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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => 30th Anniversary Collection => Topic started by: Artoo on September 30, 2006, 09:04 AM
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Hasbro has says they will let us pick the new H&V figures. Maybe because they see their choices are warming like hell.
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I saw that as well, but not really that exciting of news. I think the problem with the H & V is that we have them already. Slight repaints and minor new accessories no longer interest me. I have said it before, but my interest is not what it once was with Hasbro. I am much more excited with Sideshow. I can also admit that Hasbro has found a wayt o get my money becuase of my love for the old POTF coins, so I will be buying those, but other than that I am picking and choosing.
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Hasbro has says they will let us pick the new H&V figures. Maybe because they see their choices are warming like hell.
Just wondering but what does H&V mean?
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Heroes and Villians / greatest hits
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This could really work, especially if we all pick armybuilders. ;)
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2007 H&V:
01. VOTC Stormtrooper
02. TSC Naboo Flight Crew
03. VTSC Biker Scout
04. POTF2 DarkTrooper
05. POTC Rabe
06. OTC TIE Fighter Pilot
07. TSC Death Star Gunner
08. POTF2 SpaceTrooper
09. TSC Naboo Flight Crew
10. E1 TC-14
11. E1 R2-B1
12. ROTS Cat Miin
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Stormtrooper (VOTC re-pack)
Boba Fett (VOTC re-pack)
212th Clone Trooper (TSC re-pack)
Sandtrooper (TSC re-pack)
Commander Gree (ROTS re-pack w/ Evo Maul binoculars)
Scout Trooper (VTSC re-pack)
Death Star Gunner (TSC re-pack)
Han Solo (VOTC re-pack)
Chewbacca (VOTC re-pack)
Commander Cody (TSC re-pack)
Commander Appo w/o Pauldron ( Thanks Nivana for reminding me of the ultimate ABer!IMO)
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2007 H&V:
02. TSC Naboo Flight Crew
04. POTF2 DarkTrooper
05. POTC Rabe
08. POTF2 SpaceTrooper
09. TSC Naboo Flight Crew
10. E1 TC-14
11. E1 R2-B1
12. ROTS Cat Miin
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Those'll warm like heck.
My picks:
1.VTSC Biker Scout
2.VOTC Stormtrooper
3.RotS Clone Trooper
4.AT AT Driver
5.OTC TIE Fighter Pilot
6.VOTC Boba Fett
7.Rebel Trooper 1
8.Rebel Trooper 2
9.Shock Trooper - SITS Repack
10.OTC Han Solo ATST Driver
11.VOTC Chewbacca
12.TSC Upcoming Commander Appo (w/o Pauldron)
Those are all figures I'd like to see all at one time, but if it's in 2007, I'd like to see the Galactic Marine and Utapau Airborne Trooper added into the mix.
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Please enlighten us on how these will "warm like heck"?
04. POTF2 DarkTrooper
08. POTF2 SpaceTrooper
10. E1 TC-14
11. E1 R2-B1
These were difficult to obtain when released.
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01. VOTC Stormtrooper
02. TSC Naboo Flight Crew
03. VTSC Biker Scout
04. POTF2 DarkTrooper
05. POTC Rabe
06. OTC TIE Fighter Pilot
07. TSC Death Star Gunner
08. POTF2 SpaceTrooper
09. TSC Naboo Flight Crew
10. E1 TC-14
11. E1 R2-B1
12. ROTS Cat Miin
Please...having this figure in the basic line is pushing the envelope. Rereleasing it would be a poor choice. And rereleasing it twice in the same wave would be dreadful!
;)
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Exactly. You are almost obsessed with that Naboo guy as I am with Appo w/o the pauldron. :p
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I am with Appo w/o the pauldron. :p
Why not just take the pauldron off? Do you think taking it off will put a curse on you and your loved ones?
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Ok here are my wants in no particular order:
VOTC Stormtrooper
VOTC Boba Fett
Early Bird Chewbacca
OTC Cloud Car Pilot
VOTC Han Solo
TSC Death Star Gunner
VOTC2 Biker Scout (or the Collector Tin version with SA and flip up visor)
TSC AT AT Driver
TSC SandTrooper
Evolutions Darth Vader
Zev Senessca (Rogue 2 Snowspeeder pilot, Target Exclusive)
Luke Skywalker Dagobah (from the Dagobah Xwing at TRU)
Not sure if they could do that last 2, but I assume it is the vehicle that is exclusive to the store, not the figure.
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I am with Appo w/o the pauldron. :p
Why not just take the pauldron off? Do you think taking it off will put a curse on you and your loved ones?
Did you me say "obsessed"?
More ideas:
Clone Trooper (AOTC SA re-pack)
Clone Commander (AOTC SA re-pack)
Royal Guard (ROTS Red re-pack)
R4-P17 (ROTS re-pack)
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Here is what I'd like repacked....just for me :)
All 4 of the EE clonetroopers from their packs (clean or battle damaged)
Not sure of their names but the black and the grey colored EE astromechs
Red Royal Guard from ROTS
Paploo
Zev
VOTC Boba Fett with ESB colors
VOTC Chewbacca from the Tin set (because I'm not buyin the whole thing)
Any of the VOTC/VTSC figs of Han, Han Trench coat, Luke X-Wing, Biker Scout, Tusken Raider at the "cheaper" $7 pricepoint becuase I'm cheap.
Wedge - Exclusive for $7 - because $15 is a ripoff and a half for that. It is.
Wulf Yularen
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The Green Clone is coming out later this year.
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Yeah that is one down. I guess the blue one is coming out to but in a tin.
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He is a re-paint of the Evo one though & I want to AB but can't becasue of the price.
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Wow, Hasbro would love this if it goes forward. It would make us all complain about each others choices instead of griping about Hasbro's choices.
The problem is many of us on these boards have so many figures, that we each have a pretty narrow idea of what we would buy were it re-released. H & V and GB should be targeted primarily at those who are playing catch up. Keep some army builders in there, along with main characters that kids and grandmas will recognize.
I have some holes in my collection as well, but I don't think Hasbro rereleasing a bunch of 5- 8 year old figures is the answer. For every one that I want, 5 would come out that I wouldn't.
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This could be *KIND OF* interesting.
PREQUELS
TC-14
Darth Maul - Evolutions
R2-B1
Queen Amidala - EPISODE I Ascension Gun
Obi-Wan Kenobi - Outlander Nightclub Encounter
Anakin Skywalker - Evolutions (ROTS)
Yoda - AOTC
Count Dooku - Evolutions
Clone Trooper - AOTC (white SA)
Plo Koon - POTJ
Super Battle Droid
Darth Sidious (EPISODE I)
THE OT
Chewbacca - Early Bird set
Darth Vader - Evolutions
Stormtrooper - VOTC
Scout Trooper - VTSC
Princess Leia - POTF2 CommTech
Obi-Wan Kenobi - VOTC
Yoda - OTC
Han Solo - VOTC
Royal Guard - ROTS w/ Forcepike
Boba Fett - VOTC
R2-D2 - TSC - Hoth
C-3PO - SAGA Escape Pod
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Wedge - Exclusive for $7 - because $15 is a ripoff and a half for that. It is.
I don't know if he's even worth $7. To be honest, I think the next Wedge we should see should be a unique sculpt with chin strapped hemlet.
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....Or a VTSC Luke re-hash.
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Here's what they could do for the final "Greatest Hits" wave, with six from the PT and six from the OT:
01. Anakin Skywalker (2005 ROTS Evolutions version with Sith Eyes)
02. Obi-Wan Kenobi (2005 ROTS Pilot with Mustafar deco and Baby Luke)
03. Clone Trooper (2003 Clone Wars SA sculpt; plain white)
04. Clone Trooper (2005 ROTS 41 sculpt in Coruscant Gray deco)
05. Darth Maul (2005 TPM Evolutions with Cloth Cloak)
06. Darth Sidious (1999 Episode I Holographic version)
07. Stormtrooper (2004 VOTC)
08. Boba Fett (2004 VOTC with TESB deco)
09. Biker Scout (2006 VTSC)
10. R2-D2 (2005 R4-G9 mold with no battle damage or weird accessories)
11. Chewbacca (2005 Early Bird version with Hoth snow deco)
12. Emperor's Royal Guard (2005 ROTS version with force pike)
This way, the figures that we as collectors (okay, me) wouldn't be interested in should they be rereleased as-is, would be changed just enough and for the better to get us (me) interested. The only figures who would be straight reissues of the original figures would be the Stormtrooper, Biker Scout, AOTC Clone (all of whom would really need no deco changes) and the Holographic Sidious (which I maintain is still the best holographic figure Hasbro's ever done).
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Wedge - Exclusive for $7 - because $15 is a ripoff and a half for that. It is.
I don't know if he's even worth $7. To be honest, I think the next Wedge we should see should be a unique sculpt with chin strapped hemlet.
Oh I agree. I think they should all be no more than $5.50 tops. Unfortunately that is the cheapest at this point it seems. Well sometimes the stores are nice and bring them down to $6 now. Yippe ::)
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2007 H&V:
04. POTF2 DarkTrooper
08. POTF2 SpaceTrooper
10. E1 TC-14
11. E1 R2-B1
12. ROTS Cat Miin
MMK...not sure if you're aware of this but R2-B1 and TC-14 kind of sucked. Yea they're hard to find, but when you do get them, you'll realize they aren't anything special. Paint jobs weren't stellar and the molds have been updated, thus re-releasing those would probably end up in disaster...but at least you'd have the two hardest to find Episode 1 figures, right?
Cat Miin...? Cat Miin? Cat Miin? ???
And finally, while both troopers were hard to find, they too would look pretty ******* ridiculous on the shelves nest to and SA Clone, Jedi Master, and SBD. POTF2 is pretty old now and it's time to move away from it. Those figures need and update, not a re-release.
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If the next H and V assortment(s) are really put together by fans - without our "choices" being pre-selected by Hasbro - it could be a great thing. I know we'd all like to get more VOTC Stormtroopers, and I personally always wanted more of VOTC Han, Fett, Chewie, etc. We could pick a heck of a lineup I think, and hopefully this idea turns out as great as it could potentially be. If we have to have repack assortments, having the ability to pick them would probably be the best case scenario for collectors. I know the current HV/GB waves are really sitting around here.
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interesting i'll haft to edit my answer later.....
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Why don't the ROTS astromech droids fit into the Jedi Starfighter droid ports like they're supposed to?
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And finally, while both troopers were hard to find, they too would look pretty ******* ridiculous on the shelves nest to and SA Clone, Jedi Master, and SBD. POTF2 is pretty old now and it's time to move away from it. Those figures need and update, not a re-release.
C'mon, what kid wouldn't want one of these?
(http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/POTF2EUspacetrooperarms.jpg)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/POTF2EUdarktrooperfr.jpg)
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It's utterly disgusting that you would even hint at that. I sincerely hope you were being facetious.
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Why don't the ROTS astromech droids fit into the Jedi Starfighter droid ports like they're supposed to?
Sadly, they're not intended to. We're stuck with the pseudo-droid plugs that they gave us. Too bad really, it really effects the "playability" factor. :'(
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It's utterly disgusting that you would even hint at that. I sincerely hope you were being facetious.
If I were being sarcastic, you'd see this - ;) or this :P.
It's disgusting that you think action figures are just for collectors and that a giant stormtrooper (or one that can fly) would not appeal to a 3-5 year old boy.
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The first one would probally warm it looks like ****, the second one wouldn't.
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It's utterly disgusting that you would even hint at that. I sincerely hope you were being facetious.
If I were being sarcastic, you'd see this - ;) or this :P.
It's disgusting that you think action figures are just for collectors and that a giant stormtrooper (or one that can fly) would not appeal to a 3-5 year old boy.
I think it's digusting that in light of all the other SA troopers this year and years past you wouldn't expect a better articulated figure...it wouldn't hurt to much. I didn't so much as hint that these are only for collectors...what are you reading? I'm sure (not being that "old" myself) kids can appreciate being able to pose figures. In fact, I'm positive that it's just as inportant to them as it is to anyone else.
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It looks like Rebelscum (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Greatest_Hits_2007_Fan_Favorites_Poll_POTF2_100586.asp) has a feature up on this next "fan's choice" Greatest Hits wave, and from what I understand, might be assisting in the process. More info at the link, if interested. Sounds like a "March Madness" style poll, taking 8 figures from various modern lines and narrowing them down one by one. The first 8 they are looking for are from the POTF2 line, with other lines to come later, if I'm understanding correctly.
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Hasbro will waste time and money releasing more repack/rehashes, producing the packaging, coins, etc.; but they won't produce the ICMG? ::)
But teaming up with RS was a stroke of genius. (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/obscene/eck24.gif)
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So basically, even though Hasbro said "We don't have any plans right now for these" when asked about more Greatest Hits waves a month ago in the Q&A, now they announce they are going to foist 20-24 more repacks on us next year?
When they hinted at having a fan choice for repacks, I assumed it was going to be like the OTC where it would be ONE repack selected by the fans. But 20-24 of them? And that's above and beyond the repacks they were already going to give us in the basic 30th Anniv figure line... Ick. ::)
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Man, I can't wait to get some repackaged versions of the same exact figures I bought nine and ten years ago.
It's really hard to find things that I would want to buy again--many of the older POTF2 figures have since been upgraded, and the a lot of the ones that haven't, deserve upgrading. It's like, yeah, I'd like to see an Ackbar or Ishi Tib in the line again, but I'd rather see new versions instead, you know?
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That's exactly what I was thinking as well. There are some figures from the POTF2 line that I missed out on (2-1B, Ackbar, Rebo Band, etc. as examples) that I'd like to get, but I'm sort of waiting to see if they are re-done at this point. I'm really hoping we see a lot of VOTC figures making it out of this "tournament", if that is how things work. Otherwise, there isn't a whole lot from the past lines (especially pre POTJ lines) that many people are going to want....and even beyond that, into the newer lines, it might be tough to scrape together 20-24 of them. Repack the majority of the initial VOTC line, and vote on a few others, and call it good. Now watch the "vintage" figures be exempt from this, since they were "premium figures". ;)
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Wow, I really want the Han Solo Gunner Station figure and Darth Vader from the SOTE pack. Gimme a break.
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I'm guessing that many (if not all) of the final assortment will be made up of figures that are still in high-demand today--probably a lot of super-articulated army builders, and a lot of figures that shipped at the tail ends of their respective lines. This could be a good thing, making the hard-to-find things available again. . . provided the unwashed masses are intelligent to vote for them, of course.
The '98 EU wave, the final Episode I and POTF2 figures from 2000, the SA troopers that we've seen in the last few years. . . This might turn out to be a lot better than it seems right now, and better than the last H&V-type assorments, no doubt. . .
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My concern on this (besides the fact that it is RS....so about 60% of the Adults here can't vote cuz they have been banned) is that There should really be ZERO figures from POTF2 allowed.
I wonder if "none of the above" is even a choice. I guess it all depends on how the brackets are done. Does #1 POTF2 get to be on top of a bracket where #8 VOTC is? IS POTF2 Guaranteed a spot?
I hope the POST OTC Cantina guys get a shot, they about the only non VOTC Army builders I'd be interested in.
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While I don't give a crap about repacks, why doesn't everyone just vote for the VOTC Stormtrooper and send Hasbro a message?
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I hope the '98 DarkTrooper is one of the winners.
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While I don't give a crap about repacks, why doesn't everyone just vote for the VOTC Stormtrooper and send Hasbro a message?
I'd go for that, it's all the other folks who will get weak and vote for "Clone x" or "Pegwarming PT figure"....
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I voted Droopy McCool. He;s still pretty exotic and if he had come out with the OTC wave, I'd have picked him up again. However, being short on cash and having other debts to pay besides starting up my collecting again this season, I don't think I'd be getting him again.
The omission of the EU wave is interesting, however, it looks like someone bitched it and put Kyle Katarn on the poll anyway, who is, not surprisingly, getting some votes. ::) Let's see how that one works out.
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Wait til the Darktrooper and Spacetrooper are added.
;)
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Opening this up to the tribe there is all I needed to hear to decide how badly this is going to turn out... Get ready for Sio Bibble the Pegwarmer. :)
I'm not looking for genius or logic out of this at all I'm afraid... Some good may come of it, but a lot of bad is bound to as well I believe.
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Wow, I really want the Han Solo Gunner Station figure and Darth Vader from the SOTE pack. Gimme a break.
And Hasbro hears you my good man.
Soon to be released: The SOTE Vader with new "lighter blue" highlights on his chest buttons and Time Life Operator Han with mild dandruff feature. To be packaged in conjunction with RS and include an exclusive "Dustin Prez Yo" button.
Rehashing the ship molds, I can tolerate to a degree. Rehashing molds of horribly outdated figures to be sold at 3-4 times their current value? Maybe if we add a comic.....
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Too bad I can't vote. :(
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Can I vote for swimming Jar Jar?
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They added the TPM part. You have to be a member though. ::)
I may join on my firend's computer, just so I can vote. :-X
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Hasbro should at least 3 separate waves of Greatest Hits like
Wave 1 - Prequels (Kids buy more than OT)
Darth Sidious - Holograph
R2-B1
Pit Droids
Clone Trooper - White
Darth Maul
Battle Droid
Commander Cody
Felucia Clone Troopers (Bly's Star Corps)
Yoda
Obi-Wan Kenobi - Pilot (EP3)
Wave 2 - Original Trilogy (Biggest fan base and simpest)
Stormtrooper (VOTC)
Boba Fett (VOTC)
Han Solo (VOTC)
Luke Skywalker - X-Wing Pilot (VTSC)
Princess Leia (VOTC)
Darth Vader (Evoultions)
C-3PO (Ewok Diety)
R2-D2
Chewbacca (Early Bird)
Lando Calrissian (VOTC)
Wave 3 MIXED
Shock Trooper (SA from Senate Battle pack)
Biker Scout (VTSC)
Aayla Secura (ROTS)
Han Solo (Trenchcoat)
Tarfful
Chewbacca (VOTC)
Leia (Boushh)
that my two cents
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The entire POTF2 line should not be even allowed. When you click on the picture images it says enough.
There are a handful of EP1 figures that can still hang but just a few. If they are going to re-release figures they can at least improve the paint job, there is no reason not to. A figure from 1997 compared to now cannot hand in sculpt of deco. They will need something more.
Make re-release more worth while like:
OTC Spirit Obi Wan in Flesh color
Pit droid 3 Pack (Bonus ones new colors)
VOTC boba Fett in ESB colors
POTJ Bespin Guard with exsisting head swap
R2-B1 with new 3rd leg body
IG-88 molded in white
Its a new production run there is NO reason not to refresh them. I work at a Toy company transfer new deco files. You do not even need to have paint master done. A nice 5 veiw, you have interns hasbro use them wisley.
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I decided to go back and look at what figures I had (or didn't have, as the case may be) that were both rare enough/demanded enough to be reissued AND were sculpted to the standards of today's figures (when they're being done well, I mean). Not surprisingly, the list was pretty short:
-Everything in POTF2 was disallowed. None of that stuff holds up today, period.
-From Episode I, the only figures that I could honestly say held up well and are extremely difficult to find were the Pit Droids. And by "Pit Droids", I mean the ones released in the foreign two-packs which weren't released in America. And by that I mean the ones that I'm too cheap to pay for on the secondary market. :)
-From POTJ, nothing really stuck out as being rare to me. The only truly rare piece from the POTJ days was the MOTDS two pack, and both figures from that have been rereleased to the point of redundancy, and have also been subsequently surpassed in quality, sculpt- and articulation-wise. Sorry POTJ, you're SOL.
-Saga 2002: Ephant Mon. That's it. Everything else pretty much sucked.
-Saga 2003: McQuarrie Stormtrooper, and we're getting that anyway.
-Clone Wars 2003: SUPER ARTICULATED CLONE TROOPER...enough said.
-Saga 2004: Again, absolutely nothing. Okay, maybe the TIE Fighter Pilot if they don't intend on doing a Vintage line version.
-OTC 2004: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We're voting on repacks from a line of repacks? Oh Hasbro, what won't you resort to?
-VOTC 2004: Stormtroopers, Stormtroopers, Stormtroopers, and more Stormtroopers.
-Post-OTC 2005: Maybe the three Cantina guys, since people had trouble finding them in some areas and they *are* nice figures.
-ROTS: Threepio. I can't find him anywhere. ;D
-ROTS (seriously): A correctly painted Commander Bly. Other than that, they've reissued the line to death at this point.
-Saga 2006: Who's popular enough and hard to find enough to warrant being rereleased so soon? Scorch? Is that about it this year? I'm sure we can do a precognitive thing and put Commander Appo on the list just to be safe, but out of all the 2006 figures, it seems like Scorch is the only one not seen on a fairly regular basis at retail, even after months of being released.
-VTSC 2006: Biker Scout. Duh.
So going by that list, here's the assortment that would work, IMO:
2 x 2003 Clone Wars SA Clone Trooper
2 x 2006 VTSC Biker Scout
3 x 2000 Episode I Foreign Pit Droids (three in each bubble, three colors)
3 x 2004 VOTC Stormtrooper
1 x 2005 ROTS Correctly Painted Commander Bly
1 x 2002 Saga Ephant Mon
Or, since Bly's probably already coming, crank that Stormtrooper up to 4 per case. Seriously.
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i just want to see the VOTC stormtrooper back
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POTF 2:
Cantina Han :P Ok, no I hate POTF 2.
TPM:
TC-14
Foreign Pit Droids
POTJ:
Security Battle Droid
Saga:
Ephant Man
Tie Fighter Pilot
AT-ST Han Solo
Clone Wars:
Speeder Bike Durge
SA Clone
OTC:
Clone Commander
Clone Captain
Clone Liuetentant
VOTC:
Stormtrooper
Boba Fett
Chewbacca
Han Solo
POTC:
The three cantina guys
ROTS:
SA Clone Trooper
AT-RT Driver
Clone Commander Gree
R4-P17
TSC: (Yeah, I know...but I only want ABers)
Utapua Clone Trooper
AT-AT Driver
Sand Trooper
DS Gunner
Kashyyyk Trooper
Cases Assortment:
Part 1-
x 1 TC-14
x 1 Pit Droids
x 2 Security Battle Droid
x 1 Ephant Man
x 2 Tie Fighter Pilot
x 1 AT-ST Han Solo
Part 2-
x 2 SA Clone Trooper
x 1 Biker Durge
x 2 Clone Commander
x 2 Clone Captain
x 1 Clone Lieutentant
x 1 VOTC Han Solo
x 1 VOTC Stormtrooper
Part 3-
x 3 VOTC Stormtrooper
x 2 VOTC Boba Fett
x 1 VOTC Chewbacca
x 2 SA Clone
x 1 AT-RT Driver
x 1 R4-P17
Part 4-
x 2 Clone Commander Gree
x 2 Sandtrooper
x 2 Utapua Clone Trooper
x 2 kashyyk Trooper
x 1 AT-AT Driver
x 1 DS Gunner
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POTF2- 2x Ishi Tib
EP1- 1x Sio Bibble, 1x TC-14, 2x R2-B1, 1x Holo Sidious
POTJ- 3x Security Battle Droid, 2x Tessek, 1x Ketwol, 1x Sebulba
SAGA 03- 1x Ephant Mon
SAGA 04- 1x Rappertunie
OTC- 1x Wedge Antilles
VOTC- all! jk, if i had to choose 3 it'd be 6x stormy and 1x Boba and 1x Chewie!!!
ROTS- 1x Ki-Adi Mundi, 1x KFC Anakin
TSC- 2x Chirpa, 1x Gragra, 1x Rep Been, 6x Sandtrooper, 6x Death Star Gunner
:)
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Wait wait, am I correct in reading that Rebelscum is in charge of this?
Kevin
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Well, they are claiming to be ::). I think it boils down to suggestions. ****, we can have our own election poll and come up with figures. Whether or not they get made is something else.
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Wait til the Darktrooper and Spacetrooper are added.
;)
Those guys can do with a resculpting and/or a re-articulating.
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So, did anyone else go over to vote and then decide "Oh why the hell am I voting for freakin repacks?" I just quickly scanned over some figures and picked a few that might be worth it. But then I saw a few posts where they are REALLY arguing about them. Kind of funny.
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Looking through the report posted today over at RS about this wave, I was curious - is all this polling to find the "most wanted" figure or is it the top 8 or 12 or something to choose the whole lineup. At first it seemed like this poll would be choosing the entire wave, but the way the brackets are and everything it kind of seemed like they are just vying for #1. Are they taking the top finishers in each "category/bracket", making the top vote getters overall, or is just one figure being chosen? Hopefully the whole lineup can be chosen, because judging by the results - it will probably be mostly sought after army builders and possibly the VOTC Fett :). Some of the POTF2 figures in the finalists are ones I missed out on originally as well, but I don't hold out much hope that they'll make it through.
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Ok, some of the logic that either RS or Hasbro is using seems very dubious....
Anakin from Evo can't be in the list because he is in a collector tin...but the red astromech can even though he too is in collector tin....
VOTC Stormtrooper can't be in the line, because a Revisionist History Stormtrooper with a Jango Head (and therefore NOT the VOTC figure) is going to be in the line next year, but the Sandtrooper based on the same figure can...
Admiral Thrawn is in the 2008 line (or could be) so he can't be in the line up. And someone might have "dibbed" the Max Rebo Band guys as an exlusive so they can't be in the line (how many failed exclusives are part of this line's history)
There is more PT crap-ness in this than the rots peg-chockers that is keeping good figures off the shelves already. Unless VOTC Fett wins all 12 slots, this line is going to Suck the suck a thousand sucks.
