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Community => Watto's Junk Yard => Topic started by: Scott on December 18, 2002, 10:55 AM
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I can't go until this week due to the Padawan but I can't wait...anyone screen it last night, going today??? Let me hear all about it...the second best trilogy ever!
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My wife went out of state two days ago for a wedding, and made me promise to wait until she gets back on Sunday to see it, so I'm unfortunately stuck in a holding pattern on this highly anticipated flick as well... :(
And I'd have to agree with your second best trilogy award there too Scott. Behind the Original Trilogy, but (I might get flamed for this) ahead of the Prequels...by a pretty fair margin. Of course George still has a slim chance of rectifying that, but he's got a LOT of ground to make up at this point!
FOTR was amazing, and from everything I've heard, TTT is even better. I can't wait!
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The movie was awesome. I can not describe the film any better, than that one word--awesome. :)
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Coming from someone who hasn't read the books and thus didn't know what was going to happen....
The movie was really cool, at least the combat made the movie awesome, the storyline w/ all these weird names doesn't make it all too fluid for me, but then again I havent read the books. It all eventually makes sense.
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I can't wait to see it! I'm going this weekend. Like many of you, I haven't read any of the books, but I know all the names and stuff. ;)
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I can't wait to see it myself. I think we are going this weekend.
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I caught this epic again for the second time just recently, and all I've got to say is AWESOME. The Lord of the Rings Trilogy is what I was truly hoping the Star Wars prequels were going to be all along, but they've fallen far short of Peter Jackson's excellent LOTR work IMO.
I love that most everything just looks and feels real in both of the LOTR flicks. Not nearly as much CG, and when there is, it's not nearly as noticeable and overwhelming. Someone said it very well elsewhere, when they said that Peter Jackson uses CGI to advance the overall story when necessary, but George Lucas practically uses CGI as his story. There's just too much of it in the Prequels. I often find myself realizing that not a single thing on the screen at that moment is real, and thinking that I'm essentially just watching a really well done cartoon.
I also love the added length to the LOTR films. I understand that some people don't care much for 3 hour length movies - usually due to drinking too many sodas and needing to bust a squirt doing the movie, but I love a good, long movie. Certainly more entertainment value, to say the least. There's so much more story to tell and character development that should take place in the Prequels, but Lucas absolutely refuses to go over 2 hours and 20 minutes total for any of his movies (and it's certainly not a cost issue). At this day and age, that's plain silly. There's been tons of very lengthy movies (over 2.5 hours) that have done huge box office over the past 5 years. Why can't Star Wars jump into that mix as well and give us more of what we want to see.
I could go on and on about what I've enjoyed in LOTR so far, but I won't. Basically, Tolkien's already excellent stories have just been brilliantly interpreted into film by Jackson. They're just epic all the way through.
It should be very interesting to see what George has in store for Episode 3, 'cause there's a hell of a lot of story left to tell, loose ends to tie up, parts to tie into the O.T., etc. Please Mr. Lucas: Return to the OT magic, and give us a kick a$$ Episode 3, so the Saga can go out in style...
But at this point, the Prequels have virtually no chance of catching LOTR for second best trilogy of all time - behind the Original Trilogy of course! Just my opinion, of course...
Just caught this link (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2003-01-15-rings-stars_x.htm) that Scott posted to an interesting debate over the two film franchises at USAToday's site. Interesting...
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I finally saw it over the weekend. Excellent.
The one thing I will mention is.............. Gollum 8)
It just goes to show that if a character is developed enough and truly is done well then you can love him even if he is skirting on the edge of sanity.
I really felt for Gollum and the fact that he was CGI never caused me to look for the "fake" look, or the bits that just look unreal and cartoony. This is the first case for me when a major CGI character has been so damn convincing unlike his comparison.......Jar Jar Binks.
It makes me think that maybe if Jar Jar was a better character to begin with he could have been as convincing as Gollum was, maybe even better. But when you start hating something, you look for more reason to hate it until you can't stand it.
Sorry all you Jar Jar fans but seeing Gollum made me realise just how much better he could have been.
Did anyone notice the background behind Merry, Pippin and Treebeard?
Treebeard was done absolutely brilliantly but the background was so lame it kind of ruined all the shots where you could see it. There was no problem when you saw all of Treebeard, it was just the close ups >:(
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I may be alone in this, but I can't wait to see the final movie in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. In fact, I've already got December 17th off of work so I can stand in line and await cinematic bliss. I didn't even do this for 'The Phantom Menace' or 'Attack of the Clones' or the previous two LOTR flicks, for that matter.
Anybody patiently or not-so-patiently awaiting this movie? 8)
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Definitely anticipating the movie. Impatiently? Not really. I've got lots to do between now and then. I'll start getting really frenzied when the Giftpack edition of The Two Towers comes out on DVD.
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I'm looking forward to it, but I'm not over anxious for it to come out.
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I'm really looking forward to it myself. TheOneRing.net is saying the preview trailer may be in front of T3, so that ought to get everybody going again.
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I like The Lord or the Rings series quite a bit but I'm that juiced for ROTK just yet . I think it's because The Twin Towers was just in theatres in Dec. I have not had enough time to miss the series yet. Plus I am not really what you call a LOTR fan. I don't know all the characters by heart or the story even. I am not into it like Star Wars. However, when the movie is about to be released I will be ready for it. I will get the whole series on DVD for sure. I think Peter Jackson has done a great job for their fans.
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I may be alone in this, but I can't wait to see the final movie in the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
You kidding me with that statement HMI?! :D :P
You're definitely not alone in your anticipation for the final flick from LOTR! This is an absolutely amazing trilogy that Peter Jackson and his cast and crew have put together. Simply breathtaking and awe-inspiring. It's everything I was hoping the Star Wars prequels would be, but unfortunately weren't.
I'm really looking forward to the conclusion as well. It doesn't hold the place in my heart that Star Wars does, where I feel the need to buy every collectible on the market, wait in line overnight, travel the country to conventions, etc. But the LOTR movies themselves are just awesome. I love being "in" that universe that Tolkien created...
But ROTJ won't be the end of this saga, technically... After the HUGE success of this trilogy, you can only assume that someone, hopefully Peter Jackson, will go back and do the prequel at least! There's very little doubt in my mind that The Hobbit will eventually make it to the big screen as well. That should be a fun one too, if not a little less on the serious side. There was an amazing fan made Hobbit trailer a few months back that got everyone thinking it was the real thing. Very cool. No idea where it went, but I'm sure someone here could provide a link.
So bring on ROTK! Another epic it will be, I'm sure... 8)
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I cannot wait for this movie. I am a LOTR fan and I have to say so far Peter has done an excellent job bringing the tale to life on the big screen.
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But ROTJ won't be the end of this saga...
You may be thinking of another saga... ;)
I've been a LOTR fan since the FOTR movie was released. Since then, I've read all three LOTR books and the Hobbit and have become an avid fan of Tolkien's works.
I'm impatiently awaiting the release of ROTK. After reading the ROTK book, I can see this is gonna be one hell of a movie. Personally, I just can't wait to see Pippin in his Gondorian getup. :P
Bring on the Two Towers DVD and the ROTK videogame! They'll have to tide me over... ;D
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But ROTJ won't be the end of this saga...
You may be thinking of another saga... ;)
D'oh! Nice catch Michael... Yeah, my brain was thinking Return of the King, but my fingers were tying the all too familiar ROTJ instead. Oh well, only off by one letter, I suppose! But yeah, ROTJ wasn't the end of the Saga either, now was it?! ;)
It's going to be hard watching the final LOTR flick, knowing this will be the end of most of these characters for us on the big screen. Oh well, we'll just have to enjoy it while it lasts. Looking forward to another marathon epic by Mr. Jackson to tie it all up! 8)
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Patiently waiting. I never read the books before seeing FOTR and to tell you the truth, I wasn't that excited when FOTR came out. It looked good and everything, but I didn't understand the hype. When I walked out of the theater after seeing it for the first time, I was blown away. And the wife loved it too, and she hates sci fi / fantasy flicks. (except Star Wars ;))
Since then, I've read the book and own both versions of FOTR. I plan on doing the same when TTT is released. I'm sure my anticipation of ROTK will increase when the sneak preview of it is shown on the DVD of TTT (similar to the TTT preview on FOTR)
I am sure its going to be amazing and I'll be the first day to see. I just hope PJ doesn't pull any punches and shows a truely epic battle. I know its a little gruesome, but I want to see [possible spoiler]
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heads of fallen men flying over the walls during the Battle of Gondor[end spoiler]
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Am I ever anticipating this! I remember when I read the LoTR trilogy in 3rd grade, it took me the whole year to read the trilogy and The Hobbit . . . and that's with thirty minutes of SSR (Sustained Silent Reading) each day, and I even read more on weekends! Whenever I didn't understand a word, I'd look it up in my dictionary. ;D
Anyway, I always thought that Lord of the Rings would translate well to film but it had to be done just right. Well I think it was done better than any of my expectations for it. I really have grown into the cast with all of the behind the scenes info and most of them are so cool that if you write to them they'll send you an autograph or maybe even a letter! (I have all of the mains except for Ian McKellen and Christopher Lee)
So yes, I am looking forwards to this a lot.
I am sure its going to be amazing and I'll be the first day to see. I just hope PJ doesn't pull any punches and shows a truely epic battle. I know its a little gruesome, but I want . .
I totally agree. The "Battle" will be so cool and I really don't think he'll pull anything from it or else we would have seen some of that in Helm's Deep. (KEYWORD: SOME) I do know that my friend thought that The Two Towers was too intense and gory and walked out of it. (Sad thing: this was when the Wargs attacked- didn't even see HD. Not the same friend who just walked out of TTT because they thought it was bad)
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Here's the new teaser poster, on the off-chance that someone here hasn't seen it yet:
(http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0167260/rotkteaser_poster.jpg)
I think I heard that they're supposed to release more posters like this, with different characters, in the weeks and months ahead. . .
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I haven't. Thanks, it looks cool!
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I saw that poster in the lobby when I saw T3 today. I wanted to walk out with it, but the greaseballs behind the concession stand were looking in that direction. Off to allposters.com I go.
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I've read the book already so I know what's going to happen. I'm sure it will be pretty close to the book, and lots of eye candy just like the first 2. I was saddened not to see Shelob in TTT, so that's how it should start.
I'd like to see him do the Hobbit and the Silmarillion. the Hobbit would give a great back-story, and the Silmarillion has the origins of Sauron, and Shelob's mother.
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That teaser poster looks great! Thanks for sharing it with us Virex.
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The ending will be different from the book by all accounts I have heard.
I actually thought the whole Scouring of the Shire bit at the end of the book was too long and drawn out anyway. I realize it was there to show that the Hobbits had all grown up and they could take care of themselves now but I didn't think it was necessary. I really can't wait for the darn trailer though...I think i heard not until August
Funny thing about The Hobbit too which I am currently reading. While the lore is still the same I am very much struck at how different the writing styles of Hobbit and LOTR actually are. The Hobbit is very much more a CHildrens tale (almost comedic in a lot of spots) while LOTR is adult fiction and yet they are meant to be from the saga.
