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Title: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on January 24, 2007, 08:33 AM
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/inkedjediknight/vtac.jpg)

Hoth Han Solo
Snowtrooper
IG-88
Bossk
Bespin Luke
Endor Leia

Discuss.  ;D
Title: Re: 30AC VTAC Figure Thread
Post by: Darth Broem on January 24, 2007, 08:53 AM
Oh wow!  I must have missed this somewhere.  Well IG-88 looks totally badass is my first impression.  I hope Han comes with a removeable, or attacheable hood.  Finally and SA Snowtrooper.  Bossk is fine but I may not buy him just because he looks just like the last version (who am I kidding?  I'll get him in the end).  Luke has a funky looking face there (what else is new?).  I like the soft goods Leia poncho. 

The winner of the group, for me, looks to be IG-88 surprisingly. 

I take my luke comment back.  I finally blew up each one individually.  They all look great for the most part.  Some more money coming your way Hasbro.
Title: Re: 30AC VTAC Figure Thread
Post by: Paul on January 24, 2007, 09:14 AM
Now that is a Hoth Han Solo......

Lovin that whole wave (although, I'm not too hip on bounty Hunters)
Title: Re: 30AC VTAC Figure Thread
Post by: Brian on January 24, 2007, 09:20 AM
Wow, this wave looks pretty great to me.  The "vintage" collection is the part I look forward to the most each year, and this year will be no different.  My favorite of the wave is the Hoth Han Solo, I always hoped we'd get an all new, SA version of that figure.  I'm curious what the hood will be like, if it can be put "up or down".  Bespin Luke is another one I've been hoping for, and I'm glad that rumor panned out.  The whole wave looks good actually, and IG-88 even looks interesting - which I didn't think would happen necessarily.  Endor Leia is another needed main character resculpt, and it looks nice.  Not thrilled about Bossk at this point - but I know I'll pick it up.  The figure looks fine, just looks a lot like the last one (but with more articulation).  Overall though, big thumbs up on this wave, can't wait for it to hit.
Title: Re: 30AC VTAC Figure Thread
Post by: Paul on January 24, 2007, 10:07 AM
Hopefully Toy Fair will give us better pics of the Hoth Han and others.

And of course we get to revisit the Blue or Brown on his coat debate...let the (un)civil war begin!!!
Title: Re: 30AC VTAC Figure Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 24, 2007, 10:21 AM
Han looks outstanding. Great sculpt.

I want to say the same thing about the Snowtrooper, but his stance looks a bit too wide and the cut of the front of his "skirt" looks off. Otherwise, he looks a 100% better than any Snowtrooper before him.

IG-88 looks amazing.

Bossk looks pretty good.

Luke, he looks okay, I'll bet the picture isn't doing him justice.

Leia look great.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on January 24, 2007, 10:35 AM
I cannot wait for Toy Fair and larger better pictures of all the stuff that is leaking today!   ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: P-Siddy on January 24, 2007, 10:53 AM
Now, is Han in a brown coat or blue one??  ;)

These look excellent. Love the bounty hunters and the Snowtrooper. Han looks cool too. Will have to check out Luke and Leia closer... now why couldn't this have been the wave to get the Lucas trooper??
Title: Re: 30AC VTAC Figure Thread
Post by: Paul on January 24, 2007, 10:58 AM
I want to say the same thing about the Snowtrooper, but his stance looks a bit too wide and the cut of the front of his "skirt" looks off. Otherwise, he looks a 100% better than any Snowtrooper before him.


I am hoping this is like the Sand Person from last year, where a little Collector attention can get it to fit/look better.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on January 24, 2007, 11:16 AM
Larger pics for reference...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_han.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_snow.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_luke.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_bossk.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_ig88.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_leia.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on January 24, 2007, 11:28 AM
I like Bossk and IG-88 just fine but these two seem really unecessary.  The other 4 though look great. 

Han
The coat looks a brownish and to me that is good enough, great headsculpt, a little odd they picked Hoth over Bespin but I'd take either

Luke
Bespin Luke was my favorite vintage figure and the previous 2 modern efforts were both lacking (or adding a huge ass button on the ass).  I am glad as hell they did not muck it up with Softgoods.  This looks like a wet dream come true

Leia
Nice looking, poncho looks a bit bulky, I'll need two for a General Leia figure

Snowtrooper
The cloth skirt sucks total major league skank ass.  Come on ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 24, 2007, 11:43 AM
The snowtrooper looks wonderful.  My first urge is to trim the kama around the pelvic area to make it look like it's emerging from under the armor.  I'll probably do that.  This looks like it's following nicely in the tradition of the scout and stormie VOTCs.  36 please, thanks.

Han looks great.  BADLY needed.  As previously mentioned, a hood that snaps on would be stellar.

Luke looks good.  Curious to see how much it looks like Mark Hamill though cuz this one is kinda blurry and Hasbro has really struggled in the past, just like it has with Samuel L. Jackson and Carrie Fisher.

Bossk is kinda unnecessary but I'll snag one.

IG-88 looks great.  Love the free sculpted wires shooting' all over the place.  Hope it's 14 points.

Leia looks like she's in stirrups or squatting and giving birth.  Looks designed to sit on a bike?

All in all, great wave.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on January 24, 2007, 11:47 AM
I love it - every bit of it.  None of them are unnecessary IMO - since my hope is still that they eventually re-do every vintage figure in this style.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: DarkKnight2k4 on January 24, 2007, 11:50 AM
Meesa want them all !
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on January 24, 2007, 12:36 PM
 :o  :o  :o

A Hoth Han that doesn't suck?  (waits for other shoe to drop).  I'm in shock about this.  I really thought they'd just put out a Bespin Han that was last year's Endor Han with a new cloth jacket.  Amazing.

Snowtrooper: Yay, but... what the hell is with that skirt, and that leg stance?

IG-88 is the most surprising.  I was the least excited for him, but he turned out great (a Hasbro trend: airball the homerun figs like the Snowwtrooper, and knock the blah ones like IG-88 out of the park).

Bossk: Looks great, but so did the 97 version.  I'll get it, since I'm ordering a case.   :)

Bespin Luke: Looks great.  The head is funky, but that may be just the lighting.

Endor Leia: Also great, and also about time.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth Broem on January 24, 2007, 12:57 PM
Yes, that snowtrooper skirt looks lame.  They just insist on making something soft goods with this line.  All I can think of is maybe they wanted us to put the legs in crazy positions and the plastic would hinder it?  I don't know? 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Ben on January 24, 2007, 01:22 PM
Sign me up for two sets. I like them all, even Bossk. I thought he couldn't get any better in 97, and again in 2004, so this one might surprise me yet.
IG-88 looks awesome.
I expected the Endor Leia, and based on the pic, I'm not disappointed.
I'm not exactly thrilled to see another army builder in one of the vintage lines, but depending on distribution, I might get a couple of the Snowtroooper, as long as he doesn't have a removable helmet.
Hopefully there will be a way to put the hood up on Hoth Han, but I like it so far.
My favorite is easily Bespin Luke. Been waiting for this guy since they started doing SA on Star Wars figures.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jediknight760071 on January 24, 2007, 01:42 PM
That's it...I'm collecting again.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: jedipurge on January 24, 2007, 01:45 PM
AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME!  As if '07 wasn't going to be expensive enough. 

Han-after seeing what happened with Endor Han this'll probably wind up on clearance as well.  I was hoping for a Bespin version but this is still cool.

Luke-very solid indeed.  I was fearing that if they did this they'd pull a Leia's collection/Endor Han and give him soft goods jacket with nude arms underneath and maybe interchangable hands.  Definately glad they didn't go that route.  I'll probably get 3 of these 2 for customs.

Leia-another clearance.  Depending on what's she got goin' on underneath  :wink: I might get a couple to fill in the ranks of female rebel officers.

Bossk-well on the fence with this one.  he's cool know doubt, but after what happened with Greedo in the VTSC I don't know.  He definately looks better then Greedo but Bossk also had less screen time.

IG-88- I really have been wondering how  and if they could pull off the articulation on him.  From the looks I'd give him a 10.  Excellent work Hasbro.

Snowtrooper- Imperial Marine is what I like to call him after ROTS.  Total goodness.  Not a fan of soft goods but definatley able to over look this.  Just trying to figure out how hasbro will re-release him later down the line, i.e. what changes they'll make to him for a cheaper price.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: ruiner on January 24, 2007, 01:55 PM
Like a lot of you, I'm in for two sets (one to open, one to keep carded).

Unfortunately, we have another $10 army builder - but he's so choice, how can you not buy a bunch of them?

I was skeptical on IG-88 when he was first rumored months ago, but now I'm a believer - he looks pretty damn cool with all that detail.

Bossk on the other hand was one I think we could've lived without - his earlier Saga version is pretty good by my standards.  I think one bounty hunter per wave is sufficient.  He suffers from the Greedo dilemma - he'll be a nice figure in the end, but is he really needed?

As well, you can't go wrong with Han or Luke - they are iconic characters/outfits so they should do well. 

Leia on the other hand, I don't know about.  We'll have to wait and see - soft goods are sooo hard to pull off correctly.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jayson on January 24, 2007, 01:58 PM
Hopefully those legs on IG-88 will "stand" ::) the test of time.

Those spindly suckers have battle-droid-flimsy-leg-syndrome written all over them!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on January 24, 2007, 01:59 PM
Yeah, it's nice they did Bossk, but I don't know if he belonged in the vintage category.  I suppose he's about the most recognizable minor character after Boba Fett from ESB though, plus someone at Hasbro really, really likes him, since they do him in every concievale incarnation.

I'll get a carded and loose set, and depending on how the Snowtrooper turns out, definitely a few of those.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on January 24, 2007, 03:55 PM
I think the Snowtrooper just needs some posing or attention from someone who has seen the movie.

I will not be writing him off until we see pics from Toy Fair.  If he is still lame looking or can't be helped at that point, then I will only buy a dozen.  That will show Hasbro....

I am stoked by this wave to the point that I'll order 2 cases (as I always do with Vintage) and buy the army builders one a time as I find them.

Here is why I think the skirt may be on wrong....no pouches...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/Snowtrooper.jpg)

Thanks to Wookipedia for the image.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_snow.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Vator on January 24, 2007, 04:10 PM
You'll notice, however, that pouches do appear to be under the skirt. These pictures all have a bit of a hard copy feel to them, so I'm guessing that the skirt is simply out of place right now.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: mr director on January 24, 2007, 04:21 PM
All in all, I just started collecting last year's VTSC and do not have the ones from a few years back, but by the look of these I will continues to get them.  Especially Han and Snowtrooper.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: evenflow on January 24, 2007, 06:08 PM
Ig-88 looks the best for me. I enjoy him the best.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Diddly on January 24, 2007, 07:25 PM
Sign me up for one of each and as many Snowtroopers as I can get my hands on! Luke, Leia, and Han are great, and a breath of fresh air after all the crappy versions of each we've had to buy over the years. IG-88 and Bossk are cool and will mix in fine with the other Bounty Hunters.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on January 24, 2007, 07:54 PM
the snowtrooper doesnt look too great, bossk is the best by far, leia very welcome, luke its about time, ig88 sign me up for 6, and han looks pretty cool.  ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2007, 09:23 PM
Quote
If he is still lame looking or can't be helped at that point, then I will only buy a dozen.  That will show Hasbro....

Hah!  I can't stop laughing at that.  :D

Again my random thoughts on the fumbuck of images we got today...  Big Ups to Jeff for some seriously kickass work too.

-Han...  Outstanding and perhaps my favorite of the figures pictured, and that says a TON...  I'm curious if we're going to get a snap-on hood-up or if that's something being reserved for a second release of the figure?  And where's Scott's post about the color?  I want a color debate god dammit!  I want to see a fight over this that even Hasbro acknowledges due to the epic scale of it!

Super articulation, well hidden too at the ankles, lots of "bulk" to the figure, great sculpt, and a fantastic likeness...  The color loosk blue-ish to me int he photo...  I'm a brown guy.   ;)

-Luke...  Love it.  I've hated old Tumorback Luke since 2002...  SA, lots of detail, I'm happy...  I just hope the legs aren't awkwardly spread apart.  That's a fear on many figures this year I think and Luke, I dunno about yet.

-Bossk...  Why do I love Trandoshans?  Because they gets alllllllllllllllllllll da ladies.  Jockin' the Wookiees and slappin' the ho's, that' livin' Trandoshan style.  OK, now that I have that weirdness out of the way, I love this figure...  I love Bossk in general despite others complaining we already got him twice.  This figure is amazing and I'm excited to pick him up.  I keep winding up with more and more Trandoshan fodder though because of new versions.  ::)

-IG-88...  I can't tell WHAT articulation is on this figure, but if I judged a figure by just aesthetics, this is a thing of beauty.  I see his bitchin' knife and I hope it's a removable accessory too...  Both blasters, I'm thinking he has super articulation by some miracle...  Outstanding if that's the case Hasbro...  Now prove to me this figure's super poseable and I'm gonna be completely happy...  Till then, it's probably the best sculpt of any figure in a long time in terms of intricate details.

-Endor Leia...  Tough to judge because of the poncho of course.  The poncho's sharp, as it was on Luke, SA of course, and a nice little pistol (first accurate leia gun sculpt ever I believe).  Tough to judge is all, but I expect good things.  I think people will bemoan her visible joints...  To get SA Leia's I'm willing to trade some of the aesthetic then.

-Snowtrooper...  THis one's tricky for me to judge...  Does anyone else feel like his thighs look spread apart awkwardly and like this one might be a pain to pose?  I hope this isn't the case and that the picture just doesn't do the figure justic...  I'm not terribly concerned on the skirt piece, as I agree these look like early prototypes and not production level stuff...  I agree though that I hope we see pouches on the outside there Paul, where they should be. 

Does he look to have a removable helmet with a cloth facemask?  I can't tell but that's somethign I always have wanted on a new SA Snowtrooper figure and I can almost tell myself that's what I see but I'm just not sure.  Either way it's a sharp sculpt, I just hope they didn't try to pre-pose those legs at all by making them awkwardly spread apart like the Death Star Trooper or Yavin Ceremonial Guard figures appeared...   :-\
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 24, 2007, 09:28 PM
sign me up for one of each and a couple extra snowtroopers :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on January 24, 2007, 09:43 PM
I'll start some color debates Jesse.  I'm a blue guy.   ;)  I bet you a buck they'll do both.  I have to believe there's some sort of hood up variation/accessory involved in this somewhere.  If not, I'll live, but I'd be shocked if they let that go.

The Snowtrooper suffers the worst from these grainy pics.  It's hard to tell what's going on with the mask (looks plastic to me, but toward the bottom, like cloth...) those legs are way too far apart, the skirt is a joke, but then it also looks very incomplete.  It's missing the belt and pouches, so maybe at TF we'll see a more satisfying version, kind of like with the Tusken Raider last year.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Reid on January 24, 2007, 10:06 PM
Pass on all of them. I would get the Snowtrooper, but I already have the TSC one.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on January 24, 2007, 10:41 PM
That picture is great because to me it looks brown and I can see how it could be blue too...almost like the movie...until you get Han out in the sun :P

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-04/hothhan2.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-04/hothan1.jpg)

Someone did a good write up here about the whole color of the coat thing...ahh...Here it is (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1095865671,61573,)

Anyone know if that thread is still alive anywhere at RS? 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on January 24, 2007, 10:51 PM
Nevermind I found it...

JoshEEE vs Old Cocky to the death...and GNT and Old Cocky share some warm fuzzies (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB36&Number=698752&Forum=,,,,c20,,,,&Words=Hoth%20Han&Searchpage=4&Limit=25&Main=698752&Search=true&where=sub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=7&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post698752)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on January 24, 2007, 11:05 PM
Why would whoever was in charge of the art direction give all these guys white/brown outfits and then give Han a blue jacket? 

Makes no sense.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Nicklab on January 24, 2007, 11:27 PM
I couldn't give a crap about the color of the jacket.  I like the figure, I don't care about the color.  The sculpt looks worlds better than the Saga version, and no doubt the articulation will be a great deal better, too.  I really like the accessories, too.  I wonder if there will be a SG hood, or if it might be sculpted to be down?

I like the bounty hunters, IG-88 especially.  But I think we're going to have to wait and see about the articulation and how sturdy it's going to be.  Hasbro knows that we've had issues with the flimsiness of the Battle Droids, and I hope they're taking appropriate measures so that those problems don't resurface.  As for Bossk, I have to wonder "why?"  We got a very good version in the Saga Gold line.  I see that yes, there are some very nice details to this sculpt, but I think other bounty hunters might have been more deserving of a resculpt before Bossk.

As for Luke and Leia, I don't think we really have good enough images to say how good they are.  Luke is posed with his body twisted in such a way that I can't see enough detail.  Leia looks nice and all, but the poncho covers up the entire body and the helmet doesn't let you see enough of the head sculpt.  Based on the track record the Vintage line has, I think we're probably in store for some good figures, but it would be nice to see more of these two.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on January 24, 2007, 11:49 PM
I think they posed Luke to try and match this shot:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_luke.jpg)(http://multimedia.theforce.net/museum/images/Images/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Luke_Skywalker/The_Empire_Strikes_Back/skywalk1.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on January 25, 2007, 12:03 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_bossk.jpg)(http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/sw0418bosskloose-m.jpg)
(http://starwars.wikia.com/images/d/d2/Bossk.jpg)(http://www.scgarrison.com/v22/bossk.jpg)

Just checking on Bossk here...

