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Title: Vintage Collection Wave 13 (2012 Wave 4.1)
Post by: Scott on January 28, 2011, 10:22 AM
Rumored to be:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/kithaba.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/drevazan.jpg)(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/polls/358000/358167_1263411710308_100.jpg)(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081021030111/starwars/images/thumb/3/37/Nom_Anor_HS.jpg/250px-Nom_Anor_HS.jpg)(http://i0.peperonity.info/c/95D557/719252/ssc3/home/050/jedisith/clone_trooper__501st_legion_.gif_320_320_256_9223372036854775000_0_1_0.gif)(http://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/ponda.jpg)

Kithaba
Dr Evazan
Aayla Secura
Nom Anor
501st Clone Trooper
Ponda Baba

Ponda Baba was and then wasn't on some of the rumor lists...same goes for Sandstorm Leia...I'm including Ponda for now but this one might still change
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Nicklab on January 28, 2011, 10:29 AM
Really?  This seems like an odd lineup, and not necessarily a likely one.  There are NO core characters in this lineup as it stands now.  The only character that comes close to Hasbro's "A character" status is the 501st Clone.  Pretty much all of these characters have been confirmed by Hasbro in the Q&A's or official imagery.  But I think we can expect at least one or more core characters to be added to this initial lineup.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 28, 2011, 01:11 PM
If this shakes out to be true I would grab all but the clone.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 28, 2011, 01:54 PM
I am sorry but Nom Amore' is so stupid. He looks like a leftover alien design from "They Live". I cannot believe they are wasting a precious slot by releasing a bottom of the barrel EU character like him.

(http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=418802183040&id=e020c5d3f7f94ba3852951ac60dec2c3&index=ch1&url=http%3a%2f%2fmedia.laweekly.com%2f3789935.28.jpg)

I really hope Ponda and the good Dr. are in one Wave. They go hand and hand and both really need the update!
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 28, 2011, 02:06 PM
I am so happy they are releasing such a cool character like Nom Anor. Thank you Hasbro
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Brian on January 28, 2011, 02:16 PM
Not a bad wave, although I do see the point of no "anchor/main" character included.  Perhaps we'll see some shifting around, or even a repack/recarded figure of some sort.  Definitely most excited for Evazan and Baba, although the rest of the lineup is cool as well.  I could really care less about Nom Anor as well, but happy for those who are looking forward to him.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Morgbug on January 28, 2011, 02:49 PM
Who is Nom Anor ???
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 28, 2011, 02:56 PM
Who is Nom Anor ???

An excellent EU character. If you hate EU then you won't care, but I don't hate EU and loved his character.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on January 28, 2011, 03:05 PM
I don't think Anor will be the full-on, kooky-looking Vong Warrior type.  If I remember from that prototype ToyFare had (Anor was originally slated for a Fall 2010 comic pack before the line was scrubbed), he wasn't much more than "creepy alien in hood" - ah, here we go:
(http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq177/nerradrehsif/scan0001-1.jpg)

I know a good chunk of fans here hate EU figures like this, but I think his inclusion is simply Hasbro trying to finish off the top 25 from the 2005/6 ToyFare Fan Choice Poll (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=11589.msg499624#msg499624).

Once they get Bastilla Shan and Nom Anor out this year, there will only be TWO figures yet-to-be-made from that original Toy Fare top-25 (and let's be honest, one of those will probably never get made): 13. Padme Amidala (Funeral) (3%) and 24. Anakin Solo (.8%)

Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on January 28, 2011, 03:34 PM
I love EU figures when done right, and Nom Anor is a great character. 

He was the one part of the NJO novels that I really enjoyed.  He wasn't your typical Vong at all... and they're not a species I care for, but I love this character.  He is entirely different from the rest of his species and was always concerned about his own motives. 

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/df/NomOnCoru.JPG)

The picture above of him seems a lot better than some of the other Vong renditions we've seen... that's what I hope to see.  But instead, I'm afraid we're getting something more like this:

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060422152625/starwars/images/thumb/5/59/Nom_anor1.jpg/210px-Nom_anor1.jpg)

Still though, I'm curious by the idea of him being made... this whole wave sounds good to me, except for the clone because I'm sure they're going to use the "new" mold, which I feel is a giant step back.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 28, 2011, 03:37 PM
Yeah, I loved that he was "playing both sides" but really just in it for himself. I did like the Vong (I don't watch Star Trek since apparently they were stolen from that which I'm told every time I say I like the Vong) and Nom was my favorite Vong.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: P-Siddy on January 28, 2011, 03:49 PM
Yeah, I loved that he was "playing both sides" but really just in it for himself. I did like the Vong (I don't watch Star Trek since apparently they were stolen from that which I'm told every time I say I like the Vong) and Nom was my favorite Vong.

Did Vong smoke a bong while singing songs?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on January 28, 2011, 03:50 PM
I do like a lot of EU, and I still think Nom Amore' is retarded.  :)  Then again I didn't like about 50% of the NJO stuff.  Can't really say I care if we get a figure of him or not though.  I bought and displayed the Vong that came with Katarn, and I'll get "That's Amore" too.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 28, 2011, 04:21 PM
I love most EU, so I am not an EU hater at all. Nom on the other hand...he looks even dumber in the Senate Pod. At least if he is in the armor outfit he may be good for customs. I will get him as I buy by the case but I refuse to have an extra to go on my carded wall.

I am glad to see my 97% of the time agreement rate still holds with JJ! ;)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on January 28, 2011, 04:36 PM
I'm afraid we're getting something more like this:

At least if he is in the armor outfit he may be good for customs.

Since the Hasbro prototype (shown in my post above) was built off that hooded, armored look from Crimson Empire II (the comic series on which the cancelled comic pack was going to be based), I'd say yeah there's a good chance that's what we're getting. :P
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on January 28, 2011, 04:39 PM
Other than the obvious cash grab, Hasbro needs to relook at the clone in every wave deal they have going, especially with most of them hanging on the pegs right next to the Vintage figs.  Who in their right mind is going to pay $2-$3 more for the same figure...I get the cost savings, but I'd rather them rerelease 2003-2007 stuff (Han, Chewbacca, Snowtrooper, IG-88 etc) than Prequel Clones and Commanders.  Same concept only more towards the true spirit of "vintage" and $2-$3 cheaper than what we paid back then :P.  Heck, extend that to good POTJ-Legacy figures that haven't been on vintage cards before recarding more clones:

Amanaman
FX-7
Paploo/Romba/Warok/Chief Chirpa
AT-ST Driver
Luke Skywalker (Stormtrooper)
Zuckuss
Bespin Guard
B-Wing Pilot
A-Wing Pilot
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 28, 2011, 04:52 PM
^^^^^WORD!!!^^^^^^
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Morgbug on January 28, 2011, 05:17 PM
Who is Nom Anor ???

An excellent EU character. If you hate EU then you won't care, but I don't hate EU and loved his character.

I don't hate EU, I just don't bother following it much at all.  I do think it can be a pretty dicey proposition for a Hasbro toy release though (yes, even moreso than a Willrow Hood type of release) simply because I think a lot of fans are out there like me that don't have a clue or follow EU at all.  I readily acknowledge there are a lot of hardcore and dedicated EU fans but I think they'd be a subset of what Hasbro views as collectors and we all know how much they aim their stuff at collectors.  So I see it as a subset of a subset and that second subset gets some love, but not as much as the kiddos. 
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Matt on January 28, 2011, 05:23 PM
Who is Nom Anor ???

Goddamnit Brent.   ::)

Nom Anor was a male Yuuzhan Vong who played a crucial role in the Yuuzhan Vong War and was marked by his ambition, sense of self-preservation, doubt in the Yuuzhan Vong's gods, and skill in many fields. A member of the intendant caste, Anor was one of the leaders among the Yuuzhan Vong in the galaxy prior to the species' invasion. Anor helped prolong the Galactic Civil War, and weakened potential foes to the Yuuzhan Vong. In 25 ABY, the Yuuzhan Vong War began as the Yuuzhan Vong invaded the galaxy, with the Praetorite Vong leading the way. Anor assisted the Praetorite Vong, though the organization was defeated.

The main fleet then entered the galaxy, cutting a bloody swathe towards the Core. Anor helped in many operations, such as plotting with the Priest Harrar to eliminate Jedi, and sabotaging New Republic efforts to restore the planet Duro. Anor dealt frequently with Warmaster Tsavong Lah, a rival of his. A skilled spy, diplomat, and firebrand, Anor stirred up unrest throughout the galaxy, weakening the New Republic. Two years into the war, the Yuuzhan Vong captured the capital of Coruscant. Anor began dealing directly with Supreme Overlord Shimrra, providing intelligence that allowed the Yuuzhan Vong to attack the New Republic at Ebaq 9. However, it was a trap, and the Yuuzhan Vong forces were defeated, causing Shimrra to call for Anor's head.

Anor fled into the underbelly of Coruscant, where he became involved with the Jeedai heresy, a dissident sect of Yuuzhan Vong who cursed Shimrra and saw the Jedi as their saviors. Seeking a way to gain power, the ambitious Anor unified the heretics. Taking the identity of Yu'shaa, a self-proclaimed prophet, he became the leader of a powerful, rapidly-growing movement. However, when given the chance, he turned his back on the heresy to rejoin Shimrra's court in a higher rank. He began to rue the movement he had strengthened, as the heresy had gained a life of its own. In the final days of the war, Anor began to doubt Shimrra, seeing him as insane. The war came to a close in the Second Battle of Coruscant. Taking up the mantle of Yu'shaa once more, Anor attempted to lead the heretics to victory. Ultimately, he was captured by the Jedi, while the Yuuzhan Vong surrendered after the death of Shimrra. Realizing that the future held nothing but uncertainty for him, Anor chose to remain on a disintegrating ship as it crashed into Coruscant's surface.

Every person who calls themselves a Star Wars fan should know this.  Jesus.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scockery on January 28, 2011, 06:33 PM
Nom Anor, broke my heart, now I'm aching for you!

Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 28, 2011, 11:22 PM
Keep bringing on those OT characters. Hoping that "Barada" character stays true.

I keep forgetting that the figures so far have been solid rumors, so I'm still waiting for a real surprise of too.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on January 29, 2011, 01:07 AM
Vinty carded Luke AND Han Stormtroopers side-by-side would be pretty slick I think. :)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 29, 2011, 08:38 AM
Who is Nom Anor ???

An excellent EU character. If you hate EU then you won't care, but I don't hate EU and loved his character.

I don't hate EU, I just don't bother following it much at all.  I do think it can be a pretty dicey proposition for a Hasbro toy release though (yes, even moreso than a Willrow Hood type of release) simply because I think a lot of fans are out there like me that don't have a clue or follow EU at all.  I readily acknowledge there are a lot of hardcore and dedicated EU fans but I think they'd be a subset of what Hasbro views as collectors and we all know how much they aim their stuff at collectors.  So I see it as a subset of a subset and that second subset gets some love, but not as much as the kiddos.  

I agree that Hasbro would lose big if they did this a lot. But how often do we get an acutal EU fig? Using the definition that CW isn't EU and especially OT isn't EU. So every once in a while isn't gonna kill anyone. I just think some of the outrage that people have is humerous. I have to poke a little jab in at them. Let me have my figure and then I'll wait a while for the next one to come.

I love a great upgrade to Han or Luke, but I also like to add a new character to the collection here and there
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Darby on January 29, 2011, 12:02 PM
I'll be real curious to see how popular Nom Anor is.  I have no idea who he is either, and no interest in him as a result.  I think Hasbro should use the opportunity they have here and really fill in some of those blanks lifers are looking for - Luke/Han Troopers, Tarkin, Slave Leia, etc. - before the line goes away.  That too me is more exciting that Clone #1000 or General Lando really. 
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Nicklab on January 29, 2011, 01:54 PM
General lack of broad interest in Nom Anor = Excellent argument in support of shortpacking figures.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on January 29, 2011, 05:11 PM
I would not be surprised if a Nom Anor figure is more popular than the following vintage offerings:

4-LOM
Dengar
ROTS White Clone
Utapau Clone
Super Battle Droid
Stormtrooper
General Lando
Commander Gree

The clones and Stormies would probably be fine if not for the ridiculous helmets, so that's not so much a character selection issue as it is terrible quality by Hasbro.  I'd add the Yavin Han to the list, but something tells me he might sell okay despite the horrible head.

And I have no problem with wanting characters like Tarkin, Death Star Trooper, etc. made first, but I'd rather see a new figure like Nom Anor in the line than repacks like 4-LOM and Gree, or even bad attempts at upgrades like those Phase 2 clones... that's the problem with vintage, not a character selection like Nom Anor.  I wouldn't be surprised at all in a few years if he has high secondary market value like some of the other notable EU figures.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Rob on January 29, 2011, 06:45 PM
I'm not into the EU stuff at all, but I did read a bunch of those books back in high school and college.  The NJO series was the last thing I read, so I suppose for that reason, I wouldn't mind Nom Anor too much.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 29, 2011, 10:26 PM
I'm not into the EU stuff at all, but I did read a bunch of those books back in high school and college.  The NJO series was the last thing I read, so I suppose for that reason, I wouldn't mind Nom Anor too much.

High school and college?  I was living in Alaska when these came out and been in the Air Force for 7 years already!  Damn I feel old.   :D
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Rob on January 30, 2011, 12:06 AM
I'm not into the EU stuff at all, but I did read a bunch of those books back in high school and college.  The NJO series was the last thing I read, so I suppose for that reason, I wouldn't mind Nom Anor too much.

High school and college?  I was living in Alaska when these came out and been in the Air Force for 7 years already!  Damn I feel old.   :D

I started wondering if that might be wrong so I looked it up.  Looks like the series started in 1999, which was the year I graduated high-school.  So yeah, basically I read that series while I was in college. 

You're not alone though, thinking about how long ago that was has me feeling old too.   :P
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Morgbug on January 30, 2011, 12:14 AM
Feel better now?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on January 30, 2011, 12:36 AM
I know I do.  Thanks Brent!
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on February 12, 2011, 02:11 PM
Most of these were confirmed too...still waiting for final details on the lineup
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on February 12, 2011, 06:12 PM
Final Line-Up is:
Kithaba
Dr Evazan
Aayla Secura
Nom Anor
501st Clone Trooper

Ponda got bumped to Wave 9 it seems...

Nom Anor comes with a bunch of removable stuff (armor and spikes/bones).  That way you can leave him plain or ugly him up, depending on how you like your Vong.

Aayla looked really nice.  Same with Kithaba.  501st... meh, another version of an over-done clone.

Evazan was so sweet.  Great looking figure and he totally blows the PotF2 monstrosity out of the water.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scockery on February 12, 2011, 06:55 PM
How will they fit the tall Vong weapon on Nom's card?

Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: McMetal on February 12, 2011, 07:36 PM
Why did Nom Anor look nothing like the version they showed in the slide show? The thing I saw on display looked like some cheesy Skeletor knock-off.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on February 12, 2011, 07:39 PM
(http://www.yakfaceforums.com/Chewie/021211tf28.jpg)

Liking how this turned out, might get quite a few if I can find them.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on February 12, 2011, 11:28 PM
Love this wave, and the highlight is the good Doc Evazan...  This schlub has been hosed since POTF2 for a decent figure, and that's a shame considering he's in such a cool sequence.  They even nailed the fairly slovenly pot belly he has going on.  I love it!  My only gripe is Hasbro refuses to make the thigh-safety-strap for holsters a separately sculpted piece on the holster itself (ala Bespin Luke) as a standard feature.  It really should be because it doesn't hinder that Luke's poseability in the slightest.

Nom Anor is about what I thought.  I wonder if his staff will be 2-parts to fit better?  I'm not overly interested in him but I'll pick one up.

Aayla Secura...  Really another outstanding update to a jedi.  Count me in so she can whip some ass on my Jedi shelf.  I'ts kinda hard to retire teh ROTS figure so she may wind up in a fighter, if I ever buy her fighter down the road some day.

Kithaba...  LOVE Him!  Finally a good Klattooinian in the line!  The last one we got was a repaint of the POTF2 3-pack figure.  I love the cross-draw, the depth...  Easily my second favorite of the wave behind Evazan, and only because I like Evazan's character a bit more.  This is a great Jabba Goon figure though.  Bring on more updates like that!

Nice looking wave all around.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on February 13, 2011, 12:32 AM
Anyone seen a better image of the 501 clone's helmet from the actual on site pics?  I've seen several of the figure, but the camera is always situated to where you can't really see the helmet.  

(http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6172/medium/TOY_0125_resize.JPG)

^ The only one I've seen is from sirstevesguide.com, but you can't see much because the Stormtrooper is in the way due to how Hasbro displayed the figures.

Basically, I am just wondering if this is a new helmet, or the same one Hasbro is currently using in the vintage line (which I hate).

Thanks!
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: 501ST on February 13, 2011, 02:46 AM
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1660/501legionclone.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Darby on February 13, 2011, 11:14 AM
the 501st figure seems to be based off the AOTC clone in the next vintage wave, unless I'm seeing things (not the helmet, obviously). 

Does anyone else think Kithaba is really skinny?  Oh, well.  Kithaba!  Nom Anor is whatever for me, so there goes the complete carded collection.  It's a relief, actually. 
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on February 13, 2011, 11:22 AM
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1660/501legionclone.jpg)

I have seen that - thank you... what I'm looking for is one from the display.  I did see another at Banthaskull that shows a bit more than the other pic I showed... I just wish they'd give this figure a nice helmet rather than the ginormous one we see on pegs right now.  If we get that big unshapely one, I'll save a lot of money on this figure.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 13, 2011, 08:29 PM
Whoah, that's really an impressive Nom Anor sculpt! I'm really into the EU, but I had never seen this guy before, but the sculpt is just really cool... I think Hasbro could have saved themself the trouble of trying to eventually fit him into those Vintage bubbles by giving him a soft-goods cloak, but whatever...

Aayla is just outright awesome! The Jedi Cloak is generous, really, since we never see her with one in the films, but I think the key points to the figure are the ball-jointed hips.

I really like the 501st Trooper - probably an eventual pegwarmer, but lately (except for the ROTS clone) Hasbro's been doing a good job with clone sculpts. But they just really need to take a break from the clones, it's getting old, and, besides, we see them all the time in the TCW line. 
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on February 13, 2011, 09:31 PM
Aayla is just outright awesome! The Jedi Cloak is generous, really, since we never see her with one in the films, but I think the key points to the figure are the ball-jointed hips.

I could be wrong but I think Aayla is seen in the temple with a robe on at one point or another.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Matt R. on February 13, 2011, 11:22 PM
I wish they have done the utapau clone with the new body instead of the one they used
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on February 13, 2011, 11:54 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/TF2011_StarWars_0121.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/TF2011_StarWars_0120.jpg)

Kithaba has been one of my most wanted figures for the last 8 years, they nailed the likeness and I am pumped to check another off the Vintage Update List :)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on February 14, 2011, 12:05 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/TF2011_StarWars_0109.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/TF2011_StarWars_0071.jpg)

Passing on this dude, although he looks fairly well done
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on February 14, 2011, 12:06 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/TF2011_StarWars_0105.jpg)

Wasn't too hip on a new Aayla...but I'll probably pick one up
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on February 14, 2011, 12:19 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/TF2011_StarWars_0010.jpg)

Evazan is another long time want...glad to see him and the absolutely nailed this one
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on February 14, 2011, 02:44 AM
I noticed between the promo photo, and the floor room photo, that Evazan's holster has moved too.  I'm thinking just off-hand that the right side is correct.  I'm wondering if the thigh-strap is a thigh-strap or just something from the costume's details or what.  Full-length Evazan production shots exist and might clear the mystery up.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 14, 2011, 09:21 AM
Although I'm not excited about every figure in this wave, I very excited about all the OT ones and can't wait. They're look excellent.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 14, 2011, 10:30 PM
Why did Nom Anor look nothing like the version they showed in the slide show? The thing I saw on display looked like some cheesy Skeletor knock-off.

Either way he looks like this to me. I am sorry but this is the dumbest and most non Star Wars looking figure ever. Since I buy by the case I will have no choice but to get him but I will not allow this near my collection.

I love the rest of the wave especially Aayla, the head sculpt is spot on!
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: speedermike on February 14, 2011, 11:06 PM
I agree...I want to like the EU, but corny designs like this just don't connect with me.

If I don't buy him, it would be the first totally newly sculpted figure on a single card that I pass on in 16 years!

Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on February 15, 2011, 12:51 AM
I agree...I want to like the EU, but corny designs like this just don't connect with me.

If I don't buy him, it would be the first totally newly sculpted figure on a single card that I pass on in 16 years!

I've still proudly never bought AOTC Jar Jar...  I'm really happy about that.  I had always intended to, to have a complete loose collection.  Every POS was game at that time.  As the line's aged, my opinion on that has too.  Being so die-hard that I'd buy anything regardless of how big a failure it is faded with me in the last 6 years.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: speedermike on February 15, 2011, 12:16 PM
I agree.  But I've bought them all. I have a few regrets, mostly during the AOTC era as well.  That waitress droid was awful.  But for 5 or 6 bucks, buying one here and there that I didn't really like didn't kill me, because I too have a complete loose set.  (Oddly, except for the AOTC Legacy wave that I never saw...)

But vinatge is 10.99 at Target where I live, and I don't get to Wal-Mart much, so saving that money is a big deal.  I mean, for every two Vintage I pass up, that's a nice little Lego set.

BTW, I don't hate EU.  I really liked the TRU exclusive wave.  While I didn't know much about the characters, they at least FELT like SW.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 15, 2011, 05:17 PM
BTW, I don't hate EU.  I really liked the TRU exclusive wave.  While I didn't know much about the characters, they at least FELT like SW.

They really do feel like SWs and they were great figures.

After these few posts we should start a thread for everyone's top 10 most hated figures.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on February 15, 2011, 07:28 PM
Ironically the waitress probably isn't a regret of mine...  She's a statue more or less, but she's at least accurate.  I'd put just about anything I bought at full price from the first few waves as a "regret".  Fortunately for me I didn't buy much for full price back then.  The line was so far in the ******* compared to what I actually enjoyed.  POTJ had been pretty great then 2002 just turned into a punch in the gut.

A most hated figures list would be funny.  I know my #1 and #2 right away.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on February 16, 2011, 12:21 AM
I noticed between the promo photo, and the floor room photo, that Evazan's holster has moved too.  I'm thinking just off-hand that the right side is correct.  I'm wondering if the thigh-strap is a thigh-strap or just something from the costume's details or what.  Full-length Evazan production shots exist and might clear the mystery up.

It's not just the belt - the whole waist part is on backwards in the press photo.  Look at it again - the press pic has his shirt "closed" below the belt (backwards), but the guy in the showroom has an "open" shirt under the belt (correct). ;)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/Collector_Presentation/Slide20.JPG)
VS
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/TF2011_StarWars_0095.jpg)


So, on the right side is correct, as shown in the Toy Fare protoype pic:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/evazan.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Mister Skeezler on May 2, 2011, 07:33 PM
Nom Anor is crappety crap, but Evazan and Aayla look superb!

I'm not against EU by any means, there's just a multitude of characters I'd love to see before any of that Vong ****. For instance, I would commit willing genocide against the Yuzhan Vong people for a Noghri action figure...and I would kill a Yuzhan Vong baby—in front of it's own mother—for a decent Mara Jade as the Emperor's hand figure. Hell, I would push Dorme into some Mustafar lava for Mara Jade.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 6, 2011, 12:23 PM
So does anyone know what the status of this Waves release is? Will this now be the July wave since the other wave got bumped. I was puzzled when the Revenge cases showed up for preorder when this wave was slotted first for June.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on June 6, 2011, 04:00 PM
No news, hopefully soon.  I could see this coming in late Summer though, like maybe late August or September.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 6, 2011, 05:11 PM
No news, hopefully soon.  I could see this coming in late Summer though, like maybe late August or September.

Thanks bud! I hope I have two gaping holes in my cantina with the good Dr. and Ponda (I know Ponda is fall.). I also sold all of my 501's to make room for the new style.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on July 19, 2011, 11:16 AM
So, the million dollar question now becomes... what happened to this wave?  ???

It's obvious from the EE and BBTS case pre-orders that both the Wave 9.5 "Revenge" revision cases (now listed as Wave 8 ) AND the main Wave 9 case (still Wave 9) have leapfrogged this one in the release order.

Makes you wonder if this one will end up being "Wave 10" or if it will get pushed back farther, maybe even into 2012?  :-\
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on July 19, 2011, 11:25 PM
This is why the whole "reboot" of the line being discussed in the other thread is swirling around in my head even more.  This could be a part of something Hasbro's trying to do, to better the line overall in the long run.

Or I'm trying to be a glass half-full kind of guy for the first time maybe, I dunno.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 21, 2011, 05:00 AM
The little card-thing in front of Ponda Baba at SDCC indicates August or September, I think. I would imagine the rest of this wave hits in between that time frame. 
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2011, 01:34 PM
It sounds like we might be waiting a while longer for this wave... from the Q&A at JTA (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=8246)

"Hasbro: As we also mention elsewhere in this month's Q&A, some Vintage figures planned for 2011 were moved to 2012.  We will share full details on this change and the affected figures at San Diego Comic-Con.."
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on October 15, 2011, 12:45 AM
Happy to see this wave finally locked into the schedule again, hopefully it stays put this time because I'm really looking forward to the good Doctor and Kithaba. :)

Also nice to see Wedge land in this wave since I never saw any signs of him last time around...

"Vintage" Collection Wave 13 (2012 Wave 4)
  2012 VC28 Wedge Antilles (Rebel Pilot) {re-release}
  2012 VC56 Kithaba
  2012 VC57 Doctor Evazan
  2012 VC58 Aayla Secura
  2012 VC59 Nom Anor
  2012 VC60 501st Legion Trooper

Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JediJman on October 15, 2011, 01:22 AM
Any word on whether the Wedge is the same package or something new?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Matt R. on October 15, 2011, 01:30 AM
Any word on whether the Wedge is the same package or something new?

It going to be same in the front but have the new style back.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 15, 2011, 01:47 AM
So glad I took a gamble and got a "non mint" VC28 from EE a few months back. Now I can just skip this re-release or just use this opportunity to get one to open.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 15, 2011, 03:23 AM
Dang, that 501st trooper looks pretty spiffy in those Hasbro displays at NY Toy Fair...
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on February 2, 2012, 12:53 PM
Looks like the four Walmart "DtF" TPM figures that are being carried forward to the Vintage line will be shipping in this wave according to a rumored case pack (via the rumor thread via RS):

986924840 SW VC28 REBEL PILOT WEDGE
985274840 SW VC56 KITHABA
985284840 SW VC57 DR. CORNELIUS EVAZAN
985244840 SW VC58 AAYLA SECURA
985254840 SW VC59 NOM ANOR
985264840 SW VC60 501ST CLONE TROOPER
985314840 SW VC71 MAWHONIC
985294840 SW VC72 NABOO PILOT W/DUSTER
985324840 SW VC73 AURRA SING
985334840 SW VC74 GUNGAN WARRIOR
269664840 SW EPI QUI-GON
375114840 SW EPV LUKE
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2012, 02:44 PM
That's cool and almost compelling to own them just for the cardbacks but yeah, if I can nab them at WM first I think I'll do so and skip their Vintage counterparts.

I think Wedge is the only figure I'm going to be kind of desperate to get just for its card.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 2, 2012, 07:02 PM
That's cool and almost compelling to own them just for the cardbacks but yeah, if I can nab them at WM first I think I'll do so and skip their Vintage counterparts.

I think Wedge is the only figure I'm going to be kind of desperate to get just for its card.

true, but then there is the comfort of ordering the entire case here, skipping the WM versions, and then I believe only really needing to try and unload (via Target exchange) the Qui-Gon
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2012, 07:08 PM
another good point...  Might be way easier to do that, just wait on getting the figures ultimately, and also get the cards.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 2, 2012, 08:20 PM
yeah - I really might look at going the case route.  I will probably still pick up the WM exclusive figures when I see them and not open them and hold on to the receipt just to be safe of not losing out on the figures - WM receipt is good for 3 months.  Then, when and if this case comes true, pre-order it and take the exclusives back.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2012, 09:57 PM
I thought WM receipts were good even longer.  I've returned some real old stuff, haha.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on February 2, 2012, 10:14 PM
Yeah, if that list is true then I'll be going the case route as well, for a couple of waves. I was really hoping this wave would have some good case mates mixed in. I look forward to confirmation at toyfair.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: jono on February 16, 2012, 11:53 AM
Forbidden planet uk has recently put this wave up as available May 30 ...so you guys should has these end of April/early may time, yeah?

Oddley enough the  mighty Kithaba isn't up for order as part of this wave. But i would't worry FP's website makes oversights like this all the time.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on February 29, 2012, 07:53 PM
Wave 4.1 Revision Case Pre-Order (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS37499D1)

Not a shabby assortment, including Evazan and Kithaba and other stuff in there...  That's a damn good case other than QGJ...  to me he's just fodder for a Jedi custom at some point too.   :o

Get to orderin'!

Sadly though, and unexplainably, they dropped the DST...  An army builder people really want, something they brought back to Legends last year, and it's missing in a revision case.  That's odd.  :-\
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2012, 08:50 PM
Weird they have this up before Wave 12...and I agree JJ...dump Ratts and put in DST
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Greg on February 29, 2012, 10:06 PM
Sadly though, and unexplainably, they dropped the DST...  An army builder people really want, something they brought back to Legends last year, and it's missing in a revision case.  That's odd.  :-\

It is also a character that has peg warmed the last two times it was released. I can't see how reshipping Qui-Gon and the pod racer is a better idea though, so perhaps we would be ****** either way.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Diddly on February 29, 2012, 10:30 PM
I might actually preorder this case... Qui-Gon can easily be taken back to Target. Ratts I don't have yet, and I want another Blu-Ray Luke anyway.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on February 29, 2012, 11:08 PM
Actually around me the DST Legends figure did ok...  Not smashingly great, but ok.  None were to be found when clearance came up or I'd have bought.  Says something about it I think... 

Plus the 2007 release was in one of the most heavily shipped waves, and he reshipped and reshipped...  Did he pegwarm, or just get overshipped?  I think that's something in this hobby that's largely been glossed over and ignored.  I consider that a big issue these days when pegwarming/distribution/case assortments comes up.

I questioned that Legends DST last year too, in part because I felt he pegwarmed in 2007 at the time, and in part because I wasn't wild about the figure overall (It's ok to customize into something better but it is lacking).  But I've rethought pegwarming a bit in the last couple years...  I think, like the clean Clones or Sandtroopers and such, sometimes a character sees more overshipping in a short(er) time frame causing him to be a pegwarmer, rather than that he was a "natural pegwarmer" where he really shipped sparingly but still didn't sell.

I think I started thinking about that a lot last year when those Legends figures everyone hated were moving at Target...  I noted it at the time, but I kept going, about once or twice a week, and buying a BD 2-pack...  Every time I got one, I noticed new Spacetroopers and other new Legends, but also that the pegs weren't overflowing by any means, just always a new case replenishing.  They went through a lot, DST's included for whatever reason.  They weren't the best sellers, but ultimately I didn't find a single one on clearance either so I think they did alright.

I found more AOTC Clones and Hoth han than anything, at all retailers, on clearance...  Han, who knows.  But the Clone had basically himself or something very like him available all year...  Maybe the DST just had enough down time that the Legends figure ultimately made a little sense?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 1, 2012, 08:52 AM
Weird they have this up before Wave 12...

that is what I am saying plus, this says rev 4.1, what is going to be in the normal, non-revision case?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on March 1, 2012, 09:59 AM
Considering this should have been 2011 Wave 4 and has been bounced around the schedule so many times already in the past year, I'm not surprised it might sneak out before the Hoth Luke wave. 

As for "what's in the normal non-revision case", we'll have to wait and see.  Perhaps the non-revision case was the original planned 2011 pack-out of this wave and this .1 revision case is the 2012 pack-out?  Or maybe it's one of those odd situations where the revision case hits before the non-revision case (which has happened a few times in the past).  Or maybe the case-pack sucks so bad EE skipped it altogether? :P
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 1, 2012, 10:24 AM
yeah I was thinking about it, and maybe since this wave has been jumbled so much maybe it is like the 2010-2011 ROTJ wave that had like 11 revisions or something and I am pretty sure it did not have a normal, non-revision listing.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on March 1, 2012, 02:30 PM
Or maybe the case-pack sucks so bad EE skipped it altogether? :P

Just curious but are they allowed to pick/choose?

If so, good call on their part.  The original Wave 4 was probably packed with E1 figures, and maybe it was a pre-emptive strike on their part.  E1 figures in every case till August is rough to stomach.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2012, 04:22 PM
Vintage Wave 13 Regular Case (2012 Vintage Wave 4) (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS37499D) is now posted...

Much more tolerable, but to get Wedgie it looks like you're going to have to order one case, and to get all the other repacks you want, you have to get this one.  That stings.

This is a much more appealing case to me though.  One, maybe two figures in there I don't want, and the rest I'd be happy to add to my collection, or add more of them to my collection.

2012 Wave 3's case hurts, and there really should be a revision of that one.  Yikes.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 14, 2012, 07:48 PM
I just did the 4.1 preorder since they are both arriving May supposedly - I am pretty sick of going to stores and finding nothing...

here is a code for $15 off your order at EE.com:  2101122
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on March 15, 2012, 03:37 AM
And just like that, we have some early carded images of some of this wave...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/012Vin_Wave13KithabaCarded01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1331796588,75783,)
Clicky the picky to go to the story!

Also some Wave 12/2012 Wave 3 figures in there too.

Kithaba just looks great, but I'm predicting the one figure is going to irk some folks.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: McMetal on March 15, 2012, 08:59 AM
Kithaba just looks great, but I'm predicting the one figure is going to irk some folks.

I guess I am slow on the uptake...which one and why?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scockery on March 15, 2012, 09:24 AM
The big helmeted fool or the EU tool?

It is cool they are making 3 3/4" toys based on the 80's Masters of the Universe movie. I'd think Mattel would have the rights, though.  :P
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on March 15, 2012, 09:35 AM
To me Kithaba seems tall and skinny
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on March 15, 2012, 11:49 AM
That EU thing better ship in small quantities.  My totally non-scientific observations show that the Quinlan Vos is the real pegwarmer of the TPM wave, and not surprisingly so.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scockery on March 15, 2012, 01:17 PM
Maybe it'll be like Bastila Shan and ship in no quantities.

I somehow doubt Nom de Guerre there will be a peg warmer. It'll be the episode 1 reships that will be around and around...except maybe Maul.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on March 15, 2012, 02:34 PM
The big helmeted fool or the EU tool?

The former...  I think not everyone is going to like that.  There's some distortion going on there too, could be the packaging though.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 15, 2012, 02:43 PM
I do this every time and I should just let it go but I can't, YAY FOR NOM ANOR!!!!!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My dream is for the day when no one can ever buy another figure because every Target, TRU, WM is so overstocked with EU figs and has no need to re order.  ::)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: P-Siddy on March 15, 2012, 04:35 PM
I do this every time and I should just let it go but I can't, YAY FOR NOM ANOR!!!!!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My dream is for the day when no one can ever buy another figure because every Target, TRU, WM is so overstocked with EU figs and has no need to re order.  ::)

That's when everyone from the forums buys the EU figures and dumps them on your favorite story.  ;)  :-*
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 15, 2012, 08:07 PM
I wish that were the case.  I never saw Bastilla Shan and I really want to get Malgus and Nom Anor.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on March 16, 2012, 12:49 PM
Why on Earth is Hasbro still using those horribly over-sized helmets on the clones?  Good grief. 
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scockery on March 16, 2012, 01:56 PM
Why on Earth is Hasbro still using those horribly over-sized helmets on the clones?  Good grief.

So everyone can buy a "corrected" version next year or whenever.

I'm probably giving them too much credit there.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on April 7, 2012, 01:40 AM
Some very dreamy pics in several Ebay auctions...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/012Vin_EarlyAaylaLoose01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/012Vin_EarlyDocELoose01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/012Vin_EarlyKithabaLoose01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/012Vin_EarlySortaLateActuallyWedgeLoose01_TN.jpg) (http://stores.ebay.com/Unique-saga/Star-Wars-/_i.html?rt=nc&_fsub=2385448010&_sid=837819050&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=2)
Clicky to visit the store.

Lots of loose pics, which are always nice, but yeah I really like this wave...  except Nom Anor.  At the prices things cost now, I really feel compelled not to buy stuff like that.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 7, 2012, 07:51 AM
there are some really nice Hi-def picks up for other auctions by this guy now.  Kithaba does look smaller than what I would have imagined him to be

edit:  so Nom Anor Doesn't come with a hood?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on April 7, 2012, 02:11 PM
Awesome, except for this...

(http://www.yakfaceforums.com/Chewie/040712helmet.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Nicklab on April 7, 2012, 02:20 PM
Why on Earth is Hasbro still using those horribly over-sized helmets on the clones?  Good grief. 

It was an over-reaction to the Clones that had been released in the Episode III line.  Those Clone Troopers that had removable helmets looked okay with the helmets on.  But with the helmets off, they looked like pinheads.

You have to suspect that some of this is rooted in the fact that the Clone Troopers were all CG in Episode II & Episode III.  The helmets never had to be a practical prop that would be put on or removed like the Stormtrooper helmets of the OT.  If you look at a Clone Trooper image side by side with a Stormtrooper from the OT, you're going to notice a significant difference in the size of the two helmets.  The Stormtrooper helmets are much bigger in comparison because of the needs of the practical prop.  The Clone helmets in contrast don't appear to have been designed for practical use.  And it looks as though that sizing issue has had the added effect of impacting the Clone Trooper action figure when there's a removable helmet in the mix.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on April 7, 2012, 08:11 PM
Only two clones in the ROTS line had removable helmets that I remember - the AT-TE Gunner mold... those don't look like pinheads to me... and the ones in the 2006/2007 line that had grunt helmets also were oversized and their heads didn't seem pin headed to me either... but now with the premium line of vintage, I think all excuses for Hasbro are out the window... hell, they've also done similar things and screwed up Stormtroopers too (remember Joker Squad?  YIKES!).

I mean, really - if they can do THIS (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/html/tac/07.html), then I don't see there being any reason whatsoever for not being able to get Phase 2 grunt ones to look nice too.  Maybe they just need to drop the removable helmet feature if this accuracy is too complex for them, and go with alternate heads like they did HERE (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TCW/02/lf20.html).

We're being asked to pay around $10 a figure now... this isn't too much to ask in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Nicklab on April 7, 2012, 08:45 PM
Look at the original Clone Commander Cody (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tsc/024/lf3.html).  That figure came across looking like a pinhead.  Now, compare that with the remade Commander Cody figure (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TVC/basicfigures/VC19/lf.html) from the Vintage Collection, and you'll see a noticeably larger helmet.  The Airborne Trooper you cited looks good, but it's a completely different helmet design from the standard phase II armor's helmet.

There may be some other issues at work here.  Notably the toy safety standards that came to light with toys produced in China in the past few years.  Those issues ranged from hazardous paints to potential choking hazards.   And a small accessory like a helmet might have been seen as one of those hazards.  Additionally, these standards might also dictate the grade of plastic that can be used in an item like a helmet.  A more rigid plastic might make for a helmet that looks more film accurate, but might not put the design in compliance with child safety standards.  I'm certainly not trying to apologize for Hasbro.  But this sort of criteria likely seems to be at work.

I think the better option is to go with something along the lines of the CW Obi-Wan Kenobi you mentioned:  2 seperate heads that are interchangeable.  But in that case Hasbro is going to be dealing with slightly more expensive tooling, and we the consumers, are going to have to eat that cost increase at some point.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on April 8, 2012, 12:59 AM
I look at the Clone as the "throw away" of the wave...  He's the costing out filler.  It's like if we got Fleet Troopers at some point, with a new head or something, and the helmet was maybe too tight now...  At least they gave us something cool as said "filler" to balance out the wave's overall cost.

This isn't really a cool figure, the helmet is eh... 

I like removable helmets, personally, and would rather have them than not.  Then again I don't plan on buying 90 of this trooper to replace my army.  1, maybe 2?  Short of a good sale and plenty of these hanging about...  If they screwed up Evazan in a big way I'd be far more annoyed, but I don't care I guess.  I agree though, anything for $10 is pretty much excuseless when it's bonered up.  I don't see the helmet as a massive deal though.  Had it been goofed on the Death Star Trooper, I'd likely be far more annoyed since he was basically an all new figure replacing something that's pretty weak to begin with, without major adjusting.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: P-Siddy on April 8, 2012, 08:50 AM
It's like if we got Fleet Troopers at some point, with a new head or something, and the helmet was maybe too tight now...  At least they gave us something cool as said "filler" to balance out the wave's overall cost.

You mean you wouldn't want a working holster, too?  ;)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on April 9, 2012, 01:14 AM
Hah, like that would happen.  ::)  Come on!  Only Cantina guys all were packin' with holsters.  Why would soldiers?  Silliness, I tells ya.
Title: Re: Wave 5
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 12, 2012, 03:04 PM
my wave 4.1 case is pending from EE right!  card has the charge pending.   ;D

looks like they didn't apply my $15 off coupon I used, but maybe they will once the charge goes all the way through
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on April 12, 2012, 03:13 PM
My EE pre-order for Wave 4.1 is processing too. :) 

The site listing still says May 2012 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS37499D1&id=HA-807301583), so they must not have received a ton of these cases in their latest  delivery...
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 12, 2012, 03:21 PM
didnt 4.1 use to have Ratts in it?  Now it has Maul
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on April 12, 2012, 04:59 PM
If you want to order, they're still there...  I may pick up one of these, I think.  Not sure.  *sigh*

2012 Vinty Wave 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS37499D) & 2012 Vinty Wave 4.1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS37499D1)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 12, 2012, 07:00 PM
got my shipping confirmation.  it looks like they charged me the full amount.  I will give them a call in the morning to get the adjustment ($15)

update:  just remembered they are out over on the West coast and were still open.  I gave them a call and are issuing me the refund.  Excellent customer as always from EE.

Also, this is now officially my very first case of SW figures I have ever ordered   ;D   and my coincidentally first Evazan to have in my collection    8)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on April 12, 2012, 11:03 PM
It seems like the tunghori hole was plugged as no new SW seems to be coming out of there lately...now I have to actually look for a Naval trooper or two after just getting this case from EE (and on its way!!)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 13, 2012, 05:58 AM
Of the 3 cases in stock at EE right now, I am only considering ordering one of them, wave 4:

1x Darth Maul (Phantom Menace)
1x VC58 Aayla Secura
1x VC59 Nom Anor
1x VC56 Kithaba (Barada)
1x VC57 Dr. Cornelius Evazan
1x VC51 Barriss Offee
1x VC50 Han Solo (Bespin Gear)
1x VC53 Bom Vimdin
1x VC54 ARC Trooper Commander (Fordo)
1x VC55 Logray (Ewok Medicine Man)
1x VC52 Rebel Fleet Trooper
1x VC21 Gamorrean Guard

I've been sitting here for 10 minutes thinking about it, too.  Still on the fence.  I really only need  Kithaba, Evazan, Nom Anor and Aayla.  Wouldn't mind a Gammie or RFT even though I already have a dozen of each.  Still that's only half the case I need or wouldn't mind. 

The wave 3 and wave 4.1 aren't even close.  I really only care about the Naval Trooper.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Phrubruh on April 13, 2012, 09:17 AM
I'm willing to split the case with you.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 13, 2012, 09:51 AM
I'd really consider the 4.1 case. I nearly pulled the trigger, but I'd be ordering two cases.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on April 13, 2012, 11:44 AM
I ordered a case of Wave 4... I can't remember the last time I ordered a case of anything?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 13, 2012, 07:48 PM
dang, just saw that Fedex is saying this case wont get to me in Indiana until 4/21! 
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Captain Piet on April 14, 2012, 02:56 PM
got my shipping confirmation.  it looks like they charged me the full amount.  I will give them a call in the morning to get the adjustment ($15)

update:  just remembered they are out over on the West coast and were still open.  I gave them a call and are issuing me the refund.  Excellent customer as always from EE.

Also, this is now officially my very first case of SW figures I have ever ordered   ;D   and my coincidentally first Evazan to have in my collection    8)

I checked my order and, what do you know, same thing. I've sent EE an email. Shouldn't have to be that way. That we placed orders with a code and confirmed it upon checkout only to be charged a different amount is tantamount to fraud. Excellent customer service is not constituted by honoring the price I AGREED to pay. That's an expectation. Sorry, but EE again proves sneaky here.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 19, 2012, 04:27 PM
Got my 4.1 case today!  All of the figures have flawless paint apps from what I can tell so far - I will open them later.  the only flaw I saw was in Darth Maul's pupils paint apps - they are off but I do not plan on keeping him anyway.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on April 20, 2012, 11:20 AM
Of the 3 cases in stock at EE right now, I am only considering ordering one of them, wave 4:

1x Darth Maul (Phantom Menace)
1x VC58 Aayla Secura
1x VC59 Nom Anor
1x VC56 Kithaba (Barada)
1x VC57 Dr. Cornelius Evazan
1x VC51 Barriss Offee
1x VC50 Han Solo (Bespin Gear)
1x VC53 Bom Vimdin
1x VC54 ARC Trooper Commander (Fordo)
1x VC55 Logray (Ewok Medicine Man)
1x VC52 Rebel Fleet Trooper
1x VC21 Gamorrean Guard

I've been sitting here for 10 minutes thinking about it, too.  Still on the fence.  I really only need  Kithaba, Evazan, Nom Anor and Aayla.  Wouldn't mind a Gammie or RFT even though I already have a dozen of each.  Still that's only half the case I need or wouldn't mind. 

The wave 3 and wave 4.1 aren't even close.  I really only care about the Naval Trooper.

That's the case that I ordered, and it's by far my favorite of the three.  It arrived yesterday.  All I've had a chance to open to this point are Kithaba and Dr. Evazan - both figures are pretty damn amazing.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 20, 2012, 06:56 PM
Has anyone been able to confirm whether or not the Bespin Han wave figures have changed? Specifically are their cardbacks the same as they originally were or did they update them to match the 2012 cardback style?

What about Wedge?

Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: P-Siddy on April 20, 2012, 07:21 PM
What about Wedge?

As of Toy Fair, the cardback is staying the same... I believe that is the same with the others (Han, etc.). Of course, Hasbro loves variants so we might be surprised.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on April 20, 2012, 10:12 PM
All of the old cardbacks look the same to me...but they have the Maul sticker
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on April 20, 2012, 11:07 PM
Has anyone been able to confirm whether or not the Bespin Han wave figures have changed? Specifically are their cardbacks the same as they originally were or did they update them to match the 2012 cardback style?

What about Wedge?

All the reshipping figures have new item/assortment numbers at the top of the card front at the very least.  Don't have those to confirm the cardbacks...

On Wedge specifically, yeah there are some major differences for carded collectors to take note...

For the card front, all I can see is the item/asst change:
OLD = 21489/97568 Asst.
NEW = 98692/ 37499 Asst.

On the card back, they kept the old cardback style but changed the figures shown:
OLD = 2010 Wave 3 figures - Wicket, Yoda, Luke, R2, Ackbar
NEW = 2012 Wave 4 figures - Kithaba, Evazan, Aayla, Anor, 501st  plus a new UPC with the new item number on it.

So yeah - NOT the same.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 20, 2012, 11:24 PM
Sorry, I should have been specific.

I was mostly referring to the back of the cards - so it sounds like from Jeff's confirmation of the Wedge - the STYLE of the card's back is the same, but the figures shown have changed. That kinda stinks - so I guess I WILL be keeping the slightly dinged Wedge I got from EE a while back just for that variation.

But I have to wonder if the back of the Bespin Han Solo wave will have new figures or since they are coming out all together in a wave, perhaps they will be mostly un-touched except for assortment numbers.... I really DON'T want to have to pick up those six figures again...

Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Captain Piet on April 21, 2012, 12:31 AM
I just want to add a Bespin Han to my carded collection. Not too worked up about what's on the card.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on April 21, 2012, 01:09 AM
What is with the brown bandana on Kithaba??
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 21, 2012, 07:30 AM
What is with the brown bandana on Kithaba??

yup mine is brown too.  It should be dark red.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Rob on April 21, 2012, 12:00 PM
I can't wait until September when I finally find one or two figures from this wave.  It's gonna be awesome.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 21, 2012, 12:39 PM
I can't wait until September when I finally find one or two figures from this wave.  It's gonna be awesome.

I can't wait until November when I finally find the repacks of Barriss and Bespin Han from this case over a year after they were first released.  Oh wait, I won't find them in November either.  Never mind.

Seriously, I'm about to throw my hands up and quit completely.  It's all well and good that online retailers are getting new cases, but actual retail stores have not gotten them (or much of anything in the last year); I guess Hasbro's claims that brick-and-mortar retail was their bread and butter were overstated somewhat, unless it's moldy bread with fetid apple butter.

Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 21, 2012, 01:40 PM
I can't wait until September when I finally find one or two figures from this wave.  It's gonna be awesome.

I can't wait until November when I finally find the repacks of Barriss and Bespin Han from this case over a year after they were first released.  Oh wait, I won't find them in November either. 

No, you will.  November 2013.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: speedermike on April 21, 2012, 07:34 PM
I was looking forward Dr. Evazan but since I totally missed Walrus Man, what's the point...

I am really at the end of this...after collecting from 1977-1985 and from 1995 to the present...I just think I'm done...very, very down on this whole thing.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: P-Siddy on April 21, 2012, 09:07 PM
Tons of Walrusmen at Union Square Babys R Us, Mike, the last time I was there.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 22, 2012, 08:12 AM
So, Wedge Antilles from this wave - do I really need him in my collection?  I have the one from the X-Wing set.  To me the only difference is the head sculpt and some minor paint apps differences on his chest thingy.  Am I missing anything else?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 22, 2012, 09:26 AM
I don't believe so. Minor changes indeed depending on how much one cares about such things.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 22, 2012, 11:26 AM
I did some more research and it appears this new one has a different body than the X-Wing release.  The new  uses the same body as 2006's VTSC Luke Skywalker (X-Wing Pilot) with a new head sculpt.  So he does have the hole for a light saber hilt

The old one is a kit-bash figure using the arms, legs, and crotch of Nrin Vakil, the gloves and helmet of 2006's VTSC Wes Janson, a new torso and head. The helmet is the same as similar X-Wing Pilots, but the plastic has been stretched to fit Wedge's head.

another difference I noticed is the thing around his lower leg that looks to me like a spare ammo holster is on opposite legs from one figure to another.

info taken from Curto's  ;) photo archive 

Any Wedge experts think one is really more accurate than the other?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on April 22, 2012, 06:36 PM
Shorter is more accurate.  Dennis Lawson is not far off from Mark Hammil's height.  I was sort of surprised by that, whenever it was pointed out when the figure was originally shown to use the Luke sculpt.

I was disappointed at the time, but then found out he really was a shorter dude so yeah, shorter is more accurate.

I'm at the point, with this hobby in general, where I don't know if I care.  I want these figures, but Hasbro's making collecting impossible right now unless you want to pay premiums to simply stay current, and forget about extras at this point.  That's rough when you think the line itself is overpriced to begin with at Wal-Mart and Target, so things suck a bit.

It makes figures you already have that are pretty good in the solid/basics (sculpt, aesthetics, articulation, features, etc.) much more tolerable when it comes to things like height inaccuracies, or the wrong saber hilt but something relatively similar, and so on.

In contrast, it makes buying a new figure a matter of much greater scrutiny...  Eyes out of place you notice more.  Paint straying from the hairline to the face, you notice. 

To me, Evazan's thigh strap molded to his leg is pretty ****** on Hasbro's part.  That should be a separate part of the holster, not part of the leg.  Non-removable vests, non-removable headgear, lacking basic details and featuers like a working holster (*cough*or no holster where there should be one*cough*), bad paintjobs, and detail inaccuracies like height not being consistant with the rest of the line, are all now things that get put under a microscope by myself for sure and I think many others as well.

It's the $5 Sandtrooper argument, to me.  For $10, he's meh.  You might buy one or two but you don't care about him because all flaws are noticeable.  For $5, you're happy to nab one every week even if his helmet is green, his belt's ugly, or whatever the $10 price point did to make you "care more" about the little stuff.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: User897 on April 22, 2012, 07:06 PM
I was looking forward Dr. Evazan but since I totally missed Walrus Man, what's the point...

I am really at the end of this...after collecting from 1977-1985 and from 1995 to the present...I just think I'm done...very, very down on this whole thing.

Totally agreed, speedermike.  My disgust with Hasbro and what Star Wars has become was gradual.  First, when I saw for myself that all three prequels were a joke, I unloaded every last item related to them and stuck with OT only.  Then, the price increases and lack of distribution got even worse.  So, I scaled back yet again, and unloaded more.  Now, my modern collection only consists of Boba Fett and Darth Vader items, and a few choice items that "wowed" me, like the Millennium Falcon, AT-AT, and figures that were finally gotten as right as they could be.  Even with everything so scaled back and not having a "gotta have it all" attitude, the lack of Hasbro product and price increases only say one loud and clear thing: Hasbro just doesn't care, and they haven't for years.  I would really like a Walrus Man, Slave Leia, Sandstorm Leia, and VC93 Vader.  But, I'm not holding my breath.  It truly is sad.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 22, 2012, 10:42 PM
I was looking forward Dr. Evazan but since I totally missed Walrus Man, what's the point...

I am really at the end of this...after collecting from 1977-1985 and from 1995 to the present...I just think I'm done...very, very down on this whole thing.

I hear you and couldn't agree more. There's got to be a better way to connect customers with the product they want without retail acting as wholesale for a second retail stage.

In fact, I must confess that I bought my first ever new figure from an e-bay seller. The A-wing pilot. Couldn't find him, was tired of spending valuable time looking for him. 17 years, not once did I have to go to e-bay for a figure. I so didn't want to do it, but if I got a nice minty one, then great, I can sit on my laurels until the next wave. Sadly, the seller was an idiot and threw the nice mint, unpunched figure in a flimsy box with half a sheet of paper as packing and two pieces of tape to hold the box together. Really shoddy work. The post office crushed the box and the seller only offered to take it back because e-bay told him he was at fault. Which he was. Not once did the guy apologize. He's the exact reason why I didn't want to go to e-bay and I never will again.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: bellboy on April 22, 2012, 11:41 PM
Please excuse me if this is being discussed in another part of the forum. I'm curious on how do we as collectors/consumers take a stand. How are the waves distributed to stores, such as TRU,TARGET and even hasbrotoyshop.com. Does anyone on this board know? When orders are placed, do these establishments get random stock or is there a choice? I'm on the verge of quitting also. I know it's awful in other countries and its also good to know that this endless frustration is not takin g place only in NYC. What are we to do? Do we take to FB and other social media's and complain and bad mouth hasbro? I'm ready to take action to get my voice heard or is it just not that serious? Has anyone from this website or other sites talked to someone from Hasbro about our concerns? There is a major TRU in times square in NYC and there is absolutely nothing in there as far as new product. Same old TPM peg earners from January. Anyone have some sane advice or suggestions?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 23, 2012, 12:16 AM
I don't even think Hasbro knows at this point.

I'm with Speedermike...I've been collecting Star Wars figures for the better part of three decades, I just don't have the enthusiasm to go out and try to find the items I want anymore.  I stopped being a completist a long time ago, and now I just don't care much at all.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Tsophika on April 23, 2012, 02:05 AM
I've recently been dumping everything on eBay. 600+ figures, vehicles, comic packs, even the big Falcon and AT-AT. I'm keeping the Vintage stuff for now, but who knows what I'll say to that in six months.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 23, 2012, 12:19 PM
I believe the biggest thing to blame is Hasbro's out-of-touch executive mentality that the majority of product is made to support current media.  There is not enough interest from kids in owning every obscure Clone Wars character, nor the 3D prequel figure treatments.  I don't understand how they cannot see the absolute glut of Episode 1 on the shelves, while every OT wave with lower numbers sells out.  Try to find the deleted scene wave in quantity, and compare it to the Ep1 wave.  Not only do they sell faster, but they are produced in far too few numbers compared to the media-supported stuff.  People just don't get excited to own merchandise that's currently on TV or in theaters, compared to the power of nostalgia.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on April 23, 2012, 12:46 PM
I believe the biggest thing to blame is Hasbro's out-of-touch executive mentality that the majority of product is made to support current media.  There is not enough interest from kids in owning every obscure Clone Wars character

Which obscure Clone Wars characters are we talking about?  :)  If there's one thing I'm not seeing, it's secondary or tertiary Clone Wars figures hanging around on pegs.  Those actually seem to be selling just fine.  If anything, I'd say there's pent-up demand for a lot of them and Hasbro would probably be able to coast for a year by reproducing a few of the tougher ones from 2010-on.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: CHEWIE on April 23, 2012, 01:47 PM
Seems as though figures are either too rare or overproduced.  Hasbro really needs to get a better handle on case assortments and smarter carry forwards.  That right there could help the distribution woes a lot.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on April 23, 2012, 04:09 PM
Which obscure Clone Wars characters are we talking about?  :)  If there's one thing I'm not seeing, it's secondary or tertiary Clone Wars figures hanging around on pegs.  Those actually seem to be selling just fine.  If anything, I'd say there's pent-up demand for a lot of them and Hasbro would probably be able to coast for a year by reproducing a few of the tougher ones from 2010-on.

Since CW is kind of in the toilet as a line in general I won't really mention anything current, but I could point out Embo, Aurra Sing, Yularren...  I see what DB was saying.  At the same time others haven't hung around, but was that because they were doing so well or that there weren't many of them making it to retail?  I know there was desire for Jar Jar to make a comeback, Palpatine too.

That seems like a little of A and a little of B mixed together.  I saw lots of the supposedly popular secondary guys like Embo though.  He was tough to find for about a month here, but then he was everywhere till clearances moved him.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 23, 2012, 06:35 PM
Seems as though figures are either too rare or overproduced. 

Quote of the year.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: McMetal on April 23, 2012, 09:39 PM
IMHO, those Vintage stinkers sit around way longer than any alleged peg warmers from the Clone Wars line. All our local Walmarts have had those pre-TPM figures marked down to $4 or less for months now, and they're just not moving.

But good luck finding any Clone Wars figure in the SOTDS packaging at a Walmart or Target now. That stuff blew out quickly once it got cheap.

I agree with Adam that their secondary characters sell just fine, but since we are no longer getting any of these, it's sort of a moot point, really. 

People don't get excited to own toys that have current media support? I can't agree with that, Hasbro just has to make smart decisions.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on April 23, 2012, 11:33 PM
I've not seen a $4 vinty figure at WM in ages.  To be honest, I've not seen a pre-TPM vinty figure since K-Mart...  I guess TRU has some stuff, but WM/Target, they're logn gone.  Clearance moved CW stuff too here, no doubt.

But yeah, I think TVC is in a similar boat ultimately...  Some sell, some don't, and depending on who your target market(s) may be, that dictates who gets made ultimately.

I'm not saying OWK or Ani aren't hitting the skids either, but I do know most people will readily tell you Embo was a pegwarmer after his initial honeymoon phase went by...  The Arcona drill instructor, pegwarmer...  Lots and lots of Aurra Sing on clearance.  Lots of Yularren back in the day, and vividly remember buying him just for the table for like $2.  Lots of Whorm Loathsome on clearance.

I wish I had tons of $4 TVC up here.  We had Endor Han, the odd Keyan Farlander, and R5-D4.  :( I  wanted to get a Gree for his cardback, and a couple DSE Lukes for customs.  Never got the shot at that.  Then again I can't find $10 TVC figures unless they're TPM wave, haha.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jayson on April 24, 2012, 09:47 AM
What is with the brown bandana on Kithaba??

There's a variant (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2012/04/24/kithaba-bandana-variant/)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: P-Siddy on April 24, 2012, 09:48 AM
What is with the brown bandana on Kithaba??

There's a variant (http://)

Of course there is.

Linky no worky.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 24, 2012, 10:39 AM
link worked for me.  Ugh.  So there is definitely a red one - but to me it is too red.  So, for that matter I iwll be ok with the one I have.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on April 24, 2012, 10:47 AM
So there are variants for Evazan and Kithaba already?  ::)  Guess I will have to take a closer look at mine when I get home tonight to figure out which versions I have...
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jayson on April 24, 2012, 10:49 AM
I'll have a case waiting for me tonight at home. I hope I get the scarred Evazan and the red bandana Kithy
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: P-Siddy on April 24, 2012, 11:07 AM
Hadn't hear about the Evazan variant... Are there pics of that about? Edit: I found them on the other site... still want to see more. The pink scar just looks too vivid to me compared to the set shots.

Link works great now, Jay! Thanks! Red bandana for me Kithaba for me, too.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Nicklab on April 24, 2012, 01:08 PM
What is with the brown bandana on Kithaba??

There's a variant (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2012/04/24/kithaba-bandana-variant/)


Here we go again.

::)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scockery on April 24, 2012, 04:40 PM
I'm pretty sure it's brown in the movie.  ;)

Variant of figures that will probably be tough finds? NOW HOW SOON WILL YOU QUIT?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on April 24, 2012, 04:58 PM
I'm pretty sure it's brown in the movie.  ;)
It is Red (http://www.skiffguards.com/kithaba.html)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 24, 2012, 05:01 PM
Han's coat on Hoth was brown, not blue!
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JediJman on April 24, 2012, 05:36 PM
I'm pretty sure it's brown in the movie.  ;)
It is Red (http://www.skiffguards.com/kithaba.html)

It is red, but clearly his eyes were more of a Hazel. 
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on April 24, 2012, 06:17 PM
Lighting can make brown look red.  That's why there are so many false alarms about problems with people's poop in this country.  I thought I had Chron's, but it turns out I just had cheap lighting in my bathroom.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jayson on April 24, 2012, 07:59 PM
Got my case today and it look like I got the scarless Evazan and the brown bandana Kithy.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on April 24, 2012, 09:53 PM
I got pink-scar Evazan and brown-bandana Kithaba in my case...
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JediJman on April 25, 2012, 07:59 AM
Where did you guys order your cases from?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 25, 2012, 08:13 AM
I got pink-scar Evazan and brown-bandana Kithaba in my case...

same here, and I got mine from EE
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: P-Siddy on April 25, 2012, 08:50 AM
Where did you guys order your cases from?

I saw on Yakface FB page that someone who ordered the same assortment as Jayson got a pink scarred Evazan. So maybe it won't matter where they get ordered from?
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jayson on April 25, 2012, 09:21 AM
Where did you guys order your cases from?

BBTS
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jeff on April 25, 2012, 09:48 AM
I got my case from EE.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 25, 2012, 09:56 AM
Given how only one Wal-Mart near me has gotten anything past the Episode I wave, I broke down and ordered the case with Wedge in it from BBTS a few minutes ago.  I'm going to wind up with a few figures I don't need (Maul, Qui-Gon, and Nom Anor), but I'd rather pay for 9 figures I do want/need now than have to worry about searching later.  I guess (unless the case never actually ships and I don't wind up with the figures at all; what a pessimist I have become) that only leaves me needing Bespin Han and Barriss Offee (from wave 7) and Darth Malgus and the Imperial Navy Commander (from wave 3) to be (technically) "caught up."

Only the second case I've ever bought online, btw (the first was the AOTC wave last year which, Hasbro should take note, I only ordered because I needed 10 of the 12 figures from it; this is why even halfway acceptable case packs are better).



Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on April 27, 2012, 05:57 PM
Looks like most of the Kithabas on eBay are brown with a few reds mixed in here and there...I splurged on a red one because OCD demands it
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Brian on April 27, 2012, 08:53 PM
I got a couple from BBTS this week as well, and both were brown.  I'd like to get a red one as well, hopefully.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JediJman on April 30, 2012, 04:58 PM
I got pink-scar Evazan and brown-bandana Kithaba in my case...

Ditto from Scifigenre.  I'm trying to track down a no-scar Evazan and red Bandana Kithaba if anyone has extras.

Thanks!
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Ryan on April 30, 2012, 05:12 PM
I'm just going to be "happy" to track down any of the figures from this wave, regardless of the variation, at this point. I'd prefer the red kithaba and the pink scar, but with retail being the **** storm it is, I'll take what I can get and customize what I can't.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JediJman on April 30, 2012, 06:10 PM
I'm just going to be "happy" to track down any of the figures from this wave, regardless of the variation, at this point. I'd prefer the red kithaba and the pink scar, but with retail being the **** storm it is, I'll take what I can get and customize what I can't.

I ended up paying a premium for half the wave just to make sure I got one of them.  It's ridiculous.  At least I know what variation I want to track down now I suppose.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Dan on May 5, 2012, 05:39 PM
I found this wave at Wal Mart (Minnesota), and didn't even know there were variations until I went to post the find. I found a non-painted scar evazan, and both Kithabas have the brown sweatband.

no wonder Evazan only has one good eye. He's packaged with the gun facing himself, secured with a rubber band.  ::)
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: P-Siddy on May 5, 2012, 07:12 PM
I'm still waiting for good pics of Evazan variants to decide which I want.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 6, 2012, 09:42 AM
I found this wave at Wal Mart (Minnesota),

I have a K-mart on the way to WalMart. They get one case every 6 months.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 14, 2012, 10:20 AM
Opened a set and wanted to post a few quick thoughts.

Vader- Nothing new here in terms of articulation, which is solid, but it's really nice having this ANH variant.

Hoth Luke - a real disappointment, the sculpting is just a mess. Even accounting for shoulder mobility, I just don't see why those shoulders have to look like they do. In addition, it could just be mine, but the collar comes off and is a real pain in the butt to manage. It just won't stay on and won't sit right when it does.

Anakin - a real pleasant surprise. Despite the fact that I bought it kicking and screaming, it's arguably the sharpest figure in the bunch. The hips are only swivel, and there is some limitation in the shoulder movement due to the armor, but his wrists are multi-jointed and allow him to do that bad- ass lightsaber pointing pose.

Imperial Navy Commander - very sharp with the exception of the glaringly inaccurate Republic emblem on his shoulder. If I get any more, this is coming right off. Night and day compared with the bulkier previous release. The difference between the two is so great that I'm not sure if I can display the two in the same set ups, that's the only other draw-back if you can even call it a draw back.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jesse James on May 15, 2012, 11:22 PM
Those shoulder joints actually have more movement in them than people realize...  The armor bit can actually sink into the socket some.  It's really slick but it's a tight fit so it's nto something that just happens without a little futzing.

It's definitely engineered that way though so it's intended to work.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 16, 2012, 03:57 PM
Overall I like the Hoth Luke a lot for whatever reason I do not have an issues with the shoulders. I agree on the collar, it's an easy fix. I glued it down on mine and have had no issues. My biggest dissappointment with the figure is the head scarf/googles and small neck socket that does not allow any natural fit with other luke heads. I wanted to have a hatless version like in the promo pics.

The INC is a really great figure and a travesty at the same time that he is only one per case and not slated to reship yet. I want many more....

I agree with DA that the CW Anakin was the best figure of the wave. They really delivered a figure that should have been realistic from the get go. Better late than never.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Ryan on June 2, 2012, 10:47 PM
I'm starting to think that I may have missed this wave. Stores around here haven't gotten in any new cases since about February or March.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on June 3, 2012, 02:53 PM
I'm starting to think that I may have missed this wave. Stores around here haven't gotten in any new cases since about February or March.

same - still need the Navy Commander and Malgus
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Scott on June 11, 2012, 10:13 PM
Snowtroopers seems to think this is Wave 15...they have said that twice in to days

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/2012_Vintage_Collection_Wave_Four_Offerless_Cards_146259.asp

Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Diddly on July 13, 2012, 12:30 PM
I broke down and ordered this wave (the case with Wedge) from Hasbro Toy Shop last weekend and it arrived today. Got pink scarred Evazan and brown bandana Kithaba. That was the Evazan I wanted but now I have to track down a red Kithaba.

Only three figures in this case I already have, BR Luke, Maul and Qui-Gon, which I'll try to trade away.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 15, 2012, 03:18 AM
I used Amazon to buy this wave; Ep.I pegwarmers are still pegwarming at my local retailers. :'( Amazon has not let me down, though; I was able to score Malgus when he was $12.99. I will say, though, that the thrill of the unexpected finds when you actually go into the stores isn't there.
Title: Re: 2012 "Vintage" Collection Wave 13
Post by: Rob on July 15, 2012, 12:15 PM
I used Amazon to buy this wave; Ep.I pegwarmers are still pegwarming at my local retailers. :'( Amazon has not let me down, though; I was able to score Malgus when he was $12.99. I will say, though, that the thrill of the unexpected finds when you actually go into the stores isn't there.

I just got Malgus from Amazon for that price too.  I've ordered everything since the Blu-ray wave from Amazon, generally for $12 to $13 each.  It's an obscene price, but only a dollar or two more than in store would cost when you factor tax in.  And to not have to drive around looking for crap or beg for favors, it's worth the few extra bucks per wave to me.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Wave 13 (2012 Wave 4.1)
Post by: 77Skywalker on December 6, 2014, 09:00 AM
I have got Ponda Baba here, also Dr. Evazan and Aayla Secura.  These are awesome figures.