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Title: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: jedipurge on January 23, 2009, 05:28 PM
http://jediinsider.net/g/index.php?mode=view&album=Hasbro%2FClone_Wars%2FArc-170_02&pic=Arc-170.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0

Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: iFett on January 23, 2009, 05:41 PM
Pretty.  Not buying though.  Have enough of these things.  Looks like Hasbro just opened the door to another slew of prequel repaints.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 23, 2009, 05:49 PM
What's next....Imperial Gunship?
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Jesse James on January 23, 2009, 05:52 PM
I'd ahve liked a (film accurate even) V-Wing in IMperial deco before they dipped into "we made this **** up" territory.   :-\
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 23, 2009, 05:53 PM
I didn't need to see that. I have enough ARC 170s, but I am a huge sucker for Republic vehicles turned sterile matte colors by the Empire. I don't know how I'm not going to need one of these.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Rob on January 23, 2009, 06:53 PM
I really hope that doesn't come with some Pack-in I need to track down.   :-[
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Jayson on January 23, 2009, 07:08 PM
Barf. Bank on a similarly colored Gunship before the year's over.  ::)
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Greg on January 23, 2009, 07:49 PM
I really hope that doesn't come with some Pack-in I need to track down.   :-[

You should be alright... they (Hasbro) haven't been known to pack figures with the Gunships/170s and I doubt they'll start now. But then again, TRU is getting those exclusive $20 range vehicles with pack-in figures, so you never know.  ;)
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 23, 2009, 08:48 PM
I didn't need to see that. I have enough ARC 170s, but I am a huge sucker for Republic vehicles turned sterile matte colors by the Empire. I don't know how I'm not going to need one of these.

I really hope that doesn't come with some Pack-in I need to track down.   :-[

And we now have found Hasbro's market for these items.

BTW, Jesse, I agree I think an Imperial style V-wing would have made more sense as a first forray into this type of item.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 24, 2009, 10:21 AM
What's the story on this? What's the source material?

Bottom line, this is going too far.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: DoctorPadawan on January 24, 2009, 11:17 AM
What's the story on this? What's the source material?

Hasbro wants money without actually having to design something interesting.  See also: endless GI Joe and Transformers repaints.

I have to wonder if they're going to raise the price on the ARC-170 again this time.  Either way, they can keep it.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Rob on January 24, 2009, 11:34 AM
Hasbro wants money without actually having to design something interesting.

Sure, but in fairness in the last year we got a gigantic Falcon, a massive AT-TE, with a Clone Turbo Tank and potentially a Sail Barge on the horizon.

Maybe this garbage is to offset the costs of the really solid stuff they're doing from scratch?
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Diddly on January 24, 2009, 12:22 PM
Yay, more exclusive crap that will sit on shelves.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Nicklab on January 24, 2009, 01:14 PM
I sincerely hope that this is NOT part of the $65 Deluxe vehicle offering.  I know that the TRU ARC-170 was $45, but my suspicious nature is warning me about this.  Wondering if the folks who got the Target DPCI's can check this out.

I think the Imperial markings are interesting.  But really, if Hasbro was gonna go in that direction I would have liked to have seen the V-Wing first.  It at least got screen time in that deco.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: iFett on January 24, 2009, 05:56 PM
I sincerely hope that this is NOT part of the $65 Deluxe vehicle offering.

I highly doubt this unless they're throwing in a bunch of figures/accessories.  This thing sold for $29.99 a few years back.  I know the economy sucks ass right now, but that's no need for a 100%+ markup.  I really see the Twighlight at that pricepoint.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 25, 2009, 09:58 AM


Maybe this garbage is to offset the costs of the really solid stuff they're doing from scratch?

Maybe, but it's doing me a favor over Hasbro. It's curing me of completitis.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Rob on January 25, 2009, 05:42 PM
Isn't it grand?

Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Nicklab on January 25, 2009, 05:51 PM
The closest ARC-170 paintscheme that I've been able to find is this version from the Dark Horse DARK TIMES title:

(http://www.bothan-online.com/IMG/jpg/Darktimes2_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Phrubruh on January 25, 2009, 07:13 PM
I guess this is a way to always keep a certain toy on the market and make it seem fresh to any kids that don't have an ARC170.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: DSJ™ on January 26, 2009, 08:58 AM
Looks like this is a Clone Wars fighter.