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When you think about the Hobbit and LOTR's plots, one is about an adventure for treasure, and the other is a life or death quest to save the world. I think LOTR would have to be more serious. I mean, the end of the world isn't very comical. :)
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Oh sure I realize that, it just is facinating that the Tolkien wrote about the same basic world in two totally different ways (and I guess the Silmarillion is even slightly different in almost a textbook sort of way)
The man was amazing!
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The Hobbit is the easiest read. I've read it 4 times since I was 16. The LOTR trilogy is a bit tougher, and The Silmarillion is by far the toughest. The Silmarillion reads kind of like the Bible. It's all about the beginings. It has some great tales, but I found myself constantly flipping to the back of the book to look up the terms. It seems like everyone had 3 names. It's worth reading just for the stories of Sauron, and Beren & Luthien.
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Where is the trailer! I cannot wait for this movie, more than Episode III for sure
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The Silmarillion reads kind of like the Bible. It's all about the beginings. It has some great tales, but I found myself constantly flipping to the back of the book to look up the terms.
LOL, that’s exactly right! – the reference section of my copy has a huge thumb print on it :)
It’s so cool how the bible-like Silmarillion sets up this totally believable alternate history for the world, which then can accommodate the contrasting story telling styles of the Hobbit and LOTR.
I can’t wait for ROTK. What I’ve really enjoyed about the two films so far is the humanising of the characters – I think they’re even more interesting and plausible than in the books. I like the way that PJ has kept with all the fellowship members and hopefully this will continue in last film, because the only thing that disappointed the ROTK book was that Legolas and Gimli didn’t have so much to do – I’m sure PJ will write in some more cool stuff for them in this film like he did in TTT.
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The trailer has been leaked!
I have it...not sure how I can share it though
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I managed to catch it before it was pulled, but I don't have it saved on my computer. It was awesome to say the least. :)
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SPOILERS
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Scene 1 Sam and Frodo walking through Mordor
Scene 2 Gandalf and Pippin talking about hope
Scene 3 Frodo clawing his way through mud
Scene 4 Merry and Pippin "We will see the Shire again"
Scene 5 Gandalf and Pippin riding to Minas Tirith
Scene 6 The Eye and some Orcs
Scene 7 Faramir talking to Denethor
Scene 8 Orcs Running through the streets of Osgiliath???
Scene 9 Theoden and Eowyn talking before Theoden leaves (Shots of Roahn soldiers and Aragorn follow)
Scene 10 Gandalf "The board is set, piece s are moving) Shots of Minas Tirith and soldiers on the walls at night
Scene 11 Aragorn LEading a Group (Probably to Mordor)
Scene 12 Gandalf riding Shadowfax to the top of the walls of MT to show the orcs approaching the city (The great Battle of our time)
Scene 13 Rohan Soldiers Charging
Scene 14 Orcs Battering the door of MT, scaling the walls
Scene 15 Nazgul on steed approaching MT
Scene 16 Sam and Frodo realizing Gollum has led them to Shelobs lair
Scene 17 Gollum talking about tricking the Hobbits in a puddle
Scene 18 Orcs catapulting fire balls into MT
Scene 19 Sam and Frodo In the Lair
Scene 20 Gollum talking
Scene 21 Aragorn and co in the paths of the dead
Scene 22 Rohan riding to the battle
Scene 23 Legolas with his bow drawn
Scene 24 Rohan charging the orcs
Scene 25 Aragorn with his sword
Scene 26 Gondor charging
Secne 27 Gandalf and Shadowfax meet the Nazgul and his steed
THE END
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PM me if you want a link :-*
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Stole it from a link at RS. I had a hard time keeping my jaw from hitting the floor after I put it in place. It's quite sad and hopeless in its tone, especially the conversation between Gandalf and Pippin. :(
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I echo all of HMI's sentiments (including the stealing). Sad, wonderful, epic.
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I'm so pumped for this movie!! This sneak-peak is incredible and, as mentioned above, sad and wonderful - all in one.
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I'm really looking forward to this movie as well, this little "sneak peek" looks amazing, and really makes a person look forward to December :).
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Less than 4 weeks until TTT on DVD, with its ROTK sneak peeks, which will somewhat whet my appetite. I watched the TTT sneak peek on FOTR about 15 times, and it should be no different this time around.
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Anyone else feel like I do about ROTK? I really think it is the weakest part of the "trilogy" of books. Mainly because it is more of a continuation of TTT all of the main players are introduced and we basically know what will happen. Plus the end just drags on forever in the book. I don't think Jackson will do the same (in fact I know he won't)...
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I don't know. I think the beginning in the Shire and the ending in the Shire seem to drag. It just took Tolkien so long to get moving, but everything picked up once they reached the Prancing Pony and the Ringwraiths showed up. I flew through TTT and ROtK and really couldn't put the book down. I actually enjoyed RotK more, up to the climax (which I won't spoil for those not in the know). Maybe its the grander scale of battles - Helms Deep wasn't really as "epic" in the book as it was in the movie - whereas I felt the Siege of Gondor and the Pellenor Fields were.
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clicky clicky (http://www.undergash.net/home/rotk_768.mov)
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This pic is probably a spoiler, but if you clicked on a thread with the letters 'ROTK' in its title than you're probably asking for it.
(http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/6699.jpg)
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And here be another...
(http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/6694.jpg)
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Sweet! Merry and Pippin in Rohan and Gondor armor...are those pics from the ROTK Calender still floating around (Frodo in Shelob's Lair, King Aragorn etc etc)
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Thanks for adding the alert to the title. That was my next step after the pics. :)
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Minor spoilers ahead, but these are just too cool.
http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_rotk_teaser.html?gollum (http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_rotk_teaser.html?gollum)
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Another thread where I'm just talking to myself.
Anyway, check out this spoilerish shlock, courtesy of TheGD.com:
http://www.thegd.com/photo.asp?image=/images/Toys/Mattel/LOTR_Barbie.jpg (http://www.thegd.com/photo.asp?image=/images/Toys/Mattel/LOTR_Barbie.jpg)
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I like reading your stuff HMI :-*, anyone watch the preview on the DVD yet?
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Thanks, OCB. I watched that preview. ROTK is going to be one insanely awesome flick.
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(http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/8587.jpg)
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I couldn't wait for ROTK last year after seeing TTT, but watching the DVD recently (as well as the preview on that disc), has really got me ready for this movie. It was nice only having these movies a year apart, so we don't have to wait quite as long :). Thanks for the links, pics, etc. guys!
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www.theonering.net (http://www.theonering.net) has the brand spanking new ROTK trailer on their main page. It's got some subtitles, as it's taken from Asian TV, and it's a long download, but it is worth the wait.
All the more I'll say is: Holy living f***, it's awesome. AWESOME.
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This will be a day long remembered... wait, that's another trilogy...
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That trailer is on par with the first teaser for Episode 1. Utterly amazing. Speechless.
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I wonder if that's the Gondor theme at the end there. Man, this flick is going to be amazing. I simply cannot wait.
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It is, best I can tell. Sounds new, though.
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I just creamed the monitor...
This is quite possibly the best trailer I have ever seen and it shows how utterly amazing this trilogy is and will be once complete. ROTK is my least favorite of the chapters of LOTR but this makes me think differently.
Beautiful and dark and breathtaking...
2 more months!
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Man, this is going to be one helluva movie!! That trailer just makes the wait all the longer!! 78 days and counting!!
*Eowyn's battle scenes are going to be fantastic!!*
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I've watched the trailer a few times today now, and this just looks incredible. I have been very impressed with all of the LOTR movies so far, and unfortunately they are leading me into collecting the toy line as well :). I can't wait until this hits theatres. Behind Star Wars, I really think this is my favorite movie saga of all time (Indy Jones is up there too). The story these movies tell is just amazing, a great credit to Tolkien. I've never read the books, but I really want to now.
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All I can say is: READ THE BOOKS!! Fellowship drags on in the journey to the Bree and the Tom Bombadil chapters but if you can get past that (and this is just my opinion) the rest of the books are fantastic.
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All I can say is: READ THE BOOKS!! Fellowship drags on in the journey to the Bree and the Tom Bombadil chapters but if you can get past that (and this is just my opinion) the rest of the books are fantastic.
I agree with Beth on both accounts - read the books and the Shire parts drag (both the beginning of FOTR and the end of ROTK). I might read it again in anticipation of ROTK.
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There's a hi-res version at lordoftherings.net if ye need a better one.
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6 more weeks...6 more weeks
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http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_rotk_teaser.html?theatrical
Behold the theatrical poster.
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Crap in a hat, I forgot. For those of us stuck in Iowa, I present to you the theaters that will be screening the extended versions of Fellowship and Two Towers:
Wynnsong 16
5233 NW 84th Street
Johnston, IA 50131
Showcase 53 Cinema 18
3601 E. 53rd Street
Davenport, IA 52807
I'm surprised Cedar Rapids and Des Moines didn't get these, but Johnston isn't far from DM. Of course, Waterloo/CF wouldn't get them, so I wasn't holding my breath.
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So...anyone heard definitively if Aragorn and Sauron are going to go head to head? Or is that just a rumor and Aragorn does go up against the Mouth of Sauron...
Cool poster!
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So...anyone heard definitively if Aragorn and Sauron are going to go head to head? Or is that just a rumor and Aragorn does go up against the Mouth of Sauron...
Cool poster!
I didn't hear anything definitively. However, I was reading through some LOTR book - I believe it was the weopons and warfare one - and its reasonably infered that he faces the Mouth of Sauron and not Sauron himself. Its a pretty cool book, I might have to go back and pick it up.
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I'm sure people saw the stuff Melkor reported over at GHand RS that Sauruman has been cut from the theatrical release of ROTK. How do you feel about that? It sort of sucks that he is left hanging with his fate undecided
I also realize there were no plans for the Shire ending ala the books so again he is not needed...sort of strange but also I can see why it happened
Also, it seems like New Line has always held the line that the movies come under a certain time frame so Jackson didn't have a lot of choice with most of the movies focusing on the trio going into Mordor and the battle of Gondor
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I was hoping the flick was going to be three and a half hours, but I doubt it now. Another quickie for New Line's bottom line.
Screw it, at least I get what I want on the EE DVDs.
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I heard that The ROTK was three and a half hours long, from someone i know who saw the screening of it. But i did not hear that Saruman was cut from ROTK, why?
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Yeah, this was a bummer to hear of Saruman/Christopher Lee's exclusion... That's a loose end that really should be tied up theatrically, since not everyone's actually read the books and knows what's happened to him.
Sorry to hear that the real conclusion involving the Scouring of the Shire is left out too. :-\
I'm sure it'll still be a great flick though, like the previous two. Hopefully equally long in length as those two as well! 8)
I'm sure that the ROTK EE will fill in a few holes once it's released though, but I'd rather have a couple of these bigger plot points picked up in the theater personally. Oh well!
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theonering.net (http://theonering.net) has 'Into the West' from the soundtrack/score on the main page. It's sung (sang?) by Annie Lennox. Please drop any Eurhytmics expectaions--this is great stuff.
The soundtrack is out next week, Nov. 25.