Unless thier list is the Definate list that Hasbro is going to use it shouldn't matter(please tell me there is going to be a more scientific or fair cross section of the community than the 13 year olds and GNT of RS deciding what we as collectors are going to have to wade through to get good figures)
I lived through the vintage line and actually took advantage of the repacks, so I don't hate repacks. I understand it's purpose, I am just not sure of the execution of this part...either that or I am that out of touch with the collecting community as a whole...
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I kind of feel a little bit out of touch with it lately as well. I don't get the appeal of voting for repacks. Other than I guess you would get a slim say in what Hasbro would repack. I would assume that they would all be clonetrooper repacks anyway? I mean that is what would "win". The whole idea sounds odd to me. Or it just does not appeal to me I guess.
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I would assume that they would all be clonetrooper repacks anyway? I mean that is what would "win". The whole idea sounds odd to me. Or it just does not appeal to me I guess.
I think this may be part of my problem with it, it looks as though it will be a pure sweep of Prequel Stuff. And I loathe the Prequels in all their forms. I have to wonder if I would feel different if it was some OT stuff. Besides the Prequel Repack wave is not exactly making room for other figs right now...they are the the 3 3/4 inch versions of Oxygen thiefs...
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I voted in the initial rounds of most wanted from each line, but this pairing figures up doesn't really seem logical. It should of just been the top 8 or so from each line and then a pure vote where each voter picked their favorite 12 of the 60+ winners. This pairing is awful because a few I really wanted are against each other while 2 figures I could care less about are against each other. How in the world is this NCAA type of bracket supposed to determine the repacks to be included? What is figure x gonna be chosen over figure y just because it won its pair off even though figure y why had more votes, but was beat by figure z? WTF! >:(
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Well at least now non-members can vote.
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I abstained from several of the votes, because "None of the above" was not an option. And likewise, if VTSC Biker Scout ends up against Death Star Gunner, I'll be wish I could vote BOTH...
So does the are we going to get a case load of the winner? Is that how it will work? I guess it is now, "which figure would you like to see a whole case of"...From the looks of the pegs at my local stores, Pregnant Padme won this years title...
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I saw a ton of Gunners today at WM. :-\
Always goodto have troopers on the pegs if I want some more though. I want all the troopers minus the Saga 1 Sandies & Pilot. I want a couple of the non-troopers too.(Fett,Ephant,Droids,Ewok,etc...)
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Running commentary on the "winners" ::) from round one of "All Hail Caligula's Horse":
Power of the Force 2
1) Death Star Droid
2) Pote Snitkin
3) Oola and Salacious Crumb
4) Zuckuss
5) Ree-Yees
6) 2-1B Medic Droid
7) Ishi Tib
8) Aunt Beru Lars
These figures are all POTF2 and should therefore be ineligible to EVER be rereleased. The protocol droid-esque body has been perfected recently and I'd much rather see a resculpted DSD than see this one rereleased. Pote Snitkin is okay, but the "bib" overcoat would need to be fixed at the very least. Oola is not up to today's standards, and Salacious Crumb is a joke. Ree Yees, again isn't up to today's standards, and neither are 2-1B (who we need resculpted, period, at which point they can give us the droid from Vader's rebirth as a repaint; after all the original 2-1B didn't exist from the waist down). Ishi Tib is the only one out of those eight who might be acceptable, but again, he has the "bib" overcoat, and that would absolutely need to be redone. I'd rather see a totally resculpted Ishi Tib from Jabba's Palace than the Rebel version that they couldn't even find a photo of at the time to use for his cardback or Freeze Frame.
Oh, and it goes without saying that Zuckuss needs to be redone from scratch, as well. If they're going to give us (more or less) SA versions of Fett, Dengar, Bossk, and IG-88 (presumably), we need a matching 4-LOM and Zuckuss to go with them.
Episode I
1) Bonus Pit Droids 3-pack (3 colors/2 poses)
2) Battle Droid 2-pack (4 versions)
3) TC-14
4) R2-B1
5) Sio Bibble
6) R2-R9 (Naboo Royal Starship)
7) Graxol Kelvyyn (Watto's Box)
8) Darth Sidious (Holograph)
The Pit Droids I understand completely. I have no problem with that. I think the main reason people want more Battle Droids (these in particular) is because the recent ones have sucked so badly, plastic-quality wise. TC-14, R2-B1, Sio Bibble, and R2-R9 have "retail suicide" written all over them. Graxol Kelvyyn's too big for a standard card, so I'm sure he'll conveniently lose if he makes it to the final grouping. The Holographic Sidious is a great figure, but if the current sales of holographic figures is any indication, he'd be DOA too.
Power of the Jedi
1) R2-Q5
2) Dak Ralter (Snowspeeder Pilot)
3) Paploo (Speeder Bike Thief)
4) Battle Droid (Security) 2-Pack
5) Imperial Officers (3 versions)
6) FX-7 Medical Droid
7) R4-M9
8) Amanaman
Okay, R2-Q5, Dack, Paploo, and R4-M9 aren't up to today's standards. Amanaman is dirt cheap on the secondary market and warmed pegs big-time upon initial release (and still is warming pegs in some areas according to other sites). The Battle Droid Security figure is a good choice, as the plastic was good and the articulation was good too. It still holds up, as does FX-7, although I'm not so sure how FX-7 would do at retail now. The Imperial Officers would be nice to see again, as I'd love to have two more to pilot my Shuttle.
Star Wars Saga
1) Ephant Mon
2) Clone Trooper (Republic Gunship Pilot)
3) R4-I9 (Imperial Forces)
4) R3-A2 (The Battle of Hoth)
5) Battle Droid (Arena Battle) (2 versions)
6) Coleman Trebor
7) Sandtrooper Troop Builder (4 versions)
8) AT-ST Driver (Imperial Forces)
Ephant Mon, yes, but again, like Graxxol Kelvyyn, I'm sure he'll conveniently lose if he makes it to the finals. The Gunship Pilot Clone Trooper would be better served by rereleasing the Evolutions Clone with both helmets. R4-I9 and R3-A2 aren't bad ideas, actually, but only if Hasbro doesn't intend on updating them. The AB Battle Droids have the worst plastic of any figure and I seriously doubt that Hasbro will correct this should they "win." Coleman Trebor is a pure fanboy choice and was never difficult to find to begin with. The Sandtrooper Troop Builder thing is a horrible idea, especially with the TSC Sandtrooper being as good as it is. It's like going back and continuing to release the CommTech Stormtrooper when you've got the VOTC...oh wait. The AT-ST Driver isn't a bad idea, but I'd prefer to see them use a new head with a removable helmet at the very least.
The Original Trilogy Collection
1) Boba Fett (VOTC)
2) Clone Trooper (Troop Builder)
3) Clone Trooper Lieutenant (Troop Builder)
4) RA-7 (Sandcrawler Droid)
5) Clone Trooper Commander (Troop Builder)
6) Clone Trooper Captain (Troop Builder)
7) Clone Trooper Sergeant (Troop Builder)
8) Wedge Antilles
Boba Fett, absolutely. Paint him in ESB colors and I'd be thrilled to death. The Clones are a definite, although I'd drop the Sergeant, Captain, and Lieutenant, and just go with the white Clone and a randomly packed Commander. RA-7, like the DSD he's based on, doesn't hold up, and Wedge sucks. Next.
Revenge of the Sith
1) Coruscant Clone Commander (Evolutions)
2) Clone Trooper Commander (Evolutions - AOTC)
3) Sandtroopers Sergeant (Evolutions)
4) Sandtroopers Squad Leader (Evolutions)
5) Clone Trooper (Evolutions - AOTC)
6) Covert Ops Clone Trooper
7) Saleucami Clone Trooper
8) Utapau Shadow Trooper
First of all, I find it funny how the top 5 are all Evolutions figures (six if you count the ROTS Anakin, which I think Hasbro is intentionally making a bitch to get multiples of). I've got to say I don't think they should do the Sandtroopers though, since the TSC version is much better, deco and articulation-wise, and I'd rather they repaint their pauldrons/mix up accessories than the Evo version. The AOTC White Clone (with a Pilot helmet) is a decent choice, as is the Saleucami Clone Trooper. The Covert Ops and Utapau Shadow Troopers are EU Hasbro creations and, as such, suck.
The Saga Collection
1) Biker Scout (VTSC)
2) Captain Fordo (The Hunt For Grievous)
3) Heavy Gunner Clone Trooper (The Hunt For Grievous)
4) Clone Trooper 442nd Siege Battalion
5) Shocktrooper (Skirmish in the Senate)
6) Clone Trooper Fifth Fleet Security
7) Sandtrooper Corporal (Escape from Mos Eisley)
8) Death Star Gunner
Biker Scout, undoubtedly. The Shocktrooper isn't bad, either, and given how many GB/H&V figures are clogging the pegs, making finding new figures nigh impossible in some stores, the rereleases of the 2 "final 22" Clones might not be such a bad idea. I would forgo Fordo for a (hopefully) more accurate version down the road, and the same goes for the Heavy Gunner. The DSG and Sandtrooper I fully endorse (or as much as I can/will endorse rereleasing something currently at retail in a lot of areas).
Expanded Universe - Shadows of the Empire, Clone Wars, Star Tours, & more
1) Darktrooper (Dark Forces)
2) Spacetrooper (Heir to the Empire)
3) ARC Trooper (Clone Wars) (2 versions)
4) Durge (Clone Wars)
5) Asajj Ventress (Clone Wars)
6) Luke Skywalker (Dark Empire)
7) Imperial Sentinel (Dark Empire)
8) Kyle Katarn (Dark Forces)
None of these eight figures (9 if you count the ARCs separately) hold up today. The only one who might work is Durge, and that's only if they reissued the one that came with the Swoop Bike, and that's still pushing it for an EU character. I'd like to meet the people who thought reissuing the Imperial Sentinel was a good idea, though. Listen to Mr. T and stay off the drugs, fools.
As for the biggest piece of crap on there (that being Hasbro's slipshod reasoning to YET AGAIN keep the VOTC Stormtrooper off shelves), it doesn't surprise me. After all, all they would really need to do would be remove the pauldron from the Tin Sandtrooper and say it's a Stormtrooper. I also won't be the least bit shocked if the RH (Removable Helmet/Revisionist History) Stormtrooper still has the backpack hole in his back, doesn't include the thermal detonator (but will still have the hole in the belt), and has some kind of battle damage on his armor to make a clean Stormtrooper an impossibility yet again.
Seriously, what the ******* hell Hasbro? People are clamoring for the VOTC Stormtrooper to be released on a wide scale and all we get are excuses, "new" versions of it with extraneous bull****, and endless reissues of ROTS figures in its place. If you simply rerelease the VOTC Stormtrooper as-is, I promise you the world will not implode. ::)
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Alot of the choices on there are crap. I don't get why the two ARCs are on there when Cody (probally the Hest-TF of the year) & the Utapua clone or Kashyyyk Clone don't end up there. :(
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I call shenanigans on this whole thing. I don't think the results are genuine. I don't have proof, but I've just got a dirty feeling about the whole thing.
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Some of the choices look pretty iffy to me too, but I'm not surprised necessarily either. The whole poll is quite clone-tastic, which again, isn't surprising. I guess I'm a little surprised/disappointed that more of the VOTC figures didn't make it on there. I know I'd really like to be able to pick up more VOTC Han Solos, Chewbaccas, Vaders and others - at a basic price - than some of those other figures on there. Don't get me wrong, I like clonetroopers (particularly the ROTS versions), but this whole assortment is going to end up being made up of those. I actually don't have the majority of the POTF2 figures listed, and hope to get them someday, but as it was mentioned earlier they could all really stand a resculpt. And really, whether we're getting a removable helmet version of the VOTC Stormtrooper or not, I'm sure the market could handle having two versions out together. Just slap the "regular' version in this assortment too :).
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i actually like this idea. ps oola's not doing too well against darktrooper can everyone please go to rs and vote oola i want to see her released again. thanks.
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Mark my words, this will be the last time Hasbro lets the collectors pick anything (well, almost anything)...
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Yep besides Fan's Choice, there's way too many clones. of course that's not a bad thing, but where is the AT-RT driver? Something's messed up, if Katarn wins against Fett I'll go crazy. >:(
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I am VERY angry that the awsome troop builder clone is losing! WTF?!
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I am VERY angry that the awsome troop builder clone is losing! WTF?!
Why are you mad? There's gonna be a Green Clone later in the TSC repaint wave, and a White Clone in 30AV. Patience.
Here's hoping the DarkTrooper wins.
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I am VERY angry that the awsome troop builder clone is losing! WTF?!
You have to face facts, the days of clone popularity are long gone. Clones are destined to peg warm from now onwards. Just watch.
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Here's hoping the DarkTrooper wins.
To an oola fan, them are fightin' words! ;) ya darktroopers cool i guess but oola would be a nice winner too. i'm really ****ed off that both hunt for grievous clones esp Fordo are losing miserably because i didnt get that bp at all and want it bad. repacks are the least hasbro can do for their sucky distribution of this amazing multipack. >:(
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You have to face facts, the days of clone popularity are long gone. Clones are destined to peg warm from now onwards. Just watch.
(http://www.chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_justin/Crystal%20shocked.jpg)
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I think Billy Crystal makes that face better than the Home Alone kid.
But that is exactlty the face I make when I see a bunch of clones, gunners, shock, vader's legion on the pegs eveywhere I go in town. :-\
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yeah, and it's the face I make when I see 0 Scorchs 0 Codys 0 Utapau clones and 0 death star gunners on the pegs...at least in my area...
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I have not seen any U clones in a while but Codys and Scorchs are warming like crazy. I usually see a few DSG at Target everytime I go in but not as many as the Codys and Scorchs.
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well then ohio sure is different than ca as far as that's concerned cuz iv never seen a single scorch or cody on the pegs, ever. ??? :'(
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I think he was being sarcastic.
:P
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uhh...ok...
oh, and vote fordo. who needs another inconspicuous, unnecessary, pegwarming astro droid/ not me. i want fordo [id put a bunch of exclamation points to pepper that 'i want fordo' comment but my dam shift key sucks1...see]
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Where has Hasbro said a white AOTC clone in 30 A? That question is where we learnt this whole thing!
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I think he was being sarcastic.
:P
That's my assumption, too. I'm also in Ohio, and while I'm seeing a lot of DSGs these days, there are very few Utapaus and NEVER any Codys, much less Scorches.
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ok, ok, iget it! i just heard that there were abundant supplies of these in some parts of the country. WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED TODAY? apparently these parts of the country do not include ohio and california. ::) :P
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Looking at the current results of "Round 2", it kind of makes me sad that the Battle Droids would be beating out a re-release of the VOTC Boba Fett. Sure, I understand army builders and all that, but that Fett would sure be a nice figure to get out there again. There's a few figures that are winning so far though that seem like surprising choices.
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The only figures i would be interested in buying are the different Imperial Commanders and the Pit Droids from Europe. Other than that, I dont really see anything that interests me.
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I would love to see the Pit Droids. I think we all would, and it's a shame that they will lose eventually to some clone - at this rate, all 8 of the choices elected will likely be clones (Fett included). I hope Hasbro sees the love and sneaks them in the GH line for us.
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I would love to see the Pit Droids. I think we all would, and it's a shame that they will lose eventually to some clone - at this rate, all 8 of the choices elected will likely be clones (Fett included). I hope Hasbro sees the love and sneaks them in the GH line for us.
yes thats true. :( i want to see the pit droids, votc boba fett, ephant (to go with the hermi hasbro had BETTER make!), clone captain, plain AOTC clone trooper, and i'm interested to see what kind of bubble a graxol kelvyyyn fig would fit in for the basic line, so him too. 8)
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i'm interested to see what kind of bubble a graxol kelvyyyn fig would fit in for the basic line, so him too. 8)
Don't worry, I'm certain he won't make it to the finals. I'm sure he'll miraculously "lose" at the last minute when Hasbro realizes they'd have to make a bigger bubble for the figure. After all, when you're a company who designs toys based on how well they fit in a standard packaging style, you can't afford to rerelease something that fans request if it doesn't fit your ideas for a uniform package. ::)
All I needed to see was that blurb that RS found some "anomalies" in the tallying of the first round votes that needed to be "fixed" and I knew that there was more than one type of fix going on in this.
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I can understand that they'd have to recognize some form of "fraud", as you could sign up for many memberships and vote several times, however...
That is no reason to change votes to what you estimate is the appropriate number. I just hope VOTC Boba goes all the way. It would be a shame to me is the Fan's Choice rehash were a bunch of pit droids or characters of the like.
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I'd hate to see it all be clones. I'm rooting for Boba too (I'll be shocked if Hasbro doesn't include him, winner or not - there's what, 16 other GH figs they're going to do?) but I think there's only so many times you can go to the well.
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What I think will be a travesty is the Pit Droids not making it... I can't believe people have voted against them at all, much less in the numbers we've seen them voting... That's just a lot of suck in my book.
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It would be a shame to me is the Fan's Choice rehash were a bunch of pit droids or characters of the like.
A bunch of Pit Droids that were never made available at retail here in the U.S., that are among the rarest and most expensive figures of the modern era? Yeah, who the hell would want those?
The Holo Sidious and NRG bonus Pit Droids are the only figures that are still missing from my modern collection (that's an 11 year span, for those who haven't been paying attention). But yes, I'd much rather pay a couple hundred bucks to get them on eBay, rather than $6 or $7 each in a new Greatest Hits assortment at Target next year... ::)
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Looks like the Pit Droids advanced to the latest round, and are up against R2-Q5, who shouldn't provide much competition (but who knows). Crossing fingers.
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Yeah, it looks like things are narrowed down to the "Sweet Sixteen". I'm sure each of those figures will make someone happy out there, as it seems to be "rare" figures or army builders. Personally, I'm pulling for VOTC Boba and VTSC Biker Scout, but there are other decent figures in there as well. Looks like the Evolutions Sandtroopers are facing off this round as well.
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I haven't been following this stuff as close as I should be, so I'm wondering: Is it that the top eight figures in the Rebelscum poll are going to get their own Greatest Hits wave next year? So that basically the eight figures that win in Round 3/Sweet Sixteen are automatically gonna be done next year? Or is it just the top figure that wins it all will be put in a GH wave with other figures of Hasbro's choosing?
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That's what I've been wondering as well. Sometimes it sounds as if it is the "top 8", but I haven't seen it stated clearly anywhere. But, I did notice this answer in this week's Q and A:
"Staying on the 2007 GH subject, will the winning figures be straight repacks or, if an opportunity presents itself, will the figures be upgraded, through kit-bashing, with improved sculpts, articulation, and/or weapons? For example, would you simply reissue Dak Ralter if he wins the vote or would you use the old head on the new Zev Senesca body, which would be a much better figure? (FFURG, 11/03/06)
The figures would be straight repacks. We decided to go this route simply because it made it the easiest to get the fan vote boiled down and also because we do not have the ability to go in and have our design team design more "new" figures at this stage since tooling and deco take time (which we don't have) and resources which are being spent on delivering the already planned new figures in 2007. However, one great by-product of the Fans' Choice vote is that they have helped identify figures that deserve an update even though they may not be in the final 8....like Dak."
That line about "the Fans' Choice vote is that they have helped identify figures that deserve an update even though they may not be in the final 8" makes me think that they are probably planning on releasing the Top 8 figures, but maybe I'm way off on that.
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But, I did notice this answer in this week's Q and A:
Maybe I should pay more attention to the content of the Q & A that I slave over every week! (http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)
That line about "the Fans' Choice vote is that they have helped identify figures that deserve an update even though they may not be in the final 8" makes me think that they are probably planning on releasing the Top 8 figures, but maybe I'm way off on that.
Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me, too. So then basically, this is the round that counts, and everything else that follows is just a matter of academics (i.e. the overall "winning" figure will get a special "#1 Fan's Choice!" sticker or something on it's bubble).
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So then basically, this is the round that counts, and everything else that follows is just a matter of academics (i.e. the overall "winning" figure will get a special "#1 Fan's Choice!" sticker or something on it's bubble).
Not exactly.. it's still something in-between. Hasbro has left themselves plenty of "fudge-factor" room...
From Derryl Depriest, via StarWars.com (http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/news20061025.html):
The actual eight fan-choice figures we'll select will be based on a combination of the results from Phase I, which was quantitative, and Phase II (the Bracket) which asks fans to make tough choices amongst a lot of great figures.
So, according to that statement, basically they can pretty much pick whatever the hell they want from the top 64 choices.
So, we're going to get:
- 16 "kid-firendly" figures selected by Hasbro
- 8 "fan choice" figures selected by Hasbro, with input from the fans.
::)
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The actual eight fan-choice figures we'll select will be based on a combination of the results from Phase I, which was quantitative, and Phase II (the Bracket) which asks fans to make tough choices amongst a lot of great figures.
Man alive--that sort of corporate speak makes my eyes kinda glaze over.
So basically, the poll is more or less of a suggestion or gauge of fan interest, but ultimately the final decision or selection is all up to Hasbro. So if, say, Graxxxxxol Kraxxxxxol and Ephant Mon wind up in the final two, Hasbro will have the right to not make those, if they don't want, due to cost issues or what have you.
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I do believe I haven't made a particular statement relative to Hasbro in this thread yet:
Crap.
Insomuch as all of this is crap. I'm happy to have a new figure whenever it pops up, but really, any notion of complete is completely out the ******* window. I wonder if Hasbro hired the genius from McFarlane that said y'know, I think 8 Gretzky's in a box of 12 figures will sell well. dumb****.
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So, should the thread be retitled, "Greatest Hits-Collector's Choice (as long as it is concurrent with what Hasbro already has planned, otherwise, See you on Ebay, fanboys!)"?
I knew that Ephant Mon and/or Graxxol would "lose" based on Hasbro not wanting to invest money in their packaging in some way, but I would have placed my bet on Rebelscum "recounting the votes" and making them lose. I never would have suspected Hasbro would reserve the right to do the exact opposite of "Collector's Choice" if it conflicted with their bottom-line.
So, now that we know this, here's the true Greatest Hits lineup for next year:
01. Anakin Skywalker (ROTS #2)
02. Darth Vader (500th Figure)
03. R2-D2 (ROTS Electronic Lights and Sounds)
04. Chewbacca (ROTS)
05. Emperor Palpatine (ROTS #12)
06. Clone Trooper (Utapau Version, if we're lucky)
07. Luke Skywalker (2004 Saga Jedi Knight)
08. Darth Vader (TSC 2006 Hoth; yes, I know...)
09. C-3P0 (ROTS)
10. Pit Droids 2 pack (two repaints of the one that came with Gasgano in 1999)
11. Mace Windu (ROTS, again)
12. Biker Scout (POTJ version)
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So, should the thread be retitled, "Greatest Hits-Collector's Choice (as long as it is concurrent with what Hasbro already has planned, otherwise, See you on Ebay, fanboys!)"?
I knew that Ephant Mon and/or Graxxol would "lose" based on Hasbro not wanting to invest money in their packaging in some way, but I would have placed my bet on Rebelscum "recounting the votes" and making them lose. I never would have suspected Hasbro would reserve the right to do the exact opposite of "Collector's Choice" if it conflicted with their bottom-line.
So, now that we know this, here's the true Greatest Hits lineup for next year:
01. Anakin Skywalker (ROTS #2)
02. Darth Vader (500th Figure)
03. R2-D2 (ROTS Electronic Lights and Sounds)
04. Chewbacca (ROTS)
05. Emperor Palpatine (ROTS #12)
06. Clone Trooper (Utapau Version, if we're lucky)
07. Luke Skywalker (2004 Saga Jedi Knight)
08. Darth Vader (TSC 2006 Hoth; yes, I know...)
09. C-3P0 (ROTS)
10. Pit Droids 2 pack (two repaints of the one that came with Gasgano in 1999)
11. Mace Windu (ROTS, again)
12. Biker Scout (POTJ version)
Hrmm... Methinks I'll be buying.. um... all.... ZERO of them...
Oboewan
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So, should the thread be retitled, "Greatest Hits-Collector's Choice (as long as it is concurrent with what Hasbro already has planned, otherwise, See you on Ebay, fanboys!)"?
I knew that Ephant Mon and/or Graxxol would "lose" based on Hasbro not wanting to invest money in their packaging in some way, but I would have placed my bet on Rebelscum "recounting the votes" and making them lose. I never would have suspected Hasbro would reserve the right to do the exact opposite of "Collector's Choice" if it conflicted with their bottom-line.
So, now that we know this, here's the true Greatest Hits lineup for next year:
01. Anakin Skywalker (ROTS #2)
02. Darth Vader (500th Figure)
03. R2-D2 (ROTS Electronic Lights and Sounds)
04. Chewbacca (ROTS)
05. Emperor Palpatine (ROTS #12)
06. Clone Trooper (Utapau Version, if we're lucky)
07. Luke Skywalker (2004 Saga Jedi Knight)
08. Darth Vader (TSC 2006 Hoth; yes, I know...)
09. C-3P0 (ROTS)
10. Pit Droids 2 pack (two repaints of the one that came with Gasgano in 1999)
11. Mace Windu (ROTS, again)
12. Biker Scout (POTJ version)
now I'm scared! thanks for that! ::) 8)
as for those pit droids, that BETTER not be the case or I'm quitting for good...i'm a pit droid fanatic, you know, thus, 'PITDROID1468' :P My collection is decorated with posed 6" pitties from the EP1 line ;D ...I digress...
there better never be another rots mace windu repack again...there's no excuse after that SA Mace coming in 07.
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If Ephant Mon is so expensive and cost prohibitive to produce, then why did they did produce him to begin with?