They sure cleaned him up real nice...lots of added straps and properly place costume accessories, redid the collar to match movie Bossk.  Saga Bossk and POTJ IG-88 are fine in my collection, I get why they did these because they are very popular characters and its a good way to keep the line going but it seems like a lot of work when there were probably better resculpt and just as popular candidates for the line:

Walrus Man
Admiral Ackbar
Wicket
Gammorean Guard

Just off the top of my head.  And not to confuse matters more but with the new Jawa, Death Squad Commander and rumored 4-LOM and Spirit Anakin, they are sort of getting ahead of themselves on potential down the road figures for the line.  Sort of a sticky wicket
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 25, 2007, 12:07 AM
I think they posed Luke to try and match this shot:

Isn't there another shot out there of Luke, right as he's getting bashed by the debris?

That's what it looks like to me.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on January 25, 2007, 12:19 AM
Pow!  Right in the kisser!

(http://multimedia.theforce.net/museum/images/Images/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Luke_Skywalker/The_Empire_Strikes_Back/LukeHitBybox-ESB-vcap.jpg)

Then the classic shot being swept away like a dust bunny -

(http://multimedia.theforce.net/museum/images/Images/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Luke_Skywalker/The_Empire_Strikes_Back/whoosh_2.jpg)

 ;)

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 25, 2007, 12:33 AM
That link has me laughing out loud as I read it Scott...  My god.

First impression is, MAN people were willing to accept a LOT of ugly bull**** on their action figures around the 2002 mark...  There was a whole lot of love for what basically ammounted to an unleashed figure that wasn't a ton of fun to play with. :)  Sure figures were $5 or so back then, but I'm glad I waited to get old Han on clearance along with a LOT of 2002's lineup because that figure sucked hard.  I realize that now more than ever.

Here's a great quote though from the end...

Quote
Edited to make it abit clearer...

Ok this thread is about Hoth Han not Jesse so please take any discussion about Jesse to Wuhers, please remain on topic of Hoth Han's coat.

[ 01-15-2004, 05:37 PM: Message edited by: Bounty Hunter GNT ]

Awww man...  Greg(g)'s here, fun's over...  ::)  I truly am reminded why I'm here.

I think we should have a thread about me somewhere, that is indeed a novel idea...  I'm sure there's some somewhere, but you aren't allowed to see them as they probably aren't the nicest. ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 25, 2007, 12:38 AM
Pow!  Right in the kisser!

Then the classic shot being swept away like a dust bunny

No, there's some other shot out there of Luke battling the debris--maybe it's just from the film, I don't know--but he fought off several pieces before the one knocked out the window.

Good try, though.

;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 25, 2007, 12:40 AM
I know the shot you're talking about Matt, it's him at the ready I think right before the debris starting flipping about.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 25, 2007, 09:48 AM
Paul, I was going to say the same thing about the pouches. The seem like too big of  detail to overlook. I'm going to guess that this will be corrected along with the skirt.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 25, 2007, 10:36 AM
I've just been mentally digesting all of the new figure photos from all of the waves, so I'm finally composed enough to write something  :P.  I mentioned this over at RS, but it appears that the Snowtrooper kama may be the kind given to the OFFICER as opposed to the grunts.  The officer is the one that Veers gives the order to de-bark inside the AT-AT cockpit.  This is a scan of the officer- note the kama that crosses over the groin instead of originating behind the back:

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p390d071e5f5e3bc40b8c207ed4ad055a/eaeec885.jpg)

You might notice that this variation has no pouches, and he has a rank badge on the upper chest armor.  The grunts DO have pouches, a kama that does not cross over the groin, and no rank badges.  The OTC version was made to represent the officer also- note the lack of pouches and the cross-over kama:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC/otc0425snowtrooperfront.jpg)

The Saga KITBASH is even closer to the vintage version, since it uses grunt legs:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/TSC011snowfront.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_snow.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Nooker21 on January 25, 2007, 12:53 PM
I hate to stir this debate up again, but shouldn't Han's jacket be blue based on the original figure? I loved the colour of that blue.  I'm also worried about the wide leg stances on some of these, but as long as they look good with the packaging, I suppose I shall not complain...
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on January 25, 2007, 01:34 PM
That's not a good sign with the Snowtrooper... Hoth Han is blue!   ;) They'll do both.  They like our money too much not to.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on January 25, 2007, 03:34 PM
Watch the brown one be shipped to retail, and you can only get a blue coated Han if you send in stickers that are included with all 6 figures, Ultimate Solo Hunt!

 ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: foolintherain76 on January 25, 2007, 03:57 PM
For the record, I'm a blue coat guy :)

What's up with Leia's knees/legs?  They look BAD.

Wave overall looks good, I'll get them all.

I think all the soft goods will look better in person/package than in picks.  It turned out that way with the previous Vintage Waves as well.

I remember the original Endor Leia had a pretty decent gun as well.  I just remember liking it as a kid b/c it was different and was very similar to the one in the movie.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on January 25, 2007, 04:01 PM
I just want to ask the blue coat people why...the vintage figure?  I can see them doing this figure blue.  Its a vintage rerelease and it would be a nice homage but there is absolutely irrifutible proof that the coat is brown
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 25, 2007, 04:03 PM
keep it brown. looks a little better.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: ruiner on January 25, 2007, 04:07 PM
there is absolutely irrifutible proof that the coat is brown

Only if you're a diehard SW fan who hangs out with other SW fans on chat boards!  If you're a casual fan who only watches the movies and collects vintage figures - then that's not true.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on January 25, 2007, 05:22 PM
Blue is for Smurfs.  I prefer my Hoth Han brown.  But either way, I'll be ok.

 ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on January 25, 2007, 05:41 PM
I like my Han brown too, I never see blue. Lucas should fix that like the Carbon scene (Han looks like he was wearing a vest).

Han- Nice much better than that Saga peice of **** we all have now. Why must they re-use the '04 VOTC  Han for every Vintage style Han? I hope his hood is removable or you can pull it up.

IG-88- Quite a gem here! I see SA when opened. Such an improvement!

Bossk- Only a few improvements compared to the rest of this year's line-up

Bespin Luke- WOW! No zit on his back! :o

Snow Trooper -I hope the final version has the bag things, so he looks accurate

Endor Leia- Complain about the knees all you want but she rocks.
Dammit Hasbro, another great line-up!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth Broem on January 25, 2007, 07:42 PM
I know it's brown but I still see blue.  Damn you Kenner!  LOL! 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 25, 2007, 07:52 PM
Is anyone else a little concerned on the Hoth Stormtrooper?   :-\  The more I look at that photo the more that leg pose is bugging the **** out of me...  I can deal with the skirt...  I can even fix that I think.  That leg pose is really starting to frighten me though as possibly a killer to this figure...  It is a little irking to think that the worst figure in the group might be the army builder, and that Hasbro might STILL be giving us pre-posed Snowtroopers.  Hmmm...

I'm really REALLY hoping it's just a trick of the way the figure is angled in the photo and things.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on January 25, 2007, 08:01 PM
I just want to ask the blue coat people why...the vintage figure? 

For me that is the reason I always want Blue.  Simply Good Old Days Syndrome.  I can't even lie to myself and say that it looks blue anymore.   
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Diddly on January 25, 2007, 08:57 PM
Is anyone else a little concerned on the Hoth Stormtrooper?   :-\  The more I look at that photo the more that leg pose is bugging the **** out of me...  I can deal with the skirt...  I can even fix that I think.  That leg pose is really starting to frighten me though as possibly a killer to this figure...  It is a little irking to think that the worst figure in the group might be the army builder, and that Hasbro might STILL be giving us pre-posed Snowtroopers.  Hmmm...

I'm really REALLY hoping it's just a trick of the way the figure is angled in the photo and things.

The more I look at it, the more I see it too. I'm sure the skirt will be fixed (as soft good accessories usually are, they always look bad on prototypes), but the leg stance does look a bit spread out. And it IS scary, as well. ALL the past Vintage figures have been sculpted in a neutral stance (except for C-3PO, but I don't count him as a Vintage figure :P), and it would certainly suck to see Hasbro start preposing them. And the Snowtrooper is a figure we've all wanted an SA version of for a good long while.

I suppose we'll have to wait for Toy Fair (or a Hasbro Q&A) to find out for sure.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 26, 2007, 09:36 AM
One thing I did notice about the snowtrooper, if you look closely under the skirt, you can see what looks to be bags or holsters on both sides.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on January 26, 2007, 12:28 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-07/V30AC_snow.jpg)

Those are ball jointed knees, so I don't think it will be too much of a problem with this figure... I think it looks fine.  If the legs are a bit staggered, I won't have a problem with it... all mine I get will be in a diorama anyway blasting some Rebels, and won't be standing "at attention."  Best looking figure of the bunch I think, but the kama does concern me a bit.  I hope it's not a fuzzy material like the VSTC Greedo vest.  That's the only potential downfall I see on this figure.

If we're looking for spread eagle poses, the Luke seems to suffer from that a bit more I think?  And I have no idea why they'd make the Leia's knee joints look so akward.  Should be an easy fix with a dremel though at least on Leia.

 ;)

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on January 26, 2007, 03:27 PM
Very disappointing that the Snowtrooper won't be able to stand neutrally.

That probably just shaved 15 off of the number of him that I'm buying.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 26, 2007, 03:51 PM
Very disappointing that the Snowtrooper won't be able to stand neutrally.

That probably just shaved 15 off of the number of him that I'm buying.



My hope is that almost everyone feels the same way.

Although, I can't believe how many scout troopers I found.  I bought 30 and could have had double that.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: IshiTib on January 26, 2007, 05:09 PM
i maybe buy bossk and ig88, other figures look great, but i don't need them
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: MetalJedi on January 26, 2007, 06:49 PM
I'll be buying Han,Bossk (multiples for customs), a few of the Snowtrooper and IG-88. Luke and Leia I'll have to see in person.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on January 26, 2007, 09:18 PM
i'm really excited! im probbly most excited about bossk followed by han.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on January 26, 2007, 09:39 PM
Hopefully snow trooper won't have the same problem as Cody. :-X
I'm still getting as many as I see, I learnt my lesson with the scout. (x 1 out of the 80 I've probally seen but atleast he's being re-packed next year)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on January 26, 2007, 10:42 PM
My hope is that almost everyone feels the same way.

Although, I can't believe how many scout troopers I found.  I bought 30 and could have had double that.

I'm gonna make the call once I see one in person.... as for the numbers, I think Hasbro's figured out by now that they can sell these guys and that they need to get lots of the SA OT Troops out there.

I bought about 25 biker Scouts and probably could have had 150 if I bought every one I passed up.

Hell, 6 or 7 of mine I got on clearance for $2.50

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on January 27, 2007, 12:17 AM
I see no problem with finding snow troopers next year, all of them will warm. I'm worried about the basic troops (Stormies, SBDs, Marines & Air Borne)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 27, 2007, 02:55 AM
Given we've not seen a case breakdown yet, I wouldn't speak so fast on that issue...  Snowtroopers 1 to a case, Bossk 5.  I'm just saying...  it could happen.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Kit on January 27, 2007, 05:32 AM
Exciting figures.....

Bespin Luke: It's about freakin time.
Snowtrooper: I hope that picture doesn't due the figure justice.  We will see about the preposed/legs
                   and the skirt when the final product is out.  If all is well, it's 20+ biker scout caliber army   
                   building time.
IG-88: Badass looking mofo.
Bossk: I'll take this badboy.  However, I would of prefered Zuckuss or 4-Lom in this set.
Endor Leia: Hard to say with that poncho.  She looks good standing next to endor luke.
Han: Very good likeness.  It's time to give us an updated open belly taun-taun with intestines hasbro.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 27, 2007, 11:39 AM
I see no problem with finding snow troopers next year, all of them will warm.

You really think so? I'm pretty confident that despite the early pics, it'll be the first one to go.

The plus side is that out of a case of 10, the Snowtrooper should be 2 per case in every revision.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on January 27, 2007, 11:42 AM
i think han and leia will warm. they have a history of doing so not only in the vintage lines but also in the basic lines. but cool for me, more availability. (of them at least)

i just noticed that despite the fact that this is the 30th anniversary of ANH, there are no ANH characters in the vintage line this year.

i wonder if there will be another 'collect all the vintage figs to get a cool mailaway' offer this year?
UGH 2.0...
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 27, 2007, 11:43 AM
I dont think the Snow trooper will Peg warm. if anything i can see Boosk IG-88 and maybe Leia peg warm. Luke will be the first to go, followed by Han followed the the snowtrooper. this is just based on patterns I have noticed with those figures in my area. based on the titanium figures Boosk and IG-88 shouldnt be TOO hard to find....Then again i could be wrong...very wrong.  ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on January 27, 2007, 11:46 AM
i agree, luke will be first to go. but i disagree about ig88 warming, i think he'll be one of the hardest to find.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 27, 2007, 11:52 AM
Quote
agree, luke will be first to go. but i disagree about ig88 warming, i think he'll be one of the hardest to find

i can see him being one of the hardest to find to...im just talking about the stores in my area though. when the vintage first came out...there was half an aisle literally jammed packed with vintage figures. luke was the only one to be sold out...on the first day, then the scout, the other three figures were left on the shelf for a good month or so before it was down to only greedo.

im just basing my guess that Boosk and IG-88 will warm because one of them is an aliean the other a droid and none of them are main characters. then there is the fact that if they are shipped with more in a box then the snowtroop and luke they will be easier to get, and there will be more left on the shelves.

and of course remember im just talking about this based on my area. for sure though after a month that this line is realesed they will all be hard to find.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on January 28, 2007, 03:16 AM
X 4 Bossk
X 8 Han Solo
x 3 Luke
x 2 Leia
x 1 IG-88
x 1 Snow Trooper
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 28, 2007, 11:35 AM
X 4 Bossk
X 8 Han Solo
x 3 Luke
x 2 Leia
x 1 IG-88
x 1 Snow Trooper

What are you gonna do with all the Hans?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on January 28, 2007, 08:54 PM
No that's what Habsro's gonna have for the case assortment. I only want one of each besides the stormie, unless I find them for sales for customs.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on January 29, 2007, 12:14 AM
the case assortment?! WTF?!! han will warm. but, good for us, he looks good.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 29, 2007, 12:31 AM
maybe IG-88 wont be such a peg warmer anymore  :P :-X :-\

atleast ill be able to get my boosk and han though.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 01:55 AM
Boosk

Quote
Boosk

Boosk

boosk

Who the **** is "Boosk?"

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 29, 2007, 08:39 AM
alien dude. only alien in this set. yellow flight suit. hes in ESB. one of the bounty hunters vader hires. hes pretty cool ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 09:16 AM
alien dude. only alien in this set. yellow flight suit. hes in ESB. one of the bounty hunters vader hires. hes pretty cool ::)

He has a name?!  I just always thought he was called "Scary Lizard Guy" or something.

Anyway, thanks for the info!  (http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/thumpsup.gif)  You learn something new every day in this hobby.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 29, 2007, 09:38 AM
the case assortment?! WTF?!! han will warm. but, good for us, he looks good.

Artoo was being facetious.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on January 29, 2007, 10:10 AM
the case assortment?! WTF?!! han will warm. but, good for us, he looks good.

Artoo was being facetious.

oh good.  :-[

well, with hasbro, you never know...  :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 10:15 AM
X 4 Bossk
X 8 Han Solo
x 3 Luke
x 2 Leia
x 1 IG-88
x 1 Snow Trooper

19 to a case?!  Holy geez, that's crazy!

Nice job, Has-blow.   ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 29, 2007, 02:08 PM
That Han and 'Boosk ;)' better sell well for the case ratio that was decided ::)

DS
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 29, 2007, 03:30 PM
DC, Matt... just cause i spelt the name wrong does not mean you have to be jerks about it.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 03:44 PM
DC, Matt... just cause i spelt the name wrong does not mean you have to be jerks about it.

Aww, ****, "Jango_Fett_89," get over yourself.  Just having some fun with you.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 29, 2007, 03:47 PM
just cut it out.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 03:50 PM
just cut it out.

How dare you.

(http://pinokochiko.fc2web.com/temp/make/photo/jyoi1.jpg)

(R.I.P.)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 29, 2007, 03:55 PM
you usually this much of an ass?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 04:01 PM
you usually this much of an ass?

Yeah, pretty much.

 :-\
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 29, 2007, 04:03 PM
fair enough, i guess ill have to TRY and get used to it then.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 04:06 PM
fair enough, i guess ill have to TRY and get used to it then.

Good luck--most people around here just put me on their ignore list.  Makes it much easier for them.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: ruiner on January 29, 2007, 04:10 PM
Wait a minute, there's an 'ignore' option here?!


Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 29, 2007, 04:13 PM
what ever you say
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on January 29, 2007, 04:14 PM
Wait a minute, there's an 'ignore' option here?!

If there is, I'd like to be directed to it. 

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 04:17 PM
Wait a minute, there's an 'ignore' option here?!

If there is, I'd like to be directed to it. 

 :P

Does Yakface have an ignore list?  They have to, 'cause I hardly ever see anybody posting over there.  I must have accidentally turned it on or something.