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This may be some good news that SWCJB just posted over at GH:
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The scene being cut from the film is the wizard duel between Gandalf and Saruman. Christopher Lee is not out of ROTK entirely but is upset that the 7 minute battle was cut. Whether or not the Palantir incident or Shire incident will still be in it remains to be seen but I'm betting yes.
Hopefully Saruman's in there somewhere. He's just been too important a character in the first two to leave out entirely, without addressing his demise...
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Hopefully that's true. It wouldn't be right if Christopher Lee didn't grace the screen with all his castmates one last time. Just have him wave goodbye, I don't care.
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For some reason this scene came to mind Darb :-*
(http://www.rossetta.com/bhbye.jpg)
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In case you care...
http://www.lordoftherings-soundtrack.com/ (http://www.lordoftherings-soundtrack.com/)
I can't get enough of 'Into the West'. Great, great stuff.
And I wanted you all to ogle my avatar.
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Hey, cool avatar HMI. I had a Legolas one but I changed it to Mara and now I can't find Legolas to use it for December. Oh well...as for the the soundtrack, I can't wait to get this one. Though nothing can compete with John William's and the Star Wars themes, I do like Howard Shore and the first two soundtracks were very well composed, I can only assume ROTK will be phenomenal, just like the movie!!
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LOL, OCB. ;D
And HMI snagged the bestest avatar out there. Miranda Otto. Sigh.
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Thanks for the compliments (that I SO fished for).
Anyway, there's another Legolas icon at that site in you're still looking for one.
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The December 1st edition of Newsweek (the one with Aragorn on the cover) has the first published pics of the Army of the Dead if anyone's interested in taking a peak. Pretty cool looking.
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For my fellow Eowyn fans:
http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_editorials_otto_interview_video.html (http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_editorials_otto_interview_video.html)
Video, an interview, and a desktop. Yay!
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World premiere in New Zealand complete with Ticker Tape parade :o 16 days...16 days
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World premiere in New Zealand complete with Ticker Tape parade :o 16 days...16 days
Indeed. (http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/01/rings.premiere.reut/index.html)
(http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/entertainment/0312/gallery.rings/gallery.1.jpg)
Can't wait! Watched FOTR EE again last week, and will be watching TTT EE for the first time this week. Then on to the ROTK premiere, followed by an 11 month wait for the even better ROTK EE! 8) Hopefully at some point on down the line, they'll run another "Trilogy Tuesday" type of event with the ROTK EE version following the first two EEs. That would make up for my missing it this time around!
Then, a few years later - The Hobbit! ;)
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That Picture is sweet!!!!!!!!!!1 ;D
Can't wait 15 DAYS!
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13 Days!!! ;D
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I taped that ABC Primetime thing. They spent a lot of time on a scene where Gandalf is at Isengard. PJ is trying to get a closeup of Gandalf, and the wind is not cooperating.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure that gets axed from the theatrical cut, since Saruman's rumored not to be in it. And if that is so, there's really no need for Gandalf to be there.
OK, this is making less sense as I go on, so, 12 days.
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1 week baby!
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so the countdown begins! 8)
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Well, I won't be able to see the flick until the 18th. Goddamn work and the fact I have to be there. There are days I wish I never had taken my position.
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Just purchased my tix for the 7:15pm showing on the 17th. Less than a week baby!
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I got the 2:30 pm , showing.
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And now I won't be able to see the movie until Friday the 19th. Grr. Arrgh. As if the wait wasn't long enough.
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:) ;) :D ;D 3 DAYS ;D :D ;) :)
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Anyone going tonight?
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Meh, my friends wouldn't go so I'm going tomorrow at the 9:30 show (they complained about that one being too late even). They're stick in the muds. :)
I wanted to go tonight th ough... Just as well though, since I'm tired from X-Mas shopping yet again today.
Can't wait for tomorrow night now though... This is gonna be a doozey!
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Man I wish I would have bought tickets for Trilogy Tuesday! I could be watching FOTR right now! :)
I am happy that I got to see both FOTR EE and TTT EE at the theater though, so Im definately in the mood to see ROTK. Im going straight from work to the theater tomorrow, cant wait!
Ill say this much, Im much more excited about ROTK than I ever was about AOTC.
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They sprung a midnight show on us here so I'm going tonight. Four more hours!! ;D
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I swear to god tomorrow cant get here quick enough! I'm about to platz! Tomorrow is going to be the longest day I've experienced in ages.
Just watched a Starz! preview of ROTK, Jesus this looks fantastic! I know what will happen, but I'm still overwhelmingly excited.
I'll say this much, if we didnt have the original trilogy, my room would be filled with Lord of the Rings merchandise right now, not Star Wars...
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3 hrs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So... Beth? Spuff? How was it? As awesome as we're all anticipating?! No spoilers though... Beth, did you make it through the entire Trilogy Tuesday unscathed? Was it great to see them all back to back to back? Or was it exhausting by the time you were nearing the end (which I can't possibly imagine being the case)?
I'm hoping to catch it tomorrow evening, but since I've been getting my ass kicked at work, and sleeping about 4 hours a night this week, I'm not sure I'd make it all the way through. I want to be as alert as possible as I take this bad boy in! We'll see...
Giddy with anticipation, I am! :D
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Got my tickets Tuesday afternoon, so I'm set... Me and 3 of my buddies are going and one of my buddies gf's... SHould be a fun time.
Then either Thursday or over the weekend I'm off to see it once more.... Maybe twice depending who I get to go.
Should be a rootin', tootin', arrow shootin' good time.
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Well, I went!
Initially, I spoke to the theatre manager about 2 weeks ago regarding a Midnight show, to which he told me that his theatre just doesn't do well with Midnight shows.
That said, they ended up scheduling one just the other day for which I got tickets for.
Get to the theatre at 11:15, lo and behold, literally all of Mooresville, NC had shown up! To my surprise, they added a 12:15 and 12:30. The 12:00 show was just packed, as was the 12:15 which I had to trade tickets for.
I can only sum the movie up in two words.
F***ing incredible.
I think it's the best of the 3, and it goes without saying, although I'll say it, that this is the greatest movie franchise of all time.
It clocks in just under 3 hrs, 15 min, so be careful as to what you get at the concession stand. ;D
I'm going to try and go back either this afternoon, or Thursday morning.
Brilliant, brilliant work.
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Caught it at a midnight show last night as well. Amazing. Beautiful. Amazingly beautiful. The battles were just spectacular, and wait until you see what Aragorn has up his sleeve for the battle of the Pellenor.
Spuffy--what theater were you in last night? I was in #1.
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Just got back from the 11am showing. It is a wonderful movie. Many things are cut from the book but I hear they are put back in for the extended DVD, over an hour of footage. :)
I recomend this movie. The Trilogy is now complete. Can't wait to see how Peter Jackson translates "The Hobbit" after he finishes the remake of "King Kong."
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;D I was in #2. We had to wait in that huge line until midnight so another movie could let out. Lots of people were cutting, and there was no room to breathe. But it was worth it, once we got inside.
ROTK is the best of the three, one of the best films of all time, but probably ten minutes too long. Of course I'll be waiting for four hours of it on the DVD, so I think I'll have to see it again to know if it was just the late night fatigue. So many great things to look forward to on the DVD, since A LOT was left out, some of which is visible in the trailer and on the TTT preview.
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So... Beth? Spuff? How was it? As awesome as we're all anticipating?! No spoilers though... Beth, did you make it through the entire Trilogy Tuesday unscathed? Was it great to see them all back to back to back? Or was it exhausting by the time you were nearing the end (which I can't possibly imagine being the case)?
No sleep yet, just got back from the long drive home. Still can't even begin to describe how fantastic the whole trilogy was transcribed from book to screen. Peter Jackson did one helluva job and deserve's all the praises he has been receiving.
Sam, Frodo and Shelob.....INCREDIBLE!!!
Eowyn and the Witchking....AWESOME!! (and then some, the only time the entire theatre cheered!!)
Merry and Pippen....DELIGHTFUL!! (and wonderfully done by both actors).
The battles and the music that went with were enough to keep you on the edge of your seat (even if you read the books) and tons of stuff I'm sure I missed the first time around.
Did it seem like I was there for over 3 hours?? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what it was like in the 80's when the final installment of Return of the Jedi hit. A fantastic ending, tying up all the lose ends.
Must get some sleep now, going back tomorrow to see it again after work. At least here we don't have commercials before the show (15 frickin' minutes of coke commercials and 5-6 previews with only Spiderman and Harry Potter of any interest to me).
Good night ;)
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Did it seem like I was there for over 3 hours?? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Beth, didn't you go to Trilogy Tuesday yesterday? As in about ELEVEN straight hours of LOTR? I thought you did...
I just got back from picking up my tickets for the 7:45 show tonight. Wish I could just play hookie from work and go watch it RIGHT NOW though! Guess I'll try to be patient for another few hours... :-\
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Went to the midnight show last night as well. Wow, there's so much that's good about the movie that its difficult to sum it all up. Everyone's mentioned the highlights of spectacle that happen, so let me just add how great some of the more subtle touches are -
Gollem has taken yet another leap forward in realism. There's scenes with him and Frodo on long, holding close-ups of the two of them in the same frame. The CG performance is so good, you forget that its an animated character at all.
This time around Peter Jackson has pulled off classic horror-style suspense with the Shelob sequence. It feels fresh and tense but with a classic feel to it. I thought it was a great touch and a good wink to his roots.
Then there's the battles. The glorious battles. :)
It's not ALL good, however.
It's probably because we've been conditioned to the EE's on DVD, but you feel the absense of material that will obviously be restored next year for home video. Even at 3h20min it feels short!
The absense of resolution for Saruman is brushed off with a Lucas-flimsy dismissal. We know the sequence is returning on the DVD, but considering the time afforded at the end for all the other characters to wrap-up, you're left wanting.
Also, as well as the Sam/Frodo relationship develops in the movie, the dialog runs out of gas long before their actions do. As a result, expect a lot of 'Mr. Frodo!' 'Oh, Sam' remarks and longing, loving glances that, well... push the boundaries of male bonding.
These are, of course, minor hiccups in an otherwise fantastic movie. Worth seeing again, me thinks!
J
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There is far too much to pay credence to. The most fantastic moment for me (besides Eowyn and the Witch King) was the Ride of the Rohirrim. Glorious film making. And then the mumakil. I didn't think the utter despair that surrounded Helm's Deep could be topped, but the Pelennor Fields was a zero sum battle, a nuclear war where the nukes are horses and elephants and dead men. I'm still reeling.
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I'm still trying to digest it. I went to an 11:40 AM showing. It was incredible, to say the least. And to those who don't think Peter Jackson knows how to pull at the heart strings, you probably haven't seen this movie yet.
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Wow. Just epic. Breathtaking. It was just so sad to see it finally end, and to have to say goodbye to all these great characters (with the exception of Bilbo and Gandalf who will be in The Hobbit later on)...
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and I'm not even sure if the Academy can do this, but I'd give the Best Supporting Actor award to Gollum/Smeagol/Andy Sedarkis. That character's just amazing. Totally real, and totally incredible. I think he deserves it, regardless of the fact that he's mostly a CG character. Definitely plenty of awards headed in this movie's direction next year... I'd love to see them sweep it all!
