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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Black Series 3.75" => Topic started by: Jeff on September 25, 2014, 11:29 AM
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I'll be attending NYCC this year, including Hasbro's 'Twas the Night Before party on Wednesday October 8th, so I thought I'd start up a thread...
The Hasbro party invite is promising "new reveals" for Star Wars - sure hope that means NEW new reveals and not just stuff they've already teased or shown in press pics. :P
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My guess we'll finally see the new 6" C-3PO and Emperor, the 3-3/4" "Rancor Pit" set, maybe 2-3 of the 3-3/4" figures that were rumored a while back.
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Is it too early for an Episode VII figure preview?
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Probably. But since Episode VII is being released in December '15 as opposed to May, it does throw off the sort of release schedule that we're used to. IIRC the ROTS preview figures came out around late February or early March of 2005. And then the main ROTS line started getting released about 1 month before the movie. Given that history? I would think that an Episode VII preview would come out around the time of SDCC 2015 or Star Wars Celebration. The full line would probably follow some time around October 2015.
There's also JJ Abrams to consider. He seems to have brought a much greater level of secrecy to the Episode VII production than we saw during the prequels. And a lot of the quotes that I've seen coming from the cast have stated that they and JJ Abrams want to preserve that element of surprise with this movie. The possibility of a preview figure(s) might fly in the face of that level of secrecy. I get the feeling that the LFL licensing people and Hasbro would like the opportunity to cash in on preview merch, but if the ethos of secrecy is making it's way throughout the Disney/LFL organization, then I think it's likely that any preview items might be limited to characters we already know.
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The possibility of a preview figure(s) might fly in the face of that level of secrecy. I get the feeling that the LFL licensing people and Hasbro would like the opportunity to cash in on preview merch, but if the ethos of secrecy is making it's way throughout the Disney/LFL organization, then I think it's likely that any preview items might be limited to characters we already know.
Yeah, they could do a "Jedi Master Luke" or "Old Han Solo" figure as a preview pretty easy without spoiling any of the new characters... Even a Ep7 Stormtrooper wouldn't too big a spoiler.
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Agreed. I think that's pretty safe territory in terms of character selection.
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There's no way we see any Episode VII product before Toy Fair, and even then I doubt we see anything juicy until SDCC. I'm assuming NYCC will only show us all of the filler we'll get between now and the Episode VII line release.
As for Sneak Preview figures, I don't recall any of them being too spoiler-ish. We got a major character for each movie (Windu, Jango, Grievous), an army builder (Clone, Wookiee), a minor character (Zam, Utapau guy), and an astromech, and the figures were pretty basic for the most part. I don't see why Hasbro wouldn't stick to the same formula.
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The only thing that I remember having major spoilers was the CD soundtrack with the track names (Qui-Gon's Funeral) that was released early.
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Is Hasbro doing a Q&A? I'd like to inform Hasbro about Funko's 6" GoT Legacy figures as a guide. It's similar to the SW one, except for the exclusives. The SDCC Tyrion is being offered at Target now. Would Hasbro consider releasing Carbonite Han and Mr. Crumb on regular cards or store exclusives? It seems like a waste of sculpt and molds to not release it into the general public.
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Is Hasbro doing a Q&A?
All they have confirmed so far is that there will be new product on display. There has been no confirmation yet on who (if anyone) from Hasbro's Star Wars team will be there.
If it's just Hasbro's PR group and no one from the Star Wars team is there, I doubt any sort of Q&A will be worthwhile. If Star Wars guys show up, then I'm sure we'll be asking them some things.
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From what I understand there are still some tickets available for Thursday. I may try to go, but it's still up in the air for me. Seeing new product in person is always very cool, but a show like NYCC can get really expensive in a hurry.
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Just a reminder the #HasbroParty is tonight!
I'll be tweeting from the event via my @jlsmentek twitter account, but I'll make sure to retweet them on the @jedidefender account as well!
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Saw this revealed at the NYCC Hasbro party via the Yakface Facebook page:
THE BLACK SERIES 3.75" BASIC FIGURES
New figures which include: (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152493303126799)
-Mosep Bineed
-Leia in Boussh disguise
-Jawa 2-pack
-C-3PO
-Han Solo w/ Carbonite block
THE BLACK SERIES 6" FIGURES
Clone Trooper Captain (Phase I armor)
The Emporer, Leia in Boussh disguise & IG-88 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152493324416799)
Clone Commander Cody, Luke Skywalker and Han Solo in Stormtrooper disguises (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152493327976799)
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Those all look nice, really want to see That new Leia head sculpt up close, looks vastly superior to the last one.
