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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Legacy Collection => Topic started by: Diddly on February 17, 2008, 02:48 PM
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So, I couldn't help but notice all of the droids that were shown off at Toy Fair. Now I'm a huge droid enthusiast who's been waiting a decade for new droids that aren't C-3PO and R2-D2. We're getting the new Droid Factory sets, and the Build-A-Figure will consist of Protocol and Astromech droids. Now this is all fine and dandy, but I can't help but think back to the early days of AOTC and ROTS when all we were getting was white Clones. Hasbro started to pump out the colored Clones based on ones in the film, and around 2006/2007 they started going overboard with the colors. Now it's to the point where it seems like Hasbro is just making up colors, slapping together a backstory for a Clone Squadron, and putting them on the shelves. I'm scared that this same thing is going to happen with the droids.
Now granted, there are probably hundreds of millions of droids in the galaxy, so it's believable that some color schemes could actually exist in the "real" SW world. I'm just worried that Hasbro is going to start offering us "Felucia Camoflauge Astromech Droid!" or "Imperial Shadow Protocol Droid!" instead of something we'd all like to buy. Same thing that happened with the Clones; I'd rather not see Hasbro oversaturate the market with droids, since they appear to be pretty popular with everyone.
Hopefully I'm not coming off as negative, since I'm pretty pumped for these new sets. This is just some food for thought.
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Diddy
I agree with you, we already have seen some artro droids in hasbro flavors and i think if Hasbro can slap new colors on existing molds they will. hopefully it will be after they have done many of the droids we want first.
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Well, from an aesthetic standpoint I'm not too concerned since there are billions if not trillions of droids in the galaxy, so any color scheme is pretty legitimate. Plus it makes a lot more sense that people will be customizing their droids or that they will come out of the factory in different colors for different functions or for different markets, than that the clonetroopers would throw all this crayola **** all over their military armor.
However, that inventions such as the "Camo Covert Astromech" will displace "real" (i.e. previously established) droids we would all prefer, is a very well-founded concern.
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I don't mind getting astromech droids as long as they are with something else like those droid sets on in build a figure waves. I just hate buying them seperately on their own. I skip them almost everytime. Same with R2-D2. But it will be nice to have them in the collection now.
For example I would never buy that astromech for $8 in that new Hoth Battle Pack on it's own. But now that it is that new one and with the hood up Han I'll definately go for it.
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I think the droid factory concept is the ONLY way we'd be getting droids like those two R7 models or even with the WalMart wave, figures like C-3PX. So from that stand-point, I think this concept is pretty good. Droids lend themselves to coming in parts and for Hasbro to pick two droids that can work modularly with each other is also a plus. I can see people mixing and matching different parts to have slightly different droids.
I also hope that Hasbro considers giving us some R6, R8 and R9 astromechs.
I have noticed a pattern to the waves.
Wave 1 (Tatooine) - 1x R4, 1x R7
Wave 2 (CW) - 1x R4, 1x R7
Wave 3 (?) - 6 figures = protocol droid
Wave 4 (?) - 8 figures = 2 more astromechs
I hope that for the third 8 figure wave, we don't end up with another R4 and another R7 model. But if we do, I really won't be surprised.
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Do droid repaints really bug people though? The R2-KT's colors were pushing my limits of what I think looks cool, but it was the cause that sold the toy, not the toy of course, so as a figure it was acceptable...
Random other repaints of droids don't really need to make 100% sense though, so I'm cool with that aspect so long as it has some kind of limitation. Really though, R5 has blue legs on a red body, so the color combo's seem limitless due to the interchangeable nature of droids (3po's silver shin, another example I guess).
I'm cool with that for the most part then, as droids go. They don't seemingly overload us on droids at any one time either, even so far in 2008 it seems. Not a ton, and for the most part, they're a neat "extra" for collecting it all at the inflated price. I can accept that happily.
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I don't mind the extra droids. I'm not a droid connoisseur like others are, but I like them.
I did get almost enough of them last year (or was it 2006) with the Entertainment Earth sets.
