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Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Mikey D on July 17, 2008, 09:42 PM
Watchman Trailer (http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/watchmen/watchmen-tlr1_h720p.mov)

Hell yeah.  This movie looks outstanding.
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on July 17, 2008, 10:23 PM
Man, that trailer is sweet. Can't wait.   8)
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: efranks on July 18, 2008, 09:21 AM
The Watchmen trailer ran in front of Batman last night and I was blown out of my seat by it.  It looks so incredible I can't even stand it.
 
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Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: BillCable on July 18, 2008, 09:52 AM
Watchmen does look fantastic.  If anyone can do that graphic novel justice, it's Zach Snyder.
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on July 18, 2008, 10:21 AM
I e-mailed the Watchmen trailer link to my friend last night, his reply on the trailer... JESUS FREAKIN' CHRIST!!!!!! I SQUEED MY PANTS!

LOL!  ;D

Comics2film has some new pics up.  Promo Art (http://www.comics2film.com/g/thumbnails.php?album=36&page=1&sort=dd)

I love the cover of Entertainment Weekly clicky pic for a HR image.

(http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/EWwatchmen.jpg) (http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/EWwatchmenBig.jpg)
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DarkKnight2k4 on July 18, 2008, 12:13 PM
Amazing trailer. Can't wait.
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: JangoTat on July 18, 2008, 02:36 PM
That trailer was confusing. I had never even heard of them before. Heck at first I thought it was a paraody because the guy in the batman get up....but there was nothing funny about it lol.
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Reid on July 18, 2008, 03:08 PM
That trailer was confusing. I had never even heard of them before.

It would probably be less confusing, if you actually read the graphic novel on which it was based on...
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: BillCable on July 18, 2008, 03:22 PM
It is, as billed, the best graphic novel of all time.  Any comic shop should have it in stock.
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on July 18, 2008, 03:25 PM
Here, have a copy.  ;D

(http://www.ink-stainedamazon.com/blog/uploaded_images/WatchmenBabies-738481.jpg)

(http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Watchmen/watchmen__1_.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2077/2392444614_eaf5fbdd28.jpg)

(http://members.tripod.com/~applesaucebrainman/051503.jpg)

It is, as billed, the best graphic novel of all time.  Any comic shop should have it in stock.

And every fan should own one... like me.  ;)
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on August 19, 2008, 09:42 PM
Fox's 'Watchmen' lawsuit heats up (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990722.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Sprry75 on August 20, 2008, 08:45 AM
One more reason to hate Fox media.
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on October 22, 2008, 11:31 AM
Oh man, I just got chills watching this. Is it 2009 yet!  ;D

Watchmen - Spike Awards Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GUmgQHvqqc)

Watchmen Will Blow Your Mind! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-scScl2Yip4)

(http://www.stereocupcake.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/watchmen.jpg)
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Sprry75 on October 22, 2008, 06:25 PM
Oh man, I just got chills watching this. Is it 2009 yet!  ;D

Watchmen - Spike Awards Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GUmgQHvqqc)

Watchmen Will Blow Your Mind! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-scScl2Yip4)

(http://www.stereocupcake.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/watchmen.jpg)

What is it the kids say these days?  Sick?  Because those clips with Rorschach look sick.
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Reid on October 22, 2008, 06:38 PM
Oh man, I just got chills watching this. Is it 2009 yet!  ;D

Watchmen - Spike Awards Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GUmgQHvqqc)

Watchmen Will Blow Your Mind! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-scScl2Yip4)

(http://www.stereocupcake.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/watchmen.jpg)

That was ******* amazing.

Best part? Dr. Manhattan dissassembling the tank.
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on October 23, 2008, 10:37 PM
Teaser poster.

(http://cdn-www.mania.com/content_pics/45754_large.jpg)
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on November 13, 2008, 09:31 PM
New Watchmen trailer (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/watchmen.html?showVideo=1) is up.

******* sweet!  8)
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Reid on November 13, 2008, 09:57 PM
New Watchmen trailer (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/watchmen.html?showVideo=1) is up.

******* sweet!  8)

That looks simply amazing.
Title: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Mikey D on November 14, 2008, 07:44 AM
New Watchmen trailer (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/watchmen.html?showVideo=1) is up.

******* sweet!  8)

Fan-*******-tastic.

PS - Silk Spectre gives me the hawt...

PSS - Think this film warrants it's own thread?  Admittingly, it's probably going to be a cult film and just the fanboys will eat it up (at least until positive word of mouth), so the average movie goer won't see it like The Dark Knight or Iron Man, but I think it has enough fans on this site to get it's own thread.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 11, 2008, 10:01 AM
Apparently a new Watchmen trailer variant is out on Sky Movies.

new Watchmen trailer (http://movies.sky.com/world-exclusive-brand-new-watchmen-trailer)

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new While it contains many scenes that have appeared in previous Watchmen trailers, we're pretty sure we've spotted Rorschach as a child, Dollar Bill and his cape and the original Silk Spectre...

So much better when they play "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning", fits the Watchmen well.   8)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Brian on December 11, 2008, 03:05 PM
Also, someone has posted the footage/trailer that was originally shown at Comic-Con (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szwxElvYzMg&fmt=18) this year.  It may be old news, but it was something I hadn't seen before.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Phrubruh on December 11, 2008, 09:52 PM
To me having never read or heard of the graphic novel before, the Watchmen movie just looks weird and random. Nothing looks recognizable and I have no idea what the plot would be. I don't see it as being a commerical success since the general movie goer doesn't know who these super heros are.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on December 11, 2008, 09:56 PM
I watched the latest cut of Tales from the Black Freighter today.   :)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Sprry75 on December 11, 2008, 10:33 PM
UR Mean.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Reid on December 11, 2008, 10:34 PM
To me having never read or heard of the graphic novel before, the Watchmen movie just looks weird and random. Nothing looks recognizable and I have no idea what the plot would be. I don't see it as being a commerical success since the general movie goer doesn't know who these super heros are.

Might be a good idea to actually read the graphic novel. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 12, 2008, 09:39 AM
I'm really looking forward to this. Zack Snyder and Jackie Earle Haley alone are brilliant choices.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 12, 2008, 11:48 AM
To me having never read or heard of the graphic novel before, the Watchmen movie just looks weird and random. Nothing looks recognizable and I have no idea what the plot would be. I don't see it as being a commerical success since the general movie goer doesn't know who these super heros are.

Might be a good idea to actually read the graphic novel. Just a thought.

Oh I agree, it's a must read. If you don't want to buy the graphic novel then you can read it online (http://watchmen-comics.blogspot.com/).  :-X  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on December 13, 2008, 02:45 AM
UR Mean.

You need to call me one of these days so I can tell you about it.