One thing's for sure - the LOTR trilogy beats the living crap out of the Prequels. No question about it. It'd be near sacrilege to suggest it's better than the OT, but it's sure damned close. Nostalgia will probably keep the OT a smidge ahead in my books though... ;)
Though I enjoyed the long and diverse ending, I guess I can perhaps see why some folks think it was too long and drawn out (like my wife did). But I was happy to see everything wrapped up all nice and purty... Lot's of crying throughout the final 20-30 minutes as well, all throughout the theater - guys too!
Just sad to see it all come to an end... But what an absolutely amazing ride it's been! Peter Jackson deserves all the credit in the world, for giving us something that has provided us such joy and wonderment, and will continue to do so for many, many years to come. It's everything that a movie, or series of movies should be. PJ went ALL OUT from the start, and didn't disappoint. I can't imagine anyone else possibly coming close to what he accomplished with the adaptation from the books. I honestly wonder if I'll be this depressed after Episode 3, to have to say good bye to the franchise. I highly doubt I will...
Can't wait for the ROTK extended edition on DVD now... 8) Gimme a date Matt! When's it due out?!
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Amazing. Brilliant. Incredible. ******* Awesome. That pretty much sums up my take on the movie.
Shelob freaked me out, as I have a big distaste for spiders, but that whole scene was excellent.
Every major character had their chance to shine: Eowyn and the Witch King, Legolas and the oliphant, Merry and Pippin, Sam with Shelob and the Orcs, Gandalf kicking major ass with his staff and sword kung fu style and Aragorn with the Army of the Dead.
Smeagol (not Gollum) is one evil son of a bitch, as evidenced right from the beginning. Good job on Serkis' part on all aspects of his characters. A Best Supporting Actor nod just might be coming.
And it didn't seem anywhere 3 and 1/2 hours. The time flew by and at the end I wanted more.
I'm going again to see it today with a co-worker. I hope to catch everything I missed last night.
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Another thought.... What trailers did everyone get before the movie? The only two I really remember are Harry Potter and some stupid ****** ass movie "Captain Skyranger and the World of Tomorrow" Dumb looking to no end. I read online that Spider man was showing and was hoping for it. Alas it didn't happen. I said after the previews to no one in particular "No Spiderman and they give us that ****" The only bad part of my ROTK experience :(
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I'm listening to the CD right now and forgot to add how heart wrenching Pippen's song was with the flashes of Faramir going to his final battle and the mental demise of Denathor. Brilliant work!!
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I got Spiderman 2 on mine, which was ok actually. Relatively long, and a decent trailer. I'm not even a Spidey fan.
I also got The Mask 2 which has some CGI baby in it. It appears to me to be the type of film you would get a nosebleed if you thought about for more than 5 seconds.
The new Punisher trailer was also up... Again, not something I'm into, but it was there.
beyond that I can't think of any other trailers off-hand. There was a commercial for some robotics company working on the first C-3PO unit for humanity that will be mass-marketed.
Everyone kind of laughed at the stupidity of the advertisement.
And that was that.
Mid-way through the film, it broke on the reel (Sound was bad throughout too), and I thought a riot was about to ensue. Scary times when geeks lose their film mid-way, hehe.
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I got Spiderman 2 on mine, which was ok actually. Relatively long, and a decent trailer. I'm not even a Spidey fan.
I also got The Mask 2 which has some CGI baby in it. It appears to me to be the type of film you would get a nosebleed if you thought about for more than 5 seconds.
The new Punisher trailer was also up... Again, not something I'm into, but it was there.
beyond that I can't think of any other trailers off-hand. There was a commercial for some robotics company working on the first C-3PO unit for humanity that will be mass-marketed.
Everyone kind of laughed at the stupidity of the advertisement.
And that was that.
Mid-way through the film, it broke on the reel (Sound was bad throughout too), and I thought a riot was about to ensue. Scary times when geeks lose their film mid-way, hehe.
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We had all that 2, and the new THX logo, which instead of it being the huge glass ball that explodes it is the THX logo with Podrace sounds and Jurassic Park and Back to the future, in the background, and then you hear the nice THX sound!!!
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I really did have a blast at the movie last night, and I haven't felt that pumped about a movie in ages. It really gave me the urge to buy LOTR figures, and if the Toy Biz line were a little better, broader, and more consistent in quality (And perhaps a little cheaper) I'd be much more interested in it.
Seeing the wide variety of characters, army builders especially, just makes you wish for a better line. I pick up one here and there that I really REALLY like, or if it's on uber clearance, but beyond that I just can't bother with a line that just doesn't do the films justice I don't believe.
Imagine if they had a wider range of characters, better sculpts, and a consistent "standard" of articulation such as that found on figures like the Berzerker Uruk Hai... That line would clean house in the toy aisle. It sells amazingly well as it is, but it could be so much more to the fans I think.
Oh well... Perhaps someday, though they'll never have the push as they do now with the films and the toy industry being as it is today.
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The trailers I saw were the Punisher, Spider-Man 2 (can't wait for that one) and some Vin Diesel dreck.
I'm going to see the flick again on Friday with my siblings. They'll probably have to piss by the Battle of the Pellenor.
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I dont even know what to say about this movie. I saw it the other night, I've finally managed to collect myself enough to express my sentiments. This is by far the best movie I've ever seen. The entire experience was very moving, exciting, intriguing and magical. I went into this having such high expectations that I almost knew that no matter how great it was, it would not meet those expectations. The movie blew away my expectations completely. I knew what would happen, but it was still a fantastic experience. I knew what would ultimately happen with Sam/Frodo/Gollum and the Ring, yet I was still on the edge of my seat. I knew how the story would end, and I was still weeping like a baby.
The only bad thing I could ever say about this movie is that it is simply too short. By making up for scenes that were from The Two Towers, it felt like they didnt spend as much time on the ROTK content. I would have loved to see more about the shire. Once the ring was destroyed, it wrapped up too quickly. I cant wait for the extended edition, and the ultimate trilogy edition (the entire trilogy will be released as a set, with even more material added).
If these movies would have came out before the second Renaissance of Star Wars merchandise (ie pre 95), my room would probably be filled to the brim with LOTR merchandise right now. I still hold Star Wars near and dear to my heart, but the LOTR trilogy shows that you can have awesome, realistic effects in a movie, and still have a strong heart and soul on screen, quite unlike the prequels....
Maybe I'll luck out and win the lottery. If I do, Im going to go LOTR crazy...
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At my screening people cheered Spidey 2 and laughed at loud after the Punisher. It looks ridiculous to me. I'm seeing it tomorrow afternoon again as well. Can't wait.
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A truly magnificent work of art! Loved it! The battles are just incredible, the cinematography is breathtaking, the acting is superb, the whole thing was just beautiful. What more can you say? I could've gone for longer as well, but I know many people who's bladders wouldn't have made it. We'll just have to wait for the EE version to come out soon, and enjoy it in the comfort of our own homes, with our favorite toilet right nearby! :P
Granted the Hobbit movie will undoubtedly show up several years down the road, which is probably why they played up the Bilbo footage at the end of ROTK (to round out the entire story), but I was so sad to have to say goodbye to Middle Earth and its cast of characters in the waning moments of this film. I didn't want it to end!
and the ultimate trilogy edition (the entire trilogy will be released as a set, with even more material added).
Is this just an educated or hopeful guess Wookiee, or have you actually heard legitimate proof of that somewhere and if so, where? While I'd LOVE to get even more footage, I'll be a tad bummed that I've got 3 EE sets sitting around as extras if a giant boxset gets released later on down the line.
Perhaps it's something that won't happen until Tolkien's complete Middle Earth boxset can be truly complete - with the inclusion of The Hobbit movie too. I guess I can see that happening. Makes good sense!
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Im trying to find the link, it was posted in the forums at lordoftheringsguide.com. Basically someone at New Line (someone of seeming importance that would legitimately know) hinted that a longer complete trilogy set would come out sometime in 2005, with more footage added.
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Sorry, I guess it didnt actually say new stuff would be added, it is just described as "vast, gigantic"
http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/columnists/story.asp?id=229227BA-551B-4525-8524-6EED7735C2D2
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http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20031217 (http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20031217)
I was feeling the same way as Brent, Cole, and Francis.
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I caught the noon showing of Return of the King at the Rave theatre in Birmingham. The funny thing is that there were only about 6 people in the theatre because everyone had walked into the first of two screens showing the movie at the same time (doh!) - which made it a much more enjoyable experience for us in the second showing.
Having not read the books, everything here was fresh to me and I only had guesses as to how the movie was going to end. So take that into consideration when I say that this movie is the best movie I've seen this year.
Mild spoilers
Return Of The King really kicked *** . Easily the best movie I've seen in the theatres since Two Towers, I'll probably be going in to watch this again just to show my appreciation.
Unlike movies like T3 or X2, where its sort of 'Eh' a day or two after seeing it, several scenes in ROTK have stuck in my head a day after seeing it. Most of the amazing scenes come from the big battle at the end, specially where the Riders of Rohan attack the flank of the Orcs and confront those big elephant *******s. The fight with the spider ******* (Bosheilia? I couldn't make out what the hell they called her.) was really creepy, and I'm not even all that scared of spiders. One of the coolest little scenes is where the Orcs do a cool 'D-Day' like invasion into the outter wall place (forgot the name), using little boats with dropping planks.
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The only flaws in the movie, in my opinion, are :
The scene with Legolas climbing up the elephant ******* was very poorly CG'd... As I was watching it I couldn't beleive the CG guys didn't have Legolas climbing the thing by sticking arrows into the elephant *******'s legs like a rock climber. Instead, Legolas just effortlessly scales the elephant *******, fighting off the bad guys with his Elf-aim, and somehow keeps his balance as he kills the thing and (surprisingly to me) survives as it crashes to the ground... I dunno, it just didn't look well done to me. Too fake.
Another big flaw is that the movie ends about 4 times... The screen goes black and the music fades, but then opens right back up to another scene. Poorly done, I think.
I'll probably think of a few more parts that I didn't like, but those are the only ones that really stood out after the first viewing.
Spoilers done
Reward the cast/crew of the LOTR movies by seeing this movie at least twice... Maybe then other movie makers will catch a clue and start making more than just 'decent' stuff.
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The scene with Legolas climbing up the elephant ******* was very poorly CG'd... As I was watching it I couldn't beleive the CG guys didn't have Legolas climbing the thing by sticking arrows into the elephant *******'s legs like a rock climber. Instead, Legolas just effortlessly scales the elephant *******, fighting off the bad guys with his Elf-aim, and somehow keeps his balance as he kills the thing and (surprisingly to me) survives as it crashes to the ground... I dunno, it just didn't look well done to me. Too fake.
Yeah, there was some questionable CG in that scene, but it sounds like a lot of people really loved that part. But Legolas didn't just climb right up the creature with no assistance. If you watch closely, he's actually climbing up all the arrows that are already stuck in it, using them like a ladder of sorts. So that makes a little more sense at least.
But I agree that it looked a little unbelievable that once he got to the top he had no trouble maintaining his balance at all, despite the more than rough ride...