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Looks like a RotS Palpatine in the pics. I'd prefer one that looked like the older Jedi version... and as someone pointed out on Yak, where's the force lightning?
But I really like the Bousshs, Han in carbonite, and Mosep. as well as 6" IG-88, Stormie Luke and Han. I'm really excited about these.
Is the 4" 3-PO the TVC version with the parts glued on?
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This Threepio is just a reissue of VC06, correct?
(http://i.imgur.com/YiCzkyil.jpg)
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Looks like a RotS Palpatine in the pics. I'd prefer one that looked like the older Jedi version... and as someone pointed out on Yak, where's the force lightning?
The deco looks much more like a ROTJ Palpatine from looking at this picture (https://twitter.com/The_Shipyards/status/519984280211296256/photo/1). The cane was more a ROTJ accessory, not ROTS.
But my oh my! I am just pleased as can be about Leia in Boussh disguise and Han Solo in carbonite!!!!!!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzdhQfXIYAAW0m3.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzdhJRiIIAAngVd.jpg)
Good pics, Jeff! And thanks!!!
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I'm guessing by the photos I've seen from Jeff so far that the 3PO is a Build-A-Droid one. It's definitely looking to use that type of plastic, which usually means articulation. Otherwise I think it'd be chromed.
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Nick, I was going by the head-sculpt for Palpy. Hopefully it's the lighting, but there's something about the prequel head-sculpt that just doesn't synch with the Jedi version for me. Kind of like OT Yoda's head looks cooler to me than the PT one. Isn't the robe a little short, too? I thought it was full length. Seems like it stops at the knee. Or maybe I never noticed that his outer robe was shorter?
Not to want to sound negative on the one figure, that 6" Boussh is amazing for the headsculpt. It's really going to be hard to know which way I'll display it, helmet-wise. One of my favorite figures and getting her in both lines!
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This Threepio is just a reissue of VC06, correct?
It's a bit tiny bit of a kitbash, but the base (90%) is the TVC 3PO, yeah. Definitely the dud of the wave... but Mosep and New Han and New Boussh and new Jawas make me not really care if he sucks. ;)
Back at the hotel now and working on the nicer pics from my Nikon (though my iPhone did pretty good for the twitter stuff).
I was so tempted to just grab that Han and run... :-[
Oh and the Carbonite Block. Just awesome... detail on the side panels was great (but... it is a hand painted proto so the final probably won't be so nice :().
ps - I apologize to the 6" collectors because after looking through my pics, I definitely was way more interested taking pics of the 3.75" stuff. :-X
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Those Jawas looked huge in the pics, haha. I'm still confused on those.
I've wanted a new Han Carbo and Mosep for eons, so I'm giddy.
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Good stuff. I can't say I'm excited for some stuff like Boussh but then it's been 9 years since the last one and I forget it isn't fully SA. Loving the Han and Mosep!
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Our Hasbro image galleries are going live... I put up some Marvel and Transformers stuff too, but since I know very little about those lines anymore, I really had no idea what was new or old or whatever. Clicky the button below to check them out!
(http://jedidefender.com/images/NYCC2014/tn_nycc_2014_hasbro_party.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/New_York_Comic_Con_2014/Hasbro/Twas_the_Night_Before_Party)
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This Threepio is just a reissue of VC06, correct?
It's a bit tiny bit of a kitbash, but the base (90%) is the TVC 3PO, yeah. Definitely the dud of the wave...
You can get a better look at 3PO (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/New_York_Comic_Con_2014/Hasbro/Twas_the_Night_Before_Party/Star_Wars/DSC_0671.JPG) in our image database now.
You can see the glued on panels there, but without my TVC 3PO to reference, I couldn't tell you what the "new parts" they said he had were...
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So would you say the Jawas are 3.75" scale or 6" scale, Jeff?
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I really, really, really hope the final product turns out as nice as the hard copy on hand tonight... the block, the binders, the articulation. :-*
(http://jedidefender.com/news/images/2014_10/carbonitehan.jpg)
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(http://yakfaceforums.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/B1758_SW_EPV_HanSolo_Carbonite_Orange.jpg)
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So would you say the Jawas are 3.75" scale or 6" scale, Jeff?
They are suposed to be 3.75" scale. They are a little on the tall side, but they were definitely intended to be a 3.75" product.