I just can't be posting stuff on the internet about the project.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Phrubruh on December 13, 2008, 11:34 AM
To me having never read or heard of the graphic novel before, the Watchmen movie just looks weird and random. Nothing looks recognizable and I have no idea what the plot would be. I don't see it as being a commerical success since the general movie goer doesn't know who these super heros are.

Might be a good idea to actually read the graphic novel. Just a thought.

Oh I agree, it's a must read. If you don't want to buy the graphic novel then you can read it online (http://watchmen-comics.blogspot.com/).  :-X  ;)  ;D

My point is most people are not going to read the graphic novel and therefore have no connection to these characters and will not see this movie. It looks strickly like a fanboy only movie. I don't think it will do as well as a typical Spiderman or Batman movie. People know Marvel and DC characters enought to actually know who the characters are because of television. These guys look like a throwback to some 40s comic book or a rip off of some Marvel characters. Granted it looks neat but still I have no idea from the preview alone what it is all about.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: BillCable on December 13, 2008, 12:16 PM
The plot of the original comics was pretty much a mystery until the next to last issue.  I hope they don't reveal too much in the previews... it'd ruin the experience.

PS:  Rob, you suck.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 14, 2008, 10:15 AM

 These guys look like a throwback to some 40s comic book or a rip off of some Marvel characters.

That's funny because that's exactly what they are. In fact, I don't think they're a rip off. If I remember the history of the project correctly, the characters were all failed comic book characters that DC owned and were trying to have re-birthed. The challenge to Moore was - "can you take these characters and give them new life?"
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 15, 2008, 08:31 AM

 These guys look like a throwback to some 40s comic book or a rip off of some Marvel characters.

That's funny because that's exactly what they are. In fact, I don't think they're a rip off. If I remember the history of the project correctly, the characters were all failed comic book characters that DC owned and were trying to have re-birthed. The challenge to Moore was - "can you take these characters and give them new life?"

 :-*   :-*   :-*   :-*

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Random/TheMinutemen.jpg)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: BillCable on December 15, 2008, 08:39 AM
That's funny because that's exactly what they are. In fact, I don't think they're a rip off. If I remember the history of the project correctly, the characters were all failed comic book characters that DC owned and were trying to have re-birthed. The challenge to Moore was - "can you take these characters and give them new life?"

That's not exactly how it happened.  Moore initially pitched using existing heroes, but DC balked.  So Moore created brand new characters loosely based on existing ones.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 15, 2008, 09:14 AM
That's right, thanks Bill.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 15, 2008, 11:25 AM
Watchmen Trailer Song: Have you ever wondered what that addictive song from the Watchmen trailer is? (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/watchmen/news/?a=5497)

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Zack Snyder used the song in the trailer; however he does not wish to use it either in the soundtrack of the film or within the film itself. As a historical purist, Zack Snyder did not put the music in the film because the Watchmen is based in mid-1980s New York, but the Smashing Pumpkins weren't even formed until the late 1980s in Chicago.

But we can always remember "The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning" as the perfect choice for the Watchmen trailer's song.

Yeah, too bad it's not making the cut. That toon just screams Watchmen.

Clicky & crank it!  8)

The Beginning Is The end Is The Beginning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybULQm-IAGY)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Brian on December 15, 2008, 11:48 AM
Thanks for posting that Dale.  Great song, and it fit the trailer perfectly.  I have admit, although it probably sounds blasphemous as a comic reader, I've never actually read the Watchmen either.  I've been aware of it since I read comics as a kid, but just never picked up a copy.  I think I'll try to pick up the TPB next time I order from Amazon, and get it read prior to the movie finally.  I had heard before that Moore originally wanted to use established comic characters, but had to go create news ones (based loosely on previous ones).  I was curious, has it ever been revealed which characters he wanted to use originally?  I thought I heard Rorschach was based on The Question, but I wasn't sure of the others.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Jeff on December 15, 2008, 11:59 AM
Yes, Moore wanted to use the Charlton Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlton_Comics) heroes that DC had acquired -

The Comedian = Peacemaker
Doctor Manhattan = Captain Atom
Nite Owl = Blue Beetle
Ozymandias = Thunderbolt
Rorschach = Mr A / The Question
Silk Spectre = not from Charlton, but based on Black Canary / Phantom Lady
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: evenflow on December 15, 2008, 12:10 PM
Yes, Moore wanted to use the Charlton Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlton_Comics) heroes that DC had acquired -

The Comedian = Peacemaker
Doctor Manhattan = Captain Atom
Nite Owl = Blue Beetle
Ozymandias = Thunderbolt
Rorschach = Mr A / The Question
Silk Spectre = not from Charlton, but based on Black Canary / Phantom Lady


Thats pretty cool. i am reading it now for the first time.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 26, 2008, 08:43 AM
Judge Says Fox Owns Rights to a Warner Movie (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/25/business/media/25fox.html?_r=1&bl&ex=1230354000&en=16a3dd67da5bac74&ei=5087%0A)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 26, 2008, 10:52 AM
Just heard about that. I had read about the problems and I'm very familiar with the principal player. I'm not surprised this happened. Hopefully WB and Fox will work something out.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 29, 2008, 08:08 PM
Bastards!  >:(

Fox says it will try to stop 'Watchmen' (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081229/ap_en_ot/film_watchmen_suit)

As posted on ain'titcool... bull****! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmLAj9iIfQk)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on December 29, 2008, 09:30 PM
When we started working on the Black Freighter I was told this might be an issue... I'd forgotten all about it until this news broke the other day.

Insanity.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: BillCable on December 29, 2008, 09:45 PM
So if it's delayed, you're gonna hook us all up with copies, right?   ;)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: efranks on December 30, 2008, 12:32 AM
And the list of reasons why I hate Fox just grows and grows.  Do they really know they may, in fact, be the single most hated entity in entertainment next to the Weinsteins?

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Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on December 30, 2008, 12:50 AM
So if it's delayed, you're gonna hook us all up with copies, right?   ;)

Sure, if I want to lose my job and most likely face prosecution from Warner Brothers...   :-*
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Ben on December 30, 2008, 02:05 AM
I can't believe Fox wouldn't be content to sit back and take a slice of the profits, especially if someone else already spent all the cash to film and promote it. What could be accomplished by blocking the release of this movie?
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on December 30, 2008, 02:10 AM
I'm just guessing, but if they really own it, they can screw Warner by blocking the release, effectively causing Warner to  lose everything they spent on it (as in, they spent a few hundred million and won't make a dime of it back).

They'll probably aim to get all of the profits, not a slice.  If they do that, Warner's only option will be to appeal the ruling, or to potentially break even at best, while watching hundreds of millions of dollars in profit go to FOX for nothing.

