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Title: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 21, 2010, 02:39 AM
Hasbro recently leaked in a 3/17/10 Q/A what might be in an upcoming 2011 TPM wave...

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ECHO BASE FORUMS: The upcoming Aurra Sing in the Clone Wars line looks amazing! When can collectors expect to see a brand new Aurra Sing figure in the realistic format?

HASBRO: If the schedule holds, there will be a new basic carded Aurra Sing in 2011.

Being that TVC is expected to run for two years, it's likely that Aurra Sing will be part of the TVC!  :D
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 22, 2010, 06:59 PM
Awesome! I was digging the CW one but now I will most likely hold off. I am sure JJ will be in this wave, he has been my most wanted fro awhile. I hope Tarpels & Palps will make it in there too. There are so many EP1 figures that really need an upgrade.

I still have to admit that the Pod Pilot Anakin is still one of the most detailed figures in Modern SW ever. Paint/sculptwise It holds up to today standards and even surpasses modern figures in terms of the paint apps that are not crooked. Below is not the best picture but if you have one in your collection it really was ahead of it's time.

(http://www.rebelscum.com/episodeI/e1anakinpodhead.jpg)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: jono on March 23, 2010, 05:11 AM
Ratts Tyrell was confirmed by Hans Hideout in a Q and A to be confirmed for the 2011 line.

Maybe he will be in this wave?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: Obi-Jiff Kenobi on March 30, 2010, 05:44 AM
Here's my choices:
1) Cliegg Lars
2) Dorme
3) Padme, nightgown/robe, balcony scene
4) JK Burtola, Jedi youngling
5) Liam, Jedi youngling
6) Jocasta Nu
7) Obi-Wan Kenobi, wounded by Dooku
8) Anakin Skywalker, peasant/refugee disguise
9) Padme, peasant/refugee disguise
10) Hermione Bagwa

Oops, please ignore this. I was looking at the EpII voting page, and thought I'd clicked on 'next page', but I obviously clicked on 'next topic' without even noticing. :o sorry guys.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: P-Siddy on March 31, 2010, 01:14 AM
Here's my choices:
1) Cliegg Lars
2) Dorme
3) Padme, nightgown/robe, balcony scene
4) JK Burtola, Jedi youngling
5) Liam, Jedi youngling
6) Jocasta Nu
7) Obi-Wan Kenobi, wounded by Dooku
8) Anakin Skywalker, peasant/refugee disguise
9) Padme, peasant/refugee disguise
10) Hermione Bagwa

Save that for the Clones wave.  ;)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: Nicklab on March 31, 2010, 02:21 AM
My own predictions for this wave?

-Qui-Gon Jinn
-Darth Maul
-Ratts Tyerell
-Aurra Sing
-Queen Amidala
-Battle Droid Commander
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 1, 2010, 01:11 PM
My own predictions for this wave?

-Qui-Gon Jinn
-Darth Maul

-Ratts Tyerell
-Aurra Sing
-Queen Amidala
-Battle Droid Commander

Apparently, according to Rebelscum.com (but w/ them nothing is ever certain), Qui-Gon and Darth Maul are set to part of the "Greatest Hits" division. Darth Maul's place on this list is interesting b/c I would have though that Hasbrp would just make an all-new Darth Maul already. And a thought-worthy note: it would be harder for Hasbro to make Maul's lightsaber blades full-length on a Vintage card b/c of the smaller, narrower bubble.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: jono on May 12, 2010, 07:25 AM
my list...

NEW

Darth Maul
Captain Panaka
Jar Jar
Ratts Tyrell
Adi Gallia

G H

Qui Gon
Obi Wan
Battle Droid

With Tey How and Aurra Sing hopefully comming later the same year in the mixed waves.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 15, 2010, 11:23 AM
Hmmm...I like the idea of a Ratts Tyrell, but won't he look ridiculous on a card? He's even smaller than a Jawa. I hope they stick something else in there with him, but I'm sure that's just wishful thinking.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: JediJman on May 15, 2010, 01:48 PM
There's not much I really want to see from TPM.  Cloth deco Obi & Qui-Gon would probably be my top choices, along with a better articulated Aurra.  She's a good choice given some crossover with The Clone Wars.  I don't think they can do it, but I would love to see a transforming droideka.  This is also a good opportunity to get those Twilek twin mechanics out there.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 16, 2010, 02:28 PM
I'd also like to finally see a "final battle" Amidala redo...and yeah, Twi'Lek masseuses.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 16, 2010, 09:44 PM
as lame a figure he is, if that list is accurate I am glad jar Jar is getting a new sculpt.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 16, 2010, 10:35 PM
as lame a figure he is, if that list is accurate I am glad jar Jar is getting a new sculpt.

I do think that Jar Jar needs a redo. I don't think, however, that we need a SA Anakin based from this episode - what can a SA 9-year-old Anakin action figure do?

I agree on a Naboo Battle Padme. ;D And even a Naboo Battle "Queen Amidala" (Padme's handmaiden decoy dressed in royal battle gear).
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: Brian on May 17, 2010, 12:46 PM
I agree, there isn't necessarily a ton I still want from TPM either (podracers are always welcome) - but I wouldn't mind some resculpts - and Jar jar is at the top of that list.  Several others could be updated as well (Padme, even adding ball elbows to the Evolutions Maul), and especially after her appearances in the Clone Wars, I really want a new Aurra Sing (which I think is rumored/confirmed for next year?).
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 17, 2010, 01:03 PM
so is that list Jono is reporting a confirmed list of figures for that wave?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on May 17, 2010, 03:44 PM
Yeah, besides the obvious resculpts I can't think of too much else I'd want from TPM, although I'm down for any of the more unique looking aliens if Hasbro ever makes em. Loves me some aliens.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 17, 2010, 04:24 PM
Wow, I just read the list post if that is the line up that would be great. I recently just put my Panaka on the sale block as I want to purge all POTF2-EP1 era figures. The only one I do not care for is Ratts. EP1 is so bad every time I see a Podracer makes me cringe. I have grown to love Jar-Jar so I am really glad he is getting an update. Hopefully the Darth Maul will get the true SA treatment. I am still very happy with the Evo ones I just hope they update his lightsaber. The Popsicle stick of the 90's should be put to rest now. They have got their moneys worth out of the tool as they repacked it several times and made several version of it. I use the Saga Sith training die-cast one as that looks like it belongs in the modern line.

I would like to see an updated Senator Palps instead of a Podracer.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 17, 2010, 06:01 PM
Yeah, Palps definitely needs a refresh. I've relegated the Ep1 Senator Palpatine figure to the very back of my Senate shelf.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 17, 2010, 07:02 PM
so is that list Jono is reporting a confirmed list of figures for that wave?

No, it's what he wanted to see come out. Aurra Sing, however, has been confirmed by Hasbro for this wave.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 17, 2010, 09:25 PM
Yeah, Palps definitely needs a refresh. I've relegated the Ep1 Senator Palpatine figure to the very back of my Senate shelf.

You are kind. I relegated him and many others from that era to the chopping block or sales list. B'gone wit dem!
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: jono on May 18, 2010, 06:31 AM
Sorry to cause confusion -that was just my wishlist.

Is Aurra sing confirmed for spring 11? Hasbro said if the schedule holds we will see her next year -suggesting a late 2011 release perhaphs?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 18, 2010, 08:00 AM
so is that list Jono is reporting a confirmed list of figures for that wave?

No, it's what he wanted to see come out. Aurra Sing, however, has been confirmed by Hasbro for this wave.

Well, unfortunately I'm lame enough to feel like a bad version is better than no version at all...though I make exceptions (POTF2 R5D4).
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 18, 2010, 11:23 AM
in regards to Aurra I think they just kinda said she would be coming either this year or next
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: jedi_master_sal on May 18, 2010, 12:26 PM
in regards to Aurra I think they just kinda said she would be coming either this year or next


I'm digging the Animated version. I'll get her, and may just get another to put with my realistic collection.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 - TPM
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 18, 2010, 12:51 PM
in regards to Aurra I think they just kinda said she would be coming either this year or next


I'm digging the Animated version. I'll get her, and may just get another to put with my realistic collection.

completely agree with you
Title: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 12, 2010, 09:49 PM
GH has a picture (http://www.galactichunter.com/gh/story/remains-day-dr-evazan-aayla-secura-scrap-bar2-d2-wax) from CV of what appears to be an all-new "drawing board" Dr. Evazan.

For a future TVC ANH wave?
Title: Re: "The Vintage Collection" ANH Wave?
Post by: Jesse James on August 12, 2010, 11:15 PM
I was checking that out earlier...  I can't recall the myriad of rumors separated from the myriad of BS, but I thought it was pretty clear from the Q&A's or something solid that Evazan and Ponda Baba were both getting figures.  It's just cool that Adam May posted the concept designs for him from one of the sculptors who must've tagged along onto the show down in Orlando.

That's cool ****.

Likewise cool is Aayla Secura's figure...  She'll have ball-jointed hips I see.

Evazan, short of seeing a sculpt of course, is shaping up awesome.  Right down to a pointing-in-Luke's-chest left finger!  That's badass.

"You watch yourself!  I have the death sentence on 12 systems!"

Just sickeningly cool.  I'd buy another ANH Luke from the battlepack right this second just to put with Evazan and Baba now.
Title: Re: "The Vintage Collection" ANH Wave?
Post by: Jeff on August 12, 2010, 11:39 PM
For a future TVC ANH wave?

Just a reminder that Hasbro said in a recent Q&A answer that movie themed waves are dead as of Spring 2011.  There will be no "ANH wave" and even the "TPM" themed wave may be getting shuffled...

I thought it was pretty clear from the Q&A's or something solid that Evazan and Ponda Baba were both getting figures.

Yes, both Evazan and Ponda are on tap for 2011 (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2010/02/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-23.html).
Title: Re: "The Vintage Collection" ANH Wave?
Post by: Scott on August 12, 2010, 11:49 PM
So is Bom Vimdin
Title: Re: "The Vintage Collection" ANH Wave?
Post by: SnTrooper on August 13, 2010, 12:05 AM
According to various Q&As there was going to be an ANH wave this year but then it got pushed back to 2011. Then it got split up throughout the year (and maybe even into the next if that Tarkin got pushed back to 2012 rumor is true).
Title: Re: "The Vintage Collection" ANH Wave?
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 13, 2010, 12:49 AM
For a future TVC ANH wave?

Just a reminder that Hasbro said in a recent Q&A answer that movie themed waves are dead as of Spring 2011.  There will be no "ANH wave" and even the "TPM" themed wave may be getting shuffled...

Just to refreshen my memory, but how will the upcoming TVC waves be organized/divided? I'm not sure if I understand this whole concept of "no movie"-organized waves.
Title: Re: "The Vintage Collection" ANH Wave?
Post by: Jesse James on August 13, 2010, 02:22 AM
Things will be mixed is all...  It's happened in the past.

I seem to recall hearing a lil something about 2011 giving us a new bulbous white helmeted trooper too.  ;)  I remain hopeful that certain folks are keeping those plans in the works.
Title: Re: "The Vintage Collection" ANH Wave?
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 13, 2010, 03:17 AM
Likewise cool is Aayla Secura's figure...  She'll have ball-jointed hips I see.

Just how a Jedi action figure should be! Ball-jointed hips (a must, especially for Aayla), a cloak (judging by the drawing), and lightsaber. Very impressive figure.
Title: Re: "The Vintage Collection" ANH Wave?
Post by: Matt R. on August 13, 2010, 04:37 AM
I hope we get a sneak peak at Tarkin, Bespin Han (please be all new and not the trenchcoat han body  :P ), maybe the tantive IV rebel trooper.  Hopefully they announce a Hoth Luke for next year
Title: Re: The "Vintage" Collection 2011 Wave 2
Post by: Brian on August 13, 2010, 10:41 AM
For some reason I was thinking the last "movie themed" wave was going to be the AOTC wave this year.  It was originally going to last until the Fall, but then got switched up.  I guess I don't have a big problem with the mix, since some movies are a lot more "complete" than others and that's how it was back in the POTJ days - and that was one of my favorite lines.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: John C on August 13, 2010, 11:16 AM
Are they supposed to card that awesome ANH Luke from the battlepack? 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 13, 2010, 01:00 PM
Are they supposed to card that awesome ANH Luke from the battlepack? 

So far nobody's said anything about that. But I'm hoping that it happens, because I never scored that BP.

And when is the Hasbro panel supposed to be over at CV?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 15, 2010, 12:40 PM
Nice find. Nice "all but confirmed" conformation.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: jono on August 15, 2010, 03:06 PM
Great to see they are working on the Good Doctor.

Going by the Q and A's  Dr E is scheduled for winter 2011 along with Walrus man and Bom -still things change - hopefully well get them sooner!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on August 15, 2010, 04:37 PM
I can't wait for Evezan and Bom, been far too long since the last cantina offerings, so I'm hoping these guys'll be a little sooner than late 2011. These two are, for me, the last two must haves for the cantina. I'll buy any and all new ones they come out with, but if these were the last two, i'd be happy.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Rob on August 15, 2010, 05:56 PM
been far too long since the last cantina offerings

Didn't we get a whole cantina wave like 6 months ago?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Scott on August 15, 2010, 11:35 PM
Per the Q&A and other place the following have all been confirmed:

OT
Han Solo (Bespin)
Dr Evazan
Ponda Baba
Bom Vimdin
Wedge Antilles
Weequay Skiff Master

PT
Aurra Sing
Ratts Tyrell
Barriss Offee
Aayla Secura

EU
Bastilla Shan
Nom Anor

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 16, 2010, 12:16 AM
Per the Q&A and other place the following have all been confirmed:

OT
Han Solo (Bespin)
Dr Evazan
Ponda Baba
Bom Vimdin
Wedge Antilles
Weequay Skiff Master

PT
Aurra Sing
Bastilla Shan
Nom Anor
Barriss Offee

Plus we have via the sheet at C5...
Aayla Secura




Just to add to your list:

EU - Nom Anor, Bastila Shan
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Scott on August 16, 2010, 12:18 AM
Oops...they are on there under PT :-X
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: jono on August 16, 2010, 08:31 AM
Just to add another ... Ratts Tyrell.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Scott on August 16, 2010, 08:50 AM
Good one...added
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 26, 2010, 08:23 PM
RS has an exclusive podcast interview (http://www.forcecast.net/story/home/ForceCast_Live_From_CV_Collectors_Edition_133482.asp) w/ a Hasbro rep (Derryl DePriest?) and all the characters from above were re-confirmed, all for 2011.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: jono on September 1, 2010, 03:38 AM
Anyone care to guess who might be in this first mixed wave?