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I though the stock Hasbro answer was "because the rest of the stuff in the case with him was super-cheap to make".
Think back to the stuff that was packed in that case with him...
2x Ephant Mon
2x Watto - smaller than average figure
1x Teemto Pagalies - smaller than average figure
2x Tusken Raider with Massiff - simple repacks
1x Ki-Adi-Mundi - Jedi Master - kit-bash
1x Endor Rebel Soldier #2 - variant figure
2x Lott Dodd - Neimoidian Senator
1x Massiff with Geonosian Warrior
I would supect that the only way they could get away with doing him again would be a similar move - pack him with a pile of other repacks/repaints to offset the costs. I just don't see it happening carded again though as the bubble would appear to be WAY too big for that 2007 card design.
I still think the best likely hood for Ephant would be a Jabba's Palace type Battle Pack or something more suited to his large size.
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Gotcha. I agree, he's better off in a Battle Pack.
Although his girth will account for the fifth figure.
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From RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Greatest_Hits_2007_Fan_Favorites_Showdown_3_Still_Time_To_Vote_101316.asp):
Greatest Hits 2007 Gets a new name
The official name of the line will be Saga Legends. Starting next spring, this line will run alongside The 30th Anniversary Collection throughout 2007. This will be a series of 20-24 straight repackaged figures from the entire modern line, complete with collector coins and including figures from across the entire modern Star Wars collection. The coins will be generic with the 6 different movie logos on them, depending on the character.
But here's something just for the fans...and where your vote really does count. 8 figures in the line will be specially designated as Saga Legends Fan's Choice. These will be the figures that YOU voted for in the tournament. So be sure to vote!
Interesting wording. It's still not necessarily the top eight figures, I guess--it really sounds like it could be any eight figures from the field of sixty-four. It'd be funny to see what would happen if Hasbro just kind of ignores the results and goes with whatever they want after this whole big tournament thing.
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It could work either way. They could release figs that lose - VOTC Boba maybe - or not release ones that win - Graxol - on account of their size. You kind of just wish they would say that the top 8 or 4 or whatever figs get in and not have it be this wonky political type doublespeak. It's toys, I mean c'mon.
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http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Greatest_Hits_2007_Fan_Favorites_Showdown_3_Still_Time_To_Vote_101316.asp
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More from Dan Curto:
8 figures from both Phase 1 (the forum polls)and Phase 2 (the current tournament) voting will be chosen under the Fan's Choice moniker. More on that will be revealed on Monday...
Also, just because a figure is or isn't in the current polls does not neccessarly mean that it won't be included in the line. I'll reveal the full line list in a few weeks time. Some of you will be happy....and some of you won't.
I didn't think it possible, but now I'm even more confused.
Okay, so, there's 20-24 figures total in next Spring's Saga Legends assortment. Eight of those will be "Fan's Choice."
But the eight "Fan's Choice" figures aren't necessarily going to be the top eight figures in the tournament--and they may not have even been in the initial field of sixty-four!
So the eight figures are coming from those huge lists of figures, which spanned the entire line, but then the other 12-16 figures are coming from the entire range of the line, too.
And then Hasbro's already gone through and removed certain figures from consideration, due to the fact that those figures were already planned for release, anyway.
But then they're reserving the right to not make any of the figures in the tourn. . .
I guess what I'm trying to say is. . .
What's the ******* point of doing a big "fan's choice" tournament, if you're not gonna go by the results?
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Matt, my impression of this "fan's choice" polling taking place is that it serves much the same purpose as Hasbro's Q&As at conventions: It gives collectors the illusion that Hasbro is listening and communicating with them.
My favorite part is that 8 figures total would be selected from Phase 1 and Phase 2, meaning that the RS forums are going to have a hand in the selection of some of the figures after all. And gee, I wonder what RS forum members will have such influence? ::)
(and yes, I'm wearing my tin foil hat as I type this)
I also find it immensely interesting that both Graxxol and Ephant Mon are suddenly losing in their respective races. And with the complete lack of an SA white AOTC Clone Trooper at retail, and Hasbro's renewed interest in the EU giving hope to a newly-sculpted Darktrooper, people wouldn't be voting for a POTF2 figure that most people don't know anything about over the best AOTC troop builder that money can buy (and buy in multiples).
And I think it's interesting that Curto implies the full line list is already set in stone, making the voting right now a somewhat futile gesture. So, to echo Matt:
What's the ******* point of doing a big "fan's choice" tournament, if you're not gonna go by the results?
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Matt, my impression of this "fan's choice" polling taking place is that it serves much the same purpose as Hasbro's Q&As at conventions: It gives collectors the illusion that Hasbro is listening and communicating with them.
My favorite part is that 8 figures total would be selected from Phase 1 and Phase 2, meaning that the RS forums are going to have a hand in the selection of some of the figures after all. And gee, I wonder what RS forum members will have such influence? ::)
(and yes, I'm wearing my tin foil hat as I type this)
I also find it immensely interesting that both Graxxol and Ephant Mon are suddenly losing in their respective races. And with the complete lack of an SA white AOTC Clone Trooper at retail, and Hasbro's renewed interest in the EU giving hope to a newly-sculpted Darktrooper, people wouldn't be voting for a POTF2 figure that most people don't know anything about over the best AOTC troop builder that money can buy (and buy in multiples).
And I think it's interesting that Curto implies the full line list is already set in stone, making the voting right now a somewhat futile gesture. So, to echo Matt:
What's the ******* point of doing a big "fan's choice" tournament, if you're not gonna go by the results?
It's all crap.
This is not remotely a shock.
Fan's choice isn't a choice at all, it's a time filler that at the end of it all everyone can sit back, scratch there head and ask themselves well who the **** voted for that piece of ****?.
So 'Scum, or as I call them headupmanufacturersass will simply smile and nod at what Hasbro tells them to do, giving the illusion that the "community" selected these figures. Yeah, ok. Keep believing that people.
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Saga Legends???
I guess Hasbro's acquisition of the Marvel line has injected some new monikers into the SW brand.
What's next? Star Wars Origins? Star Wars Beast Wars? Good God.
If anyone can explain how a Pit Droid is a "Legend" I'll drink cup of my own piss.
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The offical name is Saga legends & will contain 20-24 figures including the 8 final fan choice figures. That's what RS says. My hope is the line will carry non- peg warming figures like VOTC 1, ROTS SA Jedi & Clones, & other good figures. Also vote for VOTC Fett instead of the droid! I REALLY want VOTC Fett, he looks like a better figure than Diety 3PO!
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Saga Legends???
I guess Hasbro's acquistion of the Marvel line has injected some new monikers into the SW brand.
If anyone can explain how a Pit Droid is a "Legend" I'll drink cup of my own piss.
I think we could agree that Vlix is a "Legend" due to his rarity as a toy, not due to his role in the star wars universe. In much the same way the pit droids from the two packs represent the holy grail of the modern figure line.
You can make it a shot-glass ;)
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Your analogy is sound Dan, if they were calling the line Saga "Rarities", but Legends to me refers to the character itself rather than its availability at retail.
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votc boba is struggling for some stupid and unknown reason can you please vote him. didnt get him first time around.
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The offical name is Saga legends & will contain 20-24 figures including the 8 final fan choice figures. That's what RS says. My hope is the line will carry non- peg warming figures like VOTC 1, ROTS SA Jedi & Clones, & other good figures. Also vote for VOTC Fett instead of the droid! I REALLY want VOTC Fett, he looks like a better figure than Diety 3PO!
i was just campaigning for fett too it sucks that its losing to a ******* astro droid. also vote ephant and graxol!
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I'll still buy the droid, but I want Fett more. I'll also buy all of the figures that win.
Damn! Jay beat me to the Legends thing. Pt Droids were legends because TPM wouldn't have Three Stooges humor in it w/o them. :P
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Wow. That's not very fan friendly at all, is it? :-\
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This whole competition has seemed to produce reasonable results until...well...until Fett started losing to that freakin' ASTRO DROID. How can an awesome SA figure that originally had cost $10-12 now be losing to a stupid little Astro droid?
>:(
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We keep hearing in the Q & A how long it takes to get these things lined up, made, and on the shelf.
What we are witnessing is not a competetion, it is a prelude to a forgone conclusion. Hasbro knows the results, because the figures must already be set for production. It is just a matter of making it all work that way before it is over.
This is an exercise in creating a buzz, and giving RS a feather in its' cap so it can claim to "represent the fandom" whatever the h*** that is.
No matter what they make, some will be happy others outraged. Some will buy them all, some will buy a few, and some will see the pegs clogged with them and walk away.
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Regardless of what they call it, it'll be interesting to see what makes the final cut in the line. I sincerely hope the are zero POTF2 sculpts.
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I think it's funny that people are getting worked up over this "Collector's Choice" stuff with Hasbro and Rebelscum... It's as if some of you didn't "get it" when Rebelscum bought the Fan Club Presidency. Oh well, don't let me be the party pooper - if you guys are having fun with your "fantasy wave" lists, then keep at it. But, uh...
Your vote doesn't ******* matter.
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What we'll get for the 24 figures-
The 8 Good figures
x 1 Darth Maul (POTJ Break apart)
x 5 Darth Vader (POTF 2 Comtech re-pack)
x 1 Chewbacca (TSC Prisoner)
x 1 Obi- Wan Kenobi (III- 1 re-pack)
x 2 Padme Amidala
x 2 C-3PO(VOTC re-pack)
x 1 R2-D2 (Commtech re-pack)
x 3 Luke Skywalker (Commtech)
x1 Han Solo (Cantina)
x 1 Poggle the Lesser (Saga re-pack)
x 1 Stormtrooper (Comtech)
x 1 Battle Droid (Arena Battle)
x 1 Naboo Soldier (TSC re-pack)
X 1 Emporer Palpatine (Saga re-pack)
x 1 Clone Trooper (Saga re-pack)
x 1 Princess Leia (POTF 2Endor re-pack)
What I want wnat (still being kid friendly):
The collector's choices
x 1 Darth Vader (Evo re-pack w/ Shaw Head)
x 1 Luke Skywalker (Saga 1 Jedi re-pack)
x 1 Han Solo (VOTC re-pack)
x 1 Anakin Skywalkler ( Evo re-pack- I can always use more of certain fugres)
x 1 Princess Leia (VOTC re-pack)
x 1 Chewbacca (VOTC re-pack)
x 2 Utapua Clone Trooper
X 2 Kashyyk Trooper
x 1 R4-P17
x 2 AT-AT Driver(TSC re-pack)
x 1 Lando Calrissian (VOTC re-pack)
x 1 Yoda (OTC re-pack w/ Saber)
x 1 Battle Droid (Security)
x 1 Droideka (TPM)
x 1 Clone Commander (OTC re-pack)
x 1 Sandtrooper (TSC re-pack)
x 1 Royal Guard (REd ROTS re-pack)
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Regardless of what they call it, it'll be interesting to see what makes the final cut in the line. I sincerely hope the are zero POTF2 sculpts.
:P
There are SOME good POTF2 sculpts! Ishi Tib, Death Star Droid, and Oola are excellent! 8)
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We still need BRAND new sculpts, if they got POTF 2 sculpts they should be getting new sculpts soon, IMO.
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Agreed a repack from POTF2 would be insulting, very very very insulting.
I can sorta live with a POTJ repack, since I would not buy it but still, come on. :-\
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Regardless of what they call it, it'll be interesting to see what makes the final cut in the line. I sincerely hope the are zero POTF2 sculpts.
:P
There are SOME good POTF2 sculpts! Ishi Tib, Death Star Droid, and Oola are excellent! 8)
It's funny you mention those, because I wouldn't call them the better POTF2 sculpts. DS Droid is good, but the wide stance is a bit much. Ishi Tib has that weird side-cut robe and Oola needs a better stance. I would call Pote Snitkin, Muftak, Rancor Keeper, and even the Gamorrean Guard as the better POTF2 sculpts.
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Ponda is OKthough, but I want a VOTC update
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All kidding aside, I think the Spacetrooper looks pretty ugly, but the Darktrooper still looks pretty sweet. I still want a couple more Darktroopers for myself if I can find them for less than $30!
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Saga Legends???
I guess Hasbro's acquisition of the Marvel line has injected some new monikers into the SW brand.
What's next? Star Wars Origins?
Heh, new name for the McQuarrie concept figs :P
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All kidding aside, I think the Spacetrooper looks pretty ugly, but the Darktrooper still looks pretty sweet. I still want a couple more Darktroopers for myself if I can find them for less than $30!
The Darktrooper is another one I was late to the party for. I played Dark Forces after the figure came and went and really dug the character. I would have picked up more had I known.
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id like a darktrooper, too, but i hate that its beating the plain white AOTC clone i never found a single one of. i hate that most of these pairs seem to have been matched to make people choose between two figures they equally want to see again, at least for me thats how it is.
i voted white AOTC clone! ;D 8)
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i voted white AOTC clone! ;D 8)
You do know he's already coming out in '07 in the basic line, right?
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Wow...these final 8 "legendary" figures are quite simply pathetic. I can't believe the VOTC Boba Fett lost to a droid. ::)
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Yeah, I like droids and all, but I can't believe that VOTC Fett lost. Also, while I'm glad that this will hopefully help some people pick up a figure or two that were tough for them to find, there are very few of these remaining figs that I would deem "Legends". If they want a true "Star Wars Legends" line to repack alongside the main line, just fill it with figures like VOTC Han Solo, Chewbacca, Stormtrooper, Boba Fett, Pilot Obi, Evolutions Anakin, Vader, etc. Don't give us pit droids and background droids and call them "legends".
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i voted white AOTC clone! ;D 8)
You do know he's already coming out in '07 in the basic line, right?
Really? I thought if he was that he would have been taken out of the voting choices like the VOTC Stormtrooper was.
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Okay, if they're seriously going to do a Saga "Legends" line, here's what needs to be rereleased. SERIOUSLY (for me):
24 figures total, right? 8 will be "fan choice" (so to speak, so that leaves 16 total. Do 8 from each trilogy, and here's what I would pick:
OT:
01. Han Solo (VOTC)
02. Luke Skywalker (VTSC X-Wing Pilot)
03. Chewbacca (Early Bird/VOTC)
04. Darth Vader (Evolutions with Shaw Head)
05. Princess Leia Organa (VOTC)
06. Stormtrooper (VOTC)
07. Boba Fett (VOTC in ESB colors)
08. Emperor Palpatine (Evolutions)
PT:
09. Qui-Gon Jinn (rumored SA version)
10. Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS Pilot)
11. Anakin Skywalker (ROTS Evolutions)
12. Clone Trooper (AOTC White)
13. Darth Maul (Evolutions with Soft Goods Cloak)
14. Padme Amidala (Episode I Celebration Gown)
15. Battle Droid (POTJ Security Droid two-pack)
16. R2-D2 (R4-G9 mold but absolutely clean)
Just my thoughts. We'll probably still only get the ROTS Anakin #2 and the ROTS Vader. ::)
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So, according to today's info from Dan Curto, the winners of these matches will be made next year:
Bonus Pit Droids Vs. Biker Scout
Imperial Officers Vs. TC-14
Sandtrooper Sergeant Vs. R4-I9
Darktrooper Vs. Coruscant Clone Commander
The remaining four "Fan's Choice" figures have already been chosen (by Hasbro), and were taken from those huge, initial polls in the RS forums.
So my question is, why not just call the final four the "Fan's Choice" figures, and leave that designation off the other four Hasbro-chosen figures?
(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/this_is_spinal_tap/_group_photos/christopher_guest2.jpg)
Marty: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number. . . and make that a little louder?
Nigel: . . .These go to eleven.
Convoluted ****, all the way around.
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i've really hated this whole fans choice thing. at this point they might as well have let hasbro pick the same old stuff they do. because its really starting to look like that to me. and aside from the constant dwindling of the list, the stuff that was selected was either stuff i'd like to see gain some value or stuff i'm too cheap to spring for on ebay. the scariest part is the fact that Rebelscum is clearly an hasbro sock puppet, i was always really amazed at the way the ppl on those boards sounded like ppl whom had stock in hasbro. funny how things turn out....and atleast they changed the tittle from fans choice(more like collectors choice) to saga legends(now gather around the fireplace young largo, daddys gonna tell you the legend of the rarely seen two to a case repack collection of '07!or the legend of the biggest pegwarmers of all time!or new lyrics for weird al)
so far next year looks like its gonna be painful for my wallet.
voting wise, i voted againsit everything i have, which was most of the lists! and voted EU. which ofcourse has been murdered by a slew of troopers(expected) and droids.
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I really want the Pit Droids to win but as of now they are down. :-[
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I need to make a serious campaign for the Pit Droids 2-Pack. I've already changed my signature here on the forums. Let me make a couple statements about these great figures.
1) We have seen three Biker Scout figures in this one year. These pit droids were only released once in Europe.
2) Due to this, they are among the last figures many carded completists have to collect. Even loose collectors would benefit, due to their knee articulation and unique paint aps found in no other pit droid figures. On Ebay, they are worth (carde in 2-Packs) anywhere from fifty to 200 dollars. Biker Scout? Well, around 20.
So, c'mon, fans, wake up,
and VOTE PIT DROIDS DAMN IT!!! ;D 8)
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^ It was close, since I want the Imperial officers too, but I did vote for the pitdroids when it came down to crunch time.
So ... as the votes stand right now, we'll be getting VOTC Biker Scout, Imperial Officer(s), Darktrooper, and Sandtrooper Sergeant. What horse****. I mean, I'll probably buy the first three of those, but these are not what I would have really wanted at all. :-X While I did vote for some of them in earlier stages, when it came to this latest round I voted for the three droids and the Coruscant Clone Commander. :-\
(Granted, some of the votes are close and one or two of them may turn around before the end.)
All of this fanfare and the wailing and gnashing of teeth, and it looks like all we got out of it is four Imperial troopers. >:( And then, of course, Hasbro just picks another four however they please. horse****, I tell you.
And yes, I realize I was a fool to hope this might turn out any better than it did. ::)
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I am happy if the Imperial Officers get made since i never found them all the first time. (At least i dont think i did :o ) But there is no need for the Biker Scout to be released. The pit droids shoul dbe the clear winner, i don't understand why they are not.
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No Fett!? >:(
The Pit Droids better win.
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The pit droids shoul dbe the clear winner, i don't understand why they are not.
I did vote for the ptdroids when it came down to crunchtime
The Pit Droids better win.
thanks, guys :)
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Pit droids are nice and a set with tools would be cool. But honestly that smells like a pricey EE set to me.
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Pit droids are nice and a set with tools would be cool. But honestly that smells like a pricey EE set to me.
i hope not
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Well it looks like the 4 winners have been selected:
The Pit Droids
The Imperials
The Dark Trooper
Sandtrooper
I am happy the Imperials and Pit Droids are being released this way. ;D
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http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Saga_Legends_Fans_Choice_Showdown_The_Final_4_101468.asp
But the voting is not over yet! Now that the final 4 are determined, we're going to take it one step further. In addition to being released as one of the "Fan's Choices", the figure (or figures, in some cases) that you vote as the #1 fan favorite will be specially marked that way on the card. So once again, every vote counts to determine the overall fan favorite figure.
Cripes ... could they milk this any farther?? ::)
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Pit Droids win! Pit Droids win! ;D I can't wait to see these next year.
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YES! YES! YES! YES! ;D now lets just hope hasbro doesnt just give us a repainted 2-pack of the PD's that came with gasgano. :P but, keeping this positive, yay, im so happy! its a relief to know that the voting fan community has this much common sense, i was very scared that biker scout would win.
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God forbid that an OT character win over a PT character for the 30th Anniversary line. ::)
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To say that I'm absolutely thrilled that Hasbro is now locked into making the foreign Pit Droids available for a decent price in the US after 7 years is a true understatement. I just hope that they ship the living hell out of them in all their different color variations so I can finally put that nagging OCD item out of my mind forever. ;D
I'll definitely buy a couple of Imperial Officers to pilot my Shuttle, and I'll probably pick up the Sandtrooper just because, but I have to say I'm a little bit disappointed that the Darktrooper was one of the four finalists. I'm glad that everyone that has wanted one will be able to add one to their collections, but the sad part is that by rereleasing this one, it pretty much nullifies the possibility of a much more detailed and articulated version of the figure in the near future.
Oh well, three out of four ain't bad. :)
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God forbid that an OT character win over a PT character for the 30th Anniversary line. ::)
I'd much rather have 7 more biker scouts than 7 dinky pit droids, but that's just my opinion.
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Actually that's 14 Pit Droids you'd have. :)
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God forbid that an OT character win over a PT character for the 30th Anniversary line. ::)
I'd much rather have 7 more biker scouts than 7 dinky pit droids, but that's just my opinion.
Your opinion is the same as mine. Even though I have my quota of Scouts, Id rather see them than Pit Droids.
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I'm definitely glad to see those Pit Droids crack the top four. They were among the toughest figures to get over the whole span of the modern line. I definitely hope that Hasbro will include the accessories that were unique to the later offerings in the 2-packs.
As for the rest of the poll? I think Hasbro's definitely going to give strong consideration to any figure that made the top 8. But I also think that the polls have been hit so hard by army builders that the whole thing borders on a farce. And what will be equally ridiculous is that Hasbro is going to insert some core characters into the Saga Legends line that they were planning on anyway, and that is bound to start off a whole new round of whinging. Any way you slice it, this will be message board fodder for months to come, and the most ridiculous part about it is that a lot of people will be arguing about figures that most of them already have. ::)
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But the voting is not over yet! Now that the final 4 are determined, we're going to take it one step further. In addition to being released as one of the "Fan's Choices", the figure (or figures, in some cases) that you vote as the #1 fan favorite will be specially marked that way on the card. So once again, every vote counts to determine the overall fan favorite figure.
Favorite figure is a misnomer. It's not about favorite, it's about getting the chance to get a figure you missed out on or want more of.
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Good point- and furthermore, it's not a true favorite because of the bracket system necessarily eliminating what could have gone further than it did, since each pair-off had to eliminate one.
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The other 4 should be:
Boba Fett (VOTC)
Clone Trooper (AOTC,SA)
FX-7
Security Battle Droid
But will probally be:
Coleman Trebor
Luke Skywalker (EU)
Ishi Tib
Asajj Ventress :-X
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Are they ******* serious? That retarded Darktrooper is winning this thing? Maybe they'll throw us a bone and resculpt it. It looked cool in Battlefront (because it looked more like a stormtrooper), but the current POTF2 Darktrooper looks like a rejected He-Man villain concept.
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I gotta disagree Lando, but only because the Dark Trooper's original design isn't from Battlefront and for me it came from a BETTER game in Dark Forces... Since they designed the character I feel it's the more "true" version of the character. In the game he's big... The figure looks just like 3-D renderings of the character from the instructions and guide actually.
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I liked three of the final four. Didn't care for that Sandtrooper making it to production. I could handle the rest, happily.
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So, the final four were PotJ Imp Officer, Evo Sandtrooper, Pit Droids, and Dark trooper?
Once again with Hasbro , it seems like I'm winner and a loser all at the same time. While I am very happy to have a chance to finally get those EU Pit Droids, my OCD is irritated at having to buy all these damn carded variations that are coming. Remember what Curto said early on in the poll (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Greatest_Hits_2007_Fan_Favorites_Round_1_Results_100933.asp)?
The Bonus Pit Droids (previously only available overseas) will be combined into a 2-pack with one of their accessories. Should they advance, look for a running change of all 3 color schemes (and changing accessory) on these as well.
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all three variants of the Imperial Officer would be made as a running change
So, that means that I can look forward to buying as many as NINE different frickin' variations of just two winners. ::)
2007 Saga Legends Beige Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #1
2007 Saga Legends Beige Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #2
2007 Saga Legends Orange Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #1
2007 Saga Legends Orange Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #2
2007 Saga Legends Red Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #1
2007 Saga Legends Red Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #2
2007 Saga Legends Imperial Officer (Head #1)
2007 Saga Legends Imperial Officer (Head #2)
2007 Saga Legends Imperial Officer (Head #3)
* It's times like this I hate myself for having a complete carded collection. :-[
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My advice, get out before the 30th Annv. line starts - it's cathartic ;D
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I gotta disagree Lando, but only because the Dark Trooper's original design isn't from Battlefront and for me it came from a BETTER game in Dark Forces... Since they designed the character I feel it's the more "true" version of the character. In the game he's big... The figure looks just like 3-D renderings of the character from the instructions and guide actually.
Oh I know its from Dark Forces, and I loved that game. But the DarkTrooper to me was always a total '90s big huge video game boss. In battlefront the Darktrooper seemed more realistic.
But the main problem I have with the Darktrooper is that the sculpt and articulation doesn't really hold up very well with the current offerings. I have a Darktrooper (or at least I used to...I may have traded him away), and I don't even display him. He just doesn't seem very Star Wars-ish. A more poseable and better detailed Darktrooper would be awesome, not a repack.
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Now there I'm with you... mostly. I think the sculpt's 100% accurate to his 3-D renderings from his instruction guide and strategy guide, but as far as articulation goes he's as bad as everyone else from his era... :( What I'd like is an actual removable suit with a figure of Rom Mohc inside, or even a Phase 1 Endoskeleton inside (even better since that's what makes a real Dark Trooper). That would rock as a deluxe figure... It's totally doable too with the size of the character.
Any of the figures voted on from pre-2005 were pretty much not on-par with today's figures though. Beyond Clones, I can't think of much on that voting list that I wouldn't want resculpted or at least getting a new leg sculpt here and there.
For instance the Imp Officers are cool, and if I find them cheap they're cool, but $7 is too much for a figure with such **** articulation (and lame accessory pack-ins to boot). Now, you give that figure the DSG's legs, and perhaps his arms, and I'm in... I'm in for dozens more to go with the dozens I have.
