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Title: NFL 2003/04
Post by: Reconsgt on April 24, 2003, 09:45 AM
With the draft comming up shortly are you anticipating your team to grab the great pick or the big bust.

 I am hoping that the Pack picks up a couple needed position players but if the past drafts are any indication I will be left wondering what the hell were they thinking again. I like to watch the draft shows. How about the rest of you football fans?

 Also does any one draft pick ring out to you as the big losser? As a Pack fan I still remember passing on Barry Sanders to get Tony Manderich.  :'(
Title: Re: NFL draft
Post by: Scott on April 24, 2003, 10:39 AM
Saturday ranks right up there with me for all time time wasters...it seriously is one of my favorite days of the year.  I am a sick, sick man!

ANyway the Vikes have the #7 pick this year and I am actually hoping they trade down unless Suggs is still available.  They need D-Line help and I am not totally sold on Kennedy from Penn State or CB Trufant out of Wash St.

Me and my buddies have 2 Mock Draft Games every year, the NBA Lottery one which is called the Scott E. Roth Memorial Cup for Excellence in Mock NBA Drafting) and the NFL Draft which is called the Esera Tuaolo Memorial Cup for Excellence in Mock NFL Drafting.  We actually have two little trophies that go around to each house and it resides there until the next year.  

Anyway here are my picks for the first 15:

#1 Cincy Carson Palmer
#2 Detroit Charles Rogers
#3 Houston Andre Johnson
#4 Chicago Dewayne Robertson
#5 Dallas Terrance Newman
#6 Arizona Terrell Suggs
#7 Minnesota Jimmy Kennedy
#8 Jacksonville Byron Leftwich
#9 Carolina Marcus Trufant
#10 Baltimore Kyle Boller
#11 Seattle Jordan Gross
#12 Saint Louis Boss Bailey
#13 New York Jets Kevin Williams
#14 New England Jonathan Sullivan
#15 San Diego Chris Kelsay

This year has a ton of DT's available, in fact up to 7 or 8 could go in the first round.  Which is amazing...should be fun!
Title: Re: NFL draft
Post by: Mikey D on April 24, 2003, 01:23 PM
The Pats are looking to get an interior D lineman to plug the middle and move Seymour to DE (they're plan on playing a 3-4 this year).  Right now, the rumor is them giving up their two #1's to Chicago and draft fourth to get Robertson.  If that doesn't happen, I still feel they'll try to move up ahead of the Jets as I have a stinking suspicion that they'll try to pooch the Pats. (as the Pats did to them when they drafted Matt Light a few years back)

If they don't move up, hopefully Sullivan will be there at 14, who should work well with Seymour (both Georgia grads and Sullivan backed up Seymour while they were both there).  Look for the Pats to get a O lineman with the 19th pick.

I also heard rumors of Houston swapping (plus a few in subsquent rounds) with Cinncy to take Rogers at #1.  Both Houston and Detroit need a wide out to go with their young QB.  Cinncy would still be able to take Palmer at #3.  I think it would be advantageous for Cinncy to do this.  They move up higher in the second round, still get their #1 player and wouldn't  have to pay him #1 pick money.

Title: Re: NFL draft
Post by: Scott on April 24, 2003, 09:06 PM
See now that would make sense Mikey, at that is not Cincy's forte.  I guess they always would run the risk of someone then trading into #2 and taking Palmer away from them.

My hope is that someone will jump up into the top 6 and take Leftwich (Oakland?) before he goes at 8...that would mean Suggs or Newman would fall to Purple.  The right piece will for sure make them a NFC threat this year with their free agent signings on D and still potent O.  If Daunte can hold onto the ball, watch out NFL
Title: Re: NFL draft
Post by: Reconsgt on May 6, 2003, 04:40 PM
OK now that the draft has came and went. Most teams already held a mini camp. Are you happy with the picks your teams made?

 This year I can honestly say that I wasn't wondering what the Pack was doing with their picks. I feel they picked up some pretty good talent. Hell any LB has to be better than Hardy Nickerson was last year for us..
Title: Re: NFL draft
Post by: Scott on May 6, 2003, 04:44 PM
After cooling down a little, I am happy with what the Vikings got, it sucks they weren't able to close the deal to get more picks...

I hope they didn't make a Derrick Alexander/Warren Sapp mistake by taking Williams over Suggs.  Suggs seems small to me, the college numbers show he has the talenet though.  We needed someone in the middle

I am really excited about the drafting of Onterrio Smith in the 4th round, great pick, brings back a David Palmer/Amp Lee type third down back and gives them awesome Bronco type depth at RB.

Supposedly they got 3 of what they considered 1st rounders with the first three picks we shall see
Title: Re: NFL draft
Post by: dustrho on May 6, 2003, 05:13 PM
I'm OK with who the Bears chose, and I'm actually excited to see Rex Grossman play for the Bears.  I really think they're going to have a great year this year.  I'm more excited to see Kordell Stewart play for them.
Title: Re: NFL draft
Post by: Nicklab on May 7, 2003, 12:04 AM
I'm OK with who the Bears chose, and I'm actually excited to see Rex Grossman play for the Bears.  I really think they're going to have a great year this year.  I'm more excited to see Kordell Stewart play for them.

Yeah, but waht did you think of Kordell saying that he's not interested in teaching Grossman?  I thought that was kind of cold.  Obviously, Kordell has to learn the Bears offense as well, but he's certainly going to be a quicker study.  He doesn't have the time or willingness to teach a rookie?
Title: Re: NFL draft
Post by: dustrho on May 7, 2003, 12:35 AM
Yeah, but waht did you think of Kordell saying that he's not interested in teaching Grossman?  I thought that was kind of cold.  Obviously, Kordell has to learn the Bears offense as well, but he's certainly going to be a quicker study.  He doesn't have the time or willingness to teach a rookie?

I think Kordell said that because his contract is only for what, one or two years, and he's thinking he probably won't be around long enough to have an impact on Grossman.  Who really knows why Kordell said something as stupid as that.
Title: NFL Offseason '04
Post by: dustrho on June 4, 2003, 03:53 PM
BRIAN URLACHER SIGN'S NINE YEAR DEAL WITH DA BEARS!

LAKE FOREST, Ill. (AP) -- All-Pro linebacker Brian Urlacher has agreed to a new, nine-year deal that will keep him with the Chicago Bears through the 2011 season.

Terms of the deal were not immediately available.

Urlacher, the ninth overall pick in the 2000 draft, has 527 career tackles. He's led the Bears in stops in each of his first three seasons, averaging 175 a year.

With 214 tackles last season, he set a franchise record, shattering the previous mark of 190 set by Hall of Famer Dick Butkus in 1972. He won rookie of the year honors in 2000.

In addition to being Chicago's top defensive player, Urlacher has quickly become a fan favorite. He's earned Pro Bowl honors each season and was the top defensive vote-getter by fans last year. His jersey was the top seller in the NFL last season.
Title: Re: Brian Urlacher Signs 9-yr Deal!
Post by: Darth Broem on June 5, 2003, 02:05 PM
Yep, being a Bear's fan I am happy to hear that.  Kind of a no-brainer to do this but glad they did it.
Title: Re: Brian Urlacher Signs 9-yr Deal!
Post by: dustrho on June 5, 2003, 03:35 PM
Finally, another person has replied to this thread of mine, and best of all it's a Bears' fan!   ;D

DA BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Brian Urlacher Signs 9-yr Deal!
Post by: Darth Broem on June 5, 2003, 04:25 PM
Da Bearzzzz  :)
Title: Re: Brian Urlacher Signs 9-yr Deal!
Post by: Scott on June 6, 2003, 09:14 AM
IMO Chris and like I said my opinion, he is overrated and they are paying him way to much.  Sure he is a great LB but he is no LT and probably not even a Singletary...in all of the Bears-Vikes games I've seen him play I have never seen him dominate a game like Derrick Brooks will or Warren Sapp does.  
Title: Re: Brian Urlacher Signs 9-yr Deal!
Post by: dustrho on June 6, 2003, 10:15 AM
He's not a Lawrence Taylor.  He's not Mike Singletary.  But when you think about all the linebackers in the league today he's definitely one of the top 5 out there.  He's in on almost every single tackle.  He plays on every single down, unlike Randy Moss who plays when only HE wants to play.

You want to talk about someone getting overpaid and who's overrated Scott?  What about Daunte Culpepper?  He had the crappiest season of his career last year, but yet he got a contract extension for boo-koo bucks.

Out of all the players on the Bears' team, Brian Urlacher is the best, and there's no way the Bears organization was going to let him go.

I love sports... it's one of the best topics of debate!   ;D
Title: Re: Brian Urlacher Signs 9-yr Deal!
Post by: Scott on June 6, 2003, 10:19 AM
Oh yeah I totally agree on DC, see the problem there though is that what were the Vikes supposed to do.  Let him walk?  Who were they going to sign to make them better?  They were caught and the fact that he did have an awesome 2000 a decent 2001 and improved after being benched for a game last year put them in a pickle.  

The great thing about NFL contracts though is they usually are good for only 3-4 years and then they can cut the guy without serious reprocussions.

What I think is crazy is Terrell Owens demanding what he is, sure I love the guy but WR are a dime a dozen and should not be the highest paid player in the league. I think Moss is overpaid too but he is the star of the team (like Urlacher) and so they had to do it just like the Bears did
Title: Re: Brian Urlacher Signs 9-yr Deal!
Post by: dustrho on June 6, 2003, 10:31 AM
Scott, there were how many available quarterbacks that the Vikings could have looked at?  Of course that's not really the case now, but they could have picked a new quarterback from the bunch to try out at least.  Brian Griese isn't settling down in Miami, so he's completely available now.  If I were the Vikings I would maybe bring him into camp, just to see how good he really is.  Griese would make an awesome backup QB, but not a starting one.

What am I talking about... bring him into Chicago man!  We could definitely use a good backup QB, but Griese is probably looking for a home where he can be the starting QB.
Title: Re: Brian Urlacher Signs 9-yr Deal!
Post by: Scott on June 6, 2003, 10:38 AM
Culpepper has the physical ability to be right up there with McNabb and Warner as the top 2-3 QB's in the game.  Unfortunately his head isn't there.  Back to Urlacher I guess I see it now like I said above as a move that they had to make, he is one of the top 5, he is the best player on the team and the fans would crucify management if he walked...
Title: Re: Brian Urlacher Signs 9-yr Deal!
Post by: Mikey D on June 6, 2003, 12:59 PM
I agree that Urlacher is a great LB, but don't you think the absent of Roosevelt Colvin would hurt his production and vice versa?

Colvin signed with the Pats, which is excellent for us, because he's a top notch player, especially in the run stopping department, which is where the Pats sucked last year.  But from what I'm hearing, the reason they were both so good is that they played off each other's strengths and weaknesses.  
Title: NFL Offseason '04
Post by: dustrho on July 13, 2003, 11:05 PM
What NFL team do you root for?  I know what a lot of people's favorite teams are, but there are many new members here.

Here's mine...

(http://www.chicagobears.com/photos/bears3_640.jpg)
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Morgbug on July 13, 2003, 11:19 PM
I'll let Scott get fancy but I'll give you a hint.

Purple
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: E.Z. on July 13, 2003, 11:19 PM
Hey Chris, we don't have an NFL team, so I give you the class of the CFL, the Montreal Alouettes. Hope you don't mind.  ;D

(http://www.cflfan.com/logos/mon2.gif)
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: dustrho on July 13, 2003, 11:37 PM
Hey Chris, we don't have an NFL team, so I give you the class of the CFL, the Montreal Alouettes. Hope you don't mind.  ;D

Shawn, of course I don't mind.   8)
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on July 14, 2003, 12:16 AM
My #1 team is the future superbowl winners, the Carolina Panthers!  :)Mark my words, they WILL win it all sometime soon.  ;D
Then my next fav teams are: Raiders, Ravens, Bucs, Saints, Giants, Broncos, Texans.
Teams I have no love loss for are: Rams, 49ers, Deadskins, Jaguars, Cowboys, Falcons. >:(
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Nicklab on July 14, 2003, 01:08 AM
NEW YORK GIANTS!
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: JediMAC on July 14, 2003, 01:31 AM
Same ones as right in here:
Alright SPORTS fans, name your teams! (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=320)

NFL:
Raiders (lifelong fan, even before they ever moved down from Oakland long ago)   8)
Rams (my hometown team growin' up - still a BIG fan despite their move from SoCal)   :-\
Packers (just because my wife LOVES them - don't ask me why)   :-*
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: jadesfire on July 14, 2003, 08:25 AM
RAMS!!!

But being a Michigander I also root for the pathetic Detroit Lions.

Also, being a Yooper, I can't stand the stupid Packers!!
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: JediMAC on July 14, 2003, 08:28 AM
Also, being a Yooper, I can't stand the stupid Packers!!

Alright, I'll bite.  Color me stupid, but what's a "Yooper" Beth?   :P

Good vote on the Rams though!   8)
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Reconsgt on July 14, 2003, 08:44 AM
Matt , Yooper = from Upper Michigan, or Upper penninsula aka UP



 Well I live in Green Bay so there is no surprise I back the Pack
(http://ak-sports.espn.go.com/f/1917/8668/6H/espn.go.com/i/nfl/clubhouse/gnb.gif)
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Brian on July 14, 2003, 09:39 AM
I haven't really had a favorite NFL team for awhile now, and have been trying to pick a team to follow.  When I was  younger, I was all about the Raiders (in the Bo Jackson/Marcus Allen/Willie Gault time)...but haven't followed them as closely anymore.  I need to find a new team to follow :).
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Scott on July 14, 2003, 10:29 AM
(http://www.nflhelmetstore.com/vikings.gif)

Cut me open and a I bleed Purple and Gold baby, I was really excited about this year until Bennett went down for half of it (possibly all).  I think Onterrio Smith is going to be a stud though and thought he was the steal of the draft in the 4th round.  I think they have a real shot at taking the North this year with Favre's age, the Bears and Lions sucktitude and the Vikes improvements on D and the O-LIne

My AFC team is the Broncos

I predict though that an all Florida Super Bowl is going to happen with the Bucs playing the Dolphins
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: dustrho on July 14, 2003, 10:36 AM
I predict though that an all Florida Super Bowl is going to happen with the Bucs playing the Dolphins

That's a very strong possibility.  The Dolphins have totally revamped their entire team.  And I can't wait to see Junior Seau play along side with Zach Thomas.
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Lemon-Viper on July 14, 2003, 11:12 AM
Detroit Lion fan since I was knee high to a Leprichan(they don't really exist).  I've seen the good times, I've suffered the bad times, but I'm allways excited come game time!

Lions are gonna win 7 this year, 9 next year, and make the playoffs in 3.  

Almost forgot.......VIKINGS SUCK!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: dustrho on July 14, 2003, 11:15 AM
Almost forgot.......VIKINGS SUCK!!!!!!!!

You're right about that, but the Packers also suck too.   :P
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Scott on July 14, 2003, 11:38 AM
Another Reason I love this place we have

Vikings
Morgbug
OCB

Lions
Lemon Viper
jadesfire
Sith Lord Cosmo

Packers
Reconsgt
JediMAC ::)
Patty

Bears
dustrho

THe best division in football (at least it used to be :()  Should be an interesting year!

Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Morgbug on July 14, 2003, 12:21 PM
Matt doesn't count, that's Patty's vote.  Just staying out of trouble with the missus is not the same as rooting for a team :-*

Jim's gotta be a Vikings fan, doesn't he?  I know his baseball priorities are all screwed up, but not football too?
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Scott on July 14, 2003, 12:22 PM
Jim likes the Cowboys for some reason ::) ::) ??? ???
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Sith Bounty Hunter on July 14, 2003, 12:42 PM
Right by the Golden Gate Bridge theres a team called the San Francisco 49ers and thats my team!
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Darth Broem on July 14, 2003, 02:29 PM
Da Bears is where my heart is.  Although I enjoy watching just about any team.  Although I do like the Raiders.  I think that's just because of the uniforms and nutty looking fans.  
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: dustrho on July 14, 2003, 02:37 PM
Da Bears is where my heart is.  

Hey Darth Broem, what's your real name?  You and I are the only Bears fans I think here.  I really hope the Bears have a better season than last year.  If they could only find a stud at running back, I think they would have a great season.  A great running back would totally improve Kordell's game too.
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Mikey D on July 14, 2003, 03:08 PM
AFC:
(http://www.nflfanstore.com/patriots/patriotsfl.jpg)

2001 Super Bowl Champions

NFC:
(http://www.nflfanstore.com/eagles/eaglesfl.gif)

2003 Super Bowl Champions
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: DSJ™ on July 14, 2003, 03:11 PM
NFL?  What the...  Brent , show your support for the CFL.  ;D

Heres mine!  :P

(http://shopx.canoe.ca/shops/1015/custom/Product/ed_mini.jpg)
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: JediMAC on July 14, 2003, 03:37 PM
NFC:
(http://www.nflfanstore.com/eagles/eaglesfl.gif)

2003 Super Bowl Champions

Uh...  Wasn't the 2003 Super Bowl Champion the Tampa Bay Bucaneers Mikey?  I could've sworn it was, otherwise I wasted one helluva lot of hot air cursing, screaming and shouting at them, while my Raiders were getting their butts handed to them!  I had no idea that was actually the Eagles who administered that a$$ whipping.   :P  Well done Donovan!  Guess that Chunky soup ain't cursed after all...   ;)

So I guess Jim just basically roots for whoever's coined "America's team" in each respective sport, huh?  Cowboy's, Braves...  That's one confused Minnesotan up there!   ::)

Cut me open and a I bleed Purple and Gold baby...

See now, I KNEW you were a Laker fan Scott!  But what's with coming out only now that we landed Payton and Malone?!  You fair weathered band wagoner!   :-*
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Scott on July 14, 2003, 03:47 PM
Matt
I think the Lakers are like the Packers and that they have more of a Mustard Yellow instead of the more regal Gold :-*

Skol Vikings
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Morgbug on July 14, 2003, 03:51 PM
Yep, I'm right there with ya Scott.

Lakers = Yellow.

Laker fan = bulky blocky.
Viking fan - damn good looking.
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: chuckles on July 14, 2003, 06:39 PM
Jim likes the Cowboys for some reason ::) ::) ??? ???

Yes, my reason being, growing up in a state with no pro teams to root for (Iowa) I had to look elsewhere for a team to follow. So I chose Dallas. Don't recall why I did but I've been a fan of there's ever since the early 80's. Loved the teams of old with Dorsett, Danny and Randy White, Ed "Too Tall" Jones, and of course, Coach Laundry. Ah, those were the days.


So I guess Jim just basically roots for whoever's coined "America's team" in each respective sport, huh?  Cowboy's, Braves...  That's one confused Minnesotan up there!   ::)


Again, growing up with no pro teams around, the Braves choice came from watching them back on TBS in the 80's where if you wanted to watch pro baseball, your choices were the Braves or the Cubs. I followed the Braves as that is what my grandparents liked watching and so I grew up watching them alot whenever I was over at their place and I was a huge Dale Murphy fan back in the early-mid 80's. Have loved them ever since. Very easy to stay a die hard fan when they win 11 straight division titles, going on 12.  8)  But I was due, they sucked in late 80's.  ;D
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: dustrho on July 14, 2003, 06:46 PM
Uh...  Wasn't the 2003 Super Bowl Champion the Tampa Bay Bucaneers Mikey?  I could've sworn it was...