I'll kick things of -New sculpt -Weequay skiff master.
                        RE-pack -Stormtrooper.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Matt R. on September 1, 2010, 07:55 AM
Qui-gon (GH), Dooku (GH), Tarkin, Bespin Han, Weequay, EP1 Obiwan (updated), Wedge. that my guess
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: jono on September 1, 2010, 08:30 AM
Tarkin would be great -though one of the rumour guys posted something about a delay to 2012.
Bespin Han -yes please!
Also i'd love to see something leftfield like Tantive Fleet Trooper or Bom v.

Anyway not long till we find out -line up reveal with pics in next Q and A. :)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Matt R. on September 1, 2010, 08:39 AM
I hope the long waited Bespin Han is ALL NEW, NOT the VTSC Endor Han. Hasbro has gave Luke love for the past 2 years now, it Han's turn.  I believe the long delay of him is that he is the final Han left to do (if any of us can think of one more Han).
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: jono on September 1, 2010, 08:44 AM
You can relax. It was confirmed at CV that he is all new -Great Head sculpt to!!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 1, 2010, 05:52 PM
I hope Han Bespin is in the 2011 Wave 1 that we will see next week. He is long overdue. I hope he does not have a ball jointed Torso, if anything make him like the new ROTJ Luke.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 1, 2010, 06:25 PM
I wonder what the "anchor" figure for this wave will be. If I recall correctly, not even Han Solo gets an 'A' rating, which means maybe it'll be a lightsaber-wielding character? Hmm.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Captain Piet on September 4, 2010, 03:43 PM
I hope Han Bespin is in the 2011 Wave 1 that we will see next week. He is long overdue. I hope he does not have a ball jointed Torso, if anything make him like the new ROTJ Luke.

Why will we be seeing that wave next week?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 2
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 4, 2010, 04:13 PM
Why will we be seeing that wave next week?

Hasbro will be showing the 2011 wave in the upcoming Q/A session. I'm not sure exactly how that will work, but they've said it will be shown, since they were kinda lacking with 2011 sneak peeks at SDCC and CV.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: jono on September 7, 2010, 04:17 AM
As the anticipation mounts here  is what i'd love to see for this wave-

Bom Vimdin
Rebel Fleet Trooper
Bespin Han
Weeqauy Skiffmaster
Count Dooku
Commander Gree

GH
Luke -Jedi
Jango Fett
Sandtrooper
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Brian on September 10, 2010, 08:52 PM
I was sort of hoping that Q and A would hit today so we could get a peek at this wave.  I thought the next round was due this week, but I know sometimes they get a little bit behind.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Nicklab on September 11, 2010, 01:31 AM
A message went out to the participating sites, and they're still working on this particular round.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 11, 2010, 02:37 PM
A message went out to the participating sites, and they're still working on this particular round.

Whew, that's good to know. I too am insanely excited for this round of Q/A. Hopefully it comes out this Monday.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Brian on September 13, 2010, 08:59 PM
A message went out to the participating sites, and they're still working on this particular round.

Whew, that's good to know. I too am insanely excited for this round of Q/A. Hopefully it comes out this Monday.

Yeah, I'm really anxious to see that next wave preview as well.  Hopefully it isn't delayed too long.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 13, 2010, 11:28 PM
WHEN WILL THIS Q/A SESSION COME OUT?! ::)

Hurry, Hasbro! (Please! :D)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 14, 2010, 11:21 PM
RS.com specifically asked a question in the Q/A as to the TVC 2011 Wave 1 reveal.

And Hasbro dodged it. BS, man! :-\

I'm so sick of Hasbro's incompetent answers. I know they're not at liberty to reveal so much and stuff, but sometimes they're so full of BS. This time, specifically, because they kept saying how they would show off 2011 Wave 1 completely in the Q/A. And they didn't.

At least they said they'll show it off sometime soon... ::)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Rob on September 14, 2010, 11:34 PM
They don't have to do Q&A's at all.  I think we should be happy with whatever bit of information they decide to share.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Jesse James on September 14, 2010, 11:40 PM
^Seconded...

The Q&A's a unique insight into the workings of Hasbro, and their lines.  The pictures may not have been available, or may have changed.  I don't know.  They're not obligated to give them out and I'll wait...  I wanted to see them too, but I'll live a little while longer.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: 501ST on September 15, 2010, 12:34 AM
RS.com specifically asked a question in the Q/A as to the TVC 2011 Wave 1 reveal.

And Hasbro dodged it. BS, man! :-\

I'm so sick of Hasbro's incompetent answers. I know they're not at liberty to reveal so much and stuff, but sometimes they're so full of BS. This time, specifically, because they kept saying how they would show off 2011 Wave 1 completely in the Q/A. And they didn't.

At least they said they'll show it off sometime soon... ::)

Getting this level of Q&A from a company for yet to be released product is not common and only likely able to occur at all due to Hasbro not having a competitor as such for SW 3&3/4" (a benefit of a licensing agreement) so that the usual reason for not releasing too much info is able to be set aside.

Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Brian on September 19, 2010, 04:35 PM
I was working my way through the latest "collector podcast" from TF.N (with Curto, etc.) and they have a phone interview with Derryl DePriest included.  They brought up the topic of this wave (pics are still due between now and the next Q and A), and although he wouldn't give a list of names, he did say that this wave (the first "mixed" wave) is going to be 1 "all new" figure, 3 "refresh" (I think he means updated/resculpted) figures, and 2 repacks (first time on vintage cards).  He mentioned that it is a smaller wave (particularly "new" figure wise), because the following wave is full of newer stuff.  The plan for now is for it to hit a couple weeks after the AOTC wave, with the following (2011 Wave 2 I guess) coming shortly after that (basically waves 4 (AOTC), 5 (2011 Wave 1), and 6 (2011 Wave 2) hitting from Jan to March.

He also mentioned that the plan is continued to go every six weeks with a new wave hitting, but there might be a bit longer of a stretch from March to July/August, with maybe only one new vintage wave hitting in that time.  Anyways, the discussing starts around the 25 minute mark in the podcast, for those wanting to listen.  Also, as a side note, they did mention that they have a 10 figure wave hitting towards the end of 2011 that they may have to split up because of the amount of new sculpts included.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 19, 2010, 05:02 PM
He also mentioned that the plan is continued to go every six weeks with a new wave hitting, but there might be a bit longer of a stretch from March to July/August, with maybe only one new vintage wave hitting in that time.  

Dang, that's a very long stretch. Although Hasbro put in a lot of effort into kicking off the TVC line w/ the first few waves for 2010, it seems that the beginning of 2011 will be used to work on the TCW line. That's to me, anyway. Hasbro has already shown so many following waves of TCW compared to TVC, and with Season 3 already out, a lot of energy might be going there.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Darby on September 19, 2010, 07:26 PM
That follows the pattern established in the last few years, though Hasbro has said at recent cons that this wouldn't be the case.  It's fine with me, but you have to wonder if the lack of product over a 4 month period has an impact on the line.

Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Brian on September 20, 2010, 10:36 AM
Yeah, I'd have to listen to it again to be sure, but what I gathered is we could potentially see the AOTC wave and the first two 2011 waves (mixed waves) within a three month span (Jan-Mar), then a bit of a break until the next wave (2011 Wave 3 I guess).  Not too bad I guess, if that is the case.  Three waves to hunt down for the first half of the year, and maybe another new one in the summer, before getting some more stuff in the fall again.  Didn't they give a count of 40-some figures for 2011 (in the Vintage Collection) again?  If so, that would at least spread things out a little more hopefully, instead of having everything hit in the last four months of the year again.
Title: Re: Wave 5
Post by: Brian on October 28, 2010, 04:43 PM
So it looks like (via the Yakface Q and A (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=125&p=92095#p92095) that we at least have a listing for that first "mixed wave" of 2011 - and it leaves room for some guessing until we see some pics (as to which versions at least):

VC 38 - Clonetrooper (Episode II)
VC 39 - Luke Skywalker
VC 40 - R5-D4
VC 41 - Stormtrooper
VC 42 - Han Solo
VC 43 - Commander Gree

Overall, unless there are some changes that we're not anticipating, this is a light wave for new figures (and even lighter for "new" characters).  I would think that the Clonetrooper, R5-D4, and Gree would be repacks (although you never know).  I thought that there was rumors at one point of an "ultimate" Stormtrooper, so it is possible that could be new.  I'm really hoping the Han is the Bespin version (please), and not sure about the Luke (but Hoth would be great).
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Jeff on October 28, 2010, 04:43 PM
Nice to finally see this list.  I look forward to finding out which Han and Luke those are.  Part of me hopes it's the Bespin Han, but I thought he was delayed until Fall 2011?  Hope it's not just a repack...
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (aka 2011 Wave ?)
Post by: Brian on October 28, 2010, 04:50 PM
Nice to finally see this list.  I look forward to finding out which Han and Luke those are.  Part of me hopes it's the Bespin Han, but I thought he was delayed until Fall 2011?  Hope it's not just a repack...

Same here, really hoping that is a Bespin Han Solo.  If it does end up being a repack, I hope it is the original VOTC version.  That is a really nice figure that, although it was on clearance in some areas for a time, hasn't ever been released "as is" since then.  Either way, hoping for Bespin Han.  I'm wondering on the Luke.  We've really gotten some pretty nice Luke figures over the past few years, that all I could see would be an all-new Hoth Luke or a repack of the Resurgence BP Luke (which would be nice too).  I don't really mind seeing someone like R5-D4 in there, just to have it on a vinty cardback, but I know others could care less about that.  Not a real exciting wave for those wanting all new characters though, but it could be pretty nice if the Han and Luke are new versions.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jayson on October 28, 2010, 05:18 PM
Images on our facebook (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=235091&id=202559486798) page
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on October 28, 2010, 05:46 PM
This is a nicely done, but very boring wave, which pretty much sums up my feelings on every Vintage wave save the Jedi one. Nicely sculpted but very boring. I wonder if there is a 7th unshown figure for this group. Was really hoping Bom would be in with this group.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Matt R. on October 28, 2010, 05:50 PM
they are cool, but it is not much a mixed wave were are the ESB and AOTC figures ?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Darby on October 28, 2010, 06:29 PM
There's clearly been some sort of change based off prior reports (one of each film save for TPM).  This is essentially a repack/repaint wave.  Makes you think.  Also, the figures are all good, but incredibly boring.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Scockery on October 28, 2010, 07:04 PM
Fun for the vintage card lover, but I find that wave mostly worthless.

Yavin Ceremony Han...really? Laziest thing ever.

Stormtrooper sounds nice...but they went with the 30th Anniversary helmet "eyes and headband connected" look. Not a big fan of that.

I never got that Gree or R5-D4, but don't care enough to pay $8.

Luke looks prissier than ever.

Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Scott on October 28, 2010, 07:07 PM
Yawn...

I'll never figure out if tooling dollars are tight why even bother resculpting already good figures.  There is NO reason why Resurgance Luke and VOTC Han can't be rereleased with new accessories.  Instead they retool them for no real reason at added cost...

This may be the first wave of 6 I pass on completely as I don't need any of those...although I may buy Luke
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: jono on October 28, 2010, 07:19 PM
A Very Tedious Selection.

Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on October 28, 2010, 07:41 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010TVC_Wave5LukeSkywalker01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010TVC_Wave5HanCeremony01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010TVC_Wave5R5D401_TN.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010TVC_Wave5CmdrGree01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010TVC_Wave5UtapauClone01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010TVC_Wave5Stormtrooper01_TN.jpg)
All out on the front page. (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1288309028,46460,)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on October 28, 2010, 07:42 PM
Let me reiterate what Scott said, more or less...

I have some hope for Luke, but man some of these look bad.  I may buy Han just to swap a better head onto him, but color me disappointed with this wave, top to bottom.  

I'm going to expand a little here now...

-Luke Skywalker...  Luke's the most appealing figure revealed because, currently, we don't have a decent DSE Luke and so that's cool.  The problem, and they're prototypes so you can't really judge, but the problem is Luke's headsculpt...  Man, i hope that changes a lot between now and release day.

-Han Solo Medal Ceremony...  Right behind Luke as I'd dig a ceremony Han to go with Luke who looks incredibly queasy...  That's a fairly f'd up headsculpt though (again, prototype, things can change), and I'm disappointed to see his holster isn't strapped to his leg.  It's a huge plus to the figure if they'd fix that, so I'm hopeful some things change but I'm not counting on it.

-R5-D4...  Uhm, I'm fine with the one I have, so I'm kinda meh on this one at all.  Unless something's significantly better, then I don't care.

-Cmdr. Gree...  Same as above.  Nothing wrong with the one I have.  Short of this one being vastly improved, why care?

-Utapau Clone...  I'll buy one.  I have dozens of these guys, one more won't hurt with super duper articulation, but otherwise it's boring to me.

-Imperial Stormtrooper...  Ultimate super duper articulated Stormtroopers are cool, but honestly I like the Sandtrooper out now better than this, plus more gear.  Not to mention (again, the whole prototype disclaimer applies) the completely ****** looking helmet and rifle.  That figure's attrocious in that photo I think, but that's me.  I'll pick one up to "fix".  Otherwise I'm buying some more Sandtroopers out right now because they're miles superior looking, come with the field pack and pauldron, and rock a cooler gun for sure.  Piss on this guy.

