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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => 30th Anniversary Collection => Topic started by: Reid on July 17, 2005, 09:03 PM
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Battle of Death Star from Episode IV will include 6 figures
My dream lineup:
SA Tarkin w/ Blaster and Mouse Droid
Stormtrooper Han w/ Blaster
Commtech Stormtrooper
SA Death Star Trooper w/ Blaster
Prisoner Chewbacca w/ Binders and long rifle
Death Star Droid
Runner-Up Figure:
Atmosphere Trooper (Stormies near the DS docking bay when the Falcon comes in)
Assuming there are Deluxe/Vehicles:
Death Star Gunner w/ Gun Turret Station
Tie Fighter w/ New Wings
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Personally I am hoping for Han and Luke in Super Articulated Stormtrooper disguises. Use the VOTC stormtrooper body and I would be happy with that. Please not repacks of the POTF or those Death Star sets Hasbro please!!!
I would not mind a SA Luke X-Wing pilot but I doubt that happens. More likely he'll be repacked again from the OTC line.
A nice new Wedge would have been welcome but I think the exclusive shows they will not make this. So, he is out apparently.
Probably get a Kenobi, Vader, Stormtrooper, Han & Luke Stormtrooper, Gunner, TIE Pilot and hopefully a new Tarkin.
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My "dream team":
New:
--Chief Bast, General Tagge, or other new Imperial officer
(runner-up: SA Death Star Trooper)
Repacks/repaints:
--Commtech Vader with interrogation droid or VOTC Vader
--RA-7 Death Star droid
--Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin (probably ROTS version repainted)
--VOTC Stormtrooper
--generic Imperial Officer (POTJ, Saga 2002) with a couple variant heads. And hey, how about a paint variation depicting the Scanning Crew trooper, since the body itself looks pretty similar.
(runners-up: Early Bird Leia, 2004 Saga TIE Pilot)
Deluxe/Ultra/vehicle:
--Gunner station
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Personally I am hoping for Han and Luke in Super Articulated Stormtrooper disguises. Use the VOTC stormtrooper body and I would be happy with that. Please not repacks of the POTF or those Death Star sets Hasbro please!!!
Probably get a Kenobi, Vader, Stormtrooper, Han & Luke Stormtrooper, Gunner, TIE Pilot and hopefully a new Tarkin.
Hasbro ussually doesn't do VOTC repacks, and personally I would much rather have a normal stormtrooper have a high case count then a Luke or Han trooper. In fact I think I speak for most collectors when I say all Imperial army builders and Officers should have a more than 1-per-case count.
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As with the Endor wave, here's my list of figures I'd like to see from another thread, with explanations:
BATTLE OF DEATH STAR (8 figures):
-SA Han Solo in Stormtrooper Disguise (VOTC body with Han head, removable helmet, blaster pistol, and rifle)
-SA Luke Skywalker in Stormtrooper Disguise (VOTC body with 2 Luke heads (one regular, one slicked back hair), removable helmet, blaster pistol, and decent cuffs for Chewbacca)
-SA Obi-Wan Kenobi (especially with ball jointed elbows and shoulders, plus articulated knees and ankles; also includes lightsaber, soft goods cloak like the Evolutions Anakin, and a lightsaber hilt)
-SA Death Star Trooper (completely redone, with blaster pistol, blaster rifle, removable helmet and possible head variants, and a Mouse Droid better than the hollow plastic one)
-Princess Leia Organa (Early Bird version, just because)
-TIE Fighter Pilot (Saga 2004)
-Stormtrooper (VOTC 2004, repacks be damned)
-Grand Moff Tarkin (ROTS 2005 version with repainted/resculpted head and Imperial Interrogation Droid)
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How about a Stormtrooper Disguise figure with swappable Han, Luke, and helmet heads? You can buy one and alternate the heads, or buy two or three so there's one of each--everybody's happy.
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Battle of Death Star from Episode IV will include 6 figures
OK, six figures to guess, eh? Once again I'll assume 3 new, 3 repack/repaint.
3 NEW Figures:
SA Death Star Gunner
SA Han Solo (Stormtroop Disguise)
SA Luke Skywalker (Stormtroop Disguise)
3 repack/repaints:
Saga 04 TIE Fighter Pilot - army builder = OK
RotS Tarkin with "Old Guy" head - easy to do
FF Death Star Droid - hasn't been out since 98 and it was an exclusive before
I'd be happy with those...
Jeff
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I thought we were getting 8 figures? If we are, get rid of the Vader and Stormtrooper in my list.
BATTLE OF DEATH STAR (8 figures):
-Stormtrooper Han; VOTC body with removeable helmet and blaster.
-Stormtrooper Luke; See above.
-Chewbacca; Early Bird repack.
-Stormtrooper; Commtech repack.
-TIE Pilot; Saga repack.
-Darth Vader; MOTDS repack.
-Obi-Wan Kenobi; SA with softgoods cloak and lightsaber.
-X-Wing Pilot; Gold Leader body with two or three head/helmet variants.
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Is there a prize for correctly guessing the assortment?
Seriously, this is the set that I'm most excited about and ironically it's at least a year a away. :-[
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I thought we were getting 8 figures? If we are, get rid of the Vader and Stormtrooper in my list.
According to RS, where all this information came from, the DS wave is 6 figures. The various waves range from 6 to 8.
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My Wishlist...
New Sculpts
SA Red Leader
SA Death Star Trooper
SA Death Star Gunner
Chief Bast
Resculpts
Tarkin (ROTS with new head)
VOTC Stormtrooper
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Seriously, this is the set that I'm most excited about and ironically it's at least a year a away. :-[
Yeah, same here. ;D
I know there are no Battle of Bespin waves, but how cool would it be to get a Carbon-Freezing Chamber Stormtrooper like my avatar?
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3 NEW Figures:
SA Death Star Gunner
SA Han Solo (Stormtroop Disguise)
SA Luke Skywalker (Stormtroop Disguise)
3 repack/repaints:
Saga 04 TIE Fighter Pilot - army builder = OK
RotS Tarkin with "Old Guy" head - easy to do
FF Death Star Droid - hasn't been out since 98 and it was an exclusive before
I'd like to see the lineup Jeff came up with here. The SA Han and Luke should be easy enough for them to do, just use the VOTC Stormie body and come up with some new head sculpts, and they would be some nice figures. The repacks sound good too, I'd especially like to see a new "old" Tarkin. It would be nice to see the VOTC Stormtrooper repacked in this wave, but I don't know how likely that is. Sure would be good though ;).
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My predictions would be these in some fashion.
Han in Stormtrooper disguise, Luke, Leia, Stormtrooper, Obi-Wan, and Darth Vader.
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I thought we were getting 8 figures? If we are, get rid of the Vader and Stormtrooper in my list.
BATTLE OF DEATH STAR (8 figures):
-Stormtrooper Han; VOTC body with removeable helmet and blaster.
-Stormtrooper Luke; See above.
I think we should get just Han in Stormie duds because the last Han Stormie we got was a Froot Loops exclusive while the Luke Stormie was wide-release.
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Here's what I'm hoping for:
-Grand Moff Tarkin resculpt
-General Tagge
-Garven Dreis - Red Leader w/ removable helmet
-Luke Skywalker in Stormtrooper armor
-Han Solo in Stormtrooper armor
-Chewbacca w/ binders
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New Stuff:
SA Wedge (for the love of God)
SA Stormtrooper Han
SA Stormtrooper Luke
Repacks:
ROTS Tarkin head swap
VOTC/Early Bird Chewie w/ binders
VOTC Stormtrooper (yeah, right)
OTC Tie Pilot
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*1) Grand Moff Tarkin (Done in the Motti style. NOT the inferior Ozzel/Tarkin style.)
*2) Death Star Gunner (Ball joints, new helmet sculpt and removable chest plate please)
*3) Imperial Naval Trooper (Like the Vintage one, we've got 13 years to have the POTF2 one redone.)
*4) Luke Skywalker in Stormtrooper armor (Quote: "Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?")
5) Han Solo in Stormtrooper armor (Basically a VOTC with a removable helmet, rem. helmet goes for Luke too)
6) Dutch Vander
7) Rebel Fleet Trooper (just for Jesse James)
8) Stormtrooper (SA)
Deluxe: Turbo Laser to go with Gunner.
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I'd be hoping for a modern or well sculpted Wedge, but since there's in internet exclusive carded wedge with a dutch vander body, I don't see it happening, and frankly the thought makes me upset because I'm not paying 12 bucks U.S. for something I'm going to open anyways.
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Deluxe: Turbo Laser to go with Gunner.
Now you're talkin'!
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8) Stormtrooper (SA)
Jesus Christ I did it again. That should read 8 )...
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I thought we were getting 8 figures? If we are, get rid of the Vader and Stormtrooper in my list.
BATTLE OF DEATH STAR (8 figures):
-Stormtrooper Han; VOTC body with removeable helmet and blaster.
-Stormtrooper Luke; See above.
I think we should get just Han in Stormie duds because the last Han Stormie we got was a Froot Loops exclusive while the Luke Stormie was wide-release.
But then the Luke would look really dumb next to the superior updated Han. :P
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I just want a Removable Helmet Biggs Darklighter.
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I agree with spuffy & metaljedi
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SA Death SQUAD Commander (Death Star Trooper)....with 4 different heads in the Package, removable helmet and perhaps different colored uniforms.
I think the extra heads would take less plastic than the Hologram figures they are including....and could be hidden in the packaging like Luke Dagobah's extra head.
On the topic of Luke and Han in Stormtrooper...would you prefer actual removable helmet or perhaps just a Switchable head? Does it make a difference if the removable helmet has to be oversized? I was thinking, I'd rather just have the neckpost the same size for the Luke/han heads as the helmet, so that the helmet would not be overly large...has anybody else considered this? I look at my clone Commander from the Evo Pack and his helmet just looks too big next to my regular clone Commander...
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I would prefer switchable heads....
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I'd be good with either. The removable helmets lately do seem too puffy, but I wouldn't display Luke and Han with them anyways.
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I'd be good with either. The removable helmets lately do seem too puffy, but I wouldn't display Luke and Han with them anyways.
I wouldn't either, but I would want the helmeted version for the "Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper" mini-dio. I saw some cool customs of these two somewhere, they even shortened the Luke one. If the big H could pull that off, I'd be thrilled.
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Special Edition Deluxe List:
Battle Of Death Star Wave (6 Figs):
Repacks:
CT Stormtrooper
New/Repaints:
NEW SA Grand Moff Tarkin w/ E-11, DS Holo, and Mouse Droid
NEW SA AtmosphereTrooper w/ E-11 and Bazooka
NEW SA Han Stormie w/ E-11
NEW SA Death Star Trooper w/ Heavy Concussion Rifle
NEW SA Col. Wulf Yaleran w/ E-11 and "Quick Draw Action"
Deluxe/Playsets:
POTF2 Detention Block Playset
NEW Gun Battery Turret w/ NEW SA Imperial Gunner w/ E-11
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*crickets chirp*
Hey Jeff, I guess you didn't get anything on this wave?
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*crickets chirp*
Hey Jeff, I guess you didn't get anything on this wave?
I guess my secret source didn't want to go this far. :(
It is the last of the planned waves for 2006 from what I have read, so maybe it isn't as set yet. Kinda like the info that I got for the Naboo wave - I only got info on 6 figures when the wave is scheduled for 8 figures. I'd guess these last 2 waves (Naboo and DS) are still being worked out.
Maybe Toy Fair in a few months will bring us info on this wave?
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According to the RS list, the Battle of DS is ROTJ DS2.
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According to the RS list, the Battle of DS is ROTJ DS2.
According to the list I got this AM, what RS has listed as the RotJ2 wave is supposed to be the Battle of Endor list. :-\
Most rumors still say that the DS wave is supposed to be ANH based...
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Hmm... maybe there is hope for Wedge yet.
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Hmm... maybe there is hope for Wedge yet.
And a new "old" Tarkin...
Here's my wants for the new figures in this wave...
• Imperial Fleet Trooper (Death Star Trooper)
• Grand Moff Tarkin
• Imperial Officer (black uniform, ANH style)
• Han in Stormtrooper uniform
• Luke in Stormtrooper uniform
• Chief (?) Bast
And as far as repacks go...
• VOTC Stormtrooper
• TIE pilot
• Scanning crew member (POTJ Imperial officer sculpt, but with jumpsuit painted grey)
• OTC spirit of Obi-Wan painted with solid colors (non-spirit Obi-Wan)
• Death Star Droid
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A new, good SA X-Wing Luke would be nice, but they'll probably repack that last POS version they gave us along with the old TIE pilot, Dodonna and a Death Star Trooper.
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Someone over at RS has compiled a list of the rumored figures which includes the DeathStar wave. I'll have to give complete details later, but included is suposed to be Luke and Han in Stormtroopers disguises, but no pilots.
Fingers are crossed on the Luke and Han.
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From 'Scum:
Han Solo
This version of the rogue will utilize interchangeable parts not unlike the Dagobah Luke Skywalker figure from the OTC line. He’ll be packed with a headset (so he can tell his farmboy friend to blow that thing so they can go home…), interchangeable hands so the figure can have gloves or bare hands, and a medal (!!!).
Luke Skywalker
He’s just blown up the Death Star and about to live all his dreams. The future is looking bright for Luke, so he throws on his stylish yellow jacket (no doubt to impress that hot brunette he just rescued), and goes to get himself a medal of honour. This version of Ceremony Luke will be a complete resculpt.
Rebel Sentry
Remember that Rebel Soldier on sentry duty? You know, the dude in the crows nest scanning the Falcon as it approaches the Rebel Base? We’ll here he is, and if a totally new sculpt isn’t enough for this army builder, he comes complete with his with his little fort in the sky.
Gold Leader
Whoa. Before you go into the forums and say how much the Gold Leader figure packed in with the Y-Wing bit, read the rest of this description. The figure will most likely be built upon the wicked Dutch Vander body, but with a repainted helmet and a totally new head sculpt.
Death Star Trooper
This figure is going to be slightly retooled, but who can say if that’s going to be just a new head sculpt , a repaint, or a total kit bash.
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Well... sounds like we are getting some new sculpts... it seems like the majority of people were thinking we wouldn't. Remember, the glass is half full, not half empty. New Han and Luke? New sculpts? I'm for it!
The X-Wing pilot is welcome I think (wonder if it will be Biggs?) and a Death Star Trooper resculpt would be most welcome.
What intrigues me the most is the Yavin Trooper. I wonder how close he will be to a regular Fleet Trooper? If memory serves me correct, it won't be too far off. Sounds like this could be a great army builder.
Just for reference, Owen D made one of these with the tower...
(http://www.owenscustoms.com/outpost7.JPG)
I wonder how big of a tower Hasbro could actually pack into it without it being a deluxe? I'm sure they won't make anything that big, but I do think that this is great news that we might be getting a better Fleet Trooper. Any pack-in would just be a bonus.
:P
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The Yavin trooper is the highlight of the wave for me, i am looking forward to it.
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I wonder if this "Battle of Yavin" wave is what Hasbro meant when they talked about a "Battle of the Death Star Wave" or is this a new wave in addition to the other ones we already knew about? :-\
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Just for reference, Owen D made one of these (for me!) with the tower...
(http://www.owenscustoms.com/outpost7.JPG)
:P
That custom is awesome…
I think that the Yavin Sentry or "Yavin Scout" as I call him will be a cross between a Rebel Fleet Trooper and Imp. Officer… I can't wait for this one!
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Looking forward to the Rebel and Imperial troopers. Other than that ... *yawn*
I wonder if this "Battle of Yavin" wave is what Hasbro meant when they talked about a Battle of the Death Star Wave (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8604.0) or is this a new wave in addition to the other ones we already knew about? :-\
I hope this is additional, because I was very much looking forward to a DS wave of Imperial officers and army builders and stuff..... :-\
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Could my signature be used for much longer? We shall see.... We shall see...
Sounds like a WHOLE lotta new **** in that wave but no repacks. Odd, isn't it?
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Looks pretty cool, but i'll probably only get the Death Star Trooper. :P
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Sounds fishy to me. But what do I know. I can't say I'm too excited about any of them.
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Im excited about the Yavin Sentry since I listed him as a want in one of Chewies Ultra topics a few months ago. Regarding the Tower. I would expect something similar to the DLX Kamino Fett tower that was expandable. Hopefully we will eventually get a Rebel Technician in the future or one of the green outfitted Rebels seen during the ceremony scene in ANH.
The DS Trooper is a no brainer and easy to correct over the Freeze Frame version one. This is my most wanted Imperial resculpt. The head is fine but that body blows on the current issue. Lets hope we get the gray suit as a variation along with the black suit.
Im looking forward to the Ceremonial Han as well, as long as his shirt is buttoned to the top. Though the Luke ceremony needs updating I could of lived without.
Still disappointed in no Han or Luke Trooper update.
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Sounds fishy to me.
Me too. Where's the repacks every other wave has?
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The Rebel Sentry sounds cool and all. I just wonder if it will come with some sort stand so you can, well, make it stand up in his little crow's nest?
I am assuming this is another Han in his classic black jacket from ANH. Eh, it might be neat.
Luke - Ceremonial- I am actually happy with the old POTF version to be honest. But knowing me if it's a decent resculpt I 'll probably end up getting it.
Death Star Trooper - Personally I hope it's an all new resculpt. At least he's finally getting single packed to the stores this time.
Gold Leader? I don't get it. They just put him out there last year didn't they? Or maybe I have my pilots mixed up or something. I take it the helmet was not the correct one originally?
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I wonder if this "Battle of Yavin" wave is what Hasbro meant when they talked about a Battle of the Death Star Wave (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8604.0)...? :-\
I think that's exactly right, Jeff.
Could my signature be used for much longer? We shall see.... We shall see...
I'd like to get a picture of the happy dance you'll do if this turns out to be a SA Rebel Trooper. :D
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According to this listing at Mint in Box (http://www.mintinbox.net/data_base/cata_retailer/hasbro2k6/), this is what the rumored figures for this wave are...similar to what we've heard/read before:
(http://www.mintinbox.net/data_base/cata_retailer/hasbro2k6/portal_skins/custom/data_base/catalogue_fabriquant/Hasbro2006/10_06.jpg)
Rebel Sentry
Luke Skywalker (Ceremony)
Han Solo (Ceremony)
Rebel Pilot
Death Star Trooper
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That would be a great wave. Too bad that the Luke and Han aren't stormies, but I can still live with a new pilot, DS trooper and rebel sentry.
However, the qestion is, will the Han be cantina Han with a medal. ;)
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However, the qestion is, will the Han be cantina Han with a medal. ;)
Bite your tongue!!!