You're absolutely right Matt!  Maybe he thinks the Eagles will be the Super Bowl Champions for next season (2004).   :-\
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: dustrho on July 14, 2003, 06:49 PM
NFL?  What the...  Brent , show your support for the CFL.  ;D

Heres mine!  :P

(http://shopx.canoe.ca/shops/1015/custom/Product/ed_mini.jpg)

Dale, what team is that?  I know you said it's the CFL, but since it's really not a true football team, most of us won't be aware of who that helmet belongs to.   :-*   ;)
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Morgbug on July 14, 2003, 11:00 PM
That would be the Edmonchuk Eskimos.  How droll (and politically incorrect).  

Dale,
ya gotta know who I'd be rooting for in the CFL.  Say, haven't you lost to us already this year ;)

Jim,
I am so very dissappointed in you. :-X ;)
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Mikey D on July 15, 2003, 07:11 AM
Matt and Chris, I know the Bucs were 2002 champs. I was stating that the Eagles would win this year (2003)

Even though the Super Bowl is in January (or February in an extreme case  :( ), the winner of the SB are champs for the year in which the season started.  In the Bucs case, 2002.  In the Eagles case, 2003  ;)  If I'm wrong, then blame Sports Illustrated.  I have the Patriots special edition SI from after they won the SB and it says 2001 Super Bowl Champions., even though they won it all in February 2002.
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: DSJ™ on July 15, 2003, 09:27 AM
That would be the Edmonchuk Eskimos.  How droll (and politically incorrect).  

Dale,
ya gotta know who I'd be rooting for in the CFL.  Say, haven't you lost to us already this year ;)

Ah yes, the Winterpeg Blue Bombs!  ;D

14-12 for you guys. Yep, thats a big win!   :P
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Rob on July 15, 2003, 01:52 PM
I'm from tampa and am a Bucs fan.  

I know how tough it is to repeat in this day and age, but the bucs can do it and I think WILL do it IF they can get the running back situation resolved.  

Because:

Improved offense
Defense that lost 2 starters - and replacements were UPGRADES.

Jon Gruden - he brings consistency to the table as far as coaching goes - he's won three straight division championships with two different teams.
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: JediMAC on July 15, 2003, 02:47 PM
Matt and Chris, I know the Bucs were 2002 champs. I was stating that the Eagles would win this year (2003)

Even though the Super Bowl is in January (or February in an extreme case  :( ), the winner of the SB are champs for the year in which the season started.  In the Bucs case, 2002.  In the Eagles case, 2003  ;)  If I'm wrong, then blame Sports Illustrated.  I have the Patriots special edition SI from after they won the SB and it says 2001 Super Bowl Champions., even though they won it all in February 2002.

OK, gotchya Mike.  I figured as much, but just wanted to make sure you had the correct calendar up on your wall, is all...

Patriots   >:(

- Still disgruntled Raiders fan...   ;)
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: SexyLaura on July 16, 2003, 12:15 AM
GREENBAY PACKERS BABY!!!
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: Scott on July 16, 2003, 09:11 AM
GREENBAY PACKERS BABY!!!
Perma Ban Baby! :-*
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: dustrho on July 16, 2003, 11:34 AM
GREENBAY PACKERS BABY!!!
Perma Ban Baby! :-*

I second that!   ;)
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: roguestormtrooper on August 2, 2003, 10:27 PM
New Orleans Aint's ...  I mean Saints... :P
Title: Re: Who's Your NFL Team?
Post by: MetalJedi on August 3, 2003, 03:35 AM
Well I know I'll get dumped on for this but...

Pittsburgh Steelers.
Title: NFL 2003!
Post by: Scott on August 3, 2003, 10:28 AM
Well with the 2003 season started (The Bucs beat the Jets in Japan on Saturday) lets make this the 2003  :-* NFL thread

I think the Steelers will be decent this year

Pre-Season predictions...

NFC

North: Vikings (Pipe dream I know, the Pack probably will win it but I can't list them)
West: Rams
East: Redskins
South: Tampa
Wildcards: 49ers, Saints

AFC

North: Steelers
West: Broncos
East: Dolphins
South: Colts
Wildcards: Raiders, Patriots

Superbowl  Miami over Tampa Bay :-*


Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on August 4, 2003, 12:48 PM
The Packers and Chiefs play tonight on ABC... who's watching it tonight?  I know I will, and I'm gonna be rooting for the Chiefs of course.

[size=12]DA BEARS![/size]
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on August 4, 2003, 12:49 PM
I wonder what the over/under on Beth's interception totals for tonight is going to be.  Sure he only may play 2 series but I'm going to go with 2 :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on August 4, 2003, 12:54 PM
I wonder what the over/under on Beth's interception totals for tonight is going to be.  Sure he only may play 2 series but I'm going to go with 2 :-*

Who cares, the only reason I'll watch the game is for the lovely Lisa Guerraro  :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on August 4, 2003, 12:58 PM
Damn that's right, no more of my #1 Cutie, I'll tune in to see Beth break her leg and to check out the new boombalotti on the sidelines (curse you ABC for not picking Brenda Warner!)

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Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on August 4, 2003, 12:59 PM
Thanks for the upcoming nightmares Scott.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on August 4, 2003, 01:01 PM
Thanks for the upcoming nightmares Scott.  

Hey man I aim to please :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on August 4, 2003, 01:29 PM
Thanks for the upcoming nightmares Scott.  

Thanks Scott!  Now I must go and throw up.  (http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/otn/other/pukeface.gif)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on August 4, 2003, 01:56 PM
Who cares, the only reason I'll watch the game is for the lovely Lisa Guerrero  :-*

Ya' got that right, Mikey!   8)

Patty's been dancing around the house for the last couple days in anticipation of tonight's game, due in part to the return of Monday Night Football (and football in general), and of course due in part to the fact that her favorite team - the Green Bay Packers - is taking part in this evening's festivities.  She's got her beer and junk food all ready to go!  She'll probably be bouncing off the walls and half drunk by the time I get home...   :P
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on August 4, 2003, 03:08 PM
She'll probably be bouncing off the walls and half drunk by the time I get home...   :P

Really? Excellent for you, I must say  ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on August 11, 2003, 12:37 PM
Sounds like the Slack lost Gilbert Brown for the year, McDonalds in the Green Bay area lay off half of their staff as a result :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on August 11, 2003, 12:55 PM
Sounds like the Slack lost Gilbert Brown for the year, McDonalds in the Green Bay area lay off half of their staff as a result :-*

Well Dan "Big Cat" Wilkinson is coming to town to try out for the team, so they might have to hire them back.

Another topic of discussion:

Anyone else hate Jeremy Shockey as much I as I do?
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on August 19, 2003, 11:11 AM
Sucks that Vick went down, the pre-season needs to be cut to two or three games.  Sure this could have happened any time but it still means stars get hurt in meaningless games for them
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on August 19, 2003, 12:36 PM
It's the curse of Madden.  Ever since the first Madden was released on PS2, the person on the cover either was injured or had a subpar season.

Eddie George 01 - injured
Dante Culpepper 02 - bad year (because of injury?)
Marshall Faulk 03 - injured
Mike Vick 04 - injured

I wouldn't want to be the person on Madden 2005.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on August 19, 2003, 12:44 PM
I thought the same thing on Sunday when I heard about the injury, Faulk didn't have a horrible year last year for him yes but for a RB no
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on August 19, 2003, 02:38 PM
Yeah, but he did get injured (missed 2 games) and didn't rush for a 1000+ yards either, for the first time in his career, I believe.  They actually did a segment on this on Sportscenter last night.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: roguestormtrooper on August 19, 2003, 02:57 PM
Michael Vick is a great quarterback...  no doubt about it.  (This coming from a Saints fan and Falcon hater)  I have been saying it since Vick first came in the league...  He's flirting with Disaster.  Why the he** is he trying to be superman in a preseason game?  Just go down and play the next play.  In my opinion he dosen't have that much to prove...  especialy in a preseason game.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: DarthWormie on August 19, 2003, 04:53 PM
Patriots season ticket holder here. Just hoping they make it back to the playoffs :)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on August 19, 2003, 10:53 PM
Patriots obtain DT Washington from Bears for draft choice

August 19, 2003

FOXBORO, Mass. (AP) -- The Chicago Bears traded veteran nose tackle Ted Washington to the New England Patriots on Tuesday for a fourth-round pick in the 2004 NFL draft.

Washington, 35, is a four-time Pro Bowl selection. He has 852 career tackles and 29 sacks in 12 seasons with San Francisco, Denver, Buffalo and Chicago.

The Bears get the Washington Redskins' fourth-round draft choice in 2004. The Patriots had obtained the Redskins' selection for two picks in the 2003 draft.

Washington, a 6-foot-4, 375-pound lineman, was drafted by San Francisco in the first round in 1991 out of Louisville. He had three straight 100-plus tackle seasons for the Bills from 1996-98.

my thoughts... TOTAL CRAP!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: DarthWormie on August 20, 2003, 10:24 AM
Patriots obtain DT Washington from Bears for draft choice

my thoughts... TOTAL CRAP!!!

From what side of the coin? Bears have depth at the position and wanted to unload his $1.3M salary for this season.

The Pats needed a nose tackle desperately and it only took a 4th rounder to do so.

Not a deal that will put either club over the top, but I wouldn't call it crap either.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on August 20, 2003, 11:22 AM
I know one thing, Washington's big load is sure going to shore up alot of blockers, thus allowing Colvin to run rampant all over opposing offenses.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on August 25, 2003, 01:58 PM
Boy pre-season is knocking off QBs left and right.  First Vick, then Griese and now Chad Pennington out's for likely the season with a fractured wrist.  Hopefully, Belichick plays it smart Wednesday and only plays the first team O and D one series each and then lets the back ups play the rest of the game.  No need for anyone to get injured now.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on August 25, 2003, 02:03 PM
Yeah sucks for those people who have their fantasy football drafts as well.  Pennington was going to have a good year too.  Good thing I drafted Culpepper and Warner!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Nicklab on August 25, 2003, 10:45 PM
I can't believe the way injuries are already affecting this season, and there's still a week of preseason left.  Whoa!

I just gotta keep my fingers crossed that the G-Men can stay healthy, and take it to each and every team we face.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on September 1, 2003, 12:00 PM
Detroit Lions acquire Olandis Gary from the Buffalo Bills (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6606908)

All I can is that is an awesome move for the Lions, who were DESPERATELY in need of a running back.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Nicklab on September 1, 2003, 01:03 PM
Detroit may finally be coming around.  With this move, plus Joey Harrington and Charles Rogers, I think the Lions might finally turn some people's heads.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 4, 2003, 03:41 PM
2 big WTF's from me...

Why did the Pats release Lawyer Milloy and why did the Vikings deem him too expensive?

Get ready baby...the season starts in 5 hours!

ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: DarthWormie on September 4, 2003, 05:18 PM
It seems the Pats got rid of Milloy for a couple of reasons. The first & most important is money. He was due to make around $4.4M this season with a cap hit even higher. Both the cap hit & salary would have jumped about $1M next season. The other reason, which ties to salary is his performance last year. He had 0 Sacks, 0 Ints, 0 Forced Fumbles, 0 Recovered Fumbles and recorded a career low tackles last year. The Pats wanted to keep him, but not at $4.4M. They wanted him to restructure down to $3M and he refused to come down at all.

It won't take long for Belicheck to see if he made the right decision though. It sure will be weird seeing him in Buffalo Blue come Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on September 5, 2003, 09:55 AM
Finally the season is under way.   No more preseason crap. I can sit back with a cold one and relax on sundays once again.


Scott predictions on Sundays big game ;)  

 
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 5, 2003, 10:25 AM
Well seeing as how the Pack have won 8 out of 9 at Lambeau I don't like our chances.  However, the Vikes have improved, the Pack have gottena  little worse and we almost beat you there last year.  After three years of close calls I say this may finally be the Vikes year to win one again (first time since '98) but I'm not going to hold my breath either

As long as #4 is at the helm as much as I hate him the Pack have a shot...

Vikings 27 Packers 21  :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on September 5, 2003, 10:43 AM
 Well I also am not holding my breath. I think that it will be close.   I am betting on something like 24-21 Pack winning in the last 1:30 of the game.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 5, 2003, 04:06 PM
I agree it will come down to the wire like most Lambeau games have done the last 4 years, Beth has beaten us everytime

What I hope for is a repeat of 98, one of the funnest games I have ever watched...

Moss 5 catches 194 Yards, 2 TD's and one 75 yarder called back on a horrible holding call against Todd Stuessie.  Broke the Packers home unbeaten streak, Moss's coming out party, stunned the Lambeau faithful and put the Vikes at the head of the Central for 3 really good years.  Too bad they pissed it all away thanks to ole Fatty at the helm
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on September 5, 2003, 09:30 PM
Vikes will win.  I chose Washington last night so I'm currently winning the pool I'm in.  And I'm enjoying every last second because by Monday night, I'll probably be last :-\

Good news or bad news?  I picked the Vikes to win.  Sentimental fool.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Nicklab on September 7, 2003, 04:46 PM
WOOHOO!  MY G-Men start the season with a win over the Rams!  Nice!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on September 7, 2003, 04:54 PM
Green Bay Packers lose...  ;D
Detroit Lions win...  :-X   :o
St. Louis Rams lose...  ;D
Carolina Panthers win...  :)
Buffalo Bills win...  ;D
Pittsburgh Steelers win...  :)
Indianapolis colts win... :)
Kansas City Chiefs win... :D
Cincinnati Bengals lose... :(
Washington Redskins win... :D
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Rob on September 7, 2003, 05:25 PM
So far I'm 8-2 with my picks today only missing the Texans game (hey who woudn't) and the Charger's game (not sure why I picked them...).

Did anyone catch the Rams game???

Looks like Warner and Martz have picked up right where they left off.

Can't wait for MNF - go Bucs!.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Nicklab on September 7, 2003, 05:47 PM
You mean the Giants game, don't you?  Kurt Warner had excellent field vision...he was getting a great close-up look at it as the Giants kept on taking him down!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Nicklab on September 7, 2003, 06:01 PM
I don't like gloating when I see stuff like this:  http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1611035 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1611035)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on September 7, 2003, 08:29 PM
Bears got their butts handed to them.  What a joke!   >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 7, 2003, 09:40 PM
Cause they suck as much as the Slackers...

Skol Vikings!

The biggest joke is the idiots down there didn't figure out why an XFLer took over for Stewart in Pittsburgh...time to sign up He Hate Me

4 Picks for Beth...close one but they dominated pretty much the whole time

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Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on September 8, 2003, 07:06 AM
The Pats looked very craptacular.  Here's a hint for next week: Show up to play ::)

I'm happy the Jets, Fins, Raiders, Cowboys and Rams (even though it was to the Giants, a very hated team.  I don't think they're as good as every one thinks.  They'll choke later in the season) lost.

Should be a great game tonight: Bucs vs. Eagles, rematch of last year's NFC Championship.  Look for the Eagles to take revenge and win - although I think its going to be a close game.

Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on September 8, 2003, 05:34 PM
Ugly start to the season indeed!  My Raiders and Rams both looked old and sloppy, as did the wife's Packers.   :-\  Hopefully yesterday wasn't a sign of things to come, or it's going to be a very long season...

At least I get to watch Chucky in action tonight!   8)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Rob on September 8, 2003, 07:55 PM
Go Bucs tonight!

If they win I'll be 14-2 for my picks this week!

But that's not why I want them to win, I want them to win because I'm from Tampa and am longtime Bucs fan.

Go Bucs!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Jango Fettish on September 9, 2003, 12:44 AM

...time to sign up He Hate Me

Actually, Rod Smart plays here in Carolina now. I think he may even be starting.

Anywho, did anyone catch the Bucs obliteration of the Eagles tonight? Vicius looked more like Jerry Rice than himself tonight.

Bee-eautiful way to start the season.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2003, 01:09 AM
Agreed.  The defense played like madmen, the offense got it done against a tough Philly D.

The Bucs now own the Eagles after 2+ years of it being the other way around.

We shut down the Vet and now we opened up the Linc with a BANG.

Go Bucs!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 14, 2003, 11:52 PM
I noticed no Bucs fans bumping this thread...curious :-*

Vikes killed the Bears tonight to move to 2-0...I smell Playoffs already!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Darth Broem on September 15, 2003, 05:07 PM
Bears got their butts handed to them.  What a joke!   >:(

Well they played a bit better this week.  That's a typical lower scoring might have a chance to win in the end game Bear's we have seen the past 2 seasons.  Honestly the thing that really bugs me about this season and last year is that Shoop still insists on calling plays where it's 3rd down and 10 and throws a pass for 7 yarrds or a running play.  See Shoop the team needs to get PAST the 1st down marker to continue the drive.  UGGGH!!!!  

Oh well I am sure the Bears will regroup at home in their new stadium on Monday night next week against the Pack.  Hahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!  Oh man that's gonna blow.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 15, 2003, 05:16 PM
Yeah I'll be rooting for the Bears next week as well, if  the Vikes beat the Lions and the Bears beat da Slack, they'll be 3-0 and eveyone else will be 1-2!!!  

Stewart looked awful in the first half, better in the second.  The Vikes went away from the run for some unknown reason because they pretty much dominated the line on both sides of the ball all game.

I also will say again while Urlacher is fast...there is still a lot of hype behind his play, I've never seen him take over games like great LB's like Lewis and LT have in the past.  He is for sure in the top 5 in the league but not the be all end all LB that TV makes him out to be
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on September 15, 2003, 07:17 PM
The Bears could be a good team if they got Shoop out of the club.  I absolutely hate that guy!   >:(  How many years is it going to take to get rid of him?
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on September 16, 2003, 07:18 AM

I also will say again while Urlacher is fast...there is still a lot of hype behind his play, I've never seen him take over games like great LB's like Lewis and LT have in the past.  He is for sure in the top 5 in the league but not the be all end all LB that TV makes him out to be

He also had support the last few years with Rosevelt Colvin and Ted Washington.  Big Ted would take up two blockers and Colvin would get doubled teamed alot, freeing up Urlacher to roam and make the big plays.  Now that they're gone, he's having to shrug off alot of OL and then make the play.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Darth Broem on September 16, 2003, 12:10 PM
Mmmmm, I don't know about that.  I have seen Urlacher play live a few times.  I doubt there is much better in the NFL if at all.  That's debateable.  This dude is insanely good in my opinion.  As long as he's on this team he'll never receive that much respect though.  Let's throw him on the Tampa Bay Bucs defense and see how good he can be.  I am not really arguing this I just think it's because he's on a poor team.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 16, 2003, 12:58 PM
And maybe that is based on the 7 games I have seen the Bears and Vikes play since he came there, I have never been impressed and like Jeremy Shockey I think he is way, way overhyped...if I was an NFL GM, I'd want

Derrick Brooks
Ray Lewis
LaVar Arrington
Keith Brooking

Over Urlacher for sure, he just gets the hype because he is the Bears only real player and carries on the Singletary MLB tradition the Bears have had.  He is nothing special that isn't already all over the NFL...Even guys like Beikert, Trotter, Wayne, Farrior, Seau etc etc have just as good of stats (if not better) than Urlacher does
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: FX-7 on September 17, 2003, 03:17 PM
Go Broncos! 2-0 baby and huge game against the Raiders next week!  Are you ready for some Football?
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on September 19, 2003, 03:48 PM
Damn, do the Bears suck.  If Jauron and that dumb S-O-B Schoop don't get fired soon, I might just give up on the Bears for the entire season.  They're the biggest joke of the NFL.  Now we get to see Chandler at the helm... that's just stupid.


Bears: Stewart's job in jeopardy
 
by Fanball Staff - Fanball.com
Friday, September 19, 2003

The Chicago Sun-Times is reporting Bears' quarterback Kordell Stewart is in jeopardy of losing his starting job. The paper cited an unidentified source as saying that Stewart will start in the opener of the new stadium on September 29 against the Packers (they are on bye this week), but could lose his job if they don't win or he doesn't show significant improvement. And if he loses the starting job, it would be Chris Chandler, not quarterback of the future Rex Grossman that takes over. The Bears' coaching staff needs to win to hold their jobs, and would have a better chance of doing so with a veteran quarterback than with a rookie who doesn't even take snaps in practice.

