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Title: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Paul on March 11, 2011, 05:41 PM
Well, looks like Sundays will be free this fall.

Hopefully the Colleges can change up their schedules a bit and play some Sunday games.

Feel free to discuss this, but keep the political rhetoric in the PIT.

Gotta suck to be a Junior in College who took money from an Agent...  OOPS.  From Bling to Sting....
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Jesse James on March 11, 2011, 05:46 PM
I've got possibly three games, every week, so I'll live. :)  That's hell enough on me as it goes, not to mention helping them condition at home if they want to, or work on their hands or footwork...  I'll miss the NFL on Sunday but I've got enough to fill the void for sure, and before you know it then you have the NHL back I guess.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: I Am Sith on March 11, 2011, 09:53 PM
This was waiting in my e-mail inbox when I checked it just now:

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Dear NFL Fan,

When I wrote to you last on behalf of the NFL, we promised you that we would work tirelessly to find a collectively bargained solution to our differences with the players' union. Subsequent to that letter to you, we agreed that the fastest way to a fair agreement was for everyone to work together through a mediation process. For the last three weeks I have personally attended every session of mediation, which is a process our clubs sincerely believe in.

Unfortunately, I have to tell you that earlier today the players' union walked away from mediation and collective bargaining and has initiated litigation against the clubs. In an effort to get a fair agreement now, our clubs offered a deal today that was, among other things, designed to have no adverse financial impact on veteran players in the early years, and would have met the players’ financial demands in the latter years of the agreement.

The proposal we made included an offer to narrow the player compensation gap that existed in the negotiations by splitting the difference; guarantee a reallocation of savings from first-round rookies to veterans and retirees without negatively affecting compensation for rounds 2-7; no compensation reduction for veterans; implement new year-round health and safety rules; retain the current 16-4 season format for at least two years with any subsequent changes subject to the approval of the league and union; and establish a new legacy fund for retired players ($82 million contributed by the owners over the next two years).

It was a deal that offered compromise, and would have ensured the well-being of our players and guaranteed the long-term future for the fans of the great game we all love so much. It was a deal where everyone would prosper.

We remain committed to collective bargaining and the federal mediation process until an agreement is reached, and call on the union to return to negotiations immediately. NFL players, clubs, and fans want an agreement. The only place it can be reached is at the bargaining table.

While we are disappointed with the union's actions, we remain steadfastly committed to reaching an agreement that serves the best interest of NFL players, clubs and fans, and thank you for your continued support of our League. First and foremost it is your passion for the game that drives us all, and we will not lose sight of this as we continue to work for a deal that works for everyone.
 

Yours,
Roger Goodell
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Jesse James on March 12, 2011, 12:04 AM
Nice of him to contact you at least.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: JediJman on March 12, 2011, 09:29 AM
Nice of him to contact you at least.

Now that's funny.   ;D
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 13, 2011, 10:10 AM
Oh well I don't care if they ever play again.  Bunch of babies, all of 'em.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: JediJman on March 13, 2011, 12:16 PM
Oh well I don't care if they ever play again.  Bunch of babies, all of 'em.

I will/would definitely miss football - its really the only pro sport that holds any appeal for me these days.  That said, I'm definitely soured on the players, owners, and the NFL in general with all this CB crap.  When you have players who make a minimum of several hundred thousand dollars per year and owners who are raking in hundreds of millions each season, its pretty hard to feel any compassion for either side.  ESPECIALLY given the unemployment rate, rising gas prices, a freaking catastrophy in Japan, etc.  How about everyone involved just keeps 90% of last year's pay and they funnel the remaining $5 billion into helping Japan?

Greedy bastards.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 17, 2011, 03:18 PM
I am just ignoring this for now (to keep my head from exploding). I'm sure each side has good arguments for their side. I don't care. You rich a$&h*$es make enough money. They better work it out and have at least a 14 game season.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: ruiner on March 17, 2011, 04:14 PM
Oh well I don't care if they ever play again.  Bunch of babies, all of 'em.

I will/would definitely miss football - its really the only pro sport that holds any appeal for me these days.  That said, I'm definitely soured on the players, owners, and the NFL in general with all this CB crap.  When you have players who make a minimum of several hundred thousand dollars per year and owners who are raking in hundreds of millions each season, its pretty hard to feel any compassion for either side.  ESPECIALLY given the unemployment rate, rising gas prices, a freaking catastrophy in Japan, etc.  How about everyone involved just keeps 90% of last year's pay and they funnel the remaining $5 billion into helping Japan?

Greedy bastards.

Wow, we agree on something.

I don't understand how they can feel slighted.  They bitch about health care and retirement benefits - you can't pay for that **** with your inflated salaries?!

Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Scott on April 28, 2011, 11:47 PM
Why I don't mind the Vikes taking Ponder...it's obvious they tried hard to trade back and couldn't...Ponder is a huge reach at 12 but obviously wouldn't be there in the 2nd
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 29, 2011, 08:31 AM
Five years from now people are going to look back at this draft and say wow not a single QB chosen was ever remotely a star in the league. The teams that take QBs today may say oh well it was worth the chance, but teams like Carolina, MN, Jacksonville, Houston are gonna be angry at themselves and the coaches that get fired over it will really be angry with themselves.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Scott on April 29, 2011, 09:52 AM
I agree...all of them have question marks.  I was kind of hoping they would have taken Fairley or the DE from Clemson as they really need D line help...I saw many mock drafts where they were taking Ponder or Dalton in the 2nd round.  I just don't see that happening.

I've seen lots of comparisons of Ponder to Aaron Rodgers with a little less arm strength.  Like you said, time will definitely tell
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 29, 2011, 09:59 AM
I believe I heard he compares to Chad Pennington. I bet the Jets wish they hadn't used such a high pick on him (that was the year Brady went 199 as a side note).