I think it'll be a new one though… Han took the time to button up his shirt during the ceremony so here's to hopin' for a new sculpt. :P
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I foresee a repack of the Tie pilot....
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I foresee a repack of the Tie pilot....
So long as it's the Saga one - that would be awesome. The TIE Pilot is one of the figures I wish I'd bought 25-50 of but never did.
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OK, so I am officially confused now. We've got these figures from the rumor mill:
Rebel Sentry
Luke Skywalker (Ceremony)
Han Solo (Ceremony)
Rebel Pilot
Death Star Trooper
Is this wave "Battle of the Death Star" Wave?
Or is it the "Battle of Yavin" Wave?
Are they the same thing, with 2 different names?
Color me confused... :-\
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That's kind of what I was wondering too Jeff, I was wondering if it was the same wave or if we're seeing a couple different ones (which would be better).
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I am fairly certain that the "Battle of the Death Star" wave is, in fact, the "Battle of Yavin" wave. The former is just an early rumored title for the wave.
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However, the qestion is, will the Han be cantina Han with a medal. ;)
Bite your tongue!!!
I think it'll be a new one though… Han took the time to button up his shirt during the ceremony so here's to hopin' for a new sculpt. :P
Actually, I read on that "other" site that the Han will be a new scuplt with interchangable parts ala OTC Dagobah Luke. He'd be ready for the ceremony scene and the TIE fighter escape sequence, although I can't see how you could do that with the collar.
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No ceremonial chewy?? Why is he left out?? WHHAAAAA!
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I was really hoping we'd get a look at this wave at Toy Fair, but alas...
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A repack of hood-up leia would be a nice addition as well. Although, I don't think she wore it that way on the death star or yavin...
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I merged the two threads (Battle of Death Star / Battle of Yavin) together since one of the reports from Toy Fair indicated a pseudo-confirmation that they are two different names for the same thing.
Still no confirmation on the actual figures in this wave though, so for now all we have is the rumor reports...
Rebel Sentry
Luke Skywalker (Ceremony)
Han Solo (Ceremony)
Rebel Pilot
Death Star Trooper
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A repack of hood-up leia would be a nice addition as well. Although, I don't think she wore it that way on the death star or yavin...
I agree... I would absolutely love to see the VOTC Leia repacked actually... maybe with a removable hood?
:P
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I'm looking forward to seeing the DS Trooper the most. Since the rumor is that he's a re-tool, I want to see how badly they mess it up. ;)
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I'm looking forward to seeing the DS Trooper the most. Since the rumor is that he's a re-tool, I want to see how badly they mess it up. ;)
I would of been happy with the POTJ Imperial Officer with the POTF Death Star Trooper head and helmet. Then midway through the run change over to the grey uniform.
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I'm looking forward to seeing the DS Trooper the most. Since the rumor is that he's a re-tool, I want to see how badly they mess it up. ;)
I would of been happy with the POTJ Imperial Officer with the POTF Death Star Trooper head and helmet. Then midway through the run change over to the grey uniform.
Yeah, but that's not movie accurate is it?
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/9-03/dstgray.jpg)
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/9-03/dstgray.jpg)
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Scott's showing you the grey uni'd Death Star Trooper Anton. :)
The uni of the guy in the pod in scenes where Tarkin orders the destruction of Alderaan is grey with a black helmet and headset but he's not really easily visible in the film itself.
There's actually 3 uniforms for DST's in the films that are clear... There's the grey one which I've always assumed to be an officer of sorts. There's of course the black uniformed ones which are in ANH and ESB. They're sporting the tunic and riding breeches.
Then in ROTJ there's guys in the POTJ Imp. Officer outfit with Death Star Trooper helmets on, running about on Endor. I think they're in the hangar scene too... So technically all 3 are right, more or less. :)
I'd love a super articulated one in the tunic/breeches, grey and black variants... I'd dig it if they put the POTF2 figure's head/helmet on the POTJ Officer's body then later as a kitbash. the head's a perfect fit for that body actually, so it'd be a simple way for Hasbro to make a load of cash. If they were EXTRA nice they'd put articulated TIE Pilot legs on him, as the pack-in Pilot with the bendable knees has legs that fit the Imp Officer body perfectly. it'd be a nice kitbash and a slightly better poseable figure as well. I'd buy tons of that I'm sure.
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Scott's showing you the grey uni'd Death Star Trooper Anton. :)
The uni of the guy in the pod in scenes where Tarkin orders the destruction of Alderaan is grey with a black helmet and headset but he's not really easily visible in the film itself.
There's actually 3 uniforms for DST's in the films that are clear... There's the grey one which I've always assumed to be an officer of sorts. There's of course the black uniformed ones which are in ANH and ESB. They're sporting the tunic and riding breeches.
Then in ROTJ there's guys in the POTJ Imp. Officer outfit with Death Star Trooper helmets on, running about on Endor. I think they're in the hangar scene too... So technically all 3 are right, more or less. :)
I'd love a super articulated one in the tunic/breeches, grey and black variants... I'd dig it if they put the POTF2 figure's head/helmet on the POTJ Officer's body then later as a kitbash. the head's a perfect fit for that body actually, so it'd be a simple way for Hasbro to make a load of cash. If they were EXTRA nice they'd put articulated TIE Pilot legs on him, as the pack-in Pilot with the bendable knees has legs that fit the Imp Officer body perfectly. it'd be a nice kitbash and a slightly better poseable figure as well. I'd buy tons of that I'm sure.
Thanks Scott and Jesse! I've never noticed a trooper in a jumpsuit before, I'll take a good hard look in those scenes next time.
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Yeah ROTJ kind of dumbed down a lot of ANH's uniforms. There's Yavin Techs and Officers working on Home One but you have to look closely... There's the DST's but they're in jumpsuits... That kind of stuff. It's weird.
I pay attention with a particular anal retentive flare to uniforms. I'm a big military feind so it's something I have interest in. Of note, there was a military advisor on board for ANH and ESB but not ROTJ. Thus in ROTJ the ranks on Imp. Uniforms are all the same... It's supposedly a reason there's uniform differences too however there's a lot of ways to explain that the uniforms in ANH and ROTJ are actually similar in most ways but that what we see of say the Rebel Soldiers are Commandos/Spec. Forces and not the "grunt" Fleet Trooper guys, and then the Mon Cal uniforms can be explained away too... It's not like we see human Ship Commanders to say that this ISN'T the Alliance Fleet Standard for ship crewmen or whatever... Lots of fudging room, though ROTJ is noticeably less "together" compared to ANH and ESB which blended seamlessly together and had lots of variances in details like arm patches, rank badges, etc... There's some rich detail there, and it was really quite nicely laid out.
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Of note, there was a military advisor on board for ANH and ESB but not ROTJ. Thus in ROTJ the ranks on Imp. Uniforms are all the same... It's supposedly a reason there's uniform differences too however there's a lot of ways to explain that the uniforms in ANH and ROTJ are actually similar in most ways but that what we see of say the Rebel Soldiers are Commandos/Spec. Forces and not the "grunt" Fleet Trooper guys, and then the Mon Cal uniforms can be explained away too... It's not like we see human Ship Commanders to say that this ISN'T the Alliance Fleet Standard for ship crewmen or whatever... Lots of fudging room, though ROTJ is noticeably less "together" compared to ANH and ESB which blended seamlessly together and had lots of variances in details like arm patches, rank badges, etc... There's some rich detail there, and it was really quite nicely laid out.
Screams volumes about Kutz's influence on the saga, doesn't it? Regarding seeing Human ship commanders in ROTJ, don't forget that scenes were filmed with Madine commanding one of the crusiers. There's a picture in the Sansweet Action Figure Archive. I think one of the BG guys is wearing a Hoth style uniform. :P
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I read there was some sort of costuming snafu that led to all the ROTJ Imp rank badges being the same ... I'm not familiar with details. Probably more a run-of-the-mill blooper than anything that needs to be rationalized.
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wardrobe malfunction?
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Wow, Death Star Trooper talk...you guys did this just to see if I was still reading the forums didn't you?
There are some great photos of them in the "Star Wars in 365 days" book that shows the Gray/Green clad DST working on the first Death Star.
Also in ROTJ I've seen the Black Jumpsuited version as well as the Tunic version.
I'd love both uniform colors in a Super Articulated manner...my DST army would dwarf my VOTC Stormie Armor I guarantee. "Death Squad Commander" was a favorite figure of mine all during the first run.
The funny thing about the Military Advisor thing is that until Jesse first mentioned it in a uniform conversation we were having, I had never known that, and now I can't help but notice it when I watch ROTJ..if Lucas wants to put out the SE Part Deux, he should fix the rank badges with his magic CGI wand.
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There are some great photos of them in the "Star Wars in 365 days" book that shows the Gray/Green clad DST working on the first Death Star.
Heh, you've been enjoying the anal retentive searching of photos in the book as well I see? :)
Yeah, I watched my ROTJ DVD just the other day (I'm a bit behind, I know) and noticed the tuniced troopers on the Death Star, and the jumpsuited guys on Endor. I think some of the guys working the controls IN the bunker were in tunics too... There were some jumpsuited DST's running on the Death Star when it was blowing up as Luke was lugging his old man around.
Nice mix... More to sit and debate.
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Time for a bump. With the German site (4inches) right on the money, it looks like this will be the breakdown for this wave:
(53) Rebel Sentry Guard
(54) Han Solo Ceremonial
(55) Luke Skywalker Ceremonial
(56) X-Wing Pilot
(57) Death Star Trooper
(58) Fan's Choice
I would assume that these will be the last figs (basic at least) of the year and will pics will debut at this years Convention.
Heres hoping Hasbro can squeeze out a couple more waves for the year end Holiday rush.
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I am forgetting what the Fan's Choice is. Is that the Toy Fare character or something else? Has to be I guess.
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That we STILL don't know what it is yet....
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Time for a bump. With the German site (4inches) right on the money, it looks like this will be the breakdown for this wave:
(53) Rebel Sentry Guard
(54) Han Solo Ceremonial
(55) Luke Skywalker Ceremonial
(56) X-Wing Pilot
(57) Fan's Choice
I would assume that these will be the last figs (basic at least) of the year and will pics will debut at this years Convention.
Heres hoping Hasbro can squeeze out a couple more waves for the year end Holiday rush.
That's what I'm wondering too. Most of the rumors have held true this year, and if so, that will take us through 57 figures (as mentioned above) for the year. That's normally a pretty big year, even with rehashes, so will we see anything beyond this? At the rate things have been released this year, the Endor and Naboo waves could definitely be out by August/Sept, leaving just the last wave for the rest of the year. With the upcoming DVDs, there will likely be some sort of a push (although not as big as last time), but maybe the 3 packs, "tins" with figures, and rumored 2nd wave of VTSC will cover that. I mean, its not like I haven't spent enough money this year (and continue to), but I guess I wouldn't mind being surprised by some more new figs for the end of the year.
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I don't know why but resculpts of Luke and Han ceremonial really appeal to me. That's a scene that really feels incomplete right now.
The Rebel Sentry... Scum originally claimed it was the RFT in the tower with scanner pistol. I recall the description distinctly... I've heard from sources that say otherwise in the past though, that it's the Rebel Honor Guard... What will it be? If it's a new RFT I'd be ecstatic in the hopes it is SA... If it's an Honor Guard it's a figure I want (nicely articulated I hope, as their uniform is common for rebels actually) but at the same time I want a new RFT... Tough who to root for that for me.
A generic Rebel Pilot with great articulation is my hope for that...
And add ICMG and that's a good wave. ;)
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Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to this wave as well - and hoping for resculpts of both Ceremonial Luke and Han. I really hope it isn't "Cantina Han with a medal". This whole wave could be a nice one, depending on how many new sculpts/rehashes we get. Sounds like a good wave to me though.
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I don't know why but resculpts of Luke and Han ceremonial really appeal to me. That's a scene that really feels incomplete right now.
A Ceremonial Han doesn't do a lot for me (his shirt's buttoned all the way up! And he has a medal!), but I'm really hoping for a nice new Ceremonial Luke. I've always loved that outfit, and the two figures it's gotten are balls by today's standards. Super-articulation, new holster, a blaster, a lit saber along with a separate hilt. . . it could turn out really nice if they put the effort into it.
Still don't know the best way to do the jacket, though. I guess a molded-on jacket would probably still look the best.
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(53) Rebel Sentry Guard
(54) Han Solo Ceremonial
(55) Luke Skywalker Ceremonial
(56) X-Wing Pilot
(57) Fan's Choice
Is there supposed to be more to the wave than that? I think it needs a couple Imperials or we're looking at a pegwarming wave.
:)
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(53) Rebel Sentry Guard
(54) Han Solo Ceremonial
(55) Luke Skywalker Ceremonial
(56) X-Wing Pilot
(57) Death Star Trooper
(58) Fan's Choice
Is there supposed to be more to the wave than that? I think it needs a couple Imperials or we're looking at a pegwarming wave.
:)
Check out my other post regarding rumored figs past Yavin.
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Still don't know the best way to do the jacket, though. I guess a molded-on jacket would probably still look the best.
You mean between cloth and a separately sculpted jacket piece? I'd say the separately sculpted... I'm not opposed to cloth most of the time though, but I'm having some Leia Collection flashbacks on the thought of a new Ceremonial Luke with cloth jacket... The POTF2 basic's sculpted jacket was nice, it was his ripped sculpt and goofy "lean" that I hated... I would definitely be into a new sculpt Luke Ceremony then.
The Han is so-so, yeah... Still, it's a Han they haven't done yet. I think his sleeves are full-length too (ooooo!), but it'd be different. Maybe a nice smirking face sculpt... :) It'd be a little different and better than Cantina Han. Right now my Ceremony Leia and Luke look incomplete though, that's why I'm interested in the Han so much.
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I modified the list since I left off one the most wanted figs. The Death Star Trooper is suppose to be #57 and the Fan's Choice is #58.
If this ends at this number it is almost identical to the first year of the original Saga series which ended at 57 figures. And that was a movie year (AOTC). So it is most likely that this may be the last assortment.
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Check out my other post regarding rumored figs past Yavin.
Gotcha - thanks. A Death Star trooper would be a great addition to it... and a VOTC Stormie really would make it a solid wave. I hope that happens somehow. Wonder what the Fans Choice could be... I'd be happy with a McQuarrie Stormie repacked.
:)
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I'll have to rewatch the scene, but how about the officer who was at the command roundtable and was ordered by Tarkin to destroy Alderaan?
How about an updated old Tarkin?
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You mean between cloth and a separately sculpted jacket piece? I'd say the separately sculpted... I'm not opposed to cloth most of the time though, but I'm having some Leia Collection flashbacks on the thought of a new Ceremonial Luke with cloth jacket... The POTF2 basic's sculpted jacket was nice, it was his ripped sculpt and goofy "lean" that I hated... I would definitely be into a new sculpt Luke Ceremony then.
I don't think I described it the way I meant to. I meant like a sculpted-on jacket, like the old Ceremonial Luke, or the old Bespin Han. I guess they could do soft-goods, but I wasn't impressed with the soft-goods jacket they did before, and don't know that they could do it any better today. Another option, I suppose, would be a flexible-plastic removable jacket, with separate jacket arms, also removable (like the removable Jedi robes on Agen Kolar or whoever it was last year). I don't know how that would look, but it would be nice to have a removable jacket, since there were some photos taken of Hamill wearing just the black shirt underneath. . .
The Han is so-so, yeah... Still, it's a Han they haven't done yet. I think his sleeves are full-length too (ooooo!), but it'd be different.
By God, you're right!
(http://www.dvd.net.au/movies/s/10953-4.jpg)
Maybe a nice smirking face sculpt... :)
They better do this for a face sculpt:
(http://www.thejawa.com/customs/customsincludes/hanceremonyhd.JPG)
And this is how 'Scum described the wave, in a report from last October:
Han Solo
This version of the rogue will utilize interchangeable parts not unlike the Dagobah Luke Skywalker figure from the OTC line. He’ll be packed with a headset (so he can tell his farmboy friend to blow that thing so they can go home…), interchangeable hands so the figure can have gloves or bare hands, and a medal (!!!).
Luke Skywalker
He’s just blown up the Death Star and about to live all his dreams. The future is looking bright for Luke, so he throws on his stylish yellow jacket (no doubt to impress that hot brunette he just rescued), and goes to get himself a medal of honour. This version of Ceremony Luke will be a complete resculpt.
Rebel Sentry
Remember that Rebel Soldier on sentry duty? You know, the dude in the crows nest scanning the Falcon as it approaches the Rebel Base? We’ll here he is, and if a totally new sculpt isn’t enough for this army builder, he comes complete with his with his little fort in the sky.
Gold Leader
Whoa. Before you go into the forums and say how much the Gold Leader figure packed in with the Y-Wing bit, read the rest of this description. The figure will most likely be built upon the wicked Dutch Vander body, but with a repainted helmet and a totally new head sculpt.
Death Star Trooper
This figure is going to be slightly retooled, but who can say if that’s going to be just a new head sculpt , a repaint, or a total kit bash.
But I've been thinking about something, and it's really disturbing. What if, by "new Ceremonial Luke and Han," they're not really talking about the end of A New Hope at all, but, instead, this:
(http://photos1.blogger.com/img/215/2361/640/LifeDay.jpg)
:o
"Luke Skywalker with Drag Queen Make-up To-Hide-Post-Car-Wreck-Plastic-Surgery-Scars paint job"
"Han Solo with Disinterested Look Upon Face headsculpt"
Maybe one day, we'll get "Chewbacca with Life Day Robes" and "Leia with Powdered Nose and Horrible Singing Voice Chip" that will make us all long for the CommTECH days.
Okay, maybe not.
But you guys all know you'd buy a Life Day Robes Chewie.
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The POTF2 basic Luke Ceremony has a separately sculpted jacket on it already... I knew what you meant then. Yeah that's what I'd prefer myself (separately sculpted jacket) over the cloth jacket of the "Leia Collection" Luke that looked sort of ok, but too bulky ultimately with the stitching details that were necessary.
And hell yes I'd buy a lifeday Chewbacca... I'd be a Bea Arthur figure in a heartbeat and not regret it. I'm not a Holiday Special Hater... It reminds me that Lucas is a whore.
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Regarding the pic above. I hope we eventually get all 4 of those different officer uniforms.
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" Death Star Trooper
This figure is going to be slightly retooled, but who can say if that’s going to be just a new head sculpt , a repaint, or a total kit bash "
... begins trembling in excitement and a feeling dread....
Oh I sooooooooo wish they get it right this time. I don't think I can last another odd number of years for another one.