As was pointed out on the JD Twitter, they work for the "tall Jawas" at the Lars' homestead scene:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzeQcbzCQAAvCHY.jpg)
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It's a bit tiny bit of a kitbash, but the base (90%) is the TVC 3PO, yeah. Definitely the dud of the wave...
You can get a better look at 3PO (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/New_York_Comic_Con_2014/Hasbro/Twas_the_Night_Before_Party/Star_Wars/DSC_0671.JPG) in our image database now.
You can see the glued on panels there, but without my TVC 3PO to reference, I couldn't tell you what the "new parts" they said he had were...
Awesome. Thanks for the clarification and photos. Kinda weak that they're re-releasing this one but I expect we'll see an all-new Threepio for the Episode VII launch. Hopefully his appearance hasn't changed that much...
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I just compared my 3PO to the pic Jeff, and I see nothing new on them off-hand... The paint is a tad different but that's about it, and not unexpected on a proto.
I'd say he's definitely the forgettable figure.
Can't wait for a couple Han's... Gantry, thaw, Skiff fighting, etc.
I want to custom up that block to light up too. Looks difficult, but doable.
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I would be okay with this "re-release" of 3PO if they have perfected being able to take him COMPLETELY apart like when he's blasted apart on Bespin. You can get close with TVC figure, but there were limitations.
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So would you say the Jawas are 3.75" scale or 6" scale, Jeff?
They are suposed to be 3.75" scale. They are a little on the tall side, but they were definitely intended to be a 3.75" product.
As was pointed out on the JD Twitter, they work for the "tall Jawas" at the Lars' homestead scene:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzeQcbzCQAAvCHY.jpg)
Ah. I know there had been some rumors circulating about the possibility of a TBS 6" Jawa 2-pack, and I thought it was a possibility that these Jawas might be part of that set.
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Yeah that was my first thought when I saw them because at least in the pics they seem huge compared to 3-PO. If they're tall Jawas, cool. I think they're great and look forward to buying lots of them. I do hope we see them in the 6 inch line though.
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I like the Jaws and the Leia, I need that Han Solo for my Bespin shelf!
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The Jawas look great, I just find their height kind of odd. I'm definitely a Mosep and Han Carbo guy though, with Leia a close 3rd... The Jawas come in 4th, and 3PO isn't even on the radar at this point. :(
The Jawas featuring two updated blaster (POTF2 and the accurate ion blaster), and the little POTF2 pistols got updated too, I like those kinds of touches. Much like Ree Yees getting updated POTF2 blasters.
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Overall, I'm pretty happy with what was shown at NYCC. Not a huge showing, once again, but it really hasn't been for awhile now. Honestly, it almost seemed like as much was shown here as was at SDCC. The 3 3/4" Black Series stuff is really nice, I'm especially excited for the new Carbonite Han. The Leia Boussh looks really nice too, although I was pretty happy with the TSC version. The Jawas are cool, as well as 3PO, and of course Mosep.
The 6" stuff had a nice showing again, with the IG-88, Boussh Leia, Luke/Han Stormie, Emperor, etc. all looking pretty nice. Nothing else shown for the deluxe sets, but we do already know about the Taun Taun and Wampa sets.
Honestly, what I was sort of surprised by was the Mission Series and Saga Legends stuff. Now, like most, I'd prefer more articulation than what these offer, but I thought the new stuff looked kind of cool. I have picked up all the OT based ones so far, and will continue to I think, and the new stuff looked neat. Bespin Han, the Luke/Leia set, the Hoth set, and Yoda/R2 all looked nice. Like it was already mentioned, I think that Yoda might almost look better than the recent Black Series release (although we haven't seen a final copy yet). I often think, if this is what came out with the POTF2 release in 1995, people would have been blown away.
I knew we likely wouldn't get any Ep7 reveals yet, but I am a little curious about the future. I noticed in the little Avengers preview for the next movie, they seem to be taking the same 6" collectors figures and 2.5" figure and vehicle line approach they did with Guardians. Since Hasbro often likes to cookie cutter the lines a bit, I sure hope we don't see that approach with the new SW movies. The 6" figures are great, but 3 3/4" is always the bread and butter for SW I think. Even if they go with the 5 POA style (which I hope we get more than that), at least it would continue that scale.
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I've always hated that hand on the Saga Leia Boussh, or I'd agree. She doesn't do much of course, but at the same time there's few Leia looks that are as cool, so I'm glad they re-did her. BTW we'd been hinting since last year that there was a new Leia coming... this is she. I didn't expect a 6" one too, but this is one that has been on Hasbro's radar to improve (the hand bugged them too) for well over a year. ;)
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BTW we'd been hinting since last year that there was a new Leia coming... this is she.