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Random/ClonesARC-170Fighter.jpg)

Credit: actionfigurenews.ca (http://www.actionfigurenews.ca/index.php)
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Darth Broem on January 26, 2009, 09:07 AM
Ok, now it makes some sense.   
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 26, 2009, 09:13 AM
Agreed, and even easier to pass up on now.
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: Brian on January 26, 2009, 09:18 AM
I'll be passing too, but I have to admit - repaint aspect aside - it does look kind of neat.  With display space at a premium, its too difficult to pick up a bunch of repaints at this point.  The ARC is one of my favorite vehicles though, and quite well done.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 26, 2009, 10:07 AM
Exact opposite for me. The box with the Death Star skeleton and the fact that it is a Clone ship when they are helping hunt the Jedi instead of when they are with the Jedi makes me want it. I need someone to talk me out of it because I can't afford it.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 26, 2009, 11:21 AM
Okay for one this is continuity SCREWED!

While I don't know if there will be a cartoon to explain this I'm still going to rant on this.

1. AOTC clones would not have been piloting an ARC in this deco. If anything it would have been the same or very similar deco as in ROTS sine the AOTC clones are BEFORE, not AFTER ROTS.
2. The Death Star was not known to the Republic at the time (at least as far as we've been told so far). So again only seperatists would have known about it, up until ROTS which again is after the (pictured on the box) AOTC clones.

While I think it is a very cool repaint, I can readily say I'm NOT buying this. Not seen in the movies, all out of continuity, and made up. Three strikes, it's OUT.

Sorry Hasbro, you have got to make NEW crap to get my money. Not some rehashed repaint that has not basis.

I'm getting older, poorer, and have less room for this stuff. Make what we WANT and get to it quickly. These economic times mean that we are already buying less. While I understand this will save YOU (Hasbro) money by reissuing a simple repaint, it's not going to save you if the toy doesn't move.

Just take a quick look here in this thread. A very high percentage of us do not want or plan to buy this thing. As was stated before, give us the Imperial deco V-wing. Heck that was at least SEEN in the movie and it fits with your repaint criteria.

You're only shooting yourselves in the foot here Hasbro. While new (never before made in any iteration) toys may be less cost effective for you, if you plan on selling to we long time collectors and supporters of the line, you'll need to do that or risk running this wonderful line into the ground further than what the "economic downturn" has already and will continue to do.


Respectfully submitted.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Ryan on January 26, 2009, 06:21 PM
The clones pilots pictured in the box art are ROTS era pilots. I think that the AOTC clones in the corner must just be part of the Clone Wars packaging and they don't signify the era or anything like that. I'd assume that this is supposed to be a post ROTS era ship.

Still this is a very easy pass. I haven't picked up any of the ARC repaints, so I have no reason to start now. I'll gladly save my money and space on this one.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JDH1173 on January 26, 2009, 08:47 PM
I like the color and such and I have always liked the ARC.  I have the ROTS and the Tiger Shark repaint. Problem #1: running out of space. #2: No money until I get steady work rolling again.  Tempting on the clearance shelf though. :P
Title: Re: Imperial ARC-170
Post by: vupa0101 on January 26, 2009, 09:30 PM
The closest ARC-170 paintscheme that I've been able to find is this version from the Dark Horse DARK TIMES title:

(http://www.bothan-online.com/IMG/jpg/Darktimes2_3.jpg)

cool what kinda ships are those?
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: David on January 26, 2009, 10:29 PM
I really like this paint scheme, I might buy this one. :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on January 27, 2009, 10:57 AM
I like the box.....might buy it now.  Hopefully there's some logs in there.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JediJman on January 27, 2009, 01:47 PM
I like the box.....might buy it now.  Hopefully there's some logs in there.

Some logs in where?  What?  Stop drinking at work.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2009, 09:42 AM
I see this is up for preorder at BBTS, but the price is $74.99.  I wonder if this is exclusive (which I guess is likely since it doesn't fit into the $20 pricepoint assortment).  Otherwise, that's pretty pricey for a regular release.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 29, 2009, 11:00 AM
I see this is up for preorder at BBTS, but the price is $74.99.  I wonder if this is exclusive (which I guess is likely since it doesn't fit into the $20 pricepoint assortment).  Otherwise, that's pretty pricey for a regular release.

$75??? What the heck kinda price is that? I hope that's right though because then I WON'T be tempted to buy it any more.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Ben on January 30, 2009, 12:54 AM
I wasn't going to buy it anyway, but I'm just curious as to how something that I bought for $35 in 2005 when it was a brand-new mold has now doubled in price.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Brian on January 30, 2009, 09:06 AM
I wasn't going to buy it anyway, but I'm just curious as to how something that I bought for $35 in 2005 when it was a brand-new mold has now doubled in price.