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I feel pretty confident that the new DS Trooper will be an Imperial Officer body with the DS Trooper head and helmet.
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I feel pretty confident that the new DS Trooper will be an Imperial Officer body with the DS Trooper head and helmet.
Anyone have any photo's of this guy from ROTJ?
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I feel pretty confident that the new DS Trooper will be an Imperial Officer body with the DS Trooper head and helmet.
Just as long as he gets a DH-17
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I don't think it will be a simple kitbash on the Death Star Trooper... I could be wrong, but I think they'll use a new sculpt. They did a new sculpt for the Gunner figure, so I don't see why they won't on the Death Star Trooper too.
:)
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I don't think it will be a simple kitbash on the Death Star Trooper... I could be wrong, but I think they'll use a new sculpt. They did a new sculpt for the Gunner figure, so I don't see why they won't on the Death Star Trooper too.
:)
The early rumor lists, that have turned out to be true, listed him as a kitbash. :(
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How this wave should be:
Ceremony Luke (SA,New)
Death Star Trooper (SA,New)
Rebel Sentry Guard (SA,New)
Ceremony Han (VOTC re-hash w/ New Torso)
X-Wing Pilot (VTSC Luke re-hash)
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The best place to see the jumpsuited DST's is on Endor, Anton... They're more abundant and stationary for longer.
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I see in today's Hasbro update (on the front page) with the hybrid Naboo/Endor figures, they claim this is the "last wave of the 2006 Saga Collection Basic Figures". I wonder what this holds for the rumored Death Star/Yavin wave. I hope that we still see this in some capacity, I was looking forward to this wave. Hasbro's information has been known to be a little off in some cases, so maybe it is still coming - or it will be the "1st wave of 2007" that we'll see in Nov/Dec like often happens. Either way, I hope we still see these later this year.
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Bummer if this wave is indeed bumped or canceled. Seems odd though since that means there are only two more waves due for '06
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Will they be...
- cancelled?
- included in Saga 2007?
- the start of OTC Version 2.0 (for the DVD release)?
Guess we wait and see.
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I'll make a total guess and say that we'll still see this wave late this calendar year, but they'll officially be (the first wave of) the 2007 line, and will somehow be marketed as "30th anniversary commemorative action figures."
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I hope this wave isn't cancelled.I'll be happy if it's the first wave of 2007,which'll hopefully come out in Nov/Dec,like Carkoon.
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Now that the idea has been brought up, I think that next year will be a completely OT line. OTC2 would be a very good name, but I think the title will correspond with the whole 30th Anniversary more. Hopefully these Yavin figures really will start OTC2...maybe this time, they could start from the begininng and move onwards, unlike the TSC that started with ROTJ, then ESB, then AOTC, then ROTS, then ANH, then ROTJ, and lastly TPM. ::)
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SDCC is still around the corner, and it's only June too... At the pace we dealt with for the start of the year you never know what's up this year or what we haven't even seen yet.
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I think likely we see a whole slew of figures planned for the rest of 2006 announced at the CC. Even though last year WAS a movie year, typically Hasbro releases several more product announcements for the rest of the year at the CC whether it be more new or recently leaked info. I would be shocked if I'm sitting at the Q&A and they stand up and say.."OK, this is what we got.." and it's a short announcement. 8)
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If only it was a Lucas Death Star Trooper instead of a Lucas Stormtrooper.............................
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So does anyone know for sure if this wave is:
1) still coming out (after the combined Endor/Naboo wave)
2) getting pushed into next years wave on all new cards
3) getting cancelled alltogether
I'm voting for #1 (obviously). I think it could still happen. My Endor Wave of 5 figures is arriving on Monday. That would leave only 1 more wave of Saga2 for the rest of the year. That would also be 2 more waves of H/V, but I think wave 2 is due pretty much any day now. So only 2 more figure waves in the next 4 months just sounds thin compared to the rest of the year. I figure the Saga30 stuff will start showing up in December like normal. Any ideas, thoughts, wait for ComiCon I guess?
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I'm wondering the same thing. As far as I know, it's been officially canceled as wave 8 '06. I would hope that the planed figures would see the light in a different line.
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I believe Hasbro at some point a few months back mentioned that they were still going to happen but would be pushed out in one of next years assortments.
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So does anyone know for sure if this wave is:
1) still coming out (after the combined Endor/Naboo wave)
2) getting pushed into next years wave on all new cards
3) getting cancelled alltogether
How about both 1 and 2?
What better way to kick off a new assortment, celebrating the 30th anniversary of the first film, than with a wave of new figures from that film's climactic scene? And technically, they'll be 2007 figures, but they'll show up around Thanksgiving, just like "the next year's product" always does.
That's what I'm guessing, anyway. But we'll find out for sure in just a few days. . .
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Read the full story at RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/ComicCon_Floor_Report_News_On_The_Battle_Of_Yavin_Wave_99426.asp)
Sounds pretty neat, hopefully the Death Star Trooper is newly sculpted, the POTF2 was ok. Including both a E-11 Rifle and DH-17 Blaster would be cool, but I'm only expecting an E-11.
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If they are all new that would be the one of the best wave for '07, since most waves will probally have re-packs/re-paints. :)
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Read the full story at RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/ComicCon_Floor_Report_News_On_The_Battle_Of_Yavin_Wave_99426.asp)
Sounds pretty neat, hopefully the Death Star Trooper is newly sculpted, the POTF2 was ok. Including both a E-11 Rifle and DH-17 Blaster would be cool, but I'm only expecting an E-11.
It's VERY good news BUT if it doesn't get a DH-17 and holster I might actually be moved to violence.
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Hasbro will probably use the TSC Death Star Gunner mold for the Death Star Trooper. I took the new D.S. Gunner and put on the POTF2 D.S. Trooper helmet and its fits perfect but problem. Jango head sculpt.
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Hasbro will probably use the TSC Death Star Gunner mold for the Death Star Trooper. I took the new D.S. Gunner and put on the POTF2 D.S. Trooper helmet and its fits perfect but problem. Jango head sculpt.
I certainly hope not. The gunner body is not the ideal body for the trooper because of the uniform or lack of correct one.
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Not to beat a dead horse, but no one seems to mind that the BARC is just a repainted Biker Scout, or that the Conference Room Tarkin is the Rots sculpt. Seems like people will accept things that are "kinda" accurate these days...
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Not to beat a dead horse, but no one seems to mind. . .that the Conference Room Tarkin is the Rots sculpt.
Say what?
I've mentioned it here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=13186.msg246038#msg246038), here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=13198.msg246339#msg246339), here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=13198.msg246360#msg246360), here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=13198.msg246902#msg246902), here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=13222.msg246905#msg246905), here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=11535.msg246938#msg246938), and here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=11535.msg246944#msg246944).
And here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=13198.msg247694#msg247694), too.
And I know I'm not the only one. . .
(P.S. Why is this in the Yavin wave thread?)
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Matthew, I was just pointing out that people were suggesting/commenting that Hasbro could use the DS Gunner for the DST. While I think this is nuts, some don't seem to notice the difference in the uniforms...and might accept the figure the same was Tarkin is being accapted by many.
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Actually the DS Gunner's basic black jumpsuit was a uniform DS Troopers were wearing in ROTJ pretty frequently (on Endor and on the Death Star, though there were also tuniced ones on the Deaht Star).
So I'd NOT mind that, but I'd still prefer a new SA Tuniced Death Star Trooper, no doubt... :)
And it'd definitely not be accurate for the DST's in A New HOpe... Though I think that one at the gunner station for the super laser maybe was wearing a jumpsuit, I forget now. The majority were definitely the guys in tunics, and there's definitely a grey tuniced "Officer" DST in one of the command consoles in scenes with Tarkin. In particular I believe the scene where he has Leia brought to him to blow up Alderaan.
I saw a cool bit of cut footage once of that scene without the special effects and not edited together. You can see the DS Trooper in that console clear as sunshine and he's in a grey officer's uniform but wearing the black helmet and gauntlets. Very cool... :) I'd love that vintage Death Squad Commander paint variant then.
Anyway, I'm obviously drifting here.
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Oh yeah! A black on and a grey one would be excellent!
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Really hope that after this year Hasbro NEVER re-packs a POTF2 figure again! (Or for that matter a TPM line figure!) So that would mean Luke & the DST have to be new.
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Actually the DS Gunner's basic black jumpsuit was a uniform DS Troopers were wearing in ROTJ pretty frequently (on Endor and on the Death Star, though there were also tuniced ones on the Deaht Star).
So I'd NOT mind that, but I'd still prefer a new SA Tuniced Death Star Trooper, no doubt... :)
And it'd definitely not be accurate for the DST's in A New HOpe... Though I think that one at the gunner station for the super laser maybe was wearing a jumpsuit, I forget now. The majority were definitely the guys in tunics, and there's definitely a grey tuniced "Officer" DST in one of the command consoles in scenes with Tarkin. In particular I believe the scene where he has Leia brought to him to blow up Alderaan.
I saw a cool bit of cut footage once of that scene without the special effects and not edited together. You can see the DS Trooper in that console clear as sunshine and he's in a grey officer's uniform but wearing the black helmet and gauntlets. Very cool... :) I'd love that vintage Death Squad Commander paint variant then.
Anyway, I'm obviously drifting here.
What you call "drifting", I call preaching!!!! Keep on telling it Brother!!!!!
DST is now #1 on my non main character COMPLETE resculpt list.
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With the re-tooled Endor Rebel Soldiers coming out, this gives me hope that a re-tooled Imperial Trooper won't stink.
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For those still concerned about the fate of this wave, Hasbro confirmed it in this week's Q & A:
Earlier in the year there were rumors of a wave consisting of ANH Ceremonial Han, ANH Ceremonial Luke, and a Rebel Sentry. Were these figures only just rumors, or have they been delayed to fit into the 30th Anniversary Collection? (SWC, 8/04/06) (http://www.swcollector.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=821)
A Yavin wave was slotted for '06, but has now been moved to the 30th anniv. line. The reason was because they were running very late in sculpting and didn't look like they were going to make 2006, so we pushed them out. Subsequently, we developed waves 7 & 8 of Saga to continue to fill the demand for basic figures.
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Even better. Perhaps they'll take time for a Trooper re-do. 8)
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I'm wholely expecting an honor guard as opposed to the Sentry in the tower... What with the Ceremonial Han and Luke... I'm just thinking what's coming isn't the sentry with the scanning gun and such despite what was rumored.
I'm all for any non-suck RFT though. ;)
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Over the years, I've found that very few people ask for a new sculpt ANH Ceremonial Luke for some reason. In my case, I made a custom version by combining the head, jacket, and arms of the carded version with the torso/legs of the Leia collection version (which is considerably smaller) and got a nice compromise. Now that we're finally getting a resculpt, I'm looking forward to him more than even the others from this wave.
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A little OT OT here, back in 1978 when we knew there was going to be a "Star Wars 2", we just assumed that Luke would wear that ceremonial outfit in the new movie.
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I've always loved the Luke Ceremonial outfit and it's been one of my most-wanted resculpts for a few years now. The POTF2 version was decent for the time, but things have improved so much since then that a new one could be really amazing.
(And speaking of Ceremonial Luke, I didn't know until recently that his jacket was the same type used for Walrus Man and Greedo, and the Rebel pilots in Empire. Pretty interesting. More here. (http://www.toysrgus.com/index.php?action=disp_item&item_id=47455))
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A little OT OT here, back in 1978 when we knew there was going to be a "Star Wars 2", we just assumed that Luke would wear that ceremonial outfit in the new movie.
That's interesting, thanks for posting that. I always enjoy hearing what people were thinking when rumors first started of "Star Wars 2" or 3 as well. I was a little younger (born in 77), so the first Star Wars movie I actually saw in the theatres was ROTJ. I always enjoy hearing people's thoughts after seeing the original "Star Wars", then going into the sequels. Maybe we need a thread for that :)
Anyways, back on topic, I'm really looking forward to this wave as well. As Matthew mentioned, the Ceremonial Luke in POTF2 was pretty nice for the time, but they could really make it amazing now. Looking forward to this wave overall, hopefully it won't be too deep into 2007.
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I am just happy we are going to still get the Rebel Sentry. I just hope he comes with his little floating post.
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About those jackets that Luke/Greedo and Ponda Baba wore. I read another articles somewhere (beofre the intenet?) that stated that they were European Motorcycle jackets form the 1970s with a some small changes. In fact, the OT had some pretty regular clothes used for the costumes. Luke's pants were simple khakis and Han wore brand new, unwashed jeans.
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Anyone can scan their current Lees issue with pics of the newest 2007 figs for our viewing in here.., please? 8)
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From, http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2281357&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=1&fpart=2&vc=1
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h258/bluesnaggletooth/Lees170_2.jpg)
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Why in the hell are they sculpting figures with their legs spread apart so far? The Guard and DST both suffer from Jerjerrod disease
Fett is great, hopefully it includes a poncho!
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DS Trooper looks great... Nice to see a new sculpt.
The rest look good, but just not my cup 'o tea.
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Holy Crap! That Fett is the coolest thing ever. Does it come with 2 helmets? Or is it a running change. The others look awesome too! These are so good that I'm not even upset that Biggs is not in his Tatooine gear!
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Holy Crap! That Fett is the coolest thing ever. Does it come with 2 helmets? Or is it a running change. The others look awesome too! These are so good that I'm not even upset that Biggs is not in his Tatooine gear!
I think Biggs is coming in the Tatooine Wave (with Cantina Figures)
I hope there still is a Ceremonial Luke coming as well
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Why in the hell are they sculpting figures with their legs spread apart so far? The Guard and DST both suffer from Jerjerrod disease
Somewhat, but they do have articulated knees. The Death Star Trooper and Biggs are tremendous improvements over the previous versions.
The Han is okay, too. It's basically a VOTC Han Solo with some minor changes. But I like the change in the little details like the gloves and headset. I had thought that we were going to be getting a medal ceremony Han Solo, which is truthfully kind of boring. This is at least a little more interesting.
The Rebel guard is cool, IMO. The detail looks nice, and the accessories are pretty good. I'll agree that the stance is a little wide, but it might make the figure a little more stable.
The concept Fett is kind of a mystery. It looks like there might be some kind of a cape. But the real thing that I'm wondering is whether or not there are there interchangeable heads? And what's the deal with that chest plate?
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To clear things up about the chest compartment...in one of the old Fett drawings (by Joe Johnston, if I remember) he has a flip open rocket launcher of some sort coming out of his stomach armor. Actually, it's almost a dart-launcher...funny that thye picked up on this.
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(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/2/21/Galen_torg.jpg)
Not doing things in a most movie accurate way bugs the living hell out of me, which is why I hate the stance. Everything else is spot on, why muck with the stance...WHY! Its ranking right up there as one of the most esoteric figures ever, not really an army builder, a really minor background character, who just stands there...I'll gladly buy two as he's an unmade character and those in my book are always welcome, but I'd much much much rather have seen either a new Tarkin or Ceremonial Leia.
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I hear ya. You might want to try doing what I've done with my own Moff Jerjerrod. I used some of those small, clear rubberbands that Hasbro has been using and brought Jerjerrod's ankles a little closer together.
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Oooh...
I like Han (but I always like Han). I love the re-use of the gunner gear idea for Han. Nice upgrade from the POTF2 versions. :)
I like the DS Trooper. About friggin' time for a resculpt on that one.
I like the Biggs (even if it is just another re-use of the Dutch sculpt).
I like the Rebel Guard. If they can do this guy and the Naboo Soldier, they can officially make anyone now. :P
Fett = EU = meh, but I'll most likely buy it anyway. ::)
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Han - VOTC Han was a fantastic figure, and these minor changes for the gunner gear are great.
Biggs - Vandar body was the best we could have hoped for. Can't fit in the X-Wing, but he'll match up with IE Wedge and VTSC Luke.
Death Star Trooper - Fantastic. Are those Obi-Wan Pilot legs? My only complaint is that the shoulders look too round, hopefully they can fix that by shaving them down (similar to the Death Star Gunner from this year).
Rebel Guard - Looks nice, and I'll get two to be guards. Maybe the action stance is to make it appeal to kids?
Fett - SA is good, but I'm not sure what's up with the chest or second helmet.
I'll pick them all up.
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These look really good (the articulation seems to be up in general next year):
Luke: Where's Luke?
Han: Very smart use of the VOTC body.
Biggs: Again a smart kit bash that looks excellent.
DS Trooper: Just out and out awesome. No complaints.
Rebel Sentry: I love that they even did him; the legs are kind of WTH? but I like him.
Boba: Sweetness. Don't get the helmet, but they put a lot into him. I cannot wait to see Vader and Chewie now.
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Why in the hell are they sculpting figures with their legs spread apart so far? The Guard and DST both suffer from Jerjerrod disease
Fett is great, hopefully it includes a poncho!
If it's any help. I've managed to fix the Endor Trooper legs quite well... It's a little work but it's permanent and doesn't involve cutting or anything, just boiling and freezing, but it works dandy...
The honor guard looks to have articulated knees... I'm giddy at the thought. ;D The wide stances are starting to eat a lot of stank ass though. I wish Hasbro wouldn't try to make figures interesting on their own... wide legs don't make them interesting to children.
Anyway, my thoughts on them all...
-Han rocks and I'd been asking for this one since VOTC Han came out... Han w/Gloves and a headset head is fantastic. I may even get another one to swap an extra clean head onto him with his gloves on since he does wear 'em without the headset a bit. Perfect example of what Hasbro needs to re-use int he line. SA all the way!
-Rebel Honor Guard... I don't consider him nearly as boring as the Naboo guy, Jeff, but he's definitely a bit obscure. He makes a GREAT base figure too for a Rebel Mid-Level Officer from Yavin, they just need to tool up a head with the ballcap style hat on it, or make a head with cap accessory... whatever.
I'm curious on this guy, anyone else think his visor will come down on his helmet? I hope so. :) Either way, great figure... Not what all the rumor lists were saying it was going to be (remember allt he rumors claiming it was a Rebel Fleet Trooper with the scanner pistol and the watch tower? Guess not...). Still, this is amazing and the wide leg stance is fixable so I'm ok with it... Annoyed, but it's far superior to say the Endor Rebels and their shoddy arms.
-Biggs... I'm torn. "Dutch" is not the ideal X-Wing Pilot sculpt, I'm sorry. He's way too tall and now Biggs is absurdly tall... That said, I'm going to be pretty pleased to pick up this figure regardless. I still hope for a new SA X-Winger sculpt sometime but till then "Dutch" is so-so and the headsculpt looks fantastic.
