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Title: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: JediMAC on August 10, 2003, 07:25 AM
Those GH (http://www.galactichunter.com) super news scoops are at it again, this time reporting that Hasbro will FINALLY be releasing an uber-articulated (14 points) standard white Clonetrooper!  It's said to be coming with the Kit Fisto and Saesee Tiin figures near the tail end of the CW line.  Assuming this to be true, I can only imagine that eventually Hasbro will stick this guy on a standard Saga card as well.  I fear the availability of this highly desired army building figure since it's being released in what will be a less than popular toy line (CW), near the tail end of it, and likely in not such high quantities.

BUT, at least Hasbro has FINALLY gotten their act together and purportedly made this super Trooper finally, so that's definitely a positive sign!  Hopefully it'll find it's way to retail in sufficient quantities for everybody at some point(s) in the future.

So, how many are YOU gonna get?!
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: roguestormtrooper on August 10, 2003, 12:49 PM
That's great...  I think that between Kit,  Saesee and the Clonetrooper that they will sell really well.  They may be the redeeming factor for the entire CW line...  As far as how many,  as many as I can get my little grubby hands on! ;D
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: dustrho on August 10, 2003, 12:55 PM
I would hope that they will be sold in a 3 or 4 pack, because I will be buying a ton of them.  Yeah baby!  Love the idea of articulation... especially on a Clone Trooper!
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: CHEWIE on August 11, 2003, 02:37 PM
Hopefully it will be released in sufficient quantities (like at least 3-4 per case), be packed into the SAGA assortments after that, and find its way to a Fan Club 4-pk army-builder.

How many for me?  Depends on availabilty of course, but I am hoping for at least 15-20 of them.

 :P
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Boba Binks on August 11, 2003, 06:59 PM
I will buy one to add to my open collection.

I do think that the Clonetrooper is starting to be a bit overdone. We have the Sneak Preview Clone, Red Clone, Clone Pilot, and the Clone 3-packs. That is enough clones I think.
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Jesse James on August 11, 2003, 09:20 PM
To me, this is great...  I'm hoping to nab 100 at least, maybe more depending what bundles they're put into and whatnot.

THIS is what they s hould've done all along, and scrapped the pre-posed clones in the 3-pack.  3 Uber articulated would've been MUCH more welcome I believe.

I can't wait to start a grand army of the Republic, FINALLY.
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: dustrho on August 11, 2003, 10:42 PM
I do think that the Clonetrooper is starting to be a bit overdone. We have the Sneak Preview Clone, Red Clone, Clone Pilot, and the Clone 3-packs. That is enough clones I think.

Are you crazy David?  I can't believe you think that.  There could never be enough Clone Troopers and variations of them.
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Jesse James on August 12, 2003, 02:11 AM
I can't find where on GH it says anything about an ultra articulated clone though?  Hope they didn't retract something because they were mistaken...  :(

And I agree with the above...

I actually am MORE appreciative of the 3-packs now that they're going to make a good definitive clone.  Hopefully, it will just meet the expectations we all have.  It should be VERY poseable, and also be capable of maintaining a very neutral stance as well.

I want a clone that can look like he's running, walking, standing, firing 2-handed, firing one-handed, dying, dead, looking up, looking down, looking left, looking right...

If he had a removable helmet too, he'd be just freaking amazing though. :)

White clones can, and should always ALWAYS sell if they're of the uber poseable variety.

Imagine Stormtroopers in the same fashion?  **drool**

Imagine ALL army builders like rebel fleet troopers, hoth rebels, snowtroopers, sandtroopers, scout troopers, endor soldiers, etc., in the same fashion?  **MAJOR drool**

I'd be in figure heaven then.

I'd pick up a figure every time I was at the store if they were there, ya know?  And I'd likely run out of room quickly to store all of them...  But I'd have one hell of a lot of BIG dioramas with LOTS of variety that I made myself.  I'd even use them for gaming I think.  

Imagine an outdoor "strategy" game using the figures...  You could have one large game with your Star Wars buddies, that's for sure.
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: JediMAC on August 12, 2003, 03:21 AM
I can't find where on GH it says anything about an ultra articulated clone though?  Hope they didn't retract something because they were mistaken...  :(

Nope, it's still there (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=1586&zoneid=2) Jesse!  Here's the direct qoute from GH's main man Mike:

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Hasbro will be releasing a super-articulated Clone Trooper, plain white with fourteen (thats 14) points of articulation, in the upcoming Clone Wars assortment featuring the Kit Fisto and Saesee Tin figures that are currently being previewed at Wizard World Chicago.

I just hope he makes it onto a Saga card or some army builder 4-packs as well later on, since I fear his inclusion near the end of the CW line might mean he won't have too great of supply in a dying line - not to mention he's a serious army builder in HIGH demand...
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Mister Skeezler on August 12, 2003, 10:15 AM
Seriously.