That's the same thing I was thinking.  I see other places (like EE, etc.) have it listed for that price as well, I wonder why its so expensive.  Sure, its probably some sort of exclusive, but still - more than doubled in price since the 2005 release?  That's pretty ridiculous.  I'm glad I picked up the ROTS version :).
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 30, 2009, 09:09 AM
$75? Wow. I'm glad I wasn't even thinking about getting this one.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: ruiner on January 30, 2009, 09:18 AM
I'm sure it'll be $50 at retail. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: DSJ™ on January 30, 2009, 09:18 AM
$75. is quite a bit high, good thing I don't collect modern anymore.  :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Nicklab on January 30, 2009, 10:03 AM
I see this is up for preorder at BBTS, but the price is $74.99.  I wonder if this is exclusive (which I guess is likely since it doesn't fit into the $20 pricepoint assortment).  Otherwise, that's pretty pricey for a regular release.


Looks like my concerns are confirmed by this.  The $65 Deluxe vehicle in the Target computer seems much more likely to be the ARC-170 and whatever else is in a similarly sized box.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 30, 2009, 10:09 AM
Like I said before, easy pass. It's a frickin' redeco! And not even substantiated in the movies. This is coming out of WAY left field, and was not on any of our wish lists. At least not the majority of collectors. This is going to painfully SIT on the shelves. It will clearance at Target and they will blame the consumers, NOT Hasbro for a failed product, citing lack of interest. It's THESE types of products that are going to KILL the SW line folks.

We REALLY need to consider boycotting and petitioning against this item. At the least if it does come out, the price needs to START much lower that it is set at now. Really this should be any more than $40.  I like many of you are not willing be bent over by Hasbro AND give them our money to boot, on crap like this.

They are 2 years too late with this and $35 overpriced. BIG mistake Hasbro.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: David on January 30, 2009, 10:33 AM
What a bummer. I actually liked this, but not enough to pay over $50 for it. :-\
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on January 30, 2009, 11:15 AM
Wasn't the Target Sharc Arc $30-$35 for Christmas 07?  This makes no sense.   ::)
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 30, 2009, 02:54 PM
Wasn't the Target Sharc Arc $30-$35 for Christmas 07?  This makes no sense.   ::)

For real.

Does thing have figures or electronic lights & sound? This is way over the top absurd if it's just a paint scheme. (Scheme being an appropriate choice of words) I think they are testing the waters to see how much we will pay for this ****. I understand price increases, they suck but I understand. This tooling is paid for 3 times over so they cannot use that as an excuse. Even a limited run on a redeco does not warrant a price like that. I really like this deco and would have bought because of the Imperial Jive going on but there is no way in hell I am dropping $75 on a repaint. I already got hosed on the WM Gunship, I really liked it and bit the bullet. I passed on the TRU ARC because it was just plain stupid. I am trying to get rid of the Previews Tie that I bought for Hobbie.

If this has a lot of bells and whistles I may bite but if it's the same shi(t)p that they gave us 3 times already **** em', let it rot. I have never balked at price but with figures hitting the $9 mark and vehicles being overpriced the recession will be hitting the plastic Rebels, Empire, Separatists and the Republic's respective army building economy.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on January 30, 2009, 05:50 PM
Wasn't the Target Sharc Arc $30-$35 for Christmas 07?  This makes no sense.   ::)

Yep, I paid 30 bucks for mine when Target had their "Exclusive Endcap of Death" shortly before Christmas. 

Now, before I go on this rant, I should state that I have absolutely no background in economics outside of a class I took my senior year of high school, but I don't think Hasbro has gotten the memo about the state of the economy these days.  One would think that, in the US these days with the decline of disposable income, Hasbro would cut production to what actually sells, and try to offer consumers a "deal" with certain items.  On the contrary, however, Hasbro seems to be doing the exact opposite:  flooding the market with more items than it can handle, dropping the deal aspect of some items altogether (e.g. the fifth figure in Battle Packs, which were dropped for cost reasons only to see the retail price go up by 3 bucks in most places), and raising prices across the board.  Am I stupid or does Hasbro's logic here make no sense whatsoever?

This could very well be the item where Hasbro completely jumps the proverbial shark.  How an item can go from 30 dollars in 2005 (when it was a brand new mold and Hasbro hadn't made its money back on it), stay at 30 dollars as an exclusive (where nearly every time the price goes up) in 2007, jump to 40 dollars in 2008, and climb to 75 (!) bucks in 2009 is, pardon my language, completely ******* ri-goddamn-diculous.  Especially when it's an item that NOBODY was asking for, has NO added value (like, say, pack-in figures or electronics), and is something that is literally the fourth use of a mold in less than five years. 