-Death Star Trooper (Imp. Naval Trooper)... Somewhere in Texas, someone needs to change his shorts I'm guessing! :) I love it... The shoulders look a little different, but beyond that it looks super articulated or damn close to it with a great removable helmet and a nice generic headsculpt. Count me in for a TRUCKLOAD of that figure. I must build my army! God I gotta start saving $.
Oh and the helmet sculpt... Wow that's sweet looking. :)
-Boba Feet (Concept)... Now, I know you're not too into him Jeff, but the concept Fett's been THE conceptual figure I've wanted since the Stormtrooper was unveiled... And man Hasbro went to town on this one with super articulation, a flame accessory, 2 headsculpts... I was hoping he'd have his poncho (cloth) too but it seems to not be. I'm curious on his abdomen too and why it opens up. Very freaky...
This wave has me happy beyond belief... And yeah articulation on this wave at least seemst o be up, up, up up, and up... Just as it should be for the $7 pricetag SW figures get these days.
That's an army builder's delight wave. I'm ordering a case of those, I must have multiples!
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Just adding in all 3 images here....
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-06/Lees_1.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-06/Lees_2.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-06/Lees_3.jpg)
EDIT:
About modifying the figure's legs so the stance isn't nearly as wide...
I take some clear rubber bands ala what Nick mentioned, but I wrap them around the figure's hips... But first, here's what I do to make the rubber band trick permanent.
I boil the figure ala a boil & pop in customizing... Very simple, nothing major for customizing or anything... I pull the figure out, and wrap a sturdy clear rubber band (one of the thicker ones works better) around the figure's legs at the hips so it secures his hips in the lower torso sockets VERY TIGHT. This is to keep the hips from bowing outward in the next step, and it prevents the hips from loosening up then from stretching).
What I do then is take the figure who is very soft and pliable now at his limbs and such, and I push in on the figure's knees so I'm pushing the legs together. Sometimes I use a small ajudstable clamp I have for hobbies (you can get these mini clamps at Sears for cheap if you're wondering). I put the figure in a bowl of ICE water... I do this all fairly quickly by the way. He freezes in place and the plastic retains the shape... It narrows the stance down, trust me.
It works on Jerjerrod, it worked on Endor Rebels too who have a horridly wide leg stance... I've done it since the POTF2 days to get like my Ceremonial Luke to stand straight for instance.
It's a thought... It does improve the looks a lot. My Endor Rebels are tolerable now... well despite the ugly arms.
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Biggs looks like a cool figure. He'd go nicely with Zev in my snowspeeder. Han... not so much. I may get him in the hopes of the Falcon coming out again next year. Death Star trooper looks great, but I don't like his arms. Rebel Soldier is pretty neat, but my favorite has to be Boba. He looks awesome.
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In the article it says there is a Luke coming who was not shown which is great news :)
Jesse...I have an extra Jerjerrod here, I'll give your tip a whirl, thanks ;)
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I'm pretty excited about this wave overall, and for some new OT figures. So far, in the first two waves, it seems like the "repacked" figures are at least good figures with some changes (the Obi-Wan in Wave 1 and the Han in this wave as examples). That I think we can live with, especially with the figures they are using.
Han - Like Jeff, I'm always excited about a Han, and this one looks pretty spiffy. Definitely a nice use of the VOTC sculpt, I'm looking forward to it.
Death Star Trooper - Very nice, and something I think many of us have been hoping for. I'll be picking up several of these if possible.
Biggs Darklighter - The Vander body is a little on the tall side, but I'm happy we're getting this figure as well. I never had the POTF2 version, and this one looks pretty nice. Always nice to further flesh out the Rebel Pilots too.
Rebel Honor Guard - Pretty cool that we're getting this figure at all. The stance is a little wide, but it looks nice otherwise.
Concept Boba Fett - I think this looks pretty nice. Concept figures aren't everyone's cup of tea, but I like the McQuarrie ones and I'm glad we're getting several next year. I'm wondering what the deal is with the helmet - interchangeable or (gasp) chase? I hadn't ever seen the opening tummy rocket thing either :). Looks like a really nice figure though, looking forward to it.
I'm also glad to see in the text that the Luke is still on the way. I'm curious what it will turn out like, it was rumored to be a Ceremonial Luke, right? Overall, another solid wave from the looks of things, and if the trend of more articulation, smart re-uses (Pilot Obi, VOTC Han, etc.), and new sculpts continues we could be in for a heck of a line next year.
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All of these figs look great IMO. I'm interested in seeing the Luke though, is it the Ceremonial Luke?
Here is some concept art of the McQuarrie/Joe Johnston Fett where you can see the flip down dart panel and the concept/alternate style helmet
(http://www.bobafettmp.com/multimedia/images/conceptdrawings/images/Concept-14.jpg)
(http://www.bobafettmp.com/multimedia/images/conceptdrawings/images/Concept-15.jpg)
(http://www.starwars.com/episode-v/bts/article/f20061019/img/6_bg.jpg)
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Wow, they are making OT figures next year? Who would have thought?.........
Ok, keep in mind that at the end of this post, I will admit to buying all of this wave and multiples of most.....
Han-Love it. They can re-issue the VOTC Han with little changes (Ceremony, Stormtrooper Belt, With Gloves, no Head-set) all day long and I will buy one of each.
Biggs-I guess this figure needs to be looked at in the entirety of the line. Compared to the POTF2 one, this thing ROCKS. Compared to expectations, it disappoints. I'll snag one or two and hope that the definative Xwing body shows up one day (maybe on Wedge) and do a head swap. Plus I like that gun.
Rebel Guard. Wide stance can be fixed (thanks to JJ) I definately like it and will get a dozen at least. It is ready for generic Rebel Officer status as well. I can't tell which sidearm he has, but that will just be a bonus. I like the almost SA too.
Boba Fett- I am not too big on Concept figures, but this figure just blows me away. It looks to have really good articulation. Definately get one.
Death Star Trooper. It looks good. But I am not convinced this is an entirely new sculpt. I think this is either ROTS Dooku or Evolutions Dooku with some changes (compare the knees and shoulders). A nice kitbash to be sure and as previously stated I will get a dozen (or more, just to get the helmet) Now as far as the boots go....this is not an Episode IV DST.....they wore lower "Jack" style boots as oppossed to these "Officer'/"Riding" style boots as seen in Ep V. And the gun while not entirely incorrect is less desirable than the one that ole Bigs is coming with. I am sure this is the last version of this guy we will ever get so I will take it and just be glad we didn't get the "Jumpsuit" version from Ep VI.
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I'm very pleased with this wave. I agree about the leg stances though, and I will have to try the boil and freeze thing.
Looks to me like Biggs might have new or different arms at least. The right arm looks to be about the same leght as the left one, which isn't the case with the Vander arms.
The DS Trooper looks darn near perfect. Not sure about the shoulders, but I'll just have to wait and see when I get one in hand.
Love all the heads sculpts too. They look pretty sharp.
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Wow, considering the amount of rehashes and repaints we got this year, this one wave totally blows me away. Imagine how fun this hobby would be if all waves were as exciting as this one?!
Funny how they show this fabulous wave on the same page as the lame-o comic packs... ;D talk about two ends of the spectrum.
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I will buy all of those Yavin figures; two each of the DST and Rebel guy.
That Boba Fett is pretty rad. My favorite part is the AT-ST driver head in his stomach. Isn't that what that is? Because that's what it looks like to me.
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**** YEAH!!! This is what I like to see when I check the SW sites! I'll be picking up all of these, and multiples of the Imperial Trooper, Rebel Guard and Boba Fett (my new Mandalorian army builder).
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Ha, is it just me or does the 2 different helmet versions have 2 different gunsas well? It certainly looks like the figure is holding them a different way (with wrist upside down or normal gun holding position) in the pic presented. Or does the gun just look different because the pic for each has the gun at different angles :-\?
Thanks Lando,
Enter the mandalorians army builders- if this is short packed as Hasbro hinted at the SDCC..then they'll be a bitch to get because of all the mandalorean army builders. It's actually perfect material for army building; if I were an army guy ..shoot I'd just paint them different colors for the different Mandalorian's armors.
The DS
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Up for Preorder at BBTS
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/menu.aspx?menu=1108
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Wow! this is a pretty awesome wave!! :o
I might be grabbing all of these too!! I can't believe what I'm seeing... The first 2 waves for the 30th anni are spectacular!
My only grips with concept Boba is the lack of color and the lack of poncho. Just looks like the popped him out of the mold and threw some accents on him from the pics of the actual product. Of course, he doesn't have much on the drawings either. Oh well. Can't have everything.
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I can't tell which sidearm he has, but that will just be a bonus.
Paul, I believe that the Rebel Honor Guard is packing a unique pistol... He has, I believe, a black version of the one Cantina Pistol... It first came out with Bo Shek and has been re-used once or twice I think. It's also the appropriate gun for Dr. Evazan if they'd ever remake him. I kind of dig the change-up for "Officers".
I really hope they make the Rebel Honor Guard with a ballcap style head sometime too... They're REALLY abundant lower level officers or somesuch at Yavin IV. There's another similar looking guy but the uniform has slight differences (and some have ascots on) but theyr'e less common and the uniform has subtle differences. The Honor Guard body though is perfect for the other officers which were everywhere... almost as abundant as regular soldiers really, haha.
Oh and I noticed the visor is down on the HG's helmet already, it just is tilted back and you see the face... I wonder if the visor is movable still though? It looks sort of big/removable. Either way it's cool, just a thought on it.
This wave just has me pumped for 2007...
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;D this is awesome. I better go into my work website and reroute my direct deposit right to Hasbro in 2007. '07 is an Amry builder/Customizer wet dream so far.
airborne clone trooper
galactic marine
concept boba (easily repaintable for Mando army)
DS officer
rebel sentry
removable helmet stormie
All the Saga Legends AOTC/ROTS rereleased clones
concept stormie
SA Super battle droid
rumored VTSC snow trooper
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I think I'll only have cash for them and nothing left over for regular main figs. The only thing that concerns me with the DS officer is, besides the head he looks kitbashed from several figs. let me know if you think I'm right or just paranoid.
Legs: black version of pilot Obi
skirt: black Jerjerrod's modified with those silver box thingys.
Torso & arms: Dooku's instead of the removable hands they're the extra long gloves.
Also where does that hose on Han plug into ???
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From BBTS (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS13027&mode=retail&picture=out):
(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/HAS13027.jpg)
Hmm. . .
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COOL! Luke!
Han- Wow,it isn't Cantina!
Luke- Great looking figure!
Wedge- Eh, I'd prefer VTSC Luke body but I don't have a Wedge so beggers can't be choosers
DST- I like it! Hopefully there'll be a head variation
Rebel- Good more Rebels for my troops to kill!
Boba Fett- Best of the wave!
I'm picking up every figuire. So fdar '07 is the best year ever!
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The head looks a little...wierd...but I think this is one of those figures that will look much better in person.
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Wedge- Eh, I'd prefer VTSC Luke body but I don't have a Wedge so beggers can't be choosers
*cough* Biggs *cough*
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(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3750/lukeze5.jpg) (http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/1200/rebelrf8.jpg)
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2554/bobahy7.jpg) (http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/4987/hanpz5.jpg)
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7919/trooperho9.jpg) (http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/3864/biggsnd0.jpg)
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I like them, they look good, although, with the Rebel Pilot helmets, can they make the chin straps thinner? I think that was my main problem with the VTSC Luke pilot.
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Wow! Thanks Matt, those are really nice pics! compartment in boba? Looks like maybe a thermal detonator on the flip down door or maybe some kind of droid brain?
wonder if these are final versions? The detail in the fire looks incredible. I'm really impressed with all the shown head sculpts..to me, it almost seems as though Hasbro is using a new designer or has newer team members...the paint apps look really refreshing/new? to me too..I wonder
If these are final versions than this will likely be one of my best waves/lines ever
hands down as far as paint, sculpt and artic.. Look at those elbow joints on a couple of those figs...I distinctly remember Hasbro saying they don't like doing that style in QandA's. Looks like someone had a change in philosophy..Q is.. how will it affect my wallet?
TheDS
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Wedge- Eh, I'd prefer VTSC Luke body but I don't have a Wedge so beggers can't be choosers
*cough* Biggs *cough*
...Biggs...
Same damn thing...they're both semi- important x-wing pilots.
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Swivel elbows on Han? Why? They had the whole damn VOTC body already, why go through the trouble of creating new arms? Ah well, it's still a good looking figure. Looks like he's missing ankle articulation as well, meaning the sculpted new legs?
Luke looks good from the head down. I hope that either it looks much better in person or they use the VOTC/VTSC headsculpt. I'm digging it though, that holster looks awesome.
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No Artoo, Wedge and Biggs is NOT the same thing. Biggs dies in ANH, while Wedge lives, and takes down the first AT-AT Walker in ESB, and helps Lando blow up the SECOND Death Star, semi-important pilot , yeah right
YAVIN FOUR looks fantastic by the way!!!
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AWESOME! my favorite by far is the cremony luke.
PERFECT wave. as of now, i see nothing that is fair game for negative comments by me. (although the DST's wide legs are a point of concern)
if hasbro could make EVERY wave next year as good as the first two look, it will be a SUPER year. besides the obi-wan and R2 in Wave 1, i see no figures i plan on NOT buying. YAY, and thanks Hasbro! ;D
wow, im just thrilled and amazed that the big H didnt screw up like I thought they would.
once again, i am REALLY, REALLY excited for that luke. he looks like one of the best figs ever. is that han solo votc? doesnt look like it, but the articulation and sculpt still look on par with it.
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I still can't believe what I'm seeing for the first two waves... I feel like I must be dreaming.
Someone wake me if I am.
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I agree, these are friggin' fantastic. Hopefully all of the "Saga Legends" repacks will keep profits high so that the new stuff can be created on this level. Great, great wave.
I'm wondering if Hasbro will realize that there would be a nitch/nostalgia market for that DST painted grey.
If the rest of the McQuarrie figs are this top shelf, this will be my favorite collecting year ever! And I've been doin' it since 1978!
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I still can't believe what I'm seeing for the first two waves... I feel like I must be dreaming.
Tell me about it! :D
So far, these look like the best 2 waves EVER, at least in my opinion. Next year will surely be amazing!
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They do look very nice. For me:
Fett - I really wanted the poncho...ala...Clint Eastwood look but it's still a very cool looking figure IMO. The dart - stomach thing is great! I actually like the flame to.
Han - Eh, I don't care for the swivel joints on the arms....glad they sort of repacked a VOTC Han though. I will get it...if nothing else for the Han Solo coin. and nifty cord/headset :)
Luke - It looks good enought to pick up another for me...I'm kind of a sucker for the OT anyway. It does look better than I thought it would be.
Death Star Trooper - I just think that's badass....I will have to buy about 4 of those at least.
Sentry - Funky enough background guy for me. I will get the mandatory 2 for sure.
Biggs - Eh, removeable helmet will get me to buy it and the coin. I like the Dutch Vander mold on those X-Wing pilots anyway. Come on Hasbro...you know you want to release Wedge at retail....just do it!
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My only problem with the Vander X-Wing sculpt is the height, he must have been as tall as I am (over 6'4")...he towers over the rest of the squad. I'd hope they could at least shorten the legs a little bit or something
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Luke looks great. Lots of articulation there. This has to be one of the most well rounded waves in a very long time. What a great start to next year (and all two per case!)
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I'm with you on the Biggs figure, Scott. I'm bothered by that sculpt... I'm not satisfied with the Wedge that uses it, and Biggs will annoy me some too. It's not definitive... Maybe something to bring up to Hasbro at some point there. It is definitely taller and stands out. Hell with Luke there it looks akward.
The Han's arms are a surprise... I'm ok with it, it's still very poseable, but just seems odd to resculpt that. Did anyone else notice that Han either has a NEW blaster sculpted for him, or he's using the one his Hoth figure had?
And finally Luke!
-Luke Ceremonial... Outstanding sculpt. The head's paintjob seems iffy... Articulation seems fantastic, and it's nice to see Hasbro heeding the question they got asked about the new "holsters" being a sort of standard. The thigh-strap adds a ton of realistic detail IMO.
Oh, and now in the new picture the Rebel Guard has a RFT's blaster while in the Lee's photo he has Bo Shek's...
I'm assuming these are hand-painted prototypes. You can tell mostly by the paint being so thick and vibrant, and the joints not fitting together as well as production stuff does... Great photos though to give us an idea of what we have coming. This is a wave of home runs to me so far.
The likes of which we haven't seen since 2004's Cantina Wave if you ask me. 2005 had some great stuff in it though, don't get me wrong, but the fact this is all classic, includes great resculpts and obscurity... And it's all top-quality it seems too... Man this is why I still collect.
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About modifying the figure's legs so the stance isn't nearly as wide...
I take some clear rubber bands ala what Nick mentioned, but I wrap them around the figure's hips... But first, here's what I do to make the rubber band trick permanent.
I boil the figure ala a boil & pop in customizing... Very simple, nothing major for customizing or anything... I pull the figure out, and wrap a sturdy clear rubber band (one of the thicker ones works better) around the figure's legs at the hips so it secures his hips in the lower torso sockets VERY TIGHT. This is to keep the hips from bowing outward in the next step, and it prevents the hips from loosening up then from stretching).
What I do then is take the figure who is very soft and pliable now at his limbs and such, and I push in on the figure's knees so I'm pushing the legs together. Sometimes I use a small ajudstable clamp I have for hobbies (you can get these mini clamps at Sears for cheap if you're wondering). I put the figure in a bowl of ICE water... I do this all fairly quickly by the way. He freezes in place and the plastic retains the shape... It narrows the stance down, trust me.
It works on Jerjerrod, it worked on Endor Rebels too who have a horridly wide leg stance... I've done it since the POTF2 days to get like my Ceremonial Luke to stand straight for instance.
It's a thought... It does improve the looks a lot. My Endor Rebels are tolerable now... well despite the ugly arms.
Hey Jesse James, thanks so much for this info. The wide stance on the DS Trooper and Honor Guard really do annoy me and I think I'm seriously going to look into following your technique above. Do you have any pics of what your figures looked like after you narrowed the stance? Is it in a thread somewhere? I may try this out on an extra RotS Obi Wan Pilot if I can dig one up.... my only concern is that the ankle articulation might be screwed up if the boil and pop isn't just right.
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Just wondering, if you squeeze the legs together, don't the feet end up at a strange angle?
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Yeah, that's why I wanted to see some pictures first before I try anything :)
I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but Galactic Hunter is confirming that the Concept Boba will include BOTH helmets -- thankfully there is no "chase figure" as some worried. Regardless, I'm buying two anyway so I can display both helmets at once...
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-Luke Ceremonial... The thigh-strap adds a ton of realistic detail IMO.