About the only ones, beside SA Clones, I really was behind in the vote, were the Pit Droids... I was sorta behind white EE/CW SA Clones, Evolutions Clones, and VOTC Stormtrooper till his removal as well, as these are all worthy repacks that were tough to find (Evolutions barely shipped to Pitt), but yeah I just couldn't get into a lot of that other stuff... Ephant Mon became easy enough to pick up (I even had trouble trading away an extra!), and I mean Sio Bibble? You could super articulate him and I'd still not want that figure since I have one.
The whole voting thing told me one thing... Never trust the opinion of collectors. They're very split, it's obvious by the numbers. And they're very fickle over what they like and how they feel others should collect as they do... The whole vote thing seemingly brought out the worst in many people from what I've read. It's silly.
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The problem I have with the 3D renderings of the Darktrooper, is that they were done with old software, and just isn't that great (the rendering of Boba Fett on the back of the cd-rom jewel case is a good indicator). I see the Dark Trooper as I see the POTF2 ANH Jabba the Hutt...its a good representation of a crappy 3d rendering.
Overall, I like the idea of the Darktrooper, so a resculpt would be nice (even a version with a figure inside like you mentioned), but the POTF2 Darktrooper feels too much like a cheap kick in the balls to me.
You're right though...never trust the opinions of the fans. I hadn't expected how many fans would have such bad taste. :-\
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I just cannot believe the Darktrooper thing. It is a kick in the balls and it will be an even bigger/stronger/bolder kick in the nads if Hasbro puts him out in his POTF2 "glory".
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The only reason I want the Dark Trooper on the pegs is the kids. How many five year old boys would not want a huge ass stormtrooper with a big ass gun (and generic SW die cast coin) ;)!?
Hell, I'd rebuy one just so junior could have one to play with.
Nevermind the fact that the EU version I bought a year ago for $20 will become worthless... :P
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i never got a darktrooper, so personally, i am excited to have this figure out again, and i also kinda think this a cool character.
300th POST!
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So, that means that I can look forward to buying as many as NINE different frickin' variations of just two winners. ::)
2007 Saga Legends Beige Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #1
2007 Saga Legends Beige Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #2
2007 Saga Legends Orange Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #1
2007 Saga Legends Orange Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #2
2007 Saga Legends Red Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #1
2007 Saga Legends Red Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #2
2007 Saga Legends Imperial Officer (Head #1)
2007 Saga Legends Imperial Officer (Head #2)
2007 Saga Legends Imperial Officer (Head #3)
* It's times like this I hate myself for having a complete carded collection. :-[
Leave it to Jeff to bring reality crashing down. :P
You're right, I never thought about it that way.
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If I ever see a Darktrooper I may pick one up. I've always voted against him, except maybe twice.
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If I ever see a Darktrooper I may pick one up. I've always voted against him, except maybe twice.
i voted against him only when he was up against oola. he beat her like 95% to 5% sadly, which really sucked for me. i wanna see oola again.
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The Darktrooper is definitely kind of ridiculous in terms of the modern figure aesthetic. It's much more like an old video game boss than anything else. I think the only appeal to the figure is that it was HTF.
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Looks like we have a list:
Darth Vader
Darth Maul
Yoda
R2-D2
General Grievous
C-3PO
Clone Trooper (ROTS SA White)
Clone Trooper (SA Shocktrooper)
Battle Droid (AOTC Red)
Clone TRooper (AOTC SA White)
Boba Fett (VOTC)
Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS Pilot)
Chewbacca (Cloud City Capture)
Anakin Skywalker (ROTS)
Saesee Tiin (ROTS)
Destroyer Droid
Clone Trooper (SA 501st)
Leia Boussh
Sandtrooper (Evolutions)
Fan Choice
Pit Droids
Imperial Officers
Darktrooper
Clone COmmander (Evolutions SA Grey)
Clone Officers (EE Set Versions)
Scout Trooper (VOTC)
TC-14
RA-7
R4-I9
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Here's what I'll be buying...
Clone Trooper (AOTC SA White) x4
Clone Trooper (SA 501st) x3-4
Pit Droids (all 4)
Clone COmmander (Evolutions SA Grey) x5
RA-7
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Not a bad selection considering they're all repacks. How about those SA shocktroopers and 501st? Nice nod to the army builders.
On the flipside, good luck finding all of the variations of the officers and clones...that's going to be a bitch for carded collectors.
No VOTC stormie I see...I guess the re-release of the VTSC Biker Scout and VOTC Boba Fett kind of throws Hasbro's rule out regarding never seeing VOTC molds used in their exact same form in other lines...kind of makes me feel like a sap for paying $10+ for them originally.
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Not too bad I guess, but not exceptionally exciting to me I guess. I was kind of hoping for a few more OT figures, and a few less of the figures that were in the Greatest Battles assortments this year already (R2, Yoda, Grievous, Obi-Wan, Anakin, etc.) The Pilot Obi is great, but I wish they could put the Evolutions Anakin in there instead of the "#2" sculpt again. Again, a lot of ROTS figures we've seen a lot of. I think they could have handled to put a decent Luke or Han in there, unless we'll get our fill from the basic line. They'd probably just stick Cantina Han in there again anyways, although a VOTC Han would have been great. Anyways, for repacks I guess it is fine. I'm glad we're seeing figures like VOTC Boba Fett and the Scout Trooper released again, because I'd like to get a couple more of those. It looks good for army builders.
I'll probably be picking up these....
VOTC Boba Fett
VTSC Biker Scout
Clone Trooper (AOTC SA White)
Clone Trooper (SA 501st)
Shocktrooper (SA)
RA-7
R4-I9
TC-14
Darktrooper
And maybe a couple others (extras mainly).
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No VOTC stormie I see..
They've already explained that he was out of the running because he's in the basic figure line in '07.
I agree though, not a bad list at all. Lots of army builders should equal lots of sales. I'm glad I've got most of my troops already. The only one's I'll need to buy from that entire list are the Pit droids since I don't have them and the Imperial Officers to bring my officer platoon up to full strenght.
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Whew, judging by what Curto says, it will just be 4 variants for the Pit Droids, not 9 like I originally feared:
On another note - Holy Crap! As a sucker carded collector, with all the running changes on these, I'll be buying:
2007 Saga Legends Darth Vader (Saga-013)
2007 Saga Legends Darth Maul (Ep1 Pack-In)
2007 Saga Legends Yoda (RotS #03)
2007 Saga Legends R2-D2 (RotS #48)
2007 Saga Legends General Grievous RotS #09)
2007 Saga Legends C-3PO (Saga-017)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Trooper (RotS #41)
2007 Saga Legends Shocktrooper (Battle Pack)
2007 Saga Legends Battle Droid 2-Pack (Tan)
2007 Saga Legends Battle Droid 2-Pack (Maroon)
2007 Saga Legends Battle Droid 2-Pack (Blaster Damage)
2007 Saga Legends Battle Droid 2-Pack (Lightsaber Damage)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Trooper (Clone Wars 03-50)
2007 Saga Legends Boba Fett (VOTC)
2007 Saga Legends Obi-Wan Kenobi (RotS #55)
2007 Saga Legends Chewbacca (Saga 02-38)
2007 Saga Legends Anakin Skywalker (RotS #02)
2007 Saga Legends Saesee Tiin (RotS #30)
2007 Saga Legends Destroyer Droid (RotS #44)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Trooper (new - SA 501st)
2007 Saga Legends Leia Boussh (Saga-001)
2007 Saga Legends Sandtrooper (Evolutions - White Pauldron)
2007 Saga Legends White Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #1
2007 Saga Legends Brown Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #1
2007 Saga Legends Brown Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #2
2007 Saga Legends Red Pit Droid 2-Pack w/Toolbox #2
2007 Saga Legends Imperial Officer (Head #1)
2007 Saga Legends Imperial Officer (Head #2)
2007 Saga Legends Imperial Officer (Head #3)
2007 Saga Legends Darktrooper
2007 Saga Legends Clone Commander (Evolutions - Ep3 Grey)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Red)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Yellow)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Blue)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Green)
2007 Saga Legends Scout Trooper (VTSC)
2007 Saga Legends TC-14
2007 Saga Legends RA-7 (Sandcrawler)
2007 Saga Legends R4-I9
That's right, 39 - THIRTY-NINE carded figures in this line. And that is only counting the variations that we know about know (you know there will be more once they are released).
Add in the fact that Hasbro has already confirmed plans for 60 figures in the main figure line and that is almost ONE HUNDRED basic figures again next year. ::)
I guess I'll kiss that $1000 goodbye right now. :-*
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I think I'm going to save myself a lot of trouble and just get the troopers and battle droids, that is if I can find them all. Also, since I missed it, I'm going to have to pick up the VOTC Boba Fett too.
2007 Saga Legends Shocktrooper (Battle Pack) X2
2007 Saga Legends Battle Droid 2-Pack (Tan)
2007 Saga Legends Battle Droid 2-Pack (Maroon)
2007 Saga Legends Battle Droid 2-Pack (Blaster Damage)
2007 Saga Legends Battle Droid 2-Pack (Lightsaber Damage)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Trooper (Clone Wars 03-50) X2
2007 Saga Legends Boba Fett (VOTC)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Trooper (new - SA 501st) X2
2007 Saga Legends Sandtrooper (Evolutions - White Pauldron) X2
2007 Saga Legends Clone Commander (Evolutions - Ep3 Grey)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Red) X2
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Yellow) X2
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Blue) X2
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Green) X2
So not as bad as Jeff, but I'm in for at least 22 and I know that I'll be buying all of next year's Battle Packs as well. Hopefully I will be able to cut back on the basic line quite a bit...
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So after looking at the list it looks like i will be getting these:
Darth Maul (Episode I coin)
Shock Trooper (Episode III coin)
Clone Trooper (Episode II coin - Clone Wars)
501st Clone Trooper (Episode III coin)
Sandtrooper (Episode IV coin)
Pit Droid (white 1, brown 1, brown 2, orange 2 - Episode I coin)
Imperial Officer (1, 2, 3 - Episode V coin)
Dark Trooper (Expanded Universe coin)
Clone Commander (Episode III coin)
Clone Troop Officer (red, yellow, green, blue - Episode II coin)
RA-7 (Episode IV coin)
R4-I9 (Episode IV coin)
Now being a fan of the coins, you can see i was keeping track of which had which. From the looks of it i think the Biker Scout is the only one with a ROTJ coin so i will probably buy him just to get the coin.
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I wonder how many times Hasbro can rerelease that crappy #2 ROTS Anakin?
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I wonder how many times Hasbro can rerelease that crappy #2 ROTS Anakin?
The year hasn't even started yet, so I'm sure they'll crank it out at least three or four more times next year after this. What got me was how the other site claimed it made a decent pilot figure. In what ship? The one where he stands up so his elongated crotch doesn't prohibit proper seat position that also includes harnesses for his arms so they don't fly all around the cockpit? ::)
So, out of the list, I'll definitely be buying:
Shock Trooper (SA Version) (x a few)
Battle Droid (Geonosis) (x a few)
Battle Droid (Naboo) (x many)
Battle Droid (Blaster Damage) (x many)
Battle Droid (Lightsaber Damage) (x many)
Clone Trooper (AOTC SA White) (x many)
501st Legion Clone Trooper (x many)
Evolutions Sandtrooper (x 1)
Pit Droids (in all colors and varieties)
Imperial Officers (x 2)
Biker Scout (x many)
Coruscant Clone Commander (x many if he still comes with the extra regular Clone belt so I can make some moderately SA Coruscant Gray Clones)
Everything else is going to be left behind by yours truly. :)
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I think this line totally sucks. The same figures rereleased on (ooohh) newer cards= ridiculous, and I'm not buying a single one! The fact that people keep buying particulars in these repack waves year after year is why Hasbro keeps selling it. Or did they sell it well this year?!? Was in stores Sunday and miraculously hundreds (that have been sitting on the shelfs and increasing to the endcaps because none were selling fast enough) of GB, HV, GH repacks are removed from shelves in 4 WM's I visited. Only 1 store had them still and they had 48 figures including several of the 501, shock variety that ?people? want to buy again next year. Even the the price tags saying Greatest hits were removed so that only only The Saga Collection figs remained. I asked one store employee and (toy manager) he tells me that these figures were going back to the main wherehouse...interesting.
My guess? These figures will be pulled back by Hasblow to be repackaged and resold under the next year POS Saga Legends line so suckers can buy them again. LOL- glad I'll have plenty extra cash to spend on the regular line and other stuff.
I'm not going to buy the same figure (outside of a basic, new line) every year just for the new background if I don't have to...I didn't do it last year(any for my collection anyway no GH,GB,HV), I didn't buy them the year they came out with the refresher wave after OTC, and I won't do it next year either-- I'm not THAT wacked.
Lastly, I thank Hasbro for not numbering these figs as part of the years' line ever. Thank you for that...now I really don't have to buy. :)
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I am angrier at Hasblo than I have been in a very long time. OK, how the **** can they repack #2 Anakin, #3 Yoda, Pilot Obi, and 500th Vader again? Seriously? That is so ******* stoopid! And the ugly Maul from the Sith Speeder? Pbbbthhh...LAME! And you know what really ticks me off? How they are releasing all of said figures in the very first wave. This is a plot. I predict that these crappy figs will be sitting on the pegs to an extent that they wont be restocked with the better figures in the later waves. I GUARANTEE it! I'm only buying Pit Droids, Darktrooper, and the AOTC clones. The rest can sit on the pegs and ROT for all I care! Hasbro can take this Saga Legends line and shove it up their @$$! I am ANGRY! I am bitrillijillometers away from entirely quitting, or at least drastically scaling back on what I purchase from this twisted company anymore. >:(
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You need to take a chill pill. You don't get killed if you decide not to buy particular figures. Vader, Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Yoda are not being made specifically for collectors. Sure, some may buy them, but they're mostly for kids. As it is now, I rarely see those characters in my area. I agree that Maul is odd, but it is an alright pilot figure. Perhaps as good of a Maul pilot as can be made by Hasbro without using the Evolutions sculpt. If you're angry about this, then you should quit collecting right now, since repacks/repaints are very common in this line.
Now, here's what I like:
2007 Saga Legends R2-D2 (RotS #48) x1 (Still need an electronic version)
2007 Saga Legends Clone Trooper (RotS #41) x6
2007 Saga Legends Shocktrooper (Battle Pack) x2
2007 Saga Legends Battle Droid 2-Pack-11 Tan 2-pks, 10 rust 2-pks
2007 Saga Legends Clone Trooper (Clone Wars 03-50) x17
2007 Saga Legends Boba Fett (VOTC) x1
2007 Saga Legends Destroyer Droid (RotS #44) x7
2007 Saga Legends Clone Trooper (new - SA 501st) x 8 or 9 (depends on whether or not Bow is coming out)
2007 Saga Legends Pit Droid 2-Pack- 2 sets, the two colors that I like most with two different tool boxes
2007 Saga Legends Imperial Officer (1 of each to crew my Imp. Shuttle)
2007 Saga Legends Darktrooper - Maybe 2 of these, most likely 0
2007 Saga Legends Clone Commander (Evolutions - Ep3 Grey) x6
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Red) x2
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Blue) x2
2007 Saga Legends Clone Officers (EE Set - Green)- 4 minus however many Saga versions I get
2007 Saga Legends Scout Trooper (VTSC) x1
2007 Saga Legends TC-14 x1
2007 Saga Legends RA-7 (Sandcrawler) x1
2007 Saga Legends R4-I9 x1
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OK, how the **** can they repack #2 Anakin, #3 Yoda, Pilot Obi, and 500th Vader again? Seriously?
Because, kids play with these, because this is a CHILDREN'S TOY LINE. It can't all be filled with fan favorites and super obscure background characters. Plus, we're getting TONS of collector oriented stuff in the coming year. Darktrooper, bonus Pit Droids, Revan, concept figures, Galactic Marine & other clones, just off the top of my head. So stop throwing a hissyfight that the CHILDRENS TOY company picked characters that you don't like. Honestly, you sound like a third grader hopped up on Jolt Cola.
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I think I would've preferred the Coruscant wave versions of Anakin and Obi-Wan in the reissues, but in the grand scheme of things those aren't that big a deal. The lineup for Saga Legends is an army builder's dream come true.
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Overall, this is a good selection. Some of the repacks (Anakin #2 - and that CLoud City Chewie, a fig that's just starting to hit again?) are tired, but kids and their moms eat these alive, so. Hasbro came through on a few figs (VOTC Boba! Pit Droids! Rainbow clones!) and I think these will do pretty well.
What I'm getting:
Clone Trooper (SA Shocktrooper)
Boba Fett (VOTC)
Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS Pilot)
Clone Trooper (SA 501st)
Sandtrooper (Evolutions)
Fan Choice
Pit Droids
Clone COmmander (Evolutions SA Grey)
Clone Officers (EE Set Versions)
Scout Trooper (VOTC)
RA-7
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I'll get:
Wave 1
Clone Trooper
Wave 2
Wave 3
DarkTrooper
Clone Trooper Officer
Wave 4
TC-14
R4-I9
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I'll be picking up: (* means as many as I see ;D )
*Clone Trooper (ROTS # 41)
*Shocktrooper
* Battle Droid (All versions)
* Clone Trooper (SA,AOTC)
Boba Fett
Sasee Tin
* 501st Clone Trooper
* Sandtrooper
* Pit Droid (All)
* Imperial Officer (All 3 heads)
* Clone Commander
* Clone Officers (All)
TC-14
R4-19
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ok, i was a little hard on hasbro. sory! :-[ ill just say what im glad for.
i like that even though some of these high demand figs lost, hasbro is giving them to us anyway, e.g. SA Boba Fett, coroscaunt commander, and TC-14. that was very good of them :). and, they seem to be releasing the european pit droids that we asked them for and not the ones that came with gasgano like i pre-criticized them for.
so, quite a few very annoying mistakes, but overall i guess i can say, 'thank you hasbro.'
i do think my wave 1 warmers theory will come true, but as long as i can track these good ones i mentioned down, this line will be a-ok.
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I getting the following
Clone Trooper (SA Shocktrooper)
Clone Trooper (CW)
Boba Fett (VOTC)
Clone Trooper (SA 501st)
All Pit droids
All Clone Officers
Sandtrooper (Evolutions)
RA-7
Clone Commander (Ep3 Grey evolutions)
TC-14
Scout Trooper (VTSC)
Obi-Wan ROTS Pilot
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These are the ones that interest me:
Darth Vader
Darth Maul
Clone TRooper (AOTC SA White)
Boba Fett (VOTC)
Saesee Tiin (ROTS)
Destroyer Droid (depending if it's TPM or not)
Fan Choice
Pit Droids
Imperial Officers
Clone Officers (EE Set Versions)
Scout Trooper (VOTC)
RA-7
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Actually, I think it's great tha Hasbro created a separate line for these, as opposed to littering the 30 AC with them. In general, I'll pass. But these aren't made for me. They're made for casual fans, parents, and fans too cheap/lazy to go to Ebay to look for figures from five years ago.
The only ones I don't have are the Pit Droids...
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Destroyer Droid (depending if it's TPM or not)
Destroyer Droid. From the ROTS line. Sculpt based upon AOTC/SAGA1 version. Eh, I'll get a couple. I do prefer the TPM version over this one, but I'll throw a couple of these in my battle arena. 8)
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I'll be picking up the AOTC Clones and the 501st Clones if I can find them.
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I'll be picking up the AOTC Clones and the 501st Clones if I can find them.
I think the tread for Clone distribution is better now than it has been in the past. With luck, these guys should be just as easy to get, after a while.
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If this line sells well, then I'm happy for everyone that needed figures they missed, or wanted to bulk up armies. For me, I think there may be 2-3 figures of the whole line that I want: the Sandtrooper (have 2 already), the Imperial jumpsuits (have 1 of each head and a couple more of the original one), and possibly RA-7 (made one by using nail polish remover on a DS Droid). So as you can see, I don't have a NEED for any, but a couple extras might be nice ::)
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What I'll get:
Clone Trooper (SA Shocktrooper)
Battle Droid (AOTC Red)
Clone Trooper (AOTC SA White)
Boba Fett (VOTC)
Saesee Tiin (ROTS)
Destroyer Droid
Clone Trooper (SA 501st)
Pit Droids
Imperial Officers
Darktrooper
TC-14
RA-7
R4-I9
Maybe:
Clone Trooper (ROTS SA White)
Sandtrooper (Evolutions)
Clone Commander (Evolutions SA Grey)
Clone Officers (EE Set Versions)
Scout Trooper (VOTC)
What I WON'T get:
Darth Vader
Darth Maul
Yoda
R2-D2
General Grievous
C-3PO
Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS Pilot)
Chewbacca (Cloud City Capture)
Anakin Skywalker (ROTS)
Leia Boussh
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I decided unless I find one before the end of the year, I'll be getting 2 3POs (1 for regular grey 3PO which dosen't seem to be in the Ilum BP & mix-match droids) & 1 Grievous.
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I decided unless I find one before the end of the year, I'll be getting 2 3POs (1 for regular grey 3PO which dosen't seem to be in the Ilum BP & mix-match droids) & 1 Grievous.
ah, yes...the 3PO. i just remembered that BP...i guess ill have to get one.
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Soome guy got one from Japan & he's gold??? :'(
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I'll be picking up the AOTC Clones and the 501st Clones if I can find them.
I think the tread for Clone distribution is better now than it has been in the past. With luck, these guys should be just as easy to get, after a while.
From what Ive seen with the Holo Cody wave you are correct sir. Here's hoping it continues. ;D
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hopefully we get a good selection of this wave in canada. that way i can finally get those clones i have been missing out on.
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I see the first wave is up for pre-order at EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770L)... no pictures yet, but they do have a case assortment.
1x Darth Vader
1x C-3P0
1x Darth Maul
1x Battle Droid 2-Pack
1x Yoda
1x R2-D2
1x General Grievous
1x Shock Trooper
2x Clone Trooper (Episode II)
2x Clone Trooper (Episode III)
So... why would you put the basic White ROTS #41 Clone Trooper at 2x per case, but the higher-demand Shocktrooper at 1x per case? Because it costs a bit more to add the Red Deco to the Shocktrooper? ::)
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Yeah there's another less than brilliant choice for a case ratio. The true in-demand figure will be the AOTC Clone though. At 2 per case he's still going to be the toughest find in that assortment I think. :(
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I'm with Jeff on this one - I'd rather see the SA Shocktrooper packed more than one per case as they only way to get him was the Skirmish in the Senate BP.
I have enough AOTC clones thanks to the EE.com four packs.
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I myself would rather get a less of the shocktroopers and the vanilla plain EIII clone and more of the vanilla plain EII clones.
If you think about it, there were no plain (colorless) EIII Clones in the film anyway. I would rather get a heavier case assortment of the all white EII clones as they were a pain (for me at least) to find at retail back in '03
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I agree with you jaybird on the E2 Clones being the more in-demand figure in general I think... That one's still gonna be a bitch to find, and that just sucks.
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I agree with you jaybird on the E2 Clones being the more in-demand figure in general I think... That one's still gonna be a bitch to find, and that just sucks.
indeed.
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I agree with you jaybird on the E2 Clones being the more in-demand figure in general I think... That one's still gonna be a bitch to find, and that just sucks.
Yeah, I guess, but all I need is one for my carded collection. I've got my troop fill, though, this is my favorate clone.
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From, http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS13100&mode=retail&picture=out
(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/HAS13100.jpg)
New Battle Droid Commander? :o
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Looks like OOM-9 to me.
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It's not the EPI OOM-9 though.
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That's cool, but a tad annoying though (armybuilding wise.) Also looks like different droid molds than the Final 22 2-pack.
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Yeah, looks like the AOTC and ROTS basic Battle Droid.
Hopefully the Commander won't have the backpack in the final product.
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The clones are two packs?! ;D ??? 8)
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Robo-Quack: Sorry to rain on your parade, but the clones are most likely not two-packs. I believe that Big Bad Toy Store shows all of the contents of the case, thus leading to two clones being pictured.
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Now clone 2-packs!? :o
What next scout 2-packs! :o :o
The droid pack looks like the ROTS figure, sweet they said we're getting Geonosis BDs so maybe a Geo BD coomander! :O Good commanders finally!
Even the re-pack waves for next year are awesome!
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I am BEYOND thrilled that one of the two droids is being repainted as OOM-9. The Trophy Edition version has been one of my personal holy grails for the last 7 years, and even though this isn't the same thing, if the AOTC/ROTS body holds true, it might just be the next best thing.
I'm also extremely happy that Hasbro is going to (hopefully) go with the AOTC/ROTS BD body sculpt as opposed to the AOTC Droid Assembly Line sculpt. Not that the latter isn't a good sculpt with superior plastic, but at least this version has better articulation at the elbows and (particularly) the head and neck.
I'm still not too happy with the case assortment ratios, though. The ROTS Clone which, at best, only appeared in the background of certain shots should probably have been at 1 per case with the SA Shocktrooper at 2. The AOTC Clone needs to be packed in every subsequent case outside of this one because it's going to be a bitch to find if it's not. The currently shipping Clone Sergeant from the Saga line seems to be the hardest to find figure of the final 22, and I'm thinking a plain white Clone will be even more difficult than that.
And, another minor personal gripe: if they're going to continue to flog the horribly underscaled Grievous, could they at least paint him correctly?
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Hopefully the Commander won't have the backpack in the final product.