I had (and now definitely have) no intention of buying this thing, even if it were 30 bucks, but I think that anyone who does actually pay full price for this for ANY reason needs to really examine their lives and their priorities in said lives, because 75 bucks for this is the most asinine thing that Hasbro has ever attempted in the SW line. 

What.  the.  ****?
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 31, 2009, 09:25 AM
If this thing turns out to be a "Previews" exclusive then the price seems about right. I agree I won't buy it, but all that stuff is a rip off so I wouldn't be surprised. If it's on the shelf at Target its one thing, but a comic store item could go for that much.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 31, 2009, 09:42 AM
If this thing turns out to be a "Previews" exclusive then the price seems about right.

I was thinking the same thing, but it does seem to be in Target's system.  ???
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Captain Piet on January 31, 2009, 04:33 PM
They can keep it for $75. I don't care how cool the paint scheme is. I have two others.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 1, 2009, 09:36 AM
Thankfully, it doesn't seem to come with a new or newish figure. That's the only way I'd be tempted to get it at this point.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Nicklab on February 1, 2009, 10:09 AM
Including a crew and astromech would soften some of the blow of this price increase.  But if that's not the case...I've reached my breaking point on price for this vehicle.  For the price of the ARC-170 to have more than doubled since 2005 is just not acceptable.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on February 1, 2009, 09:59 PM
Including a crew and astromech would soften some of the blow of this price increase.  But if that's not the case...I've reached my breaking point on price for this vehicle.  For the price of the ARC-170 to have more than doubled since 2005 is just not acceptable.

That was my case all along.  This is just bull****.  Just another reminder for me to get out of this hobby.  Gas prices has dropped significantly yet Hasbro is cutting back pack ins and charging us more ???  WTF
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Greg on February 1, 2009, 10:12 PM
$75.00 at EE!?! Surely this must be a mistake. I thought $50 for my CW Gunship was bad... That puts retail for this ARC at $50 minimum. I'll admit, $45 for my TRU ARCs wasn't bad. I like those ones quite a bit... I bought two yesterday. But a main line, mass-produced vehicle having a higher price tag than a TRU exclusive? That can't be right! If this larger vehicle line has things like the Y-Wing, Twilight, etc. Hasbro will still have a hard time justifying the cost-balancing thing while these ARCs and whatever other repacks clog the shelves at $60+. I do appreciate the things Hasbro does. I like how in-touch they try to be with both casual consumers and especially collectors. I also understand that businesses do need to make profits. But this... this is just showing that someone along the line has gotten greedy. Very greedy.
If I don't see a "Includes Flight Crew!" sticker on the box at Toy Fair, I'm going to be angry. To protest, I won't buy this. (Not that I would if it were cheaper)
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth Broem on February 3, 2009, 11:31 PM
Wow! That is Brian's Toys prices there. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 4, 2009, 07:51 PM
Including a crew and astromech would soften some of the blow of this price increase.  But if that's not the case...I've reached my breaking point on price for this vehicle.  For the price of the ARC-170 to have more than doubled since 2005 is just not acceptable.

Agreed.

If this came with three of the Evolutions ARC Pilots that were just released, repainted in ALL BLACK like a bridge outfit between EP3 and EP4 and then they also packed in an all black Astromech, I'd be SORTA okay with the price tag. $75 for just the ship is retarded.

Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: DSJ™ on February 5, 2009, 05:35 AM
Wow! That is Brian's Toys prices there. 

Nope, this (http://www.brianstoys.com/store/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=S8WVBARC170SHADOWC9) is.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Theta 288 on February 5, 2009, 03:30 PM
Thinking Out Loud

thats murderous, Hasbro go back to the 90's give us fair prices, forget the unecessary carded  & packs fancyness.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: King_Maul on February 15, 2009, 04:15 AM
The RS pic of the Imperial Shadow Squadron ARC-170 shows a nice deco, but I think I'll be passing regardless if it's at the $60 or $75 price point.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 15, 2009, 09:58 AM
Same here. It's nice, but...
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 23, 2009, 06:44 PM
Did anybody catch the spot during the audio recording of the Hasbro Toy Fair Q&A (from Jedi Insider.com, if I recall correctly) where someone asked how they could justify charging so much for the ARC-170 this year as compared to the last three years?  Hasbro basically (and I'm paraphrasing) said something along the lines of "We cannot and will not be held to past price scales when talking about new products."  You know, except for the fact that the ARC-170 isn't new, and this "new price" is still 33% higher than the ARC-170 currently an exclusive to TRU.   ::)

Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: ruiner on February 23, 2009, 10:07 PM
I don't know how completists can keep up these days. . .it's just not fun anymore.  I haven't purchased a figure for myself in well over a year now.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Nathan on March 6, 2009, 11:58 AM
Price increase aside, I actually like it and I don't get the hate.