Sorry Hasbro, but this wave's an epic fail so far, to use the term the kids love these days.   :-\  Maybe things will improve when production images surface.  That'sa lot of improvement needed to overcome the bad though.  I dunno. 
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: iFett on October 28, 2010, 07:50 PM
This is the first time since 01 that I am seriously loosing interest in the "main" line.  If it weren't for the vinty cards, then I would only be buying select figures.  Last time I'm doing another carded collection....meh   :-\
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Master_Phruby on October 28, 2010, 07:52 PM
I didn't know Han was suffering from AIDS.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Brian on October 28, 2010, 07:52 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed as well.  I mean, the figures look nice enough, but it just seems like some potential was missed.  Like Scott mentioned, why not save the money and just re-release the VOTC Han or Resurgence Luke if you're going to do these versions anyways.  Heck, I'd be perfectly fine with a repack of the VOTC Han with an included medal accessory and call it good (despite the minor differences).  R5-D4 is an understandable repack, to get him on a vintage card, and it wasn't exactly a crazy common figure in the first place.  The Utapau Clone and Stormtrooper look to have some articulation upgrades, so that's ok too I guess.  But overall, yeah, sort of a yawn from me as well.  I know I'm more forgiving than many with these waves consisting pretty much of resculpts/upgrades and repacks, so I'm wondering if this might be one that's left on the pegs a fair amount.

I remember in one of those Collecting Podcasts from Curto that DePriest mentioned this being a smaller wave with only "one significantly new" figure because the next wave was supposed to be more "new" (and larger I believe).  If that's the case, that's great too, because this wave does seem a little boring.  I guess I had my hopes up for the long awaited Bespin Han, even though I didn't think it was coming until later either.  I'll likely pick up the majority of the wave anyways, as I like Han well enough, Luke looks good, and I could always use more Stormies and the Utapau clones.  Gree I could probably do without, and R5-D4 I may pick up an extra.  Nice enough figures, but sort of a let down for the wave.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on October 28, 2010, 07:55 PM
See my updated post above for my further thoughts.  All pretty sour.  :-X
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: CorranHorn on October 28, 2010, 08:15 PM
The biggest issue I have with the Han is that they put the re-tooling on the wrong part. Instead of giving him a new head, they should have re-tooled the torso - Han's shirt was buttoned all the way up during the medal ceremony. It's great to see the VOTC sculpt back out, but this could have been done better.   :'(
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on October 28, 2010, 08:26 PM
Yes!  I knew I forgot something, and it's that shirt.  Why bother even doing this figure if you're not going to fix the one thing he had different, his shirt being buttoned.  Good eye there Jason, I forgot that completely.

Further crap.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Master_Phruby on October 28, 2010, 08:29 PM
I don't think these are worth $10 that TRU is charging.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: EpicGon on October 28, 2010, 08:32 PM
As a Ot collector I would like to get Luke and Han from this wave
minor tweaks on Han: his shirt is not closed (as needed for the Yavin Ceremony), however his legs have improved, cause they are not merely tubular and thin, now the thighs have better shape.

Luke: I find his head enough decent, with a young looking, but I would have prefer his legs were a bit longer and as see from this prototype, not so tubular.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Darby on October 28, 2010, 08:34 PM
Word.

(http://www.galacticbinder.com/images/head-scratchers/star-wars-medal-ceremony.jpg)

Why bother?

Luke=OK, but not where I would spent my tooling budget.

R5-D4=One for the carded collectors

Stormtrooper=It's available right now as the Sandtrooper and no one wants it

Utapau Trooper=Definitely the biggest net win of the wave

Gree=completely unnecessary.  
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Diddly on October 28, 2010, 08:41 PM
Awful. Gotta agree with everyone else, what a letdown of a wave.

- Luke: I might pick him up since he looks like an improvement over the Resurgence BP version (soft goods skirt, white shirt). Best of the wave, but that isn't saying much.
- Han: Where to start? Non-film accurate shirt, horrible headsculpt, and they still haven't fixed his holster. Major pass.
- R5-D4: For some reason I laughed when I saw him. Why bother? If they resculpted him to match the new redone R2 I'll pick him up.
- Gree: Another huge WTF. Probably just wanted another movie commander to have a vintage card with Cody. Pass.
- Utapau Clone/Stormie: Look good, but I'll probably pass. IF the Clone's orange matches the new Gree I'll get one or two. If the Stormie's helmet looks good, again, I'll get one or two, but I honestly think I have enough Stormtroopers. :o

The lone positive is that this looks like a wave I can pass on entirely, which means more money to save (and by save I mean "spend on other things").
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Brian on October 28, 2010, 08:48 PM
Yes!  I knew I forgot something, and it's that shirt.  Why bother even doing this figure if you're not going to fix the one thing he had different, his shirt being buttoned.  Good eye there Jason, I forgot that completely.

Further crap.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.  If you're not going to make that fix (the shirt) anyways, why not just re-release the original VOTC Han "as is".  Throw in the medal as an accessory and call it good if you want, but I for one prefer the original head sculpt and figure if this is all they are going to do with it.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jeff on October 28, 2010, 08:57 PM
-Han Solo Medal Ceremony...  Right behind Luke as I'd dig a ceremony Han to go with Luke who looks incredibly queasy...  That's a fairly f'd up headsculpt though (again, prototype, things can change), and I'm disappointed to see his holster isn't strapped to his leg.  It's a huge plus to the figure if they'd fix that, so I'm hopeful some things change but I'm not counting on it.

The biggest issue I have with the Han is that they put the re-tooling on the wrong part. Instead of giving him a new head, they should have re-tooled the torso - Han's shirt was buttoned all the way up during the medal ceremony. It's great to see the VOTC sculpt back out, but this could have been done better.   :'(

Um... I don't think that's a prototype/new head, it looks like the recent DSE Han to me:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC/Basic/BD30Han/LC-1717.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010TVC_Wave5HanCeremony01_Full.jpg)

Looks like all they did is swap out the stormtrooper belt for Han's gun belt and added the medal.

Talk about disappointment...  :-\
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Scockery on October 28, 2010, 10:01 PM
Hands behind back, so that probably means his sleeves are unchanged and therefore are wrong, too.

For fun, I circled the characters they could've made.
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6954/circlefun.jpg)


Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Matt R. on October 28, 2010, 10:40 PM
R5-D4 looks like a repaint of the B.A.D. R5 sculpt.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 28, 2010, 10:51 PM
Wow, a lack-luster wave. Luke is the only real newish figure out of the whole bunch. I didn't think it would be possible to be disappointed, but, here I am.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2010, 11:05 PM
6 re-dos, 3 troopers... and pretty much none of them look like substantial upgrades over the last version.

I've been really happy with most of what Hasbro's been doing lately, but this wave is a complete clunker.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: P-Siddy on October 28, 2010, 11:09 PM
Hopefully this wave won't be mass-produced and clogging the pegs for '11Wave 2.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Diddly on October 28, 2010, 11:38 PM
R5-D4 looks like a repaint of the B.A.D. R5 sculpt.

Took another look and you're right, you can clearly see the extra holes on the side.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jeff on October 28, 2010, 11:39 PM
I noticed that JTWR got a bit of clarification on this wave in their Q&A (http://www.jeditemplewarroom.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=dfe81c298187c2c93cefe54ef4819d15&topic=3598.0) session:

- Cody's 212th Battalion Trooper (ball and socket hips)
- Stormtrooper (ball and socket hips)
- Commander Gree (EPIII, a straight repack)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on October 29, 2010, 12:06 AM
Yeah it seemed like the Stormtrooper's at least a mod of the Sandtrooper, a little different.  God willing though, that helmet won't be what he comes with. 

The 212th Utapau Trooper appeared to be a repaint of the current ROTS clone in the vintage line if I had to guess.  The removable helmet and whatnot.

Gree will have just enough of a paint difference to piss folks off, ala Cody. :)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 29, 2010, 12:10 AM
WOW. When I saw the first few pictures on Scum's page, I was already afraid to click the entire article.

Luke and Stormtrooper are perhaps the only figures I'll buy from this wave (I don't have the Resurgence BP one). I like the effort on this one, the soft-goods skirt alone seems to fix the entire figure from its former BP release.

The astromech droid is laughable. TVC is $8 - a whole $1 mainly for the packaging look - and this figure 1. has no accessories, and 2. is mostly an accessory.

The Han figure just sucks. Like Jeff pointed out above, it looks like Hasbro re-used the headsculpt from the '10 LC Death Star Escape figure. Why does Hasbro keep releasing unwanted Han Solo figures, even though they give him a "C" grade? Hoth Han is already pegwarming.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 29, 2010, 12:36 AM
This "new" Han has been in my collection ever since the DS escape version was released. I modded all of my VOTC Hans. This wave would be fine as a bonus wave but since it's not this is just a resounding disappointment all around.

Even with this crap line up why would you put Gree in there? He is a Saga Legends figure for Yoda's sake. That's the repack you chose Hasbro, really?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Ben on October 29, 2010, 01:06 AM
I suppose they had to rebuild some equity after spending a lot of tooling dollars on the Jedi wave. I'll probably pick up a few depending on how their cards look, but I'm certainly not going to buy any for my loose collection.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 29, 2010, 01:08 AM
I'll likely grab at least one Stormtrooper since I don't yet have a ball-jointed hip version yet.  It's more out of curiosity that I'd pick it up.

I may grab a Luke since I need a newer one for my Cantina display, but I'll wait and see how that facesculpt ends up.  
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jayson on October 29, 2010, 01:39 AM
This "new" Han has been in my collection ever since the DS escape version was released. I modded all of my VOTC Hans. This wave would be fine as a bonus wave but since it's not this is just a resounding disappointment all around.

Even with this crap line up why would you put Gree in there? He is a Saga Legends figure for Yoda's sake. That's the repack you chose Hasbro, really?

Plus, Gree was a "Greatest Hits (http://www.rebelscum.com/tlcGH01Gree.asp)" figure in 2008.

I'm also in the camp of this being a ho-hum wave. I think they might be relying little too hard on the Vintage packaging to sell some of these.

If I was a "typical" collector, I'd pass on all but the Luke for the following reasons:
Utapau Clone (I don't like the BJ hips)
Stormtrooper (cuz we have it already in the Sandtrooper release)
R5-D4 (the TSC one is superior in design)
Gree (see above)
Han (a better one can be made with existing figures in my collection).
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Rob on October 29, 2010, 01:43 AM
Gree will have just enough of a paint difference to piss folks off, ala Cody. :)

I thought Cody was a straight repack?  What's the paint difference?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jayson on October 29, 2010, 01:48 AM
Gree will have just enough of a paint difference to piss folks off, ala Cody. :)

I thought Cody was a straight repack?  What's the paint difference?

The belt is in the correct orientation and the shoulder antenna is now silver (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TVC/basicfigures/VC19/lf33.html).
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on October 29, 2010, 01:50 AM
Just enough to piss ya off.  ;)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 29, 2010, 01:55 AM
I may grab a Luke since I need a newer one for my Cantina display, but I'll wait and see how that facesculpt ends up.  

I hadn't paid close enough attention to the Stormtrooper belt on him, so obviously this version of Luke wouldn't be right for the Cantina.  Never mind.  ::)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Rob on October 29, 2010, 01:57 AM
Thanks guys... have to decide if a silver antenna is worth $8.50.

I don't think that it is.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Blaster under the pillow on October 29, 2010, 05:22 AM
I can't see myself picking up anything but the Luke. I like the belt with the grappling hook and that comlink might be removable. If he comes with a newly scaled E-11 I'd be happy.

There's not much I can say about the others that hasn't been mentioned. Between the Jedi and Clones wave, my wallet will probably enjoy the rest.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: speedermike on October 29, 2010, 10:06 AM
Jeez...what a friggin' bore.  Yeah, I'll buy Luke.  But that's it. Maybe I'll get Han.  Would have been different had his collar been closed.  Boy, this line is suckin' harder than I could have imagined.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Brian on October 29, 2010, 10:24 AM
I'm really trying to figure out what I'll pick up from this wave as well.  I have been trying to keep up a carded collection of the OT figures, so I may grab those just for that reason.  The original Utapau trooper was in pretty short supply here locally, so I wouldn't mind having a couple more.  Thinking about it further, I might just pick up a carded Han and call it good.  I usually buy multiples of most Han figures, but I'm just not a huge fan of this one - like it was said, if it had the more accurate closed shirt, that would be a little different.

I sort of like the Luke, depending on what the final product looks like, and the cloth skirt is a nice plus.  I've wanted an extra R5-D4, so I might get one just for that.  I'm always up for a few more Stormtroopers, but like others have said, if it is mainly like the current Sandtrooper - that isn't exactly in short supply locally either.  I usually preorder a set of the wave with The Vintage Collection, but with this one I might just wait for retail.  I just don't see many of these flying off the pegs, unless it is really shipped quickly and followed up by something else.  I kind of like some of the figures in this wave, but with it being so boring I sometimes worry things like this might have a negative effect on the "success" of TVC in Hasbro's eyes.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Scott on October 29, 2010, 10:54 AM
I suppose they had to rebuild some equity after spending a lot of tooling dollars on the Jedi wave. I'll probably pick up a few depending on how their cards look, but I'm certainly not going to buy any for my loose collection.
So, again, why even spend ANY money on this wave at all...you have all of these figures already made in superior forms to the ones you are putting out...put those out again if that is what you want to do to save some dough in the long term.  It is just stupid IMO
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Scockery on October 29, 2010, 11:02 AM
The astromech droid is laughable. TVC is $8 - a whole $1 mainly for the packaging look - and this figure 1. has no accessories, and 2. is mostly an accessory.

What I said on the 'scum forum, R5-D4 is what we would've got free (piece by piece) had B.A.D. continued. 
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: speedermike on October 29, 2010, 11:38 AM
I kind of like some of the figures in this wave, but with it being so boring I sometimes worry things like this might have a negative effect on the "success" of TVC in Hasbro's eyes.

Of course it well effect the success of this line if even hardcore guys like us are saying we wont buy 80% of the product Hasbro is shipping.
Yes, the Jedi wave will sell well, that is if anyone stocks it since my local stores are jammed with the ESB wave.  But man...this wave is just such a turkey...
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jeff on October 29, 2010, 12:26 PM
why even spend ANY money on this wave at all...you have all of these figures already made in superior forms to the ones you are putting out...put those out again if that is what you want to do to save some dough in the long term.  It is just stupid IMO

I am 100% there with you on Han.  I still can't understand what they were thinking with him.

As a Yavin IV Ceremony Han he fails (wrong shirt, wrong sleeves).  It's just the 2009 DSE Han minus the Stormtrooper Belt, plus the gun belt and medal.  The worst part is that this abomination will set back the chances of getting a "real" Ceremony Han with the correct shirt/look.  :(

If Hasbro's intent was for folks to take off the medal and have a plain "Cantina" Han, well he also fails there.  If that was their intent, why bother to tweak the 2009 DSE Han at all?  Why not just use the 2004 VOTC Han plus medal? 