True, but we can always take the backpack off. ;)
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Yeah, but he still needs antennas. ;)
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Why does the shock need to be packed x 2 a case? He's warming like hell in my area & don't give me that "better body sculpt" excuse, who actually has their shocks using their ball-joint waist in display?
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I love the OOM-9 and will love him even more if they go ahead and do the Geonosis version in the next wave. I agree the Shocktrooper should be two per case - none of these clones should be anything less. It sort of defeats the purpose.
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Robo-Quack: Sorry to rain on your parade, but the clones are most likely not two-packs. I believe that Big Bad Toy Store shows all of the contents of the case, thus leading to two clones being pictured.
aww, that sucks, but id still love that and think its within the realm of possibilty for hasbro.
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What I'll pick up: Several AOTC Clones, Several Battle Droid 2-Packs, and maybe 2 Shocktroopers.
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Why does the shock need to be packed x 2 a case? He's warming like hell in my area & don't give me that "better body sculpt" excuse, who actually has their shocks using their ball-joint waist in display?
I'll just give you one collector's point of view. I saw the #6 clone sculpt of the shock clone over the past few months about 25-30 times. I passed on all of them.
Had it been the SA #41 version, I'd have passed on none of them. That is, I'd have bought them all.
Those birthin' hips have got to go on the #6 version.
I also bought 5 battle packs just for the SA shockies.
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Sorry, didn't want to read the whole thread. I guess I have 2 questions. Are there "only" going to be 30 of these? And does anyone know what cards these are going to be on (current saga variation or new 30th anniversary variation). thanks in advance.
I have to admit, I'm seriously considering ending my collecting b/c of WAY too many repacks AND too many figures a year.
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I recall seeing twenty-four figures somewhere...I could be wrong though.
They will be on the new hexagon style cardbacks with coins. Although the coins will not have character specific engravings - they will be movie specific; unlike the regular figure releases for the 30AC line.
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Dude I just watched the episode last night where Gob washed Franklin...hilarious :) I never watched in the original run, so catching them in HiDef on HDNet. Season 3 starts next Wed.
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Glad you enjoy it!
I'm in the process of coverting my AD DVDs to my ipod.
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i can't remember if i have said this before well asked actually but does anyone know if the Saga Legends line will be a US exclusive or will it be available to Canadians as well? :-X
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DVDs to iTunes to iPod...is that possible? The reason I ask is I'd like to get Apple TV for my plasma downstairs b/c its small enough to put right behind the panel (can't find any DVD players that fit between the tv and the wall) and stream my DVDs from my laptop to the TV. I didn't think you could import DVDs to iTunes though. Unfortunately Apple TV only streams iTunes media...nothing else. If you know of a "trick" let me know.
Sorry to be getting off subject everyone else :)
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I'll happily nab more of both clones and the battledroids if the bd's are decent quality plastic... Not much else to shout about here though, and that damnable AOTC Clone is still gonna be a royal pain in the ass to obtain.
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It's going to be hard to resist these repacks just because of the new fandangled cardback artwork. And that 501st will be tough to find at retail. Probably packed one per case...
Edit: Yep, he's one per case.
>:(
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Waiting for Newforce to get these for Pre-Order. Always good to get a case of figures for pre-tax cost shipped to your door.
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I've been waiting too. I think Rick had a tough time moving last year's Greatest Hits so he might be taking a break this year.
I'll send him a note.
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I kind of forgot about these. I want that Evolutions grey sandtrooper the most. I am sure I will try for the 501st, Fett, and OOM-9.
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Definately getting several BD 2-packs and AOTC Clones. Maybe a few 501st as well. I'm also undecided on picking up a few more Sandtroopers and another Fett.
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is the ep. 3 clone trooper in this wave SA because the picture that is up of him in packaging looks like the jet pack figure :-\
did they change something without telling us or what?
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is the ep. 3 clone trooper in this wave SA because the picture that is up of him in packaging looks like the jet pack figure :-\
did they change something without telling us or what?
Actually the picture that's up is the AT-TE tank gunner body, like the previous 501st/tactical ops releases.
The rumor is that the figure in the Legends line is supposed to be the SA 41 sculpt, but EE is showing the AT-TE.
Guess we'll wait and see.
For me it'll make close to a $200 difference, because I want 0 of the AT-TE body but about 30 of the SA 41 type.
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is the ep. 3 clone trooper in this wave SA because the picture that is up of him in packaging looks like the jet pack figure :-\
did they change something without telling us or what?
EE is simply using the photo that they had on hand so that they could list this wave with photos. However, their photo of the ROTS 501st Clone is incorrect. And in the past EE has provided photos in their listings that were not entirely accurate in an effort to give consumers a rough idea of what the final product looked like. They did so with the 30AC Darth Vader Sith Starfighter, but also added a disclaimer that they had photoshopped an image of another Jedi Starfighter. In the case of Saga Legends wave 2 EE has posted the following disclaimer under the product image: Images of upcoming products may be prototypes and are subject to change before shipment.
Now, if you go back and read Rebelscum's article (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Saga_Legends_Complete_Details_101680.asp) on The Saga Legends line you will find that the actual version we're getting of this Clone is derived from the ROTS SA Clone Trooper (#41). You can give this report a great deal of creedence since Rebelscum was directly involved in shaping the Saga Legends line by conducting the polling for the Fan's Choice portion of the line for Hasbro. That close working relationship on this line lends a great deal of credibility to RS on this particular subject. Hasbro even added a note at the end of the RS article to thank fans/collectors for their participation in the poll.
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sorry guys i wasnt really referring to the 501st.
this is the figure i am referring to...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/hockey_77/TF_2007_Hasbro_0057.jpg)
sorry for the confusion guys. i was trying to talk about this guy. the pic we got shows him being (what i guess to be) the deluxe ROTS clone figure. yet RS says we would get the SA. my question is...which one are we getting ? :-X sorry for the trouble. ::)
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Oh, that one? That was probably on hand more for use as a packaging mockup than actual product. You'll notice that there is no coin in the blister. The final product in the Saga Legends line should have a movie coin, and not an individual character coin. So in the case of that particular Clone you should be seeing a Revenge Of The Sith coin, but again there is none in that blister.
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Right.
You can also tell it's a mock up by the visible red die cut lines.
I'm sure the SA sculpt will ship and they just used whatever white clone figure that had lying around the office that day. Only astute collectors would catch it.
Most retail buyers would not.
:P
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Most retail buyers would not.
Nor would most care... exccept maybe Target - they seem to really have a thing for RotS Clones. :P
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You can also tell it's a mock up by the visible red die cut lines.
Also, there's no blister coffin.
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What I'm getting.
Darth Vader x0, Im sick of this sculpt.
Darth Maul x1, I like how it looks carded.
Yoda x0, Im sick of this sculpt.
R2-D2 x0 Im sick of this sculpt.
General Grievous x0 Im sick of this sculpt.
C-3PO (with Battle Droid head) x1 Sure.
Clone Trooper (ROTS) x0 Too many ROTS clones for me.
Shocktrooper x0 ditto
Battle Droid 2-pack (tan, maroon, blaster damage, lightsaber damage) x2 Yeah!
Clone Trooper (AOTC) x2 Yeah!
Boba Fett x1 Yeah!
Obi-Wan Kenobi x0 Nah!
Chewbacca (with C-3PO) x0 Eww!
Anakin Skywalker x5!!! Ehh, just kidding... :P
Saesee Tiin x1 I like how it looks carded.
Destroyer Droid x1 Sure!
501st Clone Trooper x0 No more 501st for me.
Princess Leia (Boushh disguise) x0 It awrmed the pegs long enough last year.
Saga Legends Fan's Choice
Dark Trooper (Fan's Choice #1) x1 Yeah!
Imperial Officer (3 variant head sculpts) x0 Nah!
Pit Droids 2-pack (white, brown, orange) with 1 (of 2) accessories x2 Super cool!
Sandtrooper x0 Not so much...
Clone Commander (Coruscant) x1 Okay, it's pretty cool, couldn't find it before.
Clone Trooper Officer (red, blue, yellow, green) x0 No thanks...well, maybe I'll get a couple reds, we'll see
Biker Scout x1 As long as Hasbro gives us a new speeder bike.
TC-14 x1 Yipee!
RA-7 x1 He's interesting enough, I'll take one.
R4-I9 Don't even know who the hell this droid is. I probably don't care either...
There are some good parts of this line that are beginning to grow on me (RA-7, Saesee, Dark Trooper, Boba Fett) so yes, I will certainly buy some...if they're good enough.
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I was just looking at the pics of the 1st wave of these over at RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Saga_Legends_Wave_1_In_HighRez_105154.asp), and sadly, seeing the "movie specific" coins kind of makes me want to get one figure from each movie at least just to get these coins. Stoopid coin album and me wanting it complete :P.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna buy all of them, just a few interest me... but since I'm a TAC coin-addict I'm gonna have to make sure I'm able to get at least 1 from each movie, too. Maybe I'll get help with a local army builder.
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I'm both happy and disappointed at the same time with some of those pictures.
Happy: The ROTS Clone Trooper is the ROTS 41 SA sculpt without all those little brown marks, making it our first totally clean SA version of the ROTS Clones.
Disappointed: Hasbro used the 2002 Saga Deluxe Battle Droid body/bodies after all for the Battle Droid two pack. Crap.
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Those battledroids are indeed pathetic... I cannot believe Hasbro would rehash those and not at least the E1 sculpt. It's at least semi-poseable. Hell, try putting the ROTS sculpt's arms on an E1 body. It'd be a nice figure I'd think... It'd at least hold a friggin' blaster right.
The coins are a little annoying too but I'm sure I can BS buying some of these... I just know I'm passing on droids and other crap they're dishing out.
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I was looking forward to those Battle Droids so much since the prototypes used the ROTS sculpt. That mold isn't perfect due to the articulation and flimsy plastic but at least it's a great sculpt and can hold the blaster the right way. I'm thinking that the only figure I'll be getting is the Clone, since it's clean. Some of these figures should have never been repacked though, and will be warming well into the start of 2008 line.
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getting the clone and BD and 3po. the others are all meh to me.
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Happy: The ROTS Clone Trooper is the ROTS 41 SA sculpt without all those little brown marks, making it our first totally clean SA version of the ROTS Clones.
It may be totally clean but it is essentially another Clone that never existed in ROTS in the first place. I wish it was the Coruscant Clone (gray deco) at least.
And that Yoda, packed with the EII coin on an EII card but it's an EIII Yoda with EIII accessories. ::)
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(http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/TACSLmaul2.jpg&text=SAGA%20LEGENDS:%20Darth%20Maul)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/TACSLmaul2.jpg&text=SAGA%20LEGENDS:%20Darth%20Maul)
I am now even more excited to get this particular Darth Maul. He is far better than some of the other sculpts around, but at first I was kind of hesitant due to the crappy head on the 1999 version (top), but it look slike there is a new head this time around (bottom). Very cool! 8)
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I'm happy that each character is not getting it's own coin. That's about the most positive thing I can say about this line.
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I'm happy that each character is not getting it's own coin. That's about the most positive thing I can say about this line.
AMEN to that DA. I'll get a few of these for sure, but the annual rehash waves are getting very very old.
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The cards look gorgeous. But I'm not paying 7 a pop for fancy cards. Wanted the BD's, but now I'm not sure... we'll see. May have to get one of those clean clones though.
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I plan to get those that were not previously offered solo on a card. I think it works out that that will get me on eof each coin too. ;D
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I'm surprised they actually made the ROTS clone all clean.
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Is it true that these figures are not numbered and not included in the 60 figues comprising 30 AC?
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I'm happy that each character is not getting it's own coin. That's about the most positive thing I can say about this line.
I'd agree with that... I didn't expect them too though and since they don't have their own coins I'm guessing they're not #'d part of the 60 either (or I'm confused), like the Legends lines of the past have been.
I'm still irked on those BD's... THe E1 sculpt is better. That's frustrating. Plus, how the hell can E1 sculpts stand but ROTS sculpts and Saga 02 cannot? It's one of those things where you'll never get a truthful answer on it. Given the SBD's redo, I think it's time a BD gets a new groove and is made of sturdy plastic.
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RS has added new pics of the Shocktrooper and AOTC Clone (same link as above). Looks like they'll be the only ones I'll buy multiples of, and hopefully they won't be too hard to find, specifically the AOTC Clone. It's about time that figure has had a single card rerelease.
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It was originally released in the Clone Wars line. The other AOTC clones have not been on a basic card. (The TSC green AOTC clone didn't have the stripe on the head)
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I have very mixed feelings about the Battle Droids. From a deco standpoint they look good. But that sculpt has proven to be so flimsy that it's become a liability. But what to do?
The EPISODE I Battle Droid is cool, but it suffers from only being displayed well in a couple of poses. It makes the figure very boring and somewhat unrealistic. Still, it's very sturdy and it's held up well since it was released in 1999.
The SAGA Battle Droid was a much more dynamic, combat oriented sculpt. And I think a lot of people were looking forward to it in 2002. But then they got them and found that over time they were keeling over under their own weight with limbs bending.
So which one to choose? It seems that Hasbro thinks that the latter is better, as long they can get the plastic to be somewhat more sturdy. It still hasn't really worked out that way. I think it *MIGHT* be possible to add some more articulation to the EPISODE I sculpt, but it would be dicey. Can that sculpt support the addition of ankle joints? Or what about shoulder joints more like those on the current Super Battle Droid? Better articulated elbows would be needed too, but I don't know how Hasbro could make that work on a figure with such a skimpy frame. It really appears to be all about tradeoffs and what is physically possible on a droid that has to seriously restrict what Hasbro can do in this scale.
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I have a question on the coins? I know this is in here somewhere, but there are many posts to go through.
They are not character related, right? I seen the pictures on RS, but are each figure going to have a different coin? Or are there only going to be 6 different (1 for each movie)?
I'm interested do to I can see me passing on many of these figures, but would like the coins. Thanks for any information.
roron corobb
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I have a question on the coins? They are not character related, right? Or are there only going to be 6 different (1 for each movie)?
Yep, there are only 6 different ones; one from each movie film. Here are 4 of the 6....
(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/legendscoins/e1.jpg)(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/legendscoins/e2.jpg)(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/legendscoins/e3.jpg)(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/legendscoins/e5.jpg)
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Is it true that these figures are not numbered and not included in the 60 figues comprising 30 AC?
I know they are not part of 30AC counting, but don't know if they have their own independent system.
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Maybe if we mail away 3 POP's from any Saga Legends figures we'll get a fancy coin folder just for these. :P
Thatd actually be cool! 8)
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I have a question on the coins? They are not character related, right? Or are there only going to be 6 different (1 for each movie)?
Yep, there are only 6 different ones; one from each movie film.
There is a seventh "EU Coin (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Saga_Legends_Complete_Details_101680.asp)" as well. I think it is only available with the Darktrooper though...
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There is a seventh "EU Coin (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Saga_Legends_Complete_Details_101680.asp)" as well. I think it is only available with the Darktrooper though...
****, now all the coin collectors are gonna buy the DaarkTrooper just for the coin... Leaving none for the people who actually want the figure, like me. Does anyone know if the DT is packed 2x or in multiple cases?
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There is a seventh "EU Coin (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Saga_Legends_Complete_Details_101680.asp)" as well. I think it is only available with the Darktrooper though...
****, now all the coin collectors are gonna buy the DaarkTrooper just for the coin... Leaving none for the people who actually want the figure, like me. Does anyone know if the DT is packed 2x or in multiple cases?
Actually, I won't be buying it, but know someone who will army build them, so I'm gonna buy a coin off him. ;)
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There is a seventh "EU Coin (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Saga_Legends_Complete_Details_101680.asp)" as well. I think it is only available with the Darktrooper though...
****, now all the coin collectors are gonna buy the DaarkTrooper just for the coin... Leaving none for the people who actually want the figure, like me. Does anyone know if the DT is packed 2x or in multiple cases?
Yeah, like me. Although I am usually the one that can not find stuff so....
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I'm hoping Hasbro is smart & ships the "Saga Legends Fan Choice" waves more than the first two. Mainly because they're army builder oriented.
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****, now all the coin collectors are gonna buy the DaarkTrooper just for the coin... Leaving none for the people who actually want the figure, like me. Does anyone know if the DT is packed 2x or in multiple cases?
Hasbro has confirmed three assortments featuring the Darktrooper at one per case. You can find the exact breakdowns at the following shameless promotion for my employer:
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/hitlist.asp?searchfield=darktrooper
Currently, we have these pencilled in for June, but as Saga Legends wave 1 isn't out yet, this is of course subject to change.
The Saga Legends assortment is going to be shipping all year long and, like with The Saga Collection, there will undoubtedly be more end-of-the-line remixes well into 2008. (We're just getting some more late-wave remixes here at EE and according to reports, so are a lot of other stores too.) So as long as everybody makes a nice big stink about the figures they can't find come Comic-Con, I'm sure Hasbro will adjust their assortments to put out at least a few more. Even if it takes a few months.
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A few more cardbacks (http://www.rebelscum.com/tacSLcards.asp) posted at RS, if anyone is interested.
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A few more cardbacks (http://www.rebelscum.com/tacSLcards.asp) posted at RS, if anyone is interested.
Well if that doesn't reinforce my decision not to collect the coins, nothing else will. Leia Boussh again, so soon?! 3PO with battle droid head? Blech.
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A few more cardbacks (http://www.rebelscum.com/tacSLcards.asp) posted at RS, if anyone is interested.
Well if that doesn't reinforce my decision not to collect the coins, nothing else will. Leia Boussh again, so soon?! 3PO with battle droid head? Blech.
You don't have to buy all of them, Brent, just the 1 from each movie and the Darktrooper for the EU coin. Then you're all set! ;) But, yes, I think we've seen enough of Boussh, 3PO-Battle Droid, and 500th Vader in a short span of time.
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A few more cardbacks (http://www.rebelscum.com/tacSLcards.asp) posted at RS, if anyone is interested.
Well if that doesn't reinforce my decision not to collect the coins, nothing else will. Leia Boussh again, so soon?! 3PO with battle droid head? Blech.
You don't have to buy all of them, Brent, just the 1 from each movie and the Darktrooper for the EU coin. Then you're all set! ;) But, yes, I think we've seen enough of Boussh, 3PO-Battle Droid, and 500th Vader in a short span of time.
Thats pretty much what i am doing, there ar ea few others i want.
On a side note, the card artwork is awesome. They really look great.
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Dont even get me started on how upset I am over that chewie and that vader and that boussh being re-released.
Dont even get me started.
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There all good figures except Chewie. Should of been EVO Vader & VOTC Leia though.
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There all good figures except Chewie. Should of been EVO Vader & VOTC Leia though.
I dont see why Chewie wasnt VOTC! hasbro knows the fig they chose has a history of pegwarming, why not go with the popular VOTC version, it makes absolutely no sense! And VOTC Leia is overdue to be re-released, I dont ever want to see them offer that Early Bird piece of crap ever again in place of the VOTC one I never found.
I dont even know why they put in another Vader, the line has enough. NO MORE VADERS!!!
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It sounds like Hasbro has chosen ROTS Chewie over VOTC Chewie due to fan voting. This seems really odd to me. Do people actually like "salon-highlights" Chewbacca more than VOTC, my personal all-time fave? I don't remember these two actually going head-to-head at any point during the poll. Maybe it is just me.
Thoughts?
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It was supposed to be the Cloud City Version of Chewie with 3PO in tow, but as you know, that ended up in one of the Repack waves (WV7) of the Saga line. So we're stuck with this. :-\
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Yeah, like we've mentioned with other figure examples (Evo Anakin, VOTC Han, etc.), I don't see why they don't just repack the best version if they're doing this anyway. I think between the ROTS/Greatest Battles/etc. waves, we've gotten enough chances at this Chewie. I think its a good idea to have a Chewie on the pegs, but I wish they would have considered the VOTC/Early Bird version of Chewbacca. There's no reason that kids, or collectors, wouldn't want that one. I know I'd pick up another one or two in that case.
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I don't see why they don't just repack the best version if they're doing this anyway.
Hasbro has said previously that it almost always comes down to which tools are available at which factory. If you are going to crank out a case of 12 "Saga Legends" figures, then you need to have the 12 tools for those 12 figures all at the same factory.
Sometimes, they can move a tool from one factory to another, but sometimes there are technical reasons why they can't do that (not compatible, different factory owner, whatever) and so you get stuck with a "lesser" sculpt to make the manufacturing dollars work.
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I'd like to see the Early Bird Chewbacca reissued over either of these, but hey, that's just me. ;D
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These two are worth buying again if only for the uber cool presentation:
Boba Fett (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/TACSLbobafett1.jpg&text=SAGA%20LEGENDS:%20Boba%20Fett)
501st (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/TACSL501stclone1.jpg&text=SAGA%20LEGENDS:%20501st%20Clone%20Trooper)
Both are nice figures for $7...well maybe one is.
I remember when ROTS came out I was picking up #41 clones for $4.77.
:'(
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I'd like to see the Early Bird Chewbacca reissued over either of these, but hey, that's just me. ;D
I think everyone would.
I don't buy all Hasbro's excuses on what tools are available either. I could be wrong, but I think that's a lame excuse coming from a company with the kind of resources that they have. I think it's more of a deal where they like to keep the best versions of some figures at a premium in terms of demand and availability for future gains with it.
:P
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I only wish we'd get and accurate ROTJ Blaster Rifle for Fett rather than the ESB one he comes with.
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Yeah, I have to admit, the cardbacks make several of these figures look pretty spiffy. I definitely hope to pick up another Fett or two, since I saw the VOTC one once and only once back in 2004. Hopefully the 501st figure shown is a "mix up", since I think we'd all prefer to see the SA version. A lot of the other figures don't look too bad, although the entire lineup is still a little ROTS-heavy for my tastes. Maybe its just the fact that the majority of the ROTS figures included were just released in the "Greatest Battles/H&V" waves last year (or can still be found in many cases).
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I hope Habro did screw up with that 501 pic I sold all of my old 501's to upgrade to the #41's. I just ran out to Wal-Mart and picked up 4 appos to rebuild that legion. I may have jumped the shark on that one. The Sandtrooper I can care less about I have enough of that one. I have been waiting for that DarkTrooper looking forward to that.
I am also dissapointed in the Battle Droids. One pic show the ROTS style now they are back at the AOTC ones which suck. I would rather buy one at a time instead of the value 2 pack. Who knows with these pics you cannot relay on them. I was planning on buying a lot of these is they were ROTS style but alas...time will tell. ???
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I agree with Nick's choice, since it fits two movies instead of one... But yeah, we're just stuck I guess. Easy pass for me, but I don't know many people who really liked that ROTS Chewbacca figure over either Evolutions figure. I doubt even kids would since it's tough to stand up, and falls apart fairly easily while the VOTC/EB figure is super (friggin' duper) articulated, stands easily, and doesn't have lepracy.
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Im just happy that they didnt screw us over with that Cloud City Chewie pegwarming attrocity again, but it'll still be a pass unless they make it VOTC, which is unlikely. I could realy use a VOTC Chewie, I only have the snowy tin set one, and I love it! Its the best Chewie of all time, and one of the best figures of all time. 8)
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VOTC or EB should be the way to go from now on.
If they want to do a ROTS one do a VOTC Chewie re-hash with New Head & New Paint, no more useof this crappy "Wookiee Rage!!!" figure.
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It sucks that there will be a running change between the crap 501st sculpt & the good one. I'm happy with the Sandtrooper one though.
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It sucks that there will be a running change between the crap 501st sculpt & the good one. I'm happy with the Sandtrooper one though.
Might want to qualify your statment. Not everyone goes to Scum for their news.
What Artoo is saying is that scum is reporting that both the 501st trooper and the Sandtrooper shown over at SSG are the ones we're getting... at first. Apprently, there will be a running change to the versions we want later on. :-\
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From what I could gather that Scum reported is this...
501st Trooper is shipping as the AT-TE sculpt, then the SA #41 Clone sculpt, both without battle damage (which makes Appo's kind of neat to mix with them).
The Sandtrooper is apparantly getting 3 versions... The figure pictured is a sorta dirtier TSC version with a different colored pauldron I guess, then the Evolutions 2nd Version, and the Evolutions 1st version... What I couldn't gather was the pauldron color. It seems like a white pauldron might get mixed in there too? And the Evo figures aren't changing so there's grey and orange, but the TSC with a more dirty paintjob might have a white pauldron. I can't tell by photos if that's white or just another grey trooper which I could honestly live without at this point... Grey's cool, but white's been ignored almost completely.
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I probably should go look for photo reference first, but just offhand, is it still accepted that there are grey and white pauldrons (in the film, that is)? I thought the grey had been discounted as dirty white ones.
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I probably should go look for photo reference first, but just offhand, is it still accepted that there are grey and white pauldrons (in the film, that is)? I thought the grey had been discounted as dirty white ones.
From SW.com (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/sandtroopers/?id=eu) Databank under Sandtroopers
"Sandtroopers wear colored pauldrons as a designation of rank. A stormtrooper sergeant's pauldron is white while an enlisted stormtrooper's pauldron is all black. Squad leaders, who lead units of seven troopers, wear orange shoulder pauldrons."
No mention of gray.
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I thought grey got chalked out to some sort of specialists, IE engineers, motorpool, medics, or something like that?
I could be wrong there of course. I also thought orange was the officers... if they are squad leaders then they would in fact be the sergeants, which isn't the case since the white ones are sergeants.
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I personally list grey as specialists, a rank between the black grunts (or pauldronless troopers), and white sergeants or squad leaders (Non-Coms). With of course orange being an officer's rank, especially since they're referred to as "sir".