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse for the Bad News Bears. Can you imagine Crystal Chandelier playing behind that line? We'd be watching Grossman by halftime.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 19, 2003, 03:56 PM
What a bunch of bafoons...who is the Bears GM?  That is the guy who needs to be fired.  Signing Stewart was the worst move of the NFL Offseason so far
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on September 19, 2003, 04:40 PM
Jerry Angelo and Ted Phillips run the organization now.  They're both a bunch of idiots.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 21, 2003, 07:15 PM
Purple Reign Baby!  3-0 and the Packers Lose...oh baby :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on September 21, 2003, 11:24 PM
Purple Reign Baby!  3-0 and the Packers Lose...oh baby

Congratulations to the Vikings.  I will be happy to give them their props, because they have totally earned it.  They're looking like a major force in the NFC North.  About time someone is doing better than the damn Packers.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Nicklab on September 21, 2003, 11:26 PM
Well, today's NFC East game was nearly a heart stopper!  The Giants put up 21 points in the first half, only to have Washington rally to tie the game.  Thank the maker they pulled this one out in OT!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on September 22, 2003, 10:56 AM
Pats got a win, but man is the injury bug killing them, especially on D.  First Ted Johnson (out 6-8 weeks) and then Roosevelt Colvin, out for the year.  After yesterday, you can add Ted Washington, Mike Vrabel and Ty Law to the list of defensive starters who are hurt and David Patten with the offense is banged up as well.  Add that to the fact that Tom Brady isn't 100% and they have enough to fill a whole ward at the local hospital.  Its true what they say, when it rains, it pours  :(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Jango Fettish on September 23, 2003, 10:12 AM
Purple Reign Baby!  3-0 and the Packers Lose...oh baby

Congratulations to the Vikings.  I will be happy to give them their props, because they have totally earned it.  They're looking like a major force in the NFC North.  About time someone is doing better than the damn Packers.

It's easy to dominate when you're playing in a weak division. The Bears? The Lions? On top of that, the Vikings have a very easy schedule. Cardinals, Chargers, Packers, Lions, Bears, Raiders, Falcons. Does it get any easier?  :-*


Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: DarthWormie on September 23, 2003, 11:27 AM
Pats got a win, but man is the injury bug killing them, especially on D.  First Ted Johnson (out 6-8 weeks) and then Roosevelt Colvin, out for the year.  After yesterday, you can add Ted Washington, Mike Vrabel and Ty Law to the list of defensive starters who are hurt and David Patten with the offense is banged up as well.  Add that to the fact that Tom Brady isn't 100% and they have enough to fill a whole ward at the local hospital.  Its true what they say, when it rains, it pours  :(

Don't forget Mike Compton. He's gone for the rest of the year with a broken foot as well. It will be interesting to see how the Defense plays this Sunday against Washington.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 23, 2003, 12:49 PM
Purple Reign Baby!  3-0 and the Packers Lose...oh baby

Congratulations to the Vikings.  I will be happy to give them their props, because they have totally earned it.  They're looking like a major force in the NFC North.  About time someone is doing better than the damn Packers.

It's easy to dominate when you're playing in a weak division. The Bears? The Lions? On top of that, the Vikings have a very easy schedule. Cardinals, Chargers, Packers, Lions, Bears, Raiders, Falcons. Does it get any easier?  :-*



Oh yeah...coming from the guy who's team lost to the Panthers...at least they are beating the teams they are supposed to be beating.  Culpepper's injury doesn't sound to good though...hopefully he misses minimal time.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on September 23, 2003, 12:54 PM
It's easy to dominate when you're playing in a weak division. The Bears? The Lions? On top of that, the Vikings have a very easy schedule. Cardinals, Chargers, Packers, Lions, Bears, Raiders, Falcons. Does it get any easier?  :-*

You make a very good point there Cory.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on September 23, 2003, 01:15 PM
I wouldn't exactly call the Raiders, Falcons and Packers easy.  Granted they're not doing that great so far this year, but they were all playoff teams last year.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 23, 2003, 01:21 PM
good point Mikey :-*

And before you counter Cory with well the Panthers are good this year, why can't the Vikings be much improved as well?  They added a ton of vets to the D and their O-Line is probably the best in the NFL with a nod toward KC as well.  Granted their D is no Tampa but it is enough to have them 3-0 with two road wins in the division.  I'll take 3-0 over 2-1 Sour Grapes any day
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on September 24, 2003, 02:57 PM
Boy, if things don't turn around pretty quickly for any of my teams, it looks like I'll be writing off this NFL season as a total loss.  Raiders, Rams and Packers all faltering at an underachieving and pathetic 1-2 record each.   :-\

Couple bright spots are the solid play from the Colts and Bills, both of whom I root for a little bit on the side as well.

And of course it's a beautiful thing to see the 49'ers floundering at a sorry 1-2 as well!!!   ;D  (sorry Josh  ;))

Hopefully things make a turn for the better soon, or I may be a very infrequent visitor to this thread throughout the remainder of the season!   :P

I'm sure Scott's one happy fool right about now though...   :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Jango Fettish on September 24, 2003, 07:10 PM
I wouldn't exactly call the Raiders, Falcons and Packers easy.  Granted they're not doing that great so far this year, but they were all playoff teams last year.

That's last year, and without Michelle Vick, the Falcons are pushovers.

Can't do like so many other teams and rest on your laurels, then end up putting all the weight on your quarterbacks shoulders, instead of your grossly overpaid MVP's and loud mouthed wide recievers.

It's fantastic that the Vikings are actually working to build their offense up and escape the Denny Green era, but defense wins games, and I think they'll be tested fairly soon.

As for my Bucs, I have to say that our offense has grown leaps and bounds since last year, making them an even bigger threat. Vicius has a torn ACL, so we signed a certain player that will be "Snoop-ing" around, sure to be equally as "Mennis-ing".  8)

The Panthers game? Teams lose, you know? That day, Tampa Bay couldn't get it together, and Carolina had 1 guy who won the game for them. **** happens.

The seasons early, and hopefully, like last year this 2-1 start will lead down the same road as last year.



Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 29, 2003, 10:08 AM
The Vikes move to 4-0 after dominating the 49ers, it wasn't even close

I'll also say this Defense is probably their best since the '98 and might even be as good as the one they had in the late 80's and early 90's with Doleman, Henry Thomas, Al Noga and Keith Millard.

They should handle the Falcons and be 5-0 going into the bye.  Then it gets tough with the AFC West, Packers, Giants, Rams and Seahawks.  So while I am glad they are 4-0 I think 10-6, 11-5 is more realistic
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jadesfire on September 29, 2003, 10:26 AM
Raiders, Rams and Packers all faltering at an underachieving and pathetic 1-2 record each.   :-\


Ok, the Rams are now even at 2-2.  It's going to be a long season......(don't even ask about the Lions) :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on September 29, 2003, 12:40 PM
The Bears play the Packers tonight and should be a good game.  The Packers are coming off a loss to the Cardinals (what a joke), and the Bears play in their newly revamped stadium.  Can't wait to watch this game, even though the Bears are going to probably get killed.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 29, 2003, 12:42 PM
I'll be rooting for the Bears tonight, seeing Beth Farve get beat on national TV is always a treat plus then the Vikes will be 3 games up on everyone!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jadesfire on September 29, 2003, 01:49 PM
seeing Beth Farve

I think Scott is still delirious about the Vikings record... :-* ;)
I'll be pulling for the Bears just to tick off the office Packer fans.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on September 29, 2003, 01:52 PM
Not delrious...just cognisant of the fact that Beth has been playing like a little girl for a while now, especially when he cries after games :-*

There are many office packer fans here as well and I always love to see them lose!  Its been a long 2 years!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on September 29, 2003, 03:03 PM
Hey now leave my Beth Favre alone :)     I will be the first to admit I am a diehard Packer fan but I will have to agree with Scott,  Brett has been playing like crap, but I won't count him out just yet ;) Tonight I think it will be all Packers though,
  Scott, I will admit the Vikes look pretty damn good so far.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on October 9, 2003, 02:55 PM
Bye week coming up for the Vikes but nonetheless some awesome games in Week 6, Chiefs-Pack and Colts-Panthers should both be awesome...also Bucs-Skins, Giants-Pats and Broncos-Steelers have a lot of meaning for the winner and loser, even this early in the season

Last week was awesome...
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on October 22, 2003, 06:25 PM
Please tell me that Junior Seau didn't really just say what my wife said she heard on the radio he said...

I'll give you a hint:  It involved fried chicken and watermelon...   :o   :-\

On an even more unpleasant note, my Raiders are done for.  Tim Brown got stuck by KC on the 1 yard line for the game tying touchdown as time expired.  Put a fork in us...   :'(  From Super Bowl to Super Bore.  Just too damned old, I guess.  How much do you think Jerry Rice is regretting his decision to come back for just one more season now?!

On a somewhat brighter note, the Rams have gotten back into the swing of things the last few weeks, and are looking pretty solid.  Though I'm a little less excited about them when the formerly entertaining and record setting duo of Faulk and Warner aren't the ones doing the damage.  'Dems was good times...  Oh well.  Still some good play on both ends of the field right now!

I'm a little surprised a certain Vikequeen fan hasn't been in here lately, raising all kinds of raucous over a certain undefeated team up in the great North.  Damned spectacular play by Moss this weekend to end the first half of their game...   8)

Some seriously surprising 5-1 teams in the NFC right now too: Cowboys, Seahawks and Panthers.  Say what?!   ???

So, how's everyone else's teams doin' out there??  (Sarge, you don't have to comment if you don't like)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on October 23, 2003, 07:51 AM
Obviously its been all about baseball the last few weeks in Beantown, but now that it's sadly over, the Patriots will be front page sports news now.  And they are quietly 5 - 2 after a huge OT win against Miami in Miami, where they never win in October or November.  And they're doing it with a slew of injuries, especially on defense.  They're playing Belichick football - its not always pretty but it gets the job done.  They play the Browns at home this week and then travel to Denver.  Its quite possible they could be 7 - 2 going into their bye week.  After the bye week, they have national game with the Tuna returning to Foxboro with his surprise Cowboys.  

Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on October 23, 2003, 04:34 PM
No Matt I don't mind commenting  ;)

 What can I say The Pack is terrible so far this season. WTF are they doing?  The KC lose was the last straw. Plus our terrific free agent signings are really paying off**cough cough Joe Johnson**  O well theres always next year  ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Jango Fettish on October 23, 2003, 11:11 PM
Being a Buc's fan, I am at a loss for words. It seems like I was taunting the Raiders for having a Super Bowl hangover, and now it seems like the Buc's wheels are falling off.

Now that B.K. returned from surgery, only to be sidelined for the rest of the year, it's going to be hard to push on with so many starters lost for so long.

Buc's Defense has no excuse for playing poorly. I'm just shocked.

I am glad to see Quincy Carter finally get some recognition. I was sure he was just going to become the next Ryan Leaf.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on October 31, 2003, 11:41 AM
Huge Game on Sunday for the Pack and not so much the Vikes...a Vikes win puts them 4 games up and a lock on the North Race.  A loss puts them only 2 games up and still sitting pretty good

With Farvee's thumb, the Pack's record at Metrodome and their recent woes and a horrible D, I think the Vikes will win and win handily :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on October 31, 2003, 12:40 PM
  Surprisingly I haven't heard all that much on the local news about Bretts thumb- wait till after the game if they lose and I probably will hear more :-\  Anyway I don't think Favre will be the main issue on sundays game- I think the defence or lack of will be the main factor- I am sure Favre will have his 2 ints.   But you never know the Giants gave me some hope ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 3, 2003, 02:20 PM
No gloating from Wayne this morning :D

What a horrible game by the Vikes D...absolutely awful.  They are reverting back to last year with horrible, horrible tackling.  Favre as much as I hate him played his brains out last night, big win for the Pack, the Vikes could have buried them but gave them hope :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on November 3, 2003, 03:29 PM
No Scott I was going to just let it slide I figured you probably felt bad enough as it is ;)

    I will admit I was as shocked as you as to the way the Pack played. Favre played the way he should be playing and the rest of the team held their own.  It was a big win that we needed to just keep playoff hopes alive. There were some very good games around the NFL this past weekend though.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on November 4, 2003, 05:03 AM
No gloating from Wayne this morning :D

What a horrible game by the Vikes D...absolutely awful.  They are reverting back to last year with horrible, horrible tackling.  Favre as much as I hate him played his brains out last night, big win for the Pack, the Vikes could have buried them but gave them hope :-\

Wayne wasn't the one that wanted to come in here and gloat/talk $h!t...  A certain Mrs. JediMAC wanted the password to come in and get a piece of one OCB - especially after I told her you call her boy Beth!   :P  But fortunately I kept the password locked up safe, and she couldn't unload on you Scott, 'cause she was pretty fired up and ready to go (especially after drinking a few beers).   :-X

You can thank me later Scott...   ;)

Was a nice game by Beth Brett though, wasn't it...?

On a much sadder note - the Raiders season is over.  They officially SUCK, and suck BAD.   >:(  Rams got spanked too.  Not digging football so much this season so far...
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 4, 2003, 07:21 AM
That was the best MNF game I've seen in a long time and thankfully the Pats won.  They are now 7 - 2 heading into their bye week, which should help them tremendously, as they are dealing with a slew of injuries.  They have started 40 different players this season :o When a team does that, they usually suck, but this team finds a way to get it done.  Bill Belichick should get some Coach of the Year consideration with the work he's done.

After the bye week, the Big Tuna comes back to Foxboro and brings his NFC East leading Cowboys with him to Razor Field.  Should be interesting.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 4, 2003, 09:58 AM
Great Game last night agreed...Pats showed something and it amazing that they are doing all of this with tons of injuries!  The Colts-Bucs game was the best Game of the year but last night was also a doozy.  Took a lot to take that safety and then stop the Broncos and then score the TD.

I am super mad because Jason Elam is my kicker in my real Fantasy Football league, I lost by 4 points  >:(  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on November 9, 2003, 05:52 PM
Man, do the Chicago Bears suck.  I really hope there are SEVERAL changes after this season (i.e. getting rid of coaching staff).  This team is such an embarassment to the city of Chicago.   >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jokabofe on November 9, 2003, 08:35 PM
yeah, my seahwaks sucked the big one today too... looks like they are remembering that they are the seahawks, and the printer's at the local newspaper have been putting their record in backwards  ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 9, 2003, 10:42 PM
I'm not going to comment on the Bolts Vikes game either :-X

Just hoping for an Eagles win at Lambeau tomorrow
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on November 9, 2003, 10:58 PM
Just hoping for an Eagles win at Lambeau tomorrow

Same here.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Matt on November 10, 2003, 09:25 PM
I don't have much to add here (much bigger fan of college football than of pro), but the next time I hear the asinine phrase "The Ohio State University", from one of those Monday Night Football, talking-head player introductions, I'm going to pull an Elvis and put a bullet through the television.

Shut the **** up.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 10, 2003, 09:28 PM
The Vikings (Cris Carter, Robert Smith and Korey Stringer may he RIP) started that back in 1998.  I agree that it is old...the funny thing is when idiots would say...

The New Mexico State University or something equally as asinine
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Matt on November 10, 2003, 09:34 PM
The Vikings (Robert Smith and Korey Stringer may he RIP) started that back in 1998.  I agree that it is old...the funny thing is when idiots would say...

The New Mexico State University or something equally as asinine

Ah, so there's a history to this gaywad phrase.  Had no idea. . .

So, Ohio State alums have been doing this for five years?  Who're the ad wizards who came up with that one?  (EDIT:  And who in the hell thinks it's still clever?)

Signed,

Virex
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Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on November 10, 2003, 11:29 PM
If I'm missing a joke here, just laugh at me behind my back please, but....

Ohio State is properly titled The Ohio State University.  It is on all their communications, letterhead, etc.  I applied for grad school there.  Seemed like a tad pompous name at the time.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 10, 2003, 11:43 PM
No you are right Brent...it is correct...noone calls it that though except people who went there...and Football players didn't either until the 3 Vikes started doing it
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Matt on November 11, 2003, 12:05 AM
If I'm missing a joke here, just laugh at me behind my back please, but....

Ohio State is properly titled The Ohio State University.  It is on all their communications, letterhead, etc.  I applied for grad school there.  Seemed like a tad pompous name at the time.  

Yeah, well, you see, where I'm from, there's only one OSU:

(http://www.teamflagstore.com/okstate.jpg)

And while I'm more of a Sooner fan than a Cowboy fan, I'm certainly not caught up in all of the stuck-up pageantry regarding The Ohio State University Suck-eyes. . .

So, anyway, thanks for filling me in, Morgbug.  Didn't know that was the official terminology.  Doesn't make it any less stupid. . .
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 11, 2003, 12:14 AM
ANOTHER great game tonight...Beth Farve choked on it big time!  I hate seeing the Vikings lose but it makes it a little easier to stomach when the Pack lose their 3rd game at home!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on November 11, 2003, 09:50 AM
Enjoy it Scott ;D
   These guys are really getting pathetic- 6 fumbles so what the weather was bad the Eagles didn't drop the damn ball.  I can think of million$ of reason$ to hold on to the ball.  I have to say they don't deserve to win.  Terrible terrible showing-
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on November 11, 2003, 11:05 AM
Dammit!  Another Monday Night Football game where I went to bed with less than 2 minutes left in the game, and I had to miss the Eagles beat the Packers in the last minute.  I thought the game was over too.  That really pisses me off man.

Oh well, the Pack lost and that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 11, 2003, 11:09 AM
LOL...I haven't missed a game yet.  There have been a ton of GREAT Monday night games, the Cowboys/Giants, the Bucs/Colts, the Broncos/Pats and last night.

Hard to throw the ball with two hands wrapped around that neck huh Beth?
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on November 17, 2003, 12:46 AM

Hard to throw the ball with two hands wrapped around that neck huh Beth?

While the wheels have officially come off in Tampa Bay, I may as well say the same thing about the Vikes and their 6 turnovers, losing 4 in a row, including 10+ point losses to the previously 1-7 Chargers and the 2-7 Raiders.


Jeez. First ya loose A.J. to the Giants, now this?  :-*

Get Mike Tice to shave that god awful beard, it's bad luck.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 17, 2003, 09:00 AM
Yeah horrible...I predicted a 10-6 season and they'll be lucky to finish 9-7.  It is hard to watch, very hard :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 17, 2003, 09:01 AM
Yeah but the big difference is the Vikes are 6-4 and still leading their division, whereas the Bucs are officially in the *******.  The Vikes still have at least three wheels left, albeit, barely.  The Bucs have now switched to a unicycle as their official mode of transportation.

While most games yesterday were **** teams playing **** teams, a few were note worthy.  The Chiefs are now defeated, by the Bengals of all teams.  While not a Super Bowl contender yet, the Bengals have been playing some good ball lately and have their foot in the door for a division title.  Marvin Lewis has turned this team around and has them playing close games.  I actually predicted before the season started they would finish 8 - 8 and it just may happen.

The Eagles offense finally showed up and they are now 7-3 after a 0-2 start and tied for first with the Cowboys.  The Giants, like I've always believed, are an overated team.  Fassel is gone after the season is over, if not sooner.

