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Title: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Brian on September 20, 2003, 05:59 PM
Galactic Hunter has posted the first picture (a fairly blurry one) of the upcoming Jabba the Hutt.  Kind of hard to tell exactly what it looks like from the picture, but we shouldn't have to wait too much longer to see it in the next issue of Insider.  Anyways, what do you guys think?

First Jabba Pic (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=1762&zoneid=2)
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Chris on September 20, 2003, 06:06 PM
I am reminded of "Jabba Glob". I will have to wait for a decent picture to make an opinion.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: DSJ™ on September 20, 2003, 06:20 PM
The Pipe stand looks nice! I wonder if Monket boy Salacious Crumb comes with it.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: SilverZ on September 20, 2003, 08:50 PM
Have to admit, I got pretty excited seeing that pic, even as blurry as it is. Maybe they actually worked some wonders with the Jabba Glob body and decent paint apps?

And the inclusion of the hooka and rails, seeing them now in pictoral form, obviously SCREEMS for more components to be included. His dias must be coming somehow.

Fingers crossed this turns out ok...

J
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 20, 2003, 09:02 PM
I like it... so far... sort of...

Can't wait for good pictures to show up.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Darby on September 20, 2003, 09:53 PM
I'll wait for a better pic to pass judgement.  From the looks of it, it's the Jabba Glob repainted, but can't be sure.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Diddly on September 20, 2003, 11:01 PM
I'll wait for detailed pics before I post my final thoughts, but it does look like the Jabba Glob from a few years ago.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Ben on September 20, 2003, 11:24 PM
Yeah, it does look like Jabba Glob. Provided they paint it reasonably well, we might come out OK. Have to see better pics.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Scott on September 20, 2003, 11:27 PM
Good thing they decided to go into this half assed, its not like people have been asking for this for years or anything. I'll take Jabba over no Jabba any day but it still sucks they didn't go all out on something that could have been the best thing ever in the Modern Star Wars Line  :-\

Looks good though of what we did get  :)  I bought an extra Vinty Jabba set so he could have a throne.

You really think they could not have sold 10,000 of these at $30 a pop...
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: CorranHorn on September 21, 2003, 01:11 AM
Good thing they decided to go into this half assed, its not like people have been asking for this for years or anything.

Half-assed? Is that what the H in Hasbro stands for? I understand cost cutting procedures when necessary, and so far I won't judge on the Jabba, but as always they do things half-assed where it isnt warranted and where precedent has been set for a full-assed job. One day perhaps they will see the light...
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Nicklab on September 21, 2003, 02:00 AM
I'll wait till I see it in the next Inside before I comment.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: dustrho on September 21, 2003, 02:27 PM
After looking at that crappy picture I don't know what to say about it.  It does look kinda like the Jabba Glob figure, but without that mouth piece thing.  That picture could be just a prototype, and it could go through a ton of changes before it being released to the public for sale.  So, it looks alright, but I'll have to wait to see it in its final form before making any true statements about it.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: SiteC on September 21, 2003, 05:33 PM
Honestly, I think this should have been a stand alone figure and not part of any 'deluxe assortment'.

What should have been done, since the fans have been asking for this for years, is package him in a window box something like the Screen Scenes from this year, with his pipe and throne and salacious crum.  Pricepoint, $20-25

Would it have worked?  Yes?  Why?  For the most part they would be re-using old molds.  Would I buy it?  Yes.  Why they did not do this is beyond me.  He pretty much could qualify as a screen scene with a throne, pipe, salacious, and a full case of just him would sell, but alas, you did it again Hasbro.

Anyway, the figure itself looks good to me, its better than that thing that came with Han a couple of years ago..

now lets hope we get new versions of slave Leia and Oola with good articulation....
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Jimmy on September 22, 2003, 12:31 PM
After making collectors wait for their "ultimate" Return Jabba we get that.  ::)

And yes that is the Jabba Glob though I mentioned that way back on August 10th in these very same forums... Guess no one pays attention
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Scott on September 22, 2003, 02:54 PM
Hey Jimmy someone (http://www.jedidefender.com/) gave you your props :-*

Your info as always is appreciated ;)
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Jimmy on September 22, 2003, 05:31 PM
I know that Scott  :-*

BTW a little OT BUT...