If they weren't going to attach the gunbelt to his leg (like they did for the new Bespin Luke), at least the VOTC Han had the leg strap sculpted on to his leg to fake it.  The DSE Han doesn't have that leg strap, so it's a step backwards in my mind.  It's funny - that ONE detail, attaching the holster to his leg like Bespin Luke, could have changed my whole outlook on this one...

Oh well, ultimately it doesn't matter.  I already know that I'll still buy 1x to keep with my carded Han collection and then I'll move on to waiting for Bespin Han... hopefully they don't screw him up too.  :-\
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 29, 2010, 01:14 PM
Oh well, ultimately it doesn't matter.  I already know that I'll still buy 1x to keep with my carded Han collection and then I'll move on to waiting for Bespin Han... hopefully they don't screw him up too.  :-\

That's one figure they better not screw up. I will quit if they do. I hope the line survives until his release.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: P-Siddy on October 29, 2010, 03:30 PM
Couldn't Han be 'improved' by using Smuggler Lando's torso? His shirt's buttoned up.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 29, 2010, 08:58 PM
Thanks guys... have to decide if a silver antenna is worth $8.50.

I don't think that it is.

Yeah, I'm not sure this will be enough to get me to buy it either.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Siths Herald on October 29, 2010, 10:26 PM
Couldn't Han be 'improved' by using Smuggler Lando's torso? His shirt's buttoned up.

Oh, you mean like this?  :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/redfox75/Custom%20Figures/AwardCeremonyHanSoloI.jpg)


After looking at the figures in this wave, I can honestly say it'll be good to take a wave off.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JediMoses on October 29, 2010, 10:35 PM
Any chance that this wave seems a bit thrown together because it was a TPM wave that got bounced for the 3D release in Fall 2011?  Hasbro suggests they delaying the TPM figs in one of the Q and A? 

Steve that Han looks nice
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 30, 2010, 01:40 AM
I guess this is Hasbro's "gift" to us after the amazing ROTJ and AOTC waves. :-\
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on October 30, 2010, 02:11 AM
Something's a little off on the Lando torso, don't know why.  Maybe the bulk of the shirt, I'm not sure.  I'd really prefer seeing them just resculpt that torso and set of arms all together I guess.  That new Han's looking like a space turd so far.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: 501ST on October 30, 2010, 07:03 AM
Steve that Han looks nice

+2  ;D
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Brian on October 30, 2010, 10:12 AM
Oh well, ultimately it doesn't matter.  I already know that I'll still buy 1x to keep with my carded Han collection and then I'll move on to waiting for Bespin Han... hopefully they don't screw him up too.  :-\

That's one figure they better not screw up. I will quit if they do. I hope the line survives until his release.

Agreed.  Definitely my most anticipated figure, and I hope it is done up well.

I noticed in one of the Q and A answers this week (can't remember which site, I was reading the summary at JTA) they mentioned that R5-D4 is coming out, but he won't be a repack (this was prior to the reveal).  Is R5 actually a new sculpt, and if so, why?  I guess I was pretty satisfied with the previous version.

EDIT:  Here's Hasbro's answer (from LICHTGESCHWINDIGKEIT (SPEED OF LIGHT))

Quote
.....We won't have as many instances of taking an existing figures and repacking on Vintage cards (a sort of "Greatest Hits" approach for Vintage) in '11 as we did in '10, which leaves a wider berth for more true new/refreshed figures. What we will try to do is make sure that we have waves with an exciting mix of 5-7 figures spaced more evenly across the course of the year. R5-D4 will be coming out, but he won't be a repack. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: speedermike on October 30, 2010, 10:38 AM
Technically, he's not a repack.  It's the BAD body, correct?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Darby on October 30, 2010, 10:40 AM
Based on the pic, R5 is the BAD sculpt.  

Obviously TPM 3D changed Hasbro's plans quite a bit.   The TPM wave was in this slot, and may now be pushed back even further.  So that explains the need for a filler wave, which is understandable.  I think it's execution more than anything.  
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: EpicGon on October 30, 2010, 11:30 AM
With all respect to Hasbro performance during the last years, collectors could regret the lack of completely new molds and sculpts. >:(
In some cases they must sacrifice articulation for a better / more realistic sculpt

"It´s a trap! or it´s a repack?"

Other errors on Han depìction are the narrow shoulders, and very thin arms. People are wondering if these figures are kitbashes or repacks.

A humble opinion: instead of kitbashes or repacks, Hasbro must correct sculpts and molds, like they did with the vtsc Bespin Luke, which evolved into the tvc Bespin Luke we have already bought.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Scott on October 30, 2010, 03:31 PM
I woke up this morning and said "I got my Willrow Hood, everything else is gravy"...and it is.  I'm not going to be pissed about toys any more....honest this time :-*
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: P-Siddy on October 30, 2010, 04:25 PM
Couldn't Han be 'improved' by using Smuggler Lando's torso? His shirt's buttoned up.

Oh, you mean like this?  :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/redfox75/Custom%20Figures/AwardCeremonyHanSoloI.jpg)


After looking at the figures in this wave, I can honestly say it'll be good to take a wave off.

Yes, Steve. You should just go and work for Hasbro. You'd do a better job at it. heck, there are a few people on here that do awesome jobs at customing.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: iFett on October 30, 2010, 05:09 PM
Why not a complete repaint wave?  I was happy with that wave, but forgot which line and what year it was from...oh that WM exclusive wave.  sigh....I will put this wave in a box of shame once I own it.   :-\
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Siths Herald on October 30, 2010, 05:18 PM
Yes, Steve. You should just go and work for Hasbro. You'd do a better job at it. heck, there are a few people on here that do awesome jobs at customing.

I spent some time at CV hanging around their booth dreaming about their jobs... :)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2010, 11:08 PM
Couldn't Han be 'improved' by using Smuggler Lando's torso? His shirt's buttoned up.

No.


Something's a little off on the Lando torso, don't know why.  Maybe the bulk of the shirt, I'm not sure.

It's the way the vest is hanging open on it, it's too wide at the bottom.  Plus it was designed for Lando's poofier arms/sleeves.  Plus Han would never be dorky enough to wear his collar over the top of his vest like Lando...  

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jsmentek/photos/yavinIVhan.jpg)

Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: P-Siddy on October 31, 2010, 10:16 AM
So the shirt has no buttons, nor was it a V-neck... great work on the research, Hasbro (or just cutting corners)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: darth broem 2 on October 31, 2010, 01:16 PM
They are just cutting corners.  Apparently with head sculpts to.  I am not really bothered by them not using the closed shirt (though it would have been a nice touch).  I did not think they would bother with it honestly.  However, the fact that they have a nice one from the VOTC pisses me off.  Use THAT one instead of this cartoonish junk. 
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Siths Herald on November 1, 2010, 08:39 AM
It's the way the vest is hanging open on it, it's too wide at the bottom.  Plus it was designed for Lando's poofier arms/sleeves.  Plus Han would never be dorky enough to wear his collar over the top of his vest like Lando...  

I agree on the vest.  When I made mine, I cut downt he collar quite a bit.  It's just hidden behind the mendal.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 1, 2010, 12:30 PM
I am keeping my fingers crossed that it will be closed in the final version. The R5 shown is not the one we are getting according to a response from Hasbro. It's supposed to be all new, that gives me a small smidgen of hope that this will change too.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on November 1, 2010, 04:10 PM
I'm hoping basically every figure has some major changes to the photos we got when we see production versions, aside from Gree and the Utapau Clone (they looked fine).

That Stormtrooper COULD be cool, but he really has a ways to go himself ala a new helmet and rifle.   :-\  If he comes rocking a new Stormie long rifle, and that helmet's dramatically better, count me in on a number of the Stormie then.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: P-Siddy on November 1, 2010, 04:17 PM
I've seen pics of Stormies with a short blaster as well (never seen in the movies, just production stills). Wonder if we'll ever get that version?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jayson on November 1, 2010, 05:01 PM
I've seen pics of Stormies with a short blaster as well (never seen in the movies, just production stills). Wonder if we'll ever get that version?

Should be easy enough since they've been giving that pistol (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Repeating_Pistol), or one similar, to the Evolution and pack-in TIE pilots for a while now.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 1, 2010, 05:23 PM
All this ceremony got me thinking, what are the chances the will CGI a medal on Chewbacca in the upcoming Blu- Ray edition. I know it unrelated to this topic but it would give Hasbro another "variation to sell us.

I really do hope some of these surprise us in a good way. If these will hit in Dec/January we should see some packaged production shots somewhat in the near future.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jayson on November 1, 2010, 05:29 PM
All this ceremony got me thinking, what are the chances the will CGI a medal on Chewbacca in the upcoming Blu- Ray edition. I know it unrelated to this topic but it would give Hasbro another "variation to sell us.

I really do hope some of these surprise us in a good way. If these will hit in Dec/January we should see some packaged production shots somewhat in the near future.

If he isn't wearing the red Snuggie™ I want nothing to do with it.  :D
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 9, 2010, 01:12 AM
So is this wave considered a repaint wave, and, if so, why? I'm wondering why Hasbro included so many repaints in this wave.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 9, 2010, 10:37 AM
If he isn't wearing the red Snuggie™ I want nothing to do with it.  :D

Now that would be a repack I would welcome!
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: CHEWIE on November 9, 2010, 12:12 PM
This wave really is a letdown I think.  Other than Luke, I really don't don't even care if I see a single one of these on the pegs.  This is going to be a major bottleneck wave, I'm afraid.  And Hasbro will see it as a lack of collector interest, when in reality it's their own doing.

Luke - I don't care for the Stormie belt, unless it's removable and comes with his regular Tatooine one. Will get 2-3 of this Luke either way though, as he looks good overall.  I don't know if I like the cloth part of his outfit though.

Utapau Clone - Would be fine if the helmet looked better. What I see is the bulky removable helmet, which I can't stand.  Easy pass.  I'll stick with the superior ROTS line clone trooper sculpt.

R5-D4 - Will probably get one, but really not too exciting. 

Han Solo - The regular VOTC Han always looks better to me because of the head. This is likely a pass for me.

Commander Gree - Easy pass.  I don't see why they bother with a removable helmet still, they look horrible on clones as they're always too big and bulky... and also less defined sculpts.

Stormtrooper - This figure is a tremendous a letdown.  Below the helmet, he looks great.  If this is the final helmet sculpt, I will pass.  If the instead go with an ACCURATE looking one, I'd happily purchase a dozen or more. But I have little faith as to me, Hasbro has actually made Stormtrooper and Clones worse the past year... and even if they do fix the helmet (which I doubt), I won't be surprised if they all have yellowing body parts right out of the gate.

The helmet thing really irks me though.

(http://www.yakfaceforums.com/Chewie/103010stormtrooper.jpg)

Comparing the sculpts above, one is great and the other is an abomination.  It's things like this that make me lose interest... but then in response, Hasbro points the finger at collectors for not supporting the line... but when their quality slips, they are the ones that are at fault.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 9, 2010, 12:42 PM
Han Solo - The regular VOTC Han always looks better to me because of the head. This is likely a pass for me.

On a side note I am always a bit baffled by the disdain for the DS Escape Han head. I think the DS escape head blows away the original VOTC Han head. It looks so much more like HF than the previous. I guess I am in the minority on this.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Brian on November 9, 2010, 02:18 PM
I remember in a past TF.N podcast, it was mentioned that the wave following this one (2011 Wave 2) was supposed to have more "new", and be a larger wave (I believe).  I'm just worried that the next wave(s) after this one would get pushed out, and then we'll see our yearly 6-8 month gap with no new basic figures for this line.  I hope that isn't the case.  Originally, it sounded like we were supposed to get this wave and the next one, then a smallish break before the rest of the line hits throughout the year.  But, with Hasbro juggling not only another Transformers movie, but also Thor and Captain America, I'm wondering how much attention Star Wars will get during the spring/summer months.  I understand why we get a wave like this (TPM stuff got pushed out, sort of a filler wave), but it could mean trouble if the pegs are full of it for half the year.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on November 9, 2010, 10:45 PM
I like the Rem. Helmet Clone fine enough, but I agree with CHEWIE on the Stormtrooper...  It's attrocious.  I'm really hopeful for changes to a lot of the figures though, by production time.  That Han's all kinds of wrong.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jeff on November 13, 2010, 04:42 PM
Yakface has a picture (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459558706798&set=a.206623771798.129287.202559486798) of the new VC13 Anakin Skywalker Darth Vader cardback...  which also shows off the cards for some of the figures in this wave.

Still not liking that Yavin Han, but I like the pic they chose for Luke's card.  It also looks like they might be putting an ESB logo on the Stormtrooper card, which would makes it different from the VOTC Stormtrooper card.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 14, 2010, 03:16 AM
I don't like Han or Gree's card. I wished they chose a better image of Gree. Not that I would buy it, anyways, if they did. The Utapau Clone cardback is pretty dandy, though.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 14, 2010, 06:56 AM
Holy crap.

I'm a little late to this wave 5 party here.  Hasbro did a really bad job on this wave.  Not good considering Wave 4 isn't going to be all that either.

How the hell can Waves 1,2,3 be from the same company that this piece of crap wave 5 came from?  What a difference.

Wave 3 is awesome.  Good thing, cuz it'll be a little while after that one that we see something good again.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: darth broem 2 on November 14, 2010, 09:29 AM
Luke - Love the cardback and actually think the figure appears to be decent. 

Utapau Clone - My favorite of the clonetroopers color schemes.  I will nab it primarily for the cardback this time. 

Han Solo - Figure is awful in so many ways.  I will buy one for the cardback because I love just about every OT figure on these types of cards.  I do apologize to the collecting community but it will be done for this purpose only. 

Gree - Terrible choice for the photo in my opinion.  I may buy him because my son poured him in some sort of sticky goo as punishment from the Jedi for trying to kill Yoda.  My son holds quite the grudge against Gree for his Order 66 actions.  Seriously. LOL

R5-D4 - Strickly buying this one for the cardback.  I loved the last version they made of him. 
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 14, 2010, 03:55 PM
Gree - Terrible choice for the photo in my opinion.  I may buy him because my son poured him in some sort of sticky goo as punishment from the Jedi for trying to kill Yoda.  My son holds quite the grudge against Gree for his Order 66 actions.  Seriously. LOL. 