Now for the game of the week, IMO.  Pats vs. Cowboys, Belichick vs. Parcells.  Was their a lot of hype for this game?  Yes.  Did it live up to it?  Some what.  Neither Bill is one to stir the pot and they just let their players decide the game.  Overall, an enjoyable, tough, physical game between two very good defenses.  The final score reflected that, with the Pats winning 12 - 0.  They are now 8 - 2 and still have a 2 game lead in the AFC East over the Fins.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: DSJ™ on November 17, 2003, 09:14 AM
Well this may not be NFL but hey, I'm from Canada were we have the CFL. So for today, Hooray for the home team!  8)

        (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/smilies/lustig/21.gif)   :-*  Edmonton Eskimos win Grey Cup!   :-*   (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/smilies/lustig/24.gif)

The Edmonton Eskimos are Grey Cup champions for the first time in 10 years and for the 12th time in franchise history.

The Edmonton Eskimos defeated the Montreal Alouettes 34-22 Sunday in the Canadian Football League's 2003 championship game.

(http://www.sportscene.ca/Images/Eskimo-Logo.gif)

(http://www.sportsnet.ca/images/sportsnet_story_images/football/esks_champs240_1116.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on November 17, 2003, 02:54 PM
I've come to accept the Buc's not going back to the Super Bowl, nor the playoffs, and the possibility that this is going to hurt Warren Sapp's chances of coming back, as well as a few others.

Like years past, I'll stay true, and just hope for a healthier Buc's team next year. I feel real let down, and if I had my say, Kenyatta Walker would be ******* cut as soon as the season is over.

In the mean time, I'll resort to pulling for my 2nd fav. team, the "Cardiac Cats", as we call them here.

It was an ugly game yesterday, especially, but I am hoping they can get it together here in the stretch, and then we'll see if they are playoff worthy.

Whats even funnier is that the Bungals are 5-5, and in 1st place. Haven't heard crazy talk like that since the days of Anthony Munoz, Ickey Woods, Boomer Esiason, and friggin' Sam Wyche (who never did the Buc's much good, thankyaverymuch)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 17, 2003, 03:41 PM

and if I had my say, Kenyatta Walker would be ******* cut as soon as the season is over.



Edit:  Never mind, I mixed him up with another Kenyatta.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on November 17, 2003, 06:41 PM
Yeah, Kenyatta Jones from your very own Pats.

I was talking about the Kenyatta who is going to get an even ruder awakening then being booed out of Tampa, when he finally snaps someones neck by way of facemask wrestling.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 19, 2003, 05:10 PM
(http://www.dallasgothic.com/pantallideth/Cowboys.jpg)

We still have 3 more tough games I'm worried about: the Panthers this week, the Dolphins on T'giving, and at the Eagles. I think we can go 3-2 (counting the Bills and Patriots) in those 5 games, and we're 1-1 so far. The next two are at home, and we are 4-1 at home, 3-2 on the road.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on November 20, 2003, 12:04 AM
Cowboys play the Fins on Thanksgiving? Man, whatever happened to the good ol days when it was almost always Skins and Cowboys?

Anywho, after being blanked by way of 4 field goals, I have a little more faith in the Cats abilities this week. Guess we'll just have to wait and see though.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 20, 2003, 08:34 AM
Mark my words, the Cowboys won't win the NFC East.  While they do have a good, almost great, defense, their offense is suspect.  Honestly, how many good teams have they beaten?  They barely beat the Eagles in Dallas when the Birds were the second coming of the 90s Bengals.  Bills?  Not a good team.  Jets?  Ditto.  Giants and Redskins?  Overated.  

Are they going in the right direction?  Most definitely and that's coming from a life long Cowboys hater.  The Tuna knows how to coach and they will win a division title sooner rather than later.  It just won't be this year.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Paul on November 20, 2003, 09:16 AM
I have to agree, I am a die hard Cowboy fan and when the season started, all I wanted for Christmas was a better showing than 5-11.....now that we've got that, I have amended my list to picking up a Quarterback in the Offseason that can do more than "Mangage" a game, but win one.  Carter is the best we've got, but far from good.  

Every win from now on is just Icing for me.  

My only complaint is that with the Defense we have, most High School QB's could at least find a way to put 14 points on the board and win some games......

I think they will win the Division this year, but lose in the first round....

Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 20, 2003, 11:14 AM
Mark my words, the Cowboys won't win the NFC East.  While they do have a good, almost great, defense, their offense is suspect.  Honestly, how many good teams have they beaten?  They barely beat the Eagles in Dallas when the Birds were the second coming of the 90s Bengals.  Bills?  Not a good team.  Jets?  Ditto.  Giants and Redskins?  Overated.  

Are they going in the right direction?  Most definitely and that's coming from a life long Cowboys hater.  The Tuna knows how to coach and they will win a division title sooner rather than later.  It just won't be this year.

Well, we'll see. The buzz from Valley Ranch is that they have been working on the mistakes which have plagued them the last few games. We are tough at home, and similarly to the Pats, the Panthers are mirror images of the Cowboys even down to the lackluster offenses. If we win just 2 of our next 3 games, I think the division will be ours!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 20, 2003, 11:54 AM

The buzz from Valley Ranch is that they have been working on the mistakes which have plagued them the last few games.

Saying you're fixing the problem and actually doing it are too different things.

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We are tough at home, and similarly to the Pats, the Panthers are mirror images of the Cowboys even down to the lackluster offenses.

The big difference is the Pats have beaten good teams (Miami, Tennessee) while the Cowboys have not (Bucs, Pats).  A good team beats other good teams, not just the scrubs.

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If we win just 2 of our next 3 games, I think the division will be ours!

Ok, Dallas' next three games are at home versus Carolina, at home against Miami on Thanksgiving (on four days rest) and at Philadelphia.  I'll give you Carolina but I don't see them beating Miami on four days rest.  While the Fins have had their problems this year on offense, their D is one of the tops in the league.  We've all seen how good Carter has played against good defenses,ie, the Bucs and Pats.  No points.  While I don't expect Miami to shut them out - it is Thanksgiving and the Boys always play good on that day - I don't think Dallas will win.

That leaves them 1-1, leaving them having to beat Philly if they want the division (according to your scenario).  I can guarantee you the Eagles have been waiting for this game since that loss they suffered in Dallas, a game they should have won.  And how tough is it to sweep a divison opponent?  Sure it does happen, but I just don't see the Eagles losing two to the Cowboys this year.

The key will be the final 3 weeks.  After week 14, I have the Boys at 8-5 and the Eagles at 9-4, beating Dallas and either Carolina or NO.  The Eagles then finish at Miami, SF at home and at Washington.  The Boys are at Washington, Giants at home and at NO.  Those two remaining division games for the Boys are key.

But hey, if I'm wrong and the Cowboys do actually win the division, then I'm man enough to come in here and admit as such.   Either way, it should be a great final six weeks of the season.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 20, 2003, 01:06 PM
Aaahhh, but Miami plays that Sunday NIGHT, so no practice on Monday. They practice on Tuesday, then fly to Dallas on Wednesday (maybe get a walk-through) and play Thursday. Edge Dallas (who play at noon on Sunday).

And what do you mean we haven't beaten any good teams? The Eagles are tied with us for first place and we beat them!

As for fixing mistakes, come on, you're a Pats fan. You of all people should know that when Parcells wants something fixed, it gets fixed.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 20, 2003, 02:24 PM
Yes I know they beat the Eagles.  I know a win is a win, but the Eagles weren't exactly playing good ball back then and they Boys only beat them by two points.  Besides them, what other "good" team have the Cowboys beaten?

And you should know that fixing problems doesn't happen in a week.  Parcells did fix a lot of problems with the Pats, but it certainly didn't happen in a week. His first year he was 5-11, then 9-7 the following I believe and in his third year, they went to the Super Bowl.  So yes, he fixed problems but it took him three years.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Snively Bandar on November 20, 2003, 06:34 PM
I've come to accept the Buc's not going back to the Super Bowl, nor the playoffs, and the possibility that this is going to hurt Warren Sapp's chances of coming back, as well as a few others.

Like years past, I'll stay true, and just hope for a healthier Buc's team next year.

So what's your take on the Bucs dumping Keshawn cold turkey?  Talented as hell, but one heck of an attitude with that guy!

I'm still expecting a few of the overachieving teams in the league to flounder over the course of the final third of the season.  You can only play over your heads for so long, before reality catches up to you!  Several of them already have over the last couple weeks.

But I think the race to the Super Bowl is still wide open.  Much moreso than in any recent years that I can remember.  Just no real standout teams that are heads and shoulders above the rest, especially since I don't quite buy into the Chiefs impressive season quite yet.  I'd have to say that the AFC is looking a little stronger overall, with the Pats, Chiefs, Colts and Titans all playing pretty well, and sporting some solid D.  But the Chiefs (and maybe Colts) seem to have the best balance when it comes to some decent offense as well.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 21, 2003, 07:32 AM
Even as a Pats fan, I think the Titans are the class of the AFC right now, but the Chiefs, Colts and Pats are not that far behind.  Any one of them has a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl.

Now the NFC is completely different.  There are just a bunch of mediocre teams.  Right now, if I had to pick the NFC Champions, I would say the Eagles.  After starting out horribly and decimated with injuries, they have been winning lately, albeit very ugly.  Last week against the Giants, everything clicked:  offense, defense and the injured players are starting to return.  You know what they say, the best time to get good is at the end of the season and its happening for the Eagles.  The only other teams I see as even being serious contenders are Carolina and possibly the Rams.  But the Eagles have the experience and they know this year is it.  If they don't it done this year, then its going to be a while before Philadelphia has a Super Bowl Champion.

As for Keyshawn, its a classic case of addition by subtraction.  Its a little too late for the Bucs to salvage their season, so this is the first step into bettering the team for next year.  Its possible he'll go to Dallas, but they already have a solid trio of receivers.  But he'll fit right in there, he's a typical Dallas player.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Paul on November 21, 2003, 08:32 AM
It would take some serious work for Keyshawn to fit under the Salary Cap here at his present salary.  Besides we need a Running Back.

As far as NFC contenders go, and as much as it pains me, I think the 49'ers have a good chance to come on strong at the end.  And it is true what you say, it is the team that finishes strong or hits their stride at the end that usually has the best playoff run, unless they choke on success.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 21, 2003, 11:35 AM
Its possible he'll go to Dallas, but they already have a solid trio of receivers.  But he'll fit right in there, he's a typical Dallas player.

What's that supposed to mean?!?! >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on November 21, 2003, 12:53 PM

So what's your take on the Bucs dumping Keshawn cold turkey?  Talented as hell, but one heck of an attitude with that guy!

Keenan McCardell seems to be filling whatever void Keyshawn's leaving quite nicely.

Personally, I've never really cared for the guy. He had a bigger mouth in N.Y. than Terrell Owens has ever had. Their recieving core is stacked, and the running game is crap. When it comes to the run, we solely depend on Michael Pittman. No more Mike Alstott, and it seems like Aaron Stecker may as well just be returning kicks.

As for the Buc's actually losing Keyshawn, whos to say. He and Jon Gruden have such a good relationship, but his play isn't equaling his pay. Whatever happened to Snoop Meniss? Claimed him off of waivers from the Chiefs and haven't heard about him since?

Theres just alot wrong in T. Bay, and it needs to be straightened out in the offseason. There's really no excuse either, especially when you come back with the same players from last years Super Bowl champion team, sans Dexter Jackson. I mean, even when key players came back off of injuries, they still play like ****.

I'd rather see the Buc's get rid of Keyshawn, and rework their Defensive line over anything else. The season isn't totally unsalvageable, but if we keep playing like this, even a Wild Card bid seems like a stretch, and thats hard for me to accept.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 21, 2003, 02:00 PM
Its possible he'll go to Dallas, but they already have a solid trio of receivers.  But he'll fit right in there, he's a typical Dallas player.

What's that supposed to mean?!?! >:(

I know you love Dallas, but they haven't had the greatest history with players.  Keyshawn is an egoist, which I is why I said he'll fit in nicely, along with Terry Glenn and Joey Gallaway.  Add to that list Michael Irvin, who had a huge ego, not to mention he was a crack head and a rapist.  And Larry Allen isn't exactly the next coming of the Pope, either.  How about Nate Newton?  How many times has he been arrested for marijuana possession and I'm not talking for a joint or ounce, either.  He had pounds of it multiple times.  Defend them all you want, but the above players are scumbags.  Its too bad Emmit had to play in Dallas with scumbags, he was a class act.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 21, 2003, 02:36 PM
Mike wasn't a crackhead, he was a cokehead. And he wasn't a rapist, he was caught doing lines off a hookers boobs in a hotel. The rape allegations by that tittydancer were proven false because a local reporter got her to say all that crap. When they got into court, she rescinded and the reporter got fired. Not saying Mike was an upstanding citizen, but he wasn't a rapist.

And one of the classiest guys ever to suit up in the NFL played here too: Roger Staubach, the Cardiac Kid.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 21, 2003, 02:48 PM
Fair enough, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because you were actually in Dallas, whereas all I heard was the opinion of the Philadelphia media, a media who hated all things Cowboys.  

I don't doubt the Cowboys have or have had class act players, but coming from an area that hates the Cowboys, all you remember is the bad.

I may be wrong, but isn't crack just rock cocaine, so I wasn't too far off in calling Irvin a crackhead.  Crack or coke, it doesn't make a difference.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Paul on November 21, 2003, 03:23 PM
Right, it is always best to believe the Media...especially from a place were fans put batteries in snow balls and that crappy turf ended the career of the guy you are trying to crucify.

I'm sure Dallas is the not only place that has had players who got into trouble...

Besides Keyshawn couldn't play with Galloway and Glenn, we'd have to get rid of one of their Salaries to fit him in.  The problem would be we don't have a quarter back that can get him the ball, unless he likes it thrown behind him.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 21, 2003, 05:11 PM
Hey, at least we don't have a pro bowl murderer playing middle linebacker like the Ravens. Or have a WR who shot his pregnant girlfriend to death like the team we play Sunday (although he no longer plays for the Panthers). Our former all-pro guard IS in jail for smuggling marijuana and getting caught TWICE!!! But, a little weed never hurt nobody (joking).

And yes, crack and cocaine are the same, more or less. I was just splitting hairs...
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 23, 2003, 04:37 PM
Yeah, the 8-3 Cowboys haven't beaten any good teams this year... ::)

8-3 Cowboys 24
8-3 Panthers 20
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 24, 2003, 07:31 AM
Well it only took until week 12 for the Cowboys to beat a team with a winning record.  Good for them.  They still won't win the division, though.

And Ray Lewis was acquited of the murder charge (or not charged at all, I don't remember).  

The Pats are now 9-2, but man was that an ugly win yesterday.  Almost 500 yards of offense against less than 200 yards for the Texans (Kevin Faulk had more all purpose yards than the entire Texans team) but three turnovers by Tom Brady almost cost them the game.  It took almost the entire OT period to win, but a win is a win and we're sitting pretty.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: chuckles on November 24, 2003, 08:14 AM
Well it only took until week 12 for the Cowboys to beat a team with a winning record.  Good for them.  They still won't win the division, though.

 

Actually, the Cowboys have already beaten the Eagles this year. Are they not 8-3 as well? Hmmm, 2-0 against the other top 2 teams in the NFC this year. Not too shabby.  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 24, 2003, 09:22 AM
The Eagles were 2-2 when the Cowboys beat them, so technically they didn't beat a team with a winning record until week 12.  When they can beat teams like Carolina consistently, then I'll praise them.  Even then, they won't get much praise from me.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 24, 2003, 10:20 AM
Right, it is always best to believe the Media...especially from a place were fans put batteries in snow balls and that crappy turf ended the career of the guy you are trying to crucify.

And they booed Santa Claus.  So what?  ;)

Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 24, 2003, 01:19 PM
OK, your qualification of which teams are good and which are not is kind of whack. Except for the undefeated teams at the time, pretty much most of the decent teams were at .500 or worse. Cincinatti, who is on FIRE right now, was 1-3. So Philly at 2-2 still qualified as a good team which the Cowboys beat. The Cowboys also beat "one of the best teams in the NFC" yesterday. When the 49ers won all those Super Bowls in the 80s, they never played a good team except for their AFC games or the playoffs. The Rams were sorry, the Falcons were sorry and the Saints were sorry all through most of the 80s. Are you going to sit there and say the 49ers, based on their season record, weren't any good?

Your Pats got skunked 31-0 by Buffalo, whom the Cowboys beat. The Rams were 2-2 when we beat Philly, too. Are the Rams a bad team at 8-3? Your logic about which tema are good and bad holds no argument. If the Cowboys were (and I know it's a long shot) go on to win the Super Bowl, you would find some other thing to nitpick: "they didn't win by 35 points!"
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 24, 2003, 02:24 PM
I said they never beat a team with a winning record until week 12.  Period. Last time I checked, 2-2 isn't a winning record.  Are the Eagles a good team?  Yes.  The Panthers?  Yes.  But the fact is the Cowboys didn't beat a team with a winning record until week 12.  I never denied the Cowboys aren't a good team, hell I've seen it first hand when they played the Pats.  I don't deny the fact that Parcels really turned your program around.  But until the Cowboys prove to me that they can hang with the "big boys", they haven't proved anything to me.  Was Carolina a step in the right direction.  Absolutely.  Do it consistently and I'll change my opinion.  And my promise still stands:  if the Cowboys happen to win their division, then I'll come in here like a man and admit I was wrong.  


But that also means if they don't win their division, I can come in here and gloat, right?  ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 24, 2003, 02:53 PM
Actually, I'm wrong.  The Cowboys beat the Giants, who were 1-0, in week 2.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 24, 2003, 03:47 PM
I'm with Mikey on this one I think the Eagles will win the division and are a better team than the Cowboys...I haven't seen them beat anyone real spectacular to make me a believer yet.  They play in a weak conference and a weak division.  The NFC in general is down.  They have beaten teams at home as well...which they should be doing

I think they are for sure in the top 6 in the NFC but I think they are one and out due to a horrible Offense.  If they had a better O I think I would think a little better of them

I also wish the Vikes would have taken R Williams and Newman instead of McKinnie and K Williams (if they had had the chance)...those guys are awesome...the whole D is fun to watch.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: chuckles on November 24, 2003, 07:34 PM
I'm with Mikey on this one I think the Eagles will win the division and are a better team than the Cowboys...I haven't seen them beat anyone real spectacular to make me a believer yet.  They play in a weak conference and a weak division.  The NFC in general is down.  They have beaten teams at home as well...which they should be doing



You say the Cowboys haven't beaten anybody, but who have the Eagles beaten this year to make you a believer in them? Nobody, that's who. The record of the Eagles opponents this year is 54-64, while the Cowboys opponents are 53-66. Pretty much the same. They both have played the Bucs and the Pats, and have both lost them both. Very even. The only difference is, the Cowboys have the #1 defense in the NFC, and by a long ways, while the Eagles D is only mediocre statistically speaking, and for the offense, they both are almost the same in both yards per game and also points scored.

The real test for both these teams will be the next 2-3 weeks. The Cowboys play the Dolphins and then the Eagles, while the Eagles play Carolina, Dallas and Miami. We'll pretty much now after these games who's taken that division. But I do believe both teams will make the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on November 24, 2003, 08:44 PM
You say the Cowboys haven't beaten anybody, but who have the Eagles beaten this year to make you a believer in them? Nobody, that's who.

Well look at that!  Took someone bad mouthin' Jim's 'Boys to wake him from his hibernation!  How ya' been, Jim?!   :-*

I tried the same with Brent in the NBA thread, but it didn't work too well, 'cause he knows his Celtics suck ass.

My Raiders blew another one on Sunday, losing to the Chiefs on a game ending field goal.  Pathetic.  First to worst.