The Hoth wave is definitely on tap for Nov. As some may know I work pt time for an online store and we got our list order today for that wave.

Can't wait on that!  :o
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: JediMAC on September 22, 2003, 08:13 PM
I'll wait till I see it in the next Inside before I comment.

No need to wait for me!   :-*

What's TRULY pathetic, is that the same toy from 20 years ago beats the crap out of the same respective toy released two decades later...  That's just wrong.  Anyone ever heard of advancement in figure making technology?  Nah, I didn't think so...  ::)

The Jabba Globs warmed the shelves across the country(s) in thousands upon thousands, ON SALE.  I finally said "what the hell" and did my part to help alleviate the problem by buying one of them, at their standard clearance price of a $1.99, which is the only price I ever really saw them at.  If Hasbro couldn't get these things to sell for a measely $2, what the hell makes them think a repaint, rail, and a bowl is going to get them to sell for at least 500% more?!  Even as an obsessive compulsive completist, I almost never even bought the original Jabba Glob, since I never even considered it to be a part of the regular 4" action figure line.  It wasn't even marketed that way the first time around...  Seemed more like the random novelty collectible, than something that went with the 4" figures.

This is just an absolute shame.  I also don't buy the notion that some people are suggesting, which is that the retailers forced Hasbro into this less than desirable atrocity.  I think a well done Jabba with all the fixin's, for anywhere from $20 - $30, would've done just fine at retail and that at least one or more retailers would've taken the chance on it if it had been presented to them in such a manner by Hasbro.  From everything I've seen around here, a lot of the beasts have done quite well in the past, including the $30 Deluxe Bantha and Rancor (at least everywhere that I ever went shopping).  The Bantha sold out reasonably fast here, and the Rancor did pretty well also.  And as far as retail shelf space goes, a Deluxe Jabba would probably take up half of the room that those two monsters took up.

I think this was ultimately Hasbro's call, and they just copped out on Jabba (and us) and went their oft-rehashed route to make a quick buck by trying to take advantage of the collector's huge demand for this particular piece.  I would've rather they just rehashed the Vintage mold instead.  They do it all the time with the ships, why not with Jabba?  That one was much better, and at least a little more to scale.  The Jabba Glob is more to scale with the Kubrick line of figures, not the 4" line!

All these years of pent up collecting frustration, years of demand, years of hoping for something incredible, and Hasbro gives us...  Jabba Glob, the Sequel.  They should be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves.  All this incredible work on what appears to be a great figure line for 2004 - finally targeted at the adult collectors again, and the figure by far in the greatest demand gets the absolute worst treatment of all.  Hasbro owed it to us to produce a better Jabba after all that time!  (and yes, I fully realize that Hasbro technically doesn't owe us anything!)

No question about it - a nice window boxed, newly sculpted, to-scale Jabba complete with dais, rail, bong, chubas, etc (no pack-in figure necessary) for $24.99 would've flown off the shelves.  Hasbro's just plain LAZY (and/or greedy), and as a result has just seriously tarnished an otherwise great line of figures that are forthcoming next year...

I'll be buying one of these for $10 - $15 when it's released, but I would've bought THREE nicer ones for $25 - $30.  Go figure...   :-\

I'm going to go vomit now...
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Darby on September 23, 2003, 12:21 AM
Jimmy, if the Hoth wave is due for Nov., does it say when Bail Organa and the Nightclub figs are coming?  Short time frame there if you ask me.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Scott on September 23, 2003, 12:22 AM
I preordered the Bail Wave and the Nightclub wave and they both say October :-*
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: CorranHorn on September 23, 2003, 02:29 AM
Well said Matt. As JesseJames and I often talk about, Hasbro has a penchant for doing things half-assed. And this Jabba if it is indeed just a repainted Jabba Glob is the icing on the cake. The Big H is in a process of downgrading, doing things in such a fashion that a few years ago they never did such as lack of basic 6 pts of articulation on Cinema Scene (Screen Scene) figures. This rehashing molds to make "new" figures is weird in another light too as I think of it. Remember all of those Tatooine Luke's we got in the POTF2 days? All were new sculpts, well the POTD Luke was a bit of a rehash, but the carded ones were all new sculpts. Though nothing spectacular in the sculpts, Hasbro put the effort there, nowadays we get garbage like an Ep1 KiAdi Mundi with a new arm and paintjob and wa-la its an Ep2 KiAdi or a repainted Ep1 Yoda. There's a time and place for a rehash of a figure, when its an army builder or droid whose figure has been perfected such as the R2/R3/R4 units or Imperial Officers.