That's hilarious!

Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Scott on November 17, 2010, 11:16 PM
I didn't realize Darth Vader was already out...I saw one tonight at Target complete with Wave 5 card back
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 17, 2010, 11:26 PM
I didn't realize Darth Vader was already out...I saw one tonight at Target complete with Wave 5 card back

Aaw, I saw 2 Anakins today at Target, but I didn't check out the name template thingy! I totally forgot. I was looking through a whole assortment of ROTJ figures that I forgot to check out if Anakin got that name change.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2010, 03:33 PM
Wave 5 Figs showing up already?

Hmmm...  That means probably not far off for U.S. shores & stores.
 
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010TVC_Wave5UtapauCloneLoose01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010TVC_Wave5UtapauCloneLoose02_TN.jpg) (http://www.JediDefender.com)
Clicky to check it out.

Surprisingly, he may be one of the better figures out of wave 5. :)  I'll probably nab two or three.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 20, 2010, 04:23 PM
The clone adtually looks decent! The orange paint seems brighter than on the TSC release. The removable helmet and ball-jointed hips are an upgrade from 2006.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 20, 2010, 06:37 PM
I will probably get a couple to give Cody a few troops.

I'm now kicking myself for never picking up an airborne trooper or two.  I'm sure they will be re-released though.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 20, 2010, 08:03 PM
I will probably get a couple to give Cody a few troops.

I'm now kicking myself for never picking up an airborne trooper or two.  I'm sure they will be re-released though.

Never fear, dressel's here. Pm sent.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jayson on November 20, 2010, 09:11 PM
I hope the paint isn't as day-glo as it's coming across in the photos.  :-\
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Diddly on November 21, 2010, 04:13 PM
Yeah, the new Cody already doesn't match the 2006 Utapau Clones. Major screw up if Hasbro didn't make the new Utapau Clone's orange paint match the new Cody's
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Scockery on November 21, 2010, 07:23 PM
I will probably get a couple to give Cody a few troops.

I'm now kicking myself for never picking up an airborne trooper or two.  I'm sure they will be re-released though.

They have. Just go pick up some new Invasion of Utapau battle packs and throw the other 3 figures away. Or repack something in his place and return the set. Kids don't care.  :P
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 21, 2010, 11:12 PM
This figure does not look too bad but I must admit the 2006 Utapau troopers looks so much better. They actually have something most clones do not these days - battle damage. I am glad I picked up 35 of those and 35 442nds back in the day. I will pick up 2 of these though to have some without their helmets. Even the Airbournes had better deco.

It's nice to see Hasbro stay on time this year...thus far. I am more anxious for the Wave after this one.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on November 22, 2010, 02:07 AM
About the paint's brightness, I've noticed the pictures he posts sometimes are a little bright, so I'm not expecting the production figure to burn retnas, but I didn't think it was horrible either.

I've got so many of the last one though, I'm not going to go nuts army building a slight improvement...  I could see 3 finding their way into my ranks, possibly 4.  I can't see more though unless it's a bitchin' sale.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on December 2, 2010, 08:19 PM
As per the front page, R5-D4's BAD repaint is up...

He's actually grown on me, as I realized that Porkins is sporting R5-D4 as his droid, pretty much.  So I'll be picking him up as my Porkins companion now I think.  Plus he's cleaner, which an R5 should be for a Rebel Pilot.  The paintjob's varying significantly by the production image though, so I'm caving on this one at this point.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 2, 2010, 10:26 PM
It's a nice figure, but being that TVC figures are $7.99+, it's just not worth it to me. It just barely missed a free release in the BAD line, and I'm not willing to dish out $8 for a tiny astromech droid, considering it's a repaint.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jeff on December 22, 2010, 01:23 PM
Because I know you all love things you can complain about, consider this an early Christmas present - the first case assortment for Vintage Wave 5, courtesy of EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568E&id=HA-807301583):

1x Clone Trooper (Utapau)
1x Luke Skywalker (Ep IV)
1x R5-D4 (Ep IV)
1x Stormtrooper
1x Han Solo (EP IV)
1x Clone Commander Gree
1x VC20 Yoda with Hover chair
1x Luke Skywalker (Jedi Knight)
1x Anakin Skywalker
1x General Grievous with Cape
1x Sandtrooper
1x Darth Vader

Yes, you're reading that correctly - instead of shipping more Gamorreans or Rebels or Wickets, they're giving us more of what they know we really want: Sandtroopers, Anakins, Vaders, and Grievous!   :-X
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Darby on December 22, 2010, 01:30 PM
I was mainly hoping to see Wedge.   :-\
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jayson on December 22, 2010, 02:22 PM
Yikes, 2 Lukes, 2 stormtroopers, 2 clonetroopers and 2 "Vaders" in the same case? #facepalm  :P
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: CHEWIE on December 22, 2010, 02:45 PM
...not to mention the Stormtrooper helmet looks horrid.  And that Luke looks like he's wearing a mini-skirt.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 22, 2010, 02:57 PM
I ordered two cases as I always do from BBTS it did not pay to by the set of 6 or singles so I will bite the bullet. I have a feeling along the way I will cancel one and get my few openers from the store. I am only interested in the Luke and the Yoda for openers, maybe the Utapau Trooper and Stormtrooper. I am glad they gave him the Clone the two evo style weapons.

Outside of that this wave really sucks. I hope it is a bonus wave.

Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 22, 2010, 03:17 PM
Because I know you all love things you can complain about, consider this an early Christmas present - the first case assortment for Vintage Wave 5, courtesy of EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568E&id=HA-807301583):


I hate this.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Diddly on December 22, 2010, 03:30 PM
Bad news. Clones and Sandtroopers are literally the only figures I can find right now. Can't wait to see more of them clogging the pegs. ::)

I'll probably only pick up Yoda and both Lukes (Luke is the only ROTJ figure I haven't found yet), maybe a Utapau Clone. That Stormtrooper looks awful.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Brian on December 22, 2010, 05:26 PM
Wow, not only is the case assortment disappointing...but that Luke doesn't look nearly as nice to me in that EE pic.  Hopefully the final product will differ or something, but the skirt does look a little long there too.  I think Luke was the one figure I was actually looking forward to in this wave the most.  I'll pick up a few from this wave most likely, but it is still a bit of a let down.  The soft goods skirt is a nice touch, but they could have almost just recarded the Resurgence BP Luke and I'd be just as happy to pick that up again (or several).
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: CHEWIE on December 22, 2010, 09:51 PM
The clones would be fine if it was actually a good figure sculpt they were using.  All they needed to do was give the ROTS SA sculpt an alternate head (one with the clone face, the other the standard helmet) and it would be a better figure.  Just like they did with the CW Obi Wan.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 22, 2010, 10:02 PM
I will be doing some mod work with an extra Resurgence Luke with this one because I have to agree it looks weird. I already swapped an OTC Vintage Han upper half with the Legacy DE Han escape to make it look right. All of them had a off color shirt so that mod I made him look right. I think this Luke will need the same treatment. This is a missed opportunity to correct the crappy legs on Luke too.

I think this Jedi Luke will have the running change card back. Hasbro said they would change the picture art on this figure. That will make this wave a minute less painful.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 23, 2010, 01:00 PM
I'll get a couple of the Utapau clones and maybe another Jedi Luke and be done with this wave.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Scott on December 23, 2010, 02:48 PM
After seeing final pics, I'm going to pass completely :-X
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: CHEWIE on December 23, 2010, 08:13 PM
I think I might too.  Hasbro didn't even half-ass this wave.  A bunch of monkeys could have done better, I'm afraid this wave is going to pegwarm worse than the ESB wave has at Target.

The character selection is pretty weak, but it's the execution of the figures just doesn't seem like it's going to live up to the standards that they have been setting thus far with this line.

Luke's figure doesn't really capture the feel of the character at all, and the cloth goods look very bad.  He look like he's wearing a mini-skirt.  The figure in the Resurgence of the Jedi battle pack was a superior figure so why not repack that one?  To me this looks more like a MEDICAL FRIGATE Luke...

Then there's the terrible mistreatment of Han Solo... the head looks much too animated and is almost as bad as the face they gave Fixer; it really doesn't look like Harrison Ford at all. Why not just use the head from the 2004 VOTC Han?  It's a better head sculpt... plus the shirt collar on this figure doesn't represent the look of Han wearing his medal either. The 2004 VOTC Han is a better figure.

And if Hasbro is going to give Stormtroopers removable helmets, why not go with a better version of the helmet?  This is a terrible helmet sculpt, so I predict right now that this figure is going to sit on pegs just like the current ROTS all white clone trooper is doing (which is doing so mostly because people don't care for that oversized bucket helmet - most like the crisper ROTS #41 helmet better; and I won't be surprised if that Utapau clone pegwarms too because of that helmet). Why are they going with the decision to use bulky removable helmets on Stormtroopers and Clones?

The repacks in this wave are also surprising.  Why not carry the Gamorrean, Ackbar and Wicket forward? Those figures are super hot sellers and supply is not meeting demand.

It's sad that they can be so lazy because a few different decisions by Hasbro could have made this wave a hit. Instead it sucks.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: CHEWIE on December 23, 2010, 08:15 PM
After seeing final pics, I'm going to pass completely :-X

Very well justified.

And when a lot of collectors pass on it, Hasbro will view it as a lack of collector interest rather than understanding it's because they tried to pass off a wave of crap.

Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: EpicGon on December 23, 2010, 08:39 PM
Some new versions can´t surpass former ones
The potj 25 anniversary Luke death star escape was great, the sculpt, also the pose which the toy is in display, the correct depictionof the character using his grappling hook.

More of the vintage line action figures still need balance between sculpt and articulacion.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Brian on December 23, 2010, 08:55 PM
Yeah, after seeing the EE pics, this wave is even more disappointing to me.  Sure, the character selection wasn't the greatest in the first place, but the figures themselves just don't seem all that well done.  Perhaps it will be different when they hit retail, but judging from these pics they aren't too impressive.

I realize it was a bit of a "fill in" wave to some extent, but I almost think this would have been better received as just a repack wave if they were going to do these characters anyways.  Throw the Resurgence Luke, the original VOTC Han, maybe a different (Tantive BP?) Stormie with perhaps added articulation (I'm not a fan of this removable helmet either), and fill it out with some other well chosen repacks (or maybe one all-new figure) and some smart carry overs (primarily ROTJ wave figures).  Not to be overly dramatic, but waves like this can often be trouble for a line like this - particularly when we're just getting past the constant statements pointing the blame at collectors for the demise of movie line stuff.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Diddly on January 17, 2011, 12:48 PM
Wave 5 Found? (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_Vintage_Collection_Wave_5_Found_136149.asp)

Says they were found in Orlando, and no receipt is pictured. Sounds kinda sketchy.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 17, 2011, 01:33 PM

And when a lot of collectors pass on it, Hasbro will view it as a lack of collector interest rather than understanding it's because they tried to pass off a wave of crap.


I think I want Gree and a 212th clone carded.  But other than that, not too much here.

It's amazing that they can follow up the ROTJ wave with something like this.  It just looks like a total lack of planning.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: McMetal on January 17, 2011, 02:33 PM
Wave 5 Found? (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_Vintage_Collection_Wave_5_Found_136149.asp)

Says they were found in Orlando, and no receipt is pictured. Sounds kinda sketchy.

Just saw that, photo has been added now too. I don't think the lack of a receipt is necessarily a big deal, but we should know for sure in the next few days if other reports start popping up.

Too bad we don't have any JD peeps in FL.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Rob on January 17, 2011, 04:38 PM
Wave 5 Found? (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_Vintage_Collection_Wave_5_Found_136149.asp)

Says they were found in Orlando, and no receipt is pictured. Sounds kinda sketchy.

I haven't even seen wave 4 yet.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: speedermike on January 17, 2011, 04:41 PM
Seriously...did wave 4 actually hit?  Did I miss it?

I think this wave will sell, to tell the truth.  Luke, Yoda, Han, will move fast.  Clones, oddly, are slow movers in this line.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on January 17, 2011, 05:01 PM
Wave 4's only been found overseas in any ammount, and then it's been limited by what I've seen.  Nothing in N. America that I can recall, has been reported.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 17, 2011, 06:44 PM
Rebelscum updated with photos from Wave 5 - so yeah, I guess both waves are hitting at the same time?

That seems rather odd. Time to start considering ordering a couple of cases of the AOTC wave I guess...
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Diddly on January 17, 2011, 07:00 PM
Yeah I haven't heard anything about Wave 4 hitting in the States, so that's why I called it sketchy. Without a receipt, how do we know this isn't some dude overseas pulling a scam? (that's the conspiracy theorist in me talking, sorry)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 17, 2011, 09:55 PM
Yeah I haven't heard anything about Wave 4 hitting in the States, so that's why I called it sketchy. Without a receipt, how do we know this isn't some dude overseas pulling a scam? (that's the conspiracy theorist in me talking, sorry)

Isn't Wave 4 supposed to hit this month? What I find odd is that there haven't been any reports around (besides in Australia) that these have hit in the USA. I'm hoping that it's just a delay.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: 501ST on January 18, 2011, 11:48 AM
AOTC wave is around thus far only in Target Stores ranging from the states of Queensland,New South Wales and Victoria.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Diddly on January 18, 2011, 04:21 PM
Went to WM to get spiral notebooks just now and ended up finding Wave 5. Pics coming later tonight.

Only snagged Luke and Yoda. Luke is much better in person, they trimmed his "skirt" really low. Headsculpt kinda stinks, I'd swap it with the Resurgence Luke but the skin tones are different.

Utapau Clone suffers from the same yellow helmet issue the ROTS Clone does... the helmet was already yellow.

Stormtrooper looks worse than ever in person.

EDIT: They all scanned normally, $7.96. This is in College Station, TX for what its worth.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 18, 2011, 11:33 PM
Went to WM to get spiral notebooks just now and ended up finding Wave 5. Pics coming later tonight.

Only snagged Luke and Yoda. Luke is much better in person, they trimmed his "skirt" really low.