At least the Rams and Pack keep pluggin' away, and are looking pretty solid.  We'll see what happens come playoff time though.  Until then, consider me relatively uninterested in this fairly uneventful season.   :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on November 24, 2003, 09:24 PM
The Bears won and I couldn't believe it.   :o

I (and every other Chicagoan) was thinking the Broncos were going to destroy the Bears, but that obviously didn't happen.  The Bears played fairly well, and they've given some good teams a very hard time (almost beat the Rams and beat the Broncos).  Are they going to be in the playoffs?  HELL NO!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jokabofe on November 24, 2003, 09:44 PM
My Raiders blew another one on Sunday, losing to the Chiefs on a game ending field goal.  Pathetic.  First to worst.

yeah, well at least they didn't blow a 14 point lead with under 7 minutes left and lose in overtime, like a certain other team that i know of did.  ::) but then, i read this on nfl.com:

Quote
(Nov. 24, 2003) -- An officiating blunder gave Baltimore critical extra time in its fourth-quarter comeback victory over Seattle, the NFL said.

NFL supervisor of officials Mike Pereira said both the 40-second clock and the game clock should have been restarted after an officials' conference over a penalty call with 58 seconds left in regulation. The Seahawks had the ball and led 41-38.

Because the clock wasn't started, the Ravens had 39 seconds left instead of four or five when they got the ball back on downs at the Baltimore 33.


so how much does that suck? and talk about first to worst, my 'hawks were riding high above the nfc west at 5-1 just a few weeks ago, and all of a sudden the rams pick up their game, and we lose some of ours with a 2-3 record over the last 5 weeks, and suddenly we're sitting in 2nd place at 7-4. my hopes for this season are slowly quickly fading away....  :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 25, 2003, 11:48 AM
Hey, if the COWBOYS wash out, gloat all you want. This whole season (admittedly) has been an unexpected gift for us COWBOYS fans. But the Eagles haven't beaten anybody, either. I think the Panthers will beat the Eagles. I think the Dolphins will, too. I think we'll beat the Dolphins and the Eagles game will be tough. Still, if we handle our bidness, we win the division. That's how it should be. No one wants to "back into the playoffs."
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: FX-7 on November 25, 2003, 03:34 PM
man my Broncos lost to the Bears...the Bears S-U-C-K and they lost to them :-\  I hope they can turn it around and at least make the playoffs.  I am not holding my breath though because the other teams in the AFC are better than the Broncos
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 25, 2003, 04:13 PM
I just looked at the Eagles schedule...it didn't look too hot either but they started off horrible and have been 8-1 since then.  Beating the Pack on the Road is more impressive to me than beating the Panthers at Home.  It will all play out in the next few weeks and we shall see who is eating what later

I think the playoff teams will be

Cowboys
Eagles
Rams
Panthers
Packers
Bucs

I think Tampa is going to win out and I have no faith in the Vikings after their 4 game slide.  I'll be shocked if they finish 10-6...8-8 is very possible which is disgusting :-[
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 25, 2003, 04:14 PM
Damn that's right, no more of my #1 Cutie, I'll tune in to see Beth break her leg and to check out the new boombalotti on the sidelines (curse you ABC for not picking Brenda Warner!)

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I'm quoting this just for Mikey too
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Paul on November 25, 2003, 04:51 PM
I wonder if Brenda throws better than Kurt these days?  Man I guess all the Hot wives are married to Hockey Players...

Spiderlegs does have a point, we are not 5-11 or 1-15 so this season is a success for the 'Boys.  I am just scared where we would be with a REAL Quarterback.  Probably 9 or 10 wins...

It looks like whoever ends the season in the NFC with 10 wins will be in the playoffs.  How sad is that.  No dominant teams in the NFC, where have you gone Late 80's early 90's???? I blame Parity, the Salary Cap and Chan Gailey....
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 25, 2003, 05:17 PM
Parity has given "On any given Sunday" new meaning...
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 26, 2003, 07:33 AM
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I'm quoting this just for Mikey too

Thanks.  I really needed that ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 26, 2003, 10:07 AM
Happy Thankgiving Mikey :-*  Think of Brenda when you are wathcing football, eating turkey etc
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on November 26, 2003, 10:12 AM
I'm going to give thanks that the Rams aren't playing on Thanksgiving, so's I don't have to look at her and choke on a turkey leg.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on November 26, 2003, 06:22 PM
Don't count out the Panthers, most recent Superbowl champs didn't have great offenses either; it's the defense and special teams. Panthers will have a week 1 bye in playoffs then face either dallas or eagles for NFC title.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jokabofe on November 26, 2003, 08:52 PM
I think the playoff teams will be

Cowboys
Eagles
Rams
Panthers
Packers
Bucs


overlooking seattle might cost you... they are slipping a little bit, but don't count them out just yet. at least give them another few weeks to blow a few more games before we count them out totally. the last 5 games are cleveland, minnesota, st. louis, arizona, and san fran. i can realistically say they should go 2-3 in that stretch, maybe 3-2 if they get a few breaks and the refs don't forget how to work the time clock. so that should put them at 9-7 at worst, or 10-6 at best, which should be enough to get them into the playoffs, at least a wild card.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 26, 2003, 09:22 PM
I think the Packers a lock...they have an easy schedule and I can see them going 4-1 over the last 6 to finish 10-6 (they have the easiest schedule in the league remaining and are playing some good ball)

I don't see the Seahawks beating the Rams in the West (it could happen I guess) and at best they will be like you said 10-6 but I think 9-7 is probably more realistic

The Eagles, Cowboys and Panthers need 2 more wins and all will be at least 10 wins

So that leaves...

Seahawks
Vikings
Bucs
49ers
Saints

All battling for the wildcard at 9-7

If one team gets 10 they are in and the fact that the Vikes and Seahawks play each other and they are both the front runners...one or the other has the best chance right now

However...I can see the Bucs winning the rest of their games and beating out the Seahawks and the Vikes for the last spot.  Which is what I predicted...I hope I am wrong and the Vikings win the North and it is between GB and Seattle for the last spot but both teams recent downslides has me a little pessimistic
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jokabofe on November 26, 2003, 09:45 PM
ok, you make some good points... guess we'll just have to wait and see. but i'm still putting my money (yeah, like i got any) on seattle to make the playoffs, not as the division leader (which they looked like a shoo-in for around week 6) but as a wildcard. if they win the division i will be shocked. shocked. but they have a game against st. louis coming up, so we'll see who wins that game. to me, the winner of that game in week 15 will win the division. **crosses fingers**
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on November 26, 2003, 09:56 PM
Where do the Vikes and Seahawks play?  As a long suffering Vikings fan, I share your pain Scott, but the telltale sign is probably who has home field. The Seahawks are stinking it up on the road this year.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jokabofe on November 26, 2003, 10:05 PM
true, true... i wish we could play all of our games at home this year. but alas, we play in minnesota, so you can pretty much count that as a loss....  >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on November 26, 2003, 10:16 PM
The Seahawks are convenient and dependable in pick 'em pools, and for that I thank them.  

The Vikings are, well, the Vikings and you just never know what's going to happen with them.  There is some evil mojo going on in Minnesota football that goes back a very long way.  Purple people eaters and all that.  I think the only team that's proven more heartbreaking is the Bills.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jadesfire on November 27, 2003, 08:42 PM

 ;D  Oh what a Happy Thanksgiving day it was today.   Good food, great desserts and a Lion victory!!!!  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on November 27, 2003, 08:57 PM
It was nice seeing the Packers lose (sorry Wayne).   ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Paul on November 27, 2003, 10:17 PM
They only thing that makes the Cowboy loss tolerable is the fact that Brett Fahrve lost today too.

Oh well.  you can't win em all.  I am proud that in a losing effort we were able to put points on the board..since we've laid the goose egg twice this year.  We are a Quarterback and a Runningback away from winning 10 games in a season.

Just think how much better Miami's record would be if Fiedler would have been playing this last few weeks(the whole game).
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on November 27, 2003, 10:23 PM
Carter is going to be OK...the lack of a RB isd Dallas kills him.  Hambrick isn't the answer and if they manage to trade or sign Dillon this offseason they have a great shot at the Super Bowl again
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jokabofe on November 30, 2003, 06:57 PM
ok, seattle's up 34 - 0 with 5:04 left in the fourth... let's see if they can blow this lead...  ::)  *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jokabofe on November 30, 2003, 07:35 PM
and it started out just like last week... blocked punt returned for a touchdown again with time running out in the 4th quarter... what's up with special teams for my 'hawks!?!?!  ??? but at least we held on to win this week...  ;D

but with st. louis winning again, we're still in second place  >:(

i was actually rooting for the vikes for once, and they let me down... hard.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on November 30, 2003, 08:01 PM
It sure was nice seeing the Vikings get CRUSHED by the Rams.  At least the Bears gave the Rams some competition.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on December 1, 2003, 07:18 AM
The Pats jumped out to a 21 point lead early in the third and the preceded to give up three TDs to the Colts in a span of less than six minutes.  Hell of a football game, with the Pats winning 38-34 after stopping the Colts four times at the goal line.  They are now the #2 seed in the AFC.  I was hoping the Chargers would beat the Chiefs, so the Pats would jump to #1 (via better conference record), but alas, you can't win them all.

And the Eagles beat Carolina to gain sole leadership of the NFC East, after the Cowboys looked like the Cowboys of late and got manhandled by the Fins on Gobble Gobble day.  Just one step closer to my guarantee coming true.

Four weeks to go, with some great pigskin left.  Next week is a big week.  Fins at Pats, Indy at Tennessee, Bengals at Ravens, Cowboys at Eagles, Seattle at Minnesota and KC at Denver.  All have playoff implications.  Damn I wish I had Direct TV :(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 1, 2003, 02:11 PM
It sure was nice seeing the Vikings get CRUSHED by the Rams.  At least the Bears gave the Rams some competition.

At least the Vikings are still ahead of the Bears in the standings

I threw in the towel weeks ago, I almost hope they lose out so they can draft higher again instead of getting crushed in the first round of the playoffs, the defense is absolutely pathetic :-[

That Pats-Colts game yesterday was another of a string of great NFL games this year I think I watched more of that than I did the Vikes-Rams
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Darth Broem on December 2, 2003, 11:48 AM
I lucked into going to the Bears/Cardinals game Sunday.  The Bears finally scored a TD on their 1st possesion.  Yippee.  I can't believe the Bears are still in the playoff hunt with 5 wins.  LOL!  What a joke our division is this season.  Hell if they would have slipped by Detroit a few weeks back they would only be 1 game behind the Vikings.  Oh well.  

By the way the Soldier Field redone stadium was really nice once you get inside it.  I was stunned.  It's a totally new experience there.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 2, 2003, 12:03 PM
Well...either the Bears or the Pack will be all eliminated this weekend in whoever loses.  I am hoping its the Pack because the Bears chances are pretty long as well.  

I am going to the Vikes-Seahawks game this weekend...should be good but I expect Alexander to run all over us like he did last year.  Last years game was the worst Vikings game I have ever watched,  was actually laughing it was so bad.  Alexander scored 5 Touchdowns in the first half (3 in like 2 minutes)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Matt on December 2, 2003, 11:19 PM
HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!!

Video (http://www.k4dwi.net/files/CowboysLocker.mpg)

 :-X
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on December 3, 2003, 07:23 AM
Jeez that was only after they lost by 12 points to the Pats.  I would love to see a video after they got slaughtered by the Dolphins ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Paul on December 3, 2003, 08:02 AM
Go to www.theticket.com and listen on the net, they'll let you know exactly how the rest of us Cowboy fans are feeling about certain players and positions.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Matt on December 3, 2003, 12:13 PM
I hate to be too obvious, but I didn't just post that video to show a couple of sad Cowboys to everybody.  

No, that video deserves a closer look. . .   :)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 3, 2003, 12:18 PM
Yowza...that got on TV?
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Matt on December 3, 2003, 12:21 PM
Yowza...that got on TV?

Apparently so. . .   :o  That Dallas is one ****ed-up town, boy. . .  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on December 3, 2003, 12:23 PM
I just watched it again and saw "it".  I'll ask too - did they play that on TV?

Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Paul on December 4, 2003, 04:28 PM
Wow, well that will either dispel one rumor or prove another...


Unfortunately for that player you have to REALLY be looking.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 7, 2003, 05:17 PM
Just got back from the shelacking that the Vikes put on the Seahawks.  Wow what a complete domination and something I had not at all seen coming.  I thought for sure Alexander was going to stomp all over us, but the Vikes dominated O, D and Special Teams...great game with huge playoff implications!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Darth Broem on December 7, 2003, 05:21 PM
Yeah, you don't have to worry about the Bears now.  Well, nobody was.  LOL!  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on December 7, 2003, 05:24 PM
What a pathetic game for the Bears.  They started out on fire, but just gave it away.  Oh well.  At least we'll finally be able to see what Rex Grossman is all about.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jokabofe on December 7, 2003, 05:53 PM
Just got back from the shelacking that the Vikes put on the Seahawks.  Wow what a complete domination and something I had not at all seen coming.  I thought for sure Alexander was going to stomp all over us, but the Vikes dominated O, D and Special Teams...great game with huge playoff implications!

all i read here was, "blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah."  ::)

 ;D

hey, what can you do... maybe next year we can play all our games at home?  ???
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on December 7, 2003, 09:49 PM
Where do the Vikes and Seahawks play?  As a long suffering Vikings fan, I share your pain Scott, but the telltale sign is probably who has home field. The Seahawks are stinking it up on the road this year.  

Mark that down, I was right.  Once. :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on December 8, 2003, 07:43 AM
New England Patriots
2003 AFC East Champions

I must admit, a fairly lackluster game offensive wise.  The Pats and Miami combined for 22 total punts and the Pats offense only scored a field goal.  (A interception returned for a TD and a safety were the other points scored).  Just the first step for them, now they concentrate on keeping the #1 seed, with KC losing, they now have.

And the Cowboys got slaughtered once again ;D and the Eagles clinch a playoff berth and are two games up in the division with three to play.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on December 10, 2003, 08:06 PM
I would like to invite anyone who would like to discuss football to join my club, doesn't matter who your favorite team is, you can join
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carolinapanthers1
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Darth Broem on December 11, 2003, 11:00 AM
Anyone have Super Bowl predictions yet?  It's a tough one this year.  I can't really see a team head and shoulders above the rest just yet.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 11, 2003, 11:02 AM
I'm going to say Rams - Patriots, I could see Eagles - Patriots too depending on who gets homefield advantage.  The Pats D is just too good right now (I have them on my real FF team and they rule!)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on December 11, 2003, 11:19 AM
Obviously in the AFC, I think the Pats.  They just know how to win.

I agree with Scott on the NFC - whoever wins home field throughout will win the NFC.  The Eagles, I think, can win in St. Louis, but it'll be tough.  The reverse though, I don't see.

Indy could also possibly make some noise in the playoffs.  We'll see if Peyton can finally win a playoff game.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Darth Broem on December 12, 2003, 11:10 AM
Yeah, I kind of think the Eagles might make it this year.  The Rams just don't seem to play as well  once they are out of a dome stadium.   The Pats are certainly in it as well.  I also think the Colts could be dangerous.   I could see any of the playoff teams knocking each other off this season.  

Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 12, 2003, 11:17 AM
Bears are starting Grossman this week, should be another Vikings victory, although he may be an upgrade over Stewart :P  Talk about a bonehead front office...how many bungled draft picks and awful free agent signings will Bears management allow...they have been AWFUL for a few years now.  Which is why the Packers and Vikes have been on top since the late 80's, their front office and draft picks have been right on the money for the most part
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Darth Broem on December 14, 2003, 07:43 PM
Woulda, coulda, shoulda :) I am sorry OCB but I truly ditest Randy Moss and I just loved seeing him get the TD ball ripped away by a Bear rookie.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on December 14, 2003, 07:48 PM
Woulda, coulda, shoulda :) I am sorry OCB but I truly ditest Randy Moss and I just loved seeing him get the TD ball ripped away by a Bear rookie.

I couldn't agree with you more on that statement.   ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on December 14, 2003, 09:45 PM
Mindboggling. Lose to the Chargers and Bears, kill the Seahawks?

Late season faltering is nothing new to the Vikes, though.

Good to see Tampa Bay break .500. Panthers barely squeaked by, clinched their division, and the Raiders beat the Ravens?

Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 14, 2003, 09:56 PM
You forgot them losing to the Raiders

Winning on the road in the NFL is about the hardest thing to do in Pro Sports, the odd thing of the year is the Vikes beat the Packers at Lambeau and they beat the Vikes here

I have no faith in them, as I stated a few weeks ago, if they make the playoffs so what, they get destroyed in the 1st round anyway...

I better not see you cheering for the Bucs if they make the playoffs Cory, you jumped shipped 6 weeks ago and the bandwagon cruise is halfway to Hawaii :P
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 15, 2003, 11:23 AM
Also...watching the replay a couple of times last night.  That was a HORRIBLE throw by Culpepper, Moss probably should have caught it but if it was to the outside he would have for sure caught it and the CB wouldn't have had a chance.  The Vikes have to win out to clinch the division, fat chance on that playing the Chiefs and the Cardinals on the road.  8-8 here we come :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 16, 2003, 01:07 AM
What did you guys think of this little stunt

(http://pearljammers.football.sportsline.com/images/news/joehorn.jpg)

I loved it because it clinched the deal for my Real Fantasy Football league team, much like last year when I had T.O. on my team and he pulled the Sharpie trick.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on December 16, 2003, 10:53 AM
"I have great respect for Joe Horn, but that's not original," New York defensive end Michael Strahan said. "Terrell Owens already beat everybody to that stuff. That's bush league."

Please. That was cool as hell, and I would have done the same thing if I scored 4 touchdowns in 1 game.

The referees aren't doing their job, guys have cool celebrations. Let them have fun, and we'll call it even.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jokabofe on December 16, 2003, 04:56 PM
The referees aren't doing their job...

yeah, the refs are all too busy making sure the seahawks lose most of their games down the stretch... two games now that the hawks lost because of the refs. yeah, you can argue that engram might not have made the catch, but he obviously would have had a better chance if he didn't get knocked down by the ref. and the game against the ravens was just a ridiculous offense, letting them get 4 timeouts in the second half??
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 17, 2003, 09:37 PM
ESPN just had a thing about the greatest trades of all time

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/biggesttrades/031216.html

#5 hit me like a kick in the teeth

5. Herschel Walker: Cowboys to Vikings
Oct. 12, 1989: The Cowboys send Walker to the Vikings for LB Jesse Solomon, DB Issiac Holt, RB Darrin Nelson, LB David Howard and DE Alex Stewart as well as six assorted draft picks (conditional 1st- and 2nd-rounders in '90 and '91; 1st rounder and conditional 3rd in '92).

The trade was complicated and ended up being known more for how it built the Cowboys' dynasty of the '90s, but it was huge at the time. Walker was 27 and supposed to lead the Vikings to the Super Bowl. While he never matched his 1988 season, when he was second in the league in rushing, the Cowboys' final bundle from the deal (via various other trades) included Emmitt Smith, Russell Maryland, Kevin Smith and Darren Woodson.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I was in 9th Grade when the Vikes did this deal, during the middle of the season.  You would not believe how much hype and hoopla that deal created in town.  Herschel was going to lead us to the Super Bowl, they had almost gone two years before and seemed on the cusp of something great.  It never worked out...while they never really crapped out, they never made that next level again until 1998.  Dallas on the other hand goes on and wins 3 Super Bowls in 4 years and dominates the early 90's.  Imagine the Vikings a perennial playoff team who the next year could have taken rookiee Emmitt Smith... :'(  I'm going to go get a drink :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

(http://www.colosscollect.com/mags/si/si891023.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on December 20, 2003, 08:35 PM
 :o

Vikes win.

Conceivable, should the right things happen tomorrow, that they clinch the division and home field for the wild card round.  

Undeserved?
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on December 21, 2003, 01:53 AM
That was a really, really impressive effort.