I think grey is debateable. A picture exists of a trooper with a pauldron that COULD be white and really dirty, however the armor is white and there's a distinctly different shade/hue of color between the pauldron and the armor (and both are colored similarly, of course, with the same dirt/wear). Hasbro's really dark pauldrons seem incorrect regardless... The POTJ Sandie is who I'm talking about here. The Evolutions seems like the proper color, if grey does indeed exist, however it's really a tough one to call.
I go with it because, well, I have grey pauldroned Troopers in my collection so it's easy to just say, "Hey, these guys are specialists", and call it a day. :)
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Wave 4 Pic (http://jediinsider.net/g/index.php?mode=view&album=Hasbro%2F30th%2FLegends_4&pic=HS85770Plg.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0) at JediInsider (courtesy of EE).
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Well I suppose everyone will be all over the Biker Scouts again. I want a couple more and a few more of the white AOTC troopers as well. I will definately get the imperial droid. I would kind of like to get some imperials to. Sigh...poor wallet.
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I think the only one i want from that wave is a carded version of the Sandcrawler droid.
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Figures... the only stinkers in this wave are Vader and 3PO. The previous waves are full of pegwarmers, which I think will cause problems for this wave. It's a bummer, but it follows the typical Hasbro formula.
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Is anyone else worried that the AOTC clone officers are being vastly underpacked? I have yet to see a case assortment with more than one of them in it...
Seems to me there are MANY people that are going to want at least one of each color. And most of those people couldn't care less about most of the other figures. So starting with the first assumption, the fact that H is packing the variants like they are the same figure (IOW, only one AOTC clone per case regardless of color), this seems like strating out with a shortage of 4:1. Then add in the popularity and the rarity of this figure is going to be crazy.
I know the only other ones I want are a Biker Scout (just for the card really) and a Boba Fett (again, just for the card).
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Is anyone else worried that the AOTC clone officers are being vastly underpacked? I have yet to see a case assortment with more than one of them in it...
Seems to me there are MANY people that are going to want at least one of each color. And most of those people couldn't care less about most of the other figures. So starting with the first assumption, the fact that H is packing the variants like they are the same figure (IOW, only one AOTC clone per case regardless of color), this seems like strating out with a shortage of 4:1. Then add in the popularity and the rarity of this figure is going to be crazy.
Seeing as how the green seargent, which is present in a ratio of 1 seargent to 8 plain white clones, sat in Target and Walmarts around me, I'm not too worried. Blue lieutenants are present 1 to 36 grunts, red captains 1 to 144 clones, and yellow commanders 1 to roughly 2,000 clones.
I'm probably dreaming though, clones should fly. I was surprised how the green ones sat so long though.
:D
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What wave does the EU Darktrooper come in?
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Is anyone else concerned that once these start filling, and eventually warming, pegs, the 30AC will be impossible to find?
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Considering the 30AC stuff is already impossible for a lot of folks to find due to the deluge of Saga stuff clogging Wal-Mart pegs, I'm guessing you'll see a lot of yes answers... :-X
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Yep, I went to one Wal-Mart yesterday that had basically been wiped clean of their TAC wave 1. I walked around the corner to see the pegs full...of the WM Saga repaint wave. I mean it is stacked full with them. LOL! I was like "You have to be kidding me!" The friggin repaint wave of all things. Needless to say there is no need to frequent that WM for a long, long time.
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That seems to be a problem all over the place. Our local WM has been packed with Enboo and Greatest Battles figures for a long time now, and I haven't bothered looking there. I stopped in the action figure aisle this past weekend while we were there, and they still have those same figures with the repaint wave jammed over top of them now. They also have 2 Vader/RFT comic packs, but that's about it. I don't see them having new basic figures anytime soon, unless they really start selling/clearancing what is there.
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i'm only waiting for tc-14 :)
there are no walmart-figures around here, because there's no walmart near me and they're hard to find in germany :(
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Considering the 30AC stuff is already impossible for a lot of folks to find due to the deluge of Saga stuff clogging Wal-Mart pegs, I'm guessing you'll see a lot of yes answers... :-X
We're still sitting on vast quantities of Endboo, never mind the old stuff. Now pics have surfaced of the Legends stuff on Canadian cards, which means we're getting it :-\ All I can say is thank goodness I pretty much wrapped up my TAC needs via ordering online. I'm good through wave 5. I won't be able to pick up any extras until they're plentiful, but at least it won't be so painful waiting for that to happen.
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Definitely concerned on pegwarming...
I think some of them make sense, I know I'll be buying a lot of them as there's some unique and sorta new figures in there... But yeah I'm very concerned about how some of these will warm pegs and screw distribution of the nice new stuff we all want in droves.
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Considering the 30AC stuff is already impossible for a lot of folks to find due to the deluge of Saga stuff clogging Wal-Mart pegs, I'm guessing you'll see a lot of yes answers... :-X
We're still sitting on vast quantities of Endboo, never mind the old stuff. Now pics have surfaced of the Legends stuff on Canadian cards, which means we're getting it :-\ All I can say is thank goodness I pretty much wrapped up my TAC needs via ordering online. I'm good through wave 5. I won't be able to pick up any extras until they're plentiful, but at least it won't be so painful waiting for that to happen.
CND cards!?!? omg this is good news ;D
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I really, really, really hope I see the DarkTrooper in the wilds of retail... That's my most wanted figure out of the ENTIRE 30AC line...
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I really really really hope I don't see too many Dark Troopers in the wilds of retail. That's my fear. :)
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I really really really hope I don't see too many Dark Troopers in the wilds of retail. That's my fear. :)
???
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I really really really hope I don't see too many Dark Troopers in the wilds of retail. That's my fear. :)
Agreed. Looks like a potential pegwarmer to me. He just doesn't even look like a Star Wars figure to me.
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It was interesting to note that in the C4 pictures some of the Ep II officer clones still have the paint issue on the helmet (stripe not fully painted).
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These have shown up in Vegas now; someone posted a pic at RS of Wave 3 plus a couple of AotC clones. And I haven't even found 1 Concept Fett yet.
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Well, the good news is that the Saga Legends line is carrying the same UPC code as the 2006 Saga Figures, meaning the current glut of Jerjerrods will never allow them on the pegs in most places. The bad news is that the Saga Legends line is carrying the same UPC code as the 2006 Saga Figures meaning the glut of Jerjerrods will never allow them on the pegs in most places. :)
In all seriousness, I think that the 2006 Saga figures need to stop shipping already. With Hasbro concentrating on other things in the coming weeks, such as the FF movie toys and (more notably for them) the TF movie toys, stores are going to be resetting, and it would be a perfect time to clear out all the old Saga stuff, making room for the 30AC figures to finally hit in numbers more than 1 case every four weeks. But, with the Saga Legends sharing the same UPC, stores aren't going to be willing or able to clear out the 2006 Saga stuff, meaning that not only are the Saga Legends not going to make it onto pegs, but the 30AC won't either.
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Well, the good news is that the Saga Legends line is carrying the same UPC code as the 2006 Saga Figures, meaning the current glut of Jerjerrods will never allow them on the pegs in most places. The bad news is that the Saga Legends line is carrying the same UPC code as the 2006 Saga Figures meaning the glut of Jerjerrods will never allow them on the pegs in most places. :)
Seriously? The same DCPI as the basic 06 Saga line or the 06 H&V/GB line?
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Seriously? The same DCPI as the basic 06 Saga line or the 06 H&V/GB line?
Yes, the 2007 Saga Legends are set with the same DPCI number as the 2006 TSC stuff... that is why Target hasn't clearanced out the 2006 figures because they are considered an "active" sku/upc by Hasbro.
This info was rumored for a while, and then finally confirmed by EE/Adam Pawlus a while back (see Question #4) (http://www.galactichunter.com/q_and_a/070430.asp), but I think it went under most peoples radar...
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Definitely concerned on pegwarming...
I think some of them make sense, I know I'll be buying a lot of them as there's some unique and sorta new figures in there... But yeah I'm very concerned about how some of these will warm pegs and screw distribution of the nice new stuff we all want in droves.
Can anyone please run down which figures in the first wave of Saga Legends are different in any way from their original releases (wave 2 if possible also)? I know that the Battle droid 2-pack and episode 3 clone trooper are different but what about the others? Since they are starting to hit this might be useful. Thanks.
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Am I correct in the assumption that the Saga Legends coins are movie specific rather than character specific?
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Yep.
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Thanks. Since I already have most of the Saga Legends figs in one form or another, it'll make getting the coins easier.
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Looks like someone found these in Northern California, or at least one of them.
http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-ROTS-SAGA-LEGENDS-SHOCK-TROOPER-LOOSE_W0QQitemZ300116661244QQihZ020QQcategoryZ101609QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Keep your eyes peeled, there are a couple decent figs in this sub-series.
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I picked up the Ep. III Clone Trooper and 2 Ep. II Clone Troopers this morning. These figures are nothing special, but they should be nice to army build. I really want to find some of the Seperatist characters next.
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I saw remnants of these today near Phoenix, AZ. The shocktrooper, white ROTS clonetrooper, and some others as well. So, guess they are hitting the west coast at least.
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Picked up a full set of these Yesterday. I'll pick up one more ROTS clone to open and upgrade my AOTC clone, but then I'm done with wave 1.
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Picked up 2 ROTS Clones, 2 AOTC Clones, and a Battle Droid two pack at the local Target over the course of a two day period. They apparently got two cases and, surprise surprise, the only figure still hanging around this morning was Vader. What makes this rerelease even more asinine is that, other than two Mace Windus, the only other 30AC figure on the pegs was the ANH Vader. So, out of six figures on the pegs, there were two different versions (4 figures total) of Vader. Never saw a Shock Trooper from either of the cases they stocked, though.
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I'm surprised to see these out already - I thought they would stagger them with Wave 3, but looks like both are hitting at the same time. At least they're repainint a few items - haven't decided which ones I'm going to get yet.
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Picked up my last openers to complete wave one for me. I was surprised that I was able to walk in the store after opening and find that no one had taken the clones.
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I got Ep.2 Clone, Battle Droids, and Maul today after digging through a case at Target. They are pretty much the only decent figures out of this first wave (shocktrooper and the other clone are good but weve seen them a jillion times!!!), I realized this seeing them all together in the case. The rest is just CRAP! 500th Vader, 4 arm Grievous(I guess hes sorta okay), and ROTS Yoda! I cant wait for the other good figures to show up, cuz damn!
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I'm very surprised that I'm seeing wave 3 on the pegs and not Saga Legends. But then there is some strange level of excitement for this line. Sure, I understand the army building thing, but as for other characters in this line? I just don't get it.
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I'm very surprised that I'm seeing wave 3 on the pegs and not Saga Legends. But then there is some strange level of excitement for this line. Sure, I understand the army building thing, but as for other characters in this line? I just don't get it.
Agreed. Of the first 10 on the Legends cardback, I'm only after the AOTC clone in multiple numbers and MAYBE the re battle droid set. That's it. Of the next 10, there's maybe 3 or 4 there I want. Granted the Grey commander I want a lot of if the belt/kama cna be swapped out for a regular belt. As well I want to build up the 501st trooper if it's teh SA version (Not the AT-TE gunner version). But that it really. I may get one of two Darktroopers. 1 for the coin, 1 to keep carded.
So for me, I'll actually be saving, believe it or not, despite teh army building.
It's not a bad subline though and we did get to pick most of what eventually ended up on the lsit to be made. So if it doesn't do well, we only have ourselves to blame.
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So if it doesn't do well, we only have ourselves to blame.
No, not really. We would have Hasbro repacking several nasty pegwarmers to blame. The rest of the figures I see being very popular.
ROTS Chewbacca
ROTS Yoda
ROTS Anakin (at this point hes getting to be as bad as Cantina Han)
500th Vader
TSC Boushh Leia
ROTS Obi-Wan Red Leader Pilot
ROTS 'Talking' R2-D2
I dont remember voting for any of those. :'( >:(
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Most of the figures in 1 & 2 weren''t voted for except the Shock & Fett, maybe 2 or 3 more.
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First shipments have seemed to sell well. No real peg warmers.
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I saw these in good numbers for the first time this weekend. I had only seen one figure (Yoda) at Target, but we traveled to the "across town" Wal-Mart and they had the entire first wave in stock. I picked up two AOTC clones, and would have picked up a couple more if I hadn't been spending so much lately with things shipping and finding the VTSC. The shocktrooper and ROTS trooper were tempting as well, but it was nice to get more of that spiffy AOTC clonetrooper. I never did see the original one on the pegs.
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First shipments have seemed to sell well. No real peg warmers.
As long as their aren't 500 more shipments to come, we'll be okay.
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So if it doesn't do well, we only have ourselves to blame.
No, not really. We would have Hasbro repacking several nasty pegwarmers to blame. The rest of the figures I see being very popular.
ROTS Chewbacca
ROTS Yoda
ROTS Anakin (at this point hes getting to be as bad as Cantina Han)
500th Vader
TSC Boushh Leia
ROTS Obi-Wan Red Leader Pilot
ROTS 'Talking' R2-D2
I dont remember voting for any of those. :'( >:(
Treu true. I didn't vote for them either. They've only just started showing up in my area and there a no reports yet of pegwarming. There are enough case revisions with the Legends line that phase out the specific characters yet keep in troops, so I think we'll be ok with this. May be some pegging, but hopefully not too bad.
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How do you get promoted to Jedi Knight?
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How do you get promoted to Jedi Knight?
You've got to go throught some hazing ritual... or pay good money.
You get promoted (to Knight, Master) after a certain amount of posts. I forget the number, but I'm sure that someone else can shed some light on it.
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How do you get promoted to Jedi Knight?
Castration, followed by a pie eating contest.
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How do you get promoted to Jedi Knight?
The guidelines are stickied in the newbies section:
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=343.0
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I picked up a set of Battle Droids at Target the other day - just $7.64 for the two pack. >:( How is it that TAC sells for $6.99, but rehashed Legends cost $7.64?
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You went to a new/remodeled store didn't you? Let me guess the one in Medina?
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You went to a new/remodeled store didn't you? Let me guess the one in Medina?
Or Knollwood... home of the $2.99 TAC figures for about a week. :-\ Too bad they caught on.
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You went to a new/remodeled store didn't you? Let me guess the one in Medina?
yeah, you can only get ripped off like that at Medina or Knollwood...the Target closest to my house and closest to my work. :-\
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Sirsteve has pics up of wave 3 and the Darktrooper has a gold coin. Is that an UGH or is just becuase it was the #1 pick?
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Sirsteve has pics up of wave 3 and the Darktrooper has a gold coin. Is that an UGH or is just becuase it was the #1 pick?
It's non-UGH, and not listed in the 12 known UGH.
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Sirsteve has pics up of wave 3 and the Darktrooper has a gold coin. Is that an UGH or is just becuase it was the #1 pick?
It's non-UGH, and not listed in the 12 known UGH.
Scalpers will see gold and think UGH, so it's going to be just as difficult to track down IMO..
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Sirsteve has pics up of wave 3 and the Darktrooper has a gold coin. Is that an UGH or is just becuase it was the #1 pick?
It's non-UGH, and not listed in the 12 known UGH.
Scalpers will see gold and think UGH, so it's going to be just as difficult to track down IMO..
No!
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Scalpers will see gold and think UGH, so it's going to be just as difficult to track down IMO..
Maybe, but there's going to be a lot of Darktroopers, as opposed to the UGH. The "scalpers" won't be able to keep up.
I guess I really can't relate because the scalping boogeymen have never once stopped me from obtaining any figure in the quantity that I want it at retail. I just have too many Targets, Walmart, TRU, and KB around here for them to beat me out everywhere all at once. I win, and I win all the time.
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Actually, the gold coin on the Darktrooper makes it a double whammy. Not only will scalpers pick it up believing its UGH, but it's an army builder as well (not to state the obvious.)
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The Dark Trooper looks like a straight re-pack of the POTF2 version. Which makes this an easy pass for me.
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The Dark Trooper looks like a straight re-pack of the POTF2 version. Which makes this an easy pass for me.
But... but... The coin?? You gotta get the coin! :-\
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Coins? We don't need no stinkin' coins! I already have a nice squad of Dark Troopers. :D
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I've had two Darktroopers in my life. I think I'll pick up 7 or so of this rehash to make a nice Squad. A boyhood dream, it is!
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I'm actually stoked at the chance for DarkTrooper custom fodder... I've had this dream of making a full removable suit of Darktrooper armor for figures, so that's pretty cool to me. If I wind up with extra coins, I'll be putting them up for people I'm sure...
And man I'm loving the opportunity to buy SA AOTC style Clones...
Wholely separate point I know, but I just wanted to express that. I've gotten 8 so far, and I look forward to nabbing more at some point. Outstanding figure that I just didn't have near enough of.
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DarkTrooper custom fodder
:o
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And man I'm loving the opportunity to buy SA AOTC style Clones...
Wholely separate point I know, but I just wanted to express that. I've gotten 8 so far, and I look forward to nabbing more at some point. Outstanding figure that I just didn't have near enough of.
I had NONE before this, all were Sneak Preview, so this is great for me, too, as Im just discovering its greatness. Im at two so far but they seem pretty easy to find in my area this time around. Ill be aiming for at least ten. ;D
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I don't know if anyone has noticed this or not, but I picked up some of the Battle Droids 2-pack over the weekend and found that there is a variation to the OOM-9 version. I'll try and get some pictures up tomorrow. Anyway on the package it shows a yellow dot on the chest and one set I picked up there is not dot as the others have the dot. Just a heads up for you variation hunters out there.
roron corobb
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I don't know if anyone has noticed this or not, but I picked up some of the Battle Droids 2-pack over the weekend and found that there is a variation to the OOM-9 version. I'll try and get some pictures up tomorrow. Anyway on the package it shows a yellow dot on the chest and one set I picked up there is not dot as the others have the dot. Just a heads up for you variation hunters out there.
roron corobb
Thats proabaly just an error not a variation. I'm an error collector however and am very interested in it if you wanna get rid of it shoot me a pm i'll pay or trade well lol
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I don't know if anyone has noticed this or not, but I picked up some of the Battle Droids 2-pack over the weekend and found that there is a variation to the OOM-9 version. I'll try and get some pictures up tomorrow. Anyway on the package it shows a yellow dot on the chest and one set I picked up there is not dot as the others have the dot. Just a heads up for you variation hunters out there.
roron corobb
Thats proabaly just an error not a variation. I'm an error collector however and am very interested in it if you wanna get rid of it shoot me a pm i'll pay or trade well lol
I was going to recheck Wal-Mart today and see if I find any more like that. As I only picked up 3 and only 1 is like that. They have about 5 cases of the Legends, so I'm wondering if it was a case or just one and only.
roron corobb
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Seems this first wave of Legends is doing pretty well at retail in my area. Not too many stores have gotten in mass quantities of them, but each time a case is put out, all that really seems to be left after the first day is Vader.
The Battle Droid 2-pk is nice, but I think my favorite figure of the wave is the EP2 SA Clone. The armor is more of a pure white than the original CW offering, and of course it's nice that they included peg holes for his feet.
:P
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I'm up to 3 of the EPII clones so far, while I agree with Chewie it's nice to have tidy whitey EPII clones the original CW seem better made. Of the 3 I bought the heads are too lose and spin/fall too easily, that and the left hand seem gimpy.
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There really hasn't been much of the Saga Legends around here yet. A few weeks ago, while we were at the "across town" Wal-Mart (which was being renovated), I found a whole mess of these and picked up 3 AOTC clonetroopers. Since that was around the time I had bought a lot of other stuff, I passed on the rest. I kind of wish now I had picked up at least one Shocktrooper, but its no biggie I guess. Aside from that find, I haven't seen a single Saga Legends figure at any of the stores (2 Targets, Wal-Mart, TRU). I think that the TSC figures might be some of the hold-up around here though, so we'll see how the rest of the year goes.
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I'm up to 3 of the EPII clones so far, while I agree with Chewie it's nice to have tidy whitey EPII clones the original CW seem better made. Of the 3 I bought the heads are too lose and spin/fall too easily, that and the left hand seem gimpy.
Really? If you're liking the old one better, perhaps we can make a trade. 8)
:P
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I'm up to 3 of the EPII clones so far, while I agree with Chewie it's nice to have tidy whitey EPII clones the original CW seem better made. Of the 3 I bought the heads are too lose and spin/fall too easily, that and the left hand seem gimpy.
Easy fix for the head. Just post it off and add a drop or 2 of superglue to the ball. Wait until dry then replace the head. Head will be much tighter. I would place the drops on the side of the ball, but that is your choice.
I haven't had any problems with my EII or EIII clones. They both are great.
roron corobb
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For anyone looking, as of right now, HTS.com has both the Saga Legends Episode II Clonetrooper and Shocktrooper in stock.
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Are the red Battle Droids out yet?
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No. The red droid 2-pack is shipping in Wave 2, which I haven't seen anyone report finding yet...
Of course, by typing this response it means that someone will find them in the next few days. :P
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Of course, by typing this response it means that someone will find them in the next few days. :P
Hears hoping i hate the down time, i usually end up buying something to tide me over thats too expensive
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Wave 2 should be showing up this week or next. My source gets stuff about 3-4 weeks before the US and they've had them for about 3-4 weeks now.
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How come they made all of the pegwarmers and that were form the saga collection i mean i really wanted them to repack coleman trebor but no they have to repack anakin >:( ???
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No. The red droid 2-pack is shipping in Wave 2, which I haven't seen anyone report finding yet...
Of course, by typing this response it means that someone will find them in the next few days. :P
Really? That saves me some effort. But I've only seen the Commander and Battle Droid 2-pack so far. No sign of the blasted or sliced versions in my neck of the woods yet.
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I saw some Wave 2 Legends this morning - Liea in Bousch disguise, Destroyer Droid, and Obi-Wan Pilot. Obviously, all passes but it seems that this wave has at least started to hit retail.
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and i could have sworn to God hasbro showed CDN cards of this series.
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I saw some Wave 2 Legends this morning - Liea in Bousch disguise, Destroyer Droid, and Obi-Wan Pilot. Obviously, all passes but it seems that this wave has at least started to hit retail.
What retailer and in what state please?
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What retailer and in what state please?
I can't speak for Brent (I think he's in the mid-west), but the store reports that have been mailed to me from various JD readers have said Target and most of those were West Coast locations - CA & AZ.
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I've only seen WM reports myself, but I'm glad to hear Target is getting them too.
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NewForce is now shipping Wave 2 and Wave 2.5 (also called Wave 2, Revision 1).
Should be hitting all over the place very soon I'd think...
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I saw some Wave 2 Legends this morning - Liea in Bousch disguise, Destroyer Droid, and Obi-Wan Pilot. Obviously, all passes but it seems that this wave has at least started to hit retail.
What retailer and in what state please?
Walmart - Chicagoland
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Jedijaybird picked up the Sandtrooper today in Minnesota. So they're starting to sprout up.
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I picked up the Sandtrooper, Red Battle Droids and the 501st yesterday. I like the paint change-up on the Sandtrooper. It's kind of neat to see the paint application from one mold placed on another. As for the 501st, I hadn't planned on picking one up, but seeing that the feet were clean, it was a good enough variation for me to pick up one.
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:( Saw them today at least the remnants anyway all the good stuff was taken. Taget S. Calif
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Athony, was this still the AT-TE gunner mold, or the #41, or a new mold?
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I found wave 2 at WM: Boba, 501(AT-TE style) and sandtrooper. The BD were the same as before no reds in sight. The weird thing Boba rang up for $5.00 and the rest $6.63. check you receipt and let me know if this is a isolated incident. I was not planning on buying a 501 until the #41 style was available but the bright white molding and improved paint job sucked me in.
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Sal, Gunner body.
I think it's important to note that I've seen two cases now and both were the revision case without the Chewie and Destroyer Droid.
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Sal, Gunner body.
I thought this was supposed to be the SA version. Basically a clean Appo minus pauldron. Bummer! Now instead of twelve I will only be picking up around four. I hope we get an explanation for this! :(
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Sal, Gunner body.
I thought this was supposed to be the SA version. Basically a clean Appo minus pauldron. Bummer! Now instead of twelve I will only be picking up around four. I hope we get an explanation for this! :(
there was one on RS. they said it will be a running change though. so we(You) will get the SA version..eventually
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Oh...thats weird. But it works for me, as long as I get my SA 501st's!
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If you can find it ;)
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Saw reminents of Wave 2 at Target today - Leia (Bousch) and Obi Pilot
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Saw wave 2 today. Picked up a sandtrooper. They had destroyers, chewie, obiwan pilot. Pretty much the entire wave 2. All jaming the pegs. Now we will never see wave 4 of the regular line! :'(
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Found a SL Sandy at Ontario Mills Target..it was stashed under some Spiderman Junk.
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Is VOTC Boba in Wave 2? He is one of the 4-5 figs in this line that I'm very, very excited to pick up.
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Is VOTC Boba in Wave 2?
Yes.
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Our local TRU appeared to have gotten Wave 2, but of course the ones I wanted were already gone (Fett, Sandtrooper, 501st).
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The 501st is hanging around more than I thought. I knew people are going to favor the SA one over the current Tank Gunner release, but I didn't think to the point of almost ignoring the Gunner body.
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When is the SA 501st coming out? Is that a later Legends Wave?
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In a wave 3 revision and in wave 4 for sure.
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Although things can certainly turn around, the concerns about these overtaking pegs from the "regular" TAC line aren't a problem so far - at least around here. TRU is really the only store that is even stocking Legends at all (seeing them for the first time this weekend) around here. Target has TAC figures and older TSC on the pegs, and Wal-Mart has nothing but TSC figures - a solid wall that isn't going anywhere soon. Its amazing to think that it is August, and our local WM still hasn't had a single 2007 figure on the pegs. Not that I mind avoiding WM on shopping trips now :). Like I said, things can and probably will change, but right now the Legends line is pretty rare around here. Not that TAC has been in great abundance outside of a handful of figures anyways.