Sure, it's not technically from the films, but it's a logical extension based on what we saw of the Imperialized V-wings, Venators, etc. It makes loads more sense than the goofy Skittles Jedi Starfighters. And it's an easy repaint to release. (Although I still wouldn't have bought it at $35, but that's just because I'm not buying anything recently.)

And like Ryan said, I don't think this is supposed to be from the Clone Wars, it's just being released in that packaging for convenience.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on March 31, 2009, 06:11 PM
Didn't know which thread to post this in, but this price point seems like a perfect opportunity to redo the Sith Infiltrator that everyone said would never be re/upscaled.  Granted the ship would probably still be small, but anything would look better than the $20 TAC version we got a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 5, 2009, 11:20 AM
I dunno. If they're going to do the infiltrator, they might as well go full steam and make it as big as the Queens starship. But then again, anything bigger than what we got would be welcome.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Nicklab on June 12, 2009, 12:57 AM
Saw a couple of these at a mom & pop shop today.  Was able to keep from buying one.  But was very surprised to see it priced at $49.99.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 12, 2009, 01:40 PM
Saw a couple of these at a mom & pop shop today.  Was able to keep from buying one.  But was very surprised to see it priced at $49.99.

Dude, this store rocks! Do they have a website?

I would actually buy it for $50.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on June 12, 2009, 01:44 PM
Dude, this store rocks! Do they have a website?

No **** man!  ;D  Nick seems to have found everything during our lull.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Nicklab on June 12, 2009, 01:46 PM
Just a bit of luck.  They have a website, but don't conduct any e-commerce.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 12, 2009, 01:56 PM
Just a bit of luck.  They have a website, but don't conduct any e-commerce.

Thanks for the info. Nice finds and nice price!
I too would prefer to give my money to the independent business instead of the big box stores.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 28, 2009, 06:41 PM
My local Toys R Us had two of these on the shelf today, and while I could go into my shock, dismay, anger, bewilderment, nausea, confusion, denial (as in "This has to be a mistake"), and/or amusement, I won't.  I'll just let the price speak for itself:

$79.99

Okay, I will make one comment.  HOLY.  *******.  ****.   :o
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on July 28, 2009, 06:50 PM
My local Toys R Us had two of these on the shelf today, and while I could go into my shock, dismay, anger, bewilderment, nausea, confusion, denial (as in "This has to be a mistake"), and/or amusement, I won't.  I'll just let the price speak for itself:

$79.99

Okay, I will make one comment.  HOLY.  *******.  ****.   :o

That's just so...wrong on many levels.  You pretty much hit most of them there Doc.  How can this be $79.99 if their exclusive Crumb Gunship is only going to be $59.99  ???
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Brian on July 29, 2009, 12:15 PM
Yikes, I hope this is a case of TRU overpricing - or a mistake, because...yikes.  I wasn't going to pick this one up anyways, but have been thinking about the Y-Wing.  If it will indeed be $80, that takes me from being on the fence to a definite "no" or "wait for clearance".  I just don't see how many people would be willing to pay $80 for this assortment in general.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 29, 2009, 12:17 PM
I won't buy the ARC for any of the prices it is going for but Target is selling them for $65 (I think some even $60) so that makes it a little less expensive when the Y Wing does get released.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 29, 2009, 12:32 PM
This is a sweet deco but not $80, $70 or $60 for that matter. $50 is pushing it big time but I could possibly could have swallowed that. Despite inflation how can TRU (who still has the last arc ship for $45 on shelf BTW) justify a $35 increase? This is truly a WTF moment.

$45 is the right ridiculous price to charge for the former $30 vehicle. $39.99 is the right price for this assortment but as I said earlier $50 would have been in a realm of sanity and only because it might open doors for new/resculpted ships. This has not L&S's, No figures included nothing different. The deco is not even as elaborate as the Space Whale Version.

I think we really do need to vote with our wallets on this one. Screw the Y-Wing I can live without it and I surely can live without this redecoed ARC.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Jeff on July 29, 2009, 12:44 PM
Hasbro is fully aware that the ARC-170 sucks.  At Toy Fair, they made a point of saying - "Yeah, we know - sorry".