The Vikes are mysterious, losses to the Bears, Raiders, and Chargers, but they mopped the floor with the Chiefs. I'd love to see them just..go..this season, and not choke.

As for T. Bay, let the speculation begin. I can already see Sapp memorabilia on bucgear.com going on clearance within a few weeks, and wouldn't be surprised to see another big name right behind him.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on December 21, 2003, 11:58 PM
Really good games today, but there is a little bit of sad news to report.  :'(

This afternoon, around 5:25, Brett Favre's father, Irvin Favre (58) died as a result of either a heart attack or stroke, while driving in Missisippi.

Pertaining to football, Brett has now had all afternoon and all night with this on his mind, and the Pack plays tomorrow night, in a really big game vs the Raiders.

Anyway, just figured we'd lay off the Beth bashing for atleast one week, and see if he will persevere.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Matt on December 22, 2003, 10:34 PM
. . .see if he will persevere.

Uh, "persevere"?  I'll say.

Anyone else watching this game tonight?

Favre - 15/18 completions/attempts, 311 yards, 4 TDs, and that's just in the first half.

Wow.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 22, 2003, 10:49 PM
Yeah what a game, I knew this would happen.  As much as I like to make fun of the dude, he is a HELL of a player.  If he didn't play for the team I hate the most in the world I would actually be a fan of his.  Tonight I will be...tomorrow...Go Broncos!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 28, 2003, 07:13 PM
Wait until you see the end of the Vikes-Cards game...I've never come that close to throwing my TV out the window... :-X
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on December 28, 2003, 07:21 PM
I don't know how to say this without hurting Viking fans feelings, but how the **** do you lose to the CARDINALS, in a game where you're pitted against the new laughing stock of the NFL, and your season, and a title, are riding on it.

Factually, choking like this is nothing new to them, and after losing to so many mediocre teams this year, it shouldn't be a surpise, but I thought they'd carry a little momentum into this week.

Well, welcome to the offseason, a little early I guess.

Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on December 28, 2003, 09:51 PM
Wait until you see the end of the Vikes-Cards game...I've never come that close to throwing my TV out the window... :-X

 :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 28, 2003, 09:59 PM
I had to talk several friends out of the garage where the car was running after todays Vikings game.  It was another shot to the heart, one of oh so many over the past 29 years of my life :(  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(

Way to lose to the Chargers, Raiders and Cardinals who had a combined win total of 11...

Cue Jim Mora from a year ago as well...PLAYOFFS????  PLAYOFFS???????

(http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/nfl/2001/0904/photo/s_mora_i.jpg)

NFC

#6 Dallas Cowboys at #3 Carolina Panthers
#5 Seattle Seahawks at #4 Green Bay Packers
#2 Saint Louis Rams
#1 Philadelphia Eagles

AFC

#6 Denver Broncos vs #3 Indianapolis Colts
#5 Tennessee Titans vs #4 Baltimore Ravens
#2 Kansas City Chiefs
#1 New England Patriots

I'll be rooting for the Seahawks in Round 1 :D
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on December 29, 2003, 07:35 AM
Cowboys winning the division?  Maybe next year when you get a better offense.  Look for a one and out, as I don't think Carolina will be losing to them twice in one season.

Pats steamrolled the hapless Bills and now have the #1 seed in the AFC and a 12 game winning streak  :o  Those don't mean **** if they choke in the playoffs.

After the Eagles manhandled the Skins, I was content with the #2 seed.  But the Rams gave them a late Christmas present and lost to the Lions to give the Eagles the #1 seed.  I hope a Nor'easter comes roaring through Philly during the NFC Championship game.

I'm still hoping for a Pats-Eagles Super Bowl.

Go Patriots!!

Go Eagles!!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on December 29, 2003, 09:47 AM
Bring on the Seahawks ;)

  Packers NFC North Champs once again

What a weekend. Sorry Scott, but as a Pack fan watching the 49ers loose, then Dallas loose, and the Vikes leading late I thought we were done. I know the Pack got a gift but I'll take it
 
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 29, 2003, 12:10 PM
I forgot the Vikes also lost to the Giants, the four teams picking #1-4, they beat the Vikings this year.  That is horsecrap

The Vikings led the North from the end of Week 1 until 4 seconds left in week 17...more horsecrap.

Not sure who I'll root for in the playoffs, for sure whoever plays the Packers (Go Seahawks this week!)...the Pats and Chiefs were both huge for me in my other non-JD FF league so I'll be pulling for both of them.  I'd like to see the Colts win it all too, always liked them

NFC wise I have had a thing for the Rams forever but I also will be pulling for the Eagles and McNabb...hard to say...I just hope the Pack loses and loses BIG :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on December 29, 2003, 02:54 PM
Interesting stat there Scott.  Clearly the Vikes play to the level of their competition and cannot bring themselves above it.  Not a good sign for team leaders.  Good teams should walk all over the easy teams and rise up to beat the good ones.  

Still crying over that game :(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on December 29, 2003, 03:20 PM
Patty sends along her kindest regards and best wishes to a couple of the fellas in this thread...   ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 29, 2003, 03:21 PM
You can tell her to blow it out her ear :P  Go Seahwaks!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on December 29, 2003, 03:27 PM
Patty sends along her kindest regards and best wishes to a couple of the fellas in this thread...   ;)

I presume she opened her Christmas gifts.  What with the trilogo stuff and all, I can't imagine she had any other choice :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on December 29, 2003, 03:31 PM
Well I appreciate Patty's  best wishes ;)
GO PACK. ;D

 
 

 
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on December 29, 2003, 03:35 PM
I hate to admit it, but if the Pack happen to win the Superbowl, I could profit from it.  Have a nice white, minty Beth Favre NFL7 McFarlane figure sitting under my desk.  Wonder how quick I could have it sell on ebay the day after? :P
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Paul on December 29, 2003, 07:21 PM
Ugh, my Kingdom for a Runningback and a QB that throws to a receiver or LEADS a receiver, not behind a receiver.

Step 1 is complete, the Cowboys are back in the playoffs.  Now if we can get Troy Hambrick to go play for Arizona, we might be able to get a decent RB, somebody who can take 4 steps forward before falling down, as oppossed to T Ham's "3 step Drop"...

A positive year to be sure no matter what happens Saturday.  My prediction, the Cowboys either win or get shutout...no middle of the road.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jadesfire on December 29, 2003, 08:08 PM
My God, why did St Louis even show up in Detroit??   The defense was pathetic and I'm not sure which quarterback to root for anymore.  Home field advantage...and they blow it.  

I like Mariucci and all (home boy) and would like to see Detroit pull themselves out of the gutter and bring back some glory to the Lions organization but couldn't they have saved this one-time performance for next year?  All it did was screw up their draft pick.  Oh well...at least the Rams are in the playoffs (sorry Scott, I was really rooting for the Vikes, just to annoy the family Packer fans). :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on December 29, 2003, 09:54 PM
This latest debacle for me ranks #4 on dissapointing Vikings moments

#7 Drafting Darrin Nelson instead of Marcus Allen in the draft...Marcus Allen won a Super Bowl for the Raiders, he's in the Hall of Fame, see #7 for the best Darrin Nelson Moment.

#6 The Packers winning the Super Bowl in 1997.  You could always fall back on the fact that the Packers had SUCKED from about 1970 until that moment when they whalloped the Patriots.  The Vikes at least have been competitive for most of my life with only 3 or 4 bad years thrown in...that was a horrible time  :'(

#5 The aforementioned Herschel Walker trade...like I said he was OK here but there was so much more expected.  Then looking at what Dallas got...3 times in the 90's it could have been Purple and Gold up there instead of the Cowboys :'( :'(

#4  Sunday's implosion in Arizona...made worse by the fact that the Packers are going to the playoffs instead of the Vikes.  :'( :'( :'(

#3 Darrin Nelson drops a goal line pass against Washington in 1987 in the NFC Championship.  It would have given them the lead...he had it in his hands...he dropped it.  Washington went on to kill the Broncos in the Super Bowl.  Years later on local talk shows people would call in and ask him why he dropped it...funny stuff.    Wasn't at the time though  :'( :'( :'( :'(

#2  2000 NFC Championship.  After blowing Homefield advantage by losing to some horrible teams in December, the Vikes were absolutely pummeled by the Giants, 41-0.  They fumbled the opening kickoff and NY scored like 4 times in 12 minutes.  It brought back horrible memories of what might have been... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

#1 1998 - Gary Anderson missed his only kick of the year in the 4th Quarter in the NFC Championship.  The Vikes blow a big lead against a good Falcons team and don't go to the Super Bowl.  This was the 15-1 team, the highest scoring team in NFL history, the team with a pretty decent defense, that was the chance...that was the year.  They choked, I cried.  It was horrible :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

#1a I can't remember but it's a large part of Vikings lore...supposedly the Vikings best ever team was beaten by the Cowboys in the NFC Championship back in the 70's  The famous Hail Mary...Staubach to Pearson play where Pearson clearly pushes off from the defender and is not called.  I guess the game was full of horrible reffing that went against the Purple.  Luckily I was not alive or cannot remember the 4 Super Bowl losses of 70's or that would be up there...Brent maybe you could recollect those :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on December 29, 2003, 11:27 PM
Farging Bastage :-*

But sadly, yeah, I do (vaguely) remember the games.  That was probably in my peak sporting hysteria, as a kid.  My teams of the time were (and still are) the Celtics, Twins and Vikings from the US side of things.  Had the T'wolves been around, the proximity thing would have sealed that.  For some reason though, the Lakers have always repulsed me :-*  Mikan was cool though.  

Anyhoo, I can't provide you with any details other than that it was extremely painful for myself and my dad (also a Vikings fan) to watch.  

My only relief is that I am not a Bills fan, though I am eternally greatful to them.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: FX-7 on December 31, 2003, 11:34 AM
GO BRONCOS!  We should beat the Colts again this weekend and then we'll play the Patriots.  That would be a tough one but I think with a healthy Portis we can do it!!!  BRONCOS!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Paul on January 4, 2004, 09:44 AM
OUCH.

I expected more from the Cowboy Defense last night. I got about what I expected from the Quarterback and Falldown back.

I'm not sure what is worse, losing the first round or not having a first round to play in at all. Perhaps the Viking fans can tell us what it was like not to have a team to watch this weekend, or the Bucs fans, Dolphin Fans or Raider Fans(well I guess that would be what its like to not have a team to watch all season)

Dallas needs either a good smart Quarterback OR a new group of receivers that can catch balls that are thrown above and behind them EVERY time.

I assume with my luck that the Colts and Packers will win today, since that will be who I am rooting against.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 4, 2004, 05:00 PM
Looks like someone needs to buy Hasselbald a muzzle, and an ego check. Jinxer.  :P
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jokabofe on January 4, 2004, 06:20 PM
yeah, looks like he was just a tad too overconfident... but in reality, i can't blame him. he played a great game. now, if only we had a receiver that could, uhm... maybe - just maybe - catch a ball now and then? 8 dropped passes. 8. that's ridiculous. in high school, if we dropped 8 passes in a game we would be doing laps all week. and this is supposed to be professional level?

the way i look at it, the packers didn't beat the seahawks today, the seahawks beat the seahawks. with those kind of assinine players dropping all those passes, and play calling - screen pass on 3rd and 28 from your own 13 yard line? wtf?

in the end, they lost, and there's nothing you can do about it. but at least they didn't get blown out like the cowboys did, and like the broncos are getting now.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 5, 2004, 12:44 AM
I am so glad the Broncos got smoked today.  That whole resting people to stay fresh for the playoffs is absolute BS and it bit the Broncos and Shanahan in the behind.  If they would have actually tried last week it might have been Minnesota going to Philly instead of the Cheese.  I'll have to check my bracket tomorrow to see how I did but I believe I went 4 for 4 this weekend
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: FX-7 on January 5, 2004, 02:35 PM
Damn the Broncos looked horrible!  I think you are right OCB on the whole resting of the guys...they looked rusty and not sharp at all.  Oh well, next year, there is always next year.  Plummer was decent but injury prone, Portis is a stud, D is OK, we should be back.  We'll miss sharpe though if he retires
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on January 7, 2004, 09:18 AM
Joe Gibbs returns to the Redskins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1702079)

I'm not a Redskins fan by any stretch of the imagination, but this is huge news and one that came out of left field.  I guess he wants to prove he can still get it done like Vermeil and Parcells.  I hope he can co-exist with that douche bag Synder.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on January 8, 2004, 12:46 AM
So far, I'm 4 for 4 in getting my desired outcomes in the playoffs.  Especially excited that Beth, err (damn you Brent and Scott!)... Brett and the Pack are moving on!  That was an amazing game!

Condolences Dave...

But I'll finally have one of my two teams in action this weekend - the Rams, so the fun's really going to start! (hopefully)  They better play well, since my other team just went 4-12, one season after being in the Super Bowl.  Damned idiots.   >:(  At least Callahan finally got canned...  I'm a little pissed that Denny Green, who was strongly rumored to be next up for the Silver and Black, whimped out (or was just smart) and went to the Cardinals today instead.   ::)

Regardless, it's gonna be another great weekend of football...  Go Rams, Titans, Colts, and Pack!   8)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 8, 2004, 12:49 AM
I went 4 for 4 in the Office Pool too, I have Pats and Chiefs, Rams and Eagles this week, looks like 8 for 8

I hope to high hell the Pack get slaughtered.  And I also hope the Jamacians call the Packers Defense and say that they aren't going to allow them to use that hairstyle anymore ::)

I'm also wondering how Beth can play a whole year with a broken thumb...hmmm

(http://fldetox.com/images/pillsnew.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on January 8, 2004, 07:06 AM
I went 4 for 4 in the Office Pool too, I have Pats and Chiefs, Rams and Eagles this week, looks like 8 for 8

I hope to high hell the Pack get slaughtered.  And I also hope the Jamacians call the Packers Defense and say that they aren't going to allow them to use that hairstyle anymore ::)


My picks this weekend are the same as yours, Scott - although I would love to see the Rams lose.  The Colts, I think, used all their energy last week against the Broncos.  One things for sure in that game though - it will be a shootout.  The Pats-Titans game will be the game of the weekend, I believe.  Low scoring, defensive battle, close game.  I would have hoped for snow, ala the "tuck" game versus the Raiders, but its too damn cold (single digits and below) starting today and not letting up until at least Sunday.  I too hope for a blowout win for the Eagles, but a win will do just fine.

As for the dreads, didn't the league recently say that they're part of the uniform and can be used to tackle?  That's why Ricky Williams cut his shorter.  If enough players get their hair ripped out, then maybe they'll cut their hair themselves.  I hate to see it become mandatory as enough people already complain this is the "No Fun League"  ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on January 8, 2004, 09:19 AM
 Well I am looking forward to the weekends games as well, but I see the picks slightly differnt that some.
 First.  Rams over Carolina
 Pack over the Eagles and not just becasue I am a Pack fan and live in GB.
 Indy wins
 Pats win

 And Scott if the Pack gets blown out ( 14 or more) I will send you a special belated Bday present.
 
 And the dreads are not anything more than Moss's stupid afro sticking out of his helmet the last few weeks;)   But I agree if they are there and you have to grab them to tackle go for it.  
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on January 8, 2004, 12:45 PM
I've got a white McFarlane NFL7 Favre that says the pack are going to win.  Bring daddy some paypal.  

I've also got a white NFL4 McFarlane Peyton Manning that I someday hope to get full retail value for, ergo the Colts will win. ::)

Patriots because they should.  

I'll take Carolina for a dark horse.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on January 8, 2004, 09:13 PM
Yeah baby!! Panthers all the WAY!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 10, 2004, 08:17 PM
Wow what a game in the Rams Panthers...I know for sure that Mike Martz IS an idiot
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 10, 2004, 08:26 PM
Carolina Wins!  Great game another of many great games this year
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 10, 2004, 08:34 PM
One of the best games I have ever seen. My heart is still racing. They rescheduled the Pep Rally yesterday for next Saturday, and said it was on if we won or lost.

Guess it will be all the more sweeter.  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Famine on January 10, 2004, 08:38 PM
That was truly a great game.

I usualy only watch the games right before the bowl, because I get rowdy and yell and such (and my grandparents dont appreciate the noise).

Immagine how the kickers felt after they botched those two kicks!:o :-X

Kevin
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 10, 2004, 09:06 PM
Not that well played of a game so I'm not calling it the best game I have ever seen but it was full of drama...the Colts-Bucs game earlier this year was a better game this year.  The year the Bills Beeeotched the Oilers by coming back down 35 was a better Playoff game or when Saint Louis won the Super Bowl...it was a great game no doubt

Mike Martz...you have 30 seconds left in regulation and a time out and 1st down.  You choose to run out the clock (allowing no time to try a rekick on a botched snap mind you)...you are an Complete Idiot, your team continues to lose big games because of that fact

I also question as I have all year why Bulger remained the QB.  I can bet Warner would have been just as good if not better...he's won a Ring, he's a 2 time MVP.  Martz treated him like crap, again I'm glad you got beat.

Go PHILLY
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on January 10, 2004, 09:37 PM
I am pissed (and rather hammered).  Mike Martz should be coaching 12 year-old girl's softball.  What a total girl.  That was the sorriest, most embarrassing bull$hit I've ever seen from a professional coach in any league.  I'm a Rams fan, but after that play (or lack thereof), I was pretty much rooting against them.  They didn't deserve to win after that sissy ass beeatch play calling.  1st and 10 at around the 15 with 30 seconds remaining, and that Sally runs out the clock to kick a game tying field goal?!?   >:(   >:(   >:(

I hope that dumb ho Frontiere fires his stupid ass tomorrow, if not tonight.  He has no place in the NFL.

Absolutely amazing game to watch though, I'll admit.  The fourth quarter and OT were absolute football drama at it's finest.  Well, at least we won't have a conflict of interest in our household next weekend with the Rams and Packers facing off now...

Go Packers!!!  They should have a much better shot tomorrow, since they're actually coached by a man.   ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 11, 2004, 12:26 AM
Another genius move...the last three playoff games I've seen the Rams tank in, Faulk is basically nowhere to be found.  Martz needs to go, agreed, he's a complete moron
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 11, 2004, 01:12 AM
Well, in all the post game shows he's been saying that he basically didn't have confidence in his quarterback, which is why he didn't just "go for it".

 Just another reason why I said PLAY KURT WARNER! Would it have really hurt him, just to let him play a series and see if he'd be any more competant that Bulger? Probably not.

With 30 seconds left, with great field position in Panthers territory, you play for what you HOPE is a certain overtime period? He had 2 options, which were totally obvious.
 
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 11, 2004, 01:19 AM
Yeah Cory, the more I think about it, the madder I get and I'm not even a Rams fan.  That being said, I like Warner (because of his hot wife) and think he got the royal shaft this year.  I like the Rams too, its too bad that dolt lost them a Super Bowl in 2001 and has blown great chances in '02 and now '03.  After watching them destroy the Packers and Vikings at home earlier this year...man they had it made
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on January 11, 2004, 01:49 AM
y'all must be Rams fans, sorry but I have to cheer for my Panthers in their win. It was ugly, it was filled with errors and it took (almost) 2 overtimes for the Cats to scratch the lambs.
Hmm what's that sound I hear?...
it's the Silence of the Rams!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 11, 2004, 01:52 AM
JediMAC is, I just sort of glommed on to them back in their first Super Bowl run.  I do think the Panthers have a shot to go to the Super Bowl.

