just stay home and watch the Anime Joe, instead of the All black leather suits Live action sequel"
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Well, I think they will still have re-runs though, and the classic cartoon on. So there could still be a certain level of brand confusion... but yeah, I see your point. And I didn't think the first movie was that awful outside of the underwater sea battle and a lot of the acting by Duke. It certainly could have been a hell of a lot better though.
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I gotta call BS on the brand confusion thing. Transformers: Prime is still running (or at least being renewed) with a new movie coming out in the summer. I do agree that Hasbro probably wants to see how the next movie goes before they continue with other media. Personally, I don't see how having the cartoon at the same time as the movie could hurt.
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pretty disappointed here too - while it wasn't great I did enjoy watching it. I saw the potential as they continued to add characters and build on bad guys.
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Maybe Hasbro feels the movie line would look so different from the other stuff, they just want to focus their resources on one thing... who knows. But I do think all things considered, the ROC line rocked. Would have preferred a few more characters made like young Snake Eyes, young Storm Shadow, the President and Baroness as a blond prisoner, but overall, pretty good.
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I never even got around to watching a single episode so no love lost for me.
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I really like Renegades. This bums me out.
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I haven't seen any of the new cartoon because I don't get Hub network, and I haven't bothered to watch it online. However, I think it's kind of shady to drop a show because it may interfere with a live action film that, as far as I know, doesn't even have a script yet!
The toys, on the other hand, are a little different. Where Star Wars can support both movie and animated toy lines, I don't think the base is there to do that with Joe. I could see Hasbro not wanting to divide the market when the inevitable toy line hits for the film, but that shouldn't have an impact on the cartoon. I don't see any of the the Marvel or DC comics and/or toys suddenly stopping production because there's a big screen film of their main characters about to open. ****, it would have been a GOOD thing for Marvel to have Hasbro stop putting Iron Man figures in the MU line while the IM2 line was in full swing, but they didn't.
And maybe I'm wrong on this, but it seems that of the boy toy lines Hasbro actually owns, Joe and Transformers are the two best suited to a cartoon. Why would you create an entire network and then put one of your best options for a show on hiatus? Bad ratings, maybe, but since you own the damn network, I'd think you'd take more than one season to try and build a fan base. I'm trying to think, but other than maybe in the comics or on the toys, I don't believe I've seen any advertising for the cartoon...maybe Hasbro should spend a couple bucks on promotion.
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I only saw the first episode online and wasn't all that impressed, so this is whatever. I do however think it's crazy to put all their eggs in the live-action movie basket, since worked out for them so well last time. ::)
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It is probably a combination of things (quality of movies/toons, changing interests and short attention spans, and younger kids getting into video games/computers/etc.), but it just seems like G.I. Joe hasn't caught on with the kids of this generation - at least for the most part. I know there are likely some (I know our nephews were into it for a bit - but moreso the 25th anniversary stuff than the movie stuff, due to both their dad and myself), but overall it just doesn't seem that most kids care all that much. Transformers, on the other hand, seems to have both stuck on with older collectors and brought in some kids along the way as well (particularly with the movie, but I think the toons have done decently well too). I don't know what it is about Joe that it hasn't caught on as much (maybe due to many factors), because it was every bit as huge - if not more so, at least in my group of friends - as Transformers when I was a kid.
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I think maybe Hasbro needs to go back to basics with the Joes. There was something magical about the early 1980s stuff that is still awesome... my son is almost 4, and he's obsessed with it. Having a dad though who supports it like me definitely fuels some of that though.
However, when his friends come over, they want to play GI Joe all day and night. But they really aren't familiar with many of the characters other than Duke, Snake Eyes, Cobra Commander and Storm Shadow. But when they watch the old cartoon, they really seem to enjoy it... I'm wondering it being on The Hub network is going to help drive more interest in the classic stuff with the kids... I think that it might help some.
And since POC hit retail, it moves very well. I don't really see any backup at all, which is surprising. I think the only figure I'd really classify as a drag would be the Polar Destro. Everything else really moves pretty well, even restocks of Wave One and this is across all retailers. And I do see some kids getting that stuff too, so I think the brand has gained some popularity with the younger generation the past year or so.
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Thought I'd bump this to mention that I noticed the availability of this show on Netfix streaming. I can FINALLY catch up on the last few episodes I missed!
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I think maybe Hasbro needs to go back to basics with the Joes. There was something magical about the early 1980s stuff that is still awesome...
I could not agree more with this. They totally missed the boat with their last two animated endeavors. Resolute, as cool as it may have been for the dorky adult fans who want everything Nolanized and gritty, sure didn't gain any kid viewers. While softer, Renegades required way too much to follow and took too long to introduce other Joes for most kids. When there were introductions of guys like Airtight or Breaker or Shipwreck, they were essentially glorified cameos.
My kid is 8 and he watched almost every episode of Renegades with me, but he vastly prefers the old school cartoons. There's a very simple formula, and with the exception of a few two parters or mini-series things, it all gets wrapped up in a single episode where a few key good guys fight a few key bad guys. That **** works.
I watch the old toons all the time, and they're brilliant 30 minute commercials that highlight a few main staples (e.g. Snake Eyes, Duke, Scarlett, etc.), but give everybody else a chance to shine, which makes you want to go out and add that guy to your collection. Giving the characters distinct personalities, even if they were stereotypes, was brilliant.
If they'd go back to basics, I think the line could do extremely well with kids as well as adult collectors.
Marvel's doing a wonderful job of this with its Avengers cartoon, by the way.
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Yeah, my son is almost 5, and he watched Renegades, but is obsessed with the old Joe cartoon. And those toys too... he'll watch the old Joe stuff over any other cartoon series.
He also prefers the Season 1 (old school blue Cobra designs) to the Season 2 (Serpentor era) stuff. But he likes both Season 1 and Season 2 Joe designs.
It's really fun having a little boy who is already a diehard. He's been into this since I first gave him a Cobra Commander figure when he was 2-1/2 years old, he held it and said, "My Commander! My Commander!"
What a great memory. :)
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I only found out there WAS a renegades series of cartoons by following teh action figures iv enever seen any kind of ad or anything about it
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And I think that was a huge misstep by Hasbro. I read several of the GI Joe news sites and I was at the 2010 GI Joe Con where they were talking about the show, but otherwise, I didn't see any advertising about it either until the figures came out.
I know Hasbro was trying to kick off their new network and a great way to do that is leverage all your top properties, but when your network isn't really available in that many households you're gonna have a problem.
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Agreed. It is too bad though, because I think the show is really good. The writing isn't as "adult" as Resolute was, but it is a notch better than the ARAH stuff. I love the art style too. I have a few episodes left and I will be sad to be finished with it.
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The series finale on Netflix is not the same series finale that was broadcast...I mean, at least not the "very special ending."
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I thought I read something about that. I just saw it on YouTube and it is pretty funny, but hopefully it means that they will continue this in some way as has been rumored. I really liked this show.