The real problem was a delay in manufacturing the Y-Wing.  The Y-Wing got delayed, but Target and Walmart already had planograms set, so they wanted something, anything to go in that spot until the Y-Wing would be ready.

Essentially, the Imperial ARC-170 is the vehicle version of a "repaint wave" that was created simply to hold the shelf space until the Y-Wing was ready.  Hasbro knows the value isn't really there, but they had to give Target/Walmart something to fill that space.


And the $80 TRU price?  Ugh.   ::)  Last check of the computers had Target at $64.99 for the DLX ship line and Walmart was still listing $59.96 for them (for now).
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 29, 2009, 01:42 PM
Hasbro is fully aware that the ARC-170 sucks.  At Toy Fair, they made a point of saying - "Yeah, we know - sorry".

The real problem was a delay in manufacturing the Y-Wing.  The Y-Wing got delayed, but Target and Walmart already had planograms set, so they wanted something, anything to go in that spot until the Y-Wing would be ready.

Essentially, the Imperial ARC-170 is the vehicle version of a "repaint wave" that was created simply to hold the shelf space until the Y-Wing was ready.  Hasbro knows the value isn't really there, but they had to give Target/Walmart something to fill that space.


And the $80 TRU price?  Ugh.   ::)  Last check of the computers had Target at $64.99 for the DLX ship line and Walmart was still listing $59.96 for them (for now).

That understandable but actually makes it worse on their part knowing how lame it was when they could have done more to make it better. Why not stuff some figures in there to balance it out?
Depending on the scale $65 may be acceptable for the Y-Wing, never for the ARC.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: CorranHorn on July 29, 2009, 11:33 PM
My local Toys R Us had two of these on the shelf today, and while I could go into my shock, dismay, anger, bewilderment, nausea, confusion, denial (as in "This has to be a mistake"), and/or amusement, I won't.  I'll just let the price speak for itself:

$79.99

Okay, I will make one comment.  HOLY.  *******.  ****.   :o

Saw this myself at a TRU this evening (JOT: the Golf Mill store as an FYI) and indeed it was 79.99. Holy hannah, what an insane price, but if what Jeff was told by Hasbro is correct then the retailers are shooting themselves in the foot as this ship may very well rot on shelves.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on July 29, 2009, 11:56 PM
Jeff is right, but TRU charging $79.99 is just so wrong.  They can rot on their supply as Targets and WM's should still be at $59.99-$64.99 which is still way too high and I hope they rot at that price point as well.  People have to quit buying this **** to show Hasbro a lesson.   I really want the new Y-Wing, but I'm not bending over for this stuff.  Will wait for my Target 10% coupon before I bite and then I'll call it a day.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 30, 2009, 12:06 AM
This all started a few years ago with Target exclusive $12.99 figures like Lava Vader and assorted non-movie clones.

I said this then, and I'll say it now, those should have all been left to rot on the pegs, hopefully almost all of us leave the ARC-170 on the shelf now.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: CHEWIE on July 30, 2009, 01:40 AM
Especially considering those "Lava" figures were of terrible ROTS versions of Anakin and Obi Wan to begin with... just a cheezy gimmick that some collectors fell for... those people who bought those left me scratching my head... it's really funny too, I always see dealers at collectors shows trying to sell them.  Nobody, and mean NOBODY seems interested in them.   :D
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth Broem on July 30, 2009, 11:57 PM
I said this on the other site.  I literally laughed out loud when I saw the price tag at TRU.  What made it funnier was they were selling their B-Wings for $20 that were originally $45 I believe?  It's a decent repaint and all but Jesus $79.99???  It's just comical.  Good luck selling that TRU. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on July 31, 2009, 01:16 PM
Thought I'd throw this out there.....My Target reset yesterday and they had 4 ARCs. 

Today = 0    Makes you wonder.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think005.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: jedipurge on July 31, 2009, 04:01 PM
Thought I'd throw this out there.....My Target reset yesterday and they had 4 ARCs. 

Today = 0    Makes you wonder.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think005.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Ebay bait ::)
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 1, 2009, 06:55 AM
Thought I'd throw this out there.....My Target reset yesterday and they had 4 ARCs. 

Today = 0    Makes you wonder.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think005.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Normallly I'd assume they were damaged in a natural disaster or a mob of unruly children, but then I saw this in the recent purchases thread:


Scored the following this morning:
2x Turbo Tank
2x Imperial ARC-170
2x Turbo Tank Support Squad (Deluxe)
2x Jet Pack Clones (Deluxe)
1x ARF Trooper
1x Gree
2x Yularen
1x Jawa 2-pack


Apparently there are people out there that will buy this no matter what.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Greg on August 1, 2009, 08:39 AM
It was hilarious seeing this at TRU... $80 for this while the same ship was sitting at $45 right below it.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 1, 2009, 10:21 AM
It was hilarious seeing this at TRU... $80 for this while the same ship was sitting at $45 right below it.

