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Title: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: JediMAC on March 3, 2003, 03:41 AM: So apparently those two rumored 4-packs are indeed on the way judging by the mock-ups obtained by American Dream Comics (see main page for news). What do you think of them? Here's some small teaser pix from ADC - go to their site for bigger shots here:
http://www.americandreamcomics.com/index.php?itemid=1103&catid=8 (http://www.americandreamcomics.com/index.php?itemid=1103&catid=8)

(http://afigures.com/g/generated/Star%20Wars/fourpacks/IMGP0772__scaled_100.jpg) (http://afigures.com/g/generated/Star%20Wars/fourpacks/IMGP0773__scaled_100.jpg)

The first set is the Imperial Forces set, and comes with the Commtech Stormtrooper, Emperor's Wrath Vader (POTJ), a somewhat revised AT-ST Driver, a cool new black Imperial R4 droid, and a handful of accessories.

The Bounty Hunter set comes with rehashes of the 300th Fett, POTF2 Bossk, POTJ IG-88, and POTJ Aurra Sing with an all-new and very cool Swoop Bike.

With the complete understanding that these are just supposed to be some "refresher" (and army building) sets to get some of the older figures back out on the market to some of the newer collectors who may have missed out, I think they're not half bad, especially the Imperial set. Pretty much a new figure with the black R4, which will look great next to R2-Q5, as well as a couple good Imperial army builder figures and some good (but rehashed) accessories. The inclusion of the EW Vader is a bit curious and unfortunate - would've much rather gotten one more "army builder" figure instead.

The bounty hunters are all rehashed, but the cool new Swoop Bike will unfortunately make most completists or ship collectors go out and buy this set anyways. Another clever marketing move on Hasbro's part, sure to bother some people... I would've much rather just had a nice 6-pack set of all of the ESB Bounty Hunters instead though! And as far as originally being very hard to find, Zuckass would've been a much better inclusion in this set than Bossk.

Nice concept, that with a little work, could get better in future sets...
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: DSJ™ on March 3, 2003, 08:49 AM: Oh bloody great. I needed to see that Matt. ;)
Rehash, rehash, rehash. Still I may want to get these.
I have a thing about box sets. They look cool & come with lots of accessories.
Hmmmmmmmmm! Must make room for these. ;D
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Scott on March 3, 2003, 09:53 AM: I love the Imperial Set, I'll pick up three or four probably. I'll pass big time on the Bounty Hunters though. The EU swoop does nothing for me. Sweet idea, I hope they do more of these instead of the accessory sets...as long as there are new figures (even if they are repaints)
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: SilverZ on March 3, 2003, 12:55 PM: I'll love the Imperial set out of the box, that's for sure. I have no problem with armybuilders if I can get at least one unique figure out of the set with that droid. Good times. It looks like the EW Vader is made from solid plastic this time, so I guess he qualifies as a different figure in a variation kind of way, but he wasn't my favorite Vader to begin with. I'm starting to get annoyed at the POTJ Sandtrooper arms cursing all of the opportunities for cool Stormtrooper variants.

I'll buy at least one for opening, and, alas, I one to keep boxed, like the completist fool I am. I think the packaging has a bargain-basement feel to it, though.

I'll hold off on getting an opener of the Bounty Hunter set, unless Bossk gets a good repaint. Until we see actual figure pics instead of a back box shot, I'm not that interested in this one.

Maybe they'll do another set like this for Hoth Imperials...
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 3, 2003, 04:51 PM: I only want the Imp one for the droid, and I only want the Hunter one for the Fett... :-\
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: aka DaBigKahuna on March 3, 2003, 06:32 PM: I do not have a wealth of insight on this other then, I'd pick up both, I never collected the POTF stuff so this is all new to me! Rehash is fine by me. ;D
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: max_one on March 4, 2003, 12:37 PM: i love em, rehash or not, i completely missed Aurra Sing the first time around, but definately not this time.
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: DSJ™ on March 4, 2003, 12:52 PM: Hey max_one, if your talking about this one, she's a dime a dozen up here in Canada. Tri-logo card but better than nothing.
Pic not Tri-logo.