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I've seen the same thing. I actually think it's a good thing. Up to this point, I've been able to get the SL stuff that I've wanted, but it's not been clogging the pegs like GB did last year. That being said, this may make it tough for me to get Darkrtrooper, the colored clone varieties, RA-7, and TC-14, all in one wave later on... :-\
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As I've said before in this thread, while Hasbro might be able to claim that the 30AC and Legends figures are under different SKUs and therefore not a theoretical hindrance to one another, the fact remains that the 2007 Saga Legends figures ARE under the same SKU as the 2006 Saga Collection. By using the same SKU, the pegs that are stuffed full of Jerjerrods, Endor Threepios, GB Padmes, and (insert your favorite pegwarmer here), are, in fact, keeping the 2007 Saga Legends from showing up at retail.
Again, whether Hasbro will admit it or not, when a Wal-Mart stock person looks at the eight pegs allotted to Star Wars and sees them jammed full of figures, whether they're 100 different characters or 100 of the same character, they just read it as "FULL" and no restocking takes place. When Wal-Mart's computers read the SKU and see that they have 100 figures on hand, they don't reorder. So, those 100 Jerjerrods and Threepios not only keep the 30AC stuff that may or may not be in the stockroom from being put out on the Wal-Mart stock person level, but it also keeps the Saga Legends stuff from even being ordered at all.
If Hasbro wants to clear up the issues people are having with retail right now, they should:
1. Do a recall of ALL 2006 Saga Collection figures still at retail, regardless of who they are, how many of them there are, or where they are, and give stores credit for those figures (just like in the Episode I days)
2. Issue a new SKU for the Saga Legends figures that is totally separate from the 2006 TSC SKU. I realize that could be difficult at this point with the SKU still in use, but maybe change it for Wave 3 so that way retail won't have a backlog of 2006 figures and they'll be getting Saga Legends stuff.
3. Actually, you know, ship figures to stores in decent case ratios and in a timely fashion instead of letting three months pass between shipments and/or stockings.
Seriously, Hasbro, the retail situation is horrible right now for basic figures and is reaching a level (if it hasn't reached it already) that approximates the post-TPM and AOTC basic figure gluts.
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Wave 2 is all but done for me. I should upgrade my Sandtrooper card, but I've managed to track down a complete set.
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I haven't seen ANY of Wave 2 yet. All I really want are maybe a couple Sandtroopers and definitely Boba Fett.
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Funny site today at a local target. I had my choice between two packaging variants of the same figure - Saga2 Princess Leia in Bousch Disguise or Saga Legends (TAC Style) Princess Leia in Bousch Disguise. They were sitting right next to each other on the pegs. How's that for product distribution!
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yeah she was an odd choice for a re-release. Hasbro should have went with a different Leia.
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Funny site today at a local target. I had my choice between two packaging variants of the same figure - Saga2 Princess Leia in Bousch Disguise or Saga Legends (TAC Style) Princess Leia in Bousch Disguise. They were sitting right next to each other on the pegs. How's that for product distribution!
I've seen the same thing multiple times, only with C3-PO w/Battle Droid Head. It's really more sad than funny, but I still laugh to myself whenever I see stuff like that.
yeah she was an odd choice for a re-release. Hasbro should have went with a different Leia.
Yep. VOTC Princess Leia would've made much more sense. :P
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Got a sandtrooper today. This is probably the best dirt wash yet done for a Sandie... not too much like the Evolutions version, but more than the Saga2 version. Very nice!
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This is probably the best dirt wash yet done for a Sandie... not too much like the Evolutions version, but more than the Saga2 version.
It actually reminds me of my attempt to clean an "extra dirty" Evo Sandie. I wasn't too successful, but made a bit of a difference that resembles this one.
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You have to love scalpers. I remember someone here saying that scalpers would see the gold coin on the Dark Trooper and assume it is a UGH. Who ever said it was right.
Dark Trooper ::) (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-LEGENDS-DARK-TROOPER-GALACTIC-HUNT-GOLD-COIN_W0QQitemZ110160467791QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2476QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
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Sirsteve has pics up of wave 3 and the Darktrooper has a gold coin. Is that an UGH or is just becuase it was the #1 pick?
It's non-UGH, and not listed in the 12 known UGH.
Scalpers will see gold and think UGH, so it's going to be just as difficult to track down IMO..
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You have to love scalpers. I remember someone here saying that scalpers would see the gold coin on the Dark Trooper and assume it is a UGH. Who ever said it was right.
Dark Trooper ::) (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-LEGENDS-DARK-TROOPER-GALACTIC-HUNT-GOLD-COIN_W0QQitemZ110160467791QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2476QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
**** **** **** **** ****... The DT's easily my most wanted figure in the entire 30AC line...
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Has anyone found the SA version of the 501st Clone Trooper yet? I'm curious to see what the production version will look like. So far I've only seen the AT-TE Tank Gunner repaint.
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I saw only the Tank Gunner repaint recently as well...
Love that Dark Trooper scalper's name online too. "Collector's Connection"... Fantastic. Funny how people wouldn't NEED his "connection" if it weren't for people just like him. $50 too? Nice and cheap he is.
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Someone in Florida over at scum has pictures of their retail wave 3 score and NFC says they're finished shipping out their wave 3 allocation.
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Uh... Wave 3 is out? I haven't seen any Legends figs since I found a lone case of Wave 1 in mid-June...
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Uh... Wave 3 is out? I haven't seen any Legends figs since I found a lone case of Wave 1 in mid-June...
Don't worry... the last wave will be out tomorrow so the pegs will be warm with legends and no wave 4. :'(
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Nice thing about wave three is that there are a lot of sellable figures. Should move pretty well.
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Wave 3? Sheesh - I'm still looking for my openers of wave 2... :-[
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I was looking at my Saga Legends Wave 3 figures tonight as I was putting away some carded figures and I noticed a variation in the RotS Clone Commander figure - he comes with either a gummi Clone Rifle or the Evo Sandtrooper Cannon:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/legends_clonecommvariant.jpg)
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Neat find Jeff. I really like that Sandtrooper rifle.
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Thanks for posting that Jeff. It's very helpful to know there's a variant out there. I'll be after the regular rifle version myself, but won't mind picking up a few of the Sandtrooper rifle version either.
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FYI, Curto mentioned that the one with the Sandtrooper rifle is a first run error.
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According to AP (Adam Pawlus,) it seems we might not be getting the 501st in SA form this year. :( Care to shed any more light Adam?
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What Adam was talking about was changes that Hasbro has made to upcoming case assortments.
There were two upcoming cases that were supposed to contain the 501st Trooper - Wave 3, Revision 2 and Wave 4, Revision 2. But, the ratio changed for both those cases and now neither case is scheduled to contain a 501st trooper (replaced by an R2-D2 and Destroyer Droid, respectively).
So, that means that after the Wave 2 cases ship (with the #65 sculpt 501st), there will not be a 501st slotted in a case until at least Wave 5, which isn't due until Nov/Dec. It's easy to see how Nov/Dec could slip to "next year", especially if Hasbro adjusts those cases as well...
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Anyone else ******** their pants at the thoughts of the Black Pauldron Stormtrooper/Sandtrooper coming out? Ultimate army builder to me since you get all the gear for a Sandtrooper but you get the cleanliness of a Stormtrooper... I'm geeked over that one.
In general though, I've liked what we've got already... The grey pauldron has a grand paintjob. I'm looking forward to all these though. Wish we were getting a white pauldron is all, as it's sorely needed at this point. Much moreso than the orange pauldron for sure. New weapons would've been neat too here and there... Again, more than we needed the stick again. ;)
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I just think it stinks that I had to clean all those Saga Sandies and now we're getting a clean one. :P
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I just think it stinks that I had to clean all those Saga Sandies and now we're getting a clean one. :P
You did that too?
I cleaned them to be Stormtroopers...but didn't get to clean them all and now I'm stuck with about a dozen extra loose Sandies that I don't want as sandies but neither want to spend the time cleaning them to be stormtroopers...what to do. (I still have all the accessories of course to each figure.)
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I just think it stinks that I had to clean all those Saga Sandies and now we're getting a clean one. :P
You did that too?
Cleaned over 70 of them. :-X
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I just think it stinks that I had to clean all those Saga Sandies and now we're getting a clean one. :P
You did that too?
Cleaned over 70 of them. :-X
Cripes, that'a a butt load of sandies...I collect like this too though, just not sandies. I think I cleaned about a dozen and a half before I gave up cleaning the rest that I had to be converted to Stormtroopers.
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Anyone finding Wave 3 Legends yet? We had a sighting a few weeks ago in Minneapolis, but nothing since.
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Anyone finding Wave 3 Legends yet? We had a sighting a few weeks ago in Minneapolis ST PAUL, but nothing since.
I think it was a freak sighting perhaps, but I'm lovin the Dark Trooper...Not the figure so much, but he looks really spiffy on the card, plus the gold coin is nice on the eyes. :)
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Anyone finding Wave 3 Legends yet? We had a sighting a few weeks ago in Minneapolis ST PAUL, but nothing since.
Yeah, it was St. Paul - none of this "Minneapolis" crap. Damn West-Siders... ::)
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So far, no wave 3 here and barely any wave 2. Wave 1, widely abundant save for the red clone.
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Bikerscout1 called to tell me he found a red AOTC clone at a Target I had visited that morning. I hope that's a good sign.
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Just noticed that HTS now has Saga Legends figures such as Boba Fett, Darktrooper, Pit Droids, colored AOTC clones and more currently in stock.
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Dark trooper sold out :-[ If i was sure i would get all the different colored clones and pits i would order.
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I'm going to order at least 2 of the Clone Troopers if and when I order the McVader and McSnowtrooper. If there was a way to guarantee the 4 colors, I'd get 2 of each... Too bad on the Dark Trooper being sold out too, I would have liked at least 1 of those.
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Does anyone know if RA-7 and TC-14 are in stock yet?
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Does anyone know if RA-7 and TC-14 are in stock yet?
No listings yet.
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Darktrooper and Clone Commander are back in stock.
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Darktrooper and Clone Commander are back in stock.
Good tip. I nabbed 4 because that gold coin is going to attract the scalper ilk like flies to **** at the brick and mortar stores.
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Darktrooper is sold out now.
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i missed it again :-[
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Does anyone know if RA-7 and TC-14 are in stock yet?
No listings yet.
These are also in later waves, so don't expect them any time soon.
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I received an order from HTS.com today for a few Saga Legends figures, and for those who are interested the "Clone Trooper Officer" figure I received was the yellow striped version - for anyone thinking about ordering from there. I'm not sure if they are all yellow, or if it is random, but I thought I'd order one to see - and that's what I received.
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I ordered a couple last week as well and receive the Yellow (commander) version.
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Any word on what the hold up is on Wave 3 at retail? Jeff found that case several weeks ago, but I haven't heard of anything showing up since. The Target closest to my house has had that gray dot on the Legends pegs for the better part of a month now.
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One of my Targets got one wave three case with the red commander. They've been putting out wave 3 ever since.
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Wait for the sales, TRU & Target, to be over then you'll start seeing the new. ;)
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Saw some pieces from wave 4 today at retail. Namely the Biker Scout, TC-14 and Clone Trooper Sergeant. But I still haven't seen the pieces I want the most, like the Pit Droids, most of the running changes on the Battle Droids and the SA version of the 501st Clone Trooper.
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Found a lone maroon BD 2 pack on the pegs this evening at WM. First time I've seen this variant.
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I got my order from HTS. I got a yellow clone and tan pit droids even though the red ones are pictured.
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Saw some pieces from wave 4 today at retail. Namely the Biker Scout, TC-14 and Clone Trooper Sergeant.
That's news. Where did you see them?
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At a mom & pop shop. Not one of the chains. They deal directly with a Hasbro rep.
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Saw some pieces from wave 4 today at retail. Namely the Biker Scout, TC-14 and Clone Trooper Sergeant.
That's news. Where did you see them?
I found the Biker Scout, red Pit Droids, blonde IO, yellow Clone Officer, and shot up Battle Droids tonight at WM. No TC-14 though. Found the UGH Darktrooper Legends assortments en masse as well. Good stuff!
Now if I could just find the Legends checklist to figure out where the hell I stand right now, that'd be great...
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Now if I could just find the Legends checklist to figure out where the hell I stand right now, that'd be great...
Checklist. (http://www.rebelscum.com/TACsagalegends.asp)
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RS has Q&A news on the SA 501st (and some other pieces):
Rebelscum: Speaking of Saga Legends, what's the status on the Saga Legends 501st Clone Trooper (SA mold), the Sandtrooper Sergeant (Evolutions mold), and the Pit Droids (sitting mold with locker)? Is it possible to reveal what case assortments these variants will be in?
Hasbro: We have some news. The Sandtrooper using the Evolution tool will be shipping starting with assortment 85770000W, and is expected to hit shelves around January.
We have seen first shots of the Pit Droids with bent-leg stance, and full production figures will be out on shelves in March, with all three color versions rolling out through until the end of Spring.
The 501st is a little murkier. While we have asked to switch this figure out for the SA Clone, we have yet to see a sample. We believe the reason is that we are running the SA clone at full capacity elsewhere and our Asian team has not had the ability to switch production. We are still confirming and are hopeful that this switch will happen but cannot confirm when it will take place.
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I know it's hard to say for sure since SL wave's 3 and 4 are just starting to hit, but for those who are worried about certain figures being scalped, my observation this week has been that the scalpers are after the UGH and McQuarries mainly. I say this because when seeing them have the choice, they leave the Darktrooper and all the other Legends behind, but take the UGH and McQuarries.
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I would think that the scalpers would see that gold EU coin that comes with the Darktrooper and scoop them up on that basis alone. I've still yet to see one at retail.
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I would think that the scalpers would see that gold EU coin that comes with the Darktrooper and scoop them up on that basis alone. I've still yet to see one at retail.
I thought the same thing. Most "scalpers" probably don't know the difference, so it seems that they would grab the Darktrooper. I'd be willing to bet that Darky is actually harder to find than a lot of the UGH due to his troop building potential.
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I got a red Clone tonight... Quite slick. Got that and the Imp. Officer, mostly for the coin, which I needed... A nice couple figures, but no DT's for good reason. Seems this is what I miss consitantly on any visit:
-SL Darktrooper
-SL Pit Droids
-CZ-4
-Ani-Fett
-McQuarrie Figures (anything at this point, but obviously wave 4 & 5 are really hot here)
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Around me, where scalpers once weren't quite such a problem, apparantly now the guys that are into other toys *cough*hotwheels*cough* are now hitting the SW aisle real quick for the "rare" items to hock. Or so goes what I've heard from others, and finding the HTF thing is definitely a bigger pain this year than in years past for me. Legends is facing the same fate though... The Pit Droids seemingly have caught people's attention as something everyone wanted with variations, and the DT I agree (about the coin that Nick said) is gonna go early, if for no other reason than a casualty of having the wrong colored pack-in.
Very frustrating, but I've seen wave 4/5 and Legends lately, but always missing a lot of figures from it that people call "rare".
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So, anyone know the deal with the clean white paldron Sandie? That's a surprise.
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So, anyone know the deal with the clean white paldron Sandie? That's a surprise.
You mean like this one, that CHEWIE just found (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=15522.msg325576#msg325576)...?
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/100407stormie.jpg)
Yep, looks like a definite (intentional) variant there. I dig the fact that they're making the Sandies both clean and dirty. I'm guessing they'll do a clean one for every color that they're doing a dirty one for. Twice the variants, for double the cost. But will it ever end?!? Oy. Makin' my head spin, all this stuff is...
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So, anyone know the deal with the clean white paldron Sandie? That's a surprise.
Found one at Walmart a few days ago. So they are getting out there.
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Is this one assigned to a specific case?
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That I'm not sure of Anthony, it was already on the shelf when I got mine.
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So, anyone know the deal with the clean white paldron Sandie? That's a surprise.
I found one too. I didn't take note of the numbering on the case.
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I'm glad there's some variation in the Sandtrooper ranks, but the cleanliness doesn't quite look right to me. I guess as a sort of EU trooper on a cleaner world than Tatooine. I could use an extra of the variant Imperial Officer though. I'm just satisfied that Legends is doing reasonably well considering the re-used figures.
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Agreed, though I wish it would ship in greater quantities. We're only W2 in Minnesota and the pegs are usually pretty barren.
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Picked up a pair of Dark Troopers from Khols today.
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Just as a heads up for people, I received an order from HTS today and I took a chance and ordered the Sandtrooper listed in their TSC section (although shown with a coin, it says "Mos Eisley" I believe) and it did end up being the Legends Sandtrooper with Orange Pauldron. I was hoping that would be the case, since that was the Sandtrooper I really wanted to get a hold of. I don't know if it will always work out that way or not, but I just thought I'd let people know.
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JediJman found wave 4 at Target, so keep your eyes peeled.
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JediJman found wave 4 at Target, so keep your eyes peeled.
Yep, wave 4 is shipping, but I found it at Wal-Mart (yesterday). The Targets in my area suck ass.
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Wave 4 reports have been coming in from Target, TRU, and Wal-Mart since the weekend, so they all appear to be getting them now...
The only odd part is that reports of the Blonde Imp Officer, who is supposed to be in those wave 4 cases, are few and far between. Most folks are finding more of the first version brownish haired Imp Officer from Wave 3 instead. Blondie must not have been ready when they first started filling the cases...
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I've seen all three Imperial Officers. I've just passed on buying them all since I got my fill back in the POTJ and SAGA days.
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Wave 4 reports have been coming in from Target, TRU, and Wal-Mart since the weekend, so they all appear to be getting them now...
The only odd part is that reports of the Blonde Imp Officer, who is supposed to be in those wave 4 cases, are few and far between. Most folks are finding more of the first version brownish haired Imp Officer from Wave 3 instead. Blondie must not have been ready when they first started filling the cases...
I haven't heard much about Target finds in a while so that's good to hear. I'll probably swing by Target today if I have time on my lunch.
As for the blonde officer, I did see about 5 of them at one Walmart about two weeks ago, but none since.
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I've found the blond in the wave 4 case. Haven't seen the third one yet.
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It looks like HTS has/had Wave 4 in stock, but I missed the droids. They did (and still do) have the Biker Scouts in stock, so I ordered a couple of those along with some other stuff. Its hard not to go nuts with the Scouts, that's one of my favorite figures of all time I think. We've really gotten some nice Imperial troops out of the lines lately, now hopefully they can get to the Rebel troops.
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Still no restocking on the droids, but the Darktrooper i sback in stock. I ordered 1.
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I just got the darktrooper at HTS. Thanks for the headsup.
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I can't keep these damn things straight... I'm up to 3 different battle droids versions, 2 different pit droids versions, the shocktrooper, maul, 2 Sandtroopers, Blue Clone, Yellow Clone, Dark Trooper, Saesee Tiin... Still looking for another Pit Droids or two? Another Sandtrooper or two... an SA 501st if that ends up happening, the Red clone...
This crap is out of hand.
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Scout Troopers are available at HTS again.
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Scout Troopers are available at HTS again.
And just like that they are gone again. :-\ Missed out on the Darkies earlier too, but I did manage to get a couple of Clone Commanders on the cheap. Here's hoping they have the Sandtrooper rifle.
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Darktrooper up again at Hasbroshop (9:05 pdt) ;D
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I'm glad there's some variation in the Sandtrooper ranks, but the cleanliness doesn't quite look right to me. I guess as a sort of EU trooper on a cleaner world than Tatooine.
Now see, I've never understood the dirtiness on the Tatooine sandtroopers anyway. You'd only get that much dirt to stick to the armor if there was mud ... implying the presence of water. There's no mud on Tatooine, it's just ... sand. ???
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I can't keep these damn things straight... I'm up to 3 different battle droids versions, 2 different pit droids versions, the shocktrooper, maul, 2 Sandtroopers, Blue Clone, Yellow Clone, Dark Trooper, Saesee Tiin... Still looking for another Pit Droids or two? Another Sandtrooper or two... an SA 501st if that ends up happening, the Red clone...
This crap is out of hand.
I hear you on that Rob, and this is my understanding of what's out (but I'm not positive on what's COMING out)
-3 Battledroid Variants (Commander & Grunt-Cream, Shot/Sliced-Red, Shot/Sliced-Cream)
-3 Pit Droid Variants (Cream w/Grey Markings, Cream w/Orange Markings, Reddish-Brown Overall Color)
-4 Clone (AOTC) Officer Variants (Gold, Green, Red, Blue)
-4 (as of now) Sandtrooper variants (Orange Pauldron w/Dirt Spray, Grey Pauldron w/Heavy Dirt Paint, White Pauldron Clean, Black Pauldron Clean)
Indeed it's out of hand though. The Green Clone was unnecessary at the moment since he was out last year. I'd say nix the gold commander too but that's me. Black Pauldron Sandtroopers seem unnecessary to me too, since last year's figure. I like the clean white trooper though because it's good for a stormtrooper and gives you pauldrons for your potential army from last year to mix some up.
And there's the Evolutions/E3 Clone Officer "variant' that has a clone rifle and one with the big sandtrooper rifle.... Technically, that wasn't an intended variant by Hasbro though, they screwed that up. Yet there is no variant on this figure with the film-accurate yellow markings for a Felucia Clone... Go figure. ::)
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There were 4 Battle Droid Varients at one point, the 4th being a clean/tan pair. Has that been canceled?
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Thanks for the break-down Jesse, I could be wrong but I think there are going to be 4 Battle Droid sets, 4 Pit Droid sets, and at least one evolutions sculpt sandtrooper added to the mix, maybe 2.
But what the hell do I know anyway? ???
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Just to be clear, JJ's list is only the stuff that is out so far...
this is my understanding of what's out (but I'm not positive on what's COMING out)
As he said, he wasn't sure of all the upcoming intentional variants. I have been trying to keep track, and here's what my list look like:
Out Now (waves 1 - 4):
- 501st Legion Trooper [v1 - RotS #65 sculpt, clean)
- Battle Droid 2-Pack [v1 - Tan, OOM-9]
- Battle Droid 2-Pack [v2 - Maroon, Battle Damage]
- Battle Droid 2-Pack [v3 - Tan, Battle Damage]
- Clone Trooper Officer [v1 - Yellow]
- Clone Trooper Officer [v2 - Red]
- Clone Trooper Officer [v3 - Blue]
- Clone Trooper Officer [v4 - Green]
- Imperial Officer [v1 - Black Hair]
- Imperial Officer [v2 - Blonde Hair]
- Imperial Officer [v3 - Dark Hair]
- Pit Droid 2-Pack [v1 - white/gray, standing, toolbox 2]
- Pit Droid 2-Pack [v2 - red/brown, standing, toolbox 2]
- Sandtrooper [v1 - Saga-037, White Pauldron, dirty]
- Sandtrooper [v2 - Saga-037, Orange Pauldron, dirty]
- Sandtrooper [v2 - Saga-037, White Pauldron, clean]
Confirmed, But Not Out Yet (waves 5 - ?):
- 501st Legion Trooper [v2 - RotS #41 sculpt, clean]
- Battle Droids [v4 - Tan, Clean & Dirty]
- Pit Droid 2-Pack [v3 - beige/orange, standing, toolbox 2]
- Sandtrooper [v4 - Saga-037, Black Pauldron, clean]
- Sandtrooper [v5 - Evo sculpt, Orange Pauldron, ?]
And finally, there are these figures are rumored by RS, but there is no definite info or picture confirmation yet... :-\
- Pit Droid 2-Pack [v4 - white/gray, seated, toolbox 1]
- Pit Droid 2-Pack [v5 - red/brown, seated, toolbox 1]
- Pit Droid 2-Pack [v6 - beige/orange, seated, toolbox 1]
- Sandtrooper [v? - Saga-037, Orange Pauldron, clean]
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I had heard the seated pit droids are due out as part of the '08 line.
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So far, all I have seen as far as EII clones go are the red and blue variants, w2hich I have picked up. Since I missed out on the EE 4packs way back when these are a welcome addition for me.
Can anyone confirm teh yellow and green ones? So far I have not seen hidce nor hair of either.
For once, in my town I can't swing a dead cat without hitting a clone of some kind, and I gotta tell you it's pretty nice to be able to buy them again.
What I am ticked off about however is not being able to find the TC-14 and the RA-7 both continue to elude me. :(
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So far, all I have seen as far as EII clones go are the red and blue variants, w2hich I have picked up. Since I missed out on the EE 4packs way back when these are a welcome addition for me.
Can anyone confirm teh yellow and green ones? So far I have not seen hidce nor hair of either.
Yes there are yellow and green ones. I have them.
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Sweet! Thanks for the hads up Vlad now I know I wasn't searching in vain. ;D
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No problemo! I'm sure they'll pop up soon in your neighborhood. ;)
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My head is hurting again with all these variants... :-\
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My head is hurting again with all these variants... :-\
And probably the pocketbook.
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So far, all I have seen as far as EII clones go are the red and blue variants, w2hich I have picked up. Since I missed out on the EE 4packs way back when these are a welcome addition for me.
Can anyone confirm teh yellow and green ones? So far I have not seen hidce nor hair of either.
Yes there are yellow and green ones. I have them.