I was wondering if stores still had the Wampa version. You'd think they'd try to display them as far from one another as possible to hope people didn't notice.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 1, 2009, 10:50 AM
Saw these at Target in SoCal. I'm glad I'm passing on these.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 1, 2009, 02:07 PM
It was hilarious seeing this at TRU... $80 for this while the same ship was sitting at $45 right below it.

I was wondering if stores still had the Wampa version. You'd think they'd try to display them as far from one another as possible to hope people didn't notice.

I went to two TRUs on Thursday - both still have the Wampa version and both had the ARCs displayed right next to each other.

VERY STUPID.

I almost thought about trying to get them to ring up the Imperial ARC for the Wampa ARC price.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Captain Piet on August 1, 2009, 03:05 PM
It was hilarious seeing this at TRU... $80 for this while the same ship was sitting at $45 right below it.

I was wondering if stores still had the Wampa version. You'd think they'd try to display them as far from one another as possible to hope people didn't notice.

I went to two TRUs on Thursday - both still have the Wampa version and both had the ARCs displayed right next to each other.

VERY STUPID.

I almost thought about trying to get them to ring up the Imperial ARC for the Wampa ARC price.

Why didn't you, Pete?
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Jayson on August 1, 2009, 04:13 PM
It was hilarious seeing this at TRU... $80 for this while the same ship was sitting at $45 right below it.

I was wondering if stores still had the Wampa version. You'd think they'd try to display them as far from one another as possible to hope people didn't notice.

I went to two TRUs on Thursday - both still have the Wampa version and both had the ARCs displayed right next to each other.

VERY STUPID.

I almost thought about trying to get them to ring up the Imperial ARC for the Wampa ARC price.

It works, especially if there is no price tag for the new Imperial version.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Nicklab on August 2, 2009, 03:14 PM
TRU's pricing makes me regret passing on this for $59.99 when I had the chance.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: King_Maul on August 2, 2009, 03:28 PM
I've seen this now at a Target I went to yesterday and one I went to this morning.  I would like to own it but just not now.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Brian on August 2, 2009, 03:53 PM
I saw this at a more out-of-the-way Target this weekend (they were in the middle of a reset at the time), priced at $64.99.  No interest in picking it up personally (especially at that price), although I do think it is a really nicely done ship, regardless of the paint scheme.  I have the ROTS version, and it is one of the nicer ships of recent years I think.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Nicklab on August 8, 2009, 04:00 PM
This ship (and the Clone Wars Y-Wing) is much more attractive at Target's $64.99 price point than Toys R Us's $79.99 price.  I know that TRU is trying to survive, but they can't do that by trying to price gouge by as much as $15.  If they don't wise up, they're going to wind up with tons of deluxe vehicle overstock.  And this leaves me to wonder where WalMart might price the Deluxe Vehicle assortment.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Captain Piet on August 8, 2009, 11:45 PM
This ship (and the Clone Wars Y-Wing) is much more attractive at Target's $64.99 price point than Toys R Us's $79.99 price.  I know that TRU is trying to survive, but they can't do that by trying to price gouge by as much as $15.  If they don't wise up, they're going to wind up with tons of deluxe vehicle overstock.  And this leaves me to wonder where WalMart might price the Deluxe Vehicle assortment.

$59.99.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 13, 2009, 03:25 PM
The more I look at this the more I want it but the price is stopping me, even at $64.99. I just got some Clone cash that I am pondering applying to getting this. I was looking  at the pic in the Snail tank thread and I really like it.

Please someone stop me.......
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Phrubruh on August 14, 2009, 10:30 AM
The more I look at this the more I want it but the price is stopping me, even at $64.99. I just got some Clone cash that I am pondering applying to getting this. I was looking  at the pic in the Snail tank thread and I really like it.

Please someone stop me.......


I think we need to perform an intervention here. Where is that white coat?
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 14, 2009, 01:42 PM
I think we need to perform an intervention here. Where is that white coat?

 ;D
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 16, 2009, 11:20 AM
Space in the major factor for me. I have two versions that really don't really have a place for display and I certainly can't afford the space for a third.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 16, 2009, 02:21 PM


I think we need to perform an intervention here. Where is that white coat?