Hey JJ, I had been tossing around the idea of a strategy game for when I have kids that's kind of similar to what you're talking about. I had thought of it as using a grid (wood parquet floor?) as spaces, and keeping it simple at first and then making it more complicated as they get older to help them think strategically. Hopefully my kids will like Star Wars...wait, of course they will.

Basically, you'd have "Teams", i.e Empire, Alliance, Republic, Separatists. Obviously it would be inaccurate to have the Alliance vs. The Republic, but if you really want to, what the hell. Within these groups you can have factions that have different skills.

For instance, the Alliance can have an Ewok squad that can set traps on any squares in the grid. The enemy can't see them, but you have to write the square's location down on a piece of paper when you set it, and obviously you can't change it unless you want to dismantle the original trap, but it still counts as a move.

You can also have Dresselians who can sabotage enemy machinery or snipe.

Gungans can form a deflector shield around your infantry and take out mechanized infantry with their boomer balls.

The Empire can call down TIE bombers to make precision strikes behind enemy lines.

Bounty Hunters/Assasins can be hired to take out leaders, which makes the troops less effective (still working on penalties for loss of leaders, but I know that an Empire team with General Veers should be better than an Empire team with a generic General)

Squads of Jedi can be used, but I'm trying to figure out a way to not make them invincible.

The Empire can send probe droids to investigate specific areas of the map.

These are just a few examples of what I've been planning. I'd keep it simple at first, for instance an AT-AT can fire once per round, and it can take out everything in a square. It would have a maximum and minimum range though, and I guess it would need to be severely handicapped to be fair. I'm also not sure how I would handle Hailfires and Gunships.

An outdoor game like you were saying would be cool. You'd need a bunch of line and a bunch of stakes if you wanted to make a grid for that though! Plus, your weapons might end up as lawnmower bait! Maybe asphalt and a chalkline? ;)
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Jesse James on August 12, 2003, 07:23 PM
Thanks for the Link Matt...  If it were a snake it woulda bit me!  I searched and I think I even looked at that but apparantly not close enough.

Lando, that's cool!  If you're interested, Star Wars Miniature's Battles can STILL be adapted to the 3.75" figures somewhat.  

It's a fairly simple game really, but not for little kids.  Definitely for older kids and adults due to the intricacy of the games generally and such.  Finding minis is the real pain though. :(

Though WOTC is maybe going to crank out a new minis game for Star Wars, so here's to hoping on that, and that it's as good as the original from WEG.

I've found a game with the 3.75" can be easily adapted though, especially with the round bases out that are pretty specifically sized.  I haven't adapted vehicles personally, because of size, but wanted to one day when a few of my scale vehicle projects were completed.  Played outdoors on a nice day (And with a lot of work) and you could have combat even in a cityscape or whatnot.  

For small squad based matches though, it is really simple though.  Even scaling up some of the explosion templates is pretty simple, and they just print right out then. :)
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Jesse James on September 25, 2003, 03:00 AM
Bumpin' this one up...

The new CloneTrooper is pictured in the latest Insider's pull-out/pack-in Clone Wars poster for those interested!

StarWars.com has a nice image of it too, from the poster, but it's not a very large image for deciphering where the articulation points are.

I'm guessing heavy use of ball/socket joints though, which is great, and he looks to have a natural/neutral pose...  no more bow legged clones!  Yay!

If every army builder got this kinda treatment (from what I can tell anyway) I'd be a much happier Hasbro Consumer, and I'd be welcoming MORE pre-posed 3-packs with open arms.

Here's to hoping Hasbro gets off their collective rears and takes this kind of articulation to other army builders like Stormtroopers, Scout Troopers, Snowtroopers, Hoth Rebel Soldiers, Rebel Fleet Troopers, etc., etc., etc....

I for one would be in debt, but happily. :)
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: dustrho on September 25, 2003, 03:04 AM
If every army builder got this kinda treatment (from what I can tell anyway) I'd be a much happier Hasbro Consumer, and I'd be welcoming MORE pre-posed 3-packs with open arms.

As C-3P0 once said, "Thank the maker!"  It's about time they [Hasbro] thought of us army builders!   ;D
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Darby on September 25, 2003, 04:40 AM
This is good news and let's hope it doesn't get buried like many other tail end items.  Although this will be probably repacked and repainted ad infinitum, so not to worry.   ;D
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: jadesfire on September 25, 2003, 09:27 AM
So when should I start looking for this bad boy to show up in stores?  I need about 10 (lets hope Walmart is still pricing these at $3.80 each ;D).
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 25, 2003, 10:46 AM
Can someone who has the insider email me a scan of this?

sithlord333@yahoo.com
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Scott on September 25, 2003, 10:49 AM
(http://www.starwars.com/community/news/2003/09/img/insiderposter_bg.jpg)

From the Official Site
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: dustrho on September 25, 2003, 11:41 AM
So when should I start looking for this bad boy to show up in stores?  I need about 10 (lets hope Walmart is still pricing these at $3.80 each ;D).