How's Yoda? Is it worth the delay?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Diddly on January 19, 2011, 12:20 AM
Eh, it's alright... as you can see by the pic he has swivel elbows. Kind of disappointing but it's honestly the best PT Yoda we've ever gotten. The accessories are really cool, they molded the lightning thing so that you can stick it on Yoda's left hand. Still would rather have an accurate OT Yoda though.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/CIMG4011-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/CIMG4015-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/CIMG4016.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/CIMG4018-1.jpg)

Only opened Yoda since he's the only "new" figure. I also snagged ROTJ Luke, which as you can see does not have the changed cardback. Other random things to note: NO Fett stickers or redemption forms. Back of the cards only show Wave 5 figures, nothing new. Let me know if you want more pics/descriptions of anything.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 4 - AotC
Post by: P-Siddy on January 19, 2011, 12:06 PM
I'm more concerned about my wallet. Two waves hitting at once? Ouch.

I'm not. Wave 5 is rather blah, so I'll be skipping most of that.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 19, 2011, 06:34 PM
Wow, Hasbro did a great job putting ball-jointed elbows on the 2nd TCW Yoda release, I don't see why they couldn't do it here. Especially since TVC is about getting the final try right. I guess we'll just have to wait another few years... ::)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on January 19, 2011, 08:54 PM
Yoda's a neater looking figure than I thought he'd be.  I really figured we'd get little or no update to him, so I'm actually pleased.  I'll pick one up I believe.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 4 - AotC
Post by: Jesse James on January 19, 2011, 08:59 PM
Yeah I'm skipping a lot of Wave 5 too...  I am really on the fence with Luke, Han's a total pass, I'm on the fence with justifying R5-D4 (I keep thinking, "Well I'll just give one of them to Porkins"), The Stormtrooper I probably want more for the gun than the figure, I don't really care about Gree and the Utapau Clone's already reportedly got yellowing going on...  Yoda coming out as a winner?  Yeesh.  He's neat enough but I'm hardly giddy about him.

Wave 4 though, I want all of them and multiples of Zam, Anakin, and the Senate Guard. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 4 - AotC
Post by: CHEWIE on January 19, 2011, 09:50 PM
Yeah, Wave 5 sucks.  A complete half ass attempt if I've ever seen one.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Scott on January 21, 2011, 08:19 PM
Jayson...just looking at your pics and I agree that Luke is definitely alright

http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/html/TVC/basicfigures/VC39.html

And its nice they used Resurgance Luke (at least half of him)...I'll probably pick him up.  Although his hair could have used a paint wash to look a little more realistic
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on January 21, 2011, 11:43 PM
That hair color's going to bug me, however I'm already contemplating how I could hack up a Flashback LUke's belt to replace the Stormie belt...  Resurgence Lukes aren't common so hacking one of him up isn't an option, plus I like the softgoods skirt personally.

I agree on a wash on his tunic.  Something pretty darn subtle though, as if you notice on the cardback photo, there should be a distinction that's more defined, between the belt and the tunic.  The Luke is growing on me though for sure.  I'll get one, and deal with the hair I guess.  It's definitely not the right color though.  Resurgence is still completely superior and it's mind-boggling they didn't just re-use that figure completely aside from the skirt/belt.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jayson on January 22, 2011, 12:13 AM
Not that I think it was intentional at all on Hasbro's part, but looking at the two side by side (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TVC/basicfigures/VC39/lf16.html), you could make the case for getting a brown hair and yellow hair ANH Luke
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on January 22, 2011, 12:18 AM
You mean a vintage homage?  I'm sorta bummed if that actually were the case, as I never liked Luke's almost neon hair, but I thought similarly...  That it was intentional possibly.  It looks like there's some wash to the hair, but not much.  Not enough for me to dig it as-is anyway.   :-\
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on January 22, 2011, 01:55 AM
I think this Luke would have been an A for me if they'd just painted his face a bit, might have helped offset the hair a bit more as well. For a guy living in a desert with two suns, he sure is pale. Still loads better than the 30AC farmboy Luke though, which has been my farmboy Luke for some time now. Looking forward to picking it up. The rest of the wave? Meh.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: EpicGon on January 22, 2011, 10:11 AM
This Death Star escape Luke looks a bit shorter than resurgence Luke, the way he stands give him apparently less than 6 heads tall. I still prefere the 25 th potj mini diorama version with Leia on the bridge.

The r5d4 only corrected the first stripe on chest, from grey to blue.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 23, 2011, 11:39 PM
I cannot believe they sculpted a new head for this Luke when the Resurgence is so much better and in demand. I just compared the two figures and they are indeed different head sculpts. So they wasted tooling on a head that was not needed at all taking a step back but they could not make a new torso for Han??? I would love to ask Hasbro why they felt the need to make another head for Farmboy Luke but no Han's torso. The tooling money would be the same for the part so they cannot spin this. They even tooled a fitted Medal for Han so what gives on that?

I made some mods to the DS Han and the Luke from this wave with the old pop/swap to perfect the figures. For Han I used the belt and put it on the new "Ceremony Han". Since all of the DS Han shirt paint jobs were horrible it made sense. For Luke I switched out the head, hands and legs from the Resurgence pack with the new Luke. The skin tone matches perfectly on mine. Here is a pic of both of my mods, sorry for the flash.

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/dsheroes.jpg)
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Master_Phruby on January 25, 2011, 10:52 AM
I don't know about that Yoda. To me it looks like every other prequal Yoda we've ever gotten. He reminds me of Arnold from Different Strokes.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 25, 2011, 11:06 AM
I don't know about that Yoda. To me it looks like every other prequal Yoda we've ever gotten. He reminds me of Arnold from Different Strokes.

He is actually a really nice figure. Do not let the swivel elbows fool you. I put the Target Geo Yoda cloak on him and he looks great! The cloak he came with is OT style and dirty. I also gave him the EP2 Metal Lightsaber with the small handle. All of the Yoda sabers are too think for him to hold.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: EpicGon on January 27, 2011, 12:08 PM
Perhaps the stormie wolud be teh most intersting figure, if they have updated the paintjob (after seeing rebelscum preview): the stomach area of the armor lacks the buttons painted black or gray, the helmet is from tlc death star escape Han, and the head is from tac stormtrooper. With his two weapons could serve as army builder.

Very small details like the buttons of both side of the jaws in the helmet, painted better (silver with black and not only a black dot) could have made this figure a hit.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jayson on January 27, 2011, 12:24 PM
Actually, the new stormtrooper is a kit bash of the TAC Stormtrooper (belt, arms, torso, head & helmet) and TVC Sandtrooper (legs, hips, mid-section).

(http://www.yakfaceforums.com/jayson/newstrmy.jpg)

L to R: TAC Stormtrooper / TVC Sandtrooper / TVC Stormtrooper
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 27, 2011, 02:05 PM
You are better off army building the Sandtrooper as he looks the best of the 3 above. Remove the gear and you have a perfect Stormttrooper. You can even help the pegs clear out. Good eye on the grey circle on the stomach, I did not notice it before.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jayson on January 27, 2011, 02:37 PM
You are better off army building the Sandtrooper as he looks the best of the 3 above. Remove the gear and you have a perfect Stormttrooper. You can even help the pegs clear out. Good eye on the grey circle on the stomach, I did not notice it before.

The only thing about army building the Sandtrooper is the lack of the detonator on the belt.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: EpicGon on January 27, 2011, 02:47 PM
Thanks guys for your responses

this is a frequent issue on Hasbro about sandtroopers

they rarely spot the black collar of their neck, cause the pauldron closes the articulation at head level
they seldom have working holster

Only tac anh tin multipack spotted both, but lacked the flesh paint application on human neck.

Conclusion: Its desirable the tac anh tin sandtrooper on a repack for tvc, with the above corrections (perhaps they still resist to paint the grey dots on stomach area, but will be closer to perfection).
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on January 27, 2011, 03:47 PM
I love the Vinty Sandtrooper for some reason.  He mixes up the other hundreds of troops I have, so I dig having the variety around.  Plus you get the unique rifle, which is always a plus, and the option of having a trooper with his field gear on or off.  The hip articulation is a bonus.

I didn't care for the 30AC Trooper a lot because the lower legs were often misshapen or one was short, and the helmet obviously isn't as nice, however I still wound up with a number of it in my collection too.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: CHEWIE on January 27, 2011, 03:58 PM
I didn't get a single one of the TAC Stormtrooper because of that awful helmet... and I can't figure out why they'd use that piece of crap on this new vintage Stormies... what a joke.  The Spacetrooper helmet from TAC is available and better, why not use that??

Also, I don't know about you guys, but on the Sandtroopers in my area (I've looked at hundreds), almost all of them have either a choppy looking belt or some yellowing on the thighs.  For that reason alone, I haven't bought any until the past couple weeks, when they started shipping in newer assortments and the armor on these is more pristine white, and the belts are better (though still weird looking). 
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Jesse James on January 27, 2011, 11:32 PM
The yellowing on the thighs I notice a lot...  The belt seemed to have some mold issue because the pack-in with the Dewback was basically the same.  I can live with that.  It doesn't look horrible and can be trimmed off if it's that bad, though I haven't done any modding.

I put a Sandtrooper down tonight because, while I wanted another one, the yellow thighs bugged me and I didn't feel like spending the cash.

I'd have dug seeing the Spacetrooper used for the "kitbash" of the two figures, and maybe even see the head get either a repaint to some degree, or something to make it look like another generic trooper underneath.

Of course a new generic head all together under the helmet would've been even nicer. 
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: CHEWIE on January 28, 2011, 12:46 AM
I tried to modify one belt a bit, and got frustrated with it.  It's probably doable though.  Glad I'm not the only one seeing the issue on the thighs yellowing - I've had so many people (even a local friend) say they don't know what I'm talking about... so I was at Wal-Mart about 2 weeks ago with him, and asked him if he saw any yellowing on the Sandtroopers.  He said he did not... then it became apparent he was only looking at the helmet, because it's SO obvious on many of the Phase 2 clones.  I told him to look at the thighs, and then he realized it... it really is a shame, because this figure is so close to being simply awesome. 
Title: Re: "Vintage" Collection Wave 5 (2011 Wave 1)
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 28, 2011, 09:50 AM
Thanks for the comparison shot Jayson!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: McMetal on January 28, 2011, 02:53 PM
Saw Gree and the Utapau Clone on the pegs at Wally today. Gree's visor was funky looking, not sure I liked it. Looked like the cards were unpunched at one point too.  :-\
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on January 28, 2011, 03:52 PM
Oh yeah, the yellowing thing isn't something you're seeing alone CHEWIE, I saw some right out of the case that looked like that.  Some are really bad at this point, but mostly just the Clones.  The Sandtroopers didn't seem to be yellowing quite as bad, but they still have a dinge to them on the thigh part for some reason.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: CorranHorn on February 10, 2011, 11:23 PM
I just came back from my local Wal-Mart where I found 4 cases of this wave - the boxes were marked W1R1 for Wave 1 Revision 1.

I got to open up all 4 cases and the kicker of this revision is that the Jedi Luke in the case comes with the updated cardback...

(http://www.ffurg.com/jason/TVC_JediLuke.jpg)

This was the first time for me seeing the cardback, I haven't heard anyone else make mention of it. It's a solid cardback overall imo - to match a great figure, I had to buy 3.  ;D - but Hasbro did not correct the silver border around the nameplate. The figure itself is the variant/correction with the belt hole for the lightsaber hilt (which itself has the peg).

The case came with the following (1 figure of each)...

ANH "Yavin Ceremony" Han
ANH Luke
ANH R5-D4
ANH Sandtrooper
ESB Stormtrooper
ESB Darth Vader
ROTJ Jedi Luke
ROTS Yoda
ROTS Cmdr. Gree
ROTS Darth Vader
ROTS Utapau Clone
ROTS General Grievous
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Nicklab on February 10, 2011, 11:27 PM
Wow.  The variant Jedi Luke card looks really good.  But it stinks that they'd keep on shipping that ****ing Sandtrooper!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: P-Siddy on February 11, 2011, 08:40 AM
Oh, I picked the new Endor Luke yesterday, too. I assume people already found these.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Crackbrick on February 11, 2011, 10:36 AM
Oh, I picked the new Endor Luke yesterday, too. I assume people already found these.


Nope.  Nothing of this wave or waves 4 or 5 around here.

cb
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 11, 2011, 04:34 PM
of course I found this wave at Walmart today after I make my order at HTS.  I only ordered Luke in my HTS order - so when I saw Yoda I grabbed him.  I didn't put Yoda in my order earlier because I am not liking this whole stamp on the front of his leg issue.  Well, I was hoping I would be able to tell if I saw him at retail whether he had it or not, but you cannot see - the robe is covering it.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on February 11, 2011, 06:57 PM
Said it in the wave 4 thread, but it applies here...  I'm wondering if the $8.99 pricehike at Target isn't a permanent thing since they're $8.99 at HTS now as well.  I'm also wondering if we're not in for a price hike news at Toy Fair and this is a reflection of the MSRP going up now.

Either way, I'll be seriously looking at whether or not I want to continue collecting at this point.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 11, 2011, 07:23 PM
just fyi, the stamp number on my Yoda's leg is on the side of his leg - not the front or the back.  Curto got a bad apple
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Darby on February 12, 2011, 10:48 AM
$8.99 will certainly end buying a carded set for me, and probably others as well.  I think this line is working because collectors came back, and were buying two or three of everything.  Why raise the price?  Why ruin a good thing?

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Crackbrick on February 15, 2011, 10:32 AM
Found Luke DSE and Ut Clone, but no others.  No sign of wave 4.

cb
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: darth broem 2 on February 16, 2011, 12:59 PM
I found the orange clonetrooper and Yoda.  Missed it by that much!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 16, 2011, 08:44 PM
Either way, I'll be seriously looking at whether or not I want to continue collecting at this point.

With prices that steep, I'm sure repack/repaint waves (like this one) are gonna start to fail - seriously, how can Hasbro expect collectors to buy figures they more or less already have, this time for $9+?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 16, 2011, 09:03 PM
Either way, I'll be seriously looking at whether or not I want to continue collecting at this point.

With prices that steep, I'm sure repack/repaint waves (like this one) are gonna start to fail - seriously, how can Hasbro expect collectors to buy figures they more or less already have, this time for $9+?