By the by, Hasbro I believe does owe us. Why? Because we buy the damn SW stuff and keep the line marginally profitable, it sure as hell isn't the kids and their p's who keep buying stuff.

But thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.... but then again I'm not  ;)
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Darth Broem on September 23, 2003, 11:42 AM
I have to agree with you Matt.  That's pretty much my take on the whole Jabba situation as well.  
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: dustrho on September 23, 2003, 11:48 AM
Though nothing spectacular in the sculpts, Hasbro put the effort there, nowadays we get garbage like an Ep1 KiAdi Mundi with a new arm and paintjob and wa-la its an Ep2 KiAdi or a repainted Ep1 Yoda.

Hey, don't give Ki-Adi Mundi a hard time.   ;)  It was a great figure the first time, so why change it?  I like the figure a lot, but maybe that's because I like his character.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Nicklab on September 23, 2003, 01:43 PM
Here's my two cents on the Jabba Glob, and I'll keep it at that:

It's not a bad sculpt.  The sculpt is probably one of the better Jabba sculpts that was done.  I only had problems with the paint job (not quite there, but almost), the mouth, the material it was made from, and the marketing (they really could've marketed the item better than they did).  This Jabba looks much more like the Jabba we knew in ROTJ than any other release.  The only other one that comes close in appearance is the Jabba with two-headed announcer, and that's plagued by an action gimmick.

As it is now, my Jabba's palace scene has a Jabba glob in it, with the vintage dais.  I will just wait and see on this new version, and decide when I see it.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Snively Bandar on September 23, 2003, 04:56 PM
I've got to agree with most everyone else here.  The Jabba glob was ok for what it was - the odd $2 collectible.  But it is way underscaled to be an appropriate Jabba for the regular figure line, even if it's in the proper ROTJ pose.

This really stinks.  Hasbro blew it big time with this rehash.  Especially when you consider that they KNEW how badly we all wanted a real nice ROTJ Jabba for all of our palace dioramas.   >:(

I'll be sticking with my vintage version, thanks.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Jesse James on September 23, 2003, 06:01 PM
More than the fiugre I think the lack of a full dais/base is what sucks.  

But, the figure's a disappointment too...  I'm not even someone who was clamoring for a new Jabba so much even.  I was happy with Jabba Gllob in my collection because I was thinking someday they'd wind up doing a whole new ROTJ Jabba...

Little did I realize that by having an inkling of faith in Hasbro to "do the right thing" they'd wind up making me disappointed in Jabba's figure line-up once again.

Oh well.

I have to say one thing I disagree with everone on though...  Jabba Glob rocked.  I love how he drools. :)  Come on that was a FUN toy!  At the time anyway...

Love to have him droolin' all around and stuff.  It's just funny, and it actuall worked.  

But uh, yeah that figure coming up isn't so cool and the original vintage figure is, sadly, superior.  :-\  Go figure.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Rob on September 23, 2003, 10:35 PM
Word has it that the insider has started hitting people's mailboxes...anyone get it yet??

are the pictures in there showing the same thing?

The Hasbro Rep who frequents rebelscum says the pictuer posted here and there is not the one that is in the insider... but he didn't say if it was the same toy or not.

Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: dustrho on September 23, 2003, 10:56 PM
I haven't gotten my Insider yet, but I'll check it out once I get it.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Scott on September 23, 2003, 11:15 PM
KBZ...just a point of clarification.  indigovic is Vic Wertz of the Insider he doesn't work for Hasbro :-*
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Scott on September 24, 2003, 12:16 AM
The German Site 4-inches.com posted this pic

http://www.4-inches.com/inhalt/news/2003/09/jabbas_kopf.jpg
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Rob on September 24, 2003, 02:19 AM
KBZ...just a point of clarification.  indigovic is Vic Wertz of the Insider he doesn't work for Hasbro :-*

Deep down I actually did know that...

Just a goof on my part...

Please accept my apologies. :)
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: JediMAC on September 24, 2003, 05:08 AM
The Hasbro Rep who frequents rebelscum says the pictuer posted here and there is not the one that is in the insider... but he didn't say if it was the same toy or not.

Unfortunately, Vic also said no one was allowed to (legally) post the picture of Jabba from their Insider magazine in any of the forums.   :-\

Wonder what's going to happen to the first person who likely does just that tomorrow...

I just hope my Insider's getting forwarded to my new house in a prompt manner!  Guess I should contact the Fan Club with a change of address, huh?   :P

I still say this thing stinks, though the suped up paint job as evidenced in the picture at 4-inches looks to be much better, as was expected.  Maybe this "new" Jabba would look better in a diorama with my SW Kubrick figures instead...   ::)
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: SiteC on September 24, 2003, 09:01 AM
curious they didn't bitch about all the other previous scans from Insider such as Unleashed Boba, McQuarrie Trooper, etc. being posted online.  The Jabba will be no different...it will go online...I find it comical that LFL/Hasbro wants us to buy their products but they don't want the fans to help promote it...imagine.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Brian on September 25, 2003, 09:40 AM
I see this morning that GH has a picture from the "Pre-Toy Fair" catalog, which shows the Jabba in its entirety.  It also offers some info on the line for next year, but nothing really new.  You can check it out here:

New Jabba Pic (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=1783&zoneid=2)
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Brian on September 29, 2003, 05:00 PM
Someone at the RS forums posted this new pic of Jabba, which is a little bit clearer, that was originally posted at 4-inches.com...whew.  Anyways, I haven't gotten my Insider yet, so I don't know if this is the same picture or not, thought I'd post if anyone was interested:

Jabba (http://www.4-inches.com/inhalt/news/2003/09/rotj_jabba2.jpg)
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 29, 2003, 06:12 PM
Photoshopped out part the background, but its the same photo that was in the Insider.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Snively Bandar on September 29, 2003, 08:03 PM
I tend to agree with most of the other fans on this item.  It looks pretty nice with the new paint job and all, but it's still going to be to undersized, especially in the "fat" department.  Of course the dais is sorely missed as well, so hopefully Hasbro will find some creative way of sneaking one in to us later on down the line.  Perhaps in a new Jabba's Palace playset someday?  8)  A guy can dream anyway.

I'll buy one of these though!  He can just sit on my vintage dais instead, I guess.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Dengar on September 30, 2003, 11:38 PM
I like the pipe and bowl but I hate his tongue.  I may actually not get this one, and I love all of the Jabba's palace figures.  I still don't think you can beat the Vintage one.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: DSJ™ on October 1, 2003, 10:24 AM
I still like the vinty Jabba myself. The way the stand & pipe/bowl looks though, it may go good with the vinty set. Will have to wait & see.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 1, 2003, 11:13 AM
The tongue is removeable, right? Isn't there a picture where he has no tongue?
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: dustrho on October 1, 2003, 11:17 AM
The tongue is removeable, right? Isn't there a picture where he has no tongue?

I haven't seen a picture with him having no tongue.  I actually like the tongue... looks just like him in ROTJ.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Scott on October 1, 2003, 11:25 AM
Somewhere I read that the tongue was removable...could have been here...I'm getting close to 30 cut me some slack
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: Nicklab on October 1, 2003, 04:47 PM
The Hasbro folks in Chicago said that the tongue would indeed be removable.  And 30 isn't that old, Scott.
Title: Re: First Look at Jabba at GH
Post by: dustrho on October 1, 2003, 05:40 PM
And 30 isn't that old, Scott.

Yeah, no kidding dude.  :-*