Here I am.

It's a nice ship for $45, and I recommend picking it up when it gets there.

This thing will be on shelves for months.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 18, 2009, 03:35 PM
This thing will be on shelves for months.

Every store than have been to lately is backing up you claim. I have been doing a lot more hunting lately and I honestly have been keeping tabs on the stock. Not one has sold at 4 different targets and 2 TRU's. Unless they have been restocked this assortment will not be around for long. So I will be waiting for $45 or less before i bite. I wonder if Hasbro will remove these from the shelves like the pegwarming figures.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 19, 2009, 10:57 AM

This thing will be on shelves for months.

Until Christmas. Christmas is always an x-factor.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Nicklab on August 21, 2009, 06:58 PM
This ship (and the Clone Wars Y-Wing) is much more attractive at Target's $64.99 price point than Toys R Us's $79.99 price.  I know that TRU is trying to survive, but they can't do that by trying to price gouge by as much as $15.  If they don't wise up, they're going to wind up with tons of deluxe vehicle overstock.  And this leaves me to wonder where WalMart might price the Deluxe Vehicle assortment.

$59.99.

Actually, I saw a planogram for the upcoming WalMart toy section reset.  The price point for the Deluxe Vehicles on that document was $64.98.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on August 22, 2009, 01:36 AM
Actually, I saw a planogram for the upcoming WalMart toy section reset.  The price point for the Deluxe Vehicles on that document was $64.98.

Does WM really think that people will buy this from them over Target for a penny's difference?  Or is it WM's standard to 98 cent everything versus the 99 cent thing?
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 23, 2009, 10:34 AM
It's Walmart's way of giving us the lowest price guaranteed.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 23, 2009, 02:51 PM
The one Wal-Mart in my area that did what it was supposed to be doing (i.e. reset their action figure aisle) had two of these on the shelf Thursday at the aforementioned price of 64.98.  Needless to say, the first time I see the Y-Wing, I'll be buying it, because with the glut of ARCs that is already out there, it's going to be a nightmare finding the Y-Wing.  Especially if Hasbro pulls one of their typical case pack moves and ships the ARC again with the Y-Wing.

I find the fact that there have been no other announcements for this assortment either before, during, or since SDCC to be quite telling, especially given Hasbro's semi-apology for the ARC's existence in the first place. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on August 23, 2009, 06:12 PM
It's Walmart's way of giving us the lowest price guaranteed.

I guess I never really paid attention to their "low prices" but a penny is a penny is a penny.

Good for them.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 24, 2009, 04:27 PM
Especially if Hasbro pulls one of their typical case pack moves and ships the ARC again with the Y-Wing.

They already did, go to BBTS they have it in stock and have the case with one of each. The reality is they could not make them fast enough so they had to pack an ARC in there until the production catches up. It may be too late as I can see this SKU dying. Xmas season will decide the fate of this price point.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Jesse James on November 2, 2010, 07:33 PM
Anyone else notice scads of these at their local WM?

Mine has about 30 out onthe main aisle where they put a lot of bigger toys up for Christmas.  I didn't catch the price but was thinking it wasn't $70.  I was surprised to see it back, at all.  I'm guessing old stock from last year that WM wasn't willing to take a bath on, or that they got cheap from Hasbro and are selling cheap for this year.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: iFett on November 2, 2010, 08:05 PM
BF sneak surprise maybe?  I've stopped at 4 different WM's in the past few weeks and I still get disgusted each and everytime I enter that store - or the parking lots for that matter (looking for new TF swag is my excuse)
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: Greg on November 4, 2010, 02:45 PM
Anyone else notice scads of these at their local WM?

Mine has about 30 out onthe main aisle where they put a lot of bigger toys up for Christmas.  I didn't catch the price but was thinking it wasn't $70.  I was surprised to see it back, at all.  I'm guessing old stock from last year that WM wasn't willing to take a bath on, or that they got cheap from Hasbro and are selling cheap for this year.

Actually, yes. The local WM close to home threw up an end cap with at least 20 ships. I was shocked to see so many. They were $30 each, which isn't a bad deal. I actually bought one, and it's a pretty cool ship with awesome paint apps.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: jedi_master_sal on November 10, 2010, 12:04 PM
Wow, at $30, I'll buy one. I really liked the deco. But I wasn't paying $70 for an old mold with a new paint job.
Title: Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
Post by: King_Maul on January 3, 2011, 10:24 PM
My local WM had an end cap full of these today for $30 each.  I'm surprised they didn't have these ARCs out during the Xmas rush.  It'll be interesting to see how fast these go.