(http://actionfiguresbygofigure.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/aurrasing(t).jpg)
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Nicklab on March 4, 2003, 07:07 PM: I like the 4-pack. Too bad there's not a fourth army builder in there. I like the Vader, but he makes me want to buy fewer of the sets than I might if there was another Trooper, Officer, or Droid in the set.
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: jor_supersid on March 5, 2003, 08:33 PM: i like the pack it looks good i just don't like the stupid hoth cannon whats with that?

the bounty hunter one is just stupid the bike is the only thing good
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: boba-brett on March 6, 2003, 08:35 AM: Curse you Hasbro! You are like the Emperor luring me towards the dark side of rehashes. Must resist temptation......but that bounty hunter set is pretty cool.

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: obi-dad on March 6, 2003, 11:49 AM: I'm definitely buying multiple Imperial packs, but not any bounty hunter as I already have all the figures. I would have loved to have an imperial officer, sandtrooper, snowtrooper, or even an AT-AT driver instead of the EW Vadar, but then we'd probably NEVER see the 4-pack at a store. Still, it's one sweet set if the price is right.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Morgbug on March 7, 2003, 01:52 PM: I like em, I'm just not sure I believe them. I expect something is coming, but maybe not these exactly?

Imperial set: Love the droid, a black R4ish type is superb. The new Vader I can deal with, more Vaders is always fine by me. AT-ST driver? I dunno, not too keen. It's good and all, but how may AT-ST drivers do I need? Yes, I need more AT-ST's but that's a different topic. More stormies are always welcome too, but here's where I start wondering about these mockups. I've got an AT-ST driver and a Stormie but NO blasters and instead a big a$$ cannon? I don't get it. I would have expected at least two blasters of regular size in there and no cannon.

Bounty Hunters: Aurra again? On the bright side, these sets won't make it to Canada, so at least that isn't a worry, but we hardly need another Aurra. I still have three, I think. Another Bossk? What were they thinking. Bossk is easy and cheap to get, why why WHY didn't they put in a Zuckuss (yeah, sure, I have a loose and a carded one, but lots of people don't)? They have the mold, he was hard for most to find and would be a huge hit. I don't honestly believe Hasbro to be that stupid that they would take Bossk over Zuckuss. Too strange. IG-88 is cool, but again a bit surprising. Very recent release, I would say that even Bossk makes more sense than this one. The Boba, if it is indeed just like the 300th is great. I would happily welcome it into my collection, though I'm surprised given the price point when they sold so well at $10 US each. The bike is kinda cool, but too EU-y for me. Not really Star Wars-esque, but I can certainly understand the attraction it may hold.

I just have a funny feeling that these are not what the final packages will be. Color me surprised if it is the case. Regardless, I'll buy at least one of each anyway, probably two of the Imperials. Maybe two of the BH pack so I can have a loose 300th Fett.

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EDIT by JediMAC: Looks like our language filters missed that one there Mr. Potty Mouth. :P Changed it just a tad for ya' B... ;) Contemplating changing your "Lakers Suck" post while I'm at it, but I'll try to show some self control! :-X
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Boba Binks on March 10, 2003, 05:02 PM: Well I think this is a good way to get sets of figures for those who have not been in the hobby for long. Plus there is somewhat of a new thing for those who already have the figures.
On the other hand I would like to see new figures not repacks or re-tolled figures.

As you all know I am a completest so I will of course buy one of each set to open. The Bounty Hunter set looks sweet just for the Sing Swoop.
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Zuckuss44 on March 11, 2003, 08:28 PM: Wow. They look interesting.

Imperial Set: I never got the Commtech Stormie, and a new droid is always good. While I have the Vader already, I could always try and trade him. I always like more AT-ST drivers, and accessories are always great. Looks like that's a must buy for me!