As for the smooth landing, well, you should've already known by that point Brad that Legolas, Gimli, and Aragorn are pretty much indestructable. They could've probably beat entire armies just between the three of them... :P
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The Legolas stuff is an example of something that would probably make more sense after reading the books. If I understand correctly (from what other readers have told me), Elves are extraordinarily (beyond any human's abilities) dextrous, which allows for that kind of stuff. So while it may seem unbelievable, it remains in the context of the books.
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I caught a second show last night. Loved it even more because I wasn't so tired.
While Legolas was taking down that mumakil, some guy uttered 'bullsh--'. This was probably the same guy that shouted 'IS THAT IT?' at the end of FOTR.
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Just wanted to share my new signature.
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That has got to be one of the best quotes ever.
Who said that? Greg, or Gregg?
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"As for peter Jackson he gets way to much credit, all he does is transform the book onto the screen with the help of a few others, big deal." - Movie Critic GNT
In my own critical opinion....what a twit! He doesn't even know the proper form of the word TOO, a descriptive word, as in "GNT posts way TOO much".
As for Peter Jackson: PJ has really taken Tolkienn's vision and made it reality on screen. He's done so through an extraordinary effort, having done a number of things never done before in major motion pictures. Like?
-Using multiple units shooting footage simultaneously and using satellite hookups not only to communicate, but also to direct and view dailies from a completely remote location.
-Using new technology in digital animation like WETA's Massive software which enabled those immense battles.
-He and his wife lent such a complete air of devotion to the essence of the story due to their own fandom and love of Professor Tolkienn's work.
-He took 3 years to prepare for the filming of this trilogy, including building working sets of Edoras and Hobbiton that took nearly a year to complete.
-His treatment was so deadon that he got the funding upfront for all three films from New Line Cinema.
-Gathering together the resources and talent to craft one of the best CG characters ever seen on the big screen in the form of Gollum.
Speaking as someone who works in television, and knows what massive efforts go into a television production, I can say with an extreme level of certainty that the film achievements of The Lord Of The Rings trilogy have been nothing short of miraculous AND revolutionary. It takes a leader, in the form of a director and executive producer like Peter Jackson to make something like that happen. Is the series perfect? No, but I put the challenge to anyone to make a better rendition than Peter Jackson and crew have.
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Oh, that GNT. I'm willing to bet he thought the Matrix sequels were the greatest things ever committed to celluloid too.
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I think he liked them, but can't remember for sure.
That statement above makes no sense. Without Peter Jackson, there would be no LOTR films. Period. Someone else could have directed them, but the vision Jackson has that informs every frame would be gone. Yeah, Jackson did nothing. He only devoted seven years of his life to 20 hour days to make this thing. ::)
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Yeah, if converting written word into moving pictures was easy, every single comic book movie out there would be a blockbuster, every movie with any basis on a book would blow away all others. There are a BUNCH of excellent books out there that have incredibly crappy movie counterparts...
Heck, just take a look at the animated Lord of the Rings (Hobbit and ROTK were ok). That movie was deplorable!
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So if that is definitely the case, where are the epic films like "The Odyssey", or "The Illiad"?
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Greg(g) is just a stupid 16 year old kid with too much time on his hands.
Anycrap, about Jackson -
The difference between Jackson and just about every other director out there is that Jackson seems to be a fan of the subject of the movies he's working on. Sort of like George Lucas in 1977, Jackson gives a damn about how the movies turns out, not how much the movie turns out. Maybe if George Lucas was still a fan of his creation in 1999, we'd have seen a fantastic Episode 1. Just my Thoughts.
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I'm with you. It's kind of sad, because after totally digesting the LOTR Trilogy, and Star Wars today, I've had this epiphany that's making me realize how cheated I feel with the PT, and it's making me almost totally Anti-SW.
Can't say I don't like it though, it's made for some heated debates.
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ROTK pushed me over the threshold in regards to how I feel about the Prequel Trilogy. A lot of love and thought was obviously put into creating LOTR, something that seemingly cant be said about the PT. Even without comparing the PT to LOTR, the PT movies still just aren't thought evoking, nor do they bring out the same emotions as the OT.
I hope all of this success doesn't spoil Peter Jackson. I'd hate to see The Hobbit turn out like the PT. Although I very sincerely doubt that would ever happen, and it's good to know that pretty much everyone involved in LOTR wants to be part of The Hobbit.
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The only thing really missing from the PT is heart. The OT and obivously LOTR have it in spades, but for all the energy Lucas devotes to the technical side, if he spared not even half that for the story and characters, these would be vastly different films. By different I mean better, of course. :'(
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Its funny to me that many of you are posting this about the PT, because I have been feeling the same way lately...especially after seeing ROTK on Saturday. That movie was, once again, amazing. Personally, I thought all three films were perfect...and would definitely rank them behind only the OT as my favorite movies of all time. Although I am most definitely still looking forward to Episode III, I think it is kind of obvious anymore that the LOTR trilogy really puts the PT to shame. For me, at least, it evokes the same type of "magic" that the Star Wars OT had. I am still a Star Wars fan, first and foremost, but dedication to that aside, I think most would admit that the LOTR movies are much better than what we have seen with the PT. It has even made me question my collecting (which is off-topic a bit here, sorry), and consider collecting OT-only (for the most part), and picking up a few more LOTR items. I probably wouldn't be able to do that, and most likely will be there at midnight for Episode III toys, but it does make me consider it at times. I don't think I've ever been "taken away" by movies as much as the Star Wars OT, and the LOTR trilogy. Anyways...to sum it up...great movie, and a great ending to the trilogy. I agree with those that posted above, it was kind of sad to see it end.
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Greg(g) is just a stupid 16 year old kid with too much time on his hands.
18 actually... ;)
Looks like a lot of you are reiterating what I said after first watching FOTR, and again after seeing TTT (and obviously even more now with ROTK) - that the LOTR Trilogy was everything that I was hoping and expecting the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy to be, but it unfortunately wasn't. Not even close. This is my new Trilogy. The PT Trilogy barely even counts in my book. But the OT is still on top by a hair, just due to the nostalgia, and the quarter century connection that I've had with it. I just pray that good ol' Uncle George doesn't tinker with the OT any further, ala the Special Editions, but I'm afraid "the artist's painting" is still yet to be finalized... Just give me the ORIGINAL OT on DVD, and then tinker with it all you want! That's all I ask...
I think pretty much my only interest in the Prequels so far, is just that they are a part of the Star Wars saga as a whole, and bring to light some of the back story for the OT. But if the OT was never released, and just the Prequels were, I probably wouldn't care much more for them than I do any other Summer blockbuster, like Spiderman. And I most definitely would not be collecting any Star Wars toys, collectibles, or various other stuff.
Brian, though I'm not entirely at the "collect only OT" point since I'm still a 4" completist with everything, I have scaled back most of my other Star Wars collecting subsets to only OT - like Legos, Action Fleet/Micro Machines, and several others. Still sticking with the Prequel 4"ers though, despite a few times when I considered giving them the axe too.
Those are some good points that Brad made there as well. Jackson cares about his creation. He also cares what the fans think of his creation. Lucas has definitely shown that he doesn't care much what the fans think, simply by not releasing the original versions of the OT on DVD. Jackson wants so badly to tell the full stories, and to tell them right, that he's been releasing 3 - 3.25 hour movies, only to follow them up with even longer extended edition DVDs. That says everything to me right there!
Can you even imagine Lucas contemplating such a thing? No way. He won't even go beyond the dreaded 2.25 hour mark for his movies, which is downright sad considering there's so much more story to be told, and characters and subplots to more properly develop. It honestly makes me angry, disappointed, and even embarrassed to see what Peter Jackson brings to the fans versus what Lucas gives us (with the Prequels). It's as lopsided a contest as could be! Not to mention Jackson had the balls to film his entire Trilogy at once, and can manage to pump 'em out at one per year, while lucas needs 3 years a piece, just to give all the computer guys time to creat 75% of his movies.
A lot of people say that Lucas just uses the Prequels as a giant ad for his line of toys. I don't think that's really true. I think he uses it as a giant ad for what he can do as far as CG filmmaking goes. He likes to show off his special effects, completely CG environments, and his CG characters - which pale in comparison to Gollum in LOTR. I feel like I'm watching a cartoon much of the time with the Prequels. As good as some of the stuff looks, I'm constantly reminding myself that none of it's really even there...
LOTR: Good. Very good.
SW Prequels: Bad. Very bad.
SW OT: 8)
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Saw it yesterday (finally :P), great work as described above very well by everyone.
Instead of repeating my Thoughts? on the movie itself I thought I'd share two or three movie theater experiences.
We were in my wife hometown in rural Minnesota population of around 3000. We went to the matinee yesterday at 4:00 and have went to other movies there (Spiderman, Episode II with her cousins) So I thought we wouldn't have to worry about getting tickets etc. Boy was I wrong....the show was PACKED, on a Sunday afternoon in podunk Minnesota. I was awestruck, I remember Titanic being like that back in the day but nothing else even comes close
The movie started (Harry Potter, Punisher and The Craptacular looking Mask 2 were the only trailers I remembered) and the lady behind me starting whispering to her husband in the first scene "Who's that now" "What did he do again" etc. I almost blew a gasket, but luckily for her she shut up after that and what could have been a horrible experience turned into a pretty fun and memorable afternoon.
People applauded at the end, it was fun and showed to me the broad appeal that these movies have...my hats off to Peter Jackson and everyone else involved with the making of these movies...I just think of it how lucky we were to be around to see and appreciated 2 master Franchises come to life in our life time
I also want address the whole Hobbits are gay vibe I've seen in a bunch of threads around the net...I didn't see or get that at all. I saw it as Sam and Frodo sharing a bond that would never, ever be broken. They had gone to hell and survived, something that changed them for the rest of their lives and only they themselves knew that. Tolkein was a WWI vet and I think that was what he was trying to convey in the whole Fellowship/friendship/love bond that they all shared. People will think what they want to think but I think that whole thought is pretty asinine.
I'll also admit to shedding some tears, which I will proudly add to my list, first during the CHiPs scene and second during the "You bow to noone" scene.
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Like the rest of the geeks in the crowd, I too found myself drawing comparisons with LOTR and the SW OT/PT.
I confess I had to sit too close to the screen, so some of ROTK was lost on me in a blur of really big, well, blurry things. Unfortunate to be sure.
Clearly the LOTR trilogy has characters with heart, something seemingly lacking in the PT. But I differ somewhat in my opinions, at least as of today and some reflection last evening.
LOTR is clearly an engaging saga with well defined good and evil. This was evident in the OT. With the PT, we seem to lose the evil characters quite quickly, Maul and Jango, so we cannot see them evolve. Similarly, the already evil characters we already know are kind of boring in the PT. Oh, we know Palpatine will be one nasty dude fairly shortly and I really hope that is brought to the fore in III, but Saruman is the parallel. No waiting,no (non-existent) suspense to see the evil. Saruman is there, he bad, end o story. Gollum is a much more interesting contrast.