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on January 29, 2007, 05:00 PM
Wait a minute, there's an 'ignore' option here?!

If there is, I'd like to be directed to it. 

 :P

Does Yakface have an ignore list?  They have to, 'cause I hardly ever see anybody posting over there.  I must have accidentally turned it on or something.

 :P

Tell me how you really feel. :)

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: DoctorPadawan on January 29, 2007, 06:16 PM
Whoawhoawhoa....wait just a minute here....I think we're all missing the true importance of this conversation with all the back-and-forth arguing...

Dave Coulier is dead?

 ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 08:21 PM
Dave Coulier is dead?

Where you been?  Uncle Joey's been dead for like four years now.

Not a day goes by that I don't miss that unfunny bastard.

Tell me how you really feel. :)

 :P

If I did that, they'd probably put me on the permanent ignore list (for reals), and you wouldn't want that, would you?

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Nicklab on January 29, 2007, 08:26 PM
Dave Coulier is dead?

Where you been?  Uncle Joey's been dead for like four years now.

Not a day goes by that I don't miss that unfunny bastard.


Pshaw!  He ain't dead. IMDB told me so!!! (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0183417/)  :P  Sad that I felt compelled to look that up.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on January 29, 2007, 08:43 PM
Would a dead man be doing Stand Up comedy? (http://www.cutitout.net/flash.html) I don't think so!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 08:53 PM
It's all part of a vast right wing conspiracy, using a complex network of look-a-likes, CGI footage, and (in some cases) animatronics, to dupe the masses into believing that the man's still with us, because before his death, Coulier was pulling in hundreds of dollars a year, and the heirs to his estate just aren't ready to give that up yet.

But one day, it'll all come out, and you all can join the ranks of the enlightened, like me.

The truth is out there.

RIP, DC '59-03
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on January 29, 2007, 08:59 PM
Color me confused then...

Right here:

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5932.msg196770#msg196770

You claim he's alive and I say he's dead, I wish you would keep your story straight.  And please remember, posting false information about people on the internet could land you in some hot water :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on January 29, 2007, 09:01 PM
You Oughta Know.  ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2007, 10:30 PM
Color me confused then...

Right here:

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5932.msg196770#msg196770

You claim he's alive and I say he's dead, I wish you would keep your story straight.  And please remember, posting false information about people on the internet could land you in some hot water :P

I never said I wasn't part of the vast right wing conspiracy, did I?

 ???













Or did I?

 :o

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 30, 2007, 09:37 AM
So..., how 'bout those '07 Vintage figures?   ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: jedipurge on January 30, 2007, 11:44 AM
So..., how 'bout those '07 Vintage figures?   ;D

You said it.  Start a different thread if this is where the "discussion" on the Vintage figs are going.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 30, 2007, 12:02 PM
Is it just me or does IG-88 look like hes gonna have swivel elbows:  :-\
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 1, 2007, 09:58 AM
Is it just me or does IG-88 look like hes gonna have swivel elbows:  :-\

I thought it might be ball jointed, I don't think it's far fetched. In fact, the figure look pretty SA to me.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 1, 2007, 08:29 PM
I was thinking it looked a little more poseable too Anton...  Given the way a ball joint can be done, it's pretty easily conceived for this figure's swizzlestick arms I think.  Either way that's one hell of a great figure aesthetically and he even has his knife...  his friggin' knife!  That kicks ass.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on February 1, 2007, 08:54 PM
he has the KNIFE?!! sweet!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on February 1, 2007, 10:23 PM
Well im really hoping IG is SA too its just hard to tell about his elbows from the picture. But i could and Hope that i am wrong.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 2, 2007, 01:39 PM
Please please please let him be proper scale (read:taller than the POTJ version).  I'm more concerned with his height than his POA.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on February 2, 2007, 08:16 PM
Well. This thread is..... way OT. ::)
So how 'bout those knees on Leia? POTF 2 looking or what!?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2007, 08:43 PM
The past 6 posts, all about vintage figures...  The other stuff is inside humor among friends.  We moderate our own boards guys, thanks, so if things get out of hand we'll deal with it, but by our own standards of what is out of hand.  The topic's already moved back to the vintage figures, it was hardly as though it strayed for 3 pages or something, so let's keep the moderating hopefuls to a minimum guys.  We've got our forums under control so try to enjoy life and stress less about a few off topic posts.

All is right with the world...  And the vintage figures look friggin' great.

On the issue of scale, I didn't realize IG-88 was that much taller than other characters...  Have a photo of him with the others DB, so we can see the difference?  I thought the last one was decent, if not poseable.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on February 2, 2007, 10:15 PM
Well. This thread is..... way OT. ::)
So how 'bout those knees on Leia? POTF 2 looking or what!?

Here's something that's off-topic for you:

Do you ever plan on adding anything interesting or original to any given conversation around here, ever?  Or is it just gonna be more of the same-old, regurgitated, one-or-two-line "me too" type of posts from here on out?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 2, 2007, 10:35 PM
Well. This thread is..... way OT. ::)
So how 'bout those knees on Leia? POTF 2 looking or what!?

Definitely.  I thought the same thing, kinda reminds me of the 1995 Han Solo with the far apart legs for no apparent reason.  Don't like them myself. I think it's possible that this figure might be meant to sit on a speeder bike.  Also, we need to see more pics, it might prove to be not as bad as a sculpt as it seems in this one shot.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: ruiner on February 2, 2007, 11:03 PM
Don't like them myself. I think it's possible that this figure might be meant to sit on a speeder bike. 

Funny you should mention that.  I think Pawlus knows something the rest of us don't....for the time being.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on February 2, 2007, 11:17 PM
Funny you should mention that.  I think Pawlus knows something the rest of us don't....for the time being.

Two quick points:

A.  The Adam doing the Galactic Blogger is Adam May, not Adam Pawlus.

B.  Adam Pawlus always knows something the rest of us don't--for the time being, for the time past, and for the time future.  He is, without question, the top authority on the hobby, and if you don't believe me, just ask him.  He'll tell you.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 3, 2007, 12:50 AM
I'm going off of memory here, JJ, but I seem to recall a reference pic of IG-88 standing one stair level below the other bounty hunters (presumably so the wires that control his movement are off-camera), so while his height may have appeared comparable, he should technically be at least a stair step taller.

Edit: I should just find the pic ahead of time  :P.  Check out his height compared to the others, and consider that he's also a step below the main floor too.

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/6/63/BountyHunters.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Nicklab on February 3, 2007, 01:38 AM
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/6/63/BountyHunters.jpg)

Probably the best character for a height comparison in this image is Dengar, because he's only a foot or two closer to camera than IG-88.  The other Bounty Hunters are signifigantly closer so it would make it hard to compare their heights.  It looks like the top of Dengar's head should be about even with IG-88's shoulder if they were all standing on the same level.  I hope the figure is pretty tall as a result.  IG-88 looks almost Wookiee tall.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on February 3, 2007, 01:55 AM
They better make him size accurate then.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2007, 02:23 AM
Holy hell he should be a bit taller there, shouldn't he?  Thanks Daigo-Bah, that helped a lot man...  Also fun to note how short Boba Fett is...  There were some gripes on Fett's height from the VOTC figure, but looking at that show and comparable to Dengar (who seems in line with everyone else as far as height goes), Fett is noticeably shorter than Dengar (even with a helmet on for goodness sake). 

Little short for a Stormtrooper?  You'd be medically defined as a dwarf if you were I think, if they're clones of this guy I'm looking at. ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on February 3, 2007, 10:45 AM
^^^^^   Hey theres nothing wrong with short people. ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 3, 2007, 11:45 AM

Don't like them myself. I think it's possible that this figure might be meant to sit on a speeder bike. 

I'd be disappointed if that was the case. Ball jointed hips would have done the job with better aesthetics.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: ruiner on February 3, 2007, 12:08 PM

Two quick points:

A.  The Adam doing the Galactic Blogger is Adam May, not Adam Pawlus.


No ****?  I did not know that.  I thought he was using some kind of nickname or something.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on February 6, 2007, 07:05 PM
Well. This thread is..... way OT. ::)
So how 'bout those knees on Leia? POTF 2 looking or what!?

Here's something that's off-topic for you:

Do you ever plan on adding anything interesting or original to any given conversation around here, ever?  Or is it just gonna be more of the same-old, regurgitated, one-or-two-line "me too" type of posts from here on out?
Me too.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2007, 11:30 PM
Yeah there's two adams over yonder...  May's a whole other person.  You'll notice now that their writing styles are pretty different from each other probably. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Brian on February 8, 2007, 03:29 PM
I was thinking about these upcoming figures again today, and I was curious - how many of you buy multiples of the VOTC/VTSC/V30AC figures, even aside from troop/army building figures?  For the most part, the vintage line has always been my favorite part of my collection, and the assortment I look forward to the most each year now.  Although I didn't have the funds (or foresight) to do it with the initial 12 figures, I picked up extras of several of last year's assortment (including a few on clearance), and thought about doing it this year.  Now, with my attempt to cut back significantly on spending, I'm starting to wonder how many I really need.  I have a seperate shelf that I display the vintage figures on their own, but as I mentioned, last time I picked up an extra of each to keep carded, as well as an extra of each to put in my "regular" basic figure display cabinet (not to mention a few more of "army builders" like the Scout and Tusken).  So, with the 5 released last year I had at least three of each, in some cases more.

I'm now thinking that I can't do this anymore, and at $10 a figure (unless they clearance) it doesn't make sense for me personally to do this.  I'm thinking this year, and from now on, I might just pick up two of each (more for army builders) one to display loose and one to keep carded.  Then if there are clearances or re-releases down the road (like this year's Saga Legends VOTC Fett) I can get any extras I might want.  Now, I'm not normally a carded collector - at all.  The only things I really have are some Han and Chewies, and then the VOTC/VTSC carded figures.  I only have three from the initial run carded, but hope to get the rest eventually, and those figures will just be my "carded display".  Anyways, long story short, I was curious if any of you buy extras of the "vintage" figures - even outside of army builders.  And, if so, why do you buy extras and do you wait for clearance/re-releases? 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 8, 2007, 03:41 PM
I buy extras usually Brian, but I try to get them cheap...  One way I managed that was people looking for an extra Lucas figure this year seemed more than willing to sell me whole sets for half off.  That's $5 a figure so it really worked out.

I also ran into dealers at the Toy Show in December here who were selling figures for $5 as well, and one loaded me up with Tuskens.  No Scouts but Tuskens were nice since I'd not seen many for a lesser price and wanted to army build them as well.

I'm sort of hoping there's some figure promo with the vintage this year but it seems that isn't happening unless it's a well kept secret.  For $10 a figure though, I think this line SHOULD offer a mail-in offer every year to be honest...  It sort of helps ease that price slightly.  At least I know that's how I view this past year's to the 2004 line.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on February 8, 2007, 06:15 PM
Well. This thread is..... way OT. ::)
So how 'bout those knees on Leia? POTF 2 looking or what!?

Definitely.  I thought the same thing, kinda reminds me of the 1995 Han Solo with the far apart legs for no apparent reason.  Don't like them myself. I think it's possible that this figure might be meant to sit on a speeder bike.  Also, we need to see more pics, it might prove to be not as bad as a sculpt as it seems in this one shot.
The VTSC Scout can sit on the bike with out cut knees. I can take that as an excuse for the wide- leg stance, but not the knees! Besides the knees IMHO the figure is great!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 10, 2007, 05:27 PM
As per our Toy Fair coverage...

2007 is the year of the coin.  Instead of a lame figure you mail-away for coins, I'd assume to complete the booklet, but either way that's cool to me...  At least it's something that eases the $10 pricepoint a bit. 

I kind of thought this might be the route they went this year...  I was hopeful of some mail-in promo.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: evenflow on February 10, 2007, 07:04 PM
I am happy with the mail away coins. In a way a nice nod to the vintage line.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 10, 2007, 07:21 PM
Blue coat Han?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 10, 2007, 07:24 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/tn_TF_2007_Hasbro_0007.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0007.jpg)
Clicky to see

He looks browner to me...  at least in this photo.

Now the great "what coat color does the toy have" debate can start. :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 10, 2007, 07:27 PM
Looks like he's got a snap on hood too?

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0052.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 10, 2007, 07:32 PM
Interesting possible story on that to come Dressel...  Stay tuned.

In the meantime, clicky the images and enjoy the picture goodness...  You guys can thank Rob/Paul here because they did outstanding work getting good shots.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/tn_TF_2007_Hasbro_0044.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0044.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/tn_TF_2007_Hasbro_0043.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0043.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/tn_TF_2007_Hasbro_0046.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0046.jpg)
And IG-88 HAS his knife and both blasters...  And as per our story earlier during our pre-photo coverage of Toy Fair, he's noticeably taller than the other characters in the vintage line-up making him hopefully the proper scale for the character (thanks to Dago-Bah's photos showing he's a step below everyone).
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 10, 2007, 07:33 PM
Interesting possible story on that to come Dressel...  Stay tuned.


I do see this funky hat visor thing at his feet here:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0060.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 10, 2007, 07:42 PM
Eh, any of those are still possible, I'll say that...  I'm not sure on that.  I have to talk to the guys again to get some more specs.

In the meantime enjoy the goodness that is Bossk... Sure we've all got him, but he ain't this friggin' cool is he? :)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/tn_TF_2007_Hasbro_0011.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0011.jpg)

And the Snowtrooper...
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/tn_TF_2007_Hasbro_0009.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0009.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/tn_TF_2007_Hasbro_0010.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0010.jpg)
As noted in our pre-photo coverage of the show, the Snowtrooper was said by Hasbro reps to NOT be the final product, and that the skirt would be a ligher fabric similar to that of Endor Luke's poncho.

Also the other details like the pouches are hopefully fixed along with the cloth.

The gaping legs of the SNowtrooper bother me but not enough to stop me from army building.  I think the stance can get fixed with a boil/freeze.  Too bad they got goofy with his stance though...  why on earth do that?   ???
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 10, 2007, 07:45 PM


The gaping legs of the SNowtrooper bother me but not enough to stop me from army building.  I think the stance can get fixed with a boil/freeze.  Too bad they got goofy with his stance though...  why on earth do that?   ???

Yeah I really didn't want many standing at attention anyhow, most will be displayed in battle gunning down Hoth Rebel Troopers if we ever get any.  In the meantime I have customized Derlins holding their place.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth Broem on February 10, 2007, 09:42 PM
Oh man.  I am geeked out for these figures after seeing the pics.  Luke looks much better than the previous "leaked" photo. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: speedermike on February 10, 2007, 09:44 PM
These look great!  The packages have a "Special Offer" sticker on them.  What's that all about?  Looks like Fett.  Maybe an ESB paintjob?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on February 10, 2007, 09:46 PM
The snowtrooper in the Package actually had a more closed stance than the loose prototype.  Not standing at attention by any means, but still a bit more narrow.

The Luke in person is much better than that leaked photo from a week or so ago, and I think the photo's prove that.

The packaged display version was not painted skin/flesh like the prototypes, but cast/molded like the figures have been lately.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on February 10, 2007, 09:48 PM
The packages have a "Special Offer" sticker on them.  What's that all about? 

Earlier in the thread...


As per our Toy Fair coverage...

2007 is the year of the coin.  Instead of a lame figure you mail-away for coins, I'd assume to complete the booklet, but either way that's cool to me...  At least it's something that eases the $10 pricepoint a bit. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 10, 2007, 09:52 PM
Quote
Interesting possible story on that to come Dressel...  Stay tuned.

Check the front page guys...  Interesting stuff out there. ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Greg on February 10, 2007, 10:04 PM
I really like these six figures. All of them look very well articulated while retaining detailed sculpts and good paint jobs. I think the coins are a cool giveaway, and I'm definitely interested in getting one of each figure. I may also try to get three additional Snow Troopers. I hope that Lucasfilm approves the hooded head for Han Solo, because I think it looks great. I have high hopes for these vintage-style figures. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on February 10, 2007, 11:01 PM
cool! cool! cool!  8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on February 10, 2007, 11:23 PM

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-06/TF_2007_Hasbro_0132.jpg)

Man, I hope we get both heads - I love the hood down look, but I'd also grab an opener to display with the "hooded" head too.   ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 11, 2007, 12:07 AM
Yeah, let's hope Lucasfilm gives the thumbs up on including both heads!

And on another note, the Snowtrooper looks a hell of a lot better in the packaged pic because they've used a different material for the 'skirt' that isn't so fluffy.  Now they just need adjust the cut so it goes a little higher and it'll be perfect.

Not so good:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0075.jpg)


Much better:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0133.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on February 11, 2007, 12:14 AM
Yeah, and having the pouches on the outside of the skirt (like the carded one) helps a ton too... I can see myself buying quite a few of thee if they turn out like the carded one there.   :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 11, 2007, 12:17 AM
I can see myself buying quite a few of thee if they turn out like the carded one there.   :)

No kidding!  I'm going to need a bigger shelf for my Hoth display.  :D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on February 11, 2007, 12:21 AM
I'm just getting them for the vintage style packaging.  :P

They look great, not sure if I will send in for the 7 coin offer by the looks of the sticker. Will see.   
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 11, 2007, 12:27 AM
I really don't have any interest in the coin since I'm pretty much only buying OT figures and so obviously won't be a completist with the figures or their coins. 

