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Title: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: CHEWIE on December 20, 2005, 02:31 PM
With what I am seeing so far in the SAGA 2006 figures, we are in for a treat. They look outstanding. 

My biggest concern though is the amount of space that retailers will dedicate to their Star Wars sections.

Predictions?  Anyone seen any 2006 planograms?

 :P
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 20, 2005, 06:53 PM
A TRU I was in had 16 pegs for TSC.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Darth Broem on December 20, 2005, 06:56 PM
Well since SW are still selling well I don't think it should be much of a problem at the beginning of this year.  Once the pegwarmers start warming up though then I can see the stores downsizing the pegs.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Diddly on December 20, 2005, 09:43 PM
I'd say about 16, what Jesse said. That was about what it was for Saga 02-04, 8 pegs going up and down for two rows. Plus all the shelf/vehicle space.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: P-Siddy on December 20, 2005, 10:54 PM
The TRU I work at has considerable condensed their 3 3/4" section  :'(  ???
Hopefully that's just because we are low on figures at the moment and they are trying to cram as much other SW stuff to sell for Christmas.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 21, 2005, 10:49 AM
I think the space will be half of what it is now, with only a quarter of the space for basic figures used since Choppers and Transformers will be taking up space.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 21, 2005, 11:02 AM
While one of my local Wm's still hasn't changed their ROTS pegs(why should they there still full of figs at 50 pegs), the other three are down to just 10 pegs at 2 stores and 12 at the other store :(. I don't like my chances for short-packed figs in this collection >:(
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: CHEWIE on December 21, 2005, 01:06 PM
I think 2006 will be a return to ordering a few cases online for me.

 :P
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: speedermike on December 21, 2005, 05:30 PM
I was amazed how easy the OTC stuff was to find, especially the "new" stuff such as the Dagobah  or Cantina waves.  I'm sure there will be slim pickins, but I can't imagne that Hasbro would allow SW to poop out right now.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: CHEWIE on December 21, 2005, 09:06 PM
I don't think the stuff will be too hard to find, at least not the first few waves.  Good thoughts guys.  But vehicles... hmmm?

 :P
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Jesse James on December 22, 2005, 12:41 AM
While one of my local Wm's still hasn't changed their ROTS pegs(why should they there still full of figs at 50 pegs), the other three are down to just 10 pegs at 2 stores and 12 at the other store :(. I don't like my chances for short-packed figs in this collection >:(

Ironic how a non-movie year goes RIGHT back to the same old song and dance as in the past despite riding an incredible high of Star Wars love through the holiday season.  A very dumb**** move on retail's part IMO... 

I haven't noticed much change at retail yet...  Stuff's just dead/empty right now and I'm anxious for the holidays to pass and see some new stuff...  Hell there's some old stuff from '05 I'd still like to see but which I now know I won't be seeing for quite a while.

Saga06 should try mixing some ROTS figures in on the new cardbacks ala OTC mixing in old Saga stuff...  Would be a wise move if you ask me.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on December 22, 2005, 07:18 AM
I would say that between 8 to 16 pegs is what we'll see. What may be concerrning is that it seems in most case assortments (as seen over on EE), the more popular figures are 1 per case, while other figures (wave 3 as an example has 2 C3P0, 2 Poggle the Lesser, 2 Sun Lac and 2 Yoda's while the popular figures are only 1 per case) which are the least popular are only 1 per case. I have to admit that the Hoth wave based on EE seems to have more of the popular figures at the 2 level (2x General Veers with Removable Armor and blaster (Saga #7), 2x Major Bren Derlin (Saga #8), 2x AT-AT Driver with blaster (Saga #9), 1x R2-D2 with Rebel travel accessories (Saga #10), 2x Snowtrooper with blaster (Saga #11), 1x General Rieekan with blaster (Saga #12), 1x Darth Vader with lightsaber (Saga #13), 1x Power Droid with Assistant Droid and scanning accessories (Saga #14)), but I do not understand the wave 3 case ratio's. So, I do see the potetional in some areas of the more popular figures becoming hard to find because of the amount of pegs and peg warmers that will be on the shelves. I do not believe that the popularity of the wave will continue (with the casual kids/parents) much beyond late spring/early summer when the new summer block busters with their promotional materials hit retail. Don't take me wrong, product will move, but we all know that some product will peg warm and that if there are enough peg warmers, that can slow up at some stores/areas, the arrival of new product as the warehouse ships only the inital allocation, then never reorders it in.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 1, 2006, 11:12 PM
It looks like WalMart and Target both have 8 pegs each for Saga figures.  Obviously, both represent HUGE downscales from what they had in EIII, which was to be expected I guess.  It won't be long before the Saga repacks are jamming the few pegs that the stores have, while the new figures are gone.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 2, 2006, 11:04 AM

Ironic how a non-movie year goes RIGHT back to the same old song and dance as in the past despite riding an incredible high of Star Wars love through the holiday season.  A very dumb**** move on retail's part IMO... 