I'm stoked for C-3PX and K-3PX though.
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I'm stoked for C-3PX and K-3PX though.
Yeah - the K-3PX that comes with Vader looks really cool. I guess the Shadow Protocol Droid is going to kinda come to pass with the release of this figure, but I'm okay with it since it looks like it has a unique head and torso sculpt with slightly modified arms and legs from 4-LOM and for me that's enough "new" about him to warrant a new figure.
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I'm not really that big on astromech repaints... after EE's sets a couple years back, I've had my fill (mostly).
I recently customized some oddball looking astromechs though, just for variety.
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/0205083rt9.jpg)
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/0205083t2d2.jpg)
If Hasbro wants to give us some more with really odd shapes heads, then I'm all for it. But what I've seen so far on the build-a-droid idea hasn't impressed me all that much.
What I want is THIS from KOTOR -
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/f/f0/T3-m443.jpg/469px-T3-m443.jpg)
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Amen Chewie!
I'd MUCH rather have the KOTOR droid than some random Hasbro made up stuff.
At least make already established droids. Movie versions first, the EU by way of games/comics/novels. Then and only then should Hasbro seek to cobble some variations together.
I SO wanted the yellow R5 from Tatooine. Looks like I'll be waiting yet again for that one.
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I'd like to see Movie droids and not EU stuff myself...especially if the droids are part of the Wave they are representing...
For instance, I'd rather have seen these two for Wave 1:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/endor/astromechs.jpg)
There are 3-4 Astromechs I still really want:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/r5k6.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/r3o1.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/podrace/r5x2.jpg) (And the Final Royal Starship R5)
There are several background movie Astromechs they could still do (especially in Mos Eisley and Mos Espa)
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I'd like to see the droid thing expand too as there's some gonk's left too...
That said, I agree with your choices wholehearted Scott. Those are my tops, though I'd add the creamcicle colored orange R5 from Mos Eisley to the lsit as well. Very noticeable in that one shot as he rolls on by, and his colors are so 70's retro while being a cool R5 (not enough of those repaints yet IMO).
That's the only one I'd add to the list.
I do dig getting an R7 though. That's a cool design.
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You know T3-M4 and HK-47 are both viable options for this concept. Using the pics from Wikipedia:
T3-M4:
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/2/2e/T3M4_kotor2.jpg/600px-T3M4_kotor2.jpg)
Four parts: Head, Left Front Leg, Right Front Leg, Torso w/Rear Wheel legs
HK-47:
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/c/c1/Hk47.jpg)
Six Parts: Head, Torso, Left Leg, Right Leg, Left Arm, Right Arm
I think the Droid Factory concept would be a great way to get us these two KOTOR/KOTOR II droids that we wouldn't get otherwise.
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I'm not really that big on astromech repaints... after EE's sets a couple years back, I've had my fill (mostly).
I recently customized some oddball looking astromechs though, just for variety.
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/0205083rt9.jpg)
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/0205083t2d2.jpg)
If Hasbro wants to give us some more with really odd shapes heads, then I'm all for it. But what I've seen so far on the build-a-droid idea hasn't impressed me all that much.
Chewie - if those were the droids Hasbro showed us at TF the other day, I'd be as happy as Larry!!
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Great customs Chewie!
I would rather see made up Droids any day of the week over clones. I am cloned out. The Droids are easier to swallow in the variety of colors we are getting. After seeing what's coming we now we need Sae-See Tin's & Aayla's R2 unit from their starfighters. Maybe series 2 of the exclusive Droid factory.....
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I think the Droid Factory concept would be a great way to get us these two KOTOR/KOTOR II droids that we wouldn't get otherwise.
Agreed, I would love to see that happen! BTW those customs are awesome, Justin!
I don't mind droids at all, bring 'em on, as long as they're not made-up. I always prefer a cool looking droid repaint to a lame clone repaint. My only problem with astro-droids, which I have a slight collecting focus towards, is that they're not much for my money (which this year will be $8) unless they come with a cool accessory. That's why I like the idea of the Build-A-Droid line, it's pretty much buy a few figures and get a free droid. I hope this line does well so Hasbro considers continuing it.