As always though, the vintage cardbacks kick ass so I'll be buying a carded set (and many loose ones as well).
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 11, 2007, 12:51 AM
All of these figures look pretty outstanding and yeah, the visible puches on the snowtrooper make a huge difference. I'm just continually amazed that Hasbro is going the extra mile for these figures.

(They better for $10.)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on February 11, 2007, 12:55 AM
If it can stand as neutrally as it is in the package - that'll be good enough for me.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: AmanaMatt on February 11, 2007, 01:19 AM
I just want to say 'Thanks' to all the folks at JediDefender that took these awesome pics! They really do the figures justice.

I must say that I am blown away by most of the Vintage figs this year, especially Ig-88 and Bossk.....that Han Hoth is a work of art!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 11, 2007, 02:07 AM
IG has his knife people...  his knife...  I'm shocked.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on February 11, 2007, 03:03 AM
I figured there would be some sort of alternate head or hood for Han, but it looks like they're going gonzo on it.  I hope they do go forward with it.  The only issue I have with the improved Snowtrooper in the carded sample is the cut should be a lot higher.  It just doesn't look right at all.  Other than that, it's fantastic.  Luke is even better.  IG-88 is the figure I expected the least from and got the most from, Bossk is Bossk, and Leia is sweet, but not $10 sweet.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 11, 2007, 12:31 PM
Hasbro's rep (I believe it was DePriest) did tell our folks in the field that the Snowtrooper's skirt is NOT final, including the carded sample, and that they too were going to do a higher cut as you suggested Spuffy.  So don't fret yet...  Apparantly neither Snowie was the final look of the figure.

Of the vintage figs, he's the most disappointing to me unfortunately, due to the leg stance.  The positive there is that it's a very small gripe since I think it's a fixable issue...  And it doesn't look quite as bad on the card too which makes me hope it's really just the loose sample that looks so rough.

Removable helmet on the Snowtrooper, or no?  Thoughts?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: evenflow on February 11, 2007, 12:47 PM
It would be awesome if Han came with both heads. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on February 11, 2007, 01:13 PM
Hasbro's rep (I believe it was DePriest) did tell our folks in the field that the Snowtrooper's skirt is NOT final, including the carded sample, and that they too were going to do a higher cut as you suggested Spuffy. 

Removable helmet on the Snowtrooper, or no?  Thoughts?

That's good to hear that they're going to work on the skirt piece.  That was really hanging me up, because he's my favorite trooper and you'd think he's not hard to mess up. 

That helmet absolutely comes off.   :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 11, 2007, 01:28 PM


Removable helmet on the Snowtrooper, or no?  Thoughts?

Looking at the size of the helmet combined with the "space" (shadow) that's visible under the mask, I wouldn't be surprised.  Flip a coin though, the helmet could just be that big for ***** and giggles (and film accuracy).
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: speedermike on February 11, 2007, 01:49 PM
The only weak bit on these Vinty figs is Bespin Luke's chest/jacket proportions.  To accomodate what looks like a ball socket waist (Like pilot Obi-Wan) they had to end his jacket very high.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 11, 2007, 02:54 PM
The only weak bit on these Vinty figs is Bespin Luke's chest/jacket proportions. 

And the fact that the likeness on both the Luke and Leia is of poor quality.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on February 11, 2007, 04:33 PM
I'm really only interested in IG-88, bounty hunters are very cool characters. I might get bossk but i can't see enough difference between this one and the saga collection one I got 2 years ago. I might also get  bespin luke because looks pretty good to me.
I only got the biker scout and sandperson last year but since my son got the dagobah swamp x-wing for christmas, I wish I could find the x-wing pilot luke for a decent price to go in it.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on February 11, 2007, 08:24 PM
The only weak bit on these Vinty figs is Bespin Luke's chest/jacket proportions. 

And the fact that the likeness on both the Luke and Leia is of poor quality.
You are looking at hard copies.  I would expect final product to be spot on
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on February 11, 2007, 08:36 PM
The loose images you guys are seeing are definately Prototypes.  We were told the figures would resemble the pacakaged figures more than the Protos....

The carded Luke looked 10 times better, I promise.

The carded IG88 and Leia were in an area outside the Star Wars booth that had a wicked sun glare when we were taking photos. 

Leia's head is a bit odd and we did not get to see it very well.

On the snowtrooper helmet, the prototype definately had a removable helmet, but I could not tell on the carded version.  No idea what it looked like under there as we did not get a chance to take them off.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on February 11, 2007, 08:38 PM
oops that was me posting that guys, Rob was uploading more images from my lap top so he was signed in...sorry.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on February 12, 2007, 01:14 AM
Imposter!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 12, 2007, 03:36 AM
I still can't get over this line for next year...  A perfect Hoth Han like that, especially if both heads get delivered, is really something I've wanted for a long time.  I never did care for the Saga figure...  But add to that Bespin Luke who I also never liked nearly as much as most people did (both sucked due to the action feature and pre-posed sculpting).  That's overload for me really...  The whole weekend's been overload in some ways.

Hasbro didn't do shabby this Toy Fair, I'm honestly shocked since they were really left without a lot to show us.  The stuff we'd seen images of already on the front page here was still exciting to see "in person" and detail now though. 

I never thought to get you guys to ask about IG-88's articulation count...  I'm still perplexed on that, but thinking it's SA actually, and that's just amazing if it's pulled off to be functional and sturdy.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 12, 2007, 10:27 AM
Hasbro's rep (I believe it was DePriest) did tell our folks in the field that the Snowtrooper's skirt is NOT final, including the carded sample, and that they too were going to do a higher cut as you suggested Spuffy. 

Removable helmet on the Snowtrooper, or no?  Thoughts?

That's good to hear that they're going to work on the skirt piece. 

That helmet absolutely comes off.   :)

Same here. I just caught this comment and I'm very pleased.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 12, 2007, 10:48 AM
 :-\

Am I the only one that doesn't want the helmet to come off?  I'm not that big a fan of revisionist history, so I'd prefer not seeing Jango's head, yet again.  Yeah, I know, I can just leave it on. 

Was there any word (or has there been in past, I can't recall) of a second wave for 2007?  I know there's been discussion of what will likely be seen in the line (bounty hunters, army builders, iconic characters) but I'm still jonesing for my Jawa (seems unlikely given the regular version that's pretty nice) and the Death Squad Commander to round out the original twelve.  I'm not at all griping about the regular release Jawa, it looks superb.  But I am disappointed as it may indicate we won't see it in this lineup and on this cardback.  Personally, I just don't get it.  It's weird that a company like Medicom understands history and the vintage line better than the company that's charged with taking care of the figures.  Obviously this sub-line is geared more towards the collector, so why ignore certain parts of it? 

I guess if there is a second set for '07 I'd expect/hope to see the following:
Jawa
Death Squad Commander
Hoth Luke
Dengar
4-LOM (or is it Zuckuss)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: ruiner on February 12, 2007, 10:54 AM
I'm pretty sure there's only one wave per year from here on out. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Brian on February 12, 2007, 11:03 AM
I think all of these look pretty nice, and I'm glad to see the probable changes in the Snowtrooper as well.  Having the pouches on the outside alone improves the look of the figure quite a bit.  The Hoth Han is the one I'm looking forward to the most, I wasn't ever totally happy with the Saga version either.  Hopefully we'll get that extra "hood up" head, but its still a good figure regardless.  I look forward to this little sub-line the most every year, and this looks like a great lineup overall.  Now if I can just restrain myself from buying too many extras at $10 each :).
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 12, 2007, 11:18 AM
I still want to know if there'll be a short packed chase figure of blue coat Han?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 13, 2007, 02:56 AM
Someone told me something funny about the Hoth Han Vintage thread at that otheR Site recently, and I guess it's spiraling out of control as people are not reading stories, or not reading them correctly, between three separate sites.   ::)

Apparantly there's some confusion, despite it being stated quite clearly in our reports from Toy Fair this year, over the Hoth Han coming with 2 heads...  Someone may want to let them know to read the story before jumping to conclusions.

As stated on the front page here, the Hoth Han may, or may not come with 2 heads, that's completely unknown, but the 2nd head that was displayed with Han (that our staffers got photos of) was REMOVED by Darryl DePriest due to the head not being yet approved by Lucasfilm, and he said it was not to be out yet.  We just got the photos of it as it hadn't been removed yet and we were the only site photographing that area at that time.

So far, my roughest of guesses, I'd assume it's NOT coming with Han in the vintage assortment this year...  A unique release some time down the road?  It could be a running change...  Anything really.  Either way you slice it though, the head was NOT LFL approved, and nobody right now knows if it's coming or not in the line, we just know it got pulled from the showroom floor.

Where's the 3rd site tie-in to this mass of confusion?  Apparantly reading an article at GH that Pawlus wrote, everyone seemingly misread what he wrote since when I read the article Adam just noted that the figure doesn't have a "flip-up hood" feature....  And Adam's basing his thoughts/opinions on not seeing a second sculpted head at the time he wrote it I assume... 

It's amazing how people are just making **** up, or just looking at photos and not reading, and then you have a thread of speculating and debating that's causing other people to just get confused on the matter.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on February 13, 2007, 09:41 AM
Here is a bit more of a detail on that...I am downloading the pics from my personal camera right now...up till now all the photos we've seen here at JD are from Rob.  He is an awesome photographer and a bit of a perfectionist in that regard....

As I was looking, my very first picture is of Han Hoth (my favorite figure)...the first 3 I have of him are with the hood....by the time I finished shooting the Vintage line for a group shot, the hood was gone since it was during this shooting that we encountered D. Depriest and he gave us the info/shagged the head.

To clear up some other confusion I have seen around the web....the goggles did not look removable.  They may have been glued down or something, but did not at the time look like they could be moved from the down or up position.  We will see if my pictures (although fuzzy) can lend some clarity to the matter.

If somebody else is going to get credit for my reporting, can they also pay my hotel bill here in NY?  Seems fair right?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 13, 2007, 09:47 AM

Apparantly there's some confusion, despite it being stated quite clearly in our reports from Toy Fair this year, over the Hoth Han coming with 2 heads...  Someone may want to let them know to read the story before jumping to conclusions.

Where's the 3rd site tie-in to this mass of confusion?  Apparantly reading an article at GH that Pawlus wrote, everyone seemingly misread what he wrote since when I read the article Adam just noted that the figure doesn't have a "flip-up hood" feature....  And Adam's basing his thoughts/opinions on not seeing a second sculpted head at the time he wrote it I assume... 

It's amazing how people are just making **** up, or just looking at photos and not reading, and then you have a thread of speculating and debating that's causing other people to just get confused on the matter.

Sounds like a conspiracy to me. :-X

Yeah, I've noticed the same thing. It's just parr for the course when you have the younger crowd who not used to fact checking or research yet.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on February 13, 2007, 11:35 AM
There shouldn't be any confusion here... it's very very simple - extra hood-up head, maybe, if approval is granted in time.  If not, no extra hood-up head.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 13, 2007, 03:04 PM
It just CANNOT come out missing that extra head now...  I rather that head almost!  And what the hell does LFL have to approve anyway?! ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 13, 2007, 05:50 PM
It just CANNOT come out missing that extra head now...  I rather that head almost!  And what the hell does LFL have to approve anyway?! ::)

They're a little miffed that the coat is brown, so they won't approve the hood unless it's blue.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 13, 2007, 10:48 PM
It just CANNOT come out missing that extra head now...  I rather that head almost!  And what the hell does LFL have to approve anyway?! ::)

They're a little miffed that the coat is brown, so they won't approve the hood unless it's blue.

Now that was damn funny.  :D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 14, 2007, 09:45 AM
Someone told me something funny about the Hoth Han Vintage thread at that otheR Site recently, and I guess it's spiraling out of control as people are not reading stories, or not reading them correctly, between three separate sites.   ::)

Apparantly there's some confusion, despite it being stated quite clearly in our reports from Toy Fair this year, over the Hoth Han coming with 2 heads...  Someone may want to let them know to read the story before jumping to conclusions.

As stated on the front page here, the Hoth Han may, or may not come with 2 heads, that's completely unknown, but the 2nd head that was displayed with Han (that our staffers got photos of) was REMOVED by Darryl DePriest due to the head not being yet approved by Lucasfilm, and he said it was not to be out yet.  We just got the photos of it as it hadn't been removed yet and we were the only site photographing that area at that time.

So far, my roughest of guesses, I'd assume it's NOT coming with Han in the vintage assortment this year...  A unique release some time down the road?  It could be a running change...  Anything really.  Either way you slice it though, the head was NOT LFL approved, and nobody right now knows if it's coming or not in the line, we just know it got pulled from the showroom floor.

Where's the 3rd site tie-in to this mass of confusion?  Apparantly reading an article at GH that Pawlus wrote, everyone seemingly misread what he wrote since when I read the article Adam just noted that the figure doesn't have a "flip-up hood" feature....  And Adam's basing his thoughts/opinions on not seeing a second sculpted head at the time he wrote it I assume... 

It's amazing how people are just making **** up, or just looking at photos and not reading, and then you have a thread of speculating and debating that's causing other people to just get confused on the matter.


Okay, I gotta raise my hand here and take some responsibility for this. I had misread JD's report and started spreading erroneous information about the Han coming with two heads. :-[ I did set the record straight though.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 15, 2007, 03:59 AM
Nah it wasn't your fault Anton...  There was a lot of rampant "Oh man it comes with 2 heads" stuff long before you said anything.  I think you fell into the trap laid by others, haha.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 15, 2007, 08:29 AM
Mmmm Anton I don't think that technically qualifies as the apology that you owe all of us.  I think I speak for everyone when I say that we went through hours of anxiety, heartache, agony and torment because of your actions.

Saying you're taking "some of the responsibility" isn't really going to satiate the bloodthirst that most of us have for revenge at this time.  You're going to have to say "I'm sorry."

Oh, and PM those of us who you caused the most distress and misery for our shipping addresses so you can compensate us with a free set of 30 AC Vintage, including as many variants of Han Hoth that are released.  Blue.  Brown.  Hood up.  Hood down.  Silly goggle hat of no apparent film origin.  All of 'em.

It's only then we'll find it in our heavy hearts to forgive you.

 :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 15, 2007, 09:28 AM
I'm sorry, I was wrong, It'll never happen again...

 ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 15, 2007, 10:53 AM
Dressel, I don't think that will be enough.  I think Anton will have to physically sculpt the hood-up version, mass produce it, and send it out free to everyone that actually looked at the pic.  :P :P :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2007, 03:29 AM
Anton's every 11 year old's scapegoat.   :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 16, 2007, 09:31 AM
So.... how 'bout those vintage figures?  ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 17, 2007, 01:23 AM
They're spiffy man...  spiffy.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dan on February 17, 2007, 07:45 AM
All this anxiety over a little head- you'd think there was a president involved!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 17, 2007, 11:15 AM
I'm going to look at the pics again- these are just stellar.  I'm sure the Bossk will pegwarm like Greedo did, but I can't wait to get one anyway.  I HOPE next year Ponda Baba is one of the choices; he's also just a single purchase rather than a multiple army builder purchase, but the nostalgia factor alone makes this a must!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on February 17, 2007, 11:47 AM
I think he's a lock.  Aside from the Jawa, I don't see them doing much less from SW in the VOTC style.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 23, 2007, 01:32 AM
I got a nice email from John Dunivant the other day...  Almost missed it, as it went to my SPAM but I saved it.

He photoshopped our exclusive story on the 2nd Hoth Han Solo headsculpt so it was on the Hoth Han Solo body.  He also moved the goggles around as he felt they looked removable, which there is something about them that looks removable.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-07/tn_hothhan_MOCKUP.jpg.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-06/VintageHothHanMock-Up.jpg)
Clicky to check it out.

Very cool looking though...  I really do hope we get BOTH headsculpts with Han.  That's somewhat asking a bit but for $10 I think they have room to work in this line.  The price is high no matter how great the figures are.  2nd headsculpts though, that kicks butt.

Keep in mind this photo is DOCTORED, and not real...  It's just meant to show you what the 2nd headsculpt would look like on the figure.  Very cool indeed.  There will be the inevitable "wow there's a second head coming!?" posts I'm sure but I think I covered that this isn't an official photo and the head's still not known to be packed with the figure or not...  It's just cool to speculate, and thanks to John for the fine photoshopping he did. :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: evenflow on February 23, 2007, 08:12 AM
That hood sculpt looks awesome, i really hope they include both. It would be a great if they included both but i think if it gets approved maybe it will be a running change.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 23, 2007, 10:04 AM
I think they can do it.  Dagobah Luke had one at a lower price point in the OTC line.  Would be nice if they did. 

Of course the question being begged to be asked is whether they'll do the blue jacket version AND the blue jacket with a second head sculpt.  I really do smell a chase figure on the blue jacket. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on February 23, 2007, 02:37 PM
I think they can do it, too.  Especially at $10 a pop, there's no real excuse not to.  And it looks great.  Excellent photoshopping.   :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on February 23, 2007, 03:14 PM
I love that look.

And here's why...when I got my first Hoth Han "back in the day" that is what he looked like. (except of course the more stylish Blue Coat).