I have all four as well, with Green and Blue only showing up once for me. If you've got different locations to check out, I've seen Yellow and Red at TRU, Green and Yellow at Target, Yellow and Blue at Wal-Mart. ;)
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Just a heads up for the carded collectors out there:
I was sorting through my Saga Legends figures today and found a variation between my two Orange Pauldron Sandtroopers. One has "Fan's Choice" sticker on the front and the other says "Fans' Choice." :o
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11:15PM CT - Darktrooper back in stock at HTS:
DarkTrooper (http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=495&SBR=78&ST=SO&ID=19378&PG=1)
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I'm sure it didn't stay in stock very long...
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Did the droids go back in stock or was it just the darktrooper. I see the colored clones are out of stock, missed those.
Darktrooper back in stock (http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=495&SBR=78&ST=SO&ID=19378&PG=3)
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RA-7, R4-I9 and TC-14 are in stock at HTS.
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Update: RA-7 and TC-14 are sold out for now.
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Missed RA-7 and R4-19 again. :-[
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Update: RA-7 and TC-14 are sold out for now.
Dang, I would have picked those up.
Interesting to see that the Dark Trooper is STILL in stock.
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Not anymore, Dark Trooper is sold out again.
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Not anymore, Dark Trooper is sold out again.
And he's back in stock again. ;D
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Well I think I'm about done ordering with HTS. The first oder (2 gray ARCs) came in a box that was too small for them, cards completely bent in half.
The second order, had a little packaging but were still rattling around in the box, and the Yellow clones I ordered were blue. Which does me no good at all. It sure would have been nice if they'd have mentioned that the colors won't necessarily be what's in the pictures, somewhere on the website.
I'm assuming that the red pit droids my buddy ordered are going to show up as the tan.
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I can't say I've been at all impressed with HTS either. I ordered two of the McQuarrie Obi-Wan/Yodas from them awhile back and I never recieved them. And My R2-KT came in a box without any packing material, luckily that figure came in a clamshell.
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Well. They're good for openers, right?
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Rob, I got tan with grey markings, so yeah your buddy gets tan with grey I bet...
Which I cannot for the life of me find tan with orange markings, or the brown/orange overall deco pitdroid. :(
And that's not even counting the other pit droids to come with the other accessory. Holy ****. ::)
Don't count on your color matching on your order though.
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I guess wave 5 is starting to hit seeing how I found a set of Orange Pit Droids the other day. I've also heard many reports of wave 4 showing up at Target.
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Rob, I got tan with grey markings, so yeah your buddy gets tan with grey I bet...
Which I cannot for the life of me find tan with orange markings, or the brown/orange overall deco pitdroid. :(
And that's not even counting the other pit droids to come with the other accessory. Holy ****. ::)
Don't count on your color matching on your order though.
Yeah, I'm not. I'm going to go hit a few places today at lunch to try to get it sorted out... my need list now looks like this:
Sandtrooper (Clean) - opener and carded
Yellow Clone Trooper - carded
Pit Droids (Orange) - opener and carded
Pit Droids (Red) - opener
And I think that's it until Evolutions sculpt Sandtroopers and whatever-else is coming shows up.
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This line is becoming a legendary pain in the ass!! >:(
Try tracking down every variation on top of being colorblind.
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This line is becoming a legendary pain in the ass!! >:(
Try tracking down every variation on top of being colorblind.
I agree, forget it! I ran across a bunch of "clean" sandtroopers at TRUS this morning.
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Well I think I'm about done ordering with HTS. The first oder (2 gray ARCs) came in a box that was too small for them, cards completely bent in half.
Same thing happen to me! I ordered 3 figures so 2 were laying down in the box flat and the third was bent in half and layed upright next to the other 2. I'm going to have to be real desperate to do that again!
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The 4th battle droid set is definitely hitting the shelves now. It's kind of a let down that it's the same as set number 3 (the battle damaged set) except that the blast damage droid has been replaced with a cleaner droid. Should have been two clean droids.
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I ordered RA-7 and R4-19 from HTS. They are instock.
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Reports are coming in that the Evo body Sandtrooper is starting to hit as part of a wave 5 revision, but it's the orange paldron one. :P
You know, I'm beginning to wonder if we're actually going to get the clean black one...
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You know, I'm beginning to wonder if we're actually going to get the clean black one...
I was just thinking of that too... seems like he got skipped, as he was supposed to appear before the Clean, White Pauldron version even.
I wonder if he got dropped or something? ???
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Heck, with all the variants, I'm surprised we aren't getting the black RA-7, too.
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I still haven't seen any clean sandtrooper of any sort in the Legends line. :'(
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Picked up the Orange Pauldron Evo Sandtrooper yesterday and noticed one thing that I wonder if will cause a stir. The Pauldron is not the evo pauldron, but the Saga one (with the pouch.) If that translates into the White Evo one, in a sense, we'd have still not gotten the one we voted on. :P
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Not to add even more variations and appologies if this is a known change, but I have two different Red Clone Officers from the Saga Legends line. One has his 4 dots on the left chest up high like the original release EE Exclusive figures. But I picked up another one of these at Target about a week ago and it has the four dots much lower down the chest. Anyone else finding this? If so, do you know if the variation exists across all four colors of Clone Officers?
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Anyone else finding this? If so, do you know if the variation exists across all four colors of Clone Officers?
Yeah, a lot of folks have been finding the "moving dots" on all 4 of the Officers. RS had reported a while back that Hasbro made the change at the request of LFL so the figure was more screen accurate...
"Another change that was made to the Clone Trooper Officers are the location of the dots on the chest armor. The dots were originally higher up on the left side of the chest armor, and Lucasfilm asked that they be lowered to be more film-accurate." (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/actionfigure/more_saga_legends_variants_to_watch_out_for_109296.asp)
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I've noticed some of the moved dots have light scratching... makes me almost think that the dots were removed in factory, and replaced with a new set. there's definite "wear" around the dots on some of my figures though.
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Anyone else finding this? If so, do you know if the variation exists across all four colors of Clone Officers?
Yeah, a lot of folks have been finding the "moving dots" on all 4 of the Officers. RS had reported a while back that Hasbro made the change at the request of LFL so the figure was more screen accurate...
"Another change that was made to the Clone Trooper Officers are the location of the dots on the chest armor. The dots were originally higher up on the left side of the chest armor, and Lucasfilm asked that they be lowered to be more film-accurate." (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/actionfigure/more_saga_legends_variants_to_watch_out_for_109296.asp)
Thanks Jeff. Do you think the story behind this is real, or is this Hasbro's way of getting some of us to pick up 4 more figures? :-\
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Good question Jman. It's funny that some at Lucas film would fuss about dot position, yet let monstrosities like Torture rack Han slide.
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This is definatley the last "silly" line that I'm collecting carded anymore. All these Legends variations are driving me out of being a completist.
Thank you Hasbro ;)
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This is definatley the last "silly" line that I'm collecting carded anymore. All these Legends variations are driving me out of being a completist.
Thank you Hasbro ;)
I can't decide what I want to do about the dots variation. I normally would have just skipped it, but I wound up with a carded version of both reds and open versions of both yellows. ::) I still have some leftover knollwood specials, so I guess I'll get these and exchange if I can find them.
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Wow, I'm SO glad I'm not a completist or carded collector. I don't envy you fellas looking to get all the variations.
I've been happy enough just picking up army builders for dioramas.
I just want to know if the SA 501st trooper IS going to be made or not. So far it doesn't look like it. That will be a big disappointment to me.
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I'm trying to amass a set of carded this year (only because I love the character specific artwork) and have realized that one of each character (variation) is suffice.
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All the variants are killing me. I am not even trying to get them all but cant seem to find any.
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I think I found a new varation on the Sandtrooper and Imperial officer.
The Sandy is totaly white even its shoulder pad is white no color varition and its clean.
I also ran across an imperial officer that had redish color for its hair, and I wasnt the brown hairded, one because they had that one also!
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I saw that same Sandtrooper the other day, too. I passed. I own WAY too many Sandtroopers for my own good.
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I think I found a new varation on the Sandtrooper and Imperial officer.
The Sandy is totaly white even its shoulder pad is white no color varition and its clean.
I also ran across an imperial officer that had redish color for its hair, and I wasnt the brown hairded, one because they had that one also!
The all white Sandy sounds like variation 3 of this figure. There are three imperioal officers as well - dark hair, blonde hair and a light brown hair version (maybe looks redish to you).
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The easiest way to classify the Imperial Officers is to look at the original releases.
-The POTJ version has dark hair and the biggest head.
-The SAGA versions come in blonde and brown hair. The brown haired SAGA version has a smaller head than the POTJ version. And the size difference in the two heads is almost reminiscent of the difference in head size with the vintage Han Solo figures.
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This might be a dumb question, but for 2008 is the only "Saga Legends" we will see is more shipping of the current batch (from this year), and the "Fan's Choice" wave? I was just curious if we should be looking for any other "new" Legends prior to the Fan's Choice wave or not, at least from what we know.
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I think all that is planned for 2008 so far is:
Confirmed:
Legends Commander Neyo (fan choice)
Legends Covert Ops Clone Trooper (fan choice)
Legends Shadow Stormtrooper (fan choice)
Legends Utapau Shadow Trooper (fan choice)
Legends Zev Senesca (fan choice)
Legends Pit Droids [v4 - white, tan toolbox] (shown at Dallas con (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/figure_focus_saga_legends_pit_droids_109672.asp))
Legends Pit Droids [v5 - maroon, tan toolbox] (shown at Dallas con (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/figure_focus_saga_legends_pit_droids_109672.asp))
Legends Pit Droids [v6 - orange, tan toolbox] (shown at Dallas con (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/figure_focus_saga_legends_pit_droids_109672.asp))
Legends Sandtrooper [Evolutions? sculpt, Black Pauldron, Dirty] (according to the Hasbro Q&A (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_42nd_AND_43rd_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_110036.asp))
Legends Sandtrooper [Saga-037 sculpt, Black Pauldron, Clean] (according to Curto (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_STAR_WARS_QA_Special_Edition_Update_110354.asp))
Legends Sandtrooper [Evolutions sculpt, White Pauldron, Dirty] (according to Curto (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_STAR_WARS_QA_Special_Edition_Update_110354.asp))
Legends 501st Legion Trooper [v2 - #41 sculpt, clean] (according to Curto (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_STAR_WARS_QA_Special_Edition_Update_110354.asp))
Plus, I'm sure, re-shipments of some of the 2007 Legends to fill out the cases.
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Thanks Jeff :).
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Wow all those figures and the only one that remotely interests me is the Neyo and that's only because I never found the original
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If I'd have known about the Zev, I'd probably have skipped buying the Snowspeeder since I'm not fond of the reddish repaint. I'll check out those Sandtroopers though- but I'm not trying to get every variation, just ones I think look the best.
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Thanks Jeff. I wonder why these are keeping the coins?
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Thanks Jeff. I wonder why these are keeping the coins?
My guess is because they dont have to spend any money to develop new ones. They have the 7 coins already so why not. I want a silver EU coin anyway. I wouldnt be surprised though if perhaps the fan choice wave is the only one with the coins and then they phase it back to stands.
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There milking the Sandtroopers now, whats next the new skittle colored pauldrons.
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There milking the Sandtroopers now, whats next the new skittle colored pauldrons.
no their not. all the pauldrons on these figures were in the movies...
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There milking the Sandtroopers now, whats next the new skittle colored pauldrons.
no their not. all the pauldrons on these figures were in the movies...
Right. Frankly, I like these a lot more than the skittle colored clone trooper officer redos. :P
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Yeah, if the dots were in the right place there wouldn't have been a problem. ::)
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I agree, I don't really view the Sandtroopers as being "milked". I'd go so far as to say I'd even take the yellow pauldroned EU one from Jedi Knight (video game) with the Railgun. The RG was packed with Kyle Katarn's figure... So the mold's are all there. The figure would just be a clean deco... Voila. I'm a fan though, so my opinion there is clearly biased.
But yeah, I mean they're tweaking the decoes a little, that's fine, and the pauldrons are all appropriate (grey's debateable, but I do believe it exists in a way), so I'm into the Sandtroopers...
I feel the same with the AOTC Clones though. They could even redeco some battle damaged ones with nice weathering, and I'd be buying. Some mud deco, some Geonosis red-dirt deco, etc. I'm in on those...
The Utapau Shadow Trooper, the Covert Ops... They're "eh" though, and nobody's design but Hasbro's. Those are a little disappointing to me. Same as the Evolutions Officer (2nd Version) is nobody's design but Hasbro's unless you used the grey belt I guess, but regardless, I'd have much preferred a movie-accurate Officer, or just repack the Felucia Clone who was quite neat.
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I hope you guys can help me out. I am trying to determine which Saga Legends figures are different from their original release. This is what I have so far: (copied from Rebelscum forum)
palps45895 wrote:
This is the complete list of figures variants for Saga Legends as known to date. This does not include the packaging variants (stickers, etc.) only the figures:
Battle Droids:
TPM Tan Infantry and OOM-9
AOTC Maroon Infantry Blasted and Slashed
ROTS Tan Infantry Blasted and Heavily Slashed
ROTS Tan Infantry Clean and Lightly Slashed
Pit Droids:
White standing version (new paint, old copyright, 2nd bonus wave)
Maroon standing version (new paint, old copyright, 2nd bonus wave)
Orange standing version (new paint, old copyright, 2nd bonus wave)
White sitting version (new paint, new copyright, 1st bonus wave)
Brown sitting version (new paint, new copyright, 1st bonus wave)
Orange sitting version (new paint, new copyright, 1st bonus wave)
Sandtroopers:
Super Dirty Sergeant white/grey pad (EVO II deco on TSC body)
Dirty Squad Leader orange pad (EVO I deco on TSC body)
Clean Sergeant white/grey pad (TSC body)
Mythical Clean Corporal black pad (TSC body)
Squad Leader orange pad (EVO I deco and body)
Sergeant white pad (EVO II deco and body)
clone officers:
red - high dots
red - low dots
yellow - high dots
yellow -low dots
blue - high dots
blue - low dots
green - low dots
green - high dots
501st Legion Trooper started out as Tank Gunner mold (clean deco), hopefully to be replaced next year with SA ROTS #41 mold, but this is not yet definite.
Also, of note to loose collectors:
1. Darktrooper was not old sculpt, it had new copyright on foot
2. Clone Trooper ROTS is clean, new paint app from original
3. Darth Maul has new face paint app from original
4. Obi-Wan Pilot has different head than original
5. Shock Trooper has new paint app from original
also:
C-3PO (battle droid head) - slight repaint from TSC
Clone Trooper (AOTC) - brighter white from EE exclusive
501st Clone - ROTS had muddy boots
Boba Fett - now has peg holes in feet
Chewbacca - ROTS had yellow highlights
Imperial Officer - POTJ had black eyes, Legends has blue
do you guys know of any others? I've heard possible TC-14 & RA-7?
thanks!
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The Sandtrooper pauldrons are either white or grey, but I haven't seen clean grey ones, etc. Just clean white and black are all I'm aware of.
Nothing I can think of on the RA-7 and TC-14. They look like their original figures, and I've heard no variant on either of those.
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I think the RA-7 deco is slightly different.
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Is the second Evolutions version of the Sandtrooper ever coming? I thought Hasbro had been vague on that. They did say they were going to go back and offer the black pauldron TSC body again, but with the Evolutions Clone set featuring the White/Gray Pauldron Sandtrooper shipping again, I find it hard to believe that Hasbro would also package it individually.
I think clear information about the Saga Legends Line has been handled quite poorly by Hasbro. They should have posted a list with all variations and in what cases/waves figures were shipping to help us out.
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I'm a bit out the loop lately. Is there still supposed to be a #41 repainted in 501st deco?
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Yeah! My Five O's are about as useless as Bacara.
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I'm a bit out the loop lately. Is there still supposed to be a #41 repainted in 501st deco?
There was supposed to be, but as usually, we don't know when/if it's gonna hit now.
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There was supposed to be, but as usually, we don't know when/if it's gonna hit now.
SH@T!!!!
I knew I should have stocked up on those Alpos when I had the chance......
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I hope they're plentiful!
"New Saga Legends 501st Legion Trooper Found! (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/New_Saga_Legends_501st_Legion_Trooper_Found_112850.asp)"
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Any pictures? I've had a number of non-board members tell me they found the SA mold months ago, and after I told them what to look for, they came back and told me it was the gunner mold after all.
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Saw a bunch of these yesterday at Walmart.They are shipped with older Legends without the Rex sticker.
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Saw a bunch of these yesterday at Walmart.They are shipped with older Legends without the Rex sticker.
Ditto, just found 8 of 'em in Walmart in NY.
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Saw a bunch of these yesterday at Walmart.They are shipped with older Legends without the Rex sticker.
Ditto, just found 8 of 'em in Walmart in NY.
Are they packed/posed the same as the old RotS-sculpt one is?
Is there an easy way to tell it's the new sculpt vs. the old? new bubble, new pose, etc?
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I think easiest way to tell will be to look under the chin of the helmet. If you see skin it's the old one. Also, look for the chest/torso articulation - the new one has it.
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That method requires me to actually pull them off the pegs AND look at them closely.
I was hoping for a lazier/easier way to tell it's the new version... :-[
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That method requires me to actually pull them off the pegs AND look at them closely.
I was hoping for a lazier/easier way to tell it's the new version... :-[
Ahh... Well the new one might have the Rex Sticker (http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif)
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Well the new one might have the Rex Sticker (http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif)
Sounded like there was no sticker...
They are shipped with older Legends without the Rex sticker.
I guess I'll actually have to "look" at them... :-\
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I thought the old one was posed to sort of show the ball/socket hips off a bit... The new ones shouldn't have that ability, and should look pretty different in the leg portion even just thumbing through the pegs real quick.
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Are they packed/posed the same as the old RotS-sculpt one is?
Is there an easy way to tell it's the new sculpt vs. the old? new bubble, new pose, etc?
They were all stickerless. I doubt there are many of the old 501st hangin' around. At least there weren't here. All of the 501st here now are the new SA sculpt.
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Just did a quick check, to me the biggest difference is in the helmet, and that's pretty much it:
NEW:
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TACSLclone501st2cardfr.jpg)
OLD:
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TACSLclone501st1cardfr.jpg)
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Also if you look really carefully the AT-TE Tank Gunner mold has blue in the ankle joints, the SA mold has white.
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Just did a quick check, to me the biggest difference is in the helmet, and that's pretty much it:
Thanks. I scoured the pegs at the closest Wal-Mart this AM and actually found a pair of the new v2 figures hanging on the pegs mixed in among the older style 501st. :)
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I'm gonna try to get a few of these (my goal is five) during the drought.
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The way the hips are bent, that'll mean to be careful with your 501st's when you open 'em up... They've stretched the hip socket peg, kind of like how Commander Neyo and his grunt had their hip peg stretched from their set too... Not good for the toy. :(
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Saw the new "Fan's Choice" Legends (Commander Neyo etc.) today at a collector show. Wasn't about to pick them up for $18 each though. They should be hitting stores soon.
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The way the hips are bent, that'll mean to be careful with your 501st's when you open 'em up... They've stretched the hip socket peg, kind of like how Commander Neyo and his grunt had their hip peg stretched from their set too... Not good for the toy. :(
Yeah, they finally do the #41 fig for this legion and the legs will probably be irreparably wrenched.
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The way the hips are bent, that'll mean to be careful with your 501st's when you open 'em up... They've stretched the hip socket peg, kind of like how Commander Neyo and his grunt had their hip peg stretched from their set too... Not good for the toy. :(
Yeah, they finally do the #41 fig for this legion and the legs will probably be irreparably wrenched.
Well that's quite a bummer. :-\
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Yeah, they finally do the #41 fig for this legion and the legs will probably be irreparably wrenched.
They've done it before. It's "Commander Appo" minus the pauldron. Exactlly the same paint job, including the chest deco. There are a few specks of dirt on Appo, even though he's mostly clean. The new one is totally clean.
A lot of people held off on Appo to build this figure, but it's exactly the same thing.
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There is a slight difference in the paint job, the stripe on the chest actually goes all the way up on the legends figure. To a lot of people, that stripe was a huge gripe about Appo.
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New Force has wave 6 up for pre order. Contains one of each of the "Fan's Choice" figures.
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I'm slightly disappointed in the new EE catalogue, there's definitely some wave 5 case assortments missing, like the one with the white Pit droids and the 3 SA 501sts.
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Toys R Us finally did a massive restock of the SW action figure aisle (this is the most they've gotten since before Christmas) and it was practically all Saga Legends cases with the SA 501st (the only other case was a case of 2007 Wave 8). I don't know how many cases they got, or how many 501st were in each case, but I was able to get the six I wanted for myself and leave at least twice that many on the pegs for everyone else.
I also noticed another way (that I don't think has been mentioned yet) to identify the figure as the SA sculpt and not the AT-TE Tank Gunner mold. If you look through the top of the bubble, you should be able to see the slot where the antenna fits on the figure's back (there is no antenna included and the slot is easily noticeable). Between the ankles, the slot, the lack of a Jango chin, and the waist joint, it's pretty easy to find the SAs amongst the Tank Gunners if you look closely.
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Glad to see that Hasbro was finally able to give us a final answer on how many Saga Legends Sandtroopers there are.
As we all expected, the GLUT of White Pauldron Sandtroopers was actually meant to have Black Pauldrons in the mix as well.
So instead of there being five or six different versions of the Sandtrooper, there are only four:
TSC Body Dirty w/White Pauldron
TSC Body Dirty w/Orange Pauldron
Evolutions Body Dirty w/Orange Pauldron
TSC Body Clean w/White Pauldron
That's it.
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Glad to see that Hasbro was finally able to give us a final answer on how many Saga Legends Sandtroopers there are.
As we all expected, the GLUT of White Pauldron Sandtroopers was actually meant to have Black Pauldrons in the mix as well.
So instead of there being five or six different versions of the Sandtrooper, there are only four:
TSC Body Dirty w/White Pauldron
TSC Body Dirty w/Orange Pauldron
Evolutions Body Dirty w/Orange Pauldron
TSC Body Clean w/White Pauldron
That's it.
What about the one w/ the rifle instead of the stick?
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The one with the long rifle and not the "stick" is on Pete's list - "Evolutions Body Dirty w/Orange Pauldron".
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Glad to see that Hasbro was finally able to give us a final answer on how many Saga Legends Sandtroopers there are.
As we all expected, the GLUT of White Pauldron Sandtroopers was actually meant to have Black Pauldrons in the mix as well.
So instead of there being five or six different versions of the Sandtrooper, there are only four:
TSC Body Dirty w/White Pauldron
TSC Body Dirty w/Orange Pauldron
Evolutions Body Dirty w/Orange Pauldron
TSC Body Clean w/White Pauldron
That's it.
At this late stage in the game, Hasbro better not try to fix the production miscommunication that denied us the black one.
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At this late stage in the game, Hasbro better not try to fix the production miscommunication that denied us the black one.
They're not - they said that there is no way they could fix it now - the black pauldron Sandtrooper will not be part of the Saga Legends run and they will look to slot the figure somewhere in the 2009 line - probably in the GH figure assortments.
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Good. Thanks Pete.
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The funny thing is that the version/variation we're talking about is how the figure was released in the TSC line.
I don't know about you guys, but when that version was "the" Sandtrooper in circulation, I bought like 8 of those. So to be honest, the only reason I really wanted to make sure I had this fifth version (if it was indeed coming out) was to make sure my carded Saga Legends line is complete.
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Just a little bit of news regarding the last of the Legends figures for the TAC line, but I was listening to the Star Wars Action News podcast - and they were going through their Q and A answers from the last session. They asked specifically if HTS would get the last five Legends figures, and they said that they would not. I was a little disappointed, because I was hoping I might be able to grab a Shadow Stormtrooper or two from there, but it doesn't sound like they'll be getting them. I've seen the others that I wanted to get (Zev, Neyo), but haven't seen any of the others in stores. I'm not so sure that Target or Wal-Mart will be getting any other figures prior to the July 26 "rebranding".
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The lack of this product at the two biggest big box retailers is a major let down- I check Targets frequently, and it looks like they have just about shut off the pipeline until after the new figures arrive. Since all of the Hasbro rewards coupons expire before the new product, 6-8 weeks of almost nothing new (except the rancor and potentially WM's build a droid sets) stinks.
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I've noticed that as well. I'm pretty sure our Targets (and perhaps WM as well) have all but shut down until the new line hits next month. Our local Target store has 6 Elis Herlots on the pegs that have been there for at least a couple months now. The comic packs seem to be the same as well, although I haven't looked closely. The only "new" product I've seen come in there are Muggs and the Rancors (4 of them there today). Wal-Mart has more figs, but mostly TAC Wave 1 (2008) and Legends Biker Scouts. They're drowning in Indy stuff too, which seems to be taking over the SW area a bit at this point. TRU seems to get new stuff once in awhile, but I always seem to miss it. More than anything else, they have Holo Vaders, Sandtroopers, and surprisingly, 501st Troopers.
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Imperial Officers. Imperial Officers. Biggs Darklighter. More Imperial Officers. And it will probably be that way until July. :P
Oh well, whatever. Indy stuff is keeping me occupied as it is. ::)
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An employee at the Wal-mart I was at during the midnight release was nice enough to ask if I was looking for any other figs too. I told him if they had any black clones or stormtroopers I'd be interested. He took me to the clearence stuff and I struck pay dirt.
I bought:
Shadow Stormtrooper x3
Utapua Shadow Clone Trooper x3
Covert Ops Clone Trooper x2
They had all the TAC figs just sitting on the shelf, and there were a heck of a lot of them. They must have just left a few in the old area.
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Great find on the Saga troopers. They seemed to dry up in my area quite some time ago.
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Wow, very cool. Congrats on the nice score! :)