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Gawd, I want that HK-47 droid so bad!
Oooh, what if just MAYBE, THIS is the last build-a-droid figure! That would mean a full wave of 8 KOTOR figures!!!
Bastilla Shan
Carth Onasi
Canderous Ordo
Jolee Bindo
Juhani
Mission Vao
Zaalbar
Sith Soldier
or possibly one of these instead of the Sith Soldier:
Darth Bandon
Republic Soldier
Darth Bandon
In fact, the last Astromech COULD be T3-M4 and the others I listed plus a few more could easily make up a secod wave of KOTOR figs...
Now THAT would be awesome.
OOOH, OR!!! PROXY from The Force Unleashed.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PROXY
He wasn't talked about at Toy Fair. This would be a great way to get him made, but who would be the figures made in another TFU wave to make this a build-a-droid wave?
PROXY is a critical character from what I understand of the game, so he deserves a figure.
Just some possibilities.
-Sal
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Gawd, I want that HK-47 droid so bad!
Oooh, what if just MAYBE, THIS is the last build-a-droid figure! That would mean a full wave of 8 KOTOR figures!!!
Not neccessarily. The R7 unit wasn't in ROTJ, yet he's coming in an ROTJ wave. Therefore, we could still get HK-47, but in another wave. I would prefer an EU wave from a variety of sources rather than an entirely KOTOR wave. I doubt that a KOTOR wave would do very well on the pegs, unfortunately.
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KOTOR stuff might do well in the Comic Pack format though... rather than a comic included, a game poster. Or something.
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KOTOR stuff might do well in the Comic Pack format though... rather than a comic included, a game poster. Or something.
And a droid part to make HK-47!
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I would LOVE an entire wave dedicated to KOTOR. However, I agree that it wouldn't do so well on the pegs.
Kids and collectors love Sith Lords, that's why the Wave 5 figures and the Evo sets can get away with featuring some of the Sith Lords from the games. I would love it if they figured out a way to bring Darth Sion and Darth Bandon to plastic form.
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if Hasbro can slap new colors on existing molds they will. hopefully it will be after they have done many of the droids we want first.
That's the statement right there. Between you and Scott, I couldn't agree more.
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The more I look at the "build a droids" that we're going to be getting, the less excited I am. They just don't jump out at me as being anything special... like clones, astromechs have been done to death (again, because of the EE droids in my opinion). I want more funky droids, not the cookie cutter astromechs that have been available over and over. But, this is a better pack-in than anything they've done in the past, so I'm not trying to be too hard on Hasbro here. I'm glad to see them lean in this direction.
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The astromechs shown so far disappoint, only because I wanted ones that have been on my wishlist for a while. There are a bunch of R5's for instance. However, a couple of my wants are coming, the Watto droid in the WM thing and the Hoth R5 in the battle pack, so it's okay. But droids for droids sake, I don't know. I'm very interested to see what type of protocol droids they do.
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But, this is a better pack-in than anything they've done in the past, so I'm not trying to be too hard on Hasbro here. I'm glad to see them lean in this direction.
Agreed. Beter than the mini-holos, stands or even the coins. At least we actually get another figure out of them.
Just wish they'd have done MOVIE droids first as the pack-ins. I'm not keen on the made up versions. It could very well be Droid "flavor of the month," soon.
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But, this is a better pack-in than anything they've done in the past, so I'm not trying to be too hard on Hasbro here. I'm glad to see them lean in this direction.
Agreed. Beter than the mini-holos, stands or even the coins. At least we actually get another figure out of them.
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I think it's definitely one of the better value-added items that Hasbro has come up with. It almost makes the price increase a little more bearable.
As for the droid choices? The R7 units are interesting. We've never gotten an R7 before, so that's cool. Throw in some more recognizable droids or ones that fit in with the theme of a wave and I'd be that much happier about the project.