Beth, if you find a lot more than 10 of these can you hook me up again?  PLEASE!?!?   ;D
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: dustrho on September 25, 2003, 11:42 AM
Is this new Clone Trooper one of the ones listed on the bottom right of that picture?  It doesn't look any different than what's already been done.
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Darth Broem on September 25, 2003, 12:26 PM
Is this new Clone Trooper one of the ones listed on the bottom right of that picture?  It doesn't look any different than what's already been done.

Yeah, better pics will be coming I'd assume.  You have to think there are articulated knees, ball-jointed arms and what not.  Like BobaBinks said above they have made quite a few Clonetroopers lately so they are probably all blending together in your mind :)
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Jesse James on September 25, 2003, 03:25 PM
The articulation count goes a lil sumpin' like dis...

2-shoulder
1-neck
1-waist
2-thigh/hip
2-knee
2-ankle
2-wrist
2-elbow

For a total of 14 points.  

What of that is ball/socket, is anyone's guess...  It could be every major joint though, judging by the image (I blew it up trying to get a good look).

Here's to hoping for greatness...  I just hope the "natural" pose is very neutral, unlike that damn red clone's pose where his bow legs and arms clenched tight at his sides (because of no ball/socket shoulders) meant he was limited to only a handful of poses, and they were ALL action poses.

Blah!
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: SilverZ on September 25, 2003, 06:33 PM
Well prototype pics just surfaced at POTF2.com (RS has the news blurb up just now):

Clone Wars Clone Proto (http://www.potf2.com/potj/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4217)

This thing looks fantastic. It seems to have ball socket joints at the elbows, maybe at the shoulders as well, concealed very nicely by the armour.

Hasbro had better realize RIGHT NOW that they need to ship out cases of these things alone, 12 per box. :)

J
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: dustrho on September 25, 2003, 06:58 PM
That is AWESOME!  It's about time Hasbro made Star Wars figures more like GI Joe figures.  I don't know why it took them so long to try something different.  Do you think this is the "guinea pig," and if this figure goes well they'll start making all the figures this way?
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: SilverZ on September 25, 2003, 07:13 PM
I hope this goes over fantastically so we see more army builders made like this. If we had Stormtroopers and Biker Scouts to the same level of completeness it would be amazing. I'm gonna have a huge clone army. :) This thing looks like it will go from a good natural, neutral pose to full-blown combat action with no problem. Goooood times.

It's funny, but the cynic in me wants to say, 'Bah, they're only giving us an ultimate articulation Clone because they can sell repaints of it for the next 2 years, and we'll never see that detail out of OT because they can't make variations!'

But this is too cool to be cranky about, at least for a little while.  8)

Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Jesse James on September 25, 2003, 10:20 PM
Even without variations I think they can crank these out for ALL army builders and make a MUCH better sales rate on their army builder figures.

I mean, I'd have taken just THIS sculpt in a 3-pack before those pi$$-poor pre-posed clones we wound up with that are uber cheap in feel, deco, and sculpt.

Gimme this guy with repaints.

Gimme a Scout like this guy!

Gimme a Stormie like this guy!

Gimme a Rebel Fleet Trooper with Head Variants like this guy!

Gimme a Hoth Rebel Soldier like this guy!

Gimme a Snowtrooper like this guy!

Gimme Sandtroopers like this guy!

Gimme EU Troopers like Aquatic and Space troopers like this guy!

Gimme Endor Rebels like this guy!

You get the idea...  

Hell, give me ALL figures articulated like this guy.  That ball/socket joint worked flawlessly on the Luke Bespin figure and wasn't noticeable.  It even looked like a fold in the fabric.

Can't beat that with a stick. :)
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 26, 2003, 10:12 AM
Between this, and the new figure pics at Hasbro.com, I'm just too excited for words today!!!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: dustrho on September 26, 2003, 10:54 AM
Yeah, watch Hasbro kill this project like they did with the second wave of Cantina scenes.   >:(
Title: Re: New ultra-articulated white Clonetrooper finally!?
Post by: Vator on October 5, 2003, 10:13 AM
They should cut their losses and ship soild cases of this guy at half price.Here is how it should go down...

ship 3 cases per store,for weeks for 2 weeks,then one case per week for 3 weeks
cut the price in half since many of the other figs were pegwarmeres
4 out of 12 in a case should be different ranks(blue,green,yellow,red)
have the stores clear the pegs for this guy sice he will be a big seller.
Cut the command gunship price in half sice it is not going anywhere.

Ahhhh to dream