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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Can Sith Beat Titanic?
« on: June 3, 2005, 10:46 AM »
I like the point Matt made on Empire.  I have always found it extremely ironic that Empire is the best one, and it has made the least amount of money.  How can that be explained?  Wild!  I'm guessing that it's a generational thing.  Most of us who say Empire was the best were probably between 6 aand 10 when it came out, and we didn't have the bank to see it as much as we would have liked (however, that didn't stop us from begging our parents everyday!! ;D ).  As we got older and started making money, it was easier to see Menace, because that was more within our immediate control. 

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The Original Trilogy / Re: "The Movie Was Too Long, So, I Made The First Third"
« on: June 3, 2005, 10:38 AM »
I think you have to have access to the Lucas archives for some of this stuff.  At least, that is what I keep hearing on the Star Wars message boards.  I don't believe it has been published for public consumption.  Heck, we don't have the original, unaltered movie at our disposal (on DVD), so I doubt we'll get a script!   ;)

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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Beauty and the Geek
« on: June 3, 2005, 10:36 AM »
Oh man, it was totally lame, but I had that traffic accident syndrome, where I was horrified, but I couldn't look away.  Some nice looking chicks (and some not so nice looking too   ;) ).  I couldn't believe the quiz show at the end.  she didn't know Clinton was from Arkansas.   :D  When the blond hooked up with the Mensa member, I was like, "Ha!  Classic!  Score one for the good guys!"

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The Original Trilogy / Re: Why Lucas tinkered with Star Wars!
« on: June 3, 2005, 10:31 AM »
I agree, it just makes things clunky.  If he wants to mess around with everything, whatever, but give us the originals also (pretty please with sugar on top!), just from an historical and cultural perspective.  After all, the '77 version are what launched everything in the first place.

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Greivous' Cough?
« on: June 3, 2005, 10:28 AM »
Ok, I remember this scene now.  With all that armor, I am surprised this would effect him the way it did, but who knows. 


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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Anakin's Immaculate Conception, Not So Holy?
« on: June 3, 2005, 10:19 AM »
It is how you defined it, but it is also when you become that which you most fear.  I have also taken some psychology classes dude.   ;)  Anakin becomes what he most fears, someone who will take away everything that he loves.  That is the tragic element of his character, and the self-fulfilling prophecy is fuel for the proverbial fire.  SFP's do not necessarily have a "Duh" aspect.  When you worry about something, and it comes true, that is a self-fulfilling prophecy.  You essentially will something to fruition, and allow yourself to go down the path you most fear.

Quote from: Herbert_Ackermans on June  3, 2005, 06:53 AM
If Plagueis is indeed responsible for Anakin's birth, or Sidious is, the fact that, although Anakin established the Sith's rule and purge of the Jedi, he also is the single factor in destroying the Sith, as prophecised, is not a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Yes, that is correct.  This aspect is not a self-fulfilling prophecy, it is just part of the character arc.

Good discussion.   ;D

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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Thoughts and all that sappy stuff
« on: June 3, 2005, 01:32 AM »
Princess, I don't know you, but my boys here all certainly think highly of you, and I wanted to let you know that you are in my thoughts and prayers as well.  Focus on the positive, and keep smiling.  We're rooting for you!!   :)

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Anakin's Immaculate Conception, Not So Holy?
« on: June 3, 2005, 01:18 AM »
Cool.  Your posts are intelligent, so I figured it was something like that.   :)

I am 5 classes away from my second Bachellor's in English Education myself.  I'm thinking a few units about Star Wars here and there for my future classes might prove beneficial.   ;)

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Greivous' Cough?
« on: June 3, 2005, 01:15 AM »
Quote from: Jagdohh_Fett on June  2, 2005, 05:14 AM
I was curious to why the cough seemed to be emphasized like that, but I missed the last few episodes of the CW cartoon so that thought never crossed my mind. Just figured it was some trait Lucas wanted to add to the character.

What scene is everyone talking about?  I have seen this episode twice (its been a while though), but don't remember grievous suddenly developing a condition that requires a lozenge.   ;D

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The Original Trilogy / Re: Why Lucas tinkered with Star Wars!
« on: June 3, 2005, 01:01 AM »
Quote from: Herbert_Ackermans on June  2, 2005, 07:42 AM
No offense, but that last bit is a really dumb statement. You try to make the appearance of some character be the same as the lack of a character in one movie after 3 he was in.