I would almost prefer this as the primary head and the hood down cap off version as the secondary.  Just out of homage to the Vintage days and also so he would match his Cardback...but that is just me...and I collect loose figures so he would only be on his card from the peg to the car....

This  and Snowtrooper are going to be 2 of my top 5 figures this year (at least in anticipation factor)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on February 23, 2007, 09:51 PM
I really hope it gets a green light. That's an awesome sculpt. But I also want a good non-hood Hoth Han too.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth Broem on February 23, 2007, 11:50 PM
I am all about the hooded version.  That appeals to me the very most.  However, yes it would be nice to have the non-headed version as well.  I am sure Hasbro will either have 2 heads or a variant as somepoint.  They are keen to us diehards on the whole blue/brown coat debate and now this I am sure. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 24, 2007, 01:18 AM
If both heads are released, I've got good incentive to buy multiples...  I'd love Han displayed with both heads on my shelf for sure.  One to stand with Riekean and the tactical board, one to stand with my Hoth Chewie...  Maybe a third with the helmet on to put around the "Hangar" figures like power droid and hoth pilot figures.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 24, 2007, 11:45 AM
I just have to say that the photoshop work is impeccable.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 24, 2007, 04:02 PM
However, yes it would be nice to have the non-headed version as well. 

(http://www.gregandsons.com/images/Aurora/HeadlessHorseman.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth Broem on February 25, 2007, 11:32 AM
Oooops!  I meant the non-hooded version.  LOL! 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 16, 2007, 07:36 PM
The latest Hasbro QnA has been posted (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1174087119,84197,) and since it is chock full o'tidbits regarding the Vintage figures, I thought I'd repost here as well...

- no blue coat V30AC Hoth Han this time around
- LFL squashed the extra "Hood Up" head for now :(
- Figures will be coming in June 2007
- production size is more in line with 2004 Vintage figures, not 2006 Vintage figures (aka you should see less pegwarming on these)

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on March 16, 2007, 08:27 PM
No blue coat sucks (but they'll do him later apparently - like when they repack him for less money) and the no hood is disappointing.  The figure works without it, but I hope they revisit this in the future.  Why wouldn't LF approve it?  Weird.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Diddly on March 16, 2007, 10:30 PM
The news about the hood is disappointing, but what I'm more scared about is the availability of the new figures. I saw an abundance of ANH figs and ESB Lando and C-3PO, but I never saw any of the other figures at retail and had to order everything online. Hopefully I'll be able to find them in stores this time.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on March 16, 2007, 10:31 PM
No hood=travesty.

I knew I should have tried to buy it from D. DePriest when we were there.....

 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 17, 2007, 02:01 AM
I HATE that Hasbro mentioned production numbers. It only puts everyone in an unneeded panic.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: evenflow on March 17, 2007, 09:15 AM
If its true, its good to know. If they are doing it to just drive sales then it works on their side too. Either way it doesn't really hurt to know. I know scalpers do read these but i still think knowing is better.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 17, 2007, 10:49 AM
The VTSC was way easier to find in any quantity I wanted it than the VOTC.  I guess Hasbro is reverting back to the VOTC numbers now.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on March 17, 2007, 11:12 AM
WOW- what a bummer! I really wanted that hoodhead-and that blue coat variation (because everyone knows it was blue).

And I also hate how they mentioned production numbers

Easy to find? Easy to find you say? JD, not easy to find they will be. The shroud of the scalpers has fallen...begun, the VTAC Wars have...
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: P-Siddy on March 17, 2007, 02:06 PM
The VTSC was way easier to find in any quantity I wanted it than the VOTC.  I guess Hasbro is reverting back to the VOTC numbers now.

Well, since they were UGH, they should have been. And since these TAC ones would be, too... I guess I don't try to second guess Big H's rationale.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on March 17, 2007, 02:50 PM
Let's see what the case will be now:
x 2 Hoth Han
x 4 Bossk
x 1 IG-88
x 3 Leia
x 2 Luke
x 1/2 Snowtrooper- You but the Head & Torso & get the rest of the body by sending 80,000 UPCs!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on March 18, 2007, 11:34 PM
I can still find every single VTSC figure in multiple at the local Wally World :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on March 19, 2007, 12:33 AM
I can at KB. Wow, I must have the only good Wal-Mart. VTSC has been gone since September.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Nicklab on March 19, 2007, 10:31 PM
Let's see what the case will be now:
x 2 Hoth Han
x 4 Bossk
x 1 IG-88
x 3 Leia
x 2 Luke
x 1/2 Snowtrooper- You but the Head & Torso & get the rest of the body by sending 80,000 UPCs!

Come on, let's be realistic here.  IIRC, the Vintage cases have packed out at 10 figures per case.  With that number in mind, I think we're likely to see the following case assortment:

2 x Snowtrooper
2 x Luke Skywalker
2 x Han Solo
2 x IG-88
1 x Bossk
1 x Leia

However, I wouldn't put it past them to go to a 12 figure case, and include 2 of each character for an even case pack.  But the problem is going to lie with the army builders.  The army builders are going to buy multiples of the Snowtrooper and however many of the other characters.  But they're going to continue to buy Snowtroopers and that's going to leave the other characters behind.  So there will be a perception that some of the VTAC figures may be pegwarmers, but in reality it's going to be a case of army builders gobbling up the Snowtroopers.  That's what happened this past year with the Scout Troopers.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 19, 2007, 11:11 PM
I recall Hasbro mentioning how they are aware that they messed up on the Scout trooper, so I suspect that they would mention that unless they intended to correct the problem. That said, my bet is still a 10 figure case with 2 snowtroopers in every revision case.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Scott on March 19, 2007, 11:18 PM
How about 2 per case!

EE Preorder! (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS87295A)

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/HS87295Alg.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 19, 2007, 11:23 PM
Look at that. :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 20, 2007, 12:28 AM
It would be nice to see more than 2 Snowtroopers per case, but which figure to decrease to 1 per case?  Tough call.

And I know Hasbro said they were working on fixing the Snowtrooper's kama/skirt, but he's still got that bizarre shape in the front.  I'm getting nervous they haven't fixed it.  I guess my expectations are VERY high for this figure because he's my favourite Imperial soldier.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2007, 12:58 AM
Time to order a case is coming 'round the corner.

I think that's still all proto shots Jesse so I'm not worried about the skirt.  I'd say Bossk is the guy that should've gotten limited to 1x, but then he'd be the pain to find, you know it, so I dunno.  2 each is ideal I guess and just assume the Snowie gets out again sometime in the future.  It's likely I think.  Hell the Scout found his way back out twice in less than a year, albeit different looks of course, but still...  I think Hasbro will re-release this guy...  I hope.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: evenflow on March 20, 2007, 08:22 AM
Has Hasbro commented on the mailaway yet? Will it be UPC or little stickers like last year? Heat sealed packages?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on March 20, 2007, 11:13 AM
It would be nice to see more than 2 Snowtroopers per case, but which figure to decrease to 1 per case?  Tough call.
I say it's gonna have to be Han or Bossk. Han pegwarmed the most last year & Bossk has 'Greedo' written all over him.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2007, 02:23 PM
How about 2 per case!

EE Preorder! (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS87295A)

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/HS87295Alg.jpg)

I was looking forward to these figures, because uber-versions of snowtrooper, bespin luke, leia endor, and hoth han sounded great. Now that I see the picture, I think it is another clever ploy by the big H to cross-market: It appears all of the figures are designed with crotches/legs built to ride on My Little Pony toys, even IG-88  :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2007, 02:34 PM
I am very happy they went with a nice 2x per figure case.  I feel the pain of those wanting more Snowtroopers in the box, but I'm glad they did it this way. 

It makes it nice and easy for me and the rest of the "one to open, one to keep carded" collectors.  Now when NewForce puts these up for pre-order, I can just grab myself a case and be done with it.   :)

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on March 20, 2007, 02:37 PM
It's what I was hoping for, so I'm definitely ordering a case.  I hope that Snowtrooper isn't the final, or else I am taking my scissors to it.  Good lord, that looks bad.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2007, 03:42 PM
Has Hasbro commented on the mailaway yet? Will it be UPC or little stickers like last year? Heat sealed packages?

From EE:

But wait, there's more! On every Vintage figure's package is the Ultimate Galactic Hunt 2007, a special mail-in offer! Pick up all the figures, and you can send off for a 7-coin set featuring coins for each of these six figures, plus a special bonus coin which was originally given away at Toy Fair 2007 in New York! Your collection of coins won't be complete unless you take advantage of this limited-time mail-in offer.

To get your set, collect and save the proof-of-purchase stickers from 6 vintage figure packages. Attach the stickers to the spaces on the front side of the mail-in certificate found inside the Vintage action figure packages. (You can have any combination of 6 stickers!)  Clearly print your name and address in the space provided.  Mail the completed certificate (name and address clearly printed, all 6 stickers attached) and a check or money order for $4.95 (made out to Vintage Figure Redemption) to:

Vintage Figure Redemption Request
PO Box 10790
Bozeman MT 59719-0790

All requests must be postmarked by February 29, 2008.

Your exclusive 2007 Vintage Figure Coin Box will be mailed to you within 6-8 weeks from receipt of your redemption request.

This offer is good for a limited time only and while supplies last. Official Redemption Certificates must be postmarked by February 29, 2008. Incomplete entries (missing the Official Redemption Certificate, one or more proof-of-purchase stickers, and/or payment) will not be honored. No copies, duplicates or other reproductions will be accepted. HASBRO reserves the right to verify all redemptions and reject any insufficient redemption at its sole discretion. Offer valid for redemption by end users only; excludes resellers and distributors. Offer valid in U.S. only for fulfillment at U.S. addresses. No P.O. boxes will be accepted.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2007, 03:54 PM
I personally think that just two Snowtroopers per case is a bad move.  Grrr... I think their "redemptions" hurt them in the long run by over-producing the other figures like Leia, while the number of Snowtroopers made is going to not meet demand.  Maybe it's just because my focus on collecting is only to make dioramas, and to do that I need more army builders, not coins. 

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 20, 2007, 04:00 PM
There's always a chance they'll release an updated case with more Snowtroopers.  Maybe not, but it's possible.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2007, 04:04 PM
It would be nice for sure Jesse.  I hope they do...

I think they should also go ahead and repack VOTC Stormtroopers into the shipments, with ANH cards too.  I know that we're already getting more Stormtroopers this year (and actually I like the Tantive IV Battlepack Stormie more) but I think that they would sell pretty good.  Though I could see some people getting pretty mad if they did that.

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on March 20, 2007, 04:55 PM
Why???
Hasbro could replace one of the warmers with a stormie.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2007, 05:13 PM
I think they should also go ahead and repack VOTC Stormtroopers into the shipments, with ANH cards too. 

Not sure I follow the logic on that one...

  $7 - 30AC #20 Stormtrooper (VOTC mold w/removable helmet)
$11 - VOTC Stormtrooper re-release

IMHO, it seems like a bad idea to re-release the VOTC carded version when there will be an arguably better, cheaper version of the same figure sculpt already on the pegs at the same time. 

Folks can't be that upset over the removable helmet that they'd want to waste $4 buying the VOTC version and skipping the 30AC version... then again I've seen stranger things happen.   ;)

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on March 20, 2007, 05:29 PM
Why???
Hasbro could replace one of the warmers with a stormie.

But in all actuallity they would replace a Snow Trooper with a Stormie...

They could put the Stormtrooper on an Empire Card this time around to keep with the theme.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on March 20, 2007, 05:50 PM
Yeah, that makes sense to not want it now.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth Depressis on March 20, 2007, 09:30 PM
so whats the big mail in figure gonna be this time?

and whats going on with the snowtrooper? their not gonna release him and put a stormtrooper in his place? i agree thats a sad example of a snowtrooper but come on! a straight repack in the ten dollar plus vintage line how pathetic are things gonna get before 2019.

aside from that i personally cannot wait for the bespin Luke, endor Leia and ig-88. those are just as great as the first wave from '04.

{did some rereading of previous posts}

that is retarded! but very funny, i thought i was clever to wait and buy the whole group for less than 25 total back in mid-'05 on mark down at wal-mart. but wow, a 12.99 repack that i paid a straight bucks for two years ago or a better version with a removable helmet for barely eight bucks..lol who does the numbers at hasbro? or hell at least the thinking...

on a side note how much are they gonna make us pay for a quality DS2 Luke when they decide to dump one out on the market?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jayson on March 20, 2007, 09:34 PM
so whats the big mail in figure gonna be this time?

No figure, just coins.

from EntertainmentEarth.com

On every Vintage figure's package is the Ultimate Galactic Hunt 2007, a special mail-in offer! Pick up all the figures, and you can send off for a 7-coin set featuring coins for each of these six figures, plus a special bonus coin which was originally given away at Toy Fair 2007 in New York! Your collection of coins won't be complete unless you take advantage of this limited-time mail-in offer.

To get your set, collect and save the proof-of-purchase stickers from 6 vintage figure packages.
Attach the stickers to the spaces on the front side of the mail-in certificate found inside the Vintage action figure packages. (You can have any combination of 6 stickers!)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2007, 09:37 PM
Yup, Hasbro said coins are the thing in 2007...  which is cool I guess.  I'd dig a figure that was something everyone would be happy to get mailed to them (IE: Not Lucas's head on anything).  Coins are cooler than the Lucas Trooper to me though.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2007, 10:04 PM
I think they should also go ahead and repack VOTC Stormtroopers into the shipments, with ANH cards too. 

Not sure I follow the logic on that one...

  $7 - 30AC #20 Stormtrooper (VOTC mold w/removable helmet)
$11 - VOTC Stormtrooper re-release

IMHO, it seems like a bad idea to re-release the VOTC carded version when there will be an arguably better, cheaper version of the same figure sculpt already on the pegs at the same time. 

Folks can't be that upset over the removable helmet that they'd want to waste $4 buying the VOTC version and skipping the 30AC version... then again I've seen stranger things happen.   ;)



Actually I can't stand the looks of the removable helmet.  It looks... "poofy" to me.  I'll still get some I'm sure, and hope they look good in person.  Right now my favorite Stormtrooper is the Battle Pack version by far.  Maybe it's the "newness" of it all, but I'm temped to part with my entire VOTC army now.

Anyways, I think that $10 or so range for a figure is ridiculous, and but think that a Stormtrooper would outsell Leia and company any day of the week.  Seen it happen many times... and have thought that when last year when most of the VSTC figures were always warming pegs that had they had VOTC Stormies on the pegs again, I would have bought them... Just from a business standpoint I think it makes sense. 

But don't get me wrong, I'm all for cheaper figures Jeff.  And I know you are too!   8)

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 24, 2007, 01:21 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-07/VintageHanHoth.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-07/VintageLeiaEndor.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-07/VintageLukeBespin.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-07/VintageSnowtrooper.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-07/VintageIG88.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-07/VintageBossk.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 24, 2007, 01:43 AM
Nice and crisp.

I have a feeling that I'm not going to have the hat on Han very much. Also, the more I look at that Snowtrooper, the less the skirt is bothering me. Don't get me wrong, I'd still like to see it fixed, but having the pouches on the outside goes a long way.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 24, 2007, 02:22 AM
I'm surprised to see them labelled as The Saga Collection since we're into The 30th Anniversary Collection Now.  However, maybe they decided the styling of the TSC logo fit better with the vintage card, which is a reasonable decision.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on March 24, 2007, 10:28 AM
Also, the more I look at that Snowtrooper, the less the skirt is bothering me.

And the more I look at Han, the more that hat (and not having a blue-coat variation) is bothering me.

Also, I'm a little worried about Luke's face, it seems pretty ugly from those pics.

Leia looks better than ever, I'm sure I'm getting a couple of her.

IG-88 is super, best one of this vintage wave by far.

Bossk looks great too.

Snowtrooper...not so much. The awful skirt is just too much, I actually would rather have had it made in plastic.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on March 24, 2007, 02:37 PM
The hat on Han is goofy.  The Snowtrooper skirt is goofy.  The font on the character names on the cards seems off - a little big compared to the actual vintage cards, but otherwise, these are excellent.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Reid on March 24, 2007, 04:25 PM
Might get Leia. Not sure.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: P-Siddy on March 24, 2007, 06:01 PM
So far only half the wave looks good to me, the BHs, and the trooper. Han might depend on the in-store look over.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 24, 2007, 06:30 PM
The hat on Han may be another case of Hasbro doing a poor job of presentation.  The hat probably fits much lower on his face, but they may just have it sitting higher so you can see more of his face (specifically his eyes).  I imagine once the hat is pulled down tighter it will look a lot better.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Nicklab on March 24, 2007, 07:52 PM
There's a very similar hat that came with the POTJ "Snowbi-Wan" Kenobi back in the day.  That one sat pretty well on his head as I recall.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on March 25, 2007, 12:30 AM
These are the same figures we saw at Toy Fair...identical.

I am going to make the not so bold prediction that the final product will not look like this.

Bespin Luke's face looks tons better in person.

I noticed the "Saga" label at Toy Fair, but did not ask about whether it was mock up packaging or not.  I would wager it is. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: iFett on March 25, 2007, 03:19 AM
I'm still kinda pissed that these didn't come on the POTF cards with the coins included.  This should have been a no brainer on Hasbro's part - especially with the TAC cards.  I think it's BS that I have to violate 6 of these things to get 7 pieces of worthless "metal" coins.