Bounty Hunter Set: I never got Aurra Sing. I guess I could use another Fett as a clone or something, or trading fodder like Fett. I have Bossk, so he's not all that great. But with the IG-88, that'll make four, so I can have the true group, ala Tales of the Bounty Hunters. I have the vintage, the SOTE, and then two POTJs. And I could always use more vehicles, so though not as great as the Imperial set, I might buy it for Aurra, IG-88, and the bike. Unless it's too expensive for my tastes.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: JediMAC on March 13, 2003, 02:33 AM: The fellas over at RS are reporting from some of their Canadian sources that there are now FOUR of these 4-packs showing up in Canadian TRU computers: Imperial, Rebel, Hoth, and Ultimate Bounty. This certainly doesn't mean that anything's confirmed, but I believe some wild speculation is certainly in order! ;D

So there's the possibility of a couple more of these sets coming out - a Hoth set and a Rebel set. Hmm, any ideas as to their potential contents?

The Hoth set could be a mixture of Rebels and Imperials. Maybe a Snowtrooper, Hoth Rebel Soldier, a protocal droid, and ... uh... Cliff Claven? Or maybe a Tauntaun! That would be pretty cool, though not quite within the same price bracket, I'd imagine.

As for the possible "Rebel" set, I'd guess that this would have to include some type of RFT, an astromech, generic pilot, ... ???
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: SilverZ on March 13, 2003, 03:25 AM: I've got no good guesses on the Hoth set. I honestly hope its something like a Hoth Vader, or some of the better Hoth sculpts, which are quite few. I can't see them shipping the old snowtrooper with a new one hitting this year. Lastly, I don't want to see another Hoth trooper atrocity like the Target pack!

I can see the Rebel set being as you mentioned - an RFT (fingers crossed for another new head), a droid, and probably a pilot with the 90th Biggs body, and probably the clean-shave Endor trooper's head with a removable helmet, which would be ok, I guess.

Neither seem to have the obvious army building potential like the first two though. I hope these are cool, because the first ones look good - but I'm having a hard time coming up with a working idea using the Hasbro concept of kit bashing existing parts or rerelease variants to make these sets.

So let me speculate that it will be the "Hoth Droid 4-pack" and the "Rebel Droid 4-pack" assortments, and I'll be happy forever! :)
Title: Re:New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Guttersnipe on March 13, 2003, 08:27 AM: I think they both look cool.
Imperial.
The R4 rocks.
Vader, while not that different from ER, still different enough to warrant purchasing. You can never have enough Vader IMO.
At St, much better than POTF2 version.
Stormie, once again can never have enough of these.

Bounty Hunter
Bossk, shame really.
IG88, I only would like this because my IG88's arm doesn't move.
Boba Fett, I would like this cos' my 300th is signed and I have been itching to have a go.
Aurra Sing+Swoop, Only interested in the swoop really.
Notice how they dont show a pic of her on it. I bet she looks terrible unless they sort those legs out.

Still for my own reasons I will hopefully get both of these sets.
Title: Re: Future Saga 4-packs: 3rd set will be Hoth!
Post by: JediMAC on March 20, 2003, 04:37 PM: So here's the word from Mike at GH on the supposed third 4-pack in this line:

"A third set, Rescue On Hoth, is also planned, with re-issued figures of POTF2 Luke Skywalker Tauntaun , POTF2 Hoth Leia, Hoth Chewbacca (the Saga Cloud City version with snow deco), an orange and white R3 droid with clear dome, and of course, a POTF2 Tauntaun."

I find this set's details to be more than a little surprising. Sure, I was anticipating and hoping for a TaunTaun and an astromech, but where's the Hoth Rebel Soldier?! If these 4-packs are going to succeed, Hasbro really needs to throw in a good army builder or two I think. I guess if that's not going to happen, hopefully there's enough folks out there who are relatively new to collecting and missed these Hoth rehashes the first time around who will buy them up so they don't warm the shelves too much.

Glad to see they'll at least be using a different Chewie to apply the snow ******* to. I think a Probot would've been a nice inclusion in this set as well, instead of a fourth figure. Those haven't been out in a LONG time... Another new astromech will be the highlight of this set, along with another TaunTaun to stick our new wide stanced brown and/or blue Hoth Han's on. Mike also mentioned these are going to be TRU exclusives. I'm still hoping that these sets come in at a decent price point -definitely under $20. Anything over that, and these things will SIT...
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: MisterPL on March 20, 2003, 05:00 PM: - Imperial Set: The only thing that will keep me from buying more than one is the Vader figure. I have no use for lots o' Vaders otherwise I'd be picking up a case of these army builders.