It could get very nasty.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Sprry75 on December 30, 2008, 04:52 AM
Don't suppose there's any chance this is all just some kinda publicity stunt, is there?  Please?  Maybe?  Honestly, I can't imagine that there's not a way the two studios could work some kind of deal, and talk of preventing release is just pre-trial posturing.  Or maybe that's just more wishful thinking....
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 30, 2008, 10:19 AM
These studio chiefs have major egos. They won't hesitate to screw another studio, therefore, there is a chance that Watchmen may never see the light of day... in the theater.

However, I'm certain that a digital copy will hit the net should the project get buried.

Fox will agree to release the movie only if Warner takes a hideously bad deal, so in the end, it's going to be WB's call.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: BillCable on December 30, 2008, 10:32 AM
I think Fox could come up smelling like roses if they'd force Snyder to bring back the squid before they'll allow the movie to be released...   ;D
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on December 30, 2008, 12:09 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 30, 2008, 12:12 PM
What do you not get Rob? Did you highlight Bill's post?  :P
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: BillCable on December 30, 2008, 12:15 PM
Yeah, I spoilered it out.   ;)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on December 30, 2008, 03:51 PM
Got it.   :-\
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 30, 2008, 04:58 PM
So if it's delayed, you're gonna hook us all up with copies, right?   ;)

Sure, if I want to lose my job and most likely face prosecution from Warner Brothers...   :-*

Don't worry Rob...we won't say it came from you.   ;)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 30, 2008, 10:36 PM
Watchmen Exclusive (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=48917596)

If FOX ***** this up... God Help Us All!

If they do come kicking down the front door Rob, we can always hide your ass up here in the great white north.  :-X  ;)  :-*
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on December 30, 2008, 11:45 PM
If they do come kicking down the front door Rob, we can always hide your ass up here in the great white north.  :-X  ;)  :-*

My dad's been telling me that for twenty years, but not concerning the Watchmen.   ;)

Don't worry Rob...we won't say it came from you.   ;)

You vote for Obama in 2012 and I'll consider it.   :o
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 31, 2008, 01:18 AM
How about you get us the copies and I'll consider it?  :D
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on January 6, 2009, 09:17 PM
Japanese trailer (http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/watchmen/japanese-trailer)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: efranks on January 7, 2009, 03:08 AM
**** that looks good!

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Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Mikey D on January 7, 2009, 07:44 AM
I'm getting more and more excited for this film.  Hopefully Fox doesn't **** it up.

So definitely no squid.  A bit disappointed in that, but I can deal with it.

Also looks like there's some backstory not in the comic - specifically Comedian killing JFK.  It was always implied that he was responsible, but never actually confirmed.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 7, 2009, 10:16 AM
Nice fine Dale, thanks.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on January 8, 2009, 10:49 AM
Looks like we get an answer on the 20th:


http://www.themovieblog.com/2009/01/judge-will-decide-jan-20th-if-watchmen-can-be-released
Judge Will Decide Jan 20th If Watchmen Can Be Released
Categories: News Chat | By John | 29

The drama surrounding the Watchmen movie is getting ready to hit it’s climax. As some of you may not know, Fox studios has taken legal action against Warner Bros to prevent WB from releasing the movie. The reason… WB made the movie they didn’t own all the rights too… turns out Fox owned the right (all or in part) and never gave their consent for WB to proceed with making the movie. Fox tried to communicate with WB about it, but apparently WB just ignored them until the movie was done and Fox had to go to court with it.

Recently the Judge ruled that Fox did indeed own rights in Watchmen. Now, WB and Fox have agreed to bypass the jury and allow for the judge in the matter to make a ruling on if Watchmen can be released in theaters or not March 6th. It doesn’t look good at the moment.

The judge is set to rule on the matter on January 20th. On that day, we’ll know if the Watchmen will or will not be released in theaters March 6th or not. This could take a while.

And once again, let me remind everyone that this is WB’s fault. Fox owned the rights. WB didn’t do enough due diligence to make sure they were allowed to make the film. Fox tried to talk to them about it but WB blew them off. Now we’re in this mess.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on January 8, 2009, 05:02 PM
Warner Bros. asks for "Watchmen" call sooner (http://ca.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idCATRE5070YS20090108)

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January 20 could be D-day in the "Watchmen" dispute between Fox and Warner Bros.

Or rather I-day, when the studios have agreed to let a judge decide whether to issue an injunction against the superhero film's scheduled March 6 release by Warner Bros.

But Warners is asking that the hearing be moved up to as early as Monday because "time is critical," the studio argues in papers filed this week. The studio must soon commit tens of millions of dollars in marketing for a film it isn't sure it can release.

'Watchmen' producer speaks out about lawsuit (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/01/watchmen-produc.html)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on January 8, 2009, 05:35 PM
If FOX still partially owns the rights from a long time ago (which is what the last judge ruled) it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference whether they passed on making it in 2005 or not.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on January 9, 2009, 02:59 PM
Settlement likely (http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/settlement-likely-in-watchmen-dispute/)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on January 12, 2009, 09:57 AM
Watchmen - TV Spot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ntztIUtCv0&fmt=22)

 :)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on January 14, 2009, 03:42 AM
WATCHMEN settlement near (http://www.mania.com/watchmen-settlement-near_article_112259.html)

Watchmen Hearing Cancelled  (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51926)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on January 15, 2009, 02:48 AM
Just wow!

WATCHMEN #11 LAST PAGE TO PIRATE STORYLINE DAVE GIBBONS  (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300285988326&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on January 15, 2009, 10:24 PM
Yay!  :)

Warners, Fox settle over 'Watchmen' (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i2079648bd224e2c82155a1306806e56f)

Warner Bros. and Fox Settle Watchmen Dispute  (http://www.superherohype.com/news/watchmennews.php?id=7989)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on January 15, 2009, 10:55 PM
Excellent.  Black Freighter is just about done.  My friend just spent the week in L.A. sitting in on the audio work and says it's really awesome.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Ryan on January 15, 2009, 11:14 PM
I have never read the graphic novel and really know nothing about the film, but affter seeing the trailer in front of Gran Torino a few weeks back I think I'll probably want to go see this flick at some point.

Does anyone know if there is a good place to read the novel for free online? 
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: efranks on January 16, 2009, 12:14 AM
Great news.  I'm already couting down to this film.

As for the graphic novel, check your local library, they'll probably have it.  But it's worth the investment, probably about $20 at your favorite book store or maybe even less in a back issue bin at your local comic shop.  It's the kind of GN that you need to spend some time with, it's pretty thick on content.

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Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on January 16, 2009, 01:43 AM
Does anyone know if there is a good place to read the novel for free online? 

Ah yup.  :-*

Clicky, clicky (http://watchmen-comics.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Sprry75 on January 16, 2009, 08:49 AM
Crap.  Now I will have to go see it.  :-[
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on January 16, 2009, 10:07 AM
The new I Watch The Watcmen (http://www.i-watch-the-watchmen.com/ww/) site is up is up & running.

