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Collecting => Customs Community and Group Projects => Customs => Celebration IV - Ultimate Group Project => Topic started by: Phrubruh on August 11, 2006, 09:49 AM
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Here is where we can discuss cost and look for ways to pay for this project. We will be talking about sponsorship issues and ways to raise funds and who will manage these things.
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Chewie and I were just kinda chatting a bit last night. I came up with an idea for a sponsor that would help greatly in parts, and possibly cash flow.
Goodtogocutoms.com would be a great company to have on our side, and I'm sure they'd agree to help. There would be plenty of publicity for them and some very nice parts for use for all of us. Plus, I'm sure that there are plenty of people on GTG/Comando that have really checked this thing out. On those two sites there is alot of talent that we could use. :P
Just a thought
Adam
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As for GTG, I'm on it.. I'm actually gonna start casting for them an I'll be a bigger part of "the team" I talked to Bekker about it a couple times and he really like the idea, both a way to advertise at C4 for and also helping us get stuff casted.. Now, I dont know about them sponcering money wise, we'd have to talk about that, but casted materials and stuff like that could really help in the long run...
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If you'd like a web site devoted to this project in all it's glory, ('cuz, man, it deserves it!), I co-own a small web hosting company - which we've devoted to all things that some might consider... 'dorky.' (We're also going to be a gaming store ;))
I'd be happy to donate hosting (& perhaps even design) for a site like that, in return for the chance that it might draw in more business from folks that need cheap, but better-than-geocites web space. (Currently, we're hosting Findswoman's web site - so we have an in-house reference if you need one.)
Just let us know,
Tom - from the JackPoint (theJackPoint.com (http://theJackPoint.com) & t-j-p.net (http://t-j-p.net)) ;D
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We definately got to talk Tom. I'm extreemly interested in your offer. Especially the part of the web design. With the new baby coming, I don't have any time to design it myself.
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I went to GenCon's web site to see if the booth prices were up yet for C4. They are not. However, I did check out the booth prices for GenCon '06 in Anaheim, CA. Early registration for a 10x10 booth is a little over $800 while a 10x20 booth is about $2000. Now I don't know if C4 will be more expensive or about the same but it does give up an idea of how much we need to scrape together in the coming months.
I've had some ideas of a paypal donation button being added to a new UGP web site. We might also need to charge a small amount per entry. For example maybe $3-4 per figure. Something more for ships or buildings. These are just amounts off the top of my head. Any other ideas for fun raisers are greatly appreciated.
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I say we go all out with the 60x60 lol.. J/K... I can see C4 prices being inline with these, if not more... hopefully, not, but you never know...
I think we would have to get the 10x20, or something around that area.. if we got anything smaller, well... we might as well take out the "Ultimate" lol...but to be honest, I think we'll need the bigger one not only for a bigger Dio, but for the actual people involved too(set up, sitting around durring the con, stuff like that).
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At C3 there were usually 3-5 of us cramped up in the 10x10 FFURG booth, it was pretty tight and we didin't have any sort of diorama. Taking that into consideration I think the 10X20 would be our best bet. Unless of course we have a millionaire in our midst who'd be willing to spring the $32,000 for the 60x60. :P
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Hmmm, If it was possible to buy one 10x10, and 1 10x20, we could place the dio in the 10x20, and combine the 2 together, that way, You(we if I can go) get a place to stand, and we wont be cramped with the dio aswell. Can we do that, order 2 booths next too each other??If so I'd say thats even better
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But then we need even more money. Also, I'm not sure if It's possible to assure they're right next to each other.
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Just got a response from gencon about booth space applications.
They are in the final approval process so they should be ready by the
end of September if not earlier. Feel free to check in with me or check
the website starting on the 20th. Thanks!
Megan Culver
Marketing & Exhibits Manager
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What do you think to running a series of ebay auctions where the proceeds go to c4 booth space money? We could auction off custom figures or dioramas and have them advertised on the main page.
Another idea would be a silent auction done outside ebay in our forums. Basically, people would send me their bid and I'll post the highest bid so far in a message.
Any other fund raising ideas beyond begging sponsers to help and selling girl scout cookies?
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I'm not sure what your exact situation is Paul but FFURG was able to get space from Lucasfilm without paying... So were numbers of collector groups like PSWCS and of course Niub Niub from GH.com had his Death Star project going full swing with a HUGE section for just himself.
I'm not sure if you've tried contacting LFL yet, it's a little early (but not much), but I'd think they'd be open to you being one of the fan groups they'd WANT at the show.
I know our space (FFURG) was beyond tiny and we really needed lots more... We did more traffic daily than most of the fan groups pulled in. Anyway though I'm not sure if you have tried contacting them but getting in touch with someone involved with CIV would be a good idea. You may not have to pay for space out of your own pocket then, especially since this isn't anything benefiting any of you financially... I'd think they'd be happy to have you guys aboard.
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What's wrong with girl scout cookies?