Along with Endor Celebration Leia and the MS ANH Princess Leia (sigh... why can't it be the Black Series, too).
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This is the only one we'd heard about... I thought it weird at the time, but was trusted source (same one that told us about Fett/Carbo Han for SDCC). I'm pleased, but I figured (at the time) they'd not update TSC Boussh Leia.
Then they did Ceremony Luke and I knew anything was on the table. :P
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Yeah, I've been so busy at work this week I haven't had time to catch up on all the news, but it does some like a pretty fair showing.
I still think it's a little odd we haven't gotten a glimpse of 6" 3PO, seeing as how he has been rumored for so long. Makes me wonder if they are struggling with the VAC metal apps or something.
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I read the Q&A session from Imperial Shipyards, and Hasbro said that the 6" C-3PO was being delayed by some challenges with the paint apps. It won't be vac metallized, but it will feature gold paint.
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The Jawas look great, I just find their height kind of odd.
They seem a little tall, but they're not that bad. There are tall compared to C-3PO who was right next to them, but he was a little small which just makes the Jawas look taller I guess. In person they're really not that bad.
3 3/4" is always the bread and butter for SW I think. Even if they go with the 5 POA style (which I hope we get more than that), at least it would continue that scale.
I think it is safe to say that zero 3.75" for Star Wars is never going to happen. Whether they go strictly 5POA or try to keep both 5POA and collector lines remains to be seen I guess.
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Han Carbonite-related: I never noticed this until Adywan fixed it last year for his ESB: Revisited (http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/han-in-carbonite-shirt-fix/).
(http://i.imgur.com/7XOFChql.jpg)
You can see in Picture A that Han is wearing his classic A New Hope low cut shirt. In most of Empire Strikes Back, Han is seen wearing the shirt shown in Picture B, with the flap. This is what he is wearing when he is frozen. However, when the prop makers made the life-sized cast of frozen Han (Picture C), they didn’t have access to the new wardrobe yet, so they sculpted his low cut shirt from A New Hope (the face is Harrison’s though, of which Adywan has a cast of also). Picture D shows that Han is wearing his flapped shirt when he is unfrozen in Return of the Jedi.
So Adywan is making a flapped shirt model to replace the close up shots when the low cut shirt can be seen. It may seem like a lot of work for something so small, but Adywan wasn’t about to let something like that go by without trying to fix it.
Adywan's fix in-progress:
(http://i.imgur.com/cwxizUQl.jpg)
This was achieved by making the front section of the shirt in cotton and then dipping in resin and applying to the body and then shaped to give the wrinkles. Hollow areas were then filled and it was then given a light coat of resin.
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All are nice choices and look just great. Loving that their waves seem to favor having companion pieces like the Han Carbonite and Leia Boussh in this one. With the re-issues, it'd be nice to see the Rebel Soldier (Echo Base Gear) out there again, though.
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Carbonite Han and Boush Leia hide knee articulations perfectly on 3.75 inches scale.
I wonder if Mossep skirt has a slot at the side to let him seat on a playset.
The 6 inches line is refreshed with Luke stormtrooper and Leia Boush; in certain way that would be the best face sculpt for
the last Slave Leia.
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I wonder if Mossep skirt has a slot at the side to let him seat on a playset.
I guess you didn't look through our image gallery (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/New_York_Comic_Con_2014/Hasbro/Twas_the_Night_Before_Party/Star_Wars). ;)
I took a shot of his skirt to show there was no cut and to highlight how well they hid the knee joints on Han and Mosep and Boushh. That little bit of extra plastic on the front hides the knee joint so well on all three figures.
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The new 6¨Emperor Palpatine spots a frown visage, and wider face than previous versions.
Yoda 6 inches was closer to a neutral face sculpt; while they nailed that gesture on saga legends 2 pack.
The case of Boushh Leia, both 6 and 3.75 is that they achieved the casual look of young Carrie, a better
eyes makeup, and that ideal of determination glance for a hero or heroine.
Its crucial for her appearence how her sculpted lock of hair on her forehead softens her expression.
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So do we know if the phase II Shock Trooper commander that was shown at NYCC is Commander Thire or Commander Thorn?
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So do we know if the phase II Shock Trooper commander that was shown at NYCC is Commander Thire or Commander Thorn?
The Hasbro press photo was named B1061SW_CW_Clone_Command_Thorn.jpg, so Thorn it is.