I found myself last night thinking that the LOTR saga in some ways lacked a defining hero. Now before you beat me with sticks, it's only my opinion. Legolas (pretty) and Gimli (not) make for a nifty duo and some fine comic relief. Frodo is the tragic lead and the rest of the Hobbits evolve quite spectacularly on film. Gandalf is Obi, mature but active and not self sacrificing Obi. Aragorn (the stud) is fine, but just seemed to lack dynacism to me in this last film.
Tangentially I think we all forget the schlockiness of the OT. It was, as Lucas intended, a throwback to the Saturday afternoon sequels of yesteryear. Sure, it was updated with magnificent special effects, but it was the story that captured your attention. The PT sorely lacks that. Yes, we get to see the evolution of Anakin, but apparently that is not enough. It's cool to watch that, but we need more and that is what's missing. Mace is a cool character and Yoda is a treat to watch but other than that, they seem to be disconnected and drag, all the while lacking heart.
To end this pointless ramble I will point out something. When I went to see The Phantom Menace (which I typicaly rank last) I was pumped. It was so cool. As I watched the movie, I was pumped. All the way to Vader's breathing at the end of the credits, I was pumped. The second time I saw it I was pumped. I loved so many parts of it. It's only after long hours of reflection that I did not enjoy it so much.
Anyway, yeah, what Matt said.
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Brian, though I'm not entirely at the "collect only OT" point since I'm still a 4" completist with everything, I have scaled back most of my other Star Wars collecting subsets to only OT - like Legos, Action Fleet/Micro Machines, and several others. Still sticking with the Prequel 4"ers though, despite a few times when I considered giving them the axe too.
I haven't quite "jumped ship" yet either on the prequel 4" figures, and I doubt that I will when it actually comes down to it. Actually with what we have seen coming for 2004, it probably won't be much of an issue as it looks to be a strong OT year anyways (which is fine with me).
I have really enjoyed reading everyone's opinions on this LOTR vs. SW (PT or OT) debate. Although, when it comes down to it, they are different movies...they are still the same in many ways too. I think the comparisons are obviously drawn because LOTR is the kind of magical trilogy that we had in our youth with the OT. The Star Wars OT will always be first with me, but LOTR has gained ground, and will probably always be right behind it in my favorite movies. I kind of agree with the thought that the PT is good for providing backstory, etc. To be honest, I don't know if I would have noticed some of the shortcomings of the PT so far if it wasn't for Lord of the Rings. I'm not the biggest Phantom of the Menace fan, but I was all about Attack of the Clones when it first came out. I thought it was one of the best Star Wars movies at first, and continued to go back to see it in the theatre. Then the year went on, and eventually I got to the Two Towers. That made me realize how much AOTC was really lacking, after seeing a movie like TT. I still enjoy AOTC, but to be honest, I don't watch the DVD all that much. If anything, I'm sticking in OT VHS tapes, or obviously, the LOTR movies as well.
I am glad to see others feel the same way as I do. At first, when I saw the Two Towers, I almost felt "bad" as a Star Wars fan thinking or saying that I have been enjoying the Lord of the Rings movies better than the Prequel Trilogy. I know that might sound silly, but for some reason I felt like I should like Star Wars more...because I'm a Star Wars fan. I realize now that the magic, for me, truly lies in the Original Trilogy, and in the present day, with the LOTR trilogy. Don't get me wrong, I'm still really looking forward to Episode III, and I'll be there opening day, but no matter how good it is, I still don't think it will help the whole Prequel Trilogy live up to what we were looking for. Sometimes I think that the media influences people's thoughts that "Star Wars sucks" as it seems we have heard more often with the PT, but the fact that they don't compare to the OT, or to their competition of today (LOTR). Sometimes you can almost see that people are longing for the OT-style, as it seems more people like the prequels as more OT characters are glimpsed or introduced. Obi-Wan, Yoda, the droids, and soon to be Chewbacca....I think remind us of the "good ole days".
Anyways...I'm rambling now...but it has been nice reading some of your thoughts on this, and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who feels this way. I guess we probably shouldn't compare the movies, but it is hard not to sometimes. I'm still glad we've got another Star Wars film on the way, but almost equally I'm said that the LOTR trilogy is over. But, I guess we're lucky to have lived in the time to catch both classics....Star Wars and Lord of the Rings :).
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I will say this about the gay thing : it didn't cross my mind until they were stranded on the rock together... I haven't read the books so I didn't know what was going to happen, but I didn't expect a kiss or anything.
I think anyone who walks out of ROTK saying 'I wonder if they were gay', must have slept through the rest of the movie. I was too busy thinking about those cool eagle/hawk thingies.
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I can't believe anyone thought that for a second. A lot of Tolkien's perspective on "The War Of The Ring" came from his experiences in the first World War. Frodo and Sam's relationship is based on that between an English army officer (Frodo) and his Sergeant or aide (Sam). Both are usually from different social classes, as are Sam and Frodo. However, their collective experience has drawn them together due to the horrifying circumstances. That brings about a type of closeness that can't be explained to most people. The only way I think you can even begin to understand that kind of close relationship without living it is to watch something like the HBO miniseries "Band Of Brothers". Or, just read Henry the 5th's speech in Shakespeare's work on the eve of the English battle with the French at Agincourt on St. Crispin's day.
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Tolkien (nor Jackson) never intended a gay subtext to Frodo and Sam's relationship but clearly some people are finding it. This isn't exclusive to LOTR, and I think it's a case of what you bring to it. I personally don't see it (more concerned with Eowyn).
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If the only criticism the tards can find is 'Frodo and Sam were gay' then I'd say they're reaching for criticism. Besides, they're probably little 15 year old jerkwads who spend too much time on the internet anyway. But that's just me.
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alternate occurrence - FOTR (http://lazybastard.ehuna.org/archives/000085.html#000085)
Content warning in place for you and your younguns. Enjoy.
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Other nonsense (http://www.zovakware.com/tests/lordoftherings.htm) No warning required here. Legolas ::)
Anti-ring? (http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/film/50reasons.html)
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True, true. So true.
http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20031227 (http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20031227)
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Saw it 3 times already...great movie. In my opinion better than either Star Wars trilogy (yes even the original one). I have faith in Episode III though...
My butt is a little sore from sitting so much and my bladder almost blew up last time
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Malaysia has the bootleg...not the Screener transfer though (TTT version was excellent quality and a "steal" at $10), I think I'll wait to see if the screener comes
http://movies-shop.cjb.net/
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Ancient thread. Smell the must.
Anyway, some screencaps of the extended Return of the King.
Slight spoilers.
(http://www.dvdtown.com/media/screenshots/big/12523_13.jpg)
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(http://www.dvdtown.com/media/screenshots/big/12523_10.jpg)
Linky. (http://www.dvdtown.com/screenshots/lordoftheringsreturnoftheking-/12523/)
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Cool. Thanks Ben! I've been meaning to bump this thread up for a while now, in giddy anticipation of the Extended Edition's upcoming release. What's the date on that again? I've been holding off on watching the previous two EE's for a while, just so I can watch all the EE's together in a day long marathon when ROTK finally gets released. Can't wait to see all the added footage. Gonna be a thing of beauty... 8)
Have I mentioned how I wished Peter Jackson had directed the Prequels? Or how I wish the Prequels were even half as good as the LOTR Trilogy was? Or that the LOTR Trilogy was everything that I was hoping the Prequels would be?
Yeah, I thought so... :-\
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Im drooling with anticipation like everyone else on this. Looking forward to Christopher Lee footage the most. On a side note, I hope all the BS about rights can be settled so Jackson can film the Hobbit some day. It is such a great stand alone part of Middle Earth. Plus it would look awesome with Jackson filming.
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Cool. Thanks Ben! I've been meaning to bump this thread up for a while now, in giddy anticipation of the Extended Edition's upcoming release. What's the date on that again? I've been holding off on watching the previous two EE's for a while, just so I can watch all the EE's together in a day long marathon when ROTK finally gets released. Can't wait to see all the added footage. Gonna be a thing of beauty... 8)
Have I mentioned how I wished Peter Jackson had directed the Prequels? Or how I wish the Prequels were even half as good as the LOTR Trilogy was? Or that the LOTR Trilogy was everything that I was hoping the Prequels would be?
Yeah, I thought so... :-\
I think this will be available December 14, so I may ask for it for a Christmas gift. Just have to make sure they (my mother) gets the giftset with the Minas Tirith stashbox.
I'm going to watch the Two Towers EE tonight, in my giddy anticipation. ;D
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Looking forward to Christopher Lee footage the most.
Me too, along with the Witch King-Gandalf fight, the Mouth of Sauron, the House of Healing, etc., etc., etc. ;)
I also hope they put Chris Lee in the credits with a drawing like they did for all the other players in the original release. Was kind of pissed he wasn't included. Hopefully PJ makes up for it.
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I can't wait to see this one either, its on my Christmas list so I won't be able to see it for a couple of weeks but its gonna rock!
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Cool that they are bringing back Saruman for the extended release. I wonder if that means they'll include the "WScouring of the Shire"?
I can't wait for this one, either!
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No Scouring of the Shire, and I can agree with Jackson on that decision, I can do with out seeing it. It would probably add another hour of time to it and its not necessary
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Yeah, PJ never filmed the Scouring of the Shire. His homage to it was in FOTR when Frodo looks into the pool in and sees Hobbits (including Sam) being rounded up by Orcs.
Plus this shot is probably his homage to the wheel that ultimately ends Saruman's life in the book.
(http://www.dvdtown.com/media/screenshots/big/12523_12.jpg)
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Just in case you haven't seen the preview video, here is the link (http://progressive2.stream.aol.com/newline/gl/newline/lordoftherings/ReturnOfTheKing/videos/LOTR_ROTK_Extend_700_dl.mov).
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http://www.lordoftherings.net/
Just in case you didn't see it in the DVD thread, a 6 minute preview of ROTK: EE.
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Man oh man oh man, I just cannot wait to see this, I also am fully assured that this IS the greatest work of film ever, depth, effects, adaptation, acting, score, directing, everything...
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http://www.lordoftherings.net/
Just in case you didn't see it in the DVD thread, a 6 minute preview of ROTK: EE.
Wow, that looks awesome. I can't wait for this thing. Seems like it's been years since this was in the theater. I haven't watched the regular ROTK DVD, 'cause the EE is the only one that "counts" to me.
Plus, I've been waiting several years now to just spend an entire Saturday watching all three EEs back-to-back-to-back. Gonna be an amazing theatrical experience, and incredible to watch the ENTIRE story unfold all together. Damn, I'm giddy with anticipation! 8)
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I'll be adding The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Special Extended Edition) DVDs to my Christmas List. If anyone has forgotten, that's 12 discs worth in one slipcase.
:o
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I'll be adding The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Special Extended Edition) DVDs to my Christmas List. If anyone has forgotten, that's 12 discs worth in one slipcase.
Wait, wait, wait a second here... Are you saying they're gonna be releasing a boxset of all three EEs together? I don't follow the DVD news too religiously, but that's the first I've heard of it (though I assumed they would probably do that eventually).