....Just bitching from a carded collector's POV....... :-\
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: MetalJedi on March 25, 2007, 02:16 PM
Or you could find someone who opens and doesn't want the coins.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on March 25, 2007, 03:13 PM
I'm still kinda pissed that these didn't come on the POTF cards with the coins included.  This should have been a no brainer on Hasbro's part

Agreed.  This would have been the perfect year to do it--but they would have had to go with different figures to do so.  Out of these, only Leia Poncho was officially released on the POTF cardback.  However, there were POTF proof cards made for four of the remaining five (Han Hoth being the sole exception).
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 25, 2007, 03:14 PM
These are the same figures we saw at Toy Fair...identical.

I am going to make the not so bold prediction that the final product will not look like this.

 

That's what I thought and hope as well. Also thinking that the stickers (saying Saga collection) might not be final.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: evenflow on March 26, 2007, 09:55 AM
I'm still kinda pissed that these didn't come on the POTF cards with the coins included.  This should have been a no brainer on Hasbro's part

Agreed.  This would have been the perfect year to do it--but they would have had to go with different figures to do so.  Out of these, only Leia Poncho was officially released on the POTF cardback.  However, there were POTF proof cards made for four of the remaining five (Han Hoth being the sole exception).

I have to agree as well. They are doing the coins anyway, should have went with POTF cards.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 26, 2007, 11:11 PM
NFC just put these up for pre-order, $109.99 for a case of 12, plus $9.95 shipping.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 26, 2007, 11:50 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Anton.

2x each of the 6 figures, delivered to my door for $10 each.   :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Since1978 on March 27, 2007, 03:18 PM
:o  :o  :o

A Hoth Han that doesn't suck?  (waits for other shoe to drop).  I'm in shock about this.  I really thought they'd just put out a Bespin Han that was last year's Endor Han with a new cloth jacket.  Amazing.


God I hope they don't do a cloth jacket - they need to do it with painted arms and the rubberized "vest" portion so that it looks normal - like what they just did with ceremony Luke...  Softgoods are O.K. for capes, robes, etc. but when it's something as form-fitting as a jacket, definitely NOT!

'78
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: tonphanan on March 27, 2007, 09:29 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I have cleared off a shelf for the Snowtrooper, they will all be mine. I will build a Grand Army of the Tonphanan shelf and it will dominate the room and rule the complex.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on March 27, 2007, 09:56 PM
Thanks from me too on that heads up Anton.  Got my case ordered.  Then it's just a matter of tracking down extras and hopefully finding people who only want the coin mail-in too for some cheaper sets of fodder/army builders.

Fortunately this go-round is only ONE I want a lot of, the Snowtrooper.  Last year I kept wanting more Tuskens but didn't want to shell out the cash while I was buying Scouts.  This year I'll be content with a few of each figure and lots of Snowies.

Good case all around.  I even like Han despite the lack of a hooded head.  I kind of prefer the head we're getting actually but a 2nd head at some point would be nice.  I just hope they don't put out Hoth Han with hood up in blue only and not Brown.  I could easily see that happening though despite accuracy.  As a nostalgia factor or whatnot. :(
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on March 28, 2007, 07:01 PM
Thanks for the tip.  Ordered my case.   :)

I'll be picking up extras too, especially of the Snowtrooper.  It will be bloody.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Ice on March 28, 2007, 08:27 PM
what is NFC?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on March 28, 2007, 08:33 PM
New Force Comics (http://www.newforcecomics.com/)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on March 28, 2007, 08:43 PM
RS has a pic of the vintage coin collection display case, which will hold all 6 VTAC coins.

New Vintage Figure Ad Reveals UGH Folder (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/vtsc_ad-Mar2007.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Ice on March 28, 2007, 09:11 PM
thanks for the tip dudes, just bought mine
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on March 28, 2007, 09:39 PM
RS has a pic of the vintage coin collection display case, which will hold all 6 VTAC coins.

New Vintage Figure Ad Reveals UGH Folder (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/vtsc_ad-Mar2007.jpg)

I saw that today too, and I'm excited about that one!  I'm not getting the regular coin album since I don't buy prequel figures, but this one is perfect since it's only OT and made only for vintage.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jim on March 28, 2007, 09:57 PM
Anyone else notice that the offer for the exclusive coins allow any six POP, versus the one of every figure like last time. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on March 28, 2007, 10:23 PM
maybe they already know that the Snowtrooper will be army built and don't want people to go through the same **** they went through last year. kinda makes me wonder..sometimes hasbro does think ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: iFett on March 28, 2007, 11:01 PM
Confusion sets in....I thought that if you mailed in 6 POP's - that you'd get 6 of the "vintage" coins plus the Toyfare coin.  Looks like this new set includes its own mini album....Ugh...I wish I was a loose collector at times........
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 29, 2007, 02:36 AM
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New Vintage Figure Ad Reveals UGH Folder (http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/vtsc_ad-Mar2007.jpg)

That coin set displayed in it's folder looks pretty good.  I'm planning on buying a set loose and another to open anyway, so a sharp looking freebie works for me.

But again, they're showing the Snowtrooper with his frickin' skirt unfixed.  Dammit Hasbro, you said you were going to correct that -- look at the picture of the character on the bloody card you're selling the figure with!  ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: evenflow on March 29, 2007, 10:10 AM
The little coin album looks great, nice mailaway
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on March 29, 2007, 11:11 AM
As many Snowtroopers as I plan to get, I should have several extra sets if anybody needs them.

I'm am looking forward to getting that Han in hand so I can see if I can fix that hat to look right.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: evenflow on March 29, 2007, 03:48 PM
As many Snowtroopers as I plan to get, I should have several extra sets if anybody needs them.

I may just take you up on that.  ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on March 29, 2007, 07:35 PM
I'm actually quite surprised that the Endor Leia is loosing by so far in the JD poll.
My order would actually be:

IG-88
Endor Leia
Bossk
Hoth Han
Bespin Luke
Snowtrooper.

Endor Leia looks great, shes certainly better than that attrocious snowtrooper, thats for sure.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 29, 2007, 08:10 PM

Endor Leia looks great, shes certainly better than that attrocious snowtrooper, thats for sure.

Of course!

(http://mandatemedia.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/twilightzone.gif)

Watch any marathons lately?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on March 31, 2007, 12:48 PM
Har har. Leia rocks, snowtrooper sucks. And now I'm done.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on March 31, 2007, 12:55 PM
So, we get another coin case? I thought we put these coins in the regular coin cases.

My favorite list goes as this:
IG-88
Hoth Han Solo
Snowtrooper
Bossk
Bespin Luke Skywalker
Endor Leia Organa
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on March 31, 2007, 01:02 PM
I respect everyone's opinion but what is wrong with the Endor Leia?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2007, 02:41 PM
I like Leia...  I think her knees look funny, but she still looks pretty good. 

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0069.jpg)

Of course, Han is still my favorite of the bunch.   :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 31, 2007, 02:48 PM
If you don't mind that it doesn't look a bit like Carrie Fisher, this figure is for you.

(http://www.jeffcohost.com/~tk409/c3po/ROTJ/c3po-leia-endor.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on March 31, 2007, 02:52 PM


(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2007/Hasbro/TF_2007_Hasbro_0069.jpg)



Wow, thanks for the great pic, Jeff.

She looks more like Carrie Fisher than any other Leia fig to date and even has the accurate sporting blaster or whatever its called. Now I like this fig even more!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on March 31, 2007, 08:04 PM
ill pick her up from the clearance bin.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: AmanaMatt on March 31, 2007, 08:56 PM
ill pick her up from the clearance bin.

Of all the Vintage 'VTAC,' this is the only one I think of like that. The rest of them will be bought the instant I see them! I am still amazed at the level of detail with these, especially Ig-88 and Bossk.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on April 1, 2007, 10:12 PM
ill pick her up from the clearance bin.

Of all the Vintage 'VTAC,' this is the only one I think of like that. The rest of them will be bought the instant I see them! I am still amazed at the level of detail with these, especially Ig-88 and Bossk.

Why do you think that? It's a super figure. It's a much-needed update, a decent likeness, great accessories, superior articulation and on a vintage repro card from the final 17 (i think), what could possibly be wrong with it? I just want to know.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on April 1, 2007, 10:19 PM
ill pick her up from the clearance bin.

Of all the Vintage 'VTAC,' this is the only one I think of like that. The rest of them will be bought the instant I see them! I am still amazed at the level of detail with these, especially Ig-88 and Bossk.

Why do you think that? It's a super figure. It's a much-needed update, a decent likeness, great accessories, superior articulation and on a vintage repro card from the final 17 (i think), what could possibly be wrong with it? I just want to know.

how do you know it has "superior articualtion" if all the pics we have seen have been with the poncho on? " i just want to know."

the ankles are painted differently from the boots. the face looks othing like her. the knees look horrible.and if it is the same ponch as lukes it will be annoying. just because we needed a new one doesnt mean this one is amazing. if it has to do with accessories and likeness i think IG-88 beats out anyone in this line. even bossk looks better(of course that is my biased opinion on one of my favored characters :) )

and what does the card have to do with anything? if you open the figure it is just trash.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Matt on April 1, 2007, 10:38 PM
even bossk looks better(of course that is my biased opinion on one of my favored characters :) )

I think you mean "Boosk."
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Vator on April 1, 2007, 10:47 PM
So, I suppose the Snowtrooper's skirt isn't going to be corrected. Alas, I shall have to alter damn near 80 of them!  :P

Really, though, I have to wonder why Hasbro neglected to fix that skirt ... It's just somewhat annoying to have something as trival as the skirt detract from an otherwise flawless figure. Bah! At least the material is more sensible now.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 2, 2007, 01:38 AM
Hasbro said at Toy Fair to our crew that it would be...  take that as you will.  I'm not sure but it's not a deal breaker on the Snowtroopers for me, not by a longshot.

Leia...  I dunno, I don't mind her.  i find her likeness, as far as what we've seen, to be passable...  It's safe to assume she's super articulated or darn close under the poncho.  The knees aren't bulky at all so they don't bother me, and are appreciated for what they are.  They seem smooth and flush fitting.  That's good designing on a figure with such thin limbs if you ask me.  I'm pretty happy with all 6 VTAC figures so far, but that's without owning one of course.  Easy to say "hey that looks great" and then change your mind when you buy one and open it.

BTW I count packaging as a plus among these and I'm a loose collector too...  Trash, perhaps, but it's part of these figure's appeal to collect the nostalgic packaging...  And depending on what day you talk to Hasbro it was also part of the reason everything in the "Vintage" assortment costs so much...  Other days it's articulation.  Other days sculpt.  Other days paint...  The only thing it hasn't been is accessories. :P

One day they'll settle on the REAL reason I'm sure.  It's probably just going to be "all of the above reasons are why you pay $10 for these, now shove it".  ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on April 2, 2007, 06:22 AM
even bossk looks better(of course that is my biased opinion on one of my favored characters :) )

I think you mean "Boosk."

oh my bad i meant "boosk"  ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on April 2, 2007, 09:47 PM
I respect everyone's opinion but what is wrong with the Endor Leia?
The wrong color poncho is the biggest for me. I still love all of the figures in this wave though. Best wave of figure all year, IMHO. This Leia is the best Leia so far IMO.

Hasbro siad the Snowtrooper will have a removable helmet. I wonder if that means ball-joint removable or helmet removable. :-\
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 14, 2007, 11:03 AM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/dancziraky/SnowTrooperCloseup_sm.jpg)

I really don't want to complain about the vintage figure I'm most looking forward to, but those non-armored parts of him should be off-white, not baby blue...
(http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/snowtroopers/img/movie_bg.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on April 14, 2007, 11:09 AM
 :o that figure looks really good. im going for atleast 10  :o
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Vator on April 14, 2007, 11:16 AM
Oh ****, is that the figure? Gorram! That thing is above amazing.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on April 14, 2007, 12:28 PM
Notice how they give the best Jango sculpts to the characters who aren't even all Jango.  ::)
Atleast the skirt is fixed. I'm still buying as many as I see.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Famine on April 14, 2007, 12:33 PM
I'm going on record and stating that this could be the best figure Hasbro has produced, to date.

Kevin
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 14, 2007, 04:15 PM
I'm thinking the color of the pic is just the camera/lighting, not the figure...  So I wouldn't worry about it Dago-Bah.  He's looking sharp so far though.  The skirt's new and imrpoved there, the leg pose isn't vaguely as wide as before...  I'm liking it a lot.  Count me in for going into debt in '07. :)

I'm curious though...  Do we now call these Imperial Marines or Snowtroopers? :)  Weird thought is all, I was just thinking about it the other night looking at my little Galactic Marine army.

And kudos to SWCollector for the photo, good for them.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darby on April 14, 2007, 06:10 PM
I only cared that they fixed that skirt piece and they did.  It looks fantastic.  I'll be buying epic amounts of him.   ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 14, 2007, 06:20 PM
I'm going on record and stating that this could be the best figure Hasbro has produced, to date.

Kevin

I'll second that. 

But let's make this part of the record too:


Endor Leia looks great, shes certainly better than that attrocious snowtrooper, thats for sure.

 :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on April 14, 2007, 09:06 PM
Put me down for 30 to 50 of those.

Crap.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Vator on April 14, 2007, 09:38 PM
I'm curious though...  Do we now call these Imperial Marines or Snowtroopers? :)  Weird thought is all, I was just thinking about it the other night looking at my little Galactic Marine army.


I suppose one could. The only time we ever saw them in action was when we know they would have been specifically attatched to the Imperial Navy. The EU is against it, but fanon is more fun anyway.  :P

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: MetalJedi on April 14, 2007, 09:46 PM
It looks ten times better now that they fixed the kama. I'm still getting my amount of 10.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Reid on April 14, 2007, 11:20 PM
Looks nice, but I already have my TSC Snowtrooper. That Endor Leia is awesome though.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jayson on April 14, 2007, 11:39 PM
I'm curious though...  Do we now call these Imperial Marines or Snowtroopers? :)  Weird thought is all, I was just thinking about it the other night looking at my little Galactic Marine army.

Imperial Stormtrooper (in Hoth Battle Gear)  ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 14, 2007, 11:50 PM
Absolutely beautiful.  It's amazing what a difference it makes seeing that kama trimmed as it should be.   8)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: MetalJedi on April 15, 2007, 12:16 AM
That Endor Leia is awesome though.

Eh, the POTF2 Speeder Bike Leia is so much better.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 15, 2007, 09:58 AM
Put me down for 30 to 50 of those.

Crap.

36 - 37 for me.

This looks perfect.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Paul on April 15, 2007, 10:02 AM
I'm curious though...  Do we now call these Imperial Marines or Snowtroopers? :)  Weird thought is all, I was just thinking about it the other night looking at my little Galactic Marine army.

Imperial Stormtrooper (in Hoth Battle Gear)  ;)

Exactly. Don't contaminate the OT with PT naming...

And I don't know what a "Kama" is or if it was broken, but I am glad they fixed the skirt...

Oh and Rob..I see this being just like the Arms Race for VOTC Stormtroopers..the D/FW area is going to have the largest single concentration of these figures in the GALAXY.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: ruiner on April 15, 2007, 10:17 AM

36 - 37 for me.


Don't you mean 36 or 37?

What's in between 36 and 37?

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 15, 2007, 10:24 AM
36.5 for me... :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: P-Siddy on April 15, 2007, 10:54 AM
36.5 for me... :P

Upper or lower half?   :P ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on April 15, 2007, 11:17 AM
36.5 for me... :P

Upper or lower half?   :P ;)

or split right through the center lol
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Nicklab on April 15, 2007, 12:06 PM
Looking pretty sharp.  The coloring does seem a little bit off, but that can be attributed to a number of factors.  I just wish we could get a figure like this in the basic figure line, or at least at that price point.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on April 15, 2007, 12:47 PM
I'm curious though...  Do we now call these Imperial Marines or Snowtroopers? :)  Weird thought is all, I was just thinking about it the other night looking at my little Galactic Marine army.
BF II says the "Imperial Marine" is a trooper that infilitrates head ships in space. But you can't trust alot in BF II. :P

I really hope my super WM gets piled with VTAC like they did VTSC. I passedon about 80 scouts, not going to be that stupid this time.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 15, 2007, 01:43 PM
I really hope my super WM gets piled with VTAC like they did VTSC. I passedon about 80 scouts, not going to be that stupid this time.

I'm pretty sure Hasbro officially said that these are going to be produced more along the numbers of the VOTC, than the latest VTSC.

It would follow then that the availability of the snowtrooper would be more along the lines of the VOTC stormie (not so plentiful), than the VTSC scout (plentiful).

Damn.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on April 15, 2007, 01:58 PM
Pttt... ::)

Looks like I'm going to have to pre-order.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 15, 2007, 02:35 PM

36 - 37 for me.


Don't you mean 36 or 37?

What's in between 36 and 37?





Thirtysix and three quarters.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 15, 2007, 04:50 PM
I don't necessarilly buy into everything Hasbro says though...  I think they feed a line of BS sometimes about their availability of items to help hype them and nothing more.  It's one wave of figures whereas the VOTC were plagued by the first two waves pegwarming and screwing the third wave.  I think these are gonna be fairly easy to find.