Black Freighter almost done, sweet!  8)

Looks like we don't have to hide you up here now Rob, still want earlier copies tho.  :-*
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on January 16, 2009, 10:34 AM
Even if I had copies, I wouldn't share them (obviously) but as it happens, I don't have a copy.  As far as I know there are a few shots they're making some last minute changes to, but it's 99.9% done. 
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on January 21, 2009, 02:27 AM
Watchmen - TV Spot #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3GPSp4TAMs&fmt=22)   :)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on January 22, 2009, 11:14 AM
WATCHMEN heats up, new photos and videos now online (http://www.mania.com/watchmen-heats-up_article_112493.html)

HBO will premiere the TV special Watchmen: HBO First Look, offering fans a sneak peek of the film, Saturday, Feb. 28th at 6:45 p.m.

(http://cdn-www.mania.com/content_pics/000004/99/47/79e891d82e04db15_large.jpg)

Neil Armstrong gets his picture taken on the surface of the Moon by Dr. Manhattan.
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Post by: DSJ™ on January 24, 2009, 12:48 AM
Watchmen Soundtrack Features MCR Covering Dylan (http://www.chartattack.com/news/65310/have-a-look-for-watchmen-albums)

Also for those that don't frequent the Kubrick section of the forum:

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Kubricks%20Series%206/Watchmen1.jpg)

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Kubricks%20Series%206/Watchmen2.jpg)  (http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Kubricks%20Series%206/Watchmen3.jpg) (http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Kubricks%20Series%206/Watchmen4.jpg) 

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Kubricks%20Series%206/Watchmen5.jpg) (http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Kubricks%20Series%206/Watchmen6.jpg)  (http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Kubricks%20Series%206/Watchmen7.jpg)
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Post by: DSJ™ on January 29, 2009, 10:32 AM
Apparently the final preview poster for Watchmen.  8)

(http://blog.wired.com/./photos/uncategorized/2009/01/29/watchmenfinal.jpg)

Stunning Watchmen Portraits (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=24083)

"Schwing!"

(http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/31853.jpg)
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Post by: efranks on January 29, 2009, 11:23 AM
Malin Ackerman is a hot girl. 

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Post by: DSJ™ on January 30, 2009, 09:50 AM
Another set of pics has hit the net, this set contains some possible spoilers so enter at your own risk.  :P

World Exclusive Unseen Watchmen Images (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/world-exclusive-unseen-watchmen-images)
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 3, 2009, 10:08 AM
IMAX poster MTV exclusive.

(http://blog.wired.com/./photos/uncategorized/2009/02/03/newwatchmenpostersarrive80075.jpg)
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 6, 2009, 09:57 AM
The Keene Act & YOU (1977) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5WsciSNVS0)
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 6, 2009, 10:06 AM
New Details About Watchmen’s ‘Black Freighter’ Tie-in (http://screenrant.com/details-watchmens-black-frieghter-tiein-kofi-5345/)

 8)
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Post by: Rob on February 6, 2009, 10:55 AM
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is directed by Daniel DelPurgatorio and Mike Smith

Ha, weird seeing that in print.
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 10, 2009, 09:10 AM
Watchmen - TV Spot #3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZX5buAcGnY)   :)
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 11, 2009, 10:40 AM
'Watchmen': 17 Stunning Portraits (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20258076,00.html)   8)
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Post by: Darth_Anton on February 12, 2009, 09:29 AM
I've already made my watchmen plans - first show Friday morning.
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 13, 2009, 10:52 AM
Tales Of The Black Freighter trailer is up for those who can see it. It will not air outside the US do to Copyrights so I guess I'll have to wait for a youtube thingy or someplace that can play the damn thing!  >:( ****... ****...****!

"Watchmen: Tales Of The Black Freighter" Exclusive Trailer (http://www.mtv.com/videos/movie-trailers/341388/watchmen-tales-of-the-black-freighter.jhtml#id=1605027)

I blame Rob!    :P
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 13, 2009, 11:44 AM
The Tales of the Black Freighter trailer is up on youtube, sweet!  8)

Tales of the Black Freighter Official Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zUgBK0-qbo)

I still blame Rob!
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Post by: Matt_Fury on February 14, 2009, 06:19 PM
Watchmen Trailer Song: Have you ever wondered what that addictive song from the Watchmen trailer is? (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/watchmen/news/?a=5497)

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Zack Snyder used the song in the trailer; however he does not wish to use it either in the soundtrack of the film or within the film itself. As a historical purist, Zack Snyder did not put the music in the film because the Watchmen is based in mid-1980s New York, but the Smashing Pumpkins weren't even formed until the late 1980s in Chicago.

But we can always remember "The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning" as the perfect choice for the Watchmen trailer's song.

Yeah, too bad it's not making the cut. That toon just screams Watchmen.

Clicky & crank it!  8)

The Beginning Is The end Is The Beginning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybULQm-IAGY)

I'm trying to find that other song they used in some of the trailers.  Great song, I hope it's in the movie.
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Post by: Rob on February 14, 2009, 08:24 PM
I still blame Rob!

It's legit now.  :)
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 15, 2009, 02:02 PM
Watchmen - TV Spot #4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBA7vRHZdYk&feature=related)

Watchmen - TV Spot #5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGt16wC1fEA)

T-minus 5 post & counting.
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 17, 2009, 11:10 AM
Just got my Watchmen tickets online for Friday @ 7pm.  ;D

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Random/watchmen.gif)
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Post by: efranks on February 17, 2009, 11:41 AM
The trailers for this, although similar in content, look more and more kick ass.

I think I'm looking forward to this more than just about any other film this year with the exception of Wolverine.

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Post by: DSJ™ on February 19, 2009, 09:50 AM
Watchmen to Run 3 Hours and 25 Minutes on DVD! (http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEj0Ookrd3eKmj)

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While his latest film extravaganza won't even hit theaters for a few more weeks, director Zack Snyder has already revealed what to expect on the DVD. Collider spoke with Watchmen director Zack Snyder today at the press junket for the film, where he revealed that there will be some extended goodies in store on the DVD.

While the theatrical release of Watchmen is about 2 hours 36 minutes, Zack just told me the DVD/Blu-ray will have two versions to appease the fans that wanted more.

There will be a director's cut on the DVD that will be 3 hours 10 minutes and another cut with Tales of the Black Freighter that will be 3 hours 25 minutes!

Watchmen - TV Spot #6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDsD3T4eeOg)

3 new clips from Watchmen are up on youtube. Warning, may contain spoilers!  :P

Watchmen Exclusive In-Film Footage: 'Attention Citizens' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqVqJ-aJfC8)

Watchmen Exclusive In-Film Footage: 'Rescue' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji67r6WO2PI)

Watchmen Exclusive In-Film Footage: 'We can break into the Pyramid' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBKRZXR2YFM)

Getting closer day by day.  :)  ;D
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 23, 2009, 08:56 AM
Watchmen Clip: Prison Break (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDeYy73C8Hc)

Watchmen Director's Cut in Theaters This July.
 