Anyway, i think getting in touch with LFL might be a good idea, like Jesse said, hopefully they'll be generous.
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I jokingly suggested last night at the chat about contacting George; it seems though that this might really be a possibility! As long as it doesn't appear to be dealer space, we might get comped!
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Exactly how does one get in touch with the almighty himself anyway? I say go for it if we can.
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LISTEN CAREFULLY CAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY!
Niub had sponsorship with lucasarts for C3 and possibly C2. I worked with him at C3. I have not spoken to him in a while but if you read September 6's news at his site
www.niubniubsuniverse.com ,
you might find a way to contact him and find out how he got sponsorship. I know that one thing it involed was the making of a mini diorama of the layout of the booth. I'm kind of buisy these days but if you have a hard time contacting him, let me know and I will see what I can do ( I will speak to him in Canadian)
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PLEASE CHECK OUT RAISING FUNDS THREAD FOR AN THOUGHT!!!
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I was thinking something similiar to what Jesse suggested. I remember at C3 that there was a separate hall for the "fan stuff" and I would have been surprised if it were the same costs as the booths in the main showrooms. I was going to suggest talking with someone from FFURG to see what their booth cost as I remember going there (in fact it was my first customizing experience ;D).
Having said all that, even if we get a booth for very low cost, I still think a fundraiser is a good idea. There are definitely material and shipping costs that we are going to rack up for this project. Although I've got no problems donating some time, materials, figures etc, its still going to be expensive.
One suggestion on the auction route... what if we put together a monthly group project to make a custom to auction off. Obviously, it may not be customs we would typically make or that we might get burnt out on (clones for many). If we get 10 people to participate we could raise $250-$500 on eBay. We'd probably want to stagger the auctions so that the market wasn't flooded all at once either. Anyway, just a thought.
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Any thoughts on my idea?
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We were in touch with LFL's representative handling the C3 organization and such... Look into the event at SW.com and see if there's the links you need there. There should be something helpful around there.
Paying for a dealer booth for something that is ADDING to the experience and not for profit though is definitely not in your group's best interest. I'm not personally making it to C4 due to living in PA (I drove to C3 since it was close enough, I can't justify all the added costs for C4 though) but if you want to contact the other staffers from FFURG to talk about things they're at the site of course or CorranHorn here at JD is also a great person to get in touch with since he's one of the head folks there. At the very least there may be some good advice for you. I'll make sure and drop a note to Jason when I get a chance as well.
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What a great idea! Does JD have any plans on having a booth at C4? Since this project discussion is based here it would be a natural to have the project as part of it. The FFURG booth would also be a fantastic place to display this since FFURG is the place that I learned most of my customizing skills and consider it to be our public knowledge base for customizing techniques. I just wish I could get more discussions going on over at FFURG forums about this. Basically I'm willing to hitch a ride with whatever web site that will give us space at C4. (except RS ;))
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How about the new Magnetic stand company?
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We could stand up all the figures using them. Are those stands any good? I've never used them.
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Standing up the figures may be a really good idea. However, depending on their size we may want/need to 'hide' them in the underbrush or whatver ground texture we establish.
This approach may also require us to use a metal base to set up the whole diorama.
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Of course if we did get them to fund it, they would probably want their product to be visible on the diorama.
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Good point :)
I still think its a good idea worth exploring. Nothing can screw a diorama up more than figures falling all over the place!
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Maybe we can get the stands donated.
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Basically I'm willing to hitch a ride with whatever web site that will give us space at C4. (except RS ;))
AMEN Brother! Personally I would be embarrassed to say I was sffiliated with RS. :P
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Of course if we did get them to fund it, they would probably want their product to be visible on the diorama.
At the very least they could display a placard and/or have business cards on hand, in addition to loaning us stands.
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Another idea, are there certain companies or suppliers that our customized routinely buy from? Perhaps an art supply or model supply company might be willing to sponsor.
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Does JD have any plans on having a booth at C4? S
I always thought it'd be good for JD to have a booth at certain conventions with a computer that's connected to the site for people to pa-ruse. I know it's usually cost prohibitive, but doesn't exposure usually equal increased revenue if membership increases?
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What about the fixit people? Or the Sculpey People, or The testors or Tamiya people.
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I dont really know how it was done, but back hmmm.. like 5 years ago, I was part of The Chicago Force, and one of our members got in touch with Steve Sansweet-at the SW site, it says he's "He is currently Director of Content Management and in charge of fan relations in Lucasfilm's Marketing Department."
We were supposed to have dinner with him and kinda of a meet and greet.. but that fell through.. I did have a nice chat with him outside the hotel and got a picure with him...
http://www.lucasfilm.com/inside/faq/
Maybe sending a letter here to Steve might get through, but I'd still try and talk to those people Jesse mentioned, Im sure even when Gencon releases the info, they'll beable to point you in the right direction.
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Are we allowed to make sales? Perhaps some customs or repo-accessories (blaster) can be cranked out and sold to help cover cost?