That's my opinion anyway...  VOTC wasn't exactly "rare", they just hit roadblocks like Lando and Wave 1 on the pegs.  Depending where you were, Wave 3 was abundant (not my area, but others). 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: David on April 15, 2007, 04:54 PM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/dancziraky/SnowTrooperCloseup_sm.jpg)


My opinion has changed completely. Now I no longer want one or two, I want sixteen.  :o  :o  8)

The skirt looks SOOOOOO much better and the Jango Fett head under the helmet actually looks really good. I'm amazed with how different this figure looks, it's great.  8)

Still not as good as Leia or IG-88, but it's way improved.  ;D  8)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on April 15, 2007, 05:16 PM
I don't know what  I'm more excited about Hoth Han, IG-88, Holiday Fett, SA Jango, Mara Jade or this. Hasbro's been pretty good this year, though we haven't seen the rest of the year's line-up. If it continues this great-ness  it'll make up for POTF2 - Saga 1 in my book.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on April 15, 2007, 05:25 PM
Oh and Rob..I see this being just like the Arms Race for VOTC Stormtroopers..the D/FW area is going to have the largest single concentration of these figures in the GALAXY.

Hopefully the distribution is similar to the last time around.  Stormtroopers were no problem at all to find around here.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 15, 2007, 08:56 PM
I'm thinking the color of the pic is just the camera/lighting, not the figure...  So I wouldn't worry about it Dago-Bah. 

I really hope so, JJ... I'm not at all disappointed, just hoping they get the colors right so that this is THE definitive Snowtrooper.  If he ships with that color, I'm going to say that the VTSC Scout and the VOTC Stormie are for me the #1 and #2 best Hasbro produced figures.  The reason I'm worried that it's not the lighting is because the body suit should be about the color of the belt pouches (as seen in that film pic) or just slightly lighter.  But the pouches are clearly a greyish compared to the bluish of the body suit.  Come to think of it, every Snowtrooper released so far has varied in colors quite a bit.

Edit: as horrid a sculpt the OTC version is, I think the body suit color is spot on:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC/otc0425snowtrooperfront.jpg)

And check out this pic!

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/TSC011snowcomp.jpg)

If worse comes to worst, I'll just repaint the visible portions.  I also plan on cutting the skirt up to belt height rather than leaving it across the crotch like that   ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: AmanaMatt on April 16, 2007, 12:37 AM
As the above pic really shows, this new Snowtrooper is an amazing improvement, 'slight' color issues or not! To me, the new 'Vintage' figure is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2007, 12:39 AM
Quote
just hoping they get the colors right so that this is THE definitive Snowtrooper.

But then they can't release it again in the PROPER color, or something too grey-ish, to profit more. :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Brian on April 16, 2007, 09:08 AM
This figure certainly does look nice, and its amazing what those little changes have done.  I was looking forward to it already, and now even more so.  I hope it isn't too difficult to find - it was kind of both ways around here.  I saw a single VOTC Stormtrooper throughout the entire VOTC run (and bought another online), but I saw the Scouts fairly frequently (although they did sell through pretty well).  I'm hoping I can pick up 4-5 of these Snowtroopers, I'd be happy with that.  It would be nice to build even bigger armies, but I can't afford that.  This looks like another great vintage lineup overall though.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 16, 2007, 12:28 PM
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just hoping they get the colors right so that this is THE definitive Snowtrooper.

But then they can't release it again in the PROPER color, or something too grey-ish, to profit more. :)

And green, and blue, and purple, and red, yellow, orange and black as well, in the true spirit of the clone trooper repaint marathon.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 16, 2007, 02:43 PM
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just hoping they get the colors right so that this is THE definitive Snowtrooper.

But then they can't release it again in the PROPER color, or something too grey-ish, to profit more. :)

And green, and blue, and purple, and red, yellow, orange and black as well, in the true spirit of the clone trooper repaint marathon.

Don't say that!  They can repaint Clones all they want, but don't touch my OT Imperials.  >:(
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Rob on April 17, 2007, 11:30 PM
As the above pic really shows, this new Snowtrooper is an amazing improvement, 'slight' color issues or not! To me, the new 'Vintage' figure is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!

Our arms race just took an interesting turn...

I cover Dallas, Paul covers Grapevine/Fort Worth, and Matt gets everything in Lewisville.

Mutually Assured Destruction.   :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JangoTat on April 18, 2007, 06:41 AM
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just hoping they get the colors right so that this is THE definitive Snowtrooper.

But then they can't release it again in the PROPER color, or something too grey-ish, to profit more. :)

And green, and blue, and purple, and red, yellow, orange and black as well, in the true spirit of the clone trooper repaint marathon.

Don't say that!  They can repaint Clones all they want, but don't touch my OT Imperials.  >:(

that forced unleashed game may actually cause hasbro to repaint stormies with colour ranking. oh you will see.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 18, 2007, 09:32 AM
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just hoping they get the colors right so that this is THE definitive Snowtrooper.

But then they can't release it again in the PROPER color, or something too grey-ish, to profit more. :)

And green, and blue, and purple, and red, yellow, orange and black as well, in the true spirit of the clone trooper repaint marathon.

Don't say that!  They can repaint Clones all they want, but don't touch my OT Imperials.  >:(

that forced unleashed game may actually cause hasbro to repaint stormies with colour ranking. oh you will see.
That'll push me over a line there ain't no coming back from in terms of ending completism.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 18, 2007, 05:05 PM
Not hi-res, but damn I'm lovin' it!

(http://www.r2dtoys.com/productimages/vintagesnowtrooper.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 18, 2007, 05:57 PM
So far everything I've seen of Force Unleashed implies Stormtroopers are 100% OT looking or all new designs/styles that also are just "white".  There's a character model of the Trooper's with pauldrons too, so I'm banking that there will be no color ranking system to the FU Stormtroopers in the game...  Fear not Anthony...  for now.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on April 18, 2007, 06:13 PM
Not sure if you meant figures or the game itself, but it does show yellow color markings on Stormtrooper in the trailer (the trooper on the right in the sequence of three stormies getting zapped by blue lightning) -

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/823/823668/vids_1.html

They also seem to have more clone-type armor, but with Stormie heads. 

But that's an old trailer so maybe things have changed.

 :P



Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 18, 2007, 06:44 PM
Maybe there's varying "levels" spanning different times to bring the two armor styles together more?  I've seen them using OT Stormies in demos of the game's engine.  They're jsut plaine white stormies in those demoes though, not Clones.  Might have something to do with the time spanned or it could just be something used for the demo's and the trailer is how it'll be...

They're definitely not "STormtroopers" in the traditional sense in that trailer though...  very much a mix of clone/stormtroopers, even more than E3's look really.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: Artoo on April 18, 2007, 08:36 PM
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just hoping they get the colors right so that this is THE definitive Snowtrooper.

But then they can't release it again in the PROPER color, or something too grey-ish, to profit more. :)

And green, and blue, and purple, and red, yellow, orange and black as well, in the true spirit of the clone trooper repaint marathon.

Don't say that!  They can repaint Clones all they want, but don't touch my OT Imperials.  >:(
The further we get into EU after ROTS & before ANH. The more colorful Imperials we'll see.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on April 18, 2007, 08:38 PM
Yeah Jesse, they do look more like ROTS clones in the trailer, at least the shape of the armor.  Helmets are totally ANH looking though, right?

I like the variety that the game is apparently going to have with the troopers, with the bulk of them looking more like what we are used to seeing in the OT.

Back on topic though, sorry I've strayed onto other themes lately in a couple threads. 

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Figures Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 19, 2007, 02:49 AM
Not hi-res, but damn I'm lovin' it!

(http://www.r2dtoys.com/productimages/vintagesnowtrooper.jpg)

May can't come soon enough!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jayson on April 19, 2007, 02:55 PM
RS has posted (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/VTAChanhoth2.jpg) hi-rez shots of the Vintage wave and while the Snowtrooper still has the crap skirt and  I’ve just now realized that Han will not be able to sit on a Tauntaun, (maybe in a Vintage one) or run for that matter.

Why articulate anything below the waist (hips, knees and ankles) if you are going to give him a coat that will surely restrict the movement of his thighs?

 :-\

I guess he'll be able to drop to his knees, so I suppose Chewie will be happy.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on April 19, 2007, 07:44 PM
I would rather they articulated it than not...  I'll cut the "skirt" up the sides I think to have him more mobile...  I might even leave Saga 02 Han on the Taun-Taun since he fits there pretty well...  leave the Vinty Han standing around yelling at Leia, Chewie, Deck Officers, treadwell droids...  or whatever.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jayson on April 19, 2007, 08:59 PM
Then I'll see you in HELL!

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on April 19, 2007, 09:23 PM
Then I'll see you in HELL!

I've never had anyone react that way to my articulation arguments.   :-[  ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on April 19, 2007, 09:30 PM
I'll see you both in hell.   8)

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 19, 2007, 09:37 PM
I'll see you both in hell.   8)

 :P

I'll go to hell for a snowtrooper.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Diddly on April 19, 2007, 09:41 PM
That Luke is great, and I'm thinking this may be one of the best Hammil sculpts we've ever gotten. I may get a few just to swap heads with that Ceremony Luke in wave 2.

Also, has anyone asked Hasbro for a shot of Leia without the poncho? I don't think we've gotten any pics of her without it yet, and I'd really like to see what type of articulation she has under there.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jayson on April 19, 2007, 10:26 PM
That Luke is great, and I'm thinking this may be one of the best Hammil sculpts we've ever gotten. I may get a few just to swap heads with that Ceremony Luke in wave 2.

I like that Luke too but it has those weird angular shoulder joints. Oh well, nothing a little Exacto can't fix.

Also, has anyone asked Hasbro for a shot of Leia without the poncho? I don't think we've gotten any pics of her without it yet, and I'd really like to see what type of articulation she has under there.

Perv.  :D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: David on April 21, 2007, 11:26 AM
That Luke is great, and I'm thinking this may be one of the best Hammil sculpts we've ever gotten. I may get a few just to swap heads with that Ceremony Luke in wave 2.

I like that Luke too but it has those weird angular shoulder joints. Oh well, nothing a little Exacto can't fix.


I think Bespin Luke is actually one of the biggest letdowns of the entire year, and here's why. 1) The articulation looks weird, but I GUESS that would have been fine if not for 2) What the hell is wrong with his face? It is innaccurate and ugly beyond description.  :P

In short, this Luke would probably be a complete pass for me, if not for me PROBABLY getting the Case of 12 or 14 or whatever from EE for my graduation present...  8)

If I do get this case which has 2 of each figure in it, that'll probably be enough for me. One of each to tear open, display loose, and mail away for the coins, and one of each to keep carded. I MAY get a couple more snowtroopers if I were to see em at retail though.

...IF I got the case...
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: JangoTat on April 21, 2007, 11:34 AM
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In short, this Luke would probably be a complete pass for me, if not for me PROBABLY getting the Case of 12 or 14 or whatever from EE for my graduation present...

graduating from preschool?  :P

joking. i think the luke looks pretty good though. way better then the older version we got. sculpt doesnt look to bad either. and besides if you really dislike the head just switch it with the pilot one that one looks pretty accurate.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Artoo on April 21, 2007, 11:44 AM
RS has posted (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/VTAChanhoth2.jpg) hi-rez shots of the Vintage wave and while the Snowtrooper still has the crap skirt and  I’ve just nw realized that Han will not be able to sit on a Tauntaun, (maybe in a Vintage one) or run for that matter.
Daigo-bah's ST picture says other wise about the skirt.

I'm probablly gonna order a case from DnStoys.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 21, 2007, 12:50 PM
Yeah, I think the new hi-rez shot is actually an old pic from around Toy Fair time, while the blurry pic is a recent one.  I'm going to carefully cut the skirt up to belt height on each one I get (planning on about 4-5 for a Echo Base interior attack mini-dio, and maybe one more for my AT-AT interior dio).  The Snowtrooper inside the AT-AT cockpit is actually the Officer, not the grunt (has a rank badge on his chest, no pouches on his belt, MAY not have knee pads, and the skirt looks like the original VTAC version; he MAY also have a solid faceplate instead of cloth as this pic is hard to tell:
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p390d071e5f5e3bc40b8c207ed4ad055a/eaeec885.jpg)
Which is ALMOST the version we got here:
(http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC/otc0425snowtrooperfront.jpg)

I may try to convert a VTAC version into an officer.  As for IG-88: LOVE the sculpt except for one thing- the hips are sculpted to give his legs a wide stance.  Gonna have to boil and freeze him to straighten his legs back to the Bounty Hunter scene.
(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/VTACig882.jpg)

Bespin Luke: I don't think it particularly looks like Luke, but then it's not an ugly sculpt or anything.  My only gripe here is that his waist is sculpted just a touch too narrow I think.  You can see in the pic from the carded version that his whole torso is straight up and down rather than tapered to a small waist (although it could be deceptive due to the thicker arms and legs):

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/VTAClukebespin1.jpg)

Han... geez, I wanted that hood-up head SO badly, and I think the cap version looks terrible not to mention I don't recall much film time at all where he wore it like that.  Without the cap will make a nice version when he first arrives at Echo Base in the hangar and argues with Chewie.  I might try to remove the hood-down sculpt piece, and dremel out the Saga head to put on the ball jointed neck for other scenes.
(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/VTAChanhoth2.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Artoo on April 21, 2007, 01:39 PM
Why does Luke have the 90's era action figure dirt speckles on him?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on April 21, 2007, 04:01 PM
I'm pretty content with everything, not that the Hi-Rez photos are much to base that assumption on since they do seem to be "early" versions of the figures that everyone's already cited flaws with... 

The Snowtrooper's my stand-out favorite of the wave I think, mostly due to his army builder status, but add to that the fact this figure's NEVER had a "decent" version made of him.  There's 3 unique Snowtroopers and not one was ever really that great...  That really bumps this figure up in my book.

Han's great to me...  I get the hat's a distraction, but I figure slitting the skirt for some posing isn't out of the question and he is seen around echo base without the hat on...  I dig that.  I figure I'd rather be trying to make a removable hood for him than not for him, but ideally Hasbro would've given us both heads.  Alas that wasn't meant to be.

Luke I like but...  I'm not fond of the expression.  I can deal with the waist not tapering, even though I think it does a little, but the face is...  Well it's not inaccurate to the character, it's just sort of dumbfounded looking and a little weird.  If that skin tone remains and the ball/sockets are a match, I think a swap with Pilot Luke might work.

Bossk...  Why do I like Trandoshans?  'Cause they gets all da ladies.  Bossk is back and better than ever.  I love the rampant (elsewhere) gripes of "why do him, he just got a good figure a couple years ago", but when you look at it, he's under articulated still and has some pre-posing going on to boot.  I'll take this baby in a heartbeat and I'm HOPING they do a Danz Borin using this as a base.  An easy/cheap cranking out of a Cantina denizen and he'd be SA on top of everything!  They've got the mold, so use it!

IG-88...  This is THE figure I was debating whether I liked it as much, or more than the SNowtrooper...  The wires, the articulation, the DESIGN...  This is outstanding.  You can see, ever-so-slightly, the knee joints...  And the knife.  I still can't get over that he has his knife.  Kudos to Hasbro on a figure that rivals their best work in terms of sculpt.  Now I just hope he's sturdy on those swizzel stick legs.  It's more than possible to accomplish, it's just a matter of Hasbro actually using the right plastic or attempting to get away with cheapy plastic on him.  That's my only fear on IG-88.

Otherwise the more I think, he may be my favorite, he's just that sharp looking...  But man an SA Snowtrooper, like the Scout last year, has been a LONG time coming.  NOw we need SA Rebels because, well, Hasbro's screwed the pooch on every Rebel "trooper" figure till the Honor Guard this year and it's just high friggin' time for some Hothies, Endie's, and Fleeties.

Some curiosities...

-Will Hasbro give us Han, again somewhere down the road, but with the hooded head?  What about in blue colors?  His coat's brown, that's really difficult to debate at this point, but do they throw nostalgia a bone on blue ones?  Or worse, do they do the hooded figure down the road ONLY in blue?  That'd suck.

-Would Hasbro use Bossk for Danz Borin? 

-Snowtrooper's an obvious candidate for a legends assortment next year I think.  Isn't the Scout making it this year?  I didn't really keep up with the voting much on that crap beyond the Pit Droids.

-Is IG-88 Hasbro's best design/sculpting work ever perhaps?  I'd say he beats VOTC Chewie and Ephant Mon (Ephant's not anything special as far as design but he is one of the finer sculpts in the modern line I believe)?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Artoo on April 21, 2007, 07:22 PM
I think Hasbro said they'll do a Blue re-paint down the road.
My opinions. (again) In order from least favorite to best.:

Luke- It's my least favorite  of the bunch. Due to his eyes looking weird. If they fix it he'll be up above Leia again.

Leia- Can they get her sculpt dead on? It's Ok, but not as good as they can go.

Han- The hat looks dumb. Why LFL approved this & didn't approve the hood-up is beyond me. Great figure other wise.

Bossk- Proves how good Hasbro can be at sculpts. Well, atleast on aliens. The previous versions were greatly sculpted.

IG-88- Though it's the least articulated of the bunch. It's the best improvement. Though where's the wrist articulation?