- Bounty Hunters: I'm in it for the swoop. Everything else will probably become custom fodder, unless I like the deco better. (Will Fett's final deco be TESB or ROTJ flavored?)

- Rescue on Hoth Set: After seeing Hoth Han's ridiculously wide stance (shades of General Lando!), I suspected a tauntaun was a comin'. No army-builders means only one for MisterPL.

- Rebel set: Considering Hasbro's already offered Endor Troopers and Hoth Troopers as exclusives, I'm going to guess these will be from ANH. Repainted Rebel Fleet Troopers (Massassi Temple deco) would be cool, variant heads would be cooler, but would a Fan Choice figure be out of the question? Is this where Hasbro will put General Dodonna? A Yavin Rebel Hangar Technician maybe? So many choices...
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Scott on March 20, 2003, 05:07 PM: They are so missing the boat by not making each figure an army builder. Instead of buying 4 of each, I might at most get 2 Imperials, pass on the BH's and pick up one Hoth. I like these sets in theory, so far the execution has been hit and miss
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Scott on March 20, 2003, 05:11 PM: I'm also sad because I have a custom of this little guy

R4 (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=3015&text=&imageid=2917&box=&shownew=)

Which I think was the last one I did...I like it when they make me retire customs though and it sounds like my Echo Base R3 will be leaving too ;)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: MisterPL on March 20, 2003, 05:38 PM: Quote from: OCB on March 20, 2003, 05:11 PM
I like it when they make me retire customs...

I have given up on screen accurate Star Wars customs until Hasbro quits making these things altogether! Just when you think you've found an uber-obscure figure from the movies, along comes Hasbro before the paint's even dry to announce, "Oh yeah! We've been planning that one for YEARS! BWA-HA-HA-ha-haaaa!"

Even concept figures aren't safe. I'm sticking to fan-fic for the time being. My Mace in Jedi Training Gear is pretty sweet, and I doubt Hasbro will ever be offering THAT. ;D
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: JediMAC on March 20, 2003, 05:52 PM: That's exactly what I was about to say MPL...

I was collecting TONS of custom fodder during the POTF2 era, but 'round about the time POTJ hit, I realized that it's best if I just let Hasbro handle things for the time being, at least until the modern era has finished running it's course, which is probably still a good 5 years away methinks...

Now if only I had known back in the early 90's that there would be a modern SW figure line, I might not have been dropping nearly $100 a pop at collecting shows on some real nice Vintage based/styled customs of Ephant Mon, Grand Moff Tarkin, Sandtrooper, Garindan, and Oola... >:( Fortunately, I never found a custom Slave Leia to my liking at least... :-\
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: JediMike393 on March 22, 2003, 10:10 PM: I'm going to get these sets. Since I don't have all of these figures except the Boba Fett (300th Edition) and I wouldn't mind getting a double of that. ;D
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: JediMAC on March 24, 2003, 08:56 PM: Well, it looks like these 4-packs are going to be coming in at $20 a pop. About what I was expecting, as that is in line with what 4 regular carded figures would run 'ya. I was hoping they'd be a little bit less, but I'm not too upset...

Here's a link to Amazon.com, where it appears that the first one of these sets is available for pre-order, though it doesn't list any of the details about it: Star Wars Figure 4-Pack (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008KA2K/starwarsbounty00/002-2886674-4531264)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Scott on March 31, 2003, 01:39 PM: I hope that is right Matt cause I preordered. If it comes as a pack of Zam Wessel, Pilot Jango, Nikto Jedi and Mace Windu I am going to send it to you gratis :-*
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: SilverZ on April 7, 2003, 05:51 PM: Well images just popped up of the Hoth set. Looks like the droid is another winner. :)

What's interesting though is the Leia - which appears to be Bespin Escape Leia with Hoth Leia's head and jacket. Nice little custom there, me thinks.

Does this change anyone elses minds about this set? I'm much more accepting of it now. It means the only stinker figure in there is Luke. Leia, a snowy Chewy, and a new droid repaint, plus the TaunTaun make me pretty happy!