The only problem I see with the thigh strap is that it limits the range of motion for that leg – being that the leg is now tied to the waist through the holster.
Not that we'd need him in any position other than "at ease" or "attention".
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Not on my Endor guy they didn't, but what you could do is have the figure held to a stand when you put it into the ice water... pics may be possible, I'll just have to try sometime. My camera isn't compatible with my old computer here at home though, so I do my photographing at my gf's place if I do it at all, haha...
Anyway, the feet can be "froze" flat like anything else... I've found often times though that the feet on Hasbro figures aren't flat anyway so sometimes you actually freeze them straight by default.
About the thigh-strap, Garindan had one and it really didn't limit the movement of the right leg (that I recall, my figure's not handy to check better). I think though he could be posed sitting... the holster just basically moved with it and didn't tear or anything. Definitely looks better than the hovering holster of VOTC/VTSC Han though, that's for sure...
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Definitely looks better than the hovering holster of VOTC/VTSC Han though, that's for sure...
True dat
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I hate to say that the Luke is looking to be the sharpest one in the wave. The BBTS picture of the DS Trooper makes it look better than the magazine photo, thankfully.
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I have a strong suspicion that we really have JJ to partially thank for the standards of this new line, based on his Reviews (and the Q and A questions that everyone here submits). It just seems too convenient that all the new figures are SA, and Hasbro repeatedly stated that SA costs are prohibitive (yet the new figures have it anyway, and about the only place I can think of that demands SA in figures is here!). So thanks, JJ!
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That and the annivesary - on Pawlus' editorial at EE.com he mentions that these Yavin figures fill a void that was not filled in 1979.
So far, Hasbro seems to be pulling no punches in regards to 2007 - let's just see how the pricing works out...I have a feeling it won't be pretty...
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Wow, just when I thought we were hitting rock bottom with all of the repacks and repaints set to come out, they throw us something that completley restores my excitement about the line in general.
I'm going to probably end up buying way too many of the troops.
Great stuff all around! If the other upcoming waves are going to be at this level of quality, it's going to be a great year for SW.
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(http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/1200/rebelrf8.jpg)
"Do I seem to have the leaning curse??"
Or is it the photograph?? ???
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;D this is awesome. I better go into my work website and reroute my direct deposit right to Hasbro in 2007. '07 is an Amry builder/Customizer wet dream so far.
airborne clone trooper
galactic marine
concept boba (easily repaintable for Mando army)
DS officer
rebel sentry
removable helmet stormie
All the Saga Legends AOTC/ROTS rereleased clones
concept stormie
SA Super battle droid
rumored VTSC snow trooper
:o
I think I'll only have cash for them and nothing left over for regular main figs. The only thing that concerns me with the DS officer is, besides the head he looks kitbashed from several figs. let me know if you think I'm right or just paranoid.
Legs: black version of pilot Obi
skirt: black Jerjerrod's modified with those silver box thingys.
Torso & arms: Dooku's instead of the removable hands they're the extra long gloves.
Also where does that hose on Han plug into ???
I hope it's not cliche to quote my own post but with the new pic of Luke coming right after mine I wasn't sure anybody would have bothered reading it, not that what I have to say is that important, but I was really curious about what everybody thought about my hypothesis about the DS trooper
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I think these all look good. I've been waiting for the DST for a very long time. I think he looks great except for those knees. I mean, that just looks horrible for a final product from Hasbro. I understand it's harder to hide the articulation but the Ceremonial Luke knees look just fine and it's basically the same outfit (pants and high boots) so it's not like it can't be done. Is it maybe because they were made by different sculptors? Anyway, I hope it turns out looking better in person.
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7919/trooperho9.jpg)
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3750/lukeze5.jpg)
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Legs: black version of pilot Obi
skirt: black Jerjerrod's modified with those silver box thingys.
Torso & arms: Dooku's instead of the removable hands they're the extra long gloves.
I hope it's not cliche to quote my own post but with the new pic of Luke coming right after mine I wasn't sure anybody would have bothered reading it, not that what I have to say is that important, but I was really curious about what everybody thought about my hypothesis about the DS trooper
Ok I am beginning to think my theory of it being Dooku completely with a new head are wrong and you are closer to the mark. But yes, it appears to be a kit bash.
I have been waiting for this figure with almost as much anticipation as JJ has for a new RFT (maybe 2008 if we are lucky)...so I am excited and disappointed at the same time. We are miles ahead of where we were, but we still have a ways to go to get to Perfection for me.
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(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2554/bobahy7.jpg)
What in the hell is that coming out of his stomach? An umbilical cord? A microwave dinner? A cheap rip off of Alien?
Just tell me you can close the toaster oven door. :-\
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Yeah, that's why I wanted to see some pictures first before I try anything :)
I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but Galactic Hunter is confirming that the Concept Boba will include BOTH helmets -- thankfully there is no "chase figure" as some worried. Regardless, I'm buying two anyway so I can display both helmets at once...
and here... at Entertainment earth under the casepack discription
2x McQuarrie Concept Boba Fett (includes two different helmets).
Good to know Hasbro listened to the booers at the SDCC when they announced they were leaning towards limiting/shortpacking mcQuarrie concept figures in this line.
The DS
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What in the hell is that coming out of his stomach? An umbilical cord? A microwave dinner? A cheap rip off of Alien?
It's a compartment for spare darts, you know, for his dart gun! :D
I'm pretty sure it closes.
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That's no dart gun, it's a frickin' pot roast. Or a turd.
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That's no dart gun, it's a frickin' pot roast. Or a turd.
Tell me you wouldn't like to be able to travel with a nice hot pot roast everywhere you go.
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Remind me of this gem from our childhood (most of us anyway) days:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/somber77/rio.jpg)
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What in the hell is that coming out of his stomach? An umbilical cord? A microwave dinner? A cheap rip off of Alien?
Just tell me you can close the toaster oven door. :-\
It is his "special purpose"....
And mine will have his super glued shut.
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I actually have one of those.........in my pants ;D
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the DST's legs remind me of Pilot Obi's. :P and i dont know about that rebel sentry , looks a wee bit crappy. otherwise, im still very happy w/this wave.
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im going to buy two DST/BOBA/REBEL TROOPER. maybe even more of the boba...he just looks friggin awsome.
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Y'know what it looks like in Boba's chest hole? The centipede like thingy's in AOTC.
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What in the hell is that coming out of his stomach? An umbilical cord? A microwave dinner? A cheap rip off of Alien?
Just tell me you can close the toaster oven door. :-\
Dude, the Pop Tart's ready.
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(http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/1200/rebelrf8.jpg)
Am I the only one a little annoyed that this is the best Rebel Soldier we have in the modern line (not that he's out yet of course)? No Fleet Trooper, no Hoth Rebel, and no Endor Rebel figure compares to the quality of this guy, and yet this is just a guy seen briefly once chilling in a background sequence (though I make the argument again that the uniform is common... He's just missing a hat).
I want my goddamn Fleet Troopers, Hoth Rebels, and Endor Rebels that are THIS good or better. >:(
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Remind me of this gem from our childhood (most of us anyway) days:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/somber77/rio.jpg)
He Man is ****** if someone gets behind him...hell, they could take him out with a well-timed spork (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spork) attack!
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(http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/1200/rebelrf8.jpg)
Am I the only one a little annoyed that this is the best Rebel Soldier we have in the modern line (not that he's out yet of course)? No Fleet Trooper, no Hoth Rebel, and no Endor Rebel figure compares to the quality of this guy, and yet this is just a
guy seen briefly once chilling in a background sequence (though I make the argument again that the uniform is common... He's just missing a hat).
AMEN !!!!!! Where is our rebel army? I've got clones and Imperial troops coming out my :-X, the corners and the sharp edges on the armor hurt a little, but where's our rebels none of what we have can be considered really worthy of army building because most of them lack real articulation. I really liked Capt. Antilles and would have army built him a bit more if he'd had better articulation.
I want my goddamn Fleet Troopers, Hoth Rebels, and Endor Rebels that are THIS good or better. >:(
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I have a feeling that the Honor Guard will pave the way for a new/better Fleet trooper sculpt. It's just too bad that we're getting two new head sculpts on that sup-par body next year.
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wave 2 is made very well, but i won't buy a figure, i think, they are all characters i dont need or im not interested in, and i hate lukes face :O
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I wish we were getting the floating platform for the guard :-\
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The Yavin guard, to me looks like the most exciting figure from the group. So many possibilities for him... head swaps, and you can have all kinds of random citizens that could fit into a lot of dioramas. Also perhaps he could also be used for early Rebel troopers.
;)
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New loose and carded pics at SSG (http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&p2_articleid=517)
Luke looks so much better now. I knew it was just the paint.
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i dont think hasbro could have done ANY better on that luke! it looked fantastic loose, looks even better carded! ;D looks like he has a lightsaber hilt that can go on the belt. i also like carded biggs. for some reason i dont like the carded concept boba, will probably just open it and put TSC luke #36's poncho on it.
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Luke's hair and face still look like **** to me, but that's just me
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Man, say what you will about Hasbro, but they've put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into next years line. From the character specific blister card artwork , to the individually tooled coins, the line is looking to be one of the best ever.
Good stuff.
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Luke's hair and face still look like **** to me, but that's just me
Yup, total agreement. Worst figure of the bunch due to poor likeness. That does not look like Mark Hamill at all.
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Well I am excited about seeing those figures carded. One thing has me bummed though. It looks like the packaged coins are actually random. I thought it would be a Luke coin with a Luke figure. But it looks like you just get whatever coin it is. That kind of stinks.
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I saw the pics over at GH as well, and they do mention that the coins they are packaged with in the pictures are not correct. It sounds like they will indeed come with character specific coins (aside from the 'Saga Legends' assortment of course). I have to say I really like the character specific packaging. Sure, all the angles and edges is a little different, but something just seems cool about seeing those big pics of Han, Luke, Biggs, etc. on the card like that. Not a "movie photo" exactly, but it does remind me of the vintage days a little bit.
The Luke head/sculpt still looks a little wonky to me too, but that figure looks top notch otherwise. I have to agree with what ruiner said earlier, so far this line looks pretty amazing for next year. We haven't had any straight repacks in the first two waves, the figures so far seem to be pretty well articulated, the cards/coins are character specific, etc. Things are looking pretty good for next year, I hope it continues.
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(http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/6079-luke.jpg)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/POTF2lukeceremonyloose.jpg)
Behold the wonderful world of sculpting progress!
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New loose and carded pics at SSG (http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&p2_articleid=517)
Luke looks so much better now. I knew it was just the paint.
I'm still confused how they can have the picture on the card show Luke as irrevocably blond yet the figure cleary has BROWN hair..... The face also looks more "Han-ish" than "Luke-ish" - I like the head sculpt from the POTF figure better.
Oboewan
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Almost looks like the visors on the DS Trooper and Honor Guard are working.
The DS Trooper is looking much better IMO.
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(http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/6079-luke.jpg)
Why does Hasbro continue to give Luke the wrong saber hilt!
Please, Please, PLEASE Hasbro watch the movies once in a while. >:(
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Man, say what you will about Hasbro, but they've put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into next years line. From the character specific blister card artwork , to the individually tooled coins, the line is looking to be one of the best ever.
Good stuff.
I agree. The artwork is sweet!! makes one want to weep.
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Yeah, I agree. They have seem to put some more effort into the 30th year line. I am glad they will have character specific coins now that match the figure itself. Hopefully they will make a grey version of the DS trooper. That would be a nice nod to the vintage figure IMO. I actually like the artwork of the characters. That's a nice touch. I don't really care for the odd cutouts on the card itself. At least they are showing some creativity.
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Man, say what you will about Hasbro, but they've put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into next years line. From the character specific blister card artwork , to the individually tooled coins, the line is looking to be one of the best ever.
I agree. The artwork is sweet!! makes one want to weep.
All this and at what cost will it be to us?
DS
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All this and at what cost will it be to us?
I checked the Target DPCI over lunch and it still shows up in the system at $6.99 (at least in MN).
Of course, keep in mind that Target has been known to start new series out high...
2004 - OTC started at $5.99, but dropped to $5.44 within a month
2005 - ROTS started at $5.99, but dropped down to $4.99 within a few weeks
2006 - TSC started at $6.99, but dropped down to $5.89 within a month or so (and then went back up to $6.64 a few months later ::))
Target will always come down after a bit to match Wal-Mart (once they are sure the Wal-Mart price is not a promo/gimmick), but they almost never start out as the lowest. Hopefully Wal-Mart will start off closer to $6 so Target is forced to price drop sooner rather than later.
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All this and at what cost will it be to us?
Of course, keep in mind that Target has been known to start new series out high...
I know, which is why I mentioned that :(
Hopefully Wal-Mart will start off closer to $6 so Target is forced to price drop sooner rather than later.
Sadly, I feel the figs next year will be between 7-8$ :(. I really REALLY want to be wrong though ;)
I too, know what the DCPI's have read. However it doesn't mean that prices won't change and be ridiculous when the figures actually hit.--I hate saying the reality of it :-X
The DS
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:PWhich means I'll have to get the Rehashes if I want the coins :P More custom Fodder
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im actually going to try finishing the whole 30th an. besic figure collection whe nit come sout now. looks like hasbro is really improving and im quite impressed.
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ive used ROTS #14 Palpys for customs before, and the legs on luke in that close up pic look a lot like repainted legs of #14 Palpy. im cool with that, just no foot/boot articulation. not like he needs it.
i just noticed. thought id bring it up.
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Sadly, I feel the figs next year will be between 7-8$ :(. I really REALLY want to be wrong though ;)
I get that creepy feeling as well. Especially since two Targets near me are already at $7.64.
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Sadly, I feel the figs next year will be between 7-8$ :(. I really REALLY want to be wrong though ;)
I get that creepy feeling as well. Especially since two Targets near me are already at $7.64.
That's more than a feeling. That's irrefutable evidence.
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$7.64? Good lord that's getting out of hand. A couple Targets in my area are $5.86, but most places are in the $6.63-$6.99 range.
;)
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& in '08 theprice willbe 8.99. ::)
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Sadly, I feel the figs next year will be between 7-8$ :(. I really REALLY want to be wrong though ;)
I get that creepy feeling as well. Especially since two Targets near me are already at $7.64.
That's more than a feeling. That's irrefutable evidence.
Not necessarily. One of those Targets is brand new, and higher prices are always the case in new targets, and none of the 7 other Targets in my area have risen their prices.
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I ordered a case of Wave 2 from New Force Comics - just $79.94 shipped (works out to $6.66 per figure).
Can't beat that price. It's basically the same as Target, but shipped right to your door! ;)
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NFC has been sold out of this wave for a while now. For whatever reason, I had been checking back, just in case more became available and it payed off. I was able to order one case yesterday.
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Received my wave 2 yesterday and I was disappointed.
Han Solo - Nice detail, good articulation but Han looks anorexic and a tad lanky.
Rebel Guard - woeful figure. Reminds of a 70's plastic solider. Cheap and nasty.
Death Star Trooper - Ok sculpting, ok articulation but what do The Empire give thier men in way of vitamins? This chap has a serious does of rickets and he looks ridiculous.
Luke Skywalker - I like this one. Nice sculpting, some really nice detail and decent likeness.
Biggs Darklighter - The best figure in the wave but still Hasbro **** it up with the ROM of Bigg's right arm.
Concept Bobe Fett - love the two heads but thats about it.
Overall - not a single figure that I consider to be a must have or even decent addition to anyones collection. Here's hoping wave 3 is better.
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Wave 2 already, I just found the first wave. Where did you find them?
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can you please provide us with pictures of wave 2? not doubting you just curious of what they look like in their final form.
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Wave 2 already, I just found the first wave. Where did you find them?
I'm Uk based and R2Dtoys tend to get figures in well before thier official release date.
Will post a picture as soon as I figure out how to do it.
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Pics anyone? Wow, I think wave 2 looks great.
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Rebel Guard - woeful figure. Reminds of a 70's plastic solider. Cheap and nasty.
Death Star Trooper - Ok sculpting, ok articulation but what do The Empire give thier men in way of vitamins? This chap has a serious does of rickets and he looks ridiculous.
I don't know man, both are 14 points of articulation, removable helmets, nice sculpt. Both look pretty nice to me. It sounds to me especially with the Rebel Honor Guard that you just don't like the movie character or the uniform. I hope more people feel like this, it'd make it easier for me to army build the hell out of them.
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h258/bluesnaggletooth/Lees170_2.jpg)
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Received my wave 2 yesterday and I was disappointed.
Han Solo - Nice detail, good articulation but Han looks anorexic and a tad lanky.
Rebel Guard - woeful figure. Reminds of a 70's plastic solider. Cheap and nasty.
Death Star Trooper - Ok sculpting, ok articulation but what do The Empire give thier men in way of vitamins? This chap has a serious does of rickets and he looks ridiculous.
Luke Skywalker - I like this one. Nice sculpting, some really nice detail and decent likeness.
Biggs Darklighter - The best figure in the wave but still Hasbro **** it up with the ROM of Bigg's right arm.
Concept Bobe Fett - love the two heads but thats about it.
Overall - not a single figure that I consider to be a must have or even decent addition to anyones collection. Here's hoping wave 3 is better.
Really? I think this wave looks more awesome than you describe, but that's just me and I've only seen pictures. Biggs and Luke do look incredible though and Rebel Honor Guard does indeed look like a cheap 70s plastic soldier, cheap and nasty.
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Received my wave 2 yesterday and I was disappointed.
Death Star Trooper - Ok sculpting, ok articulation but what do The Empire give thier men in way of vitamins? This chap has a serious does of rickets and he looks ridiculous.
I feel somewhat the same about this one, and that's just based on the images. I had high expectations of this figure, but I think this may be an instance where the articulation is negatively impacting the final product. The joints look a bit bulbous, and not as well camouflaged as they are on some other figures like the Saga Gold Dutch Vander & TIE Pilot.
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I agree with Dressel that I think you're being hard on the honor guard because of the character's outfit more than the quality of the figure, but that's ok too... I find some stuff boring and it influences my opinion on things as well Nick.
The Death Star Trooper's a mixture. I think I see some of what Hasbro was actually going with and it's not that the articulation wasn't hidden, at least from what I've seen, as much as it's their attempt at using the ball joint as PART of the sculpt. For instance the knees especially... The joint is at the top of the boot where the pants on the IMperial uniforms bunch up. I thinK Hasbro was going for a bunched up "ball" of pants at that joint and it's not that the sculpting was bad... It just makes the joint now look poofier, and to us more noticeable.