I won't stop.  But it is making me much, much more selective and careful.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 18, 2011, 09:02 AM
Opened the Stormtrooper. Glad they added the holster, but it doesn't help the aesthetics of the horrible looking hip joints. I'll pick up a couple, but won't be upgrading the 300+ of the VOTC/30AV styled I have.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 18, 2011, 10:09 AM
Opened the Stormtrooper. Glad they added the holster, but it doesn't help the aesthetics of the horrible looking hip joints. I'll pick up a couple, but won't be upgrading the 300+ of the VOTC/30AV styled I have.

Nope, you gotta do it.  Nobody here thinks your collection is good until that's done.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: CHEWIE on February 18, 2011, 11:03 AM
The hip joints on the Stormtrooper don't bother me nearly as much as the awful helmet they used.  I don't see why they don't use the Spacetrooper one from Legacy, it's so much better.  I'm not buying a single one due to the helmet.

And I agree, I'm really not liking these prices... I'm not ready to call it quits yet, but I'm actually considering it... last night I stood in my Star Wars room, wonderinf it the time had come for me to quit buying this stuff.  It's one thing to enjoy a hobby, but when you feel like you're getting gouged, it doesn't seem quite as enjoyable.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on February 18, 2011, 04:09 PM
I've had that exact SW Room moment lately.

About the helmet, one possible reason is the figure does use the torso/upper body of the 30AC Trooper, and thus his helmet, which were probably together.  Hasbro's said before how molds aren't always in the same factory.  The Spacetrooper could be nowhere near the 30AC Trooper, but the Sandtrooper mold could've been there so they combined them because of that.  That happens a lot with other companies actually, who use multiple factories.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 19, 2011, 12:29 AM
I picked up the R5-D4, Clone Trooper and a rebel commando.  I'm happy with the R5, but I can see many people being disappointed with it because it's just a repainted BAD R5.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on February 19, 2011, 02:05 AM
I've still not seen hide nor hair of Wave 4 or 5, anywhere.  WM has a couple stores with space to spare, but most I can get to easily are packed with ROTS White (or off-white depending on your POV) Clones and Sandtroopers with piss-stained thigh armor.

Those who aren't bogged with those are usually loaded up with wave 1 downers like 4-LOM, Dengar, CC Pilot... 

I'd really like to pick up the 2 waves (what I want of them anyway) that I don't have...  HTS is the only place I'm holding much hope of finding them these days.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 19, 2011, 05:40 AM
Of all my stores, only 1 has new Star Wars, it's a Target and they must have 8 new cases of AOTC Wave 4 on the pegs.  A little sold at first, but the pegs are now basically totally full with it.  That $9 basic figure price tag is definitely keeping them around longer than any other wave.

I have not seen any wave 5 yet at all.

Speaking for myself, I bought 2 Zams (1 to open, 1 carded), 1 carded Mace, 1 carded Kit, 1 carded SBD.  And I know my wife bought me a few figures including a couple Senate Guards and a Jango I think (bday coming up).

Now, here's what I passed on even though I have the expendable cash and the figures are hanging on the pegs right in front of me:

1 Kit Fisto to open
1 Mace Windu to open
3 Senate Guards to open
1 Padme carded

And that's the difference to me between a $7 figure and a $9 figure.  Selectivity.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on February 19, 2011, 09:20 PM
I bought most of Wave 4 at K-Mart using my reward zone points there, and got them for $8  each about...  I'll stick with that and WM.  Target's a favored store for me, but not right now.  Not till they get back to the MSRP's.  Wave 5 is hitting here too at KM so I'm hopeful to get them too since I have new points coming in from an oil change and some food purchases.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Brian on February 20, 2011, 12:31 PM
There hasn't been much in the way of new SW here locally either, particularly with TVC.  Our local Target had one case of the AOTC wave come and go pretty quickly, but they are pretty much filling all of the pegs with CW and Legends at this point (even the vintage pegs).  WM is just packed full of Clones and Sandtroopers, with a handful of other figures (4-LOM, CC Pilot, etc.)  TRU hasn't had anything for a long time now.  I've gotten waves 4 and 5 (most of them online), so I think I'm pretty much caught up now.  I'm still hoping to see more of the ROTJ wave, which came and went way too quickly.  Wouldn't mind having a few more extras from that wave.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 21, 2011, 04:26 AM
I haven't caught any of this wave out in the wild - along with the AOTC wave. It's sad, really. Nothing but Clones in one store, Bespin Pilots, Dengars, and 4-LOMs in the other. It's like they never restocked after Christmas.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: NightVyper on February 21, 2011, 07:54 AM
Star wars sells out online super fast, you have to catch it at pre-order. I don't have a lot of options in the city that are reasonable in price.

I want the senate guard and i cant wait till they make a new royal guard using gear.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on February 21, 2011, 04:45 PM
I've yet tos ee any Wave 5 either... Wave 4 I just got, but Wave 5 I'd still like Luke.  I'm making my first, "F you over the prices" statement though by avoiding all others in the wave.  I just can't justify it.

And I'm to the point I like Resurgence Luke better anyway so Luke isn't huge on my list, I just would like a decent DS Escape version of him.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Rob on February 21, 2011, 05:55 PM
You're ahead of the game... I haven't sniffed wave 4 except for one $12 figure at the Times Square TRU that I passed on.

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on February 21, 2011, 06:00 PM
I don't blame you...  I was going to pass if I saw them for that anywhere, Target or TRU (They weren't $10-ish at Target by me yet, by the way).

At that price the hobby's simply not worth it.  That figure could walk, talk, do the dishes, and small home maintenance, and I wouldn't buy it for $12.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Rob on February 21, 2011, 06:37 PM
Yeah the last Target I looked at here was $10.39 per figure... that's $11.46 per with tax.  

Hopefully they're not all like that.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Nicklab on February 21, 2011, 06:54 PM
Yeah the last Target I looked at here was $10.39 per figure... that's $11.46 per with tax. 

Hopefully they're not all like that.

I saw someone at the otherR forum post a cellphone pic of TVC prices like that from a Target store somewhere in the SF Bay area.  And it seems that your Target and theirs might be among the stores in the chain that have higher pricing.  I have one of these Target stores in my area, too.  I'm not sure how Target sets the criteria for that higher tier of pricing.  But it seems to be only a few stores that are doing this.  Almost every other Target store I've been to in the past few weeks has TVC figures priced at $8.99 each.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 21, 2011, 06:59 PM
I did find Wave 5 today at Walmart.  Observations:

1.  Walmart raised their prices to $8.96/figure along with Target.  This is bad yet still not as bad as TRU.
2.  The 212th Utapau Clones had BROWN and BLUE helmets.  What.  The.  Hell.  AWFUL deterioration of the plastic.  I couldn't even purchase the ones on the pegs they were so badly discolored.  This looks especially bad with the $8.96 price tag hanging above it.  Get ready to see a million of these warming the pegs.
3.  I initially was going to buy R5-D4, Yoda, Gree, and Utapau clones.  I couldn't buy the 212th clones because of the helmets.  And I didn't feel Yoda and R5 were worth almost $10 with tax.  I left with only Gree.
4.  The stormtrooper helmet was terrible in terms of paintjob, something this figure couldn't afford in the first place.  The spacetrooper helmet should have been used, because it's the best, and even that one isn't really accurate.

Nowhere to go but up from here.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on February 21, 2011, 07:06 PM
I'm bummed on the Stormtrooper helmet.  If it's JUST the helmet that's bad (were the legs/arms yellowing or anything?) I could see nabbing one just to have it, but I'm to the point I'll probably just pass.

My WM stores don't have room for new stuff mostly, so I'm not surprised I haven't seen this wave if Target isn't getting it in.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 21, 2011, 09:22 PM
I'm bummed on the Stormtrooper helmet.  If it's JUST the helmet that's bad (were the legs/arms yellowing or anything?) I could see nabbing one just to have it, but I'm to the point I'll probably just pass.

The stormtrooper body was not yellowing.  It's just that the helmet was a horribly painted deformed mess.

The 212th helmets blew me out of the water.  It looks like a gold nugget or something.  I don't see how any of those are going to sell at all.  It actually needs to be recalled and redone.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on February 21, 2011, 11:02 PM
I meant to type that if it's JUST the helmet it's not as bad, and I'd maybe just swap a Spacey's helmet onto him.  I may still do that.  Depends where I find the Stormie and how much.  At least the body isn't yellowing.

On the 212th, I have dozens of the SA version of him...  I'll deal with the 2006 figure then.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 22, 2011, 01:05 AM
The 212th helmets blew me out of the water.  It looks like a gold nugget or something.  I don't see how any of those are going to sell at all.  It actually needs to be recalled and redone.

Even though they seem to be common, yesterday I saw for the very first time a ROTS Clone Trooper with a deteriorating helmet (I always find them with white helmets/armor). The helmet was turning gray, it was terrible.

One gripe I have is that for $11 now, Hasbro should have included at least an extra rifle, or carbon scoring, ANYTHING, at least make it worth the extra money - not that they're worth it anymore.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Crackbrick on February 23, 2011, 01:23 AM
Saw this entire wave yesterday at Wally...still no sign of wave 4.

cb
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: darth broem 2 on February 27, 2011, 02:50 PM
I have only seen a few of them.  It ALMOST makes want to break down and go for Brian's Toys one of each figure club thing.  Then I come back to my senses  :D
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2011, 02:04 AM
I saw most of this wave this weekend.  I got a Stormtrooper because I'll swap the helmet but I passed on all the rest.  I'd have dug a 212th trooper but cannot justify it for $8.99.  $7.99, perhaps.  Passed on R5 too...  My current figure is better, to me, so I'm not going to pay for what would ammount to me wanting to have the card saved more than the figure.   :-\

No Luke...

Oh, and Han's better than I thought.  The head's not bad looking, but the figure's still totally inaccurate and crap.  But the head's just not ugly like I thought it'd be. :) 

Luke's all I want at this point, and no sign of him when I was out, so hopefully I'll see him at some point soon so I can nab one and call that figure done as well.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Rob on February 28, 2011, 11:29 AM
Managed to find a Stormtrooper and Clone Trooper (hooray...) at Wal-mart yesterday.  There was also a Kit Fisto.  That's all I've seen of waves 4 or 5 yet.  I'm starting to get mildly concerned.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jeff on March 8, 2011, 04:01 PM
For those having zero luck with these at retail - Wave 5 back In-Stock at EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?id=HA-807301583&number=HS97568E).
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on March 8, 2011, 09:09 PM
I'm still hunting Luke down, but at this point I've passed on almost every other figure in the wave so I'll sit out a case of these just for Luke.  Glad to see them come back up though.  Kind of surprised to see 4 and 5 back at EE at all actually.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Greg on March 8, 2011, 09:39 PM
I'm still hunting Luke down, but at this point I've passed on almost every other figure in the wave so I'll sit out a case of these just for Luke.  Glad to see them come back up though.  Kind of surprised to see 4 and 5 back at EE at all actually.

If you need a Luke, shoot me a PM. There was one at my local WM as of tonight. Surprisingly, the Utapau Clones and Han Solo are hard to find in my neck of the woods. Not too surprising is the rarity of Yoda and Commander Gree. Luke, R5, and the Stormies are hanging around at my local WMs.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on March 8, 2011, 10:49 PM
Hey Greg,

Thanks for the offer...  I'm hoping I will nab him just when I'm out but let me think about it.  I may take you up on that actually.

I've not seen Yoda (I'm passing anyway), but I have seen Gree.

I'm shocked the 212th Clone is selling so wellt hough...  with the helmet issues, I'm really just surprised that he's one I never see when I see R5, Han, and sometimes the Stormtrooper.  212th I've seen once, and only once.  Go figure.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: 501ST on March 8, 2011, 11:00 PM
Got a Stormie today from Stateside,carded and unpunched.

Very nice looking card and figure.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 25, 2011, 11:13 PM
Is this wave still shipping?

I wouldn't mind scoring second openers of Yoda and Death Star Escape Luke for display purposes and I have only seen this wave one time to get my MOC set and another time to have my primary set of openers....
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Captain Piet on March 26, 2011, 09:52 AM
Is this wave still shipping?

I wouldn't mind scoring second openers of Yoda and Death Star Escape Luke for display purposes and I have only seen this wave one time to get my MOC set and another time to have my primary set of openers....

It's gotta be. Target never got it.
I think 4, 5 and 6 are all in the pipeline still, especially since Target has sat on its hands this winter other than the new Clone Wars two-packs.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 27, 2011, 09:12 AM
Target's gotten wave 5. The problem in my area is that they all have their "mins" set to one case. After 3 or four cases, there's a case worth of old figures, thus no new cases are ordered.

Finally got all the figures from this wave. Yeah, the Han blows. I know everyone's been saying it, but now that I've opened one, I'm really put off on the lack of effort put into the figure.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 27, 2011, 04:38 PM
Yeah, the Han blows. I know everyone's been saying it, but now that I've opened one, I'm really put off on the lack of effort put into the figure.

I have actually found Wave 5 Han Solo to be the best likeness of Harrison Ford yet.  I hadn't seen anyone complain about him, I'll go read the wave 5 thread.  Weird.

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jeff on March 27, 2011, 08:55 PM
I have actually found Wave 5 Han Solo to be the best likeness of Harrison Ford yet.  

It's not really the likeness that blows, it is the horrible-ness of passing off a regular ANH Han as "Yavin Ceremony" Han - the neckline is wrong, the sleeves are wrong, etc.

If they would have taken this same figure (2009 DS Escape Han; minus Stormtrooper belt, armor, helmet; plus ANH gunbelt) and sold it as "regular" Han, it would probably have been fine.  But trying to pass it off as Yavin Han by slapping a medal on him and calling it good is lazy and it sucks because it will set-back the clock for us getting a "real" Yavin Ceremony Han.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on March 27, 2011, 11:42 PM
I'd echo Jeff pretty much...  The likeness I think had some folks itchy because of the Death Star Escape Han...  That figure ate chunks, and this new one looks better to me for some reason.  Deco maybe?  Is it the same headsculpt even?