After a MTV taping, Watchmen director Zack Snyder told the audience some great news: "The director's cut is 3 hours and 10 minutes and comes out [theatrically] in July." This marks the third version of Watchmen, with the theatrical version (running at a paltry 2 hours and 37 minutes) and a Snyder-dubbed "Crazy Ultimate Freaky Edition" DVD of Watchmen.

Announced last December, the "CUFE" DVD will be released this fall and will include the Tales of the Black Freighter animated footage, the death of original Nite Owl Hollis Mason, more dialogue from the newsstand Bernies and Dr. Manhattan on Mars and boasts a 3 hour and 40 minute running time, an extra 30 minutes from the director's cut.

None of the ever-expanding versions of Watchmen will include the original, graphic novel ending, though, Snyder says, the alternative would have been even worse.

The Squid is in ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Post by: efranks on February 23, 2009, 09:27 AM
How is it that this film can get two theatrical releases in the same year but I can't ******* see Fanboys?
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Post by: BillCable on February 23, 2009, 10:44 AM
You can... you're just not willing to drive far enough.   ;)
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Post by: efranks on February 23, 2009, 12:03 PM
Right.  Because every ******' theater has 12 screens now but I have to drive 5 hours to see a film?  **** the Weinsteins!

I don't care that they release Kevin Smith's films, I'll never go to another theatrical release or buy another DVD that in any way will support their company.

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Post by: BillCable on February 23, 2009, 12:08 PM
They're still expanding into new markets.  If it continues to be moderately successful, you might see it in your neck of the woods.
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Post by: efranks on February 23, 2009, 01:29 PM
Fanboys is dead to me now. Kristen Bell could come over, naked, with the DVD and I wouldn't watch it.

I'd lock her in the box in the closet, have no worries, but I'd throw the DVD out, un-viewed.  :P
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Post by: JangoTat on February 23, 2009, 10:49 PM
saw the trailer for this one again while watching Friday the 13th and although I thought this looked like the stupidest movie...ever...i have to admit the newest trailer was cool. maybe even cool enough to get me to watch it :-X
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 24, 2009, 10:24 AM
Watchmen, once considered unfilmable, was published in 1986 and has gone through several unsuccessful adaptations. The cast of the new version gathered in London for the world premiere. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7907345.stm)

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45506000/jpg/_45506011_watchmencast_getty.jpg)

Watchmen watch: early reviews roundup (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/feb/24/watchmen-reviews-roundup-zack-snyder)

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This is an 18-rated superhero movie which makes last year's famously brooding Batman sequel The Dark Knight look like Alvin and the Chipmunks.

(http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a015.gif)  (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/frech/a015.gif)

Extended Clip from Watchmen Featuring Rorschach (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnyR10CIDW8)
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Post by: Rob on February 25, 2009, 07:03 PM
G4 is running an hour long special on the Watchmen today.  During the first half hour there's a section on the Black Freighter featuring my friend Danny who directed it.  I was too busy and missed it while everyone was watching it at work today, but I'm told that it's around 8 minutes long.  Allegedly, I make about a 5 second appearance in it staring at my monitor. 

If anyone is interested, it's supposed to be on again tonight at midnight eastern.
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Post by: Sprry75 on February 25, 2009, 07:35 PM
If someone can please capture the five seconds of Rob, loop it into a two hour reel, and post it on YouTube, me and this bottle of Astro Glide will be much obliged.
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 25, 2009, 10:18 PM
Watch it here (http://www.megavideo.com/?v=A6GLA1W6).  Rob, what time frame are you on & can you screen capture it, pretty dark at the monitor scenes.  :-\
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Post by: BillCable on February 25, 2009, 10:25 PM
Looks like the BF stuff starts around 19 minutes in.  But there's quite a few guys in front of monitors, and the resolution is pretty poor.
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Post by: Rob on February 25, 2009, 10:29 PM
20:40.  But really, it's nothing spectacular.  The impressive (and weird thing) is seeing Danny all over the special.
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 25, 2009, 10:32 PM
I'll check it out later at work, hopefully it will be quiet tonight. The special so far looks great.  :)
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 26, 2009, 09:07 AM
I watched the Watchmen special during some downtime at work last night in the link I posted above, pretty good. A little dark but you can see Rob staring searching Pron working posting on JD sleeping in front of the monitor.  :P
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Post by: Rob on February 26, 2009, 10:14 AM
Yeah.  We initially filmed ourselves working to give Warner a pile of b-roll footage of the studio and the production for use in a behind the scenes type thing for the dvd.  Then I guess they shared that footage with G-4.  The shot that's in there was right as the battery was dying, and I think the guy with the camera had told me to 'hang on for a second.'
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Post by: Matt_Fury on February 26, 2009, 01:14 PM
If someone can please capture the five seconds of Rob, loop it into a two hour reel, and post it on YouTube, me and this bottle of Astro Glide will be much obliged.

That is the funniest, and most disturbing post I've read in quite a while.
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Post by: DSJ™ on March 2, 2009, 09:41 AM
'Watchmen' Easter Eggs: Our Favorite Blink-And-You'll-Miss-'Em Moments (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1606068/20090227/story.jhtml)

For tomorrow...  ;D

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Random/WatchmenBoth.jpg)

 :)
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Post by: efranks on March 2, 2009, 07:30 PM
Bought my ticket for the midnight showing Thursday!  I'll be picking up the DVD tomorrow (or some day this week) but I'll probably wait till Friday to watch it.

I'm planning on leafing through the Watchmen graphic novel tomorrow or Wednesday night in prep for the movie.  I'm really looking forward to this!

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Post by: BillCable on March 2, 2009, 10:46 PM
I saw a sneak peak tonight.   ;D

I'll be posting a review up on http://CreatureCantina.com tomorrow, I think.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on March 3, 2009, 02:24 AM
I saw a sneak peak tonight.   ;D

Basturd!  >:(   :P   ;D
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Post by: efranks on March 3, 2009, 06:21 PM
WHAT?  It's not enough you get to see Fanboys, now you get to see a sneak peek of Watchmen? 

Brickinbrackinbrassinfrassin....