The elbows I can't tell if they're hideous or not from photos... I'm curious to see it in person. The shoulders though I think Hasbro was again trying to capture something of the Imperial uniform jacket by incorporating the ball/sockets as part of the sculpt. The Imperial jackets are a little broader and "sharp". A ball/socket's not easy to slip in there so I think the way the joint sits out is an attempt to sort of give that broader shoulder look to it. Can't say myself how well that turned out though of course. I've noticed they try to use ball/sockets to their advantage as part of the sculpt where possible though. To me the knees are going to be fine I think, because of where the joint is. It's the arms I hope are nicer looking in person.
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im starting to think people hate the rebel guard only because he is not in a white uniform with a helmet that looks like it is smiling at you if you turn it upside down.
wave 2 looks awsome though. the DST figure looks good. he knee joints look fine and i am betting that it is just uniform and Jesse is right. they did they same thing on obi i beleive. the honor guard looks awsome. i am only hoping he looks as good in person. he is something different that we don't have.
luke is a well overdue figure and looks to be fantastic.
boba...well nuff said :)
biggs is another good looking figure although i would have prefered them to use a new sculpt but owell. he is a pilot and we dont have many of them.( good ones that is)
and Han well i have a luke from the falcon shooting scene with the head set buy never a Han. now i get my chance for that han and i am excited to get him.
this wave looks amazing and i cant wait for it. not saying it is the best but its got some pretty good figures with all of them being close to SA
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Looking very forward to this wave...
Han Solo - don't really need another Han, but I'm sure I'll get one, but no more than one.
Luke - I'll get one, maybe two if it seems to have good customizing potential.
Biggs - Already have at least 20 of Dutch Vander, and it's the same sculpt, so just one Biggs for me.
Fett - Hard to say, I like how it looks but I'm really considering a huge scale back on collecting this year. A couple years ago I would have wanted at least a dozen of these for a fan fic army, but not I'm really only wanting a few.
Death Star Trooper - I hope I can hold back and just get 4-6 of these but chance are, on this one I WILL get at least a dozen.
Yavin Guard - Looks like the BEST figure out of the wave to me... generic looking figures like this that can be used in so many dioramas are a rarity I think, so I want a lot of these... have to get them.
:P
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Quick rundown, I got this wave last week via HK air ship at $89 for the case, overall a superb wave. My biggest complaint is the MQ Boba Fett. He literally falls in half when you try to open his concealed waist gun. the plug connection is so thin, not good for kids but still a cool figure overall. My other complaint is Lukes molded skin color. Its exactly like Habros ML White Queen so it takes away from the figure even though he is a nice sculpt. The Han is very cool and not as kit bashed as you think armas and legs are new but the real run away perfection is the Death Star Trooper he is the best figure in the wave. The case ratio is as follows x2 of everyone. Biggs is nice and the Ceromonial Dude is a bit boring but made very well. I am definatly army building with the DS trooper!
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That sounds great! Can you take any pics? Also, how does the Luke compare in size to any of his previous incarnations?
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Wow! I really like the Rebel Honor Guard and Death Star Trooper. **** I like the entire wave. I dont' know if I'll buy them all but do not have any gripes (or at least not many).
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Got to open up the entire set last night. Here are my thoughts.
Biggs, adequate. Nice head sculpt, nice helmet mold, but would have like more details on the sides of it. I can accept the body, but I don't think Hasbro can get away with using it for too much longer. I think new arms would have made a huge difference.
Han, another adequate figure. I think my only gripe is the swivel elbows. If this wasn't gunner Han, I'd have been okay with swivel, but I think if a new gunner seat was released, ball joint elbows would be essential.
Luke, second best figure of the wave. Sure, the head sculpt is off, but otherwise it's a solid sculpt with perfect articulation.
Rebel Honor Guard, if it wasn't for the leg stance, this would be a perfect figure. I'll have to find a way to correct it.
Boba is just cool. Best of the wave IMO. It's only flaw is the stomach compartment. The panel falls off easily because of how the waist is designed to accommodate it. I would also have liked a separate flame thrower accessor without the flame. but can't complain otherwise.
DS Trooper, biggest disappointment form me. One of two things killed this figure, either the sculptor or the articulation. Or a combination of both. There is no fluidity to the design. Each joint sticks out like a sore thumb and really detracts from the athletics of the figure. The stance is also a detraction. I have to turn each knee 180 degrees to help it not look do awkward. Sorry, but Hasbro really dropped the ball on this figure.
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I think this wave looks okay, but I am passing on it. Nothing really reaches out and grabs my attention and I don't see a pressing need for anything in the wave.
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Got to open up the entire set last night. Here are my thoughts.
Biggs, adequate. Nice head sculpt, nice helmet mold, but would have like more details on the sides of it. I can accept the body, but I don't think Hasbro can get away with using it for too much longer. I think new arms would have made a huge difference.
Han, another adequate figure. I think my only gripe is the swivel elbows. If this wasn't gunner Han, I'd have been okay with swivel, but I think if a new gunner seat was released, ball joint elbows would be essential.
Luke, second best figure of the wave. Sure, the head sculpt is off, but otherwise it's a solid sculpt with perfect articulation.
Rebel Honor Guard, if it wasn't for the leg stance, this would be a perfect figure. I'll have to find a way to correct it.
Boba is just cool. Best of the wave IMO. It's only flaw is the stomach compartment. The panel falls off easily because of how the waist is designed to accommodate it. I would also have liked a separate flame thrower accessor without the flame. but can't complain otherwise.
DS Trooper, biggest disappointment form me. One of two things killed this figure, either the sculptor or the articulation. Or a combination of both. There is no fluidity to the design. Each joint sticks out like a sore thumb and really detracts from the athletics of the figure. The stance is also a detraction. I have to turn each knee 180 degrees to help it not look do awkward. Sorry, but Hasbro really dropped the ball on this figure.
Anton, or anybody else that's lucky enough to have already found this, are the heads for the DS troop and Honor Guard interchangable. Back in the day when Capt. Antilles and Admr. Ozzel came out their head could interchange easily. That's one complaint I do have with Hasbro, if you're going to give these guys pop off heads the least you could do on most of them is make the heads interchangable. Even the clones can't interchange their heads and they're all supposed to be the same person, basically.
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Unfortunately they are not - somebody already commented on that over on RS... I agree though, if they do ball joints, then the heads should be compatible from one figure to another.
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Ok I got DS Trooper, Rebel, Luke and Han from Australia today..
I'll do a bit better write up later...but most everybody has covered it, but I do have some special words for the DS Trooper....
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Anton, or anybody else that's lucky enough to have already found this, are the heads for the DS troop and Honor Guard interchangable.
No. :( First thing I tried. In fact, the DS trooper helmet is molded to fit his hair.
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Those heads are pretty cool nonetheless, very good for generic civilian or Jedi customs. :)
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Yup as previously stated the heads don't swap...the helmets are pretty one head wonders too.
I've tried to put several heads on these (including the 28 I made for DS Gunners) and the only ones that fit and look fairly normal are....Kir Kanos and Carnor Jax which seem to fit pretty good on the Rebel...,but his helmet won't even begin to go on their head. None fit the DS Trooper because he neck is "lurched" forward a bit. And Moff Jerjerrod fits on the DST I need a sharpie for the hat though.
On a side note...Luke's head post is unique and can't be replaced with a VOTC/VTSC version...Han Gunner is also unique and can't be replaced with VOTC/VTSC Han heads. (I was going to put the head and hands on a spare VOTC to get the ball jointed elbows).
It is no secret that one of my favorite characters is the Death Star Trooper (Death Squad Commander to me for so many years)..this one just doesn't cut it for me. I am not as upset with it as say Jesse is over the RFT or Chewie is with the lack of playsets, but I really wanted something different.
Cons:
THE BOOTS ARE WRONG for Episode IV. Plain and Simple. T
he Helmet doesn't fit or look right.
Wrong Weapon for Episode IV.
Awkward stance.
Neck Paint is an entirely different color than the plastic used for the head (and I am 100% in support of flesh colored plastic over painted)
Pros:
Articulation is great (I'll trade Sculpt for Articulation if sculpt is not entirelyl compromised)
Except for the boots, the Uniform is very well represented.
An Imperial without a Clone Head..REVOLUTIONARY indeed.
Possibility of a Gray one.
So don't let the negativity fool you..I'm still snagging 12-24....this will be the last time we see this guy, better get em while I can.
As for the comment that the Rebel is too much like a green plastic army man....that is the appeal or me. He is good for what he is. 12-24 of him too.
After looking at Luke and Han's boots, I think I can be convinced that the ankles are perhaps the least important part of articulation for me.
Luke is my favorite of the bunch. I am going to try to get pictures or hook up with Rob so he can take some.
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Yeah I noticed the wrong gun too. It should be the gun the RFTs were using at the beginning.
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After looking at Luke and Han's boots, I think I can be convinced that the ankles are perhaps the least important part of articulation for me.
I generally agree so long as the ankles aren't pre-posed. It's tough to look at Cody and say ankles aren't important. What's important though, more than the articulation, is that the feet are simply sculpted flat and "neutral" instead of that lean Hasbro loves to give some figures. Cody still burns me up. Hasbro really screwed the pooch on him.
I'd also add that, while some may disagree, I find that the waist is one joint you sometimes can look at omitting like ankles. It doesn't bother me on the Evo Sandtrooper or Evo Clone (E2) sculpts anyway.
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So don't let the negativity fool you..I'm still snagging 12-24....this will be the last time we see this guy, better get em while I can.
Same here. I have 36-37 to get. :-X
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Ever notice how the rebel honor guard head looks alot like General Tagg from the DS Briefing set?
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Just a heads up for people, portions of this wave (Han/Luke/Biggs) are currently in stock at HTS.com. It looks like the McQuarrie Fett, Rebel Honor Guard, and Death Star Trooper are out at the moment.
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Scored on this big time this morning. Went yesterday and found Han and Luke and stashed them because pay day is today. Went in this morning found my Han and Luke and went back over to toy isle and BAM!!!
Got 2x McFett's-left 2
1 han-3 or 4 left
1 luke-same as Han
1 Biggs-same as Han
but damn I couldn't resist all the Honor Guards and DS troops.
4 DS troops
2 Honor Guards.
Side note-with the Illum set at $4.98 there were 3 on the shelf, but 2 were missing the Padme's, box wasn't even retaped shut. I'm intrested in the Cham driods only, should I go back and get them all even though 2 of them were still missing Padme's. At $5 it's hard to resist especially since I haven't seen them at any of the other local Targets.
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but damn I couldn't resist all the Honor Guards and DS troops.
Didn't anyone ever tell you "Resistance is Futile?" ;)
Congrats on the nice score!
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Maybe take those two sets that are missing Padme to customer service, tell they they are missing that figure, and see if they'll sell them even cheaper?
Either way, if you spend $7.00 on a basic figure, then $5.00 for that Battle Pack is a good deal... just for one of those droids if you ask me. There's a severe lack of Separatist droids at retail anyways and this is a great addition to the line.
:P
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Ever notice how the rebel honor guard head looks alot like General Tagg from the DS Briefing set?
When I read that I gabbed both tom make sure they weren't the same head sculpt. They're not. But if they were, I wouldn't have been surpised.
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Just wanted to pass along this easy "fix" for anyone annoyed with the wide leg stances for the Rebel Honor guard and DS Trooper:
Boil and freeze. Did this to both and both look much better, especially the Honor guard.
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I got the McFett the other day and must say he's pretty cool! I'm surprised at how much articulation the gave him. I figured it'd be about the same as McStormie... Too bad Hasbro didn't do a little resculpting on him instead of just repacking him.
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I wish I could just walk into any given store and find the figures I'm looking for...
I'm quite excited about the McFett and DST.
And honestly, the Han Solo is pretty cool...
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I found some of this wave at TRU this morning. I gotta say something about that Luke. He's pale as a ghost and it looks like they put a poorly painted brown bowl on his head. At least the couple of examples that I saw.
The rest of what I saw looked pretty good.
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I found some of this wave at TRU this morning. I gotta say something about that Luke. He's pale as a ghost and it looks like they put a poorly painted brown bowl on his head. At least the couple of examples that I saw.
The rest of what I saw looked pretty good.
I'll agree with the Luke statement... poorly painted hair... >:(
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What's with the DS Trooper. His helmet is so big! He looks like Dark Helmet.
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What's with the DS Trooper. His helmet is so big! He looks like Dark Helmet.
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/6/60/Dark_Helmet_angry.jpg)
I see your helmet is as big as mine. Lets see how well you handle it.
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By the way, when are we going to get Spaceballs figures? I want ones just like Dark Helmet was playing with.
(http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/spaceballs_large_13.jpg)
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I thought there was supposed to be a Spaceballs 2 in the works? But have not heard anything more about it. Or maybe I was dreaming that? Anyway, if they were to make a sequel or whatever Brooks had planned for that it would be our best time to get Spaceballs figures. Yes, a Dark Helmet figure would be great.
Well now I have to start looking for wave 2 eh? Geez, I still don't have a ParaTrooper yet, sigh.
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A cartoon show is planned for G4 TV sometime this year or next year.
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An odd bit of info for anyone who cares, but in looking at some of the sculpting details on the DS Trooper, I discoverd that the "Skirt" is a modified version of Moff Jerjerrods.
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The local TRU put out two cases of these yesterday; picked up one of each, plus an extra Fett for a friend of mine. I have to say that I'm actually pretty happy with the wave as a whole, but I'm disappointed in the quality of the plastic used on the Boba Fett. It seems as if the entire figure uses the cheap "rubber" plastic and, maybe because of this, the upper and lower torso pieces are way too flexible. In fact, the upper torso on mine comes off far too easily, causing the little hidden belly blaster door to fall right out. I tried putting a bit of super glue in the upper slot and reassembled it, but it's still wobbly due to the belt being a separate piece.
Is anyone else having trouble with their Fetts in this manner, or did I just get a ****** one?
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From what I've seen on the RS Photo Archive, it looks like the figure was designed to fall apart like that... :-\
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The local TRU put out two cases of these yesterday; picked up one of each, plus an extra Fett for a friend of mine. I have to say that I'm actually pretty happy with the wave as a whole, but I'm disappointed in the quality of the plastic used on the Boba Fett. It seems as if the entire figure uses the cheap "rubber" plastic and, maybe because of this, the upper and lower torso pieces are way too flexible. In fact, the upper torso on mine comes off far too easily, causing the little hidden belly blaster door to fall right out. I tried putting a bit of super glue in the upper slot and reassembled it, but it's still wobbly due to the belt being a separate piece.
Is anyone else having trouble with their Fetts in this manner, or did I just get a ****** one?
You're not the only one. Mine came apart just taking out of the packaging. Though I don't know how they could've made the peg any thicker with that belly gun there. Ans taking it apart seems to be the easier way to open the door without chipping or gouging the plastic in anyway. It's a great figure and was really surprised that the range finder actully worked, though I'd pull it out of the helmet and reinsert first before trying to move it up and down. Almost ripped mine.
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By the way, when are we going to get Spaceballs figures? I want ones just like Dark Helmet was playing with.
(http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/spaceballs_large_13.jpg)
I'd buy them too. ;D
:P
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Noticed another flaw with the DS Trooper. I boiled and froze the legs to a closer stance and found that the upper legs are different lengths.
Also, the chinstrap on my honor guard broke. :(
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The more pictures I see of the DS Trooper, the more disappointing he seems to be. He towers over everyone and the huge knobby knees are just bizarre.
(http://www.jedidefender.com/jwall/pics/TACwave2.jpg)
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The paint app on Luke's hair in the picture is the best I've seen, though. (compared to the figures on the pegs!)
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DST's height is starting to bother me some too... WTF is up with that? ??? Did they not compare him to any other figure when designing/sculpting him? Yeesh...
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After having a couple of the DS Troopers for about a week or so now. I finally got around to trying to see what other heads fit the peg. So far all I've got is Moff JJ, perfect fit, if you repaint the hat black he looks like the guy in ROTJ; "Inform the Commander that Lord Vader's shuttle has arrived." Also the white Endor troopers head fits, a little tight, but it still goes on and off good and he kinda looks like the old guy on the back of the cardback. Now I'd assume of course that the black endor trooper would fit as well but have yet to dig him out. Thing I noticed on the cardback is that the uniform should have the little pocket for the the rank cylinder things, that's where the cord for the earphones go. As for the boots, how accurate to film they are I don't know but why let it bug since they looks exactly like Obi pilot and nobody seemed to complain about how he looked. Or is it just the film accuracy?
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DST's height is starting to bother me some too... WTF is up with that? ??? Did they not compare him to any other figure when designing/sculpting him? Yeesh...
Height is a big problem with lots of figures. As poorly scaled the height of the DST is, Grievous has never been sculpted correctly, Mace rarely, Vader almost never except for Evolutions, Chewie rarely or never etc.
It's just real sloppy Jesse, and so easily preventable. It just screams "I don't care" when they mess up so badly. Especially with the price of these figures.
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The height of the DST doesn't really bother me. He's taller than Luke, but Luke isn't supposed to be all that tall anyway. I think the helmet itself also exagerates the DST overall height.
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The DST's boots should be shorter. In fact, his legs should look just like Bigg's right leg in that above photo.
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The height of the DST doesn't really bother me. He's taller than Luke, but Luke isn't supposed to be all that tall anyway. I think the helmet itself also exagerates the DST overall height.
I dunno Jay, look at his chin compared to Biggs... And Biggs, remember, is on an oversized body... That's not good. :-\
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The height of the DST doesn't really bother me. He's taller than Luke, but Luke isn't supposed to be all that tall anyway. I think the helmet itself also exagerates the DST overall height.
I dunno Jay, look at his chin compared to Biggs... And Biggs, remember, is on an oversized body... That's not good. :-\
True, the DST head looks to be tilted back a bit though.
And the more I look at it, I think that photo from RS above is a composite, so scaling from figure to figure might be off some. note the weird shadows cast from the insole on some of the boots.
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here you guys are compalining about the figures....atleast they are availvable to you! and hey they all look good..so ..far...from the opics i have seen :-\
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here you guys are compalining about the figures....atleast they are availvable to you! and hey they all look good..so ..far...from the opics i have seen :-\
Well, when you see them in person you'll appreciate our conversation then.
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That's not much of an argument as to why the DST may (or may not) suck... And contrary to popular belief, the U.S. isn't a vast field of every action figure you want, when you want. I haven't seen one figure from Wave 2 in my area and as I recall Wave 1 was up in Canada long before I saw them... Sooooooooo, yeah, that DST may be sucking. I don't have him to say, but that picture (if it's not as Jay says, I'm not a photo expert but I know he has an eye for that stuff) really turns me somewhat on the DST.