I REALLY hope they don't add anything into that set that isn't otherwise available in the other three EE sets seperately. Anyone know the details on this thing? Or is Brad just talkin' out of his ass?! :P
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>:( (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000654ZK0/103-1018889-9341446?v=glance&s=dvd&n=10337131&vi=tech-info)
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http://www.lordoftherings.net/
Just in case you didn't see it in the DVD thread, a 6 minute preview of ROTK: EE.
Sweet.
I can't decide if I should buy this on Dec. 14th or wait for it as a Christmas gift.
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Bought it yesterday and told the wife to get home early so we weren't up until pass my bedtime. Absolutely amazing. The added scenes really added to an already great movie. More Army of the Dead, Corsair pirates, Siege on Minas Tirith, Battle of the Pelannor Fields and March to the Black Gate. Really enjoyed the added scene with Saruman and Wormtongue (in fact, I watched just that scene before the wife got home) and Mouth of Sauron - too short though, could have been longer. And the Witch King vs. Gandalf fight really shows how much of a bad ass the WK was.
I'm already planning an all day event after I get my big screen TV and watching the EE back to back to back. Can't wait.
And there are two Easter Eggs this time, both accessed the same way as one the previous EEs. Go the scene selection option and go to the last page. Scroll down until you see the one ring at the bottom of the screen and select it. Disc 1 is a interview Dominic M. (Merry) does with Elijah (Frodo). Elijah doesn't know it's Dom and thinks he's some German reporter doing a regular interview. Pretty funny stuff. Disc 2 is from the 2004 MTV movie awards where Ben Stiller and Vince Vaughn try to convince PJ to do a sequel to the trilogy.
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I can't believe I forgot to buy this. I was at Best Buy yesterday. >:(
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http://www.lordoftherings.net/
Just in case you didn't see it in the DVD thread, a 6 minute preview of ROTK: EE.
Sweet.
I can't decide if I should buy this on Dec. 14th or wait for it as a Christmas gift.
Simple solution: buy it for your significant other, like I did. Hee, hee. Actually, she really wants these movies. Honest.
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I rushed out and bought it Tuesday morning. Couldn't wait, after all. :)
Of course, I haven't been able to find the four hours to watch it, but I have soaked in the Creating The LOTR Symphony disc that came with the gift set, and that was pretty neat.
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I'll be adding The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Special Extended Edition) DVDs to my Christmas List. If anyone has forgotten, that's 12 discs worth in one slipcase.
Wait, wait, wait a second here... Are you saying they're gonna be releasing a boxset of all three EEs together? I don't follow the DVD news too religiously, but that's the first I've heard of it (though I assumed they would probably do that eventually).
I REALLY hope they don't add anything into that set that isn't otherwise available in the other three EE sets seperately. Anyone know the details on this thing? Or is Brad just talkin' out of his ass?! :P
So, is there a 12 disc set? Or was Brad butt talking [again]?
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Yep, there is indeed a 12-disc set. It's the same discs that came with the individual EEs, but there's a slip case to store them all. There's no extra footage as far as i can tell.
Link (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002VJT2C/qid=1103235747/ref=pd_ka_1/026-4680351-7350842)
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So...we've watched it up to the point where Sam and Frodo hit the plains or Mordor and the other guys march on the Black Gate
Three major changes I noticed and not sure I really liked:
#1 The confrontation of the Witchking and Gandalf while pretty sweet (the staff shattering was great!) It just didn't need to be there IMO.
#2 The Witchking's Death is now no longer shown on screen...what's the deal with that? I thought the regular cut showed it rather nicely and was pretty faithful to the book if I remember right. And then they cut in Goonies guy going after Eowyn again it didn't make much sense and I thought the battle was a little more confused (still love those Oliphants though!). Then they cut in the Houses of Healing scene all the while Pippin is out looking for Merry on the battle field. That made no sense either.
In fact...I think the new edit sort of sucks and is the one glaring addition that was changed in all 3 movies that I didn't really like at all. The rest of the stuff was great though.
#3 The Faramir/Denethor burn baby burn scene took place in the proper book location now and the extended bits show them walking to the Halls. But they still showed Denethor leaping off the cliff probably a mile from where he set himself on fire. Most people probably wouldn't catch that but I thought it was dumb to change Part A and leave part B be the same.
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I agree with your #3. I think he would have burned to a crisp before he reached the cliff.
It does make for a great shot though, regardless of continuity.
I would like to get that song from the Houses of Healing on CD.
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Got my ROTK DVD for Christmas as well. Actually, Patty's cousins screwed up and got me the regular theatrical version, but we took it to Best Buy afterwards, and they did an EVEN EXCHANGE for the EE. I was pretty shocked (and obviously thrilled) about that...
So anyway, I haven't watched it yet, 'cause I want to have an EE marathon viewing party with myself - all 3 EE's in a row. Yes, I'm perfectly capable of planting myself on the coach for about 12 straight hours! ;)
Only problem was having to get rid of the wife for the day, so I could enjoy them uninterrupted, and without any "hassles" from the Mrs. So I kindly suggested she go out of town for the weekend to hang out with some friends, and she obliged. So this Saturday, the fun begins! Can't wait.
I'm a little disappointed in reading Scott's comments about the removal of the Witch King's death though. What's up with that? :-\
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Well...they show her poking the sword in the head and him melting but then they cut away to something else.
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Well...they show her poking the sword in the head and him melting but then they cut away to something else.
Am I missing something? Isn't that how it happened in the original release?
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Yeah but then there was a big explosion deal that lit up the sky which sort of signalled the turning point of the battle
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Oh. Don't remember the sky lighting up, but it's been awhile since I've watched the original.
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We watched this over Christmas-time, and I thought something seemed different at that part as well. I couldn't place it for sure either, since we hadn't seen the theatrical version for a little while. All in all though, it was good, I always look forward to the extended editions and squeezing a little bit more out of the LOTR franchise...at least until the Hobbit gets made ;). Missed not having a new one to go to this past December :).
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Perhaps I'm confusing myself on this one (I did the same thing with the ANH DVD) and I'm crossing scenes up with the light shooting to the sky when they leave Minus Morgul
I still think the battle is messed up though editing wise...showing the Houses of Healing stuff before Pippin finds Merry is dumb (since Merry needs to be in the HoH too)
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OK, now that Scott's officially confused as to the Witch King scene, can someone who has both versions (theatrical and EE) pop them in and tell us if there's a difference or not?
Or is there a good LOTR site that lists all the EE differences?
BTW, I ordered my loose EE boxset case a couple weeks ago, so hopefully that shows up in the next month or so, so I can have the "complete" boxset. Anyone else order that thing for $3? Pretty reasonable deal, I think.
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OK, now that Scott's officially confused as to the Witch King scene, can someone who has both versions (theatrical and EE) pop them in and tell us if there's a difference or not?
Or is there a good LOTR site that lists all the EE differences?
BTW, I ordered my loose EE boxset case a couple weeks ago, so hopefully that shows up in the next month or so, so I can have the "complete" boxset. Anyone else order that thing for $3? Pretty reasonable deal, I think.
What did you order for $3?
I'm trying to save up for the 12 disc set...
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What did you order for $3?
Just the empty slipcase box thing, to house the 3 EE's (and turn them into a "boxset"). It's the same thing as the now available boxset at retail, but just for all of us who have all three of the EE's already (but not the box).
Get it?
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Saw this on Bloody-Disgusting.com
You can order the EE Slip Case cover through NewLineShop.com here:
http://www.lotrdvdbox.com/
Its free except for the $3 shipping charge
Thanks can be directed to me and I'll pass them along to the great unknown
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What did you order for $3?
Just the empty slipcase box thing, to house the 3 EE's (and turn them into a "boxset"). It's the same thing as the now available boxset at retail, but just for all of us who have all three of the EE's already (but not the box).
Get it?
Got it.
I still need the dvd's... If they start offering one that comes with the dvd's for $3, will you let me know? >:(
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I still need the dvd's...
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(that's for participating in the slipcase discussion without owning the EEs, and even moreso for not having the EEs in the first place!)
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On the $3 slipcase, there's one catch. Gotta have a credit card (no debits it says) which sucks for those without. And one per household... I had a hell of a time getting one for my brother. Darn site gave me fits.
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Got my ROTK DVD for Christmas as well... So anyway, I haven't watched it yet, 'cause I want to have an EE marathon viewing party with myself - all 3 EE's in a row. Yes, I'm perfectly capable of planting myself on the coach for about 12 straight hours! ;)
So, that was FUN! Did the 11.5 hour marathon on Saturday night/morning, from 6:15pm to about 5:30am. Took a couple lightning quick pisses along the way, and skipped the end credits of the first two (of course), but other than that, I made it all the way straight through them! Very cool seeing them all together like that, as if they were all one continuous movie.
Only downfall is that the "superhero" status of the heroes is even more pronounced, since you're seeing Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli kill hundreds and hundreds of bad guys with barely a scratch - in battle after battle after battle. No idea what Boromir's problem was... ::)
So, has anyone else watched them all the way through like that? I think Beth came close, since she went to the Trilogy Tuesday for the ROTK's theatrical release, but technically she came up a little short on ROTK by 50 minutes, since it wasn't the EE. ;)
Anyway, highly recommended for you Super Couch Potatoes out there!
Definitely more fun than Tidal Pools, that's for sure... (on the off chance someone here may have been doing that instead) :P
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You don't need a credit card...if you buy the ROTK EE you get a booklet inside to order the case. I sent a cheque for $3 as payment.
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When was the last time you watched any of the LOTR movies? Just watched the FOTR:EE and man oh man does that movie kick ass. They all do but Fellowship may be my favorite of the 3
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Watched them all during the fall as I was packing stuff up. Indeed very good movies.
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I watched the EE trilogy sometime Holiday 2004/early 2005 after I got the ROTK EE for that Xmas. Much more powerful when you watch them all in a row. I almost cracked up at several particularly moving points. *sniffle*
I really wanted to pull an all-day marathon over Xmas break this year, but I never got around to it. Maybe over spring break or something.
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We were actually going to bust out one of the EEs this weekend, but we ended up running out of time to do that. You really need a good afternoon (or day) to get it all in. I watched FOTR and TTT when they were playing on TNT the last couple months, just have to at least watch some of it every time they show it on TV, just like the Star Wars OT. Great movies.
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I always have these movies in my "morale bag" when I go on alert. If it's particularly quiet, and no good sports to watch, I'll pop one of them in. I managed to get through 2 and a half of the EE movies on alert once.
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I haven't watched the movies since I did the EE marathon around the same time as JediMAC. I really want to do the Marathon again, I just have to find the time.
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I really want to do the Marathon again, I just have to find the time.
Same here. Now that I finally have a Surround Sound system, I need to check out the DTS tracks on these.
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I only got a DTS system at Christmas, along with a LCD tv. The Nazgul flying around the room scared the **** out of me - but only in a good way ;)
I totally failed to watch them all in a row and only skipped to the bits I thought would look or sound good. While I was doing that I discovered that the Midgewater Marshes (?) section in FOTR was amazing in DTS with all the bugs buzzing around. Makes me wonder what other cool stuff I've missed :-[.
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Mental note....if I ever visit Rob, don't sit on the couch. :o
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I trust you all know LOTR is comeing out later this year on blu-ray and hi-def DVD. Thats going to be sweet, I hope its the 'ulitimate collection' with all those deleted scenes we never got, and were not on the EE.