J
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: JediMAC on April 7, 2003, 08:51 PM: (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-03/Hoth_set.bmp)

Well, it's hard to make much of a determination based on this picture really. The R3 looks just as nice as I expected it to - the highlight of the set really. This Hoth Chewie will look better than the previous one since it's based on the nicer Bespin Escape sculpt with some snow flocked on. Hard to say what the Leia is kit-bashed out of, but hopefully it's a nice combination of stuff, and she comes out even better than her previous Hoth incarnation. The Luke... can't tell if it's really any different, though it probably wouldn't even matter - boring. Finally, the Tauntaun - just a POTF2 rehash looks like. Not sure why his tail is laying aside, separate. It would be nice to see a split belly feature in this one for you know who...

Overall, I dunno. Not too exciting. Cool droid. Maybe some nicer Hoth versions of Leia and Chewie. But overall it's rather disappointing that there isn't an army builder included herein. A Hoth Rebel Soldier of some type would've been better than Luke. But I suppose this is Hasbro's way of catching up all of the newer collectors who missed out on these characters the first time around, and for that reason I guess I shouldn't complain too much. Foots the bill in that respect, I suppose...

Just wish there was an easier/cheaper way of getting a few more of those R3's! :(
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Jesse James on April 9, 2003, 03:47 PM: I think I'm t he only person disappointed with the R3. They used that bogus POTJ sculpt instead of the R3-T7 body that has the poseable legs and retractable 3rd leg.

Love that poseable/articulated sculpt. :(

This set is as uninteresting as the 4-packs can get to me... The Imperial one seems to be the nicest. The Bounty Hunter one doesn't even pique my interest except they really did a smash-up job on that Swoop. Too bad the figure can't ride it that it's intended for, haha.

This is a set idea that could REALLY be improved though, kind of like their accessory sets for Target. It's a shame... Hasbro's got a knack for taking a potentially great success and working it so it'll only be mediocre at best.

I could whip up 4-packs and accessory sets (and army builders) that would definately appeal to all collectors I think.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Mikey D on April 10, 2003, 11:08 AM: potf2.com has just confirmed the tauntaun will have a split belly feature. Here's hoping it comes with lots of squishy entrails and guts. ;)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: JediMAC on April 10, 2003, 06:18 PM: That is indeed GREAT news. It's very nice to see that Hasbro is actually putting out the Tauntaun that we expected they should make when they originally announced that the new Hoth Han would have the lightsaber slashing action feature. Would've stuck out like a sore thumb to not have the split belly Tauntaun for Han to have his way with, when he's finally got the ability to get medevil on it's @$$ with a lightsaber!

Also worth mentioning is that Luke is very bowlegged, and indeed posed (only) to ride his Tauntaun here. Don't try putting him elsewhere in any Hoth dioramas, unless you've got a custom Rebel toilet nearby for him! 8)

I'm just glad to see Hasbro putting the thought into making the various pieces/sets/figures all tie together in a cohesive manner like this (Han + Tauntaun). That's very encouraging that they're seeing a "bigger picture" now...
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: krisvds on April 10, 2003, 07:10 PM: Sign me up for one of the hoth sets ;D
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: DarthDan on April 13, 2003, 09:37 PM: I'd probably pick up the imperial pack. Sometimes I'm a sucker!!
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: DSJ™ on April 15, 2003, 08:15 AM: Looks like they will be expected to arrive in Canada. :)
As reported from Snowtroopers.ca, they are in the TRU computer.

1) Imperial 4-Pack SKU# 890537 Arrival: May

2) Ultimate Bounty Hunter 4-Pack SKU# 890510 Arrival: June - July

3) Hoth 4-Pack SKU# 890561 Arrival: Late July - August

4) Rebel 4-Pack SKU# 890545 Arrival: Late August - September

We shall see. ;)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: dustrho on April 15, 2003, 09:47 AM: I wish they would just release them all at the same time, like they did with the Target accessory sets.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: DSJ™ on April 26, 2003, 03:53 PM: They have started to show up on ebay, but only the Imperial Forces set thus far.
Imperial 4 Pack (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3128930889&category=2476)
Imperial Forces 4 Pack (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3128940957&category=2476)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2003, 11:42 AM: Update: The Bounty Hunter Multi Pack has now shown up on ebay. Someone Bin'd this one for $49.99. ::)
Bounty Hunter Multi Pack (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3129215803&category=2476)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Jedirhino on May 5, 2003, 05:08 PM: love the acessories and some army builders in the pack...hate them too many repacks of certain bounty hunters...would have rather had dengar, 4lom, or zuckuss...
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: dustrho on May 6, 2003, 12:03 AM: I haven't seen these anywhere around Chicago, but then again I haven't seen anything new since November.

>:(
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Snively Bandar on May 6, 2003, 12:59 AM: Quote from: dustrho on May 6, 2003, 12:03 AM
I haven't seen these anywhere around Chicago, but then again I haven't seen anything new since November.

That's probably because they haven't been released domestically yet! ;)

There's some of the typical early overseas pieces just now hitting eBay in the last week or so, so expect these to start hitting the States in about 3-4 weeks. I like getting the extra accessories in these, but can do without some of the rehashes included herein, especially when they were very easy to find the first time around. Zuckass was VHTF the first time around and definitely should've been in the Bounty Hunter set. :(
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Morgbug on May 7, 2003, 03:49 PM: I think 3-4 weeks in the US is too long. The first (BH) set is to arrive at TRU in Canada in May. It's May, they ain't here, but should be out for you folks any day.

Not sure if you'll see the staggered release like Canada will or not.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Scott on May 22, 2003, 08:59 PM: Just saw two reports on the net that the Imperial Forces pack has been spotted in Texas and SoCal...happy hunting :-*
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: dustrho on May 22, 2003, 09:34 PM: Quote from: OCB on May 22, 2003, 08:59 PM
Just saw two reports on the net that the Imperial Forces pack has been spotted in Texas and SoCal...happy hunting :-*

Does that mean they'll ever make it to the Chicagoland area? Ummm, no! :P
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Jedirhino on May 23, 2003, 06:55 AM: Perhaps not...
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Dimetrodon on May 23, 2003, 05:10 PM: i plan to stop by few places today, scope out the land for them upon hearing of them showing up.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: JediMAC on May 24, 2003, 12:40 AM: Quote from: OCB on May 22, 2003, 08:59 PM
Just saw two reports on the net that the Imperial Forces pack has been spotted in Texas and SoCal...happy hunting :-*

SCORE!!!

Based on a tip from my local collecting buddy Matthew (FishEyedLouie), I managed to snag the last two Imperial Forces 4-packs at our local TRU this evening! Thanks a ton Matt, I really appreciate the heads up! ;)

I'm going to take a gander at them for a little while, and see about opening one of them up and maybe posting a short review of the set in the Toy Reviews forum (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=8). Wish I had a damned digital camera though... :'(
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: dustrho on May 26, 2003, 12:55 PM: My wife and I stopped by our local TRU and they had about 6 of the Imperial 4-packs. She is so awesome that she let me pick up one of these, so what an awesome addition to my collection! :)

Now I'm debating if I want to leave this boxed up or if I want to open it up. What am I thinking? I'm not going to open it up. ;D
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Scott on May 28, 2003, 09:56 AM: Hasbro posted pics of the Hoth set, these have been floating around for a while now but here is the official version from them...

http://starwars.hasbro.com/pl/page.repnews/sec.story/id.121/dn/bh.cfm

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/5-03/hoth.jpg)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on May 28, 2003, 10:06 AM: Sweet, rubber Acklay guts molded in white! :)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Scott on May 28, 2003, 10:09 AM: Yep, I was never a fan or wanted a split belly Tauntaun but we're getting one. I'll buy this if only for the Astromech and Leia, she looks pretty sweet
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Scott on May 28, 2003, 10:13 AM: Dale also linked to this auction a while back,,,but here is the BH set

(http://ebay0.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_b674d1454397281e243d0af3c5126a57/i-1.JPG)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: CHEWIE on May 28, 2003, 11:06 AM: The Bounty Hyner set is definitely my least favorite of the three.

Money is tight for the next couple of weeks, so even if I saw the Impreial 4-pk I would probably have to pass. I am going to have to avoid TRU and all the other retailers until my paychecks start coming in from my new insurance sales job. :-\

:P
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: dustrho on May 28, 2003, 11:12 AM: Quote from: CHEWIE on May 28, 2003, 11:06 AM
The Bounty Hyner set is definitely my least favorite of the three.

WHY don't you like the Bounty Hunter set???? I think it's great!
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: dustrho on May 28, 2003, 11:13 AM: Quote from: OCB on May 28, 2003, 09:56 AM
Hasbro posted pics of the Hoth set, these have been floating around for a while now but here is the official version from them...

http://starwars.hasbro.com/pl/page.repnews/sec.story/id.121/dn/bh.cfm

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/5-03/hoth.jpg)

What is that big white thing in the lower right-hand corner of the package? I can't make out to what that is.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Scott on May 28, 2003, 11:14 AM: Tauntaun Guts
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Nicklab on May 28, 2003, 11:39 AM: So, has anyone mentioned that the Leia is a kitbash, yet? It's the POTJ Bespin Escape Leia body plus vest and a different head. The shoes or lack of boots are the giveaway.

The Tauntaun guts, if that's what they are, are a nice touch!
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: dustrho on May 28, 2003, 11:43 AM: Quote from: OCB on May 28, 2003, 11:14 AM
Tauntaun Guts

That's an odd accessory to add to something like this. I'd rather see something more useful than guts.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Darth Broem on May 28, 2003, 12:37 PM: I actually saw the Imperial 4pack at my Toys R Us over the weekend. I could not believe something new was there for once. First time in months I think. Anyway, I really want the Hoth 4pack for the Tauntaun open belly and also the guts!!! Yay...guts !!! :)

Oh yeah, I like the droid as well.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Nicklab on May 28, 2003, 12:43 PM: I can't wait to get the Imperial Forces 4-Pack. Another astromech. YAY!

Now I'm wondering, though...are people going to do to this set what they did to the EPISODE I Naboo royal Starship? People liked the astromech so much, they were cutting him out of the packaging. Hope that doesn't happen this time around.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: obi-dad on May 28, 2003, 12:47 PM: Quote
WHY don't you like the Bounty Hunter set???? I think it's great!

I can tell you why I don't like the Bounter Hunter set.... I have all the same figures when they were originally released and that is an EU speeder bike for a character that was in only one movie less than 5 seconds that was supposed to be further developed that never was and perhaps never will be (as far as movies go). I will buy the Hoth set (for the Taun Taun) and the Imperial set for everything but Vader. The Imperial set also is good for army builders, which neither the Hoth nor Bounty Hunter set is good for.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Scott on May 28, 2003, 01:29 PM: Here is a closeup of the gut pile...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/5-03/gutpile.jpg)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: FX-7 on May 28, 2003, 01:56 PM: Wow, that is neat, I like the Hoth and Imperial Ones, the Bounty Hunters stink unless you don't have those figures yet
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: MisterPL on May 28, 2003, 02:31 PM: Quote from: Nicklab on May 28, 2003, 11:39 AM
So, has anyone mentioned that the Leia is a kitbash, yet? It's the POTJ Bespin Escape Leia body plus vest and a different head. The shoes or lack of boots are the giveaway.

Is anyone else disappointed Leia doesn't have Hoth boots? It was the first thing I noticed. Of course I'm hopeless.

Does anyone know if Boba Fett is a ROTJ repaint or will he be sporting deco identical to the 300th figure TESB version? That would be an acceptable variant, not unlike the new Hoth Han lovely BLUE/crappy brown jacket figure. :D
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Muftak on May 28, 2003, 03:26 PM: I just bought the Imperial set this weekend, and reviewed it here. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=8;action=display;threadid=1342)

I'd say I was looking forward to it the most, but the Hoth set will be neat for the accessories. I'm really waiting to see how those old sculpts are painted inthe Bounty Hunter set, if they take them up a notch (like the cantina sets last year, which really transformed those old sculpts) then I'll buy it without question.

For the record, I wasn't particularly fond of Leia's incorrect shoes or her running pose.
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: krisvds on May 28, 2003, 04:43 PM: I love it even more !!!!! ;D
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: Jesse James on May 28, 2003, 05:46 PM: My opinion on the sets isn't changing too much, though hearing some negative things about the QUALITY of the Imperial set has sort of put a sour taste in my mouth. :-\

The Imperial set had the most appeal to me as an army builder, since the AT-ST (Imperial Army Regular) driver is sorely in need of a better sculpt, and that sorta fit the bill. The R4 astromech is always welcome, and of course stormtroopers can never be turned away. The Vader's sort of dejecting though, and just like the upcoming Saga Snowtrooper... WHY THE CANNON!? I have umpteen of those things already, I'm all repeating blastered out here.

The BH set has the least appeal to me, as has been pointed out by a few others... The swoop bike is a nice improvement over the SOTE swoop, but it's tough to justify buying 4 figures I already have for the bike... Like others have said though, if the deco on each figure is greatly improved I could maybe see it, but I'm just not so sure on that... I mean, nobody in the set can even ride the swoop, can they?

The Hoth set's title is a tad misleading... When I hear "Battle of Hoth", I don't expect what's given in the package. While the Taun Taun w/Guts is a nice addition for sure, the Hoth Luke, Lame Hoth Leia and astromech make it tough to stomach...

Now, had they made a "Major Derlin" variation out of a Luke figure (w/new head), and replaced Leia with a semi retooled Hoth footsoldier (Change the legs somehow and give use the upper body of the Deluxe soldier with Saga Han's arms) then I maybe would've been excited over this set. The astromech's not bad (But why not use R3-T7's body since it's better?) and the Taun Taun is ok, so I'll likely be more excited about this one than the BH set...

No matter what though, this 4-pack idea... Just like the Cantina Sets and accessory sets... isn't being given the best treatment, and Hasbro could've done better with the execution of these.

As always, Hasbro has nice ideas that they bungle in one way or another... From the army-building 4-packs in white boxes to these. There's always some lil screw-up that makes them not as cool as they COULD have been.

Too bad...
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: MisterPL on May 28, 2003, 06:58 PM: Quote from: Jesse James on May 28, 2003, 05:46 PM
As always, Hasbro has nice ideas that they bungle in one way or another... From the army-building 4-packs in white boxes to these. There's always some lil screw-up that makes them not as cool as they COULD have been.

In Hasbro's defense, I can't help but think this has more to do with TRU than anything else. Hasbro doesn't make toys for us, they make toys for the retailers. Retailers are especially hands-on when it comes to exclusive product development, and influence the regular line more than most collectors realize.

The inclusion of Darth Vader deterred me from picking up more than one Imperial Forces set, but it's easy to understand TRU's reluctance to have a set of nothing but second-stringers. Mass market retailers insist on main characters in everything. It's become a necessary evil.

I'm sure Wal-Mart believes their Cantina Sets didn't sell through as hoped because Obi-Wan, Luke, and Chewie weren't in there. ::)
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: jadesfire on May 28, 2003, 09:48 PM: Quote from: MisterPL on May 28, 2003, 06:58 PM
I'm sure Wal-Mart believes their Cantina Sets didn't sell through as hoped because Obi-Wan, Luke, and Chewie weren't in there. ::)

Do you know that a friend of mine actually said that!!?? ???
He was looking through some of my stuff and said, "Where's Chewie and Ben?, You'd think they'd give you a decent character instead of this one"...or something along that line (and no, he doesn't collect Star Wars :P ).
Title: Re: New Saga 4-packs: Love 'em or hate 'em?
Post by: CHEWIE on May 29, 2003, 02:46 AM: All new aliens with cool articulation and WEAPONS would have made the Cantina sets a much better success. It was a great concept, but executed poorly.

As for the BH set, everyone has pretty much summed it up for me already why I will be passing on it.

Count me in for 1 Hoth set, and 2-3 Imperial sets. If Vader hadn't been included, I am sure I would have gotten 5-10 sets once I got my finances settled.

:P