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But if we did that, we'd become a vendor and when that happens, our fan position is closed, meaning we get no free space if thats possible. If free space isn't possible, we could try doing that.
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Are we allowed to make sales? Perhaps some customs or repo-accessories (blaster) can be cranked out and sold to help cover cost?
It's possible. NiubNiub put his Death Star Docking bay up for silent auction at Celebration 3. I think the winning bidder ended up being a fraud so he never did get paid though.
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As long as it doesn't involve buring a dead hooker, anyway to raise money is greatly appreciated.
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Oh well, there goes all of my ideas.
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One way we could help fund the UGP is to auction off our custom star wars toys. Are there any volunteers out there willing to put up the first custom?
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WHat if we put up parts of the Project?
All of the pieces that arent gonna be returned. ( So you would need to decide when you are done weither you want it back or not.)
We can photograph them as they get done, and aution them off, with the understanding
that shipment will be made after C4?
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as a matter of fact, I've already got an idea. Al I need to find now is another ewok. ;D
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WHat if we put up parts of the Project?
All of the pieces that arent gonna be returned. ( So you would need to decide when you are done weither you want it back or not.)
We can photograph them as they get done, and aution them off, with the understanding
that shipment will be made after C4?
Sure if the buyer is willing to wait that long. It might be kind of neat to have a piece of the diorama after its been in news print.
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I just got my Exhibitor application for C4. This is NOT the fan booth information but rather for vendors and other exhibitors. Anyway, looking at the price schedule we see this:
10x10 standard $1320
10x10 corner $1550
10x20 end cap $3300
20x20 4booth penninsula $6050
This goes all the way up to a 35 booth island 50x60 for $53,900. These are all early priority prices due by Dec 15th.
I really hope we get a fan booth. :-\
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I hate to say it, but if we don't get a fan booth, I don't know that this will get done. I'm going to have enough trouble paying for myself to go, plus making my sections that I doubt I'll have any left over for donations. I have a feeling most of you are in a similar situation too.
And outside of the little customizing circle I wouldn't think there are many people who would want to contribute anything.
So unless anyone here is very wealthy and has been holding back on us, I don't think this is going to be possible unless we can get a fan booth.
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Looking thru the paper work, we don't fall into any of the exhibitor or vendor catagories. We arn't selling anything. We are just there to help make the celebration even better by showing off our hobby. We're pretty much like a gaming guild or fan boy group. I have no doubts we will get a booth.
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I know a lot of us are dedicating a lot of time and money to help make this UGP happen. It has accured to me that there may be a lot of extra cost incurred by the guys on the ground setting this project up. I imagine there may be extra materials and supplies needed to help meld all of our creations into one cohessive dio.
I'm not asking that you give what you can't but if you can spare some extra funds to help Phruby and the guys on the ground offset some of their financial burdens, I'm sure it will be much appreciated. Even a couple of bucks to pay for lunch for the guys manning the booth would be a nice gesture.
If the group leaders do not mind, I'd like to have an Order66customs auction next week to help sponsor the event.
Fritzkrieg
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Fritz I went ahead and merged this and the other two sponsor threads we had here.
I personally wouldn't have any problems with your Order66 auction. We greatly appreciate your previous donation too. :)
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Well said Fritz. If we can throw together some more funds for the guys on site we definitely should.
I'm going through some financial issues right now, so I don't know what I could actually send in terms of money. As is, the project is costing me quite a bit with all I'm making and sending... Plus I just had to pay over 2 grand in taxes, and close to that on my basement getting finished, and have a lot of expenses coming with the baby that's due in June. I'm also going to go a week without pay in June and at this point I'm not sure how I'm going to even pay my June bills without selling off some more customs on ebay.
If I can donate any money though I will.
As for an Order 66 custom for it, that would be awesome of you Fritz... heck, if anyone wants to throw some stuff on ebay for the UGP, I am in 100% support of that.
Potentially we could create an account on ebay just for a fundraiser too.
:P
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That's real swell of you guys!
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As promissed here is the Custom Order66Customs will be auctioning off to help sponsor the UGP.
The final sale price of this figure will be donated to the UGP.
LMK what you think. Your feedback is always appreciated.
Sandtrooper Corpse
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Sandycorpse.jpg)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Sandycorpse2.jpg)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Sandycorpse3.jpg) (http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Sandycorpse4.jpg)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Sandycorpse5.jpg) (http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Sandycorpse6.jpg)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Sandycorpse7.jpg) (http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Sandycorpse8.jpg)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Sandycorpse9.jpg) (http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Sandycorpseheadshot.jpg)
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Order66Customs/Order66Logo.jpg)
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Fritz - that is really cool. It is one of your best dead-ite customs to date I think.
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Fantastic! The bids are over $30 now. :)
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I spotlighted this at Yak last night, hope it will help.
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/042707ugp.jpg)
Thanks again Fritz for all your work and contributions!
:P