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Yes, I've often thought that the Lord of the Rings movies just weren't long enough, even in their extended forms. "What can be done to make them longer?" is a question I've pondered many a time.
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Anyone going to be reading this? I will eventually, but probably not in 2 weeks...(damn you David Copperfield and your 700+ pages!)
Summary (some SPOILERS) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Children_of_H%C3%BArin)
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I trust you all know LOTR is comeing out later this year on blu-ray and hi-def DVD. Thats going to be sweet, I hope its the 'ulitimate collection' with all those deleted scenes we never got, and were not on the EE.
Note to self:
Never believe anything Annatar says, ever again.
>:(
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Never believe anything Annatar says, ever again.
Why did you start in the first place?
Kevin
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Anyone going to be reading this? I will eventually, but probably not in 2 weeks...(damn you David Copperfield and your 700+ pages!)
Summary (some SPOILERS) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Children_of_H%C3%BArin)
Yes, I will be reading this and getting it when it comes out.
As far as the blue rays, IF there is not more extended I will pass and wait for what PJ called the anniversary additions that will have more of the deleted scenes on them.
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I just finished this book yesterday. Most Depressing. Book. Ever.
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Not a very good book then? :-\
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It was good, but without ruining it....don't expect to have the same feeling of happiness like when you finished the Hobbit or Return of the King.
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I have to say that in reality, yes, the book is not a happy ending but if your a die hard LOTR fan, you know that from the HOME series and from the Smill. Having said that, I think Turin is perhaps the most realistic figure for a human. The book without giving it away
SPOILER
is in reality a tragedy and as such, it is about how choice and pride lead to destruction.
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Old thread bump here....I was watching some of the LOTR Trilogy marathon on TNT this weekend, and it got me to wondering: If/when you decide to watch the LOTR movies these days, do you watch the extended editions or just the regular theatrical version DVDs? Or do you just "catch them when they're on TV" or skip them entirely? I don't know that I've actually watched the DVDs for quite awhile now, although I've sort of been wanting to watch the extended editions again. I haven't seen those for along time now, as its just tough to find that amount of time to set aside for them it seems (especially with our daughter now). I will say I usually watch at least some of them when they are shown on TNT though, still love those movies.
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I bought the extended editions a few years back and always wanted to watch all three back to back to back, but I just don't have the time. Still have to purge the standard editions, but I'll watch a few minutes here or there if I catch one on the tube though.
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If I watch the films on DVD, I watch the Extended Editions. I haven't watch the theatrical versions on DVD since the EEs were released.
The initial release of the trilogy on Blu-ray looks to be the theatrical versions. I'll take it (for now), but it's still rather lame.
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If I find them on TV I might watch a few minutes. I haven't watched the full films in a while now. I have both the theatrical and extended releases but when I sit down to watch them again I'll watch the extended releases. I probably won't watch the theatrical versions all the way through again unless I watched on TV or went to some type of movie marathon event to watch them.
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If I watch the films on DVD, I watch the Extended Editions. I haven't watch the theatrical versions on DVD since the EEs were released.
The initial release of the trilogy on Blu-ray looks to be the theatrical versions. I'll take it (for now), but it's still rather lame.
I read somewhere they'll release an "Ultimate" box set containing the EEs prior to the release of "The Hobbit - part 1," Christmas 2011. Hopefully they'll use 100-Gig Blu-rays so they fit each film on one disc.
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I too have both versions, but I only watch the EE's when I watch them. I also ripped the EE's to my ipod...
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I too have both versions, but I only watch the EE's when I watch them. I also ripped the EE's to my ipod...
I've only got the EE versions. I watch them on my iPod all the time. However, I'm a LOTR addict. Seems weird admitting that on a Star Wars fan site.
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I also ripped the EE's to my ipod...
I've only got the EE versions. I watch them on my iPod all the time.
I will never understand this.
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I haven't watched the Trilogy in a long while either. I think it's due to trying to find a good chunk of time to dedicate to 3+ hours of movie, and that's the theatrical releases that I own. I did borrow the extended versions of the movies and after watching them, those are the better releases as they add much more (in a lot of ways). Now there's a scene that when I watch the theatrical version, it feels like it's lacking, or the editing's off. (When Pippen touches the Palntir??) I can't recall. It's been awhile. I do need to get the extended versions someday soon though.
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I also ripped the EE's to my ipod...
I've only got the EE versions. I watch them on my iPod all the time.
I will never understand this.
I use my iPod Touch to watch movies when I travel. Its a lot easier to lug around than my PC on the airplane. The screen is surprisingly easy to get used too. Add on some Bose Noise Canceling Headphones and about as comfortable as I can get in coach class. The funny thing is that my headphones are way bigger than my iPod. I keep the iPod in the case with the headphones.
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Yeah, I mean, I get the appeal of being able to watch movies on your iPod, while traveling and commuting and whatnot, but it seems like you'd lose so much with long, epic movies such as these. It just wouldn't be an enjoyable experience to me, even if I really loved the movies. I don't have a movie-playing iPod, but if I did, I think I could only keep it to short, flat comedies like Spinal Tap and Caddyshack and such. But hey, if it works for you, more power to you.
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Anyone watch this: The Hunt For Gollum; a 40 minute independent film inspired by The Lord of the Rings which is to be released to the internet for free on May 3 2009. (http://thehuntforgollum.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html)
The Hunt For Gollum (HD version) (http://www.dailymotion.com/gb/video/x93zji_the-hunt-for-gollum-hd-version_shortfilms)
Damn! This is ******* good! 8)
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I've heard aboutt his but haven't had the time to watch it yet. I heard it was made for $3000 US dollars.
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Watched the EE Blu Rays on Friday and Saturday. The "endings" of ROTK still fill my eyes with tears every time I see it. Especially when Aragorn bends his knee to the Hobbits...man
The EEs are great too, really flesh out the rest of the story. I found TTT to drag a little more than I remembered. Great great great stuff and it really has me looking forward to The Hobbit more than ever.
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I actually started watching these last night. We got a late start and only watched the first half of Fellowship, but the transfer looks phenomenal and the effects held up in HD better than I expected. We're going to finish Fellowship tonight and then watch the rest this weekend.
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I ordered the EE Blu-ray with some extra Amazon gift card dollars I had left over. Should be delivered today... now to find time and sit and watch them.
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I know this is an old thread but thought I'd bump in case anyone still is in need of the EE Blu-ray set. Amazon has it up on a 1-day flash sale for $29.99:
http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Extended-Editions/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1416960140&sr=8-2&keywords=the+lord+of+the+rings
Great price considering it was $120 when it first came out...
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Yeah I got it for $37 and free shipping last month, and man it's incredible to own it in HD and play it on the big screen. The kids want to marathon it with me, which I did once before and it was almost enough to turn your brain to mush, but it was an experience... They want to do this before The Hobbit too. ::)
It's up there with Star Wars to me, so owning it was a no-brainer.
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I know this is an old thread but thought I'd bump in case anyone still is in need of the EE Blu-ray set. Amazon has it up on a 1-day flash sale for $29.99:
http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Extended-Editions/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1416960140&sr=8-2&keywords=the+lord+of+the+rings
Great price considering it was $120 when it first came out...
Thanks for that. I've only owned the regular DVD EE editions up to now so that'll be a nifty addition to the 80" Sharp. :)
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And I thought the $50 I paid for the Blu-Rays a few years ago was a good deal...
I've actually been meaning to marathon these for the longest time but have just never gotten around to it. I haven't seen TTT or ROTK in well over a decade. I didn't quite care for the first two Hobbits but I'm dragging myself to see the third so I suppose now would be a good time to do so.
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I had only owned the DVD EE's so it seemed like the best time to get these, finally. They also had the Star Wars Blu-ray set for $80 so I got that to go along with it. Hopefully this will be the last time I have to buy these until they are converted to Ultra 4K HD versions once the technology is available :P
The boys are still too young to be able to see LOTR, but once they are able, I can't wait to marathon these and the SW movies. Will definitely be a lot of fun when the time comes.
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-show_us_5a09efb5e4b0b17ffcdf83bc
Hmmm, interesting. I mean for some reason new Tolkien stuff doesn't interest me quite the way new Star Wars does, but at this point I should just look at it similarly and realize it was inevitable. I'm not much of a streaming guy, like ever, outside of Youtube videos, so I don't even know what I'd do here. I'm not a fan of paying for a bunch more stuff on top of my cable bill, but at the same time I'm not a fan of ditching my cable either... But I'd kinda like to watch this if it is actually decent.
Anyway, just another franchise making something we may or may not like.
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I don't see how this is a good investment. We already have a solidly definitive LOTR trilogy. There were a few departures from the novels, but not enough to carry an entire series. The TV series can't match the movie budget. All I'd be doing the whole time is thinking about how the movie Gandalf was better, or the movie battles were more epic. It's a PG-rated epic, so they can't take advantage of the sex and violence that makes most streaming series compelling. I just don't see any way this series wins.
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I'm wondering how Amazon will distinguish this series from the Peter Jackson trilogy. Are they going to sell it with "Oh, here are those Tom Bombadil scenes that you didn't get to see"?
I think everyone knows that the Tolkkien source material is really rich. But there is significant potential to get bogged down in that all, too. And are you going to be able to put together a cast that can deliver performances that are as memorable as the PJ trilogy? I'm having a tough time seeing the value in Amazon moving forward with this project.
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Lots of thoughts on this. On one hand, this seems very natural; the world is sort of made for TV. On the other, we know what 9+ hours of the Hobbit looks like, and we didn't enjoy it. The LOTR films are so iconic that this will suffer by comparison; it would be like if someone did the original SW trilogy on TV in the 90s. Imagine the screams of terror/derision.
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It's going to be a prequel, so it's not going to re-imagine anything Jackson did. It's supposedly going to focus on other characters and time periods, there is plenty of great story fodder from the Silmarillion and things like that.
I agree trying to re-do the movie stuff would have been pointless.
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I glossed over the bit where it's a prequel; I guess I stuck more on they spent $200 million for the rights to the books. It will be odd, then, if they don't adapt LOTR as a series. But either way, there's a mountain of stuff there.
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If they try things like the Silmarillion, or the Children of Hurin and some of the ancient Middle Earth lore surrounding characters like Morgoth, Sauron and such, it could be compelling stuff. The Elves and Dwarves go back to those times as well, as do the 5 Mythrandir. But adapting it is a challenge. I would hope that Peter Jackson might get involved from a producers standpoint since he knows the material so well. And the design work of artists like John Howe and Alan Lee were a big part of what grounded that production, as were the people at Weta in New Zealand. Amazon should really consider the value of their experience in producing this project if they're really going to go there with a LOTR project.
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Here's a detail that probably played into the recent developments about a Warner Brothers/Amazon partnership for this LOTR series: J.R.R. Tolkien's Son Resigns as Director of Tolkien Estate, Ending Decades of Tightly Controlled Adaptations (https://io9.gizmodo.com/j-r-r-tolkiens-son-resigns-as-director-of-tolkien-esta-1820476459)