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Post by: iFett on March 3, 2009, 09:20 PM
I plan on watching the Watchmen this weekend.  I don't read comics and I have no clue what this movie is about, but I've heard it's a cool flick. 
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Post by: DSJ™ on March 3, 2009, 09:53 PM
I picked up the Watchmen motion comic today plus the soundtrack.  ;D
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Post by: BillCable on March 4, 2009, 08:22 AM
Bill Cable watches the Watchmen (http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_stories/2009/0304/watchmen.html)

Enjoy!
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Post by: DSJ™ on March 4, 2009, 09:59 AM
We shall see in just under 2 1/2 days what me thinks.  ;)

I watched the 1st DVD disk on the motion comic last night, it's good but a tad to slow. Each comic is roughly 25-29 mins long but I had to speed it up a tad as the narration is just too... yep slow. Still good tho & looking forward to watching the rest tonight, happy " :) " I picked it up.  ;D

Then off to get the Tales of the Black Freighter on March 24th.  ;D

Unless Rob can score me an autographed copy by all involved, yeah like that's gonna happen!    (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/konfus/e034.gif)
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Post by: Rob on March 4, 2009, 10:56 AM
If you wanted to send it to me I could have it signed by some of the team and sent back... but the animators were in Korea, and one of the co-director's is based out of the west coast and just left the company. 

I could get the director and comp team though.

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Post by: DSJ™ on March 4, 2009, 11:01 AM
Well, I may have to take you up on that. Hurry up Mar 24th.  ;D
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Post by: Matt_Fury on March 4, 2009, 06:43 PM
I got tickets to see it tomorrow in IMAX!   ;D
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Post by: efranks on March 4, 2009, 08:07 PM
I guess I didn't pay close enough attention till today, I thought the DVD release this week had the Black Freighter on it.  I'm actually probably going to skip this release and just see the film then get the BF DVD when it comes out later.

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Post by: Nathan on March 5, 2009, 02:49 AM
Watchmen Proves The Cold War Is An Alien World | review by Charlie Jane Anders (http://io9.com/5163900/watchmen-proves-the-cold-war-is-an-alien-world)

"After a couple of decades since the Berlin Wall, and years of superhero movies, a guy wearing an inkblot mask to beat up criminals seems more sane than Mutually Assured Destruction. We understand superheroes and costumed asskickers, but we no longer understand Henry Kissinger."
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Post by: Darth_Anton on March 5, 2009, 09:17 AM
Target is selling the graphic novel. $15.99. I think that's pretty cool.
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Post by: DSJ™ on March 6, 2009, 03:42 AM
The horror, the horror...

Saturday Morning Watchmen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w)
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Post by: Brian on March 6, 2009, 09:20 AM
A somewhat lukewarm (http://movies.ign.com/articles/959/959494p1.html) review of Watchmen up at IGN, not that reviews usually matter all that much anyways.  I hope I'm able to get out to see this in the next month or so, but as one of the few who hasn't yet read the entire graphic novel - just parts of it online (a copy is on the way in the mail), I wanted to read it through all the way first.
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Post by: efranks on March 6, 2009, 03:25 PM
Saw it last night at midnight and really liked it.  There  were a couple things I didn't care for such as the guy that played Nixon and I missed there not being more involvement of the news stand guy, just because he was kind of a character in the comic.  But I see why they skipped him...but that also made the news paper office scene at the end a little "tossed in."

Loved, loved, loved Jackie Earl Haley as Rorschach!  I also liked Patrick Wilson and Jeffrey Dean Morgan who really nailed the Comedian as far as I'm concerned.  Malin Akerman was sufficiently hot.

Can't wait to see the Black Freighter DVD.  I want to see this film again but I don't know if I'll see it in theaters or wait for the DVD.  At today's prices, it'll be cheaper to buy the DVD!

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Post by: I Am Sith on March 6, 2009, 06:40 PM
Tried to go see it tonight at the theater on campus and it was sold out for today :(.  I'm going to have to wait until tomorrow.
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Post by: DSJ™ on March 7, 2009, 02:38 AM
Just got back from seeing the Watchmen... loved it! Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach, perfect as with the other characters except Robert Wisden as Nixon. Malin Akerman, well... (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/drool1.gif)

Will I see Watchmen again... ah yup.

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Random/watchmen.gif)
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Post by: Sprry75 on March 7, 2009, 06:28 AM
I saw it last night, and really liked it a lot.  I saw it with a friend who had never read the comic, and I think he was just lost (and I think he expected a Fantastic Four or X-Men type of movie) though.

I could kind of tell that there was not only a lot of the comic story left out, but that there are things that were filmed that were left out.  I expect that the seven and a half hour director's cut release will be a little more congruent. For the most part, though, I think that capturing as much of the book as they were able to do was quite an achievement.

I also have to say, I thought the modified ending worked well in the movie.

The only complaints I have are that Matthew Goode sounded like the goofy priest from The Princess Bride at times, and some of the old people make-up (e.g., Sally Jupiter, Nixon) looked kind of bad. 

The Dr. Manhattan effects were great inasmuch as I never really thought of him as an effect.

Rorschach and Comedian could not have been cast any better, and I lost count of how many ways Malin Ackerman is hot.

(http://cdn.maxim.com/52001-52500/52481_malin_l6.jpg)

I've already got tickets to see it later today in IMAX.  ;D
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Post by: Darth_Anton on March 7, 2009, 10:16 AM
Didn't love it, didn't hate it. I think they did as good a job as they could have. Jackie Earle Haley was masterful though.
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Post by: Matt_Fury on March 7, 2009, 02:44 PM
I thought it was great...especially in IMAX!

I thought the modified ending was good, but they could've gone with the original comic plot and not had to add too much to the movie.

Still...it was enjoyable.
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Post by: Jayson on March 7, 2009, 03:37 PM
Just got back from it. Very enjoyable. I went into it blind, never reading the comic or knowing the story really in any way. I sure didn't expect that much porking and full frontal blue dong at 10:45am but I didn't mind it. But I'm sure the husband and wife with their 2 small (under 12) kids were taken aback by it.

Rorschach was definitely my favorite character and I liked the Comedian, except for when he was kicking the **** out of Silk Spectre that was a little much for me. Music selection was a little distracting at times where it didn't sound "period correct" but the whole story was of a different timeline so I quickly got past it.

Overall I'd give it a solid 3.5 out of 4 stars.
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Post by: iFett on March 7, 2009, 05:25 PM
This was a very "different" movie.  I liked it, but it was odd.  Rorschach was a ******* bad ass.  I LOVED his character.  Doctor Manhattan is a mystery.  The comedian should have been in the entire movie versus what happend.  It started so beautifully with him.  Left the theatre with many questions - as a non comic reader.

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Post by: Neal on March 7, 2009, 07:50 PM
I sure didn't expect that much porking and full frontal blue dong at 10:45am but I didn't mind it. But I'm sure the husband and wife with their 2 small (under 12) kids were taken aback by it.

Too bad for them.  That's why you don't take kids into R-rated movies.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on March 7, 2009, 11:32 PM
Just got back as well.  I hadn't read the story before, and I loved it.

There were some pretty bad effects (and a lot of good ones) but overall I really enjoyed it.  I'm going back sometime later in the month.
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Post by: Darth_Anton on March 8, 2009, 10:55 AM
Just got back as well.  I hadn't read the story before, and I loved it.