Snow Trooper- The army builder thing gives this figure the #1 spot. I'm glad they fixed the skirt,it looked retarded before. The Jango head isn't half bad either.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 21, 2007, 07:44 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot to comment on Bossk!  Absolutely no gripe there for me at all.  By the way, JJ, I believe Danz Borin is officially the heavy spacesuit guy, while the one you're referring to is Bossk's/Boshek's outfit (yellow) with Boshek's helmet on, sometimes called "Cantina Guy" or "Cantina Dude".  In this pic, Danz is in the foreground, while the other guy can be seen slightly in the background.

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/a/a8/Danz-borin.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on April 21, 2007, 09:29 PM
Yeah you're right, I forgot who Danz was (there's a Robo-cop figure helmet identical to his people have made customs using), and Cantina Dude is the Bossk duds.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jayson on April 21, 2007, 09:42 PM
Why does Luke have the 90's era action figure dirt speckles on him?

Cuz he's fresh from training on Dagobah  ;) and as a bonus, he gets the right saber this time.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Artoo on April 22, 2007, 06:31 PM
It says Bespin, not Dagobah. ;)

Lukes always have the correct hilt that's connected to the saber. The hilt's that don't connect are Vader hilts. :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darby on April 22, 2007, 07:37 PM
I think a hood-up/blue coat version of Han is inevitable.  Also, a Legends repack of the Snowtrooper.  If things carry on like they have been the last year or so, anyways. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jayson on April 22, 2007, 07:59 PM
It says Bespin, not Dagobah. ;)

I know, that's why I said fresh from Dagobah  ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on April 24, 2007, 09:32 AM
I'm really looking forward to this wave, as always.  Despite the higher pricepoint, I just like the "vintage" collection overall.  I've always said, if I couldn't afford to collect anything else, I'd try to at least get a set of the vintage figures each year.  It would definitely be easier (and cheaper) to keep up :P.  I'm kind of bummed we aren't getting the "hood up" head with Han as well, but hopefully we'll see it down the road.  The Snowtrooper is long overdue, like others have said, and we'll basically have a super articulated army of Imperials after this release.  I'm curious, what kind of lineup do you think we could have if this continues next year?  Thinking of the same type of wave make-up, we really only have one Han left (Bespin, or maybe Carbonite), and the major Imperial "troops" have been done (but we could definitely use some rebel troops now).  It will be interesting to see what will be next, but that's a ways off yet.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 6, 2007, 04:01 PM
I just thought this was a great, kinda rare pic of the Snowtroopers behind Vader, and it makes me anticipate the figure even more:

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pc720425dbfe85124a50c5d9d2be71120/e9a0fb57.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Reid on May 6, 2007, 08:46 PM
Can't wait for Endor Leia. My lineup for Spring '08...

Walrusman w/ Pistol (ANH)
Rebel Soldier Hoth w/ Rifle, Binocs, And Field Cap (ESB)
Lando Skiff Guard Disguise w/ Skiff Helmet, Force Pike And Palace Blaster (ROTJ)
The Emperor w/ Walking Stick (ROTJ)
AT-ST Driver w/ E-11, Helmet, And Richard Marquand Likeness (ROTJ)
Emperor's Royal Guard w/ Force Pike (Based Off Vintage Figure, ROTJ)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 7, 2007, 11:09 AM
Wasn't this wave slated for a May release time? If so, any day now?


DS
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 7, 2007, 07:06 PM
I was thinking it was June but I'm not sure now DS, it could be sooner...  I have a pre-order in though and got nothing lately on these.  I'm hoping soon though, as with last year they're my most anticipated figures of the year. :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 8, 2007, 09:38 AM
We'd be seeing some E-bay auctions if they were close.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jeff on May 8, 2007, 09:59 AM
I was thinking it was June

The last official word from Hasbro was around June 1st (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1174087119,84197,):

"One more note in vintage....it will start to appear on-shelf on or about 6/1."

Wouldn't surprise me if they started leaking out in the next two weeks though...
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 15, 2007, 09:58 AM
A lot of local people keep asking me if these are going to be available at C4.  :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: evenflow on May 15, 2007, 06:02 PM
According to RS, they were found in Arizona. They have a pic up.  :o
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: David on May 15, 2007, 06:46 PM
Holy crap, i need to check the DPCIs and track some down!!! That is actually very good news!!!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Artoo on May 15, 2007, 07:21 PM
I NEED DCPIS!!!!! :o

I just **** myself.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 15, 2007, 08:40 PM
Can't wait for Endor Leia. My lineup for Spring '08...

Walrusman w/ Pistol (ANH)
Rebel Soldier Hoth w/ Rifle, Binocs, And Field Cap (ESB)
Lando Skiff Guard Disguise w/ Skiff Helmet, Force Pike And Palace Blaster (ROTJ)
The Emperor w/ Walking Stick (ROTJ)
AT-ST Driver w/ E-11, Helmet, And Richard Marquand Likeness (ROTJ)
Emperor's Royal Guard w/ Force Pike (Based Off Vintage Figure, ROTJ)

I love you  :-*.  Actually, I would swap out the Lando Skiff Guard (I just think the Saga one is great, is underrated, and doesn't need an update quite like some others).  Replace him with a Hoth Luke and we're golden.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jeff on May 15, 2007, 08:45 PM
I NEED DCPIS!!!!! :o

If only there were a place to go to get DPCI #s (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10562.0).
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 15, 2007, 08:50 PM
Too bad we're not organized with those, eh?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Morgbug on May 15, 2007, 10:49 PM
You guys are pretty slack overall.  I'll go check Scum for them ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 15, 2007, 11:17 PM
These were found in SoCal by out good friend Bluesnaggletooh. NFC is also expecting to ship these in two weeks.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 16, 2007, 01:06 AM
You guys are pretty slack overall.  I'll go check Scum for them ::)

We're not all Colman.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Morgbug on May 16, 2007, 01:49 AM
Who?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 16, 2007, 01:52 AM
Who?

Exactly.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Artoo on May 16, 2007, 12:52 PM
I NEED DCPIS!!!!! :o

If only there were a place to go to get DPCI #s (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10562.0).
I  know...I was joking.

Here's a pic from RS of IG-88. 
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/MightyMegs/100_3614.jpg) :o
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: evenflow on May 16, 2007, 02:09 PM
That looks awesome. I was looking forward to him the most with this years vintage line, they did a great job.  ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 16, 2007, 03:12 PM
I got shot down at Target for these. They said there's a stocking date of 5/27. :'(
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Artoo on May 16, 2007, 03:18 PM
 ::)
Damn. Curse Transformers & FF2.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 16, 2007, 07:48 PM
I got shot down at Target for these. They said there's a stocking date of 5/27. :'(

Translation; Look dude, I get $5.15 an hour.  If it's not out, I'm not going to look for it for you.

Seriously some days I hate Target, others I don't.  I try not to overuse my DPCI Karma so I usually stick to exclusives...  I've found if you go to Customer Service they never turn you away though...  It's the stockers that don't want to lend a hand usually.  They're 50/50 I've found though, not all being bad, just frustrating when you get tails when you called heads.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Blackwolf13 on May 16, 2007, 08:07 PM
This is a really stupid question. I've never used the DCPI thing so bear with me:

Do you just go to the customer service counter, ask them for the item w/ that number and when they (hopefully) bring it out you just pick through the box for what you want? Is Target the only place this works? Would it work @ TRU with the SKN #?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Reid on May 16, 2007, 08:22 PM
I'll probably just wait for this wave to hit my Target, I only want one figure- Endor Leia. She looks great loose! Love the Endor General garb under her poncho.

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/P10100214.JPG)

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Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ryan on May 16, 2007, 08:25 PM
This is a really stupid question. I've never used the DCPI thing so bear with me:

Do you just go to the customer service counter, ask them for the item w/ that number and when they (hopefully) bring it out you just pick through the box for what you want? Is Target the only place this works? Would it work @ TRU with the SKN #?

That really isn't a stupid question at all, you just haven't ever used the trick before.  

What I normally do is first enter the DCPI into one of those price scanners to see if they even have it in back. If they don't I figure it isn't worth my time asking. If they do I'll usually ask one of the stockers if they can check it for me. No one has ever said no to that. Most everytime they are nice and will go get it for me. A few times you will get the certain guys that won't because it breaks the "Collecters Item" poloicy they have in place. When that happens I'll usually ask someone in Housewares or the next department over, and they will normally go check.

You can also try it at the Customer Service counter, they are usually the best about it I've found.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 16, 2007, 09:02 PM
OMG, Leia looks wonderful, just what I was hoping for to put in my rebel fleet meeting diorama!!  IG-88's scale looks terrific, but WHY does Hasbro insist on wide stances?!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ook on May 16, 2007, 09:05 PM
I called Target today, and they told the street date was today. I went down to get them, but they weren't out. The same lady I spoke to on the phone said they'd be put out over night, and I could get them tomorrow. :P I told a manger what happened, and they put a case out.

I am in love with Bossk. :-* Best thing since VTSC Greedo! 88's pretty cherry too.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Artoo on May 16, 2007, 09:37 PM
Heard they're in Jax! ;D
I'm going to check this weekend.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 17, 2007, 01:04 AM
Picked these up tonight too, I don't value any one figure over any other-they're all outstanding to me.

DS
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 17, 2007, 01:28 AM
What I do Blackwolf, is if I'm feeling free with my time I ask a stocker if he'll pull something, though usually I hit up a woman from another department.  I don't know why but it usually works better...  A woman working women's clothing or something.  Men, or boys, tend to be less helpful...  Younger guys will help more than older guys though.  And avoid anyone that looks like he might know something about SW figures at all.  There's a guy at a local Target in Pitt that when I asked for some help he started talking to a younger stocker and said how SW figures earn him tons on Ebay and how he would get me this thing this ONE time, but that he wouldn't in the future, and he blatantly admitted to pilferring things to resell and wanted me to tell him what was rare.  I lied and told him something that wasn't, was, and hopefully he bit into that.

Anyway, sometimes I get turned down by a floor worker...  It happens.  As a last resort I then go to the Customer Service counter.  Their training usually differs, and they're more atuned to helping out.  At that point it either works or it doesn't.  I tend to embelish a little, say it's for a kid, I called earlier and was told to just come down, I live far away (which isn't a lie for me), etc., etc.  It's sad that I WANT to give someone money and they are that much trouble to give it to them, but it works usually.  I try not to abuse the DPCI though, and I try to always be nice and hope for the same in return.

Sometimes you get jagoffs though, and that's all there is to it.  I've been told, with my gf's son in tow, that someone won't pull something for me/him under one of their myriad of excuses...  I have a friggin' kid there, and they just won't do it, which is BS IMO.

I will say though, you find good guys that help too.  I've made sure to contact district manager #'s of the store where I find someone that will just help me without ANY question or debate on the matter.  I try to reciprocate.  Those district manager calls can make a HUGE difference too, as the DM's love to hear customer happiness since they usually hear customer pissed offness.  When they hear good stuff (and give the employee's name so they get a pat on the back), they let their store/employees that did good know that they're happy with them and it may even get them a slight raise (when I was doing a business externship with JC Penney's I got a raise simply for a call someone made for me, so it happens).

I know our local grocery store actually gives cash bonuses for positive calls about employees...  So there's a way you can keep that employee in a "helpful" mood.

Anyway that's some tips from me anyway...  Like I say, I try not to abuse the DPCI.  Sometimes I just use it to see if stuff's at least there so I know to stop by soon and all and mostly use it to get exclusives so I don't have to "worry". 

And I agree, not a dumb question at all, and hopefully the answers helped.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Mikey D on May 17, 2007, 07:25 AM
I see Target is once again charging close to $12 for these.  Any confirmation that TRU is still going to be charging $10?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 17, 2007, 09:00 AM
Somebody at RS claimed to buy these at TRU for $10 each, yes.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 17, 2007, 09:45 AM
Got shot down again. :(

Perhaps we can start a- I got shot down at target tread. :D

These are enroute to NFC though.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on May 17, 2007, 09:56 AM
I guess I'll wait for TRU to get them... otherwise wait for the $3 clearance at Target.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Blackwolf13 on May 18, 2007, 12:12 AM
Thanks for the info, everyone. I may have to try that. One last question- Once you get what you want from the case, what then? Just say "Thanks. Bye." and leave them with the case? The only reason I ask is because nothing pisses me off more than the sloppy collectors and/or scalpers who go in & rip through everything leaving the area looking like a tornado hit it. Gives the rest of us normal collectors a bad name. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 18, 2007, 12:46 AM
I don't know about others but I think we've discussed how some of us actually clean up the toy aisle...  I know we've talked about that before.  I did it tonight at Target.  It's sad, but I like the SW area to look nice.  OCD I guess.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Blackwolf13 on May 18, 2007, 01:43 AM
Yeah. I tend to straighten up the Star Wars section too. If we take care of it maybe the employees wil be more apt to be cooperative.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: AmanaMatt on May 18, 2007, 02:41 AM
I went to my local Target yesterday morning and was told these will be put out 5/27 only. I went back to the same store in the afternoon and got an another employee to bring them out - the late shift crew seem to be the 'rebels' of the bunch.

First impressions: these look darn nice, especially Snowtrooper, Bossk and Ig-88....I am very happy with this wave.

Update: I opened the Bossk and Ig-88...one word for both: WOW! The detail on these two is staggering - Bossk is a work of art. Ig-88 is actually a quarter of a head shorter than VTSC Chewie, so he is truly an amazing fig, and finally accurate height (taller than the vintage one). His back holster is kinda cool - the guns are made of a very hard plastic, but the blaster doesn't really fit...Amazing detail on this one...they never need to make new sculpts of either ever again, they are that good! The paint detail on these are subtle yet vibrant all at the same time - one thing I would say with this line, these are paint apps you would not see in the regular line - just too much detail. Just an example of what I mean: Bossk's tongue is painted well - something the reg versions did not have, not in this detail. There is no slop at all with these paint apps.

I have not opened my Snowtrooper yet, as I scored just one of these, but he does look very, very nice. I am waiting for my case from Newforce before I get/open the rest. Newforce shipped will be $2 less a fig than Target....go Rick on your prices!!!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: jedi_master_sal on May 18, 2007, 02:12 PM
I don't know about others but I think we've discussed how some of us actually clean up the toy aisle...  I know we've talked about that before.  I did it tonight at Target.  It's sad, but I like the SW area to look nice.  OCD I guess.

I here ya Jesse. I do the same thing. Even if I find nothing new for me, I still like to clean up the Star Wars section at least. I feel that if that section looks nice, then people "may" be more apt to buying from it. That had a positive effect by getting some of those darn pegwarmers out of the store.

Strangely enough I've actually been reprimanded once for doing this. A manager came by and aasked what I was doing. I said something to the affect of "Oh, just trying to keep the aisle clean." He said something to the affect of "Well we have people to do that." Then he asked why I put the figures near the bottom pegs and ganged them up on as few pegs as possible. It was a simple reason. One, kids can actually reach the figures and might be able to more readily find the figures they want. Also, it gives indication to store employees to stock the pegs. Now he understood the first part but got a little upset at the second part.  He said that there are times when they just don't have figures to fill the pegs and that's why they leave them one or two to a peg.

I feel that that kind of looks cheap or that someone didn't feel like stocking. But I won't vocalize that to them, less they start calling me one of "those" collectors...

We have to be careful when dealing with store employees. Even if you've been one of the "good guys" for years, which is what I'm known as at one of my local Wal*Marts, it only takes one negative incident to tarnish what you may have worked years to build up a good rapport with.


As to the Vintage wave, I'm not going to be in a rush to get all of these figs. Just Snowtroopers. Even then, I'm only going to get 11 of them and stop (keeping one carded). The rest I'll get two of (one loose/one carded), but I'll prolly wait for clearances on these, unless they start to becomne HTF. Taking history into account though, that's doubtful.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: ruiner on May 18, 2007, 02:25 PM

He said that there are times when they just don't have figures to fill the pegs and that's why they leave them one or two to a peg.   

The pegs, to consumers, look better when there's one or two figures on them vs. totally empty.  Most of the time, the stores do not have enough stock to fill each and every peg, hence the 'facing up' of pegs and shelves.

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but I'll prolly wait for clearances on these, unless they start to becomne HTF. Taking history into account though, that's doubtful.

Oh, I don't know.  Hasbro's trying to scare us with talk like this:

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One more note in vintage... Because of this timing, we will not be making as many figures as we did in 2006, and are cutting back some to 2004 levels to ensure we don't have a lot of lingering stock this Fall. Collectors should make sure to get them when they see them because they will not be as abundant as they were in 2006.*


*QNA with Hasbro (3/16/07) JD.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ook on May 18, 2007, 02:30 PM
Update: I opened the Bossk and Ig-88...one word for both: WOW! The detail on these two is staggering - Bossk is a work of art. Ig-88 is actually a quarter of a head shorter than VTSC Chewie, so he is truly an amazing fig, and finally accurate height (taller than the vintage one). His back holster is kinda cool - the guns are made of a very hard plastic, but the blaster doesn't really fit...Amazing detail on this one...they never need to make new sculpts of either ever again, they are that good! The paint detail on these are subtle yet vibrant all at the same time - one thing I would say with this line, these are paint apps you would not see in the regular line - just too much detail. Just an example of what I mean: Bossk's tongue is painted well - something the reg versions did