Arm strength is so important to me so "not a lot of arm strength" quotes on a number 12 pick. Ugh
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Morgbug on April 29, 2011, 04:53 PM
Wasn't the right time for the Vikings to take a QB last year?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Diddly on April 29, 2011, 07:15 PM
Lockout back on

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6451701&campaign=rss&source=twitter&ex_cid=Twitter_espn_6451701 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6451701&campaign=rss&source=twitter&ex_cid=Twitter_espn_6451701)
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 29, 2011, 08:07 PM
Vikings got a good TE in Rudolph
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Jesse James on April 30, 2011, 12:31 AM
People are already running with arms flailing about in the streets because the Steelers didn't take a corner in the first two rounds...  which part of me wants to run around doing the same thing, but they did pick up some o-line help and a DE which can't hurt them either.

Corners though...  I'm thinking they'll look FA at this point plus resign Ike Taylor for probably a lot.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: JediJman on April 30, 2011, 10:59 PM
Yeah, the Packers could have used some CB help as well with Woodson getting injured/older.  I am happy to see them improve the OL though.  I don't know much about Alex Green, but nice to see them fiiiiinally address the hole at RB as well.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Rob on May 1, 2011, 10:03 AM
Bucs got Da'Quan Bowers in the second round.  Last year there was talk of this guy being top-5, even #1 overall.  They think his knee is okay... not okay enough to take him at 20, but plenty okay to take in the second half of the second round.

If he ends up being okay, I'm loving their draft and they'll have two 1sts and two 2nds invested in the d-line now.  

I'm also beyond thrilled that Cam Newton ended up going to a division rival.  I don't have high hopes for the kid and think that he may set them back 3 to 5 years.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 25, 2011, 09:32 AM
Player vote today...end to the lockout imminent?

I was really hoping they would just wipe out the whole season. It would be so refreshing to have a year without having to endure the Redskins sucking so badly, even if it meant no football at all.

Yep, it's that bad around here.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Paul on July 25, 2011, 11:05 AM
I am admittedly back in.

I was hoping for a 12 month "cleanse" that would have probably kept me from going back.  But we have missed nothing of consequence yet.  I have my own opinions on who sux in this whole thing, but it really doesn't matter.

About the only $ or support I am going to throw at this is watching it on TV.

With both sides thinking they got screwed it must be a good deal for everybody but us the fans.  Ticket, Parking, Food, Merchandise and Autographs won't go down in price so we know who is taking it up the back side and it is not the Owners or Players.

I would have prefered 2 more regular season games instead of the Pre-season games but oh well.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: JediJman on July 25, 2011, 11:08 AM
It will be nice for the NFL to get back on track.  I'm with you Paul - its really the fans that lose out from a cost perspective, but hard to argue with the prices of things if people are willing to pay it.   As much as I dislike the whole greedy mess of the lockout, Football is about the only sport I really enjoy watching, so I am happy that the regular season won't miss a beat.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 25, 2011, 01:00 PM
The only plus with the lock-out for me was I was supposed to spend the next year in Afghanistan so I wouldn't lose sleep staying up all night to watch the games.

Since it looks like I'm not leaving now it will be nice to have Sundays in front of the big screen at home.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 25, 2011, 08:44 PM
I've got one year of my kid doing JV and Varsity ball all year, and then a year of him doing Varsity...  He's beating out a senior this year for starting D, and I'm going to be footballed out considering I'll have games Friday, maybe Saturday or Monday, and Sunday (or Thursday, or Monday) too.  I could've probably done without an NFL this year too, but I'll be there watching regardless of how dead to the world I am on Sundays now, haha.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: ruiner on July 25, 2011, 10:14 PM
What position does he play Jesse?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 25, 2011, 11:07 PM
Corner on D, and he's getting time at receiver too and he's outperforming a senior at that too so he may get both...  I'm a much bigger fan of defense though, and it's what I coached, so I really want to see him out there laying kids out.  He's a monster hitter.

Last year was his first JV year, and the local juvie school is in his division, and at the JV game against that school they were beating up on our kids pretty good...  We'd won the varsity game Friday, and their JV team were just pummeling ours.

Anyway, their JV QB was bigger than me, and this kid breaks out right on a keeper, and he completely beats the DE and outside LB on my gf's kid's side at corner.

So the QB has a receiver out trying to block him, and my kid just nails him puts him on his ass.  He stepped up on the QB then who is now out to where he had beat the blocker, and the QB leaps because my kid breaks down a little early sometimes for his tackles.  But this time he breaks out of his tackle really quickly, wraps their QB at the back of his thighs just above his knees, and dumps him right over his shoulder head first into the grass.

Their QB, to his credit, got right up and he didn't lose control of the ball at all...  People were just cringing on both sides of the field.

My kid got mother f'd by some of their line for doing that to their QB, but I guess the QB congratulated him.  He's always been a monster on defense even though he's not always had the size people expect for big hits.  His technique is flawless though, and I got him to hit the weight room religiously so even though he's not a huge kid, he's solid muscle and can make every hit just pure punishment. 

They're pushing him to gain 20 lbs. so they can move him up to one of the linebacker spots because they lost a lot of seniors there from last year, and the kids filling it this year aren't anywhere near the quality they lost.  Their tackling is so-so at best.

There's a lot of good QB's and receivers they'll face this year though, kids they know are coming up in other districts they play that have already gained experience at the varsity level, so they're really trying to beef up against the pass because it was their achilles heel last year.

I've got two years of this left basically.  My gf's youngest won't play anymore, he's just not into it and I'm not forcing him.  So I've got two years left to enjoy. :)