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I did some comparison shots with other decent sculpt Imperial Troops and he doesn't come across as being that much taller. But compared to Luke from Wave 2 he definitely towers above him.
(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tac/13/lf14.jpg)
(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tac/13/lf15.jpg)
(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tac/13/lf16.jpg)
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Not to mention the fact that the DS Trooper towers over the Votc Stormtrooper as well.
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Wow all those Imperials in black do look really cool standing with each other. With the upcoming Legends line it's really disappointing that Hasbro wouldn't upgrade slightly the Imperial officer by giving him the legs of either the DSG or TIE pilot, or give him angle cut arms so he could at least put his arms down.
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After having a couple of the DS Troopers for about a week or so now. I finally got around to trying to see what other heads fit the peg. So far all I've got is Moff JJ, perfect fit, if you repaint the hat black he looks like the guy in ROTJ; "Inform the Commander that Lord Vader's shuttle has arrived." Also the white Endor troopers head fits, a little tight, but it still goes on and off good and he kinda looks like the old guy on the back of the cardback. Now I'd assume of course that the black endor trooper would fit as well but have yet to dig him out. Thing I noticed on the cardback is that the uniform should have the little pocket for the the rank cylinder things, that's where the cord for the earphones go. As for the boots, how accurate to film they are I don't know but why let it bug since they looks exactly like Obi pilot and nobody seemed to complain about how he looked. Or is it just the film accuracy?
Sounds like I need a few more Moffs...to make some Death Squad Commanders!
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I got the DST yesterday. Thoughts on it since I've had it in hand?
POSTIIVES
-Overall good sculpt. This is probably the first truly posable Imperial in a black tunic that we've gotten. It looks much cleaner than the Imperial Officers in the black jumpsuits.
-Head sculpt. Pretty cool. Definitely not too generic.
-Helmet. Well done and stays on easily. The chin strap keeps the helmet stable.
-Holster. Functional holsters really do add to a figure in a good way.
-Elbow joints. The ball joints in this figure's elbows function well and they're unobtrusive.
NEGATIVES
-Too tall. He's towering over other Imperials. And mind you that this figure's legs are spread pretty wide. Bring the legs together and he's that much taller.
-Shoulder joints are too blocky. The articulation wasn't well camoflaged here. So the ball joint winds up making this trooper look like he's got shoulder pads on.
-Knees are knobby/not straight enough. Again, the ball joint is a cool feature but it's not well hidden. Also, the lower right leg is canted out in a way that doesn't look natural. It seems like the joint wasn't properly aligned in the knee.
-Tunic skirt should be split on the sides. But alas it isn't. That limits the overall posability of the figure.
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Jay, that comparison shot eases some of my fears, especially as it dulls the sheen on the costume... The height thing looks substantially less distracting. At least it looks less distracting than Vander's height is to me. Cool shot with the other black suited impy's. Curious how he stacks against a stormtrooper like was noted, but they should be about the height of the Imp. Officer figure so I have a vague idea about that regardless.
Thanks man, I appreciate that. The ball joiints look really a lot better in your photo too.
The knees don't bother me because they really do (when you think about the costume's look) appear like the bunched up fabric at the top of the boots, as they should in a way. The shoulders don't match the squared look of the Imperial costume but I think that's what Hasbro was attempting... Trying to hide the ball/socket in the "sharp" angle of broad shouldered jacket the Imperials wear. Tough (impossible?) to do with a ball/socket joint I guess but I see the attempt.
The elbows look fine... The height's only slightly distracting too, so it's improving to me, again...
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Still no sign of these locally, although I got a few (Han, Luke, Biggs) via HTS earlier this week. I got a chance to put them into the display, and its amazing how much the Ceremonial Luke has changed from POTF2 to now. Its like two different characters, which I suppose is often the case with the buff figures from that time period. Although this new Luke isn't exactly perfect (the paleness/head bother me a bit), it sure is a far cry from the older one.
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Man, I picked the wrong year to quit online ordering and try 'traditional' means.
I haven't seen a trace of this wave...or anything outside of R2, Mace and Obi Wan for that matter.
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Ruiner, I'm in the same boat except that I found one lone Rebel Honor Guard and Han at a semi-local Target last week. Even though it seems that everybody's grandma has this wave, it's hardly out in force yet, not even appearing at Wal-Marts as far as I know.
Those pics are terrific! I love me some articulation, but I can't help noticing the more natural sculpting of the POTJ trooper at the neck, elbow, and pants/boot threshold in the comparison pic. Still, altering poses in a group shot is better than perfect pant wrinkles I guess.
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There haven't been any signs of Wave 2 here yet either, so hopefully more stock is on the way everywhere. Heck, our WM hasn't even gotten any Wave 1 in, they're still full of Enboo stuff from TSC.
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I think that photo from RS above is a composite, so scaling from figure to figure might be off some...
I wish.
That's his actual height and scale.
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There haven't been any signs of Wave 2 here yet either, so hopefully more stock is on the way everywhere. Heck, our WM hasn't even gotten any Wave 1 in, they're still full of Enboo stuff from TSC.
Exact same situation here, except I've got Greatest Battles instead of Endboo. Looking forward to this wave though.
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I wish.
That's his actual height and scale.
Yep, that's why I did my own comparison. He is taller, but looks great with others of his kind.
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I don't have these either, but they've hit several stores in my area in sporadic numbers. And they have hit at Wal-Mart around Pittsburgh but only a case here, a case there... Same with TRU (though they seemed to pop up in more than one case at a time, but got cleaned out right away), and Target has been a case here and a case there...
I've not seen a single figure though from this wave. I just know what the locals are finding. Target, WM, and TRU all 3 have gotten these in around me though, but in very short quantities.
All in good time though. I can't speak for you guys but we're still loaded with Saga at some stores. There's a Boussh Leia army at my one WM that fills all 10 pegs.
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Finally found something from this wave this morning... went on a 3 hour run, came back with a lone DST.
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Well I opened him up finally - I know he's not perfect, and the knees are a little ridiculous - but I really really like this figure. I'm going to try to pick up 15 or 20 of them at least.
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Check out this great pic showing how many Rebel Honor Guards there were:
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pe1d058a59d4fa536ac5581e7d4623ce7/e9d20237.jpg)
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Check out this great pic showing how many Rebel Honor Guards there were:
Looks like about 10? 5 and 5 on either side of the staircase up top and everyone else down below looks like RFTs.
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wow i didnt even know there was that many in the movie. never even noticed that shot watching the movie :S
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Check out this great pic showing how many Rebel Honor Guards there were:
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pe1d058a59d4fa536ac5581e7d4623ce7/e9d20237.jpg)
Check out the guys in the lower frame with the ball caps. Looks like Honor guard outfits. All one needs to do is pick up some Joes with ball caps and ya have some new customs to make.
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Didn't have time to check it out the movie, but aren't there guards by the door as the trio comes in, too?
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Didn't have time to check it out the movie, but aren't there guards by the door as the trio comes in, too?
Yes indeed. That's where the image on the cardback comes from.
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Yep, the guys behind the trenchcoat generals have a similar if not identical outfit with the Rebel Honor Guards, except they wear caps. And there were RHG at the entrance to the temple as well.
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p2dc98e75e4a0b91402223f57b10899eb/e9cfa122.jpg)
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pcd0c314106c995081623329725ecd47a/e9cfa11c.jpg)
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Cool! I guess I need 12...
I saw this figure in person about a week ago...hes better than I first expected. I passed because I figured I'll see him again. He is better than the DST by far, I will get quite a few because of this.
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Yep, the guys behind the trenchcoat generals have a similar if not identical outfit with the Rebel Honor Guards, except they wear caps. And there were RHG at the entrance to the temple as well.
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p2dc98e75e4a0b91402223f57b10899eb/e9cfa122.jpg)
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pcd0c314106c995081623329725ecd47a/e9cfa11c.jpg)
The two capped men behind the generals have actually uniqe uniforms and if you look closely you can see the substantial differences. The chap on the left there has an ascot, anda much more tailored costume on... I believe his uniform features noticeable buttons, and his cap's brim might be a little shorter...
The chap on the right has a less tailored uniform, and his ilk can be seen standing ahead of Fleet Troopers in some areas. I also have noted some color differences but they're fairly unnoticeable.
You can see in the long shot how the brims on the hats between the two uni styles vary a noticeable bit. There are also "logos" centered on some of the hats (for the untailored uniform), similar to those of the human crewmen aboard Home One... I have never been able to clearly identify the shape/design of the logo, and it's up in the air if the logo denotes the regiment/legion these individuals belong to, or their ship/fleet logo perhaps... ship/fleet logos are in the X-Wing games but they're much more akin to aquatic shapes and seem very Mon Calamari-ish in look.
I've always felt that, like the Empire, the uniform style may as much an indicator of rank/station as the various Imperial uniforms we see that don't show visible rank indication on them.
On the two uniforms you'll note the collars, belts, cut/style, and hats are distinctly different between the two though, and also the color is pretty clearly lighter on the "tailored" uniform whereas the untailored uniform is more a dark brown or greenish color.
The Rebel Honor Guard more closely matches the less tailored costume in color and uniform cut, however I am not home to dig through all my photos and books to compare either to see if the Honor Guards wear yet another unique style uniform.
Add to this then the unique "tech" uniforms (there are 2 distinct styles, one I have come to assume as the "chief" or officer in charge of the techs/mechanics and maintenance crews), Dodonna/Antilles uniforms, Fleet Trooper uniforms, and of course the Pilots, and that's a lot of variety really, but still a distinctly "uniform" culture indicating a large structured military body, which contradicts most EU interpretation of the Rebel Alliance save for source material, games and such.
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I noticed the entire 2nd wave is currently in stock at HTS.com. The McQuarrie Fett doesn't seem to show up on the "30th Anniversary Collection" page, but if you search for him he is shown as in stock as well.
EDIT: Sorry, Fett looks to be gone now.
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As is the Death Star Trooper.
Man, I can't catch a break.
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McBoba and McStormie were in stock for only a couple of minutes. DST lasted for about an hour, there were at least 60 in stock. The GM's sold out in an hour and a half.
I managed to get 2 mcstormies, 2 mcbobas and 4 dst's
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Yep, the guys behind the trenchcoat generals have a similar if not identical outfit with the Rebel Honor Guards, except they wear caps. And there were RHG at the entrance to the temple as well.
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p2dc98e75e4a0b91402223f57b10899eb/e9cfa122.jpg)
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pcd0c314106c995081623329725ecd47a/e9cfa11c.jpg)
The two capped men behind the generals have actually uniqe uniforms and if you look closely you can see the substantial differences. The chap on the left there has an ascot, anda much more tailored costume on... I believe his uniform features noticeable buttons, and his cap's brim might be a little shorter...
The chap on the right has a less tailored uniform, and his ilk can be seen standing ahead of Fleet Troopers in some areas. I also have noted some color differences but they're fairly unnoticeable.
You can see in the long shot how the brims on the hats between the two uni styles vary a noticeable bit. There are also "logos" centered on some of the hats (for the untailored uniform), similar to those of the human crewmen aboard Home One... I have never been able to clearly identify the shape/design of the logo, and it's up in the air if the logo denotes the regiment/legion these individuals belong to, or their ship/fleet logo perhaps... ship/fleet logos are in the X-Wing games but they're much more akin to aquatic shapes and seem very Mon Calamari-ish in look.
I've always felt that, like the Empire, the uniform style may as much an indicator of rank/station as the various Imperial uniforms we see that don't show visible rank indication on them.
On the two uniforms you'll note the collars, belts, cut/style, and hats are distinctly different between the two though, and also the color is pretty clearly lighter on the "tailored" uniform whereas the untailored uniform is more a dark brown or greenish color.
The Rebel Honor Guard more closely matches the less tailored costume in color and uniform cut, however I am not home to dig through all my photos and books to compare either to see if the Honor Guards wear yet another unique style uniform.
Add to this then the unique "tech" uniforms (there are 2 distinct styles, one I have come to assume as the "chief" or officer in charge of the techs/mechanics and maintenance crews), Dodonna/Antilles uniforms, Fleet Trooper uniforms, and of course the Pilots, and that's a lot of variety really, but still a distinctly "uniform" culture indicating a large structured military body, which contradicts most EU interpretation of the Rebel Alliance save for source material, games and such.
Oh ascot's why'd they have to go out of style :P But seriously maybe variations such as that might have to do with the Alliance laxness of such things. I only say this because they've seemed to be much more of a guerilla force then anything at the time. Sure they're structured but I'm sure argument could be made about the structure of the military mights in the American Civil War hell they were lucky to have socks. :-\ Ever notice though that some of the RFT's helmets don't seem to have the black visor thingy. Look at the pic above on the right side he's the lone RFT at the end and there no sign of it, also it's noticable in the Capture of the Tantive IV. Has it been mentioned if it's a visor/goggle? Always thought it'd be cool to have a Heads Up Display. Also the RHG's closer to Luke have brown pants but seem to have the same uniform otherwise. Either way I'm really happy with the figure and my only complaint really being the leg stance and that the DS Trooper and RHG should've been able to swith heads.
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The thing that works against the "mismatch" argument is that the ascot guys are lined up fairly uniformly, separated by the untailored uniformed guys who are also lined up fairly uniformly, etc... IE: the uniforms do seem to indicate something... what that is, who knows, but it's my assumption it's more along the lines of rank or station than just that some guys could afford a more tailored suit and others couldn't...
I look at them much different than a guerilla force though... To me the base/hidden fortress we see in ANH that's moved to Hoth in ESB is the Rebel's attempt at incursions into the inner rim worlds, and into the heart of the Empire... A guerilla tactic of hitting major space lanes, trade routes, and planets/military instillations that will gain a lot more attention than duking it out in the Outer Rim, the Fronteir Worlds, unexplored space, etc., where I feel things have gone on for most of the war till just before ANH.
The Fleet Trooper helmets are a mix too... Some have what seems like a solid visor too, not just missing it but it's there just all white. Then there's some with visors down, some up... And how do they put the visor down and/or up? Weird. I could see the helmet though transmitting some data tot eh wearer like a simplistic HUD. That's not out of the realm of reality now, much less a technologically advanced fictional galaxy, and the Stormies supposedly have the same deal going to some extent.
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Oh agree with you Jesse, but it does say in the beginning that it's a period of civil war and the rebel alliance has just made their first victory against the Galactic Empire. Piont being it's really just the begining. And that's kind of what I meant by guerrilla force because this being there first victory it seems that they've gotten their asses handed to them in there previous encounters or all they've really done are "hit and fade" tactics disrupting commerce "acquiring" supplies and stealing the plans is really their first attempt at actual WAR. I understand what you mean about pushing their way into the Core worlds, but their previos base being on Dantooine which was to remote and Hoth being an unpopulated system I'm not sure that they're really making a push as it were. And as I kinda pointed out before during our own civil war you know the General's and all around guys in charge were the ones with the fancy clothes while the grunts got whatever they could find. During Empire we see them a lot more organized and seem well supplied. I know this has been a little off subject, but I'll add one more thing was it wise for Leia to be cruising around in a ship that's crewed by people in "Rebel" uniforms? Was Vader saying she's guilty by association?
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By the way, when are we going to get Spaceballs figures? I want ones just like Dark Helmet was playing with.
(http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/spaceballs_large_13.jpg)
I'd buy them too. ;D
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I have been asking for those since i first saw the movie.
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Just a heads up, but McQuarrie Fett (and Stormie), Death Star Trooper, and Rebel Honor Guard are in stock at HTS.com again, for those interested.
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Just a heads up, but McQuarrie Fett (and Stormie), Death Star Trooper, and Rebel Honor Guard are in stock at HTS.com again, for those interested.
Not anymore for the McQuarrie figures.
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Yeah, I see that now. Sorry, I posted as soon as I saw it :). That's the second time this week I've checked their site after I got back from lunch, and things have been in stock. It might be the time to check things out.
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As is the Death Star Trooper.
Man, I can't catch a break.
Again.
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Didn't they just put a 2 per limit on figures? That's still fast.
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I got a chance to open some of these this week, and although it might not be the most exciting character - the Rebel Honor Guard is a pretty nifty figure. Nicely articulated, nice helmet, and a couple of accessories. If we could only get some other Rebel troops in this super-articulated style (Hoth Rebels, Endor Rebels, Fleet Troops, etc.)
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I agree Brian... and it might be the best Rebel Trooper type figure they've ever done.
:P
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Man does Luke's head sculpt suck ass. It looks absolutely NOTHING like Mark Hammill and the paint is awful. I know we've talked about it ad naseum but they cannot nail that head to save their life. Harrison Ford they have down to a tee and Mark they puke out **** figure after figure.
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I got a chance to open some of these this week, and although it might not be the most exciting character - the Rebel Honor Guard is a pretty nifty figure. Nicely articulated, nice helmet, and a couple of accessories. If we could only get some other Rebel troops in this super-articulated style (Hoth Rebels, Endor Rebels, Fleet Troops, etc.)
I agree Brian... and it might be the best Rebel Trooper type figure they've ever done.
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I'm with you, too! I really like this guy...and he's well done. I commented a while back, when pics first appeared, that he was the most boring character I had ever been really excited about. :D It's neat to have background rebel guys from old school Star Wars.
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Man does Luke's head sculpt suck ass. It looks absolutely NOTHING like Mark Hammill and the paint is awful. I know we've talked about it ad naseum but they cannot nail that head to save their life. Harrison Ford they have down to a tee and Mark they puke out **** figure after figure.
Amen to that. I finally got around to opening my Battle of Yavin wave Luke and the paint apps just suck on the head. It's too bad too, because the figure isn't bad at all.
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Man does Luke's head sculpt suck ass. It looks absolutely NOTHING like Mark Hammill and the paint is awful. I know we've talked about it ad naseum but they cannot nail that head to save their life. Harrison Ford they have down to a tee and Mark they puke out **** figure after figure.
Amen to that. I finally got around to opening my Battle of Yavin wave Luke and the paint apps just suck on the head. It's too bad too, because the figure isn't bad at all.
That's my biggest disappointment. The figure body is superb but the head likeness and paint sucks ass :-\
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Having just found and opened these (minus Fett, whadda shock) I'd have to agree about Luke. The Han figure is pretty amazing for likeness and then some yellow headed kid has on Luke's garb.
As another gripe, the arms on Biggs suck: shoulder and wrist on the left arm and bad should articulation at that? Yeesh, every other figure in the wave (haven't seen Fett) has nice shoulders, why should this suck so badly?
I am digging the removeable helmets with straps on the figures, that's a nice touch.
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Biggs I have bought, Im actually content, the arms suck, but when will he really need to do anything 'action'y with them from the movie. He can hold and point a blaster in a few directions and has bendable kness, so I'm cool.