But what really sucked to me is that Han's rocking basically a Rebel Fleet Trooper's shirt in that scene, but it's a different color.  Same cut though, and this figure isn't near that.  The collar and sleeves just stand out way too much for me.  Hopefully they'll crank out a good one at some point...  I think I mentioned in the battlepack thread a "Ceremony" pack would be a great collector set...  Retooled Han, maybe a retooled Leia of some sort, Chewbacca, and Luke who actually looks like a guy from a planet with two suns instead of an Emo kid.  I'd buy that for a dollar.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 28, 2011, 06:21 AM
Ohhhh okay, gotcha.  Truth be told, if there's no shooting or lightsabers being whizzed around, I'm probably not paying careful attention.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: CHEWIE on March 28, 2011, 10:49 AM
I just with they'd use the VOTC head on ANH Han Solo figures... I am not to worried about the details with his collar/sleeves, it's the head on that figure that irritates me.  A straight up repack of the VOTC Han would at least be a better figure, I think.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on March 28, 2011, 05:07 PM
I think it'd be a nice figure to see back out in Legends, replacing Hoth Han...  But when it comes to getting a medal ceremony Han, it's about getting a new figure, not getting more of the Han I already have out on the pegs. :)  I'd like to see them get Resurgence Luke out in the Legends line, maybe with some of his Tatooine extras like his rifle, hat, and binocs, but it doesn't replace the desire I have to see Ceremony Luke put out with at least a normal skintone, so I have that figure in my collection and he's not a total embarassment.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 29, 2011, 09:02 AM
I don't dismiss any gripe about the head-sculpt, but unless it's really bad, and I ain't that anal-retentive, it's not as important to me as costume accuracy. I just spent $10 on a new head sculpt and a metal. A real waste.

Did finally come across this wave in mass yesterday though. One more Stormtrooper and I can completely wrap this wave.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Paul on March 29, 2011, 12:36 PM
I like the new version of Han but not as Yavin Ceremony Han.

This is going to be my default "Episode IV" Han head sculpt.  I have already started swapping it onto all the EP IV Hans that I have.

The VOTC one was good, but looked a bit small with width of the body and shoulders.

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Nicklab on March 29, 2011, 01:02 PM
The Han Solo in this wave is really kind of a disappointment.  It works as a generic ANH Han Solo, but it doesn't nail the specifics of a Yavin ceremony Han Solo.  And the differences are pretty obvious.  Just looking at the figure compared with the carback photo you can see that the collar is wrong, and the sleeves should be rolled down to the wrist.

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TVC/Basic/VC42Han/TVC-979.jpg)

This seems like a figure that Hasbro offered in the hopes of satisfying fans.  But it seems very clear that they were just trying to use a sculpt that could be re-purposed for other ANH Han Solo offerings in the name of cost-savings.  Knowing that makes this figure that much more disappointing.  Because it seems like Hasbro could potentially come back in 3 or 4 years saying "Here's your new, improved Yavin ceremony Han Solo".
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 30, 2011, 09:01 AM
Got around to opening Luke from this wave. Nice enough figure, but the design of the pelvic area really makes the figure wonky. I think it's the combination of the soft-goods skirt and ball hip joints that make the figure look like his legs are shorter in proportion to the rest of his body. Also bugs me that they give him the right holster, but couldn't do it for the stormtrooper who can really use it in combination with using the rifle.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Sybeck1 on March 30, 2011, 10:42 AM
That is one big melon head on that Han, I passed him up on the rack. Hopefully Bespin Han won't have the same problem. Just doesn't look right IMO, going back to the Echo Base Han, he doesn't look right either. Both of them are more Dean Jones than Harrison Ford to me.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Blaster under the pillow on April 13, 2011, 05:33 AM
Found the remains of this wave yesterday, just a bunch of troopers with yellow helmets, a couple of Han's  and a single Yoda which was the only figure I picked up.

It's a really strange little figure to me. It's very posable which I like, but the lousy paint job sort of trashes the figure. The feet and hands on mine look like they originally matched the head color, but were painted bright green for some reason and the hair looks like a bleach job.

I've been swapping round Yoda cloaks. The clone wars animated cloak on this one makes for a good AOTC version, while this cloak looks pretty good on the VOTC.

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: CHEWIE on April 13, 2011, 12:28 PM
I saw some more Hans yesterday pegwarming at TRU, and the shirts are suffering from a paint issue like the similar Legacy version (you can see what looks like black paint under part of it).  Great quality control once again Hasbro.   :-\
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 14, 2011, 10:52 AM
I was shocked to see some remnants of this wave at TRU yesterday. I have not seen a new wave at TRU since Wave 2.

This wave was uber lame but I did find a good use for the Luke head in this wave, if you liked the Rebellion CP Luke but hated the head you can upgrade that figure with comic/time line accuracy by swapping heads. (I used the remnants of the DS Luke with the Resurgence one to make him consistent with my other Lukes)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C5w7dBnz9-E/TZ9c9gMiUDI/AAAAAAAAB68/hdNsqQbWfTw/s320/black+luke+resurg+head.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 29, 2011, 03:46 AM
Great news on a new variant from this wave, as pointed out by JTA - Stormtrooper with corrected helmet (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7835/#details).

The variant is on the left of the photo - you can tell just by comparing them which one is which, and it's funny how wonky the original release seems. The variant also has a revised paint job - the dots on the torso area have been painted in. JTA also says that the figure found had an "un-yellowed" helmet, but I guess that just depends from sample to sample.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 29, 2011, 09:13 AM
I'll be damned. Looks like I'll be trying to replace the ones I haven't opened yet. Thanks.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 29, 2011, 10:54 AM
My Target finally got a case of Vintage in today - it had one of these "variant" Stormtroopers
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on April 29, 2011, 02:52 PM
I got more than a couple reports on Target getting Wave 5 and 6 figures in, mostly wave 6.  Glad the Stormtrooper changed...  It's a cool figure, so this will entice me to maybe nab a couple of him beyond the two I have.  I like that he can actually kneel realistically with his helmet off.  Looks pretty neat with other Troopers taking a break.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 29, 2011, 03:25 PM
With the variant, this figure is now my most-wanted from this wave. I initially didn't mind missing out on any figures from this wave, but I'm going to try tracking that Stormtrooper down.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on April 30, 2011, 12:27 AM
Technically I think this is the repack from the Wave 6 cases, as everything I heard is that it's Wave 6 (not 5) showing up at Target.  JTA has a story on their front page with pics of the variation Stormie and also a variation of the Wave 6 Luke's saber now being more blue (I guess...  They always look the same to me more or less).  I didn't hear about that one, but that's neat I guess too.  Nice to see some things altered for the better.

JTA's story also said the stormtrooper's grey dots are painted on the belly, which while not a big deal IMO, it's an improvement.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: darth broem 2 on April 30, 2011, 07:28 AM
Great news!  If I ever find any that is  :(
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 30, 2011, 09:05 AM
Well, I found one of those Stormies too. One down, eight to go.  :P
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jayson on April 30, 2011, 02:15 PM
I found the Stormy variant today along with the short neck Weequay and dark saber Dagobah Luke.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Diddly on April 30, 2011, 06:42 PM
My Target got in the ugly, "regular" Stormie. And no Wave 6. ::)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on April 30, 2011, 10:08 PM
Same with mine... All wave 5, no 6.  2 or 3 cases worth.

We would wind up with a wave of figures that are largely **** to begin with, and will pegwarm now because WM has had these a while.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 1, 2011, 01:27 PM
Hasbro should just ship that updated Stormie until the line dies.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on May 1, 2011, 08:13 PM
I'd like to see the holster improved a little to hold blasters better, but I agree it's pretty great...  That said, my heart still goes with the Sandtrooper that has the gear/removable butt bomb I think, clean of course, as a great basic Stormtrooper...  Maybe I'm 50/50 on the love for both as the best generic Stormie...  You get more "field gear" with the Sandtrooper, and you get more poseability (and the bitchin' rifle) with the new Stormie...

Combined they'd kind of make the perfect Stormtrooper army builder, only more perfect if Hasbro packed multiple Imperial-used guns like the new sandtrooper gun, the "BFG" Sandtrooper gun, the rifle...  I got tons of that old Sandie with the butt bomb though.  Loved that figure and the ability to deal out some rank pauldrons too.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Diddly on May 1, 2011, 08:37 PM
Same with mine... All wave 5, no 6.  2 or 3 cases worth.

You're lucky to get that many... looked like my store got 1 case in. Of course the Clone Wars repacks from 2008 were out in full force. ::)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on May 1, 2011, 11:56 PM
Mmmmm, I dunno about "lucky".  Wave 5's hit steadily (with Wave 4, and a smattering of 6) at Wal-Mart...  A case here, a case there.  Luke was the only figure I hadn't seen routinely (well, Yoda too, I'd forgotten him), but now I'm seeing the entire wave at WM...

Just for Target to get in 3 cases.

That kinda sucks the big one.   :-\
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Blaster under the pillow on May 11, 2011, 06:59 AM
I picked up the death star escape Luke the other day, and I have to say, I like it a lot more than I thought I would. The paint jobs on the eyes varied a lot, but fortunately I had eight to choose from.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 21, 2011, 06:32 PM
In all the TF madness earlier this week, all the area WMs actually restocked the vintage figures with wave 6, and it appears that (at least in some cases) another welcomed variation/running change/correction of a wave 5 figure is shipping alongside them.  This being the 212th Clone Trooper who, at least on the one I grabbed, has a WHITE HELMET.  Of course, the orange legion markings are present, and the helmet is still way too damned big for the body, but the plastic is white instead of the yellow or green of the initial shipments.

I don't have a camera or I'd snap a picture of it, but it's pretty noticeable in the package, especially when the rest of the clones on the pegs are compared to it side by side.

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Sybeck1 on June 1, 2011, 02:30 PM
I have a Ceremony Luke on the way to my home. I was going to head swap a Death star Escape Luke with that one. Has anyone tried this? The ceremony Luke's head looks terrible online.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jayson on June 1, 2011, 02:52 PM
I think I tried. It doesn't fit.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Sybeck1 on June 1, 2011, 02:56 PM
thanks
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on June 1, 2011, 03:15 PM
Yeah, not too many Luke heads seem interchangeable...  And ultimately you'd have to do some repainting too.  That Ceremony Luke's biggest flaw is his paintjob on the skin.  He's like he just got off the wildest roller coaster after he had a big lunch.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jayson on June 1, 2011, 03:31 PM
Yeah, not too many Luke heads seem interchangeable...  And ultimately you'd have to do some repainting too.  That Ceremony Luke's biggest flaw is his paintjob on the skin.  He's like he just got off the wildest roller coaster after he had a big lunch.

And then washed his hair with butterscotch pudding.  ::) :P
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Greg on June 1, 2011, 05:34 PM
Yeah, not too many Luke heads seem interchangeable...  And ultimately you'd have to do some repainting too.  That Ceremony Luke's biggest flaw is his paintjob on the skin.  He's like he just got off the wildest roller coaster after he had a big lunch.

And then washed his hair with butterscotch pudding.  ::) :P


Twas a great day for Yavin, and therefore, the galaxy.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Sybeck1 on June 1, 2011, 09:38 PM
http://jackoftradze.blogspot.com/

Well he was attempted here (look midpage) using the Resurgence head. It seems a dremmel was invloved. I will show my attempt if he comes out alright.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 2, 2011, 01:23 AM
Thanks for the plug but here is the direct link to my Luke mods with instructions (Most did not need much to dremmel out in order to make it fit. some did not need it at all.)

http://jackoftradze.blogspot.com/2011/04/little-differences-yavin-stormtrooper.html

Hopefully that helps, they make a huge difference.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Sybeck1 on June 2, 2011, 06:56 AM
Thanks for the plug but here is the direct link to my Luke mods with instructions (Most did not need much to dremmel out in order to make it fit. some did not need it at all.)

http://jackoftradze.blogspot.com/2011/04/little-differences-yavin-stormtrooper.html

Hopefully that helps, they make a huge difference.

Thanks Jack for the instructions. When I found the extra Death Star Luke I knew right then this was a custom I wanted to attempt.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Ben on September 13, 2011, 12:21 AM
My local WM put out a pallet display thingy full of two-to-three cases worth of this wave. The Stormtrooper and Utapau Clone had very yellow helmets, but the worst part is this store having three more cases of this wave they'll have to sell.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: DarthBinge on September 13, 2011, 01:03 AM
So did my Walmart. Could we have possibly been to the same one? It was filled with nothing but Wave 5.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on September 13, 2011, 01:57 AM
My local WM put out a pallet display thingy full of two-to-three cases worth of this wave. The Stormtrooper and Utapau Clone had very yellow helmets, but the worst part is this store having three more cases of this wave they'll have to sell.

Crazy.

The only positive I can see is that if waves 4, 5, and 6 are all still making their way out, then Wave 7 should ship into 2012, haha.  I could do without seeing 4, 5, and 6 anymore though.  I know some guys haven't seen something out of those waves, but for me I've seen them all steadily at WM, Target, and TRU alike.  For me, the sheer volume of ROTS Clones is testament to how many of those waves I've seen at WM and Target.   :-\

Wave 7, that's all I care to see now till the Revenge carded wave starts showing.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jeff on September 13, 2011, 02:13 AM
Wave 7, that's all I care to see now till the Revenge carded wave starts showing.

I'll take Wave 7 and more Wedge Revision of Wave 3 - I'd love to pick up a Wedge and maybe a couple more Wicket and Gamorreans. ;)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: JediJman on September 13, 2011, 08:38 AM
Wave 7, that's all I care to see now till the Revenge carded wave starts showing.

I'll take Wave 7 and more Wedge Revision of Wave 3 - I'd love to pick up a Wedge and maybe a couple more Wicket and Gamorreans. ;)

I wonder if Hasbro would ever consider just shipping a full case of 12 Wedges out to stores.  You'd think packing all 12 of the same figure would be cheaper for them, and I'm sure retailers would burn thru the supply quickly.  I'm surprised they don't do more of that for high demand items in this day and age - it isn't like they haven't had months and months to figure this out.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 5
Post by: Jesse James on September 13, 2011, 12:54 PM
I'd guess not since anytime they're asked about "solid cases" they're really against it.  The last time they did it was Darth Maul, and that didn't go over well, in a movie year, with the main selling point character.   :-\

Wedge is getting reshipped and I think that'll ultimately make him pretty available to everyone who wants one, assuming things at retail are cleared out a little by then.  I'd forgotten the Wave 3 revision though, and I'd take some more of it for sure since it only surfaced here very briefly.

Does it have that ROTS Clone in it though?  I'm guessing it does.  That's not what we need here, that's for sure, haha.