Neat to hear that perspective. Now go get the novel from Target.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: I Am Sith on March 9, 2009, 08:00 PM
Like Rob, I didn't know anything about the graphic novel before I saw the movie.  I really liked it, thougt it was very entertaining.

I lost count of how many ways Malin Ackerman is hot.

(http://cdn.maxim.com/52001-52500/52481_malin_l6.jpg)


Me too (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/drool1.gif) (thanks for that DSJ)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on March 10, 2009, 08:48 PM
AICN on Tales of the Black Freighter:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40376

 ;D
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Phrubruh on March 11, 2009, 11:02 AM
I wonder if this movie will make any money. Over the weekend it made $55 million which is pretty good but still short of 300's $71 million with half as many screens. I have a feeling that 300 made it money because of its, then unique, visual style. That style has been done to death since. I know its a fanboy-type movie but I think everyone else will be totally confused. The trailers said absolutely nothing about what it is about. Is it a xmen-type movie? These are not mainstream characters like Batman or Superman. Personally I've never heard of or seen this comic book before until now. I think for the non-fanboy, there isn't a defined good guy and bad guy to grasp on to. It does sound interesting though but I don't see it living up to the hype. Maybe it will do really well in Europe.

On a side note, I was checking out a site on Atari ST computer magazines published in Europe and they had a cover from 1989 talking about getting the hot details on the new Watchman movie and video game. Twenty years later we finally get it.

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Post by: DSJ™ on March 11, 2009, 11:16 AM
Maybe it will do really well in Europe.

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"Watchmen" opened at No. 1 in the U.K. ($4.6 million), Russia ($2.3 million), Australia ($2.3 million), Italy ($1.6 million), Korea ($1.4 million), Brazil, Mexico and the Netherlands. Its North American total was $55.7 million, falling short of industry expectations.

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"Watchmen" reigned on the international circuit over the weekend as director Zack Snyder's sci-fi fantasy, launching simultaneously with its domestic debut, grossed an estimated $25.9 million, easily finishing at No. 1 overall.

An adaptation of a comic book series from Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons, the Warner Bros./Paramount/DC Comics production, distributed overseas by Paramount, is the first big worldwide launch of 2009. Its overseas weekend tally, from 5,079 screens in 42 markets, is the year's biggest since the $31.1 million rolled up by DreamWorks/Paramount's "Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa" in the first weekend of January.

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“Watchmen” took home the crown as the #1 movie in America this weekend with a blockbuster Friday wide-release. Early projections of a three-day total of $55.7M (an average of $15,413 per venue) were correct, making “Watchmen” the year’s most successful domestic opening to date. The film also fared well on the international market with a solid $27.5 million overseas, bringing its overall worldwide gross to $83.2M during its debut weekend.

While it’s clear that an opening take of $55.7M is nothing to sneeze at, as mentioned, most industry analysts (and obviously Warner Bros. execs) were expecting bigger numbers from its first frame, hoping for at least a $60M weekend, if not giving the reigning March opening weekend record holder, “300″ ($70.9M), a run for its money. As it stands, “Watchmen” currently holds the third spot overall, and most analysts are blaming that on the film’s long runtime and hard R-rating for its unabashed adult subject matter.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on March 11, 2009, 11:44 AM
It'll certainly make money, the question is just how much?  Between domestic gross, international gross, and dvd/blu-ray sales, you really, really have to screw up to lose money.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Phrubruh on March 11, 2009, 01:02 PM
It'll certainly make money, the question is just how much?  Between domestic gross, international gross, and dvd/blu-ray sales, you really, really have to screw up to lose money.

Eventually all movies make money. It's how long you have to wait to regain your investment.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: ruiner on March 11, 2009, 01:22 PM

Eventually all movies make money. 

That's most certainly false.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on March 11, 2009, 01:33 PM
Eventually all movies make money. It's how long you have to wait to regain your investment.

Really? Tell that to these movies to name a few:

The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
Around the World in 80 Days (2004).
Babylon AD.
The Avengers.
Barb Wire.
Basic Instinct 2.
Battlefield Earth.
Canadian Bacon.
Catwoman.
The Core.
Escape from L.A..
Event Horizon.
Hart's War.
Howard the Duck.
Ishtar.
Last Action Hero.
The Love Guru.
Mighty Joe Young.
Punisher: War Zone.
Rollerball (2002).
Speed 2: Cruise Control.
Speed Racer.
Thunderbirds.
Waterworld.

None have ever regained their investment.

 :P   :-*
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: iFett on March 11, 2009, 01:38 PM
Howard the Duck was a classic.   :P
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Jayson on March 11, 2009, 01:46 PM
Howard the Duck was a classic.   :P

You're in luck then (http://www.dvdempire.com/exec/v4_item.asp?item_id=1441311)  :P
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: iFett on March 11, 2009, 02:14 PM
You're in luck then (http://www.dvdempire.com/exec/v4_item.asp?item_id=1441311)  :P

Weird...That was just released yesterday.  I didn't even see it on my Tuesday morning DVD run to Target.  Anywhooo...Thanks Jay.  That's a piece of the 80's that I want back.   :D
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Nathan on March 12, 2009, 01:04 AM
I'm surprised to see Escape from LA and Last Action Hero on there. Most of the rest are what you'd expect though.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on March 12, 2009, 10:19 AM
Howard the Duck was a classic.   :P

More like a cult classic.  ;)

I'm surprised to see Escape from LA and Last Action Hero on there. Most of the rest are what you'd expect though.

Escape from L.A. Budget: $50,000,000. US Gross: $25,426,861. Net Loss: 50.9%. Worldwide: $137,298,489.

Last Action Hero. Budget: $85,000,000. US Gross: $50,016,394. Net Loss: 58.8%. Worldwide: $42,277,365. 
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 13, 2009, 10:31 AM
Eventually all movies make money. It's how long you have to wait to regain your investment.

Really? Tell that to these movies to name a few:

The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
Around the World in 80 Days (2004).
Babylon AD.
The Avengers.
Barb Wire.
Basic Instinct 2.
Battlefield Earth.
Canadian Bacon.
Catwoman.
The Core.
Escape from L.A..
Event Horizon.
Hart's War.
Howard the Duck.
Ishtar.
Last Action Hero.
The Love Guru.
Mighty Joe Young.
Punisher: War Zone.
Rollerball (2002).
Speed 2: Cruise Control.
Speed Racer.
Thunderbirds.
Waterworld.

None have ever regained their investment.

 :P   :-*

Yes they did. Every one of them. Paul's right, every movie makes money. It's just a question of how much. Once you add merchandizing, International, TV rights, rental and DVD sales, they, at very minimum, re-grain their production and advertising cost. Speed racer earned a nice chunk of change from toy sales. Another thing that's deceptive about the production cost of every movie made is product placement savings which can account for anywhere between 5 and 25% of the budget.