Cory...in all honesty.  I realize you live near Charlotte and all but how in good faith can you root for both the Panthers and the Bucs???  I'm not dogging you, just curious, its not a heated rivalry due to the realignment and all and since Carolina only has 10 years of history but it got pretty nasty this year...
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Morgbug on January 11, 2004, 01:57 AM
Two down, two to go :-*

Did I mention I have a couple of Peppers regs and a variant that need a home ;D

Matt.  Tsk, tsk.  And they call me Mr. Potty Mouth?  For shame, you drunken lout. :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 11, 2004, 10:39 AM
Alison questioned my loyalty as well. How I explained/justified it is like this.

I was born and raised in Charlotte, but was a Dolphins fan until Marino retired. Tampa Bay was the next logical team to root for, so I have been since about 1999. I remained a Bucs fan even when Charlotte got a team.

So, when they play each other, I still bleed red and silver, but when Carolina makes it farther, they get my support by default. Plus I am a fan of defensive football, period.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jadesfire on January 11, 2004, 12:04 PM

I hope that dumb ho Frontiere fires his stupid ass tomorrow, if not tonight.  He has no place in the NFL.


Amen...

I was still so ticked off last night, I couldn't bear to comment (or read about) the pathetic coaching staff of the Rams.  What the hell was he thinking??????????
The Lions loss was tough enough but this was just mind boggling.  Now I get to sit through thr frickin' Packer game today with a bunch of cheese heads who are still gloating over Martz's stupidity.
Go Philly!!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on January 11, 2004, 02:09 PM
Aw, crap...  When I wrote that in all my disgust and anger, and used that one particular word in there - I actually thought to myself briefly that I hope Beth doesn't see that...   :-[  Really sorry if that offended you, or any of the other ladies here.  Not a word I usually use, but considering the state I was in at the time, and my long time hatred for Frontiere for moving my football team out of state, it just kinda slipped out...  Anyway, sorry!   :-*

Matt.  Tsk, tsk.  And they call me Mr. Potty Mouth?  For shame, you drunken lout. :-*

Yeah, my bad.

Forgot that Beth was a football fan.  Stupid me!   :P
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on January 11, 2004, 03:14 PM
lol I was rooting against the Rams big time last night. I absolutely despise the Rams. Also hate the Packers. Personally, I hope it comes down to the Panthers and Eagles. I like them both, but I think I'd prefer an Eagle win.

Damn Titans and their loosing to the Patriots! Dont get me wrong, I hate the Titans wholeheartadly, but the mere thought of the Patriots makes me sick. I'm a true blue Colts fan, and if they beat KC today, I was hoping they'd get to play the Titans instead of the Pats. The Colts never beat the Pats, especially road games. I want the Colts to go to the Superbowl, but moreover, I DONT want the Pats to go. I wish it could have been the Colts and KC in the AFC championship game, instead of the Pats and whoever wins today.

However, if the Colts make it to the Superbowl, we're going out and getting a nice huge widescreen TV :) Even more reason to root for the Colts lol
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on January 11, 2004, 04:07 PM
Wohooooooo! One more game! Colts and Patriots, 3:00 Sunday. That will be a tense game.

I'd love to see the Colts win the Superbowl, but I will be so elated if they get there, that everything else just wont matter...
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 11, 2004, 04:11 PM
Agreed, KC D was exposed around Week 10, their O and ST are amazing...ugh what happened.  They were the Vikings who got a few breaks and made the playoffs in my eyes.  Tough one in the AFC, I sorta like both teams...hmmm...
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on January 11, 2004, 04:53 PM
Re: Rams, let's not forget that they had 2:39 on the clock and ran four plays (and not one of the them was towards the end zone).  Personally, I loathe the Rams (including Warner and his dog of a wife) and was laughing when they f***ed up and pissed when they looked like they were going to win.  One more for the record:  [Nelson]Ha-Ha[/Nelson]

Great defensive battle today between the Colts and Chiefs ::)  They say defenses win championships.  Well, with that showing, neither team deserves to win.

I'm sick and tired of this Packers destiny bull****.  I have nothing against Favre personally (kind of like him in fact) and I'm sorry his dad died, but its the same as the Curse of the Bambino, or the Curse of the Goat.  A bunch of hooey.  What about the Eagles?  An 0-2 start, the stuff with the numbnuts Limbaugh and being decimated by injuries.  They have a huge chip on their shoulders.  The Packers may have the better stats, but I think the Eagles are the better team, ala the Pats against the Rams two years ago.  

And now on to the Pats - its not always pretty, but they just keep winning.  They're probably sore as hell today as are the Titans.  Great smash mouth football.  

Sure the Colts can score points, but Belicheck has always had Manning's number, confusing him with different blitz packages and formations.  I don't expect a blow out either way and it should be a hell of a game.

Go Eagles!!

Go Pats!!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on January 11, 2004, 06:49 PM
I love the Colts, but I'm not deluded. They are going to need to beef up their D bigtime for the Pats game.

The bad news about today's Chiefs/Colts game? The Colts defense didnt show up to the game. The good news? Neither did the Chiefs defense... The Colts have had some problems with their defense all year, and are depending way to heavily on Peyton and his receiving corps.

It will be one hell of a game next week, here's hoping the Colts can pull it off and go to their first Superbowl in Indy history!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 11, 2004, 07:30 PM
I was going to correct you there but you're right, Colts have won a Super Bowl, but that was in the Baltimore days.  My dad still will call them Baltimore
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 11, 2004, 08:17 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ghost of Irv Favre must not have blown hard enough on that pass Beth...the team of destiny now gets to sit on the couch with the rest of the NFC.  Nice pass again Beth

Send my condolences to the Wife Matt, tell her this will be last postseason for awhile for the Cheese...Purple and Gold in 2004 baby!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 11, 2004, 09:02 PM
Now that it's all set up, I feel safe in saying that the Panthers will have an easier time with the Eagles. Atleast easier than last time.

Winning 5 in a row, being at full strength, and having an even more potent defense and stronger, more learned offense, I think some retribution is forthcoming.

Packers showed that the Eagles run defense can be diminished after running the ball just a few times, and with Stephen Davis or DeShaun Foster one at HB, the running game is just as safe a bet as their passing game.

I guarantee two things. John Kasay will be on point with his field goals this time, and Jake Delhomme won't throw any errant, Hail Maries a la Brett Favre out of despiration.

So, while he may be headed to the off season early, he'll have a shiny, new key to the city of Philadelphia waiting for him come Monday.   :-*

Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on January 11, 2004, 09:07 PM
I'm glad to see it come down to the Eagles and Panthers, they're both good teams.

That said though, I think the Superbowl is going to be an AFC victory.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on January 11, 2004, 10:26 PM
Patty's still in mourning, and I'm more than pissed myself...  I don't know what what was worse - Favre's pass, or Martz's playcalling.  Both make me sick.  Just a pathetic way to end such an amazing game today.  I can't even imagine what was going through Brett's head on that play.

Glad to see Indy advance though, as I've always liked their team (since the early 90's).  Since I only went 1 - 3 with my hopeful picks this week, I've got to pray Indy goes all the way now.  I'd like to see them win, and would absolutely loathe seeing the Pats or Eagles win.  Pretty indifferent with the Panthers.  They're about as nameless and uninteresting as the Florida Marlins were when they won the World Series a few months ago.

Definitely not my favorite year for sports...   >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: dustrho on January 11, 2004, 10:44 PM
I'm hoping the Colts end up beating the Panthers in the Super Bowl.  I don't want the Eagles in there because I can't stand them.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on January 11, 2004, 10:47 PM
If the Colts can beat the Pats, I think theyre a sure thing for winning the Super Bowl. That, and I really want a big screen tv ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 11, 2004, 10:59 PM
Quote
They're about as nameless and uninteresting as the Florida Marlins were when they won the World Series a few months ago.

Nameless and Uninteresting? Julius Peppers was the 2002 NFL Defensive Rookie of the year, on top of winning the Lombardi + Bednarik Awards while at Carolina. Stephen Davis, Kris Jenkins, Steve Smith, Mike Rucker? 2 of these guys are starting in the Pro Bowl,  and 1 reserve (Davis), BTW.

Thats actually probably to their advantage. They're underrated, and apparently they are bowling over everyone that overlooked their talent.

To go from 1-15 a full 2 years ago to 13-5, and 1 game away from the Super Bowl makes for a pretty interesting Cinderella story. To me, anyway.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on January 12, 2004, 12:04 AM
I'm glad to see it come down to the Eagles and Panthers, they're both good teams.

That said though, I think the Superbowl is going to be an AFC victory.

the only thing about that is that IF the Pack had won, they'd played in Charlotte  for the NFC and I was trying hard to find someone with ticket connections. My wife talks to a cousin who lives in charlotte and says he gets free tickets all the time; then the Eagles win so it doesn't matter.
But I gotta pull for the Panthers to win over the eagles and return to Houston (thankfully NOT playing the Texans where the panthers gave the game away)!! IT'll be Panthers vs Patriots for superbowl 38!!!
Panthers win on a kasay fg - in overtime!!! :)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 12, 2004, 12:14 AM
I'll agree with Matt, the Panthers are not sexy like the Eagles or Colts, they aren't loaded with stars, they aren't national media darlings.  But they proved something to me yesterday (besides exposing Martz for an idiot again)  They won without Davis, they won without a big time Qb and they won by shutting down the Rams with an awesome D.  Sounds much like the Ravens, Patriots and Bucs of the last 3 champs.  They have a huge shot to beat the Eagles IMO, their D is a ton better than the Rastafarian Slackers...I think Steve Smith is better than Dante Hall who is good but a ton overhyped.  I like their chances...

I'm leaning Colts just because they are hot right now but its hard not to say the Pats for the same reason listed above.  And actually, I'll be cheering for either AFC team this year since they have both won a Super Bowl.  We don't need another team getting their first ring before the Vikes :P
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 12, 2004, 12:32 AM
Just goes to show that unsung heroes can do the job just as well as roster stacked, championship mainstays.

I wasn't implying anything spiteful by what I said above, but setting NFL records by winning close games makes the Cats one of the most exciting team in the NFL to watch!

Although, when I move back in MN this September, I am hoping the Vikes have their **** together. I'll be attending as many games as possible, due to my  new found overwhelming obsession with football, and I want to enjoy the games.

They still wont be my default favorite team by way of location. Thats Alison's territory.  :P
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Reconsgt on January 12, 2004, 08:40 AM
  the Packs loss was a tough loss for me Sunday. I agree the pass was a WTF moment. There were a few of those though. 4th and 26 and they let the Eagles convert.   Now its time to root for a Colts Carolina super bowl.   GO Colts :)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on January 12, 2004, 10:15 AM
I'll take a win any way it comes, but the Pack gave that game to the Eagles.  

-Going for it on 4th down at the 1 instead of taking the sure field goal

-Not going for it on 4th and inches to seal the game.  The Pack had been running all over the Eagles all day.  I'm sure Andy Reid would have gone for it in the same situation.  You have to be aggressive in the playoffs.

-Giving up a fourth and 26th play.  Good coverage there Pack  ::)

-A Favre pass, right after a terrific stand by your defense, that my 18 month old niece could have intercepted.  Horrible.  He's been doing that his whole career and he paid the price on that one.

Sherman's play calling in the latter stage of the game almost rivals Martz's.  

I'm still sticking with my SB prediction I made late in the season - Patriots vs. Eagles.  My personal dream Super Bowl and I would be estatic with either one winning.  

Go Patriots!!

Go Eagles!!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: jadesfire on January 12, 2004, 07:25 PM
Sherman's play calling in the latter stage of the game almost rivals Martz's.  


almost...but Martz is still the King of Idiots for play calling.

Anyways....I'm looking forward to a Colts and Eagles  Superbowl but as long as my pool numbers come up, I don't really care anymore.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 16, 2004, 10:49 AM
Doesn't sound good on Davis so....

I'm going to say:

Philadelphia 24 Carolina 17
Indianapolis 31 New England 21

Unfortunately for me, I have to go out of town this weekend (flight is at 4 on Sunday) and so I'll miss both games :'(  I'm headed to Houston though, so I'll get to experience part of the hype!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 16, 2004, 05:28 PM
At 5:00 pm, NBC News 6 here in Charlotte reported that Stephen Davis DID practice today, and will now be a game time decision.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Famine on January 18, 2004, 10:43 PM
Congratulations Patriots and Carolina Panthers for making it to Superbowl XXQRZ2LL or somthing of the sort!

Now go Panthers!


Kevin
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: JediMAC on January 18, 2004, 10:52 PM
I was pissed to see the Pats advance again (sorry Mikey  ;)), but excited to see the no-namers wax the Eagles.

That home field advantage I think is what really made the difference for the Patriots.  Indy just couldn't get the high-powered offense going, and Payton struggled bad, in that weather.  I thought they had a few chances there late in the fourth quarter, but that no-call on the 4th down pass interference against the Pats' McGinnest effectively ended the game for the Colts.  That was a very poor officiating moment at a very crucial point of the game.   ::)

So count me as a HUGE Panthers fan now!  Go Panthers!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Vator on January 18, 2004, 11:10 PM
Wonderful words!'Tis good to see America come behind us underdogs!

GO CAROLINA!!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on January 18, 2004, 11:13 PM
Ugh....... Im going to burn down my house now.

It's not so much that the Colts lost, its that the Pats won. I despise the Pats. I kind of like the Panthers, just for handing the Rams their asses, but would have much rather seen the Eagles in the Superbowl. Colts vs Eagles would have been much better.

Ive lost all faith in sports.

First, the Marlins, and hell whoever the other team was (Yankees?), go to the World Series. Damnit, it should have been the Red Sox and Cubbies.

Superbowl should have been Colts and Eagles. The Panthers are just another Florida Marlins, the Pats are just another Yankees. Good teams, yes, but teams nobody gives a crap about. It's fun to see the underdog get a chance. The Colts have blown big butt pretty much ever since they arrived in Indy, but damnit, I still love em. Just like I love those Cubbies.

This year the Super Bowl will not be very super. More a mixture of trite and mundain.

I'll say this much though, if it was the Rams and the Pats, I'd probably be digging myself into a hole, and not come out until next season. If there is a team I hate almost as much as the Pats, its the Rams.

When the Bears and the Bengals play one another in the Super Bowl, and the Cubbies play anybody in the World Series, then, and only then, will my faith in professional sports be revitalized.

Until then, I guess its time to get ready for a new Firebirds season...
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 19, 2004, 12:13 AM
I still don't get where you people are pulling this Florida Marlins reference from?

I mentioned before, they aren't a bunch of no names.
Even if they are, doesn't that make it a little more interesting than all the traditional roster stacked teams in the league?

Apparently, a bunch of no names broke the Rams home winning streak, kicked Philadelhia's overrated ass 14-3, and just became the first #3 seed in NFL history to go to the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on January 19, 2004, 08:57 AM
I thought they had a few chances there late in the fourth quarter, but that no-call on the 4th down pass interference against the Pats' McGinnest effectively ended the game for the Colts.  That was a very poor officiating moment at a very crucial point of the game.   ::)


Roman Phifer, not McGinnest.  Wasn't even close to pass interference, just playing by the rules and bumping the receiver within the alloted five yard window.  The play was a timed route and bumping the receiver disrupted that timing. Even if they did get the call, the Ponies still would have lost. I thought the officiating was pretty good.  The only thing they messed up was the non delay of game against the Colts where they got three more seconds to run a play. Again, that didn't matter because Manning threw an interception a few plays later anyway.  I can guarantee the Colts haven't taken a beating like that all year and now know why the Pats are the #1 team in football.  

Congrats to the Panthers.  They played a hell of a game.  The no respect thing can go a long way, a la the Pats two years ago.  I don't think they'll win the SB, but the game won't be a blow out and I wouldn't be suprised if the Cats covered the spread (which is currently at 7, I believe).

Oh and Eagles receivers, don't change routes just because you feel like it.  Piss poor route running directly lead to two interceptions when you were driving down the field for a score.  No ifs, ands or buts, but take away those two turn overs and the outcome could have been different.  My advice for the draft - take some one whose not afraid to get hit and can actually hold on to the ball.

Go Patriots!!
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Famine on January 19, 2004, 11:07 AM
Ugh....... Im going to burn down my house now.

It's not so much that the Colts lost, its that the Pats won. I despise the Pats. I kind of like the Panthers, just for handing the Rams their asses, but would have much rather seen the Eagles in the Superbowl. Colts vs Eagles would have been much better.

Ive lost all faith in sports.

First, the Marlins, and hell whoever the other team was (Yankees?), go to the World Series. Damnit, it should have been the Red Sox and Cubbies.

Superbowl should have been Colts and Eagles. The Panthers are just another Florida Marlins, the Pats are just another Yankees. Good teams, yes, but teams nobody gives a crap about. It's fun to see the underdog get a chance. The Colts have blown big butt pretty much ever since they arrived in Indy, but damnit, I still love em. Just like I love those Cubbies.

This year the Super Bowl will not be very super. More a mixture of trite and mundain.

I'll say this much though, if it was the Rams and the Pats, I'd probably be digging myself into a hole, and not come out until next season. If there is a team I hate almost as much as the Pats, its the Rams.

When the Bears and the Bengals play one another in the Super Bowl, and the Cubbies play anybody in the World Series, then, and only then, will my faith in professional sports be revitalized.

Until then, I guess its time to get ready for a new Firebirds season...


Im sorry, whats that about no one giving a crap about the Yankees?

Come to New York or New York City durring ball season.

See who doesnt give a crap then! LOL!

Kevin
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on January 21, 2004, 03:44 PM
GO PANTHERS!!! They will win the superbowl as this year's cinderella team!!! ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 22, 2004, 01:43 PM
I think the Marlin analogy is very valid...how many Nationally Televised games did the Panthers play this year...1?  Like the Marlins they have some knowns (Pudge namely) but they have been doing it all outside the national attention.  I thought they were really overrated coming into the playoffs due to their December Slump but they have made me a believer.  Not a big enough believer to think that they will win though, Belicheck is a genius, the Pats D is better than the Panthers and so is the Pats O...I'm cheering for the Pats (and I would have cheered for the Colts too) Mainly for selfish reasons, I don't want another team to enjoy the Lombardi trophy before my team gets to...7 Points sounds about right

I was in Houston the last 3 days, the hype was just starting to gear up.  The town is a craphole but it cleans up nice...saw the Blimp going by, signs everywhere, t-shirts everywhere, I wish the game was Sunday
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on January 22, 2004, 01:56 PM
I have to reply OCB that I think the Pats are a little over rated but as any teams' fan should defend them, I still believe in the Panthers. No ONE ever considerd the Panthers to beat the lambs or the iggles but they DID! So it's no surprise no one even thinks the panthers have a chnace agaisnt the Pats. I expect a good game from both teams and think it go down to another down to the wire Cardiac Cats finish!!!
 :D
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 22, 2004, 02:38 PM
I don't think the Panthers are over rated at all, in fact I think I underrated them coming into the playoffs, I knew they would smoke the Cowboys but no way in hell did expect them to be in the SUper Bowl
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on January 22, 2004, 02:58 PM
I have to reply OCB that I think the Pats are a little over rated

-10-0 against teams with a winning record
-Beat the co-mvps not once but twice each
-Haven't lost since September
-Allowed a little over 14 pts a game (and less at home)
-10-0 at home
-They haven't trailed in a game since November 23.
-Best record in the NFL

Yeah, I can see how people think they're over-rated ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Scott on January 22, 2004, 03:00 PM
Agreed, I'll be as shocked as when the Patriots beat the Rams if the Panthers beat the Patriots, should be a good game
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Mikey D on January 22, 2004, 03:04 PM
Since I know first hand about the "underdog" and "no respect" thing and know anything can happen, I won't be shocked if the Cats win.  Disappointed, yes.  I don't think they will, but it will be a tough, hard hitting smash mouth football game, just the way I like it.  Agreed, it should be a good one.  (Unless you like the shoot out games, then it's going to suck ass)
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on January 23, 2004, 05:51 PM
I was tryin gto dis you guys, just be a fan who is THRILLED beyond belief that the Panthers are in the SB.. But I hope it is a good game and not a blow out, by either team.  IT'll be defense against defense plus maybe a turn over or two.
Title: Super Bowl parties?
Post by: Snively Bandar on January 27, 2004, 03:40 AM
So, what's everyone doing for the Super Bowl on Sunday?  My girlfriend's talking about trying to put together a little shindig at our place, but I'm not sure if she'll really have the time.  If not, I'll probably just hit the local sports bar with some buddies.