Im getting Luke from a friend of the family in a couple of weeks for graduation, he should be very cool, the head is a concern but the body should totally make up for that. I'll give him this: he's in a whole different league compared to the other two basic Lukes and the VOTC one, so there.
McFett, I refuse to open, he is just so cool in the package!
As for the others, Ill comment on them when I find them, which I cant wait to find, especially that Han.
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Woh! I just figured out that this is my 1000th post! Cool!!! :o
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Quote from: OCB on May 5, 2007, 09:18 AM
Man does Luke's head sculpt suck ass. It looks absolutely NOTHING like Mark Hammill and the paint is awful. I know we've talked about it ad naseum but they cannot nail that head to save their life. Harrison Ford they have down to a tee and Mark they puke out **** figure after figure.
I have to agree, I was really disappointed with Luke's head sculpt/paint when I got a hold of one. Its too bad too, because the body is well articulated, and looks pretty great. Hasbro just hasn't ever been able to nail the Mark Hamill likeness very well. I guess the more recent ROTJ versions are probably the closest, but still not quite right. And wow is he ever pale, you think Luke would have got somewhat of a tan working under those Tatooine suns all day.
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the body is well articulated, and looks pretty great.
I want to know how long before we see Walrusman on this body. It looks like it'll work great for him with a new head, hands and almost no retooling!
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The height would be an issue, so would the shirt underneath, so I'm hoping that's not the case in the future. Those little inaccuracies would annoy me. He wasn't huge by any means but he was noticeably taller than Luke when he shoved him around.
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Man does Luke's head sculpt suck ass. It looks absolutely NOTHING like Mark Hammill
I just can't agree there, OCB. I think the sculpt is MUCH more accurate than the VOTC ANH Luke, or any other ANH Luke I can think of (I know you didn't compare them, I'm just saying). The paint application is pretty bad though, and he's way too pale. But as far as sculpt, I think it's the best ANH Hamill yet.
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McFett, I refuse to open, he is just so cool in the package!
Nah, he's even better out of the package. ;)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/jwall/pics/IMG_3716-McQFett3.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/jwall/pics/IMG_3715-McQFett2.jpg)
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Man does Luke's head sculpt suck ass. It looks absolutely NOTHING like Mark Hammill
I just can't agree there, OCB. I think the sculpt is MUCH more accurate than the VOTC ANH Luke, or any other ANH Luke I can think of (I know you didn't compare them, I'm just saying). The paint application is pretty bad though, and he's way too pale. But as far as sculpt, I think it's the best ANH Hamill yet.
I have to agree with Daigo-Bah. The head sculpt on Luke isn't terrible. But the paint apps make it look bad. I'd really like to see what the customizers can do with this figure just with a new coat of paint on the head.
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NFC is shipping their Wave 2 orders.
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I just got my first taste of Wave 2 figures here tonight... Someone pilferred all Luke, Han, and McFigures that were there, and left 1 of a couple figures and 2 of the Rebel.
I got:
-Biggs... Biggs' name = Biggsest **** of the wave. The Dutch Vander body is hardly "definitive" of any Rebel Pilot figure. It's oversized, underarticulated, and while it's cool to say "Dutch" was just a tall guy, it looks like poodoo with just other heads slapped on it. I pray Hasbro gives us a super articulated pilot body that's better in the near future.
Add to this that the helmet's paintjob is utter shite and it doesn't fit perfectly (not horribly, just not perfectly either), and I just am overall underwhelmed by Biggs. He's basically winding up as nothing more than "fine, that'll do I guess" in my mind. Easily the worst figure of the entire wave and I don't have 3 of them yet in-hand, but know my opinion isn't going anywhere on that one. ;D
-Death Star Trooper (Imp. Naval Trooper/Marine)... The DST is a mixed bag like people have said. I love the articulation, and sculpt be damned, this is how a toy is to be as far as poseability goes so I sacrifice one for the other. That said, there's no reason the articulation SHOULD be this visible. You SHOULD get the best of both worlds... Why? Because you do get it with the Rebel figure, so obviously they can do it and chose not to. For shame on the guy who sculpted this figure is all.
Don't fault the articulation, fault the sculpt. People are saying it's the joints that look bad... They're wrong. It's the sculpt not hiding the joints that looks bad. Point the finger in the right direction is my point, and don't just decry articulation as a blight on toys.
I love the removable helmet and it seems to sit fine... Little low but they sit low on people's heads in the movie so I see no gripe there. It's also a "fixable" issue if you wanted to from what I've read.
I'm pissed at the height... Fixable though, I think. I'm waiting till I get some more, but I'm going to likely chop a few guys at the calves and then drill a hole with a concave piece up into the shin. This'll allow the ball/socket ankle to sit in the shin better while also lessening the height issue so he's maybe normal looking. It'd be nice if he at least was as tall as the giant known as Dutch/Biggs is. :) He actually is taller... You cannot deny that's odd looking guys.
Too bad you didn't get a black kepi hat too like the 12" figure. Anyone else disappointed with that?
-Rebel Honor Guard... This I managed 2 figures of, and I love them. My gripes are fewer, but still kind of important when you look at the figure, and show a lack of effort on Hasbro's part.
First, the helmet's based on, I think, the POTJ Fleet Trooper's helmet with some changes. The nicks/dents seem familiar to me anyway, no? I preferred the less damaged look of Antilles' helmet.
The holster and removable helmet are great though and I dig the headsculpt. It's kind of cool unto itself. Also the pike is a nice RIGID PLASTIC! They can't do a battledroid right? bull****.
Articulation out the whazzoo, a great sculpt that hides every joint, and lots of costume detail. I was disappointed though to see things not painted, such as the costume buttons. If you look at the outfits in the movie, the buttons are a dark brown or black clearly, and if painted they'd help break up the dull grey color of the duds. It seemed like just a sorta lazy effort on paint with this one.
Also hating the leg stance... Fixable, as I've mentioned with the Boil & Freeze technique, however Hasbro trying to "make a figure more dynamic" (as they said they did with Jerjerrod in their Q&A) is really... err, dumb. A wide stance hasn't helped sell Jerjerrod figures, and when you articulate a figure like the guard here, do you really need to give it a ****** stance and negate some of that articulation? Of course not! Let kids/adults pose the toy in dynamic ways instead!
And, both figures (DSG and RHG) needed slits up their "skirt" extension of their tunics for said poseability. Maybe a bigger nuisance than anything mentioned so far actually.
Either way, I actually love the latter two figures... Biggs is just better than his original figure, and is a great, accurate headsculpt by the way. I should note that. I just hate that figure as a base. To be honest I wish they'd used the original Biggs body with maybe modded legs, or wait till they have something better to work with. This is a little disappointing to me. :(
The two troopers rock though and I'm geeked to get more and "fix" some of them. I think I can clean these up substantially and I'm already set to get many MANY of both of them.
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JJ- thought I'd show my boil-and-freeze attempt on the RHG and DST, as well as my DST vintage-style custom. I've used the BAF technique quite a bit lately (thanks for the idea!) but I've found that limbs rebound after a while by perhaps 50%. Does that happen to you guys too? I had the RHG's kness touching when I froze him, but he's back to what you see in the pic (which is fine).
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pc455f1142b1cffa889dc19407e00ec0a/e9a0e6fb.jpg)
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p816df881c8ec5775112027884a35b7ad/e9a0e499.jpg)
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p0f3a21eb0cb9813fccb05846b95bbe7c/e9a0fa21.jpg)
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Wave 2 is fully in stock at hasbrotoyshop.com, including Boba and the army builders.
Go to town.
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Thanks DR, I think I might've gotten my first McBoba and one for my gf's kid too, plus a couple DST's. I hope my order goes through.
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Third time I've missed out!
I had one in my cart, looked for something else, came back and it was gone.
I hate this ****** figure.
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McFett is sold out, everything else is there.
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Figures I go away for one stinking final and it's gone. I even checked last night too... Just my luck lately I guess.
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I honestly don't know if I got mine or not then... I checked out. Dunno if it is coming now though or not.
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I honestly don't know if I got mine or not then... I checked out. Dunno if it is coming now though or not.
As long as you checked out, paid, and got your order number, you got it.
What Ruiner is referring to is having it in your cart, and continuing to shop before he checked out, and it was gone before he paid.
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I just got my first taste of Wave 2 figures here tonight... Someone pilferred all Luke, Han, and McFigures that were there, and left 1 of a couple figures and 2 of the Rebel.
I got:
-Biggs... Biggs' name = Biggsest **** of the wave. The Dutch Vander body is hardly "definitive" of any Rebel Pilot figure. It's oversized, underarticulated, and while it's cool to say "Dutch" was just a tall guy, it looks like poodoo with just other heads slapped on it. I pray Hasbro gives us a super articulated pilot body that's better in the near future.
Add to this that the helmet's paintjob is utter shite and it doesn't fit perfectly (not horribly, just not perfectly either), and I just am overall underwhelmed by Biggs. He's basically winding up as nothing more than "fine, that'll do I guess" in my mind. Easily the worst figure of the entire wave and I don't have 3 of them yet in-hand, but know my opinion isn't going anywhere on that one. ;D
I think youre being kind of mean to Biggs, and this may be one of the rare times where I disagree with JJ, but I think hes moreof an improvement over his POTF2 than DST is over his POTF2. The articulation, wide legs, and huge helmet are just too distracting to make DST awesome. He is good, but not awesome. Biggs is at least somewhere in between.
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I'm with Jesse on the DST's articulation/sculpt gripe. The articulation isn't to blame for the awkwardness of the joints. The blame lies squarely with the sculpt not hiding it better. Hasbro has proved on many occasions they are more than capable of this, so it the articulation really isn't an excuse. Wide legs are also a minor gripe since it is such an easy fix. And the helmet isn't that bad actually. I felt the POTF2 helmet was underscaled and that this one is a bit closer to the actual size. My opinion on the height does differ from yours Jesse. I personally don't mind it since this is a generic figure. It is easier to shorten him than make him taller and it adds some variety to the ranks. Being a taller guy myself, at 6'4" it is nice to see some taller figures that aren't Darth Vader or Wookiees.
Biggs however I also have to mostly agree with Jesse on. The height just doesn't match his character, so he looks a little out of place. I think the headsculpt looks great. I do wish the helmet paint matched better as well. I have yet to open mine so I can't comment on the fit.I differ from Jesse in that I still do prefer this body over the original, preposed arms and height be damned. The sculpt is much better IMO and the color seems to be much closer (not that the color couldn't be fixed on the POTF2 sculpt) I would really like to see the ultimate SA X-Wing pilot sculpt at some point soon, but for now this will be a decent filler for me, decent, not great by any stretch.
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JJ- thought I'd show my boil-and-freeze attempt on the RHG and DST, as well as my DST vintage-style custom. I've used the BAF technique quite a bit lately (thanks for the idea!) but I've found that limbs rebound after a while by perhaps 50%. Does that happen to you guys too? I had the RHG's kness touching when I froze him, but he's back to what you see in the pic (which is fine).
I've been having the same rebounding issues. Anyone know better techniques?
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I tend to, at least attempt to, "over do it" with the boil & freeze, so that when they rebound that little bit, they go to where I wanted them. nothing drastic, just a little bit, but I've found it works.
I B&F'd all my Rep. Commandoes for instance, as I can't get anyone but Scorch to stand. They look great now though, very well stanced, and don't tip easily. It was one of the most complex B&F's ever though as I had to squeeze the legs and at the same time pose the feet. A real pain. I'd say Cody, and his gummy counterpart, were equally frustrating B&F's.
Cody rebounded some but he looks good yet. I'll maybe snap some photos at some point and see if I can show them off here to see what I did.
I will say I use a stand frequently when B&F'ing so that the feet are flat and just as I want them. Make sure you get 'em really boiled up good though, and you freeze them for a while even if it's sorta painful to your hand. Utilize clamps, rubber bands, and other things well too, and act fast. Best advice I can give.
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It looks like McQuarrie Fett is back in stock at HTS - hurry :).
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Finally.
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Missed it again. I had 2 in my cart yesterday and could not get past the "Proceed to Checkout" button....I was on FIOS...so it wasn't my connection. They had 280 when I bought mine, so they weren't out of them yet either.
Must have been all those "Kids" that collect...with credit cards....crashing the site during school hours..couldn't be the collectors...
Pretty Irritating.
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I know it's not wave 2, but the McTrooper is still there as of writing this.
HTS has been helpful to me, but I still largely consider them to be a joke. Sure, it's good that they don't have an absolutely unlimited supply of the figure but why can't they? Oh right, it would affect regular retail market stores. Still, I always chuckle at the notion of them always being out of the cool figures. Even the damn manufacturer can't keep them in stock. I console myself with the thought that they'll have C-3POs in stock until the turn of the next century.
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McTrooper is gone.
The hoopla around these McQuarrie figures is amazing - everybody wants them, from the casual collector to the completist.
I wonder if Hasbro has been taken by surprise...
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McTrooper is gone.
The hoopla around these McQuarrie figures is amazing - everybody wants them, from the casual collector to the completist.
I wonder if Hasbro has been taken by surprise...
Hmmm... make an all new figure, put it in packaging that sets it apart from others in the line, (which seduces scalpers and hoarders) and have 1x or 2x per case?
I doubt they're surprised. :P
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Maybe it's my overwhelming cynicism, but I'd bet they actually are surprised by the demand. It's a subline and to me the packaging isn't all that different in terms of general appearance. Same card shape and graphics; coin is there, figure is there. Cardback is different (on US cards anyway) but that's not so obvious.
It's almost EU in the sense that it's not movie canon, though it is the basis for what we eventually got.
My opinion is that they're as surprised by the demand as anyone.
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Same card shape and graphics; coin is there, figure is there. Cardback is different (on US cards anyway) but that's not so obvious.
True, but I think it's the blue accents that's the attention graber which draws the unscrupulous and collector-types alike. So, I rank these on the same level as last year's UGH and this year's uber-UGH gold coin chases. Hasbro must be cognizant of that...
It's almost EU in the sense that it's not movie canon, though it is the basis for what we eventually got.
Pre-canon... ;D
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I'm not surprised by the demand for them to be honest. Just look how sought after the first version of the McQuarrie Stormie was... the concepts just scream Original Trilogy and have such a vintage feel to them because of the exceptional designs that McQuarrie came up with, and then you also have a lot of people that want them for other reasons like to customize then. I just love these figures, by far my favorite so far this year.
:P
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Finally saw some of this wave at Target... Minus McBoba of course, and surprisingly, the Rebel Ceremonial Guard.
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I received my NFC order today. It's revision 4. ???
Anyone know what's in revision 4? I'm not planning on opening it in hopes of returning it.
EDIT:
Revision 4 is the same as the initial wave 2 case; 2 per case.
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never seen in a store here, but doesn't matter, i don't want a figure of this wave, and the worst figure is luke skywalker i thing, terrible face :o
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Found some more of these today. At KB for 5.00! Anyway, everyone's talking about Luke's wierd head, but what about his odd holster? What's up with that?
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$5 is a good deal. Too bad I have them all already. I should keep an eye on the sole remaining Kay-Bee in my area for the future waves.
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Polished off wave 2 yesterday. My DS Trooper platoon is complete.
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I'm not surprised by the demand for them to be honest. Just look how sought after the first version of the McQuarrie Stormie was... the concepts just scream Original Trilogy and have such a vintage feel to them because of the exceptional designs that McQuarrie came up with, and then you also have a lot of people that want them for other reasons like to customize then. I just love these figures, by far my favorite so far this year.
:P
On a completely unrelated note, CHEWIE, could you PM me a full size version of your avatar? Its mesmerizing...
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On a completely unrelated note, CHEWIE, could you PM me a full size version of your avatar? Its mesmerizing...
Yes, that avatar seems vaguely familiar... is it from some music video??
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Fett is back in stock
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Fett is back in stock
In my best Kevin Spacey from 'The Usual Suspects' "And like that... he's gone....'
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Got my order today and McFett's pretty cool... Though one of my DST's hands was pretty well broken in the package. Debating whether I should gripe or just use it for customs... Kinda would like him as he was, but maybe this is the figure to test my "shortening" experiment on instead.
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Not sure if you have see the differences between the Canadian & US packing that was posted on Snowtroopers.
(http://pages.hosting.domaindirect.com/weestudios.com/stuff/fettspf.jpg)
(http://pages.hosting.domaindirect.com/weestudios.com/stuff/fettspb.jpg)
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That is actually VERY cool. I might have to seek out the Canadian versions.
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Woah, that's interesting. Yeah, that style looks pretty cool. Is that the card design for all of the 30AC stuff up there, or just the McQuarrie figures? I certainly wouldn't want to recollect the whole line like that, but I do like to nab the occasional Canadian version from time to time, just for the aesthetic hell of it. Might have to think about it...
Also, am I blind, or is the figure's name not even on the front of the card? That kinda stinks if not, but I suppose that'd just mean they're all generic (by wave).
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every TAC figure has that packaging. gets boring after a while.
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every TAC figure has that packaging. gets boring after a while.
Too bad you're into collecting cardboard. :P
Matt, no, your rapidly aging eyes are not deceiving you, there's no real indication of the figure's name anywhere.
These figures have been a tough find up here, especially the McQ stuff, so not dissimilar to the US situation, other than that we tend to have less stores that have less stock overall. I wasn't aware the McQ on Canadian cardback had been found yet. I know they're coming as Legends is getting them in though.
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they get boring because when ever you go to a store all the figures on the pegs have the same packaging. but in the states each figure has its own unique one. makes some fgures stand out. and the McQ just look better in the US packaging.
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It would be cool to pick up one, but i much prefer the specific artwork of the American cards.
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Matt, no, your rapidly aging eyes are not deceiving you, there's no real indication of the figure's name anywhere [on Canadian cards].
I think the name of the figure is present on the side of the bubble insert, as shown in this pic (through my masterful knowledge of Photoshop ::)).
(http://www.jedidefender.com/jwall/pics/fettspf2.jpg)
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my sister saw some of wave two yesterday. shes gonna try her luck and go back to buy them for me. now all i can do is hope.
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I received my 'white' Boba Fett from HTS and while the figure is great, I have to know why his torso is designed the way it is.
If you try to mess with him at all, he falls apart, similar to a figure made of legos!
His upper body, belt and lower legs all come apart...very frustrating for younger collectors or boys who simply want to play with figures.
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It would be cool to pick up one, but i much prefer the specific artwork of the American cards.
You and most Canadians too it would seem, based on conversations over on snowtroopers.ca. I'm not much into collecting cardboard, so it doesn't matter much to me :-*