What a breath of fresh air to hear someone blame the right party, and not Hasbro, for this.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 2, 2006, 11:18 AM
I agree, as far as I know Hasbro's Star Wars line was announced recently as the #1 selling toy line.  Why the section is being scaled down to single digit pegs really doesn't make sense to me.  If you're not going to have a lot of the #1 selling line on your shelf, what do you want to put there?
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: jedistyle on January 2, 2006, 11:29 AM
 i went hunting for saga figures the other day, but found none. the shelf space however has not changed much.

tru had it's massive display as usual, with a few 12" figures, rots melenium falcons and some peg warmer rots figs.

target had a bigger area the usual set up for starwars, but they had little on the shelves at all.

kb toys didn't even have a starwars section though. they had a bunch of vader costumes and a couple rots peg warmer. it was an isle end display with like 4 pegs and 3 shelves. not much  at all!

didn't check wal-mart of k-mart.

Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Brian on January 3, 2006, 10:37 AM
The peg/shelf space situation has changed quite a bit around here, but Star Wars overall still seems to have plenty of the aisle taken up.  At Target, there seems to be 3 (bare) pegs for basic figures now, with spaces next to it for Unleashed Battle Packs (which have been sitting at WM and Target for awhile now), Galactic Heroes, Force Battlers, Titanium, etc.  Wal-Mart has something similar, although they haven't really "reset" their aisle yet.  Our WM basically has the same, larger ROTS basic figure section, but only has (had, now) one peg with figures on it.  Otherwise an empty aisle.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 5, 2006, 11:53 AM
I went on a toy run this morning, and I am disturbed.

At Walmart, the planograms are being redone.  I saw the blueprint hanging up in each 4 foot section.  At the Star Wars section, bad things are happening.  The planogram called for 2 vertical rows of pegs for Star Wars, the one on the left is Force Battlers, and the one on the right is Galactic Heroes.  They are surrounded by Attacktix and those crappy little plastic lightsabers.  There is no spot on the planogram for Basic Saga 3 3/4" figures!!  The planogram was done, and no peg hooks were put out for them either, and it looked exactly like the blueprint.

Now before the planogram was redone, I did see some SAGA figs hanging on pegs at Walmart randomly by EIII figures, but they are all sold out now and there's no spot on the shelf to put any more.

Has anyone else observed this at their Walmart?

I was kinda counting on them with Target, Toys 'R' Us and KB Toys charging 6.88, 6.99, and 7.99 respectively.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Brian on January 5, 2006, 12:11 PM
I stopped by our closest Wal-Mart yesterday morning, and they had done their "reset" (although no basic figures were on the pegs).  We did have a few pegs for them though, at $5.88.  I think there were three pegs vertically, surrounded by the "other" stuff.  A few pegs for Unleashed Battle Packs, some Force Battlers, Galactic Heroes, Transformers, and Attacktix.  I think that at both Target and Wal-Mart, the Jedi Force line is gone (not that anyone probably cares).  Definitely scaled back for 2006, as we expected, and I think both Target and Wal-Mart have 3 pegs each for their basic figures (totally empty so far).
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 5, 2006, 12:19 PM
Definitely scaled back for 2006, as we expected, and I think both Target and Wal-Mart have 3 pegs each for their basic figures (totally empty so far).

Not even those 3 pegs were included in my WalMart planogram.

Target, however, does have 8 pegs in their's.

I guess there are differences regionally.
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 5, 2006, 12:53 PM
Why the section is being scaled down to single digit pegs really doesn't make sense to me. 

Well, it makes sense to retailers somehow :P

Now that I've seen 2 different case assortments in the first wave come and go at my WM's I'm glad to anounce there's no pegwarmers so far. I've shopped at 6 different WM's since Dec 23 and they all seem to have 4-6 pegs only for basic figs. This tells me that gone are the days of a store getting 12-14 cases in at a time; now it's more like 1-3 only-and as long as they sell they won't pegwarm.

The only cases I've heard(I wouldn't call it pegwarming) of seeing these saga on the shelves is primarily at Target- but I'm sure it's solely due to their prices more than anything else. I think once Target competitively lowers their price you'll see empty pegs like I do at Walmart. If I hadn't got the first wave when I did at WM I'd still be looking...I remember the first time I saw the figs on pallets (only 1 or 2 case per store) they were gone the next day :o
Title: Re: Peg/Shelf Space
Post by: Clone On Fire on January 5, 2006, 05:28 PM
Yeah regrettably at the moment it looks like Target has the better plano for finding figures, too bad since they are over $1 more expensive.  Luckily half of Saga is repacks.