Really hoping for a Carolina Panthers win, since they're the underdogs and have never won it before.  Plus, I still think the Patriots got unfairly lucky in that Raider game a couple years ago, that led to their last championship.

Should be a great game!  I anticipate a whole lot of junk food, beer, and extra pounds coming my way this weekend.   :P
Title: Re: NFL 2003
Post by: Paul on January 27, 2004, 09:41 PM
It is going to a Mexican Food Fiesta at our house Sunday!!!  I can't wait.  What I want is one of those inflatable arm chairs.  You know the ones that will hold a normal human, not just a kids chair.  I have wanted one of those for a while.  I figure the combo of that chair and the Tex-Mex, and I can make "noises" all during a Superbowl that will probably end up 3-0 after 2 overtimes.   AND I'LL WATCH EVERY MINUTE OF IT.  Because after Sunday Night no Football till August.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Scott on January 28, 2004, 10:37 AM
My prediction New England 27 Carolina 17, their D's are even, the Special Teams are even, New England has won it before and has a better Offense...chew on that (please note that I have picked the game wrong the past 3 years :P)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: DSJ™ on January 28, 2004, 10:44 AM
My prediction, the Commercials & the Lingerie Bowl will come out winners!  :P   ;D
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on January 28, 2004, 10:44 AM
i will probably hang out at a buddies house or just my house and watch the game. Nospecial plans just celebrating the Panthers' victory.
 :)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 28, 2004, 12:57 PM
Stayin' home, probably going to have the lady make some of her chili cheese dip.

Cats 17, Pats 14. No way will it be a high scoring game, especially if they barely beat the Titans by a similar score.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Mikey D on January 28, 2004, 01:02 PM
21-15 Pats, just because I have 1 and 5 in my office squares pool and want to win some money along with a Patriots win.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on January 28, 2004, 04:51 PM
Panthers 20
Patriots 17
in a Kasay-vinaterii kick-off!
 ;)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Famine on January 28, 2004, 05:07 PM
So, were discussing Super Bowl plans now are we?

Ok, well, Clone Sargent is coming over, probobly with the ball and chain, and Will and his ball and chain might come over to watch the game.

Ive got about 500000000000 new Ramen noodle recipies to try, so god help them all.


Kevin
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Scott on January 28, 2004, 05:14 PM
As for plans...not sure, my son goes to bed at 8, game doesn't start here until 5:35 which means a 9:30ish end time.  My brother invited me over, but I might just be staying home and making a big pot of Chili!
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: FX-7 on January 29, 2004, 12:10 PM
Hmmm Patriots 20 Panthers 17, snoozer of a game I think, who the hell (besides some you it seems roots for the Panthers?  Go Broncos 2004!
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: JediMAC on January 29, 2004, 06:42 PM
You can sense a general lack of enthusiasm and interest among the media with this year's Super Bowl.  Usually in previous years, when you've got some bigger name teams, with some of the more popular (and loud) superstars on them, there's a helluva lot more coverage on the game.  Seems the entire 2 weeks is just nothing but Super Bowl overload, so that by the time you hit game day you're practically burnt out on it already.

That doesn't seem to be the case much at all this year.  I'm sure the media up in New England, and down in the Carolinas and Houston are still talking about it quite a lot, but outside of those markets, there doesn't seem to be near the attention as usual.  I bet the NFL and television executives were cringing throughout the last couple weeks of the playoffs, as the "bigger-draw" teams got their asses handed to them.

No offense to the teams and fans being represented of course, as the Pats n' Cats fully deserve their place in the limelight on Sunday.  Just not nearly as much national interest in this matchup like usual.  The game is this Sunday, right?   :-\

As for our plans, we're going to head over to our friend's house, who's throwing a party.  It'll be chips, dip, beer, yelling, commercials, etc, as usual though.  Not really too concerned with the teams or outcome, but it's still a great reason to party hard with your pals!   8)  And even though I despise the Pats, and will be rooting for the Panthers, logic says that New England kicks their ass pretty good!
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on January 29, 2004, 06:58 PM
I refuse to watch a moment of it...

Unless I hear that Carolina has managed to maintain complete control of the ball throughout the game. Scoring a touchdown on the opening kickoff, and onside kicking every score afterwards, for another touchdown. :)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Mikey D on January 30, 2004, 07:24 AM
This isn't a knock on anyone in particular, but why the hatred for the Pats?  It seems all I see on the many forums I browse is a general dislike for them.  Its not like they win every year like the Yankees.  Hell, they were one of the laughing stocks of the league for years.  They don't have a "superstar" whos runs his mouth that causes people to hate him, thus hating the team he plays for.  Their not flashy, they just get the job done.  And its not like they blow out their opponents every week.

The favorites I can understand, people always root for the underdog.  But it seems like people were this way before the playoffs even began.  

Past and present rivals fans I can also understand, but alot of the haters are fans of teams not even remotely associated with the Pats.

Again, not a knock to anyone in particular, just asking.

And Matt, no need to answer, you're a Raiders and Rams fan, so I know why you're bitter :-*
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Scott on January 30, 2004, 09:33 AM
I'm guessing because they one it once already, that's all I can think of, and like the Panthers they aren't a sexy team like the Chiefs or Colts were...people in general like Offense and Superstars both of which this team lack (to the general non-Fantasy Football fan :P)  Again, how many nationally televised games were the Pats and Cats on this year, the Pats like 4 maybe?  I think Carolina was on a Sunday Night Game if that...

Personally, I think this is the second worst Super Bowl in the last 15 years (Ravens-Giants was the worst for me), doesn't mean I won't watch and I won't cheer for the Patriots...
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on January 30, 2004, 12:46 PM
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Again, how many nationally televised games were the Pats and Cats on this year, the Pats like 4 maybe?  I think Carolina was on a Sunday Night Game if that...

I think I mentioned this before, thats not really fair, because of FOX being home to the NFL, they have to deal with regional coverage issues. Like I said, the Panthers games were usually on here in the South almost every game they played, no matter what.

Am I just one of the few people who would rather see a Cinderella team in the Super Bowl, then some roster stackers?

Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: FX-7 on January 30, 2004, 01:17 PM
I think that is fair, for me in South Dakota I only get nationally televised games, they will put on the Chiefs, broncos and Viqueens as much as possible but I never even saw Carolina play until the Playoffs, I know Peppers and the old Reskins running back and that's it.  I hate the Patriots, because any AFC team except Denver is my hate team
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Snively Bandar on January 31, 2004, 03:20 AM
Our local media has been referring to this game as the Super Bore.  I don't mind either of the teams, or have anything against them, but like what's already been mentioned elsewhere they're just not real exciting or "glamorous".   :-\

There's no big names or stories to get behind for any of these guys really.  I think Tom Brady's pretty cool, and underrated, but at the same time he's a little like Tim Duncan in the NBA.  Just too soft spoken and reserved.

Well, I'll be looking forward to the commercials at least!  I'll be rooting for Carolina too, just because they're the underdogs and New England's already won one.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Paul on January 31, 2004, 09:02 AM
but why the hatred for the Pats?  

  Their not flashy, they just get the job done.  

I think that answers it for most people.

I think it also might be that the Pats fans are more vocal and have been about the team and you how people in forums like to be contrary.

I do have a question though for Mikey D.  I have been so busy this week the only thing I have seen about the whole Bowl is some BS coverage of the teams eating or parties or something...so here is my question:

Is Bruschi gonna play? I haven't heard a word about THE GAME and it isn't on the front page of ESPN or anything.

Also, is Kliff Kingsbury healed up too?  I mean just in case something happens to Brady?  I'd like the Pats to win if it meant he got a ring.

As of right now, I am still going to root for the Panthers though.  Being a Dallas fan, I have to root for the NFC.  Unless Denver or the Texans were in it, they are my AFC teams.

Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on January 31, 2004, 04:21 PM
Hey panther fan here again, I'm getting more psyched as the day goes on. Got a party to go to tomorrow so I'll be with some fans to watch the game.
I'm not arrogant enough to claim outright that the Panthers will win, cause relaly, no one knows until it's over. But I'm rooting big time for the Panthers.
And I have a friendly request to the mods, I have worked my photoshop magic on a cool pic for the Panthers. So IF they win, would you guys humor me and what other Panthers' fans are here by posting my custom pic? I can email it IF you want.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Vator on January 31, 2004, 05:45 PM
Cat Scratch Fever,baby!!! Go Panthers!!!


Funny fact:my current S.Studies teacher(whom I dispise)was Stephen Davis's teacher!Now hows that for close to home? :D


[size=12]GO PANTHERS! THE SPIRIT OF THE CAROLINAS IS WITH YOU!WOOOOOOOOOO![/size]
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Famine on February 1, 2004, 01:47 PM
Its not like they win every year like the Yankees.

Yes, here we are. Lets knock the Yanks because they win alot.


Woo.


:-*

Kevin
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Vator on February 1, 2004, 09:13 PM
C'mon,pull it through Carolina.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Famine on February 1, 2004, 10:31 PM
Patriots win it.


Kevin
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Vator on February 1, 2004, 10:38 PM
A good effort.I hate the Panther haters on RS though.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Morgbug on February 1, 2004, 10:40 PM
Entertaining game.  Sad to see someone lose that.  

Certainly no room for arrogance with that win though.  The Panthers showed up and played.  The Pats simply won.  

Most enjoyable.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Vator on February 1, 2004, 11:31 PM
Umhum.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: dustrho on February 1, 2004, 11:39 PM
Anyone here happen to catch what happened during the halftime show?  I saw it and had thought it must have been some kind of joke, but it was real!  Read about it here (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-superbowl-jackson&prov=ap&type=lgns).
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: JediMAC on February 2, 2004, 03:39 AM
Strange game, but very exciting.  First quarter and a half, along with the third quarter, was a total snooze fest.  But the second half of the second quarter, and the fourth quarter, was very exciting!  I didn't think Carolina had a shot.  Even when they got close, as well as when they took the lead, it just seemed like there was no doubt that New England was still going to pull it out.  But Carolina sure fought tough and made it exciting!

Had it not been for that complete dumbass Kasey kicking it off out of bounds, it probably would've been the first Super Bowl ever to go into overtime.  That would've been awesome.  But no, more heroics for Vinitari again...   :-\

The Patriots were the better team though.  They deserved it, and they earned it.  I'm kinda glad for Tom Brady, 'cause I think he's a real down to earth, cool guy.  Glad New England earned this one on their own, and there's no asterisk attached to it, like the time they actually lost to the Raiders in the Snow Bowl, but still managed to advance to face the Rams in the Super Bowl two years ago.  That's really the only thing I'm bitter about with the Pats.  Other than that bogus win, I actually kinda like these scrappy bunch of relatively anonymous guys who just play great team ball.

I still would've rather seen the Panthers win it, but after New England's amazing run this year, they really did deserve it.  Just not the first one two years ago...   ;)

As for the half time show, I thought my eyes were deceiving me there, and that it couldn't possibly be Janet's boob I saw, but alas - it indeed was!   8)  Didn't bother me any, but apparently everyone's in an uproar over it now, and it was supposedly not supposed to be part of the act.  Even Timberlake said it was a costuming malfunction.  That's total B.S.  Why the hell was she wearing the pasty on her nip then?!?  The damage control ain't happenin'.  They went for the shock value, and now they're getting reamed for it.  Oh well...  I at least enjoyed it!   :)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Mikey D on February 2, 2004, 07:20 AM
(http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nfl/2004/0201/photo/nfl12.jpg)

For a supposed boring game, that turned out to one of the most enjoyable games I've seen in a while.  Both heart wrenching followed by euphoria.  But the boys in blue got it done and now its time to celebrate.

It had everything one could ask for.  Great D in the first half followed by a shoot out in the second half.  I give credit to the Panthers, they played a hell of a football game and have no where to go but up.

And someone tell that fat ass Warren Sapp to keep his mouth shut next time.  I wouild say an O line that doesn't give up a sack in 48 pass attempts against the supposed "best D line" in football is pretty damn good.

I'll see the rest of the Pats fans tomorrow at the victory celebration.  Rain, snow or freezing cold, I'll be there.  Can't wait.

New England Patriots
Super Bowl XXXVIII Champions
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Paul on February 2, 2004, 09:27 AM
Vinaterri almost became the Steve Christie of new Century...

Congrats to the Pats and their fans (except of course the ones who thought the best way to celebrate was turn over cars, start fires and back over pedestrians)

Be careful when you go to the Celebration Mikey D. ;)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Mikey D on February 2, 2004, 09:40 AM
Vinaterri almost became the Steve Christie of new Century...

Congrats to the Pats and their fans (except of course the ones who thought the best way to celebrate was turn over cars, start fires and back over pedestrians)

Be careful when you go to the Celebration Mikey D. ;)

Yeah, I don't get the morons who do stuff like that.  Don't get me wrong, I'm all for celebrating, but do it in a civilized manner.  I hate to see what happens when and if the Red Sox finally win the World Series.

I expect no problems tomorrow.  Although you always get a few ass holes, most fans just want to congratulate their team on a job well done.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on February 2, 2004, 09:50 AM
Had it not been for that complete dumbass Kasey kicking it off out of bounds, it probably would've been the first Super Bowl ever to go into overtime.  

That's a little harsh. Based on the games averages, the Patriots would have gotten the ball at the 30 as it is, and driven down the field, regardless. In that case, the Patriots probably could have won it earlier if Vinatieri hadn't botched his first 2 seemingly automatic field goals.


Good game, all around.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Brian on February 2, 2004, 10:14 AM
That turned out to be a fantastic Super Bowl I thought.  This was a year where I didn't really care who won, I don't have anything against either team, but for some reason found myself going for the Patriots throughout.  I wouldn't have been upset if Carolina would have won either though.  It was funny, during the third quarter I told my wife "I bet you anything that the Pats will win this on a Viniteri field goal, since he missed his first two...it will be a feel good story" :P.  Great game though, quite entertaining I thought...especially the second half.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: JediMAC on February 2, 2004, 12:34 PM
That's a little harsh. Based on the games averages, the Patriots would have gotten the ball at the 30 as it is, and driven down the field, regardless.

Well, after having just tied the game up, with barely over a minute left on the clock, the LAST thing you would ever want to do in that situation is just hand the ball over to the Patriots all the way at the 40, and with NO TIME run off the clock.  I say that one single play right there singlehandedly cost them the game.

Sure, the Pats were getting pretty good field position throughout the game, but after having tied it up, with the renewed adrenaline pumping on the Special Teams (presumably), you'd hope Kasay could kick one deep like his previous four kickoffs, and pin them much further back.  Hell, if he had enough leg to just kick it into or through the endzone, that's another 20 yards they would've saved on the touchback, which would've likely saved them from the field goal.  Hell, even running 7 or so more seconds off the clock on a kick inbounds might've been enough...

Yeah, you can look at a lot of other factors throughout the course of the game, like the penalties, but when the game was on the line, Kasay turned into the ultimate goat.  I blame this one solely on him.  If not for his screw up, good chance the Pats don't get into position for the game winner, and then anything can happen in overtime.

Kasay sucks. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2003/02/02/panthers.closer.look/index.html)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Mainland05 on February 2, 2004, 01:49 PM
Indeed, it was Ms. Jackson's breast, that we got a look at. :-*
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: JediMAC on February 2, 2004, 07:11 PM
So what'd everyone think of the commercials?  I thought they were totally weak this year.  My favorite was probably the "wannabe donkey" one.  A couple other Budweiser ones were alright, but other than that, not much really jumped out at me.

I was pretty bummed that Pepsi pulled the Britney/Beyonce/Pink gladiator commercial at the very last second, especially after hearing about it all week long on TV!   >:(  Pepsi said they changed their minds, and that it didn't fit with their current marketing strategy.  WTF?!?   ::)  Apparently, they only showed it in Europe.  Anyone find a clip of it on the net yet?  If so, please share!   :-*

So what commercials struck your fancy?
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 2, 2004, 07:27 PM
I came so close to winning my work super bowl pool, if only the Panthers coach went for the win instead of the tie which lead to his team losing.  I didn't get why he decided to only kick the extra point instead of try for the two point conversion ... its the Fing Championship play like you want to win.   I guess I'm just mad at losing a chance at some money.   >:(

The commericals I wasn't paying to much attention too so I didn't see any I like.  
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Morgbug on February 2, 2004, 11:14 PM
Reason #77 Canada sucks:

Local television stations black out the commercials and insert their oh-so-cruddy comercials from local furniture stores, news reports, etc. >:(  That sucks so bad it burns.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Scott on February 3, 2004, 10:49 AM
Well, from what I remember it was a great game, I missed all of the first quarter, most of the second quarter and seemed to be dozing through the third and fourth quarters on and off.  It was a lot better than I thought it would be and a lot higher scoring.  Kudos to the Patriots and the Panthers!
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on February 3, 2004, 11:07 AM

I was pretty bummed that Pepsi pulled the Britney/Beyonce/Pink gladiator commercial at the very last second, especially after hearing about it all week long on TV!   >:(  Pepsi said they changed their minds, and that it didn't fit with their current marketing strategy.  WTF?!?   ::)  Apparently, they only showed it in Europe.

IIRC, it was never slated to air in the U.S. according to Access Hollywood, when they teased it the 2nd week of January.

Anywho, here it is. (http://www.pepsi.co.uk/music/news_details.asp?artist_id=15&id=22)

Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Mikey D on February 4, 2004, 10:27 AM
(http://cache.boston.com/sports/galleries/patriots/superbowl/victory_parade/gallery3/2.jpg)

Just a glimpse of the Pats victory parade / pep rally yesterday.  I wasn't at the above photo (the pep rally portion) but sawthe parade.  Afterwards, a bunch of us to a bar (right across the street from City Hall plaza, where the pep rally was) and watched it from there.  Nothing better than drinking beer on company time.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Morgbug on February 4, 2004, 10:53 AM
Mmm, gladiators....

Any other commercial sites?  Only about 100 or so I still need to see. ::)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Famine on February 4, 2004, 11:39 AM
The comercial that struck my fancy was the Dog Bud Lite commerical.

Makes me want to be an alchoholic so I can nurse a beer and laugh quietly to myself about the dogs.


Kevin

Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Scott on February 4, 2004, 11:41 AM
Man, seeing the celebration  makes me so wish the Vikes will win the big one some day :'(

Congrats to Carl Eller who finally made the Hall of Fame (and to Elway and Sanders too!)  Makes you feel old when players you grew up watching are being inducted to the HoF (Jim Kelly, Elway, Sanders, Montana etc)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on February 4, 2004, 09:04 PM
Well, if ya liked the game, the DVD is out 2/24, for $19 at DeepDiscountDVD.com. (http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemid=WBD034320)

It includes the entire Super Bowl, as well as a bunch of other coverage.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Mikey D on February 5, 2004, 07:04 AM

It includes the entire Super Bowl, as well as a bunch of other coverage.

You might want to read that again.  It doesn't include the entire game, just highlights.

And just in case anyone missed it, here's the kick that won it all:

(http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/SBX259020123_lower.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXVIII New England vs Carolina
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on February 5, 2004, 11:51 AM
I saw "3 hours" and Super Bowl, my bad.