Then again, no movie ever makes money, on the books. Even Forrest Gump, the Matrix and the Lord of the Ring movies because deceptive account practices are used to avoid paying bonuses, percentages and taxes.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on March 13, 2009, 11:11 AM
So your saying that a movie like Zyzzyx Road (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyzzyx_Road) that had a budget of $2,000,000 & a gross of the worst in history of a pathetic $30.00 & by 2006 only made about $368,000, made it's money back on merchandizing, International, TV rights, rental & DVD sales!!!!

(http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/a040.gif)   (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Southern%20Alberta%20Storms/KVROFLMAO.gif)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Sprry75 on March 13, 2009, 03:03 PM
Not to put a bee in anyone's bonnet, but I paid $2,000,000 for an officially licensed, 1:1 Marissa action figure from Zzyzzyx Road.

(http://www.blogacine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/katherine_heigl.jpg)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on March 13, 2009, 03:13 PM
Zzyzzyx Road.

Zzyzzyx Road, is that a sequel to Zyzzyx Road?  (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/d015.gif)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Sprry75 on March 13, 2009, 03:17 PM
No wonder my extravagant purchase didn't make it into the official tally.

Goddamn knock offs  >:(
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: ruiner on March 13, 2009, 04:57 PM
I know, personally, two people who bought Delgo figures.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 14, 2009, 11:57 AM
So your saying that a movie like Zyzzyx Road (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyzzyx_Road) that had a budget of $2,000,000 & a gross of the worst in history of a pathetic $30.00 & by 2006 only made about $368,000, made it's money back on merchandizing, International, TV rights, rental & DVD sales!!!!

(http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/a040.gif)   (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Southern%20Alberta%20Storms/KVROFLMAO.gif)

That was a direct to DVD movie that was released theatrically just to qualify it for foreign release to earn it some extra cash. I can't find the DVD numbers on that movie specifically, especially since it's an independent deal, but it was released on dvd, and there is a certain fee for the rights and certain percentage the producing company earns for sales. In addition, with planned direct to DVD releases, there is usually a deal already in place, so no one in their right mind would exceed a budget that would infringe on profitability.

One of my best friends, who produced an independent feature that cost $125K and had no name talent, nearly got a dvd distribution deal. Just the DVD rights was half a million plus sales, or $2 million for a buy-out without sales. If they had just one name star, the initial fee would have been $2 million plus sales or a $5 million buy-out. Zyzzyx road earned it's money for it's investors no problem on it's dvd deal.

In my best Robert Shaw from Jaws "Don't you tell me my business again."
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Artoo on March 17, 2009, 12:33 AM
I saw it this weekend & loved it. Now I need to get my hands on the novel. I saw it at Target but had no money, I hope it's still there.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Brian on March 17, 2009, 09:33 AM
I saw it this weekend & loved it. Now I need to get my hands on the novel. I saw it at Target but had no money, I hope it's still there.

I'm one of those who hadn't read the entire novel yet either (just portions online), and I'm in the process of checking it out right now (really enjoying it).  I don't know if I'll be able to get out to see the movie until the DVD release, but I'm definitely looking forward to it.  Just as a side note, I don't know about your Target, but ours is selling it as well for around $16 if I remember right.  I got my copy via Amazon for about $10-$11.  So, if you're ordering something else there anyways, it might be a more inexpensive option.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Reid on March 22, 2009, 12:44 AM
Finally caught the film this evening. I thought it was a pretty good literal translation of the book, and the new little scenes/bits of conversation were nice to see. I'm really mad they took a lot of the therapist scene out, and even moreso that they took out the giant vaginal squid creature.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: DSJ™ on March 22, 2009, 12:02 PM
Just checked out Tales of the Black Freighter somewhere online.  :-X   ;D

Nicely done, can't wait to get the DVD Tuesday.  8)

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Random/BlackFreighterCreditsRob.jpg)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on March 22, 2009, 01:41 PM
Good to see they spelled my name right.   :)
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Phrubruh on March 22, 2009, 05:32 PM
Very cool Rob! :D
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Phrubruh on March 23, 2009, 11:11 AM
A report over at Blue Sky Disney states that film execs at WB will never allow another R rated super hero movie again because of the failure of Watchmen.

Blue Sky Disney (http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/)



Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: BillCable on March 23, 2009, 11:45 AM
Sad that $150 million globally in 18 days is considered "failure."  I guess they expected 300 numbers.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on March 23, 2009, 12:53 PM
I guess they expected 300 numbers.

They were expecting even more than that.

300 cost $65 million to make and made $450 million world-wide.  Watchmen cost $150 million to make and to date has grossed $147 million.

It'll make its money back and then some, but they were expecting massive profit on this movie and aren't going to see it.  In relative terms it basically is a flop.

Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 23, 2009, 01:30 PM
What about the re-release later in the summer?  Is that now in jeapordy?
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on March 23, 2009, 01:58 PM
I'm not sure but I would assume that they'd want to do that even more to make a few extra dollars back.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: efranks on March 23, 2009, 07:12 PM
I'm sure that the R rating did keep some people out of the theater but I think it had as much or more to do with the denseness of the story as anything.  Watchmen is a very deep book that covers a lot of topics and history and even reading it I'm sure there are things that I missed.

Plus, there weren't any recognizable heroes in the film and there weren't even any real household names among the actors in the film.

And people are stupid.  Making them think about what they're watching?  What was Snyder thinking?  :P

   E...
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Theta 288 on March 24, 2009, 02:08 AM
Waste of money, I went with my wife to see a Blue man's penis in almost every scene that he appears...WTF?, not to mention the same 300 love making scene & other stuff.... The Best thing was the Trailer.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Rob on March 24, 2009, 10:56 AM
Waste of money, I went with my wife to see a Blue man's penis in almost every scene that he appears...WTF?,

What's the big deal?   ???
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Scott on July 15, 2012, 09:50 AM
Anyone interested in Before Watchmen?

Also see they are doing DC Classics Watchmen figures
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Ben on July 15, 2012, 02:50 PM
Before Watchmen is pretty good stuff. Well, it doesn't suck, anyway. Minutemen is probably the best of the books by far, at least IMO.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: McMetal on July 15, 2012, 04:31 PM
Despite my initial opposition, and ongoing skepticism, I am reading them all.

Curious to see how Rorshach and Dr Manhattan turn out...the others have been ok so far. The first Comedian was a little silly, IMO.

Minutemen took sort of a creepy turn last issue, not sure what to make of that one yet.

The Crimson Corsair stuff has been pretty sweet though.
Title: Re: Who Watches the Watchmen?
Post by: Diddly on July 17, 2012, 03:43 PM
I've been buying them but haven't had time to read any yet... I mainly picked them up because my store had a deal where if you bought any of the issues, you got the original Watchmen graphic novel for half off. Figured I might as well.