Fair enough.  I don't think it's a dumb statement though.  Just making a point that the idea of adding the Emperor is silly.  He wasn't in three films when ANH was made, because there was only one film at that time.  To go back and add him would be as choppy as when Jabba was added.  It would not enhace the story at all (just as the Jabba scene did not).  I don't need Sidious added to make the story better.

Quote from: Herbert_Ackermans on June  1, 2005, 04:06 PM
Myeah, your POV. In my view, Vader runs the show in TESB and ROTJ, while in ANH, he really is just some dumb dog for Tarkin.

In TESB, he can unleash all his power, like he did in ROTS. So why oh why, would this tragic hero, this troubled mind, submit himself to being bossed around.

He is the right hand of the Emperor, he helped create the Empire, he secured the Empire by wiping out the Jedi, why would he be content with being told what to do by Tarkin in the way he does in ANH?
No one said he was content; he was jus doing as he was told.  There is mutual respect between Tarkin and Vader, and it's not all about power struggles anymore.  Vader may be evil, but he's not dumb either.  The Emperror says be cool, and he's cool.  Tarkin is a big part of the Empire and its success.

Quote from: Herbert_Ackermans on June  2, 2005, 07:42 AM
Myeah, really connects with that rage Anakin has in ROTS, and what he also shows in the duel in TESB, just before he severs Luke's hand.

But again, your POV.

Of course it's my POV.  Every single post on every single thread is a point of view.  Yours is too, and I may not agree with it, but that's cool.  We're all buds here.  Vader isn't a mindless thug; if you want that, check out T2 for robotic killing machines.  Vader is a bit more complex than that.

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The Original Trilogy / Re: Why Lucas tinkered with Star Wars!
« on: June 3, 2005, 12:56 AM »
Quote from: Nicklab on June  2, 2005, 01:35 AM
What adds insult to injury for the creator is that every time you see the finished work, you see or hear every imperfection. 

I think that is absolutely true.  He certainly is in a unique situation, where every single thing he does is criticized ad nauseaum.

Quote from: Nicklab on June  2, 2005, 01:35 AM

On the issue of things that he's gone back and fixed, is anyone really bothered by the fact that he moved the rank insignia on Admiral Piett's uniform to it's correct position at the end of TESB?  Don't think so.  Do people like the way that the cgi Jabba looks in the DVD version of ANH?  Hell yeah!  It's looks much better than the inflated orange garbage bag that looked like Jabba in the '96 special edition.  How about the windows in the Cloud City corridors that we saw in the special edition as opposed to the plain white walls that were in the 1980  theatrical version of TESB?

... I can't fault him for going back and making the best movie that he can, even after the theatrical release.

I don't mind him changing the mistakes, but the add-ons are awful to me.  Yes, Jabba looks better, in the DVD (without a doubt), but he would look best if he wasn't in there at all.  This is just a rehash of the Greedo scene, and is mildly distracting.  You bring up very valid points, Nicklab.   :)

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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: JD Pics to Names!
« on: June 3, 2005, 12:47 AM »
Quote from: Jesse James on June  2, 2005, 08:00 PM
If his dialogue's anything to go by as far as his romantic ability...  He's gonna need every penney.

Ha!  No doubt!  I have often thought that is part of 'ol Georgie boy's problem.  ;)

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Can Sith Beat Titanic?
« on: June 3, 2005, 12:44 AM »
Quote from: Herbert_Ackermans on June  2, 2005, 09:40 AM
Amazing how people confuse quantity with quality.

Some here say that they want ROTS to do well, so they can brag about it? If anyone can brag about it, it's GL and everyone involved in making the movie.

We, as fans, have NOTHING to brag about, we just see the movie, we have contributed nothing to it.

Kay...easy Tiger.  I want it to do well, because, as Lando (that Scoundrel) said, it's kind of like rooting for your favorite sports team.  It's not as if I feel financial success legitimizes my passion for Star Wars; but it is wonderful to see.  The more succesful Star Wars is, the longer it will be around.   ;D

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Can Sith Beat Titanic?
« on: June 2, 2005, 01:16 AM »
I expect it to break $400 million (I too want it to break Episode I), but I highly doubt it will beat Titanic.  I hope that it does, but $600 million with all of the summer competition; now that is going to be tough!

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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: JD Pics to Names!
« on: June 2, 2005, 01:13 AM »
Whoa dude, what thread did I stumble into here?   ;D

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