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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Original Trilogy Collection => Topic started by: Brian on January 29, 2004, 02:43 PM
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I noticed that SSG has a report from the UK Toy Fair. Unfortunately they (Hasbro) did not allow photos (probably waiting for the US Toy Fair I'm guessing), but they did give some details on what is coming. Here's the linky:
SSG's UK Report (http://sirstevesguide.com/news/?m=show&id=29927)
Apparently there will be an assortment known as the "Original Trilogy Collection" (cool!). There is also an explanation of new cardbacks, and new sculpted figures of R2-D2 (with sounds), OT Yoda, Dagobah Luke, and Spirit Obi Wan. There's more at the link. Personally, I'm excited to see confirmation of these figures (especially Luke/Yoda), and can't wait to see some pics.
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This is awesome, an entire LINE dedicated to the OT!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my, I'm going to wet my self and just wait until you see what Matt does
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Sounds pretty cool (A line dedicated to the OT), and like some winners could come from it for sure... I'm a little worried about what style of figures we get though... IE: statues, or actual action figures.
The R2 sounds interesting (As interesting as a Swamp R2 can be), Yoda had no description for some reason, the Obi-Wan sounded about what we'd expect. But, the Luke balancing on one hand has me a bit "iffy", as I'm curious if he'll be good for much else, or if the gimmick of him balancing will force (no pun) him into being a one-pose-wonder.
This could really be a great line, and the packaging sounded DEFINITELY aimed at us... :) Not that I care about packaging, but it works for me to see some black packaging on pegs like the old days.
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Oh my, I'm going to wet myself and just wait until you see what Matt does
Um... Yeah, I could use a little tissue, or TP, or sumthin' please... :-[
I noticed that SSG hasApparently there will be an assortment known as the "Original Trilogy Collection"...
Great news! Too bad they're not starting these new cardbacks up a little sooner, for all the 2004 product, as they sound pretty nice, and retro-like. I assume this also means that there will be a "Prequel Trilogy Collection" as well...? ??? I guess there'd have to be, if we're going to continue getting any figures from those movies as well. Or maybe they'll just continue on with those as part of the regular Saga line, without much hoopla. Who knows...
As for the Dagobah wave here, it sounds fairly promising. Though the original Spirit of Obi-Wan was a cool idea and figure for it's time, it could definitely use an update, especially it's pose. Hope it comes out nice, and neutral. A new ultimate ESB Yoda has long been needed. Hopefully Hasbro nails this one, as it's one of the most important characters/figures for the entire Saga. Force-balanced Dagobah Luke, eh? While it does have the unfortunate potential to be a one-pose wonder, a very cool pose it would be! But I'd still like to have another "less buff" and neutral Dagobah Luke as well. Hopefully Hasbro will figure out a way to make this figure work both ways, with some excellent articulation (including at the wrist?). Dagobah R2 was really the last incarnation of this character left to do (not counting the spray painted atrocity with the Dagobah X-Wing). Let's hope Hasbro figures out a more realistic method of yucking up poor R2, with some good mud and grime.
Boy, with all the OT product we already know about, I really wonder what's going to be left for this OTC line... Unless a lot of what we've already heard about is going to be issued in this line. Either way, very promising. I'm excited (and definitely a little wet, as Scott already pointed out :-[)...
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Another thing I'd really love to see with these new retro styled cards, is for Hasbro to revert to those old vintage visual checklists for all the figures on the back of the cards. Based on SSG's writeup of the cardback, it sounds like it might slightly be possible - "Following the above were pictures of other figures in that wave." Or that might just be similar to what we've already got right now. Hard to tell... God I loved those old Vintage cards... :'(
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Yeah, I'd love it if they did the cards old-style like that too. The vintage cards were great, and I always liked being able to see all of the figures on the back. I can remember when I got figures (specifically the ROTJ cards) that had 77+ figures shown on the back and basically thinking "got him, need him, got him" :P. Plus, it is just a neat look. Hopefully they do something similar....anything closer to the vintage-style is a positive move in my opinion. Now I'm wondering, is this a permanent move for the OT figures, or just a "limited time" thing (I thought something at Rebelscum maybe said "12 figures"). I hope I'm wrong, I'd like to see the OT figures continue to have their own line like this. We'll see I guess.
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Now I'm wondering, is this a permanent move for the OT figures, or just a "limited time" thing (I thought something at Rebelscum maybe said "12 figures").
It's a little confusing, but it sounds like there's going to be an entirely seperate line from this one Brian, which has 12 "Vintage styled" FIGURES (not cards). So I'm under the impression there's going to be two different OT kinda figure lines going on here. Of course, I may be entirely wrong... :-\
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Ok, that is what I was wondering about too Matt, thanks for clearing it up. Hopefully we'll get this all sorted out in a couple weeks at Toy Fair :).
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I like the idea of Vintage Styled Packaging, how about Super Articulated Ultimate Versions, how about Bloody loads of background characters ala DC Direct or Marvel Legends. It almost sounds like a Valor vs Venom type of system too, too bad 2 packs weren't in the works (maybe they are???)
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It almost sounds like a Valor vs Venom type of system too, too bad 2 packs weren't in the works (maybe they are???)
That's just what I was thinking when I read that as well Scott, when they mentioned "Rebel vs. Empire". Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the first thing that popped into my head was GI Joe's current line as well.
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BobaFett14 (Bob Raspet) has been pimping a Super Articulated "Vs." 2-pack line for a long time... Maybe Hasbro's been taking at least a couple notes from him?
I agree, this line could yield (Since it's obviously aimed at the older fans) some of the best figures of the modern line... Unfortunately, "whose best will they be?", could become a quesion.
To Hasbro, 300th Fett was the pinacle of their abilities... To me, Super Articulated Clone is their best... I just hope they go the SA route, and diverse background characters (And MUCH needed resculpts of main characters, like say a Han with trench coat perhaps?) are the route they're aiming for, and not the 300th Fett route.
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Aha!I get it!
Endor wave comes out in July and is the last saga wave.
Then in August/September we get the new line to coincide with the DVDs.
In April of 2005 the Original Trilogy line ends for Episode III.
So the way I see it is:
Now-July=Saga
August-April '05=Original Trilogy Collection
April 05-?=Episode III line.
Sadly it seems this year and next year ARE the last big hurah for Star Wars.Because,not much will be left to make by 2006-7 will there?Other than EU that is.
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So I take it that the Falcon is the vintage mold again? Not that I'm not impressed with the lights/sounds additions, but it could use some retooling.
No "but she's got it where it counts, kid" jokes, please. :)
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Yeah, I kinda wonder what's up with the vehicles here... There's been rumors for the past year or so that a suped up, and possibly even resculpted/larger Falcon was in the works. Might this be the case? I'd honestly doubt it. Personally, I'd MUCH rather they forego all the electronic bells and whistles that will probably be costly, and just remold the sucker into something even bigger and better! Pipe dream though, I'm sure... Hopefully those electronics don't add too much to the retail cost, 'cause I've already got two of these things, so if they want me to buy the same exact ship for the THIRD time, it better be worth it!
There's also a new Tie Fighter that's been rumored for a while too now - with the accurately proportioned larger wings, and the newly resculpted cockpit section from the KB exclusive Tie Fighter. Hopefully this is the case, and that this ship will show up on this OTC line. It'd be one helluva hot seller if those damned wings were fixed! I wonder if that newly listed Vader's Tie over at Amazon will come out before this line's debut, or will be included in it later on?
I also wonder if the X-Wing mentioned there is going to be the Red Leader X-Wing that we've already heard about, or if it's going to be something entirely new or different... As long as they make it so the pilot and droid are removable, and preferably so the call sign symbols are interchangeable somehow, I'd definitely buy a few!
I think the only other ANH vehicle from the vintage line missing here is the Landspeeder, which we already got a great resculpt of not too long ago. Of course, they could also delve into the other ships from ESB and ROTJ again too...
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Perhaps the long overdue Sandcrawler and Bespin Cloud Car will finally be making their debut in this OTC collection as well. As Nick reminded us yesterday, the Sandcrawler's confirmed as a Target exclusive for later this year, in the Fall. Sound like a good fit for the OTC.
Then, after Hasbro pulls their heads out of their butts and finally gives us the Cloud Car, we can concentrate our attention and efforts on getting that greatly desired Jabba's Sailbarge finally! 8)
Any other ships that we still need, or that are in desperate need of a resculpt? I'd love a resculpted, larger Skiff! That'd probably be my first request. I guess it would be cool to finally get a modern version of the Rebel Transport from ESB as well...
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Matt=Gregg?!Replying to ones self!tisk
Maybe that thrown room playset could come this year,eh?
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Well, it seems like this year is already focused almost entirely on the OT, so this news isn't really that much of a surprise to be honest. To me it just sounds like we're getting a different packaging design is all, which is perfectly cool with me. Some redone OT ships would certainly be welcomed, but like most, I'd prefer some new sculpts for my money.
I just hope they stick with the OT focus right up to the release of Episode 3. 8)
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Oh man, the news from Hasbro just keeps getting better.
Can't wait to see pics of this stuff. Still have to wait two weeks, I guess.
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Aha!I get it!
Endor wave comes out in July and is the last saga wave.
Then in August/September we get the new line to coincide with the DVDs.
In April of 2005 the Original Trilogy line ends for Episode III.
So the way I see it is:
Now-July=Saga
August-April '05=Original Trilogy Collection
April 05-?=Episode III line.
Sadly it seems this year and next year ARE the last big hurah for Star Wars...
That sounds as good as anything I've heard yet. My only objection to what you have there is with the "April 05'-?= Episode III Line". I think at that point the line will converge once again to encompasse the entire trilogy cast of characters. Think back to the AOTC debut on the, then new, Saga "Twirl" Blue Cards. The first month (April) saw only AOTC figures, nothing else. However, the second month (May) saw the introduction of non-AOTC figures in the form of Bespin Duel Luke, Bespin Duel Vader, Qui-Gon Jinn and the first version of the Endor Rebel Soldier. After that, the OT and E1 figures began to balance out a bit more with the AOTC figures. I've no reason (yet) to doubt Hasbro will disturb this well-working method for E3.
As for this being "the last big hurrah for Star Wars", I would have to disagree. Once the films are all done and there are no more movie tie-in options for them and the kids are but a memory, we'll still be here. I'm sure Hasbro will go to great lengths to keep the collector base it's established throughout the years. I also honestly believe that, to quote a tired old cliché'; the best is yet to come.
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Matt=Gregg?!Replying to ones self!tisk
:o Ouch! You tryin' to get on my $h!tlist or something, Andrew?!? ;) But yeah, I had some further thoughts on the vehicles there, and for whatever reason (mostly my prior post was already pretty long), I decided to just make another new post shortly after it, unlike when I usually just make an edit and add onto the original. Damn, now you're making me all self-conscious, dammit! >:( :-[
:::crawls off and curls up in the corner in shame:::
So the way I see it is:
Now-July=Saga
August-April '05=Original Trilogy Collection
April 05-?=Episode III line.
I'd say that's probably partly accurate, but is still potentially missing some pieces. First, that "Vintage Collection" of 12 figures will supposedly be rolling out at some point later this year. Also, I don't think the first two Prequels are going to be completely ignored from the point that the OTC debuts up 'til Ep. 3. There's still a number of Prequel figures that are highly rumored to be coming out in the near future, so I'd say there's got to be some other line concurrently running with the OTC to support said figures. Just a question of whether they call it the PTC, or just leave it as Saga, or what... But I'd be pretty surprised if Hasbro just completely shunned the Prequels for about 8 or 9 straight months. It's certainly possible, but I don't think too likely...
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Yeah I think Matt's right, I think Saga will continue, OTC will debut alongside and will run throughout Episode III's run...sort of like Collection 1 and Collection 2, perhaps there might even be a Collection 3 like back in the day
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For the vehicle issue...
I'm not sure what to make of what's listed. I half expect the TIE Fighter and X-Wing to be the Vader TIE and Red Leader ships... And a Falcon will just be something we've yet to see. I could be wrong of course, but ALL those ships in a single year? Seems fishy to me is all.
I'd take LOTS of things resculpted though...
-To-scale AT-ST... This easily tops my list, and if they ever did this I'd be in line to buy a half dozen of them. No walking feature, just poseable legs. Cockpit built for two (or two ewoks and a wookie)... Could be a very nice item, though one I'm not personally expecting. Oh, and opening window armor would be kinda neat too.
-To-Scale Snowspeeder... I'd LOVE to see this one done to the proper size for the action figures. Include a Generic Dak (with removable helmet) type of pilot this time, and I'd dig it even more, but even without figures this is easily my 2nd most requested item.
-To-Scale Speederbike w/super articulated scout... I'd take this in a heartbeat, and I think others would as well. I'd be lining up to buy this one too, and in droves. If for no other reason than simply to get an army of nice SA scouts.
-To-Scale TIE Fighter... They're close... Just need to fix the panels at this stage since they have the proper cockpit mold now. Again I'd buy this one in multiples.
-To-Scale Tatooine Skiff... Lower on my list, but the original is a bit undersized so I'd take a newly detailed and sized one. With the new Skiff Lando, I can just imagine him hanging off of a new skiff.
Beyond that, I'm not sure of anything that I'd consider "reasonable" to expect from Hasbro at this point... I mean, I want the age-old "Modular Millenium Falcon" done to have a full scale Falcon but I just don't see them ever bothering with it... I want a full scale Sail Barge (Not as big as people think), but just can't imagine it being done. Lots of play value with a vehicle like that, and it's really more a playset than a ship, but I'd love one either way...
The ships I listed are the only things I'm expecting them to ever retool really. Possibly a Y-Wing... I'd like that if it were to-scale too, but the Y-Wing seems to be an area Hasbro doesn't wanna get too close to.
It'd be nice to see all the fighters redone personally, and done larger, but I can just imagine the uproar everyone would have who bought the X-Wings they've put out already. I'm just tired of my A-Wings almost being as big as all the other ships. :P
Anyway, I'd take some of the ones I listed though for sure... To me, they're the most absurd looking vehicles in the line when compared to other newer vehicles, or even the detail put into the figures. Things like the AT-ST and such just look bad in comparison.
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I just hope they stick with the OT focus right up to the release of Episode 3. 8)
I have to disagree. I think with the PT, we have a whole fresh garden of background charachters, pod racers, Jedi, and Clone Wars things that could be concentraited on, especialy leading up to the release of E3. Then afterward, a combination line of the entire series could be distributed, with a few more fan choice figures, with some emphasis on army builders.
Thats just me speaking though.
Kevin
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I think you're right about the saga line.Kinda like the Clone Wars line and the Saga line I guess?
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I second the nomination for a new, properly scaled Snowspeeder. I think it's the only vehicle Hasnro has ever made that was too big!
If you look at the snowspeeder closely, it's not much longer than two guys sitting back to back. It could be a small, cool little toy.
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You got that right.I would buy 5 or 6 properly scaled one.
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Me, too. ;D
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Anyone catch a glimpse of the blurry OTC boxed Falcon (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2004/newfalcon.jpg) picture over at RS a couple days ago, from the London Toy Fair? Pretty vintage-esque looking, but probably not too "eye-catching" in the retail aisles. But that's fine, since these are being pumped out for the "adult collectors"...
I like the vintage nod here, but again, the confusion remains over the "vintage styled..." items. Still assuming there's going to be the "vintage styled" packaging of the OTC, and then a whole separate "vintage styled" line of figures (not OTC)....
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I just reread the story over at SSG and it says new items on Vintage Style packaging, so there you have it :-*
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Rebelscum has posted what may be a possible logo for the Original Trilogy Collection, pretty cool. I really hope that we get a look at some of the figures/packaging for this collection at Toy Fair this weekend :).
Original Trilogy Collection (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.collectinghq.com/im/0003896.jpg)
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Sounds very cool. What would really make me scream was if they released the figs in the "Vintage Position' (Neutral Pose) with SA Clone articulation. That would be too awesome!
I do hope we see some new vehicles as well. I'm guessing that the new Falcon will be included in the line. Maybe the new Red Leader X-Wing will as well? I also hope to see the Sandcrawler or Cloud Car.
All in all, it's a good idea that has me excited!
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(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/HAN_OTC.jpg)
(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/85234_MF_pack.jpg)
OT Collection update (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.headlines/id.1004/dn/default.cfm)
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They sure are purty. Just wish they would lay off of the Han Cantina sculpt. how many times will it be now that this has been released. Overall, very sweet package, to bad they dont stick with this design from here on out.
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Another Ask Yoda doll? Why?
The color scheme on the cardback & Falcon box look cool though! 8)
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This is a great surprise for Friday, I figured we wouldn't see/hear much until Sunday. It is nice to have some clarification now too on the "Original Trilogy Collection" and the 12 vintage-styled figures (4 from each movie). Looking at those pictures, those figures seem to be very well articulated, neutrally-stanced, and nicely sculpted. Kind of what we have been asking for for awhile now. I'm not quite sure what to think of the soft-goods on Obi and Luke, but they do look great. Even though we've gotten a lot of Cantina Han, I think this figure looks terrific...and I can't wait to see them on the vintage cardbacks.
(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/85224-Han.jpg)
(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/85214_luke.jpg)
(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/85215-ObiWan.jpg)
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This is NOT what I was expecting out of a "Vintage" OT collection. Clearly the emphasis is on the character selection and the packaging, not adding vintage-style sculpted figures to Kenner's original line. This is BETTER. ;D
However, I expect this to be a more expensive line. Given the double packaging and apparently generous articulation on these figures, depending on how many get ordered by retailers, I'm guessing these figures will sell for anywhere between $6.99 and $9.99.
I'm also thinking this is Hasbro's way of testing the uber-articulation market, gauging demand and collector support for similar post-Episode III figures.
Contemplations?
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This is what I've been waiting for!!! :D
That ANH Han is perfect! Finally we'll have a Han that can have both arms down by his side. I'll be doing a bit of customizing with a POTJ Bespin Han to make a ROTJ Han to replace that god-awful SAGA Endor Han. This is great, great news.
Luke and Obi-Wan also look cool. I can't wait to see more pics of these guys. I bet that Obi-Wan will be able to sit in the Landspeeder too! And that Luke looks like he may be to scale. Finally I won't have to display any more tall ANH Lukes.
I'm one of those people that likes softgoods. What many people don't realize, is that you can generally make the softgoods look better than it does when its fresh out of the package. Just wet it, and mold it to your liking. It tends to stay a little more "molded" after that. If you really want it to stay, a little hairspray will do the trick, too.
And the Falcon has been retooled to fit 3 figures??? Did I read that correctly? I wonder if there's been any work done on the inside. If its really big enough to fit at least Han and Chewie in the cockpit, then I may customize the interior also.
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I originally thought those were 12" figs, that's why I didn't post them the previous pics. I thought they looked great as 12" figs, but are 10x better when I found out they're only 3 3/4". Awesome!
Any guesses as to the remaining 9?
I'll say:
ANH:
Luke
Han
Obi
Princess Leia
ESB:
Lando
Darth Vader
Boba Fett
Yoda
ROTJ:
Chewie
R2-D2
C-3PO
Stormtrooper
If this line is only limited to twelve figs, which if I'm reading correctly, is the case, then Hasbro would probably want to pick the twelve most identifying characters in the Saga. And I would want the first costume each character appeared in, as its the most iconic. Now obviously, the Vader, droids, Chewie and Stormtrooper didn't change costumes throughout the trilogy (or the changes are barely noticeable), so you could push those back to the later movies.
I hope Hasbro does it this way and doesn't release multiple costumes. I think this lineup would work for what they are trying to accomplish - market the OT on DVD and harken back to the vintage days. Hoepfully, we'll know the rest of the line up after this weekend.
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Hi Guys,
Just noticed this...
EE updated with case assortments for OTC this morning too!
"Star Wars - The Original Trilogy Collection 3 3/4 inch Basic Action Figure Assortment Wave 7. Loosely based on the Dagobah theme. Includes all-new vintage-style packaging that resembles the original line of Kenner Star Wars action figures.
Contains 12 individually packaged action figures including
2x Luke Skywalker - Dagobah,
2x Yoda - Dagobah,
1x Spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi,
2x R2-D2 - Dagobah Swamp,
1x Luke Skywalker - X-Wing Pilot,
1x Luke Skywalker - Jedi,
1x Han Solo,
1x Chewbacca,
1x Darth Vader (subject to change). All information and descriptions are subject to change. More details coming soon!"
The case price is the same as recent cases, $65. plus shipping.
Hmmm...
They also say that the "Vintage" type figures will be a case of 8 figures for $89.99 (over $10 each). No case assortment for these yet though...
Jeff
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FINALLY!! We get a Leia (Bespin) figure!! These waves look great!
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Thanks for the tip Jeff ;)...
2 thoughts, I wonder if they will somehow squeeze POTJ X-Wing Luke on the Gold Leader body
Wowza is all I can say to all of the other stuff, its an AWESOME day for everyone I think, multi articulated CORE characters, some awesome needed and long rumored resculpts, a Cloud Car Pilot, I just about wet myself this morning!
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Yeah, this really is a tremendous day for collectors. Everything shown looks pretty great, and to be honest I am almost most excited about the "vitnage-esque" line. In a way I'm almost disappointed it is only 12 figures, but we'll have to see who the rest will end up being. If you think about it, this is basically combines what many of us have been talking about and asking for for awhile now:
1. Super articulated "definitive" versions of the main characters.
2. Cards similar (or in this case, exactly) like our favorite vintage versions.
If the rest of the line is as well articulated as Han looks to be, I don't think we'll be disappointed. I would think (and really hope), that a well-articulated Vader has to be included somewhere. I hope we hear more about this, this weekend. The Dagobah and Bespin waves are great though...too bad it is the last of the themed waves. This really is shaping up to be the best year of Star Wars collecting, at least since I have been collecting.
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I just about wet myself this morning!
Me too.
Very exciting time for OT fans.
I was happy to see that most of use were on the right track, that the OTC and the "vintage" issues are two separate lines!
The EE case report also helps solidify a UK news report (from theprivateunivers.com via Stan at rebelscum) about the X-Wing Luke, Cantina Han, Vader being shown on the back of the Falcon box.
http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=008248#000000
Jeff
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Got my orders in
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I haven't ordered figures online for awhile now, and I have been trying to stay away from doing it...but I really worry about missing out on the vintage-updated figures, because I think the combination of them being really articulated, well done versions of the main characters...and on vintage cards with a collectible case...will make these hot items with a lot of people. I have been thinking about ordering a case of these from EE...for those of you who have used them, have you had good luck? I've pretty much only gone through Kebco, who do pretty well....but you sometimes have to wait forever and a day for it to get to you. Just curious. The Dagobah wave is also tempting to order, since Yoda will be a hot commodity I am sure.
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I've no problems in the past Brian, I think every order has been filled. I'm a little worried right now though, seems like Hasbro cancelled a bunch of case orders for Newforce (Hoth, Tatooine and 2003 Coll 1 Repacks) so hopefully this isn't a sign that etailers are getting screwed by Hasbro :-\
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(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/HAN_OTC.jpg)
This is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen... Hands down the best packaging of the modern era, and dare I say the vintage era as well (though their cardback visual checklists will always be #1). I could go for a slightly smaller Rebel Insignia there, but other than that, I'm in love. The figure specific backdrop behind the figure there, along with the vintage styling, is just breathtaking. I just wish Hasbro would've started this new OTC packaging with the earlier Hoth and Tatooine waves, so they could've all been equally as nice...
That boxed Falcon shot is very sweet looking as well! I'm sure the vehicles they've got pictured there are just stand-in's for that shot, and that the actual ones will have some tweaks and revisions made to them (like hopefully accurate wings on the Tie finally).
And just so there's no confusion, that Luke/Han/Ben there aren't really part of the OTC collection here, technically. They'll be on repro vintage (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=3294;start=msg45966#msg45966) cardbacks from the 70's and 80's, and at a higher price point from what Jeff's mentioned.
Looks like it's gonna be a wonderful, wonderful year. Anyone think we can get Lucas to postpone Episode 3 for another year or two, so we can keep up with all this OT goodness and love?!? 8)
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Man, I am going to scream like a schoolgirl on helium when I find these at retail... :)
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Man, I am going to scream like a schoolgirl on helium when I find these at retail... :)
Me too, but my mind keeps telling me these will be like the last wave of EP1 figures, and will be extremely rare to find. After all these seem to be the last wave of Saga figures, cause EPIII is coming ot next spring! These are fal figures, and will probably not see retail till winter!
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? When do you guys think we will see a sneak peek at EPIII, didnt they show the Obi-Wan Kenobi (Coruscant Chase) figure in winter 2001, if i am correct, so mayeb we will see a sneak peek EPIII figure soon, i hope so, but when do you guys think we will see it or them?
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Anyone think we can get Lucas to postpone Episode 3 for another year or two, so we can keep up with all this OT goodness and love?!? 8)
lol
I would never have asked for a delay in Episode 3 before today, but you're right. With all these OT goodies in the pipeline it'll be a shame when the Ep3 figures muscle their way onto the shelves...
Jeff
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All that I can say is WOW!!! :o :o :o :o :o
I cannot wait for these to hit the stores. I want them all even the vehicles.
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And the Falcon has been retooled to fit 3 figures??? Did I read that correctly? I wonder if there's been any work done on the inside. If its really big enough to fit at least Han and Chewie in the cockpit, then I may customize the interior also.
Yeah, you did read that incorrectly Ed. This is what they said:
Additionally, the cockpit has been redesigned to fit the 3 ¾” figures more easily.
The "3" just pops out at you a little more than the 3/4 part does. It does sound like the cockpit interior has been redesigned a little bit though, to fit the newer modern figures - especially the accurately scaled Chewies that we've been getting. So at least they dealt with that issue, which is a very good thing.
So does anyone have any idea what wave of figures the new OTC designed cardbacks are going to debut with? God, I hope it's soon, 'cause after seeing the new design, all the current cards makes me want to puke! :-X It unfortunately sounds like it might not be until the Dagobah wave though... :-\
Normally I'm not a fan of re-carding a bunch of old rehash figures, but if Hasbro wanted to re-release all of their previous hundreds of figures on these new OTC cardbacks, I'd probably buy every last one of 'em! I just love those character specific scenes behind the figure, combined with the vintage styled packaging. Brilliant work by Hasbro. 8)
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I almost had a heart attack after I saw pictures of these! :o This is definitely the most beautiful packaging I have seen since POTF2 came out. Even the new logo is sweet as hell. Damn, I pray that I can find these in stores.
I'm too excited to look in this thread, but did anyone read the one sentence that stuck out on Hasbro's news page? It states, "For those that want to keep the product in the package, the figures will come with a Star Wars embossed outer clamshell." Now THAT is awesome news! That seems to be one of the first times I've heard them actually care about the carded-collectors out there. ;D
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"That seems to be one of the first times I've heard them actually care about the carded-collectors out there. "
Actually, all of the window packaged vehicles are aimed at an audience the does not open what they buy.
This new card does look beautiful. But I can't help think...why didn't they look like this in 1995? It's just so obvious.
Anyway, until we all figure out who is on what kind of card, and which cards are clamshelled, and so on, I'm not going to get excited.
Because if all this fancy packaging creates less figures for this year, I'll be a bit bummed. I was really hoping for the Cantina wave to be announced. And, please don't throw stones, what about the preqeuls? They need a little sugar too.
One more bit...maybe when E3 hits, the cards will stay the same, but just the bubble insert will change. Now that would be great.
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**rolls a rock on Speedermikes head**
j/k of course. :)
The packaging is of no consequence to me... I'd rather they just carded stuff as always. I'm not a firm believer in catering to the packaging crowd other than to do your best to make sure the packaging doesn't sucumb to damage easily (like the saga cards have been known to do).
Not to say a big "Bite Me" to the carded guys or anything, I just wouldn't wanna incur a price hike because of this, and as we're seeing with LOTR's toy line going the OPPOSITE way and their prices going down, I just hope that this won't be the situation we're in.
No matter what though, I'm jonesin' for SA figures going well beyond this small batch. We gotta see more.
We gotta see SA army builders (the most deserving), and possibly SA versions of the core characters in their variious other duds. SA Bespin Escape Leia anyone? SA Han Bespin? SA Han, Luke, and Leia Endor with soft goods accessries? SA Rebel Fleet, Hoth, and Endor Troopers? SA Storm, Scout, Snow, and Sandtroopers? Yes, I think so to all these.
Some Prequal era SA figures would be nice too. SA Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Maul? I'd buy that 3-pack, thank ya kindly.
I'm loving that Hasbro's making what they are though, and will only be disappointed if they leave it at this. I remember so many people saying they'd not do this very thing to me, and now it's happening, and I'm just loving it. :)
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Word, Jesse. :)
I'm really excited. Not so much about the 'vintage' figs, but more about the 'regular' stuff, which actually is better than regular.
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Entertainment Earth has them available for pre-order, here they are:
(http://fp.entertainmentearth.com/frontpage/starwars_big_button3.gif)
Original Trilogy Basic Figures Wave 7
Estimated Ship Date - June 2004
Item Number - HS84715K
Price: $64.99
Star Wars - The Original Trilogy Collection 3 3/4 inch Basic Action Figure Assortment Wave 7. Loosely based on the Dagobah theme. Includes all-new vintage-style packaging that resembles the original line of Kenner Star Wars action figures. Contains 12 individually packaged action figures including 2x Luke Skywalker - Dagobah, 2x Yoda - Dagobah, 1x Spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi, 2x R2-D2 - Dagobah Swamp, 1x Luke Skywalker - X-Wing Pilot, 1x Luke Skywalker - Jedi, 1x Han Solo, 1x Chewbacca, 1x Darth Vader (subject to change). All information and descriptions are subject to change. More details coming soon!
(http://fp.entertainmentearth.com/AUTOIMAGES/HS84715K.jpg)
Original Trilogy Vintage Figures Wave 1
Estimated Ship Date - June 2004
Item Number: HS85213A
Price: $89.99
Star Wars - The Original Trilogy Collection 3 3/4 inch Special Edition Vintage Figure Assortment Wave 1. This series will eventually include figures based on the characters from the first twelve Star Wars action figures ever made. Brought to life with incredible articulation and life-like detail, each figure will have enhanced articulation and premium decorations. Case of 8 individually packaged figures may contain Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi. Includes vintage-style packaging that resembles the original 1978 line of Kenner Star Wars action figures. Each figure comes packaged in a protective case. Exact figures and quantity included in this case are unknown at this time. All information and descriptions are subject to change. More details coming soon!
(http://fp.entertainmentearth.com/AUTOIMAGES/HS85213Alg.jpg)
I pre-ordered mine already!
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Although i dont really like the Vintage style of these Han, Luke figures they are to skinny!! But they will probably never be seen in stores, so i had to order them.
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I almost had a heart attack after I saw pictures of these! :o This is definitely the most beautiful packaging I have seen since POTF2 came out. Even the new logo is sweet as hell. Damn, I pray that I can find these in stores.
I'm too excited to look in this thread, but did anyone read the one sentence that stuck out on Hasbro's news page? It states, "For those that want to keep the product in the package, the figures will come with a Star Wars embossed outer clamshell." Now THAT is awesome news! That seems to be one of the first times I've heard them actually care about the carded-collectors out there. ;D
What does that mean " For those that want to keep the product in the package, the figures will come with a Star Wars embossed outer clamsheel" What is that?
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To me that sounds like they're basically coming in Hasbro's own version of a Starcase. A clear plastic case that folds and snaps shut around the card, sort of like the plastic cases the 2packs at Kmart were in, except resealable.
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oh! Okay that is cool. ;)
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Well,I like it,except for all the darn rehashes.
-Biker Scout
-POTJ Luke X-Wing
-Wicket
-POTF Leia
-Saga Vader Thrown Room
-C-3PO
-Han(WTF?!4th time reissue)
I know I'm forgeting some,but still!That's quite a hefty number!
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i think this is probably the best news carded collectors will ever get. even us openers are going to be happy, the articulation looks totally rad. i'll never see these in stores, i'l probably never even get them. SSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDD.
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Hmmm...
My brain always seems to think a step ahead.
OK, so the first case assortment is out and it is scheduled to contain:
OTC-01 Luke Skywalker (The Empire Strikes Back)
OTC-02 Yoda (The Empire Strikes Back)
OTC-03 Obi-Wan Kenobi (The Empire Strikes Back)
OTC-04 R2-D2 (The Empire Strikes Back)
OTC-05 Luke Skywalker (A New Hope)
OTC-06 Luke Skywalker (Return of the Jedi)
OTC-07 Han Solo (A New Hope)
OTC-08 Chewbacca (The Empire Strikes Back)
OTC-10 Darth Vader (Return of the Jedi)
That leaves 12 figures to be released:
OTC-09 Princess Leia (A New Hope)
OTC-11 Biker Scout (Return of the Jedi)
OTC-12 R2-D2 (A New Hope)
OTC-13 C-3PO (A New Hope)
OTC-14 Boba Fett (Return of the Jedi)
OTC-15 Obi-Wan Kenobi (A New Hope)
OTC-16 Stormtrooper (A New Hope)
OTC-17 Wicket (Return of the Jedi)
OTC-18 Princess Leia (The Empire Strikes Back)
OTC-19 Cloud Car Pilot (The Empire Strikes Back)
OTC-20 Lobot (The Empire Strikes Back)
OTC-21 TIE Fighter Pilot (A New Hope)
Hmmm.... 12 Figures left to be released, that's the same as the usual number of figures in a case.
I wonder then if this will be the mix for the next case (the last 12 at 1 per case) OR if there will be two more cases to come: a Bespin wave case and a pure re-card case???
Hmmm....
Jeff
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ok, well i was looking at pictures from Toy Fair, and was also looking at pictures of old original vintage figures, and is Hasbro going to make the actual figure "hard plastic" like this :
(http://www.brianstoys.com/acatalog/Vint_Carded_AFA_SW_Luke12Back.jpg)
Or is it going to be more updated with a soft cloak, etc...
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Well,I like it,except for all the darn rehashes.
-Biker Scout
-POTJ Luke X-Wing
-Wicket
-POTF Leia
-Saga Vader Thrown Room
-C-3PO
-Han(WTF?!4th time reissue)
I know I'm forgeting some,but still!That's quite a hefty number!
It's not Hasbros intention to get you to buy all the repacks every time they change cards, it is however a bonus for them if you happen to be a completist and buy them all anyway. The true reason iss to keep certain figures regularly available to the casual fan/child/collector. Just like back in the real vintage days when you could still get the same 1977 Luke sculpt well into the mid-eighties. As I posted on another thread, I'm sure the repacks are just beginning. Wait till you start seeing entire lines repackaged on a new card. That will really piss off some of the new collectors.
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I've got to agree that these card designs may just be the best ever! They should've started them a lot earlier though. >:( I find it very hard to believe though that this line will only contain 7 new figures from the Bespin and Dagobah waves, plus all the rereleases. There's got to be more on tap than just that, and I'd imagine that Hasbro will recard the "vintage 12" onto these OTC cards, after their "limited" release is quickly finished with. It'd be a shame not to get those definitive figures out into wider circulation if the rumors of their limited availability hold true.
I really think that Hasbro will run the OTC up to the Ep. 3 launch. As some people pointed out already, they could easily just alter the insert if they wanted to throw some prequel figures from TPM and AOTC into the mix later on. There's still a lot of rumored figures on OCB's list up top here that I would think are still due out before Ep. 3, so hopefully Hasbro's got a few more unannounced tricks up their sleeves.
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According to reports I read at both TheJawa.com, as well as the Jedi Temple Archives, the latest Insider (along with confirming those ships), has this tidbit on the Original Trilogy Collection:
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And, if that was not enough news for you there was the confirmation that the OTC basic line will include only 2 waves of newly sculpted characters. The Dagobah wave will kick the line off, re-carded figures will hit the shelves during the year and the Cloud City wave will round out 2004. The figures on the Retro Cards will "have added articulation and deco - more than Hasbro usually includes on basic figures".
Pictures of the Sandcrawler and the Retro Carded Leia can be seen on pages 85 and 86 in this month's Insider!
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So I guess that might be some sort of confirmation that there's only two waves of "new" figures for the rest of the year. I thought we might see some more surprises towards the end of the year, and maybe we still will. They'll be starting up the Episode 3 hype machine by then, so you never know.
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That'd really suck if OTC was limited to just those two new waves, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to be the case though. Hasbro's pointed out that this line can (will?) carry Prequel figures as well (just not with the "OTC" monniker), so I think this line will likely be continuing right up to the April 2005 release of the Episode 3 figure line.
So considering the Dagobah and Bespin waves are due out late summer, that leaves another 6-7 months for other as of yet unannounced figures to come out, and that includes the all-important Holiday shopping season, which I'm sure Hasbro's not going to want to completely miss out on with no new Star Wars product.
I'm just pissed that they didn't get the whole OTC thing going a lot earlier, to include all of the OT focused releases starting with the Hoth and Tatooine waves a few months ago. Instead, we're still stuck with the crappy Saga packaging... :-\
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Yeah, after looking at the new packaging shots up at GH, I'm even for repacks of the rest of the year's line. Especially the Star Destroyer wave. The new cardbacks are amazing, the best ever, I think.
I'm still not sure how good PT stuff would look on these cards, however. Maybe I should put a mock together and see. It seems like the new cards feel so "right", so OT, that putting PT stuff on the exact same card would diminish its goodness. Maybe a very similar card design, with some slightly altered elements that the educated eye could identify as PT-based.
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Good God, they're just as beautiful as the first Han card that we'd seen. Without a doubt - the best Star Wars packaging of all time. 8) I just wish that figure stand wasn't so prominently displayed in the bubble like that. Detracts from the cool backdrop phote just a bit...
I'd love for them to recard the entire modern era on these OTC cards! :o :P
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***zap!***
Maybe PT figs wouldn't be so bad on the card. Just doesn't seem right, though.
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I'd love for them to recard the entire modern era on these OTC cards! :o :P
Considering its pretty effortless to do it, don't encourage them! ;)
***zing!***
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Sweet crap, those look awesome Jared! Damn, now I really do want them all recarded! If not, maybe you can just make me a bunch of customs... 8)
That Han w/ Carbonite is way too cool.
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Wow, I agree, that Han Bespin with Carbonite is awesome. I saved that pic to my computer just because I thought it looked so cool :P. I never understood why they didn't re-release that Han anyways (instead of the Commtech version)...the POTJ Bespin Capture one is one of my favorite figures of all time. Anyways, I agree with Matt, I wish they would have started this cardback at least at the beginning of 2004, with the Hoth and Tatooine waves. The samples shown over at GH look amazing, and I think the coolness of the cardbacks alone will tempt me to pick up the repacks they release that I already have. The backdrop just looks so cool behind them. I think we will end up seeing something else new yet this year too, because I have a hard time believing that the Bespin wave (hits late summer at least doesn't it?) would be the last "new" wave we'd see this year. I saw now this morning over at Yakface that the Private Universe is reporting that we will see Episode III preview figures around the time of the DVD release. Wonder if its true... Anyways, this OTC packaging is superb though....and nice work on these Tydirium :).
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**POOF!**
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Thanks guys for the compliments on those, glad you liked them. (And I should probably credit RS and GH for the loose shots I pilfered). I did the 1st mock-up and got all excited at the prospects of how cool the recarded figures could actually be. I can't believe I just said that! Bring on the recards! ;D
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wow, those look awesome!! maybe we should pull one of that other site's tricks and put them on the front page saying "click here for more" and then tell people it's just a scam after they get all excited ::)
but they do look great... now make all the rest ;D
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EE has new Case ASsortments with...some new repacks ::)
Wave 9
1x Princess Leia (NEW), 2x Biker Scout (NEW), 1x Luke Skywalker - Dagobah, 1x Yoda - Dagobah, 1x Spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi, 1x R2-D2 - Dagobah Swamp, 1x Luke Skywalker - X-Wing Pilot, 1x Luke Skywalker - Jedi, 1x Han Solo, 1x Chewbacca, 1x Darth Vader
Wave 10
2x Greedo (NEW), 1x R2-D2 (NEW), 2x TIE Fighter Pilot (NEW), 2x Luke Skywalker - Bespin Outfit (NEW), 1x Luke Skywalker - Dagobah, 1x Luke Skywalker-Jedi, 1x Yoda - Dagobah, 1x R2-D2 - Dagobah Swamp, 1x Wicket
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I was afraid these next waves would be mostly repacks. Not too bad on wave 10. I guess I'll have to wait and see how they hit around here before I place any more pre-orders.
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EE has new Case ASsortments with...some new repacks ::)
Wave 9
1x Princess Leia (NEW), 2x Biker Scout (NEW), 1x Luke Skywalker - Dagobah, 1x Yoda - Dagobah, 1x Spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi, 1x R2-D2 - Dagobah Swamp, 1x Luke Skywalker - X-Wing Pilot, 1x Luke Skywalker - Jedi, 1x Han Solo, 1x Chewbacca, 1x Darth Vader
Wave 10
2x Greedo (NEW), 1x R2-D2 (NEW), 2x TIE Fighter Pilot (NEW), 2x Luke Skywalker - Bespin Outfit (NEW), 1x Luke Skywalker - Dagobah, 1x Luke Skywalker-Jedi, 1x Yoda - Dagobah, 1x R2-D2 - Dagobah Swamp, 1x Wicket
So, let's see. Greedo wasn't listed yet, or was Bespin Luke. So, we're up to 24 OTC figures then? The previous 21 plus Greedo, Luke, and Scanning Trooper. That's 7 new figures, 17 re-packs for those keep ing track at home.
Hmmm... wait. I don't see Scanning Trooper in either of those waves. That must mean that there is at least one more of these re-pack waves to come...
Jeff
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Good call Nataku, I wonder how many repack figures we'll end up having in the OTC when all is said and done. Everything that has been said, printed, etc., has pointed to the Dagobah and Bespin waves being the only new ones in the line. Maybe there will be a couple of year end surprises yet though. I sure am glad they came up with the VOTC, because those figures have all looked great so far. Hopfully they won't be as limited as they think, because they are definitely the highlight of the year....and one of the few "new" things we'll be getting the second part of this year.
I'm still not sure what to think of all the repacks. I'd rather have new figures, but I will say I like the packaging of the OTC and it might even persuade me to pick up a few figures I already have...and I'm not even a carded collector. Some of their choices for repacks don't look too bad, but if they are going to do it anyways there are some other ones they could add. I'd like to see the POTJ Bespin Capture Han get re-released as wel, that was always one of my favorite figures. Of course, I'm not condoning the re-releases either, I'd rather have new stuff too :).
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OK, so I made a list of the waves so far (4 waves/case assortments announced). Here's the blend of figures so far:
4x OTC-01 Luke Skywalker (The Empire Strikes Back) [DAGOBAH]
4x OTC-02 Yoda (The Empire Strikes Back)
2x OTC-03 Obi-Wan Kenobi (The Empire Strikes Back)
4x OTC-04 R2-D2 (The Empire Strikes Back)
2x OTC-05 Luke Skywalker (A New Hope)
3x OTC-06 Luke Skywalker (Return of the Jedi)
2x OTC-07 Han Solo (A New Hope)
2x OTC-08 Chewbacca (The Empire Strikes Back)
1x OTC-09 Princess Leia (A New Hope)
2x OTC-10 Darth Vader (Return of the Jedi)
2x OTC-11 Biker Scout (Return of the Jedi)
2x OTC-12 R2-D2 (A New Hope)
1x OTC-13 C-3PO (A New Hope)
1x OTC-14 Boba Fett (Return of the Jedi)
1x OTC-15 Obi-Wan Kenobi (A New Hope)
1x OTC-16 Stormtrooper (A New Hope)
2x OTC-17 Wicket (Return of the Jedi)
2x OTC-18 Princess Leia (The Empire Strikes Back)
2x OTC-19 Cloud Car Pilot (The Empire Strikes Back)
2x OTC-20 Lobot (The Empire Strikes Back)
2x OTC-21 TIE Fighter Pilot (A New Hope)
2x OTC-xx Greedo (A New Hope)
2x OTC-xx Luke Skywalker (The Empire Strikes Back) [BESPIN]
The emphasis so far is on the Dagobah wave and the core characters. I think that if the next wave contains more Bespin figures, we'd do pretty well at keeping enough "NEW" figures shipping and keeping the potential pegwarmers to a minimum.
In fact, I'm so bold as to predict the NEXT wave...
THIS IS ALL SPECULATION
OTC Wave 5 (2004 wave 11):
2x OTC-18 Princess Leia (The Empire Strikes Back)
2x OTC-19 Cloud Car Pilot (The Empire Strikes Back)
2x OTC-20 Lobot (The Empire Strikes Back)
2x OTC-16 Stormtrooper (A New Hope)
1x OTC-13 C-3PO (A New Hope)
1x OTC-xx Imperial Scanning Trooper (A New Hope)
1x OTC-10 Darth Vader (Return of the Jedi)
1x OTC-xx Han Solo (The Empire Strikes Back) [BESPIN]
Now, that'd be a nice assortment. It puts more Bespin figures out there, along with more Stormies and the Scanning Trooper. Plus it gets a few new OTC re-packs out there...
Then again, what do I know about packing cases?
Jeff
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Then again, what do I know about packing cases?
Jeff
Obviously more than Hasbro. ;)
Now if they only followed your suggestion, this would certainly help the peg-warming situation we all know is coming.
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Love that list!
But I was a little confused on which waves were which?
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Love that list!
But I was a little confused on which waves were which?
It is all of the first 4 waves smushed together... in other words, my compiled list doesn't state which figures are in which wave, which is why you are confused.
EE has a good list of the individual wave assortments...
Jeff
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Oh Okay!
I'll check that. Thanks for the list though! ;)
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I guess Greedo can finally face off against some of those HOF/OTC Han's :P
I really like the OTC cards; and I can't wait to see them one the pegs. I thought about those mock-ups as soon as I read that list
I've been kind of hoping to see a "Bespin Capture" Han, with all of the other Bespin figures on the way. Would anybody else want to see a 'pre-battle' Bespin Luke (fixed hand/new head)? variant Bespin Guard?
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I thought that about Luke yesterday B_R...it would be pretty easy to make a prebattle Luke, in fact I was thinking of trying a head swap just the other day with one of my extra Post battle Lukes.
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How much are these figs going to go for? ???
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How much are these figs going to go for? ???
I looked them up in the computer (DCPI # 087-06-1014) when I was at Target on Tuesday. They are listed in the Target computer right now for $5.99 each, and of course, are not in stock yet.
Only time will tell if they stay at $5.99 though... If TRU and Wal-Mart end up charging less, Target will follow.
Jeff
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New Stormtrooper Card Mock Up...damn these things I may actually be buying them all ::)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-04/otcstormock.jpg)
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This is a final card right?
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I know what you mean Scott, this is the first time I've actually considered buying figures I already have (and leaving them carded maybe). Those cards are just too sweet, I hope that Hasbro decides to stick with this design for awhile.
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This is a final card right?
No...just a mock up. Things could change in the next few weeks
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Tantalizing Stormie card, there Scott. I really hope the line sticks around like this. I've never considered displaying my carded collection until these cards. They're so much better.
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It's gonna hurt real bad when I open these. Those are nice cardbacks...
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No doubt...we should be seeing Carded Dagobah pics really soon here
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Rumor mill...
GH Swami just posted that:
General Veers
Vader (Hoth)
Gamorrean Guard
Bib Fortuna
Will be coming later this year :-*
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Holy hootin' sweetness!!!
I'd love a good General Veers. With a removable helmet, I'm sure. The others wouldn't be too shabby, either.
Except Vader. I don't really know what could be done with him, unless they just give us a good generic ESB Vader without any silly action features and good articulation. I'd like one with arm articulation like Madine.
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Wow, i'm actually going to look forward to Bib Fortuna...
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General Veers: Yay!
Hoth Vader: Hmm. Holographic hopefully.
Gamoreean Guard: I don't know. We'll see.
Bib Fortuna: Could use a resculpt.
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I was able to check out last month's Lee's and see the Stormtrooper, Yoda, Vader 3PO and Lando up close. All three look amazing except 3PO
He looks dirty and the articulation looks limited. Total and utter disappointment on this one, they could have knocked it out of the park and instead it was a dribbler back to the pitcher.