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I think its the first.
It's around 3:38
Star Wars Rebels Season 3 Clip, Gareth Edwards Interview, and More! | The Star Wars Show (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe3LSQiMJUk)
The hair! THE HAIR! :o
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On your mark...get set...terrible! :D
The hair that is...
We need another Hondo figure!
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The green lightsaber threw me a little bit. As did... THE HAIR!
And yeah, Hondo is all kinds of awesome.
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Star Wars Rebels Season Three Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmXp802sFgQ)
It's true all of it....Thrawn, Wedge, Y-Wings, Dark Troopers (?) and the Outrider? Kate Blanchett's character from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is now an imperial governor. Whaaaat?
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I was a bit surprised to see all of those things wedged into the trailer, too. Plus there's the return of Fenn Rau and the Mandalorians. Oh, and the Dark Saber, too!
I'm also curious to see where things are going with Ezra, that holocron and Maul.
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I found the huge thing Kanan was talking to infinitely more interesting than Thrawn, but apparently they have toasted all the Inquisitors now, so it makes sense they would need to find a new way to up the danger level this season. At least they ditched his funky Space Parrot or whatever.
Agree it was a whole lot crammed in there. Makes me sad we will likely never see any of the great characters like Hondo, Lando, and the Mandalorians made in the toy line. :(
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Tom Baker of Dr. Who is voicing that behemoth.
Hondo, Lando and the Mandos...form a band!
A very special episode.
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That behemoth said he was one of the Bendu. And that goes right back to the original Star Wars script, where the Jedi were known as the Jedi Bendu knights. I get the sense that this part of the story might involve Force users who are neither Jedi nor Sith, which certainly seems to open things up a bit. Especially since the Knights of Ren appear to be Force users who are Dark Siders, but not affiliate with the Sith.
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The Celebration Europe Livestream Day 2 has a few clips... one with Sabine vs the Imperial Mandos and another with the return of Ezra's true master
Jar Jar Darth Maul.
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That behemoth said he was one of the Bendu. And that goes right back to the original Star Wars script, where the Jedi were known as the Jedi Bendu knights. I get the sense that this part of the story might involve Force users who are neither Jedi nor Sith, which certainly seems to open things up a bit. Especially since the Knights of Ren appear to be Force users who are Dark Siders, but not affiliate with the Sith.
Not to go too off topic, but I wonder if Maz Kanata is one of them. She said she's no Jedi, but she knows the Force, and apparently there is a deleted scene where she could wield the Force. I wonder if that is something that will be explored further in the movies.
Back to Rebels, I'm intrigued by the Thrawn angle as well as an introduction to Wedge and some of his backstory. Also like the thought of seeing them steal those Y-wings and the Rebels becoming a stronger force. I wish Filloni would just give up on the Clone Wars crap though! The fact that Maul is still around anfter being cut in half and falling down a bottomless pit gives me hope that we'll see Han Solo in episode 8! I also still can't stand the idea that Rex (one of the most loyal clones and leader of the 501st) is part of the Rebellion! LET THAT CRAP GO INTO THE ASH HEAP WHERE IT BELONGS!
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Rex knew about the control chips and had his removed. I'd like to see the flip side, an apologetically loyal to the Empire Cody.
A fan asked Filoni about using Maz Kanata and his response was "That's a great idea", while not confirming anything.
No Dash Rendar. (just his ship type)
No Mara Jade.
No ysalamiri. (somehow the outight no to Mara Jade led to that without exposition as to why no Mara Jade)
Nothing one way or the other about Cad Bane.
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That behemoth said he was one of the Bendu. And that goes right back to the original Star Wars script, where the Jedi were known as the Jedi Bendu knights. I get the sense that this part of the story might involve Force users who are neither Jedi nor Sith, which certainly seems to open things up a bit. Especially since the Knights of Ren appear to be Force users who are Dark Siders, but not affiliate with the Sith.
Not to go too off topic, but I wonder if Maz Kanata is one of them. She said she's no Jedi, but she knows the Force, and apparently there is a deleted scene where she could wield the Force. I wonder if that is something that will be explored further in the movies.
I think characters like Maz, the Bendu, Snoke and the Knights of Ren are all being used to show that the Force has many practitioners. And things like the Church of the Force, of which Lor San Tekka was a practitioner, are meant to show how the Force is a pretty universal concept. And the rumors surrounding Jehda in ROGUE ONE seem like they might reinforce the concept. All of that does serve to broaden out our perception of The Force, instead of it being this binary situation with the Jedi representing the light side and the Sith on the dark side.
No ysalamiri. (somehow the outight no to Mara Jade led to that without exposition as to why no Mara Jade)
There was this image of Thrawn from the trailer that seems like a very overt nod to the Ysalamiri:
(http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/images/c_fill,h_1080,w_1920/t_mp_quality/aw34oq3ovvonir26chbq/grand-admiral-thrawn-storms-back-into-canon-in-star-wars-rebels-season-3-1061735.jpg)
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I agree with Nick on the Ysalimirri dealio there... Think that's the acknowledgement of their existence and that's it. Don't think Thrawn would've passed those by Vader/Palps given their capabilities against the Force.
I love seeing Thrawn put into the show... To me he was always going to be "around" anyway since I liked him and consider him part of Star Wars regardless of what the highest bidder has to say. :)
If those imp droids were Dark Troopers, and they sure seem like they may be, I hope they don't piss around with that story much either. And piss on that Star Wars mobile game's attempt at rewriting anything from that storyline (I don't think they did, but freemium gaming is meh).
The chick from KotCS is already an action figure, if you had her and an extra Deena Shan from Force Unleashed handy. The head swaps perfectly for those who want to basically make that Imperial Governor without much effort. The KotCS girl's figure may actually have value now.
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Dave Filoni spoke briefly about the Ysalamiri during the REBELS panel at SWCE (https://youtu.be/HBVhBsN1H7Q?t=43m20s). And he specifically mentioned a conversation that he had with George Lucas on the Ysalamiri. The conclusion they came to was that the effect that the Ysalamiri had with this "Force bubble" didn't make sense in their interpretation of The Force. As a result the Ysalamiri wouldn't be carried forward in the way they were depicted in the Thrawn trilogy of books.
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Dave Filoni spoke briefly about the Ysalamiri during the REBELS panel at SWCE (https://youtu.be/HBVhBsN1H7Q?t=43m20s). And he specifically mentioned a conversation that he had with George Lucas on the Ysalamiri. The conclusion they came to was that the effect that the Ysalamiri had with this "Force bubble" didn't make sense in their interpretation of The Force. As a result the Ysalamiri wouldn't be carried forward in the way they were depicted in the Thrawn trilogy of books.
That's pretty much the problem I have with all that EU stuff...it just doesn't make sense in the broader context of what has been laid out previously.
I still maintain the Empire's core leadership structure were a bunch of racists who would never have allowed a non-human into the higher echelon of officers. That to me just fits better with their whole galactic Nazi motif.
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I think that aspect of Thrawn's story may be an interesting plot point in how he gets developed in REBELS. That Imperial governor went to Tarkin requesting assistance. And it seems that Tarkin in turn assigned Thrawn to deal with the Spectre cell. Tarkin is a major player in the Empire. So is he using an ace up his sleeve in Thrawn? Or does he see Thrawn as a rival, and is trying to set him up to fail?
As for the xenophobia of the Empire, it seems that Mas Amedda was still an incredibly highly placed individual in the Imperial apparatus. But individuals like Thrawn and Mas Amedda may be more the exception than the rule.
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They are/were, even by the EU's standards, fitting that Nazi-motif. The EU just slipped in that Thrawn and his species have a slightly higher level of acceptance, and while most Chiss don't rise to that kind of level, Thrawn was able to because of the man he was.
If you're sticking with the Nazi thing though... Even the Nazi's relaxed their rules as to who can be in and who can't. There were SS regiments formed in conquered territories, there were men in the upper echelon of the Reich who didn't believe in the Nazi ideals but who were just good soldiers. Many of them died on this very week (Operation Valkyrie), actually. I've always viewed Thrawn as the Erwin Rommel of the Empire... Educated, intelligent, not always an insider with the Nazi party but a valued officer, and one who saw the faults of the Nazis themselves, and that they were simply bad people.
The only thing I don't like, which I mentioned, was THrawn's place as a GA too early. If they'd had him at a lower level like his EU story played out, I think it'd make him even more threatening because you could play his ambition card... As a GA, Thrawn is really pretty close to Tarkin but in separate branches more or less. I'd have liked to have seen things done differently but the show's rumored to not last as long as TCW did and so maybe they're not wanting to get too complex with names/titles and stuff.
They kept a lot of Thrawn's background though. His studying his enemies, his art collection, etc. They're wanting that element the Thrawn Trilogy had of Thrawn being just as deadly and threatening as anyone, but without force abilities and just a purely strategic mind. I love that.
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While we're on the topic of Thrawn and tactics, did the portion of the trailer dealing with him manage to squeeze some TIE Interceptors in there?
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I thought they were a different ship, actually. But given the A-Wing's old EU reworking to be a pre-ANH ship and them taking that, I'd not be shocked to see Ints making the rounds too as they were also pre-ANH ships in the EU.
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Sorry if people have already seen this, but there is a nice season 3 fight scene here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWzTlJ-7PL0
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Dave Filoni spoke briefly about the Ysalamiri during the REBELS panel at SWCE (https://youtu.be/HBVhBsN1H7Q?t=43m20s). And he specifically mentioned a conversation that he had with George Lucas on the Ysalamiri. The conclusion they came to was that the effect that the Ysalamiri had with this "Force bubble" didn't make sense in their interpretation of The Force. As a result the Ysalamiri wouldn't be carried forward in the way they were depicted in the Thrawn trilogy of books.
I don't see why they couldn't...I totally understood how Zahn set up the ysalimiri and their defense mchinism of repelling the Force as a way to hide from the vornskyr who track prey by using the Force. Granted, they were a plot device, but at least they were well conceived and believeable.
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Filoni said it in that clip. All living beings help to create The Force. Qui-Gon helped describe some of the basics of The Force when he was speaking with Anakin in Episode I, and Yoda did with Luke in TESB as well. Plus, between George Lucas and Dave Filoni, they both agreed that a being like the Ysalamiri that could negate The Force would go against the overall concept of The Force being generated by all living things.
I'm not trying to crap all over Timothy Zahn's work. But I think that plot points like this Ysalamiri one are indicative of a weakness that Lucasfilm had with the old EU. Because it really seemed like there was not a guiding force back in the 90's when the Thrawn trilogy was written to guide story points like this one. But in the current era we have the Lucasfilm story group looking at the big picture and steering things in a cohesive fashion.
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There absolutely was no guidance throughout that... Hell, Lucas only stepped into TCW periodically and not even at the onset of it, but only once he got a glimpse at what was going on it seemed.
I knew someone who worked within LFL, and he said it was unreal how little "care" went into stuff sometimes. Just a rubber stamp process more or less, and Lucas just let others run the empire. It's kind of funny to see how he got (seemingly) a tad huffy with Disney, who in my view are just like the EU rubber stamp process except they decided to pay to take it all over and not have Lucas possibly intervene when he decided to.
I think the Ysillimarri would've/could've worked. I mean, this isn't set in stone stuff after all. And I think there is a nod to them there in the shot. In my little world they exist and maybe the force protection is their manifestation of using the force for themselves. They're so far back in Thrawn's life that I doubt he'd have been using them at that point. I feel as though he'd only have used them in the era his story was basically overwritten by the new stuff. That's just me though.
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Filoni said it in that clip. All living beings help to create The Force. Qui-Gon helped describe some of the basics of The Force when he was speaking with Anakin in Episode I, and Yoda did with Luke in TESB as well. Plus, between George Lucas and Dave Filoni, they both agreed that a being like the Ysalamiri that could negate The Force would go against the overall concept of The Force being generated by all living things.
I'm not trying to crap all over Timothy Zahn's work. But I think that plot points like this Ysalamiri one are indicative of a weakness that Lucasfilm had with the old EU. Because it really seemed like there was not a guiding force back in the 90's when the Thrawn trilogy was written to guide story points like this one. But in the current era we have the Lucasfilm story group looking at the big picture and steering things in a cohesive fashion.
I get you point, and I've thought way too long and hard about this stuff over the better part of the last 40 years, but I still find the Ysalimiri plausible. They may not necessarily negate the force, but, as a defense mechinism, developed a way from hiding their presence in the force which could negate a force user's abilities in a certain radius as a secondary effect.
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There are many references to the ability to "hide one's self within the Force" in the Plagueis novel. He pretty much does it all the time whenever he meets a Jedi. But that is not an innate ability nor is it foolproof, nor biological in origin.
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Yoda brings it up, too. He said in the PT "Hard to see the Dark Side is". And Palpatine was able to hide in plain sight from the Jedi as well. But that seemed more like an active attempt to deceive the Jedi.
Other things over the years have come into question. Like in KOTOR with both Revan and the Jedi Exile. Both of them were supposedly cut off from The Force by the Jedi. I don't think the story group has said at this point if either of those stories are canon or not. But those plot points from the games do make you wonder a bit about The Force.
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It looks like a fan favorite Mandalorian from the CLONE WARS animated series will be returning as a featured player on REBELS season 3 (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/09/11/katee-sackoff-to-reprise-clone-wars-character-on-star-wars-rebels/).
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It looks like a fan favorite Mandalorian from the CLONE WARS animated series will be returning as a featured player on REBELS season 3 (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/09/11/katee-sackoff-to-reprise-clone-wars-character-on-star-wars-rebels/).
Nice! Seems like a good shot to finally get an action figure of her.
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Like how we got an animated Tarkin. :(
Debbie Downer moment. :P
Her being a mando increases her chances, I guess.
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My kids and I are stoked about the Season 3 premier on Saturday night. Can't wait to see how big of a role Thrawn plays in this and if we'll see Ahsoka again.
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I am excited as well. The timeline is getting close enough to Rogue One for them to craft some real synergy within the franchise. I feel like this may be the last season too, but I hope not.
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I've been wrong before about this show, especially thinking the Rebels would be in Rogue One but man I just get a sneaking feeling that Snoke=Ezra steam makes sense especially with the stuff going on in trailers
I've also thought at different times it could even be Mace Windu but man...
And why the hell are the rebels not in Rogue One. This is part of the reason I don't like Clone Wars or Rebels with my whole heart, Kanan, Ahsoka and Ezra need to be dead by the beginning of ANH for it to have any meaning for and there is absolutely no way that they would do that on a cartoon. A movie though?
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I do get the sense that the stories of the Ghost crew need to resolve in some way, shape or form. Does that happen before the events of A NEW HOPE? I don't know if it has to be. But having two Jedi plus a fallen Sith running around when we were supposed to be operating under the premise that all of the Jedi are gone is something that I've been having a tough time accepting. Granted, the Star Wars universe is big and it does seem plausible that a few individuals could have gone into hiding. But now that Vader, the Inquisitors and the Emporer might be aware of Kanan and Ezra? I think their days are numbered.
This is not directed at anyone person, Scott. But I think that Episode VIII director Rian Johnson topped all of the Snoke speculation that came out of Episode VII perfectly: “Your Snoke Theory Sucks.” I think I want to see where this goes. I want to be a little surprised by the revelation when it comes.
Everyone has been theorizing about who Snoke is, or where he came from. Maybe the real explanation is that we have just never seen him in any form before. Maybe there is something for Luke Skywalker to reveal about Snoke, much in the same way that Obi-Wan explained Vader's origins to Luke. Because all of this theorizing about Snoke being some previously established character makes me think of what happened in Dark Horse's LEGACY title with Darth Krayt. Granted, A'sharad Hett wasn't a major player in the Dark Horse REPUBLIC title, but it seemed a little bit like shoe-horning the characters into that new situation.
A theme that keeps getting reiterated by the people at Lucasfilm is that they're looking to make the universe bigger, and not smaller. And I think that tying Snoke to any other previously established character absolutely makes the universe smaller.
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Snoke's origin is revealed in Life Debt, he's no one you know. Just an orphan kid from Jakku.
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So the chess game begins between two cunning minds capable of great ruthlessness....Thrawn and Chopper!
Having an AT-DP on a little platform like that seems like not a wise concept.
Imperial officer heavy. Two new (to the series) officers, Pryce (sp?) and Thrawn, plus Tarkin, Kallus, Constantine and that blonde guy later.
Why was the reclamation station in a planetary atmosphere and not space? So we don't have to use space suit models for the characters? So more Cloud City allusions?
Are Ugnaughts the only alien labour force? They got unions or something?
Somehow the OT Y-Wings are Clone Wars Y-Wings?
Ezra was right, had they just reconned and left, all the Y-Wings would've been scrapped by the time a strike team arrived.
Hondo got his ship, and it didn't cost the Rebellion a dime. Hondo, what a guy.
Kanan's scares aren't that bad. But really, no way for him to get cyber vision? What kind of sci-fi galaxy is this. Also, why does he keep his eyes closed?
Generic spiritual quest for Kanan, but Tom Baker is cool. Not sure why the spider were jerks before, oh, because they are.
Maybe it turns out the Sith Holocron does corrupt people and Kanan will face a big Bendu got bad!
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Liked it a lot. Dark Ezra is more fun to watch. The scene with him and the blond Imperial was hilarious.
So all that trouble for 5 Y-wings? Was that the exact # actually shown in ANH or something?
I love any weird Force stuff so the Bendu was awesome to me. Zero chance of that ever being a toy, but such a cool concept.
Thrawn was about as expected, cold, aloof, capable and impressive. Looking forward to seeing more of him. Again though, what do they do with all these guys in the very short span between Rebels and ANH? Gotta lot of people to write out.
I really, really want a pimped out gold Mining Guild TIE. ;D
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So all that trouble for 5 Y-wings? Was that the exact # actually shown in ANH or something?
There were at least 7. There were two bombing runs on the Death Star comprised of three Y-Wings each (which were destroyed), and there is one Y-Wing (at least) in the scene showing the Rebels getting away from the Death Star as it is blowing up. So they must find more somewhere since they have them in Jedi, too.
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Only one YW group made the trench run Steve, 2 XW groups did tho. One YW was present with the falcon and presumably Wedge and Luke escaping the blast.
That doesn't mean that's all there were tho, especially if old EU holds up at all.
Best way to tell how many YWs were in the movie is widescreen SE as the fleet they send is arriving. Tough to count but it can be done. I forget how many now tho.
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From looking at a scan from the special edition as the Rebel fighters are flying past Yavin, there were at least 8 Y-wings in the strike force. I like the mention of General Dodonna in the show, and that the fighters that Ezra's unit stole were headed off to Dodonna's cell. I think that it may have come across as too convenient if Ezra, Sabine and Zeb had been able to make off with a dozen Y-wings. If anything, Rebel units probably managed to equip themselves in a piece-meal fashion. Y-wings were a standard part of the Republic military during the Clone Wars, so there are probably plenty more in surplus elsewhere that are ripe for the Rebellion to... acquire.
I liked the episode. Kanan's quest made it interesting, since he's clearly suffered a tremendous personal setback, but in trying to come to grips with that he explores other facets of The Force with the help of the Bendu.
Ezra seems like he's headed down a path that's dangerous. The mind trick on the AT-DP driver was probably one of the darker things we've seen a character do on this show. But he also seems to have had a moment of clarity as he nearly got killed when he set out to bring that station down.
The Sith holocron seems like it's going to come back at some point, and soon. Should Kanan have entrusted it to the Bendu? I'm really curious to see how that works out.
I don't count myself among the biggest Thrawn fans. But I think that our introduction to the character is being done at a very deliberate pace.
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Only one YW group made the trench run Steve
Thanks for the correction. I hope this doesn't result in losing my SW fan license. ;)
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Oh no no no....
If anything it simply furthers my title as #KingOfTheDipshits and distances you from ridicule.
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I think that they specifically say in ANH that the rebel attack from Yavin was 30 craft, so they couldn't have too many more than what they acquired.
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Bast I think says to Vader that "we count 30 Rebel Fighters, but they're so small they're evading our turbolasers", and then Vader says destroying them ship-to-ship.
That's always made me feel like, for one reason or another, they have a sort of rough count and it's possible there's more, but 30 is believable too.
I've counted the number in the SE approach scene and now I can't recall what I came up with. That sucks, since it actually means something to a discussion. ::)
If you mixed in some EU, there's more, but they're staggered out further attempting to draw enemy fighters away from the primary attack plan... makes sense with the whole drawing their fire thing too. So it's possible there's more I suppose.
Fun fact, at least I think this is the case, all the SE X-Wings are "Red 5" markings because I guess they didn't wanna make more than one because $. So never take everything on screen super serious either. :)
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Fun fact, at least I think this is the case, all the SE X-Wings are "Red 5" markings because I guess they didn't wanna make more than one because $. So never take everything on screen super serious either. :)
You mean. don't take everything on the SE super seriously... you know, Jedi Rocks, or Han stepping on Jabba come to mind (that scene is bad- not because of the SFX, but because the dialogue is a rehash of what Greedo tells Han (which I'm sure the Greedo/Han dialogue might save been changed some when he released making a slug Jabba wouldn't work in the mid-70s)).
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Or all the Imp Officers having the same rank in ROTJ, the ****** AT-ST and SSD explosions, Vader gesturing awkwardly after his dialogue was over in ANH... There's silly stuff in the non-SE's too that makes me laugh when I see it.
Just having a discussion on the twits tonight about that whole acting sequence between Luke/Leia/Han on Endor before Luke bails on the group...
Such suck there. Ford holds it together, but as was said to me, it's like some teenage drama thing with Hammil/Fisher's acting in that scene. It rivals even the worst Padme/Anakin PT dialogue to me.
I don't hate the SE's I guess. I don't like a lot. I'd rather have that Jabba DB94 scene than not have it though, for some reason. I enjoy it. And hey... ASP-7 revolutionized Star Wars. :D
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I don't hate the SE's I guess. I don't like a lot. I'd rather have that Jabba DB94 scene than not have it though, for some reason. I enjoy it. And hey... ASP-7 revolutionized Star Wars. :D
I agree. The DB94 Jabba scene was supposed to be there to begin with, but the budget/technology wasn't there to do the SFX right so kudos to Lucas for having the heart to cutting the scene and adding more to Greedo's (I believe that was the case, could be wrong) dialogue to show how dire the situation with Han was. But George had the tech and budget in the 90s to do Jabba right, so I see no problem with adding him in the SE then. It's just that he should have went back and edited some of Greedo's dialogue so it didn't seem repetitious with the "dumping cargo at the sign of Imperials" line that they both shared. But, this is chat for the SE threads ;)
The show is fun though. The poor Ughnaught was bottle-rocketed by the AT-DP. Still don't care much for the main protagonists, but maybe with his Sith training, Ezra will somewhat mature and become likeable.
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Funny how the cannon has switched a bit. I remember from Jesse's favorite game, among one or two others IIRC, there's a mission to grab a new advanced fighter and it's the A-wings. In Rebels, they've had A-wings a while and are now salvaging clone war era bombers and making a deal for the B-wing.
Overall, I've liked the first episode and I'm looking forward to more...my oldest loves the show...I just wish Maul had stayed dead after TPM. Hell, I wish Rebels was more distanced from TCW cartoon, but I don't need to be repeating gripes here. :D
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The A-Wings in FC aren't, iirc, anything special that I remember? I haven't played in so long though, but still have the strategy guide here somewhere and the cut scenes saved somewhere for a customizing ref.
As the EU goes, the A-Wing was around LONG before ANH in some capacity already. It was the retconned into the ICS books as the Arrowhead Fighter (basically A-Wing ancestors that looked just like them), and that they were at Yavin... This jived with X-Wing (PC Game) and Rogue Squadron and such. The B-Wing wasn't really changed much either. It's still the project Shantipole thing more or less... They just wove it into Rebels, and added their own stuff that doesn't really change anything. Also it's still a prototype type deal, and seems on pace for its introduction as a production ship before the Battle of Hoth (roughly).
I should check that Force Commander guide out on the A-Wings... It's possible, as with all types of military weapon, it's just a weapons or shield or other enhancement too... It's always easy to crowbar that in without it really being contradictory.
The Y-Wings in the episode actually don't even appear to be the same ones from TCW but may actually be them fitting MORE EU into the new "canon" (or, new EU Disney's making), as those ships REALLY looked more like the up-armored Y-Wing from the Incredible Cross Sections which pre-dated the Clone Wars ships, and which helped cover up the fact the Clone Wars ships were too big to be the Rebel Fighters, actually, if you're going strictly on visual comparison. They sure appear to have the more tight-fitting armor plating though, like the ICS armored Y-Wing design had.
EDIT: Yeah this piqued my curiosity so I looked into it... Someone just promised a group of A-Wings if they helped him or something. It's a later mission (rebellion one) and those ones were so inanely frustrating I think I blocked them out, but yeah they actually show A-Wings in Rebel hangars when the main character defects long before that A-Wing mission and stuff.
Oddly, the old EU actually kept that stuff sort of straight. :) A lot of other stuff they couldn't and Disney obviously can't keep it (or at least not all of it) and make $ on the investment and stuff, but it's funny when you look at some really small details of EU and they kept a lot of it in order... They seemed to almost goof up bigger stuff more often.
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Boredom + insomnia = me finding this image...
30 ships, 8 Y-Wings among those.
They trail off into the distance, and as they get further back, it gets hard to see, so I'd say it's slightly open that MORE could be there, but hey, I'm fine with 30 too and the base holding a ton back in reserve to escort an assumed mass evac of the base ala Hoth anyway and thus there's like a billion Rebel Pilots at the ceremony. Maybe that's all the ships the base had even? Who knows... though that now makes me wonder how many are visible in the hangar when Luke gets back? Hmmm
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/b/bd/Battle_of_Yavin.png/revision/latest?cb=20121210202126)
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So if the rebels knew the DS was on the way, why not evac the base right away? Why was Leia standing there on the planet instead of on a blockade runner? She did the same stupid thing again in TFA.
Speaking of TFA, Leia had the plans to the original DS for thirty years. Why not build a version of the DS to use against the First Order if they attacked her?
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So if the rebels knew the DS was on the way, why not evac the base right away? Why was Leia standing there on the planet instead of on a blockade runner? She did the same stupid thing again in TFA.
Leia was vital to hanging around the control room and looking concerned.
Speaking of TFA, Leia had the plans to the original DS for thirty years. Why not build a version of the DS to use against the First Order if they attacked her?
Not in the budget. Not enough man power. The Resistance is like 100 people, all unpaid volunteers.
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Yeah I can see the DSs being made via unscrupulous means... So that makes sense to me. As far as Leia's presence I can see her refusing to leave and the majority of personnel off on shuttles and transports at some rally point.
She didn't seem to do anything but maybe she did or it's just stoic resolve to go down with the ship (or moon) as the saying goes.
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She could have looked concern on a ship and commanded the ships from there.
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Holocrons of Dr. Fate.
A two-seater A-Wing. Ah, cartoon physics where craft can change occupancy levels depending on the story. GI JOE did that a lot.
Maul's choice of hench-droids was silly.
That's enough Kanan and Ezra. Hopefully we can get to other characters next week. Though, wondering why Kanan changed his name, maybe Kanan Jarrus is like John Smith. (Skywalker joke again).
&*\\$**% those spiders. I only want to see them dead. Guess I'm out of balance with the Force.
Vague non-revelations...let's go save Luke from Maul?...will we get an Infinities resolution of Maul's fate?
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I assumed that Maul was referring to Obi-Wan who he could seek revenge on.
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There were rumors during the summer that Dave Filoni was hoping to bring in Ewan McGregor to presumably voice Obi-Wan Kenobi for this season. Bringing Obi-Wan into the mix might offer up a possible way to resolve the Darth Maul storyline. And I also have to wonder if that happens, would they look to incorporate some of the Visionaries storyline that involved Obi-Wan, Darth Maul, Owen Lars and Luke Skywalker? Because Ezra mentioned the twin suns following his holocron vision.
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Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along.
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TIE INTERCEPTADORES next week.
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TIE INTERCEPTADORES next week.
And at least one of them has markings that might be a little bit familiar to "Legends" literature fans.
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I assumed that Maul was referring to Obi-Wan who he could seek revenge on.
That would be kind of cool if Obi-Wan offed him a second (and final?) time.
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The Antilles Extraction.
Wedge needs a tooth removed and CHOPPER lives up to his name!
This was a gory episode for a kid's show. :o Chopper seemed sadistic. :-X
So anyway, Hobbie, screw him, this was the Antilles extraction.
Those must be subpar rebel pilots or older model A-Wings, because the ROTJ A-Wings can out run Interceptors.
All imperial installations have the same interior design. Good news for SPACE WALLS makers.
Sabine look too nice in that tight TIE pilot uniform. Uh...how old is he supposed to be?
New enemy TIE ace. Not Baron Fel.
Governor Irina Spalko...whatever. Die already.
Yeah, so let's have the temperamental teen command one of our precious blockade runners. Sato, you need to die, too.
Detacting TIE Fighter wings....clever nod to Kenner.
Sci-fi/horror rule, the black guy dies first. He didn't need to die, but since he was the doubter, he had to.
Unsurprising reveal is surprising to anyone under 6 who is watching.
Roomy TIE BOMBER cockpit, the cartoon occupancy level rule strikes again! Was hoping they'd drop speed, fall behind the Interceptor and fire a missile at it. Guess I played TIE FIGHTER too much in the 90's. (It probably didn't have ordnance loaded).
Oh, WOW. They went to all that and got 2 new pilots. They lost 6 at the opening. At that rate, the Rebellion is done for.
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Risking Sabine's life for three pilots seemed more than illogical
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Hera's Heroes.
It's all about Hera making sub sandwiches for the crew.
Is this the first appearance of Scout Troopers on REBELS? How does an irregular droid like Chopper constant fool Imperial personnel? He's just that damn good.
Another arrogant incompetent imperial officer and Thrawn, who has short temper when it comes to people who don't appreciate art.
Why is a GRAND ADMIRAL running around in what appears to be the Empire's smallest class of capital ship? Are Imperial Class Star Destroyers in short supply?
Kinda of a so-so episode.
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The Last Battle
Clone Wars music returns...
No Super Battle Droids. Which is fine because their CW design wasn't so great.
Zeb gets a bit sidelined when Rex is around, like having 2 gruff former soldiers around is too much.
Ezra figures out that the Clone Wars were never meant to be won by either side. He's some kinda genius. ::)
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I almost think that this past week's episode was a little bit of an exercise in tying up some loose ends. I remember towards the end of the CLONE WARS run when Dooku introduced the Super Tactical Droid Kalani. But I don't think the series was ever able to delve into the character at all. Seeing Rex back in action with the Jedi against a droid army? It seemed just like old times for him.
But looking ahead to the next episode? Check out this clip from this coming Saturday's episode: "Imperial Supercommandos" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzZJ_GZXhQ).
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I generally love Rebels (great to watch with the kids) and can roll with the punches on some of the lamer episodes, but one thing that kind of bugs me was the reintroduction of Rex (and Wolffe and Gregor). Rex just pops in and out at times, doesn't really feel like part of The Ghost crew, and doesn't really feel important to the story.
The past episode is a great example. Is there really any reason that episode couldn't have functioned nearly as well without him? Any Clone Wars insights could have been realized with just the Jedi vs. The Separatists. The Clone Army is irrelevant.
I also feel like they've mostly ignored Zeb in the past year, more or less when Rex came on board. While Zeb isn't my favorite of The Ghost crew, what I did like about the first season and a half was the small cast and how all the crew members interacted. Maybe that was getting stale and the characters needed to evolve, but I don't find adding Rex as a plus and I feel like the writers minimizing Zeb has been a minus.
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Actually it's two weeks until the next new episode. Because, Super Commandos are worth a super-wait!
I wonder if they'll ever visit a planet with significant vegetation again. Can't render all them trees on this budget.
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Seriously? They're already taking a break this season?
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It's probably because Monday is Halloween and they are doing some sort of movie marathon.
Nick Jr. has been showing Halloween programs all week! Can you tell I have small children? :D
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Imperial Stupidcommandos
Being evil Mandalorians makes them 5% smarter than the average Imperial nincompoop, and about 50% more accurate with a blaster...well, in the leader's case. I guess that makes him almost threatening. :-\
Tidbits about Sabine's history and Fen Rau signs onboard, because he's got no place to go.
The rest was chase/action scenes. But at least Chopper was there.
Also, when Chopper disabled them with the frequency burst, any Jedi worth his salt could've killed all 4 of them in that space of time, but hey, Jedi don't "murder" and that would've ended the episode real quick. Or Sabine could've blasted two them while Ezra took out the other 2.
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Not a very good episode. It was like a bunch of kids playing tag on the playground. How hard is it to aim straight? Even if they do get a hit it is shrugged off.
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Next episode is in two weeks. (well less than that now), with some kid? flying the not-Outrider.
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Not a very good episode. It was like a bunch of kids playing tag on the playground. How hard is it to aim straight? Even if they do get a hit it is shrugged off.
Agreed. I had to stop the episode a few minutes in and check Wikipedia to see if I missed an episode. It seemed completely random and not very good at all.
If this is going to be the last season you would think they would have some pretty big sweeping story arc with a nice dramatic finish. Maybe they're going to wait for the last six episodes to pull that off, but this episode and the Super Tactical Droid / Rex showdown episodes just seemed like random stories that didn't fit in to any story arc.
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I had to stop the episode a few minutes in and check Wikipedia to see if I missed an episode. It seemed completely random and not very good at all.
Ha! We did too. Stopped a few minutes and went back thinking we must have let the DVR keep playing last time. It's like they had a lot of half-thought-out ideas they turned into one off episodes. Its too bad there isn't a bigger storyline playing out.
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I'm running about a week late on these so I just saw Supercommandos Friday night.
Got tiresome seeing Sabine repeatedly taking crap from first Fenn Rau and then Gar Saxon in this episode. I kept wanting her to snap and go off on one of them. She needs a little more edge to her.
Would have been a perfect opportunity to work that TCW Mandalorian Shuttle into things but they had to go with the Mandalorian Starfighter and remind me how disappointed I was that never got made in the Clone Wars line instead. Bummer.
Wish battle packs were still a thing because those Supercommandos would be a perfect fit. As it is we'll be lucky just to get a single carded Saxon.
The storylines all kind of seem like filler at this point because I think they're already starting to focus on the next animated series and Filoni is not good with endings in general.
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Iron Squad-dumb
Zeb had a look of disgust or contempt at the end of the episode that sums up the entire thing. This is almost every bad thing you'd think a Disney Star Wars series would be, annoying adolescent twits humiliating the supposedly formidable Empire. The bumbling Imperial officer more interesting in creating an obvious trap than taking out the enemy he has at his mercy. Cliched lines such "I can't believe you guys came back!" and bickering astromech droids who still save the day. The cavalry showing up in time, while the enemy reinforcements are too late. Yay. ::)
The saving graces were the freighter and a brief appearances by Thrawn.
We never saw what the surface of the planet looks like so who cares if they had to leave? A few more episodes like this and who will care at all?
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The YT-2400 freighter is a nice nod to the old EU... as long as they keep Dash Rendar out of the mix. That character was very much a product of his times, and not very interesting.
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The 3 irritating yout's were tributes to Rebels Recon's host Andi Gutierrez and her production crew. But that changes nothing. A terrible episode with references is still a terrible episode.
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Yeah, but all those great plot twists! Who could forsee Mart staying with the ship? Then the Empire uses him as bait instead of blowing his ship to pieces or taking him prisoner. Amazing! And the two astromechs almost bumbled the whole mine thing, but found the courage to work together. I almost wept. The greatest surprise of all was that Imperial mines don't remote detonate if they're moved from the ship bulkhead to a container crate. Who knew?!
Between this and lackluster Walking Dead, my TV time is close to becoming my new nap time.
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Well, the Empire thinks a TIE transporter and its four fighters are enough to subjugate an entire world, so...but then again, there was probably less the population of a US county on the entire planet if all the dissenters could fit on one rebel ship. Lots of sparsely populated worlds. Everyone wants to live on Coruscant, I guess.
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Well, the Empire thinks a TIE transporter and its four fighters are enough to subjugate an entire world, so...but then again, there was probably less the population of a US county on the entire planet if all the dissenters could fit on one rebel ship. Lots of sparsely populated worlds. Everyone wants to live on Coruscant, I guess.
Well, in one scene you could see the outline of the trees from space, so I'm guessing that planet was only about the size of a first ring suburb.
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The Wynkahthu Job
Chopper's Alan Rickmanish-voiced droid pal is back!
Okay, so they can breathe in this planet's upper atmosphere? Otherwise they'd have to design space suits for characters.
Hondo, you've worn out your welcome and so has the other guy.
What seems to be Dark Troopers, which I thought were supposed to be a secret project, are mere sentry droids here. The kind they have on all Imperial freighters (?)...except the one Chopper stole last season, apparently. ??? And conveniently they take prisoners, otherwise Zeb and the disgusting alien guy would be dead. (But the Empire is well known for taking prisoners, actually)
They got their proton bombs, most of them, but what was the unsupervised Hondo loading while Ezra was saving Zeb? They have to the zinger at the end, that Hondo got nothing for his trouble. But how did the Ugnaught know Hondo would even get out with that crate?
The treasures were a vague thing, anyway...they could be priceless artifacts worth more than proton bombs, actually. The Ghost crew may have made the wrong call. Could've saved some history, the kind people would pay for, and made enough black market credits to buy bombs. In short, the Rebels SHOULD have been thinking like pirates, and less like freedom fighters.
Aside from the proton bombs, it was mostly a light-weight filler episode, but better than last weak. This show's story lines aren't going anywhere fast.
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I actually like this one a little bit. I like it when its just The Ghost crew on some random mission, and it was nice to see Zeb have a role in an episode for a change.
I'm still hoping for a big sweeping story arc that wraps everything up at the end of the season. I thought that is what Thrawn was going to be about, but so far we're going nowhere fast.
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I'd say the most off thing about it was the Imperial Sentry Droids, a lot of people were hoping for Dark Troopers specifically.
Rebels Recon said they were originally going to be probe droids. In this case changing them to Dark Trooper-like robots for a nod to the EU opens up a lot of questions, like how come the Empire doesn't use them more?
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These droids along with the introduction of the K2 model droid raises huge questions. It seems counter intuitive that the Empire would use an army of anything other than droids or clones considering its enormous disregard for life and the ubiquity of these technologies. Even a conscripted army can develop minds of their own, which is what we see happen again and again. You could make a case there was a political distaste for droids or clones post CW, but it's clear Palpatine gave zero ***** about the political mood of his subjects.
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Inside Man aka Fear and Lothal in Las Kallus
Back to moving forward with the real story.
Return of Ryder...odds of him getting an action figure are still 3,720 to 1
Thrawn gets more ruthless.
Obvious Fulcrum reveal is obvious.
AT-AT's are still undermanned. (Will we ever get a Rebels At-At driver figure? We'll never the AT-AT, so does it matter?)
Chopper is still most competent member of team.
TIE DEFENDER coming? (6 or 7 years ago that would've meant a chance at a 3 3/4" version...ahaw-haw... :( )
How did Ezra and Kanan ever hope to pass inspection? Both have to be on the empire's most wanted lists. Kanan is blind, if they'd asked him to remove his helmet, they'd probably notice that.
How did Thrawn get that helmet Kanan wore on the Sith temple planet? Or even know of its significance?
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Solid episode last week.
I like that they've added some intrigue with Thrawn and Kallus. Are the plans that were stolen legit, or just bait in his larger plan to uncover spies within his own ranks? Is Kallus really Fulcrum, or part of Trrawn's plan?
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Visions and (Scary) Voices
Maul returns. Yay. Bendu returns. Yay?
Seeing Dathomir again was mildly interesting. Maul jsut leaves his nostalgia cache for anyone to land on the abandoned planet and find. But who'd want to go there?
Sabine gets the dark saber, which dumb schmuck Ezra was just gonna leave there, because who needs powerful old weapons?
Okay episode, but it told us what we mostly already know, Maul is gonna seek out Kenobi and yes, the Night Sisters are dead...again...whole dead this time giving up the neon ghosts. So, episode still felt a little like stalling.
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I liked it but am an admitted sucker for anything Nightwitchy. Figured we might get an obligatory Talzin cameo but I guess she is for reals dead now.
Pretty sure we will see that dark saber again. Always liked that thing.
Sucks they don't know it's Tattooine they need to find. Maul should be there in about twenty minutes, and we all know in SW you always immediately find the person you are looking for no matter where you land on the planet. That should be some throw down.
Bendu would be a huge pain to try and customize but I want one more and more for my Rebels display.
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Sucks they don't know it's Tattooine they need to find. Maul should be there in about twenty minutes, and we all know in SW you always immediately find the person you are looking for no matter where you land on the planet. That should be some throw down.
The way Maul talked about it seems like he knows where to go. It sounded like he recalled Tatooine from the time of Episode I.
I'm personally wondering if this might play out in a similar fashion to the way the Visionaries comic did back in the Dark Horse comics days.
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Watched it with the kids and it was probably the most scary episode Rebels has ever done.
I'd love to see Obi-Wan off Maul once and for all.
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Coming soon to Star Wars Rebels? A character from Rogue One (http://ew.com/movies/2016/12/20/rogue-one-saw-gerrera-star-wars-rebels/)!
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Saw, Obi Wan, Mon Mothma, Darktroopers, TIE Defenders, Mandos...lots of goodness in the new trailer. :)
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It's very cool that they got Forest Whitaker to voice Saw Gerrera for the show. And from the sound of things, I'm pretty sure they also got Genevieve O'Reilly to play Mon Mothma again.
The Mando arc seems like it's going to get interesting, and Sabine will get some serious character development. But the best part here? Obi-Wan Kenobi facing off with Darth Maul again!
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It was nice to have a double shot of REBELS to kick off the second half of season 3. And even better having Forest Whitaker on board to reprise his role as Saw Gerrera.
These episodes served as a nice bridge between the CATALYST novel and the ROGUE ONE movie, giving a little more background about the workforce that was used to build much of the first Death Star, and what became of them when the Empire deemed that they had outlived their usefulness. And Hera's callback to the episode where the Ghost had previously been in Geonosis orbit and seen the manufacturing stations helped flesh things out, too.
There were a couple of details that I really appreciated. First? The language barrier. All too often characters seem to be able to understand one another perfectly, despite speaking different languages. Or there's a protocol droid that can translate everything. This was different. And when Click-Clack drew what appeared to be the Death Star the message was lost on the Rebels. When they found the toxic gas cannisters they quickly assumed THAT was what the Geonosian was referring to.
It's insidious that the Empire would kill all of the Geonosians in order to cover their tracks with the Death Star project. But having seen ROGUE ONE and how quickly the Empire destroyed Jedha City and their own base on Scarif? It makes it very clear that the Empire has become far more ruthless than some of the hapless Imperials we saw on Lothal in season 1.
I also appreciated getting some more background about Saw. He's clearly lost a lot. And because of that he's willing to do a lot more than the crew of the Ghost in pursuit of the cause of the Rebellion.
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I like how they are finally starting to tie Rebels to Rogue One. I guess they were just waiting until after the movie came out to do so. Good on them for that!
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The moral of this week's episode is never, and I mean NEVER leave Zeb in charge.
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I liked the cameos of the movie better than the show itself, but I do find elements of the show fun and interesting. I liked the droid and the idea of it in general.
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The moral of this week's episode is never, and I mean NEVER leave Zeb in charge.
Lots of nods in this episode. "Screamers," "The Black Hole," and the recon droid is a nod to a McQuarrie design.
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I initially dreaded last week's episode. I wouldn't count Zeb among my favorite characters in the series, even if Steve Blum has had a pretty illustrious career in voice over. I think a lot of it has to do with the character design. But I have to say that he grew on me a little bit. Having Zeb working with Chopper and AP-5 made for a fun dynamic, and helped develop Zeb's character a bit more.
Every time I hear AP-5, I have flashbacks to the depressed robot in "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy". I hope the showrunners can pair AP-5 and Chopper more frequently.
The Imperial Recon droid was interesting. When the Star Destroyer was launching the probe ships I definitely saw that as a callback to the beginning of TESB. And the Recon droid's protocol mode was an almost direct callback to the original McQuarrie illustration of C-3PO. I appreciate how much that sort of thing keeps popping up in the post-George era of Star Wars.
As for sending the droid back to the Imperials? A smart move, but Thrawn does seem to be playing chess while the Rebels are playing checkers. Thrawn was initially looking at thousands of star systems for the Rebel base. And now he's narrowed that down to 94 systems (Ahem, "Docking Bay 94" anyone?). And I think he's also working at flushing out Fulcrum/Kallus. I get the sense that by season's end Thrawn will probably attack the Rebels at Chopper base. And I think Kallus may need to work towards some sort of exit from the Imperial Security Bureau. So do the Rebels eventually end up at the base on Dantooine? That one gets referenced by Leia when she was trying to save Alderaan, but was deserted according to Officer Cass when he reported to Tarkin.
This week's episode had a lot more depth. I think we finally got a sense why Sabine has been so closed off about her past. And her character went through some major development. Fenn Rau certainly helped things along in terms of being able to give some of the backstory about the Mandalorians and the Dark Saber. But seeing Sabine go through training with Kanan and Ezra was really enlightening. I'm looking forward to seeing how this part of the Rebels story continues to unfold, because I think there's a good amount to come.
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Finally got caught up on the last few episodes. I thought the episodes with Saw were slow, but enjoyed the last two centered around first Zeb and then Sabine. I tend to like the show more when they keep the scripts tied tightly to The Ghost crew.
I'm not sure how many episodes are left, but I was really hoping for more Thrawn vs. the rebels. Agreed that its fun to see Thrawn's strategy at work and I'm hoping we get a great wrap up.
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My sons have been re-watching all of The Clone Wars seasons over the last few weekends and the thing that struck me the most was how the stories were able to develop over several episodes. The story arcs were great and really kept you wanting to see what would happen in the next episode. With Rebels, it just seems like they are trying too hard to wrap things up in single episodes week after week. As if the producers feel that the viewing public is just too dumb to be able to remember what happened the week before. This leads to poor character development, and episodes where things conveniently fall into place in order to wrap things up in 30 minutes. I still watch every week, but I'm just really not as engaged as I was when TCW was in full swing...
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Funny, but I see that REBELS has been taking a fairly circuitous route in developing some of their characters. They don't really beat you over the head with it, though. Ezra's story took some time to develop, and his path as a Jedi still seems to be unfolding. And there was also an article that ran recently about how Dave Filoni spoke with actor Tiya Sircar about how Sabine's story was going to develop over several seasons so that she could inform her performance accordingly. The last episode was very much about getting Sabine to open up about why she left her family. And the next two episodes are going to explore that story even more. It's definitely not a "one and done" sort of situation.
This piece just ran on Comicbook.com (http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/02/09/star-wars-rebels-season-3-when-you-can-watch-obi-wan-kenobi-and-/) and has titles and synopses for the final 5 episodes of season 3. I'm glad to see AP-5 is in the mix. And the Obi-Wan confrontation with Maul should be pretty amazing. But the story synopsis for the 2-part finale seems deliberately vague.
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So do you think there is any creditably to the rumor that Sabine is the child of Satine and Obiwan? How about that Ezra and Sabine are Rey's parents making Rey Obiwan's granddaughter.
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So do you think there is any creditably to the rumor that Sabine is the child of Satine and Obiwan? How about that Ezra and Sabine are Rey's parents making Rey Obiwan's granddaughter.
I kinda like that except Satine was Clan Kryze, not Clan Vizsla like Sabine plus she dead. Maybe her mom could be Bo-Katan if she married into another House.
And Ezra is way too much of a dork to pull a babe like Sabine. She needs a scoundrel! :D
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I think that if Satine did have Obi-Wan's child, the natural foster parent would probably be Bo-Katan since she and Satine were sisters. But did we ever see it aluded to in Clone Wars that Satine may have had a child?
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Yeah I'm also thinking Bo-Katan is Sabine's mom, though I've heard some other theories.
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So do you think there is any creditably to the rumor that Sabine is the child of Satine and Obiwan? How about that Ezra and Sabine are Rey's parents making Rey Obiwan's granddaughter.
Good Lord, I hope none of this turns out to be the case. Forget the fact that "Satine" having a baby named "Sabine" sounds ridiculous. Ignore that Obi-wan, one of the most intuitive, empathetic Jedi ever is either ignorant of or completely disconnected from his baby girl. The real problem is that the writers made a specific point about how Anakin and Obi approached their love interests. Anakin first maintains the attachment to his mom, leading him to slaughter a Tusken camp. Then he - very differently from the rest of the Jedi- puts his self interests ahead of the order again with Padme, keeping his feelings and marriage a secret. The pattern of putting his attachments ahead of the order are what draws him to the dark side. Conversely, Obi-Wan puts the order above his own self interests, stays celibate despite his feelings for Satine, and dedicates his life to watching over/protecting/training Luke to restore the balance. If they then say, "Yeah all that, but Obi got a little on the side with Satine and they had a kid," then this becomes the definitive jumping the shark moment in the Star Wars universe. Extending this ridiculousness even further to Rey being Sabine's kid might actually kill the concept of Star Wars for me.
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I kind of alluded to in the other thread re: Rey's parents anything outside of Skywalker or Solo requires way too much heavy lifting for the audience. I can see her being a Kenobi, and that opening some doors to some nice possibilities, but for her to be any relation to Satine, Sabine or Ezra is to require the general audience to care or know about characters they simply don't. It would be a great easter egg for fans like us. It would be confusing for anyone else. With Rey's parentage being the central issue of the ST, the answer will be obvious to fans and non fans alike in the sense that her folks are people with big time recognition.
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Pretty sweet episode with more Mandalorian vs. Mandolarian battles. They've got to turn that episode in to an EE exclusive 5 POA figure offering. Use the Fenn Rau figure and repaint it a bunch of different ways to make a Tristan figure and others, and resculpt to make an Ursa Wren figure.
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Is Fenn Rau an animated version of Kenneth Brannaugh?
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Fenn Rau is actually voiced by Kevin McKidd (Trainspotting, ROME on HBO, Journeyman on NBC, and Grey's Anatomy on ABC). So, Brannagh-lite.
But this past week's episode? Pretty solid. Seeing the Mando's fight one another was very cool, as was seeing Clan Wren at last. Sabine's mother is not to be trifled with. There's still that lingering plot point about her father being held as a hostage on Mandalore. But with Sabine gone from the crew of the Ghost? I think we're in somewhat new territory.
The preview for next week seemed a bit stylized. A first person POV episode might be a little more challenging to take in, but let's see where it goes...
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Notice the Mandalorian baddie was voiced by Ray Stevenson (Kevin McKidd's ROME costar, also Frank Castle in Punisher War Zone and Firefly in GI JOE Retaliation)
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Notice the Mandalorian baddie was voiced by Ray Stevenson (Kevin McKidd's ROME costar, also Frank Castle in Punisher War Zone and Firefly in GI JOE Retaliation)
Seriously? I thought I recognized the voice, but didn't make the connection. That's pretty awesome! If only Filoni would have had Gar Saxon call out "13! 13!", or had a scene between Saxon and Fenn Rau.
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I read a pretty cool fan theory on what one of the end-game pieces of this series could be (since I think we are headed that way).
Vader tells Palpatine that his apprentice lives and Palpatine charges Vader to bring her before him so she may be turned to the dark side. She refuses to turn and pleads for Anakin to help her as Palpatine hits her with the force lightning. Vader turns his back on her as Palpatine destroys her.
It sounds a little heavy for this show, but I think it would be a pretty cool way to see this loose end tied up.
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Notice the Mandalorian baddie was voiced by Ray Stevenson (Kevin McKidd's ROME costar, also Frank Castle in Punisher War Zone and Firefly in GI JOE Retaliation)
His music is awesome. Guitarzan is lyrical genius. :P
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Pretty cool to see Yularen again.
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I really liked this episode. Going to be fun to see what happens to Kallus.
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Kallas really underestimates Thrawn. Poor Lt. Lyste...he'll be known as ______-Lyste now.
Apparently Thrawn had the Holy Grail in his office. But how did he get it beyond the seal? (That part of The Last Crusade never made any sense.) And Gree's helmet...hopefully without the severed head inside.
It seems unlikely the captured transport shuttle could escape like that, unless they let it go on purpose.
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Secreted Cargo
Zeb and Ezra's rough housing lets giant oozing snails loose!
No, that's not it. It was Man Mothra. Also, Swede Vender, Gold Loser, and some pilot chick who is lucky to be knocked-out and survive the episode.
It's nice to have the teenage kid show the veteran pilot how to get it done. By nice, I mean grating.
That shuttle had a small crew or Hera let a buncha people die. YOUSA SHUTTLE CREWSA GONNA DIE?
TIE DEFENDER, more like Tie Assaulter.
Hera stole that move from like Star Trek the Next Generation.
Governor Pryce-checker and Admiral Constantsqueam get humiliated again.
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Pretty good episode. Finally, Dantooine comes into play.
We get to see the TIE defender...I want one for my collection!
That shot of the Star Destroyers getting damaged by the explosion was prety cool.
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Double-Penetration Droid :o
Okay, we have the imperial controller lobot-headset wearer, apparently based on Pablo Hildago, who wears glasses...have we see much of that in the Star Wars?
Vanessa Marshall voice-acting triple time...the other inventory droid...good...the imperial tech...not so good (too recognizable, too Hera-like).
Oh, AP-5 and Chopper as stars, so you know it was great. That's not sarcasm. 8)
AP-5 is even more like Marvin from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy than usual.
Nice to see Wedge again....going to the "refresher". Star Wars restroom...at last!
Felt like we didn't need Ezra, though. We get so much of him and his force-shmorce played no role here.
The end was too convenient...magically make the imperial ship go kablooie! And daaayum...Hera, you stone cold killed those folks. >:D Let's not forget that lobot-Rodian who worked for the Empire even though he didn't want to...some of those people could've been like that. Oh, well.
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Watched the latest episode, "Twin Suns" via DisneyXD app
The "Good":
- breathtaking visuals again - very cinematic
- the score brought back familiar PT and OT themes that instantly draw you into the universe
- Stephen Stanton's spot on Obi-Wan, scary good
- Final scene of Obi-Wan overlooking the homestead
The "Bad":
- they spent too much time with Ezra in this episode
- I can't help but think they botched the Maul stuff. It just did't have the emotional payoff I was looking for. He was built up so much in the Clone Wars and his re-introduction into Rebels it ultimately fizzled out in the end, IMO.
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***SPOILERS***
I can definitely see how some will feel let down by the final duel between Obi / Maul and Maul's arc in total. This one is going to be super divisive I think. I loved the duel. I loved the samurai nature of it (quick and to the point) and the abrupt, but inevitable finality of it. A duel on the scale of TPM of some of the later CW ones wasn't possible and I don't think would have been fitting. Their initial duel was driven by ego as much as a physical prowess that neither still possessed. I also half way think Maul offered himself up in that final move which was very similar to the one where Obi halved his saber in TPM; only then, Obi didn't take advantage of the clear opportunity to kill Maul and instead kicked him away, prolonging the duel out of a sense of perpetuating his anger and justice. Here, a wiser and more humble Obi-Wan dispatches him without any pyrotechnics.
I was also struck by Obi-Wan's seeming empathy for Maul at the very end. I think it shows truly who he is. Also, Maul's final line: 'He will avenge us.' Who exactly is us? Obi-Wan and Maul? I was very moved by it. Unexpectedly so.
Agree with all the good points - amazing visuals and direction. Stephen Stanton - WOW. Sam Witwer - amazing as always. I think the biggest problem with Ezra and all these characters is they're simply conduits for us to experience the greater story of the main arc which the Skywalker Saga. This really came home for me in RO. That movie and this show are really just tours through major aspects of continuity featuring characters we have more of an investment in and not so much about the characters in the film at all, although Rebels has been doing more to develop its mains this year.
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Nice that Ezra disobeyed orders and lost the Alliance a valuable A-Wing fighter. Someone needs to knock that teenage twit down a peg.
Cartoon vehicle occupancy rules...the A-Wing can fit a small astromech behind the seat.
Did the A-Wings have hyperspace drives before?
Chopper went along hoping to see Ezra die...and least that's my theory.
James Arnold Taylor was robbed...I thought he could an older Obi-Wan. Not that Stanton wasn't good.
"I don't recall owning a dewback. I do recall pwning Maul!"
Maul, what was the point of it all?
Did Ezra find Maul's ship? Using jedi magic?
Overall, shrug-worthy. I had no attachment to Maul. And I'm hating Ezra more and more.
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I also thought there was too much Ezra.
I very much enjoyed the Obi Wan / Maul interaction. I liked the short duel and as Darby said was unexpectedly moved by Maul's death and last words.
I am however upset with both Jayson and Darby for not letting the first thing I got to read in this thread being what sucked about the episode by Scockery as it normally is
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There was basically a season's worth of set-up for a duel that lasted three hits.
I was glad to see Ben Kenobi, finally. Odd that Organa has been telling everyone that Kenobi died...but I only say that in how Kenobi was covered in Rogue One.
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I watched the episode a couple of times, and I just watched Rebels Recon. FWIW, Rebels Recon does give some tremendous insight into how the episodes are made. And I think it was an excellent episode.
I caught a line of dialogue from one of the Rebels at Chopper base that said Bail Organa had said Obi-Wan Kenobi was dead. I think that was disinformation on Bail's part to help keep Obi-Wan's seclusion a secret. And regarding the A-wing? The deck officer told Ezra that a trainer was ready to go when he left Chopper base, and that's the A-wing they took to Tatooine. The run-in with that Tusken Raider was done pretty well, from Ezra fighting the one with the gaffi stick, to the snipers taking shots at them from the ridge, and blowing up the A-wing.
I like how they depicted Tatooine. The hills were a lot like the Jundland wastes, and there was that arch that seems to have popped up in the pod race as well as Anakin's search for Shmi. But the desolate wastelands and sandstorms? That's the Tatooine that I think we never really saw in places like the homestead or Mos Eisley.
The holocron does seem to be a somewhat ambiguous plot device. And it seems based on what Obi-Wan told Ezra that the intentions of a holocron can mimic the desires of those who would seek it's knowledge.
As for Obi-Wan? I like that the message form of Obi-Wan was shown as a kind of connective tissue to the past. And they didn't shy away from depicting an OT era Obi-Wan Kenobi. I also think that Stephen Stanton did an amazing job with the part that was true to OT Obi-Wan. That was really what the character needed to be like. He had Maul's game pretty well figured out before he even saw Maul in the camp. And he also measured Maul up pretty well in the duel. It was over quickly, like a classic Samurai duel. Maul's last move was like one he use on Naboo. He tried to hit Obi-Wan with the saber hilt the same way he hit Qui-Gon before Maul ran him through. Obi-Wan saw that coming and countered it, ending the duel.
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I was also struck by Obi-Wan's seeming empathy for Maul at the very end. I think it shows truly who he is. Also, Maul's final line: 'He will avenge us.' Who exactly is us? Obi-Wan and Maul? I was very moved by it. Unexpectedly so.
I took this to be Maul realizing that he, and in a way Obi-Wan, were both used by Sidious, the Jedi, and perhaps the Force itself. And that use is what led them both down the path they found themselves on, as well as the larger path the Galaxy and the Force were on. Luke as the Chosen One can/will fix this, but of course from a Dark-sider's pov that will be an avenging.
Did Ezra find Maul's ship? Using jedi magic?
Obi-Wan directed Ezra to go north, likely he knew where Maul's ship was - whether by the Force or his own eyes.
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I am however upset with both Jayson and Darby for not letting the first thing I got to read in this thread being what sucked about the episode by Scockery as it normally is
;D
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Wasn't able to catch the full episode, but did find an excerpt of the Obi Wan/Darth Maul confrontation scene elsewhere online, which was what I really wanted to see. I loved it. Stephen Stanton did an awesome job recreating Alec Guinness' voice and the OT Obi Wan's character. Despite the fact that the character was animated, it was a believable characterization that fits in with the OT films. The more "limited" fight seemed very fitting as well... It plays into Episode IV well where his fight with Vader was pretty static. It would not have made sense for him and Maul to have taken out across the desert in a wild fight. Obi Wan is older and presumably has had time to reflect and practice his sword arts into a fine craft... I enjoyed the reference to him guarding Luke - the "Chosen One."
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I am however upset with both Jayson and Darby for not letting the first thing I got to read in this thread being what sucked about the episode by Scockery as it normally is
I know, right? Other people actually watched this episode. Weird.
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I watched the last two eps this weekend and I really liked the one with AP-5. It's tempting me to repaint the droid from the Clone Wars line because it's to a T the AP-5 character just silver. I think that one can be had for cheap from China if you look around on Ebay and AP seems to be a sort of purplish color, but not quite black.
He's quickly becoming one of my more liked characters on the show.
I generally don't care for Rebels overall. I think it's just not nearly on par with TCW which had horrid episodes too, but this just seems to have a lot more appeal for kids maybe, and a lot less for adults. That said this last two eps were great I thought. Whoever voiced Kenobi was spot-on. I liked the abrupt ending even, actually. I liked that they played up Maul's more complex character that's been made since TCW (whether I felt good about that choice or not, they ended it on a high note). Lots of good all around.
I assume Kenobi's directions to Ezra about going NOrth and stuff and finding his way home meant Maul's ship. OWK seemed quite aware of Maul. Again that played well into the quick death I felt... Kenobi's seasoned at this point, far more like Yoda than the OWK of the Clone Wars. The dying line Maul had was pretty great too. The Dark Side is nothing but misery. It's nothing but bad even for the people who embrace it, almost like drug addiction or something.
I enjoyed these two eps. I still hate Ezra. I hate Zeb generally. Kanan I'm not wild about. Sabine I'm 50/50 on. Chopper, AP, and Hera are the only steadfastly good things about the show, to me. Well that and designs are all over that I really want to translate into toys. Ships, boxes, weapons, etc.
Oh and now glasses are in Star Wars on Lobot's father? That's odd. We've never seen anyone else using them, but him? Hmmm. ???
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Oh and now glasses are in Star Wars on Lobot's father? That's odd. We've never seen anyone else using them, but him?
Glasses are old school Star Wars...
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Loved the quick saber battle!
The only thing that really bugged me was when Ezra made it back to the rebel base and didn't mention Obi-Wan to anyone. You would have thought finding a Jedi Master would have been big news he would want to share the second he landed. I would have thought Ob-Wan would have told Ezra not to share this info, or maybe he would have got back to base and had a conversation with Kanan or Bail and they would have come to a similar conclusion of leaving Obi-Wan alone.
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Wow I forgot diabetes in Star Wars also causes eye issues, just like here.
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Loved the quick saber battle!
The only thing that really bugged me was when Ezra made it back to the rebel base and didn't mention Obi-Wan to anyone. You would have thought finding a Jedi Master would have been big news he would want to share the second he landed. I would have thought Ob-Wan would have told Ezra not to share this info, or maybe he would have got back to base and had a conversation with Kanan or Bail and they would have come to a similar conclusion of leaving Obi-Wan alone.
Maybe Obi-wan did a Jedi mind trick on Ezra to forget about finding him. Ezra is pretty weak minded.
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***SPOILERS***
Overall kind of a meh finale, but good. My biggest takeaway is the Imperials shot a cloud in the face. And it worked. I think.
The overall issue with the show is the characters continue to be sort of secondary in their own story. The show is about the formation of the rebellion. It's not necessarily about Ezra, or Kanan, or Hera, or Sabine. Sabine did grow a lot this year. Hera is in line for the promotion we know she gets by RO. Kanan's blindness never really factored that much into this arc this year. Ezra's flirtation with the dark side was just that, culminating in going over narrative ground (my place is with my new family) we've already covered. Everyone else is also present. It's good, I enjoy it, but increasingly it's like, there's no there there.
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Was it new last night? The cable guide said it was a rerun
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Was it new last night? The cable guide said it was a rerun
Technically it was reruns of the new 2-episode finale that aired earlier in the day. I think it was around 11am. But certainly confusing and stinks if you missed out.
I agree it was meh. Almost Deus ex machina in a way. As Darby said, shoot the center of the cloud? Nice guess work on Thrawns part since he doesn't know Bendu culture. Again with inept imperial officer who disobeys a direct order which costs the Empire. But we could see that coming a light year away.
The coolest parts were the space battle and ground siege. Also, I really want Thrawn with his assault gear.
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Thanks for the info
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What the hell for? That's obnoxious
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Overall I thought they were good episodes. I liked seeing Deathtroopers, and the battle was good. It was odd that Mon Mothma didn't want to commit more troops to the battle. I also liked that they are now setting up shop on Yavin IV.
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I will say Kallus has developed well, and his arc from Imperial to Rebel has been fairly nuanced for a cartoon. I have suspicions however he may be a double (triple?) agent. Thrawn's ultimate plan may be placing someone within the rebellion directly; that would certainly be a more complex plan befitting Thrawn than what we've seen. If it were me (sigh) I would have footnoted the pyrrhic victory of the Empire with Thrawn's seemingly outsized pleasure. He's done damage, sure, but you have no idea how much.
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That sort of took everything right about Rogue One and it's military aspect, and took a big healthy **** on it I felt. :-\ Why drive them back and force yourself into land combat? You had ability to handle it in space. Too much cat toying with a mouse there for my liking. The land battle felt like it had more going for it, but then Bendu and just facepalm that whole ending.
Though it was nice to see them reaffirm the "shields prevent flight" thing too. I did like seeing that.
I enjoyed seeing certain things like Sato's angle, but just felt it was kind of a mess, and the whole Mando BS at the end... oofah. Just bad. Bendu too... Ugh. Just ugh.
Death Troopers though... that was kinda neat. I liked seeing them carried over, and I sort of take the show as like some slightly distorted look/view of the actual events.
I really felt like that was a rough end to a season I didn't care for overall. It's Star Wars, so I stick with it, but it's becoming very much like Fear The Walking Dead is to me as far as feeling like I have to watch it for some reason, more than wanting to. But again I see stuff I dig. I can always enjoy looking at concept work, and details about the show on the online stuff dissecting a given episode.
One cool thing I almost forgot because it happened so early on. The Mouse Droid as a "spy" tool and its little doggy door? 100% pulled from the Jedi Knight games, seriously. I do enjoy that whoever's working on it likes West End Games stuff, McQuarrie art, and the classic Lucas Arts games before they become a thoroughly ****** hollow shell of themselves. That was just awesome stuff. Even know a guy who worked that into OLD JK before in his own edit, and it was picked up for later JK games. Very cool to see it intro'd in here as a technique Kallus uses. Guess Katarn had a good teacher perhaps? :P
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One cool thing I almost forgot because it happened so early on. The Mouse Droid as a "spy" tool and its little doggy door? 100% pulled from the Jedi Knight games, seriously. I do enjoy that whoever's working on it likes West End Games stuff, McQuarrie art, and the classic Lucas Arts games before they become a thoroughly ****** hollow shell of themselves. That was just awesome stuff. Even know a guy who worked that into OLD JK before in his own edit, and it was picked up for later JK games. Very cool to see it intro'd in here as a technique Kallus uses. Guess Katarn had a good teacher perhaps? :P
That may have come from Pablo Hidalgo. Evidently he was a big fan of West End Games, and I believe he actually went to work for them on their Star Wars game before going to work for Lucasfilm.
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The All-New Rebels Zero Power-Hour or Bendu-Like Beckham or The Last Air Bendu
Why this episode sucked....and the rest of the season: Ezra.
Admiral Konstantine is kinda of a chump but he'd disobey a direct order from a superior? Not sure that was in character, because he'd been unable to think outside of a box before. And whatever glory he'd gotten would be meaningless since Thrawn would the real winner of the day and write Konstantine up for insubordination. So just felt like a way to off a leader from both sides.
What will Sato's nephew do now? Hopefully never appear again. LOL
"Bendu, doo that voodoo, that you do so well."
"What part of 'the middle road of the force' didn't you understand?"
"BENDU, U STRAIGHT UP COWARD, DAWG!"
"Do me a favor please, Kanan. Gerrarra here, man! You know what I'm sayin'?"
Kanan can slice and dice AT-AT's but stops after one. Gee, thanks.
Sabine will help! CUZ MANDOS BE KOOL.
I don't recall the other interdictor being destroyed (weren't there two?), so...how'd they escape?
I'm glad Kallus survived, even if his escape was too lucky.
It wasn't that bad, Dos Equis Bendu aside.
Felonious Filoni says more Mothma and Saw Gerrarra Here Mandos next season. Yeah, sure. Is Thrawn coming back or leaving to obsess over what Tom Bakerbeast told him?
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There were two interdictors. Sato took out one and Ezra and the mandos took out the second with their hand pieces and rockets.
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Oh yes, Steve reminds me... Guys on a hull SHOOTING PISTOLS wouldn't do **** to a capital ship. I'm sorry, but that was dumb. Likewise I forgot about Konstantine's bull****... Like Scockery said, he's going to disobey a superior officer in the middle of a battle over open com's and what "glory" was he exactly going for? The carrier was probably no more valuable a kill than any other ship there. The Frigates seemed like bigger threats even. Just dumb.
Again everything great about the combat of Rogue One was chewed up and spit out with this "climactic battle". The show's for kids, but so was TCW and TCW seemed to make a bit more sense than this did. This felt just forced and haphazard.
Don't wanna be a downer, just man this could all be better and it's like they're not really trying that hard. :-\
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I thought the siege was pretty suspenseful and wondered how the hell they were going to make it out. That suspense was killed with Bendu. It just felt like a weak way to conclude the battle.
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I thought the whole "retreat" was kind of odd in and of itself... I liked the Imperial blockade preventing them leaving the system, but the story just went odd from there to me.
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I thought the whole "retreat" was kind of odd in and of itself... I liked the Imperial blockade preventing them leaving the system, but the story just went odd from there to me.
Well, I love how a blockade of a planet means just placing a bunch of ships on one side of it, instead of surrounding the thing. Why not just slip out of the backside of the planet?
I know, it's a cartoon... but it was the same in Phantom Menace and Empire...
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Never understood that myself... ESB we see so little, it's tough to say what's going on, but yeah, why couldn't you just zip around the planet quickly and sneak out the other side? Is there a whole other fleet over there? Are groups of Destroyers just sitting waiting around the entire thing? Is that how Naboo was too? Is that what Hoth was like?
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This has been a ??? for me ever since the OT. This happens at Hoth and Endor, where the Rebel fleet is ostensibly trapped, yet can escape by simply going up or down. There are numerous shots in the finale that show maddening gaps in the blockade of Attolan (sp?) and opportunities for the Rebels to escape. A true blockade would be similar to the planetary one of Naboo in TPM but much more aggressive. I get it's a resource thing with numbers of ships you don't need to go nuts with assets, you just need shots that show the blockade is globular and impenetrable. Shots from a distance, from the poles, the surface, etc.
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At Endor, I can buy that the effects are what they are and they couldn't encircle everything in ships because it's just a ton of work to do that... If you do stills, there are all these tiny overlays of ships in the background that when the film's running you can't really see them but they're there. And it's still not enough, but I can buy that the intent was there that the Rebel Fleet is trapped between the DSII and all the Imperial capital ships (and the moon) and breaking out is tough... I can buy that there's a ton of interdictors strategically placed there and stuff.
And I guess that's possible with the toon too... I mean the ground battle shows little stuff, few characters/items but ultimately I guess it can be assumed a lot more are there than we see and it's just not in the budget to animate 300,000 Stormtroopers, 20 AT-ATs, 100 AT-DPs, etc.
At the end of the day Star Wars always has the "how did they wear their clothes under the Stormtrooper armor" plot hole. :) But I felt like Rogue One did a far better job on combat and this just kind of was meh. Bendu was beyond stupid. Then again I felt Bendu was stupid from the first moment they introduced him. Likewise was Maul's turd that won't flush scenario (though I did enjoy Kenobi's ending his story).
Naboo had large gaps too but I seem to recall ships being relatively spread out... Hoth, they really just don't show much of anything for you to pick it apart I guess. At least they didn't get to space, meet the enemy, then somehow be allowed to retreat back to the planet. THAT doesn't strike me as plausible unless Thrawn was just dicking around with them.
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Never understood that myself... ESB we see so little, it's tough to say what's going on, but yeah, why couldn't you just zip around the planet quickly and sneak out the other side? Is there a whole other fleet over there? Are groups of Destroyers just sitting waiting around the entire thing? Is that how Naboo was too? Is that what Hoth was like?
The blockade of Naboo stuck out as curious to me, too.
But in the case of the blockade of Attalon? I think they actually covered that from a story point within the episode with the orbital bombardment. It really did come across as quite a devastating attack as it happened. Kanan very nearly did not make it back to the base because of that bombardment. And if ships did attempt to make their way around the planet for another angle of escape? I would think that the orbiting blockade would be able to detect the movement and either take it out with another orbital barrage or intercept the escaping ship. Sublight engines would limit the speed of the vessel that's flying in the atmosphere, while a ship in orbit could probably move much quicker to intercept that ship on it's escape path.
I did find the Mandalorians taking out the second Interdictor to be a bit of a stretch. I got the sense that the Gauntlet may have fired on the Interdictor before deploying the raiding party. I think the one point where it may have been plausible is that Sabine and her warriors used the rockets from their jetpacks to finish the job. I could see the potential for that to disable the ship. But destroying it? That only seems like a possibility if the Interdictor generators are such a volatile type of tech that the operation of their gravity wells have the potential to jeopardize the entire ship.
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Wtf is a "gravity well" anyway and wouldn't they have made more than 2 of them and wouldn't they have come in handy at Scarif or either of the Death Stars? That is some silly retconning.
I loved the finale. I thought the space battles were the best we have seen on this show so far. I loved the heightened level of danger...was expecting at least one of the mains to buy it at least. Between battle droids, incompetent badly aiming Stormtroopers etc the villains have largely had a comical feel to them. But that orbital bombardment was no joke.
Did Hera call Kanan "love" at one point?
I'm all about weird Force stuff so Bendu-Gone-Wild was a treat for me. Pretty lame they could just shoot him down though. One day I will start the ultimate custom project and create my own Bendu to scale. Because Hasbro sucks and I'm still waiting on my Zillo beast. :D
Thrawn looked so beyond stupid in that ridiculous helmet it shattered his whole mystique. I loved Kallus telling him he talked too much though, because he does.
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Wtf is a "gravity well" anyway and wouldn't they have made more than 2 of them and wouldn't they have come in handy at Scarif or either of the Death Stars? That is some silly retconning.
The Interdictor Star Destroyers were actually an EU creation that got introduced into REBELS, and this is only the second time ships like these have turned up on the show. These ships were more specialized than standard Imperial Class Star Destroyers, and they were intended to prevent starships from jumping to hyperspace. But I got the sense that they're also more vulnerable to attack than the Imperial class, and that's why Thrawn positioned them to the rear of the fleet.
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At the end of the day Star Wars always has the "how did they wear their clothes under the Stormtrooper armor" plot hole. :)
They didn't. Their clothes were in Chewbacca's satchel*, duh. Lord, some folks just have to have every little thing explained to them. ::)
*Yes, including their boots. Chewie's satchel is bigger on the inside. ;)
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Yet it stayed so flat and fashionable too. Form fit and function
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At the end of the day Star Wars always has the "how did they wear their clothes under the Stormtrooper armor" plot hole. :)
They didn't. Their clothes were in Chewbacca's satchel*, duh. Lord, some folks just have to have every little thing explained to them. ::)
*Yes, including their boots. Chewie's satchel is bigger on the inside. ;)
Would you call that a "Murse"?
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More of a Wurse
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The ads for them "What's the Wurse that could happen?"
Which sounds better in Wookie.
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The Interdictor Cruiser is super old EU, but super fun stuff too... Were they at Endor, and other planets? Tough to say. Scarrif seemed to be set up for defense, not attack (IE: blockade of a planet) which is what IC's do. The big half circles are the gravity well generators. They didn't work in EU like they do on the toon where they sort of "snap back" a ship trying to leave. They simply caused gravity wells artificially so a ship couldn't hyper out... IE: like a planet is in its way.
They are, however, a far weaker ship. They're significantly smaller than a Star Destroyer, more in line with a Victory-Class Destroyer, which was also an EU vessel pulled from concept art for ISD's from the OT. They were supposedly a late Clone Wars Era vessel, like a lot of things in the EU that basically Lucas decided to ignore rather than intelligently pull from and integrate if even in small doses (like Y-Wings, Z-95s and other stuff).
At Endor like I mentioned before, the battle was intended to be MUCH larger, but effects such as they were at the time, left a lot of things as simple specks of a background overlay that got more and more complex shots layered atop it. If you look close though you can see ships that appear a GREAT distance from the battle taking place... It's kind of neat. Same can be said of the Rebel Fleet at the end of ESB actually. Tons of ships, just some are way far off it seems and hard to make out the specifics. But it's totally plausible Interdictors were at Endor but held a distance away... which was kind of what Konstantine's vessel was doing till he decided to break rank like a ninny. They could take on a smaller ship... And while that "carrier" is big, if it's anything like a ship that existed in EU that basically served the same purpose, it was a weaker vessel and relied mostly on what came out of its hangar than what it had as its own weaponry. So the Interdictor going after it for a kill is kind of silly but possible.
Interdictors could be relatively easily taken out by Y-Wings and B-Wings though, in games anyway which had pretty good balance to them.
As far as numbers there seemed to be plenty in the gaming world but two at a battle would've been ample to bog down anyone fleeing the scene too. They're kind of neat... I believe they too may have been derived from concept art for Destroyers. Not positive on that though, but for some reason I'm thinking they are/were.
I'd like to see some Victory-Class Destroyers and some of the Venator-Class peppered into the show, personally. Something to imply they're there and in service in some capacity. Just like in Rogue One a Juggernaught was in use, I like to think these other larger ships are still serving a purpose in the Empire. Hell, if you went by EU the Empire has Corellian Cruisers of various types, and the Nebulon B and its brethren are actually Imperial-born ships too, all part of pickets and larger fleets.
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I remember in EMPIRE AT WAR (not the expansion) the computer AI would build lots of interdictors and send them as part of a failed attack fleets in the Galactic Conquest mode. At one isolated planet with only level 2 or 3 station (meaning no capital ships could be be built) I wiped them out time and again with the Rebel corvettes and fighters. Why the AI wasn't buidling victories and venators, I've no idea. The AI liked to built gobs of the TIE scouts, too.
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Star Wars Rebels Season 3 Imperial Death Count (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp0hFNW4qIc)
Wow
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I see where they've got Season 3 DVD on pre-order.
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I picked up the Rebels Season 3 on DVD a couple days ago and am just about finished with the season (it's amazing how short these episodes really are w/o 10 minutes of commercial interruptions!) To date, I had hardly watched Season 3 on account of a busier weekend schedule plus the fact I really can't stand the Disney Channel. Overall, Season 3 strikes me as one of the best seasons of Rebels yet. I enjoyed the Rogue One and ANH tie-ins and Admiral Thrawn was awesome. The Obiwan/Darth Maul showdown was perfect. In some ways having Ezra track Kenobi down seemed a little shoe-horned into the wider Rebels story, but it was good to see a classic character and I loved the way they ended that particular episode with Kenobi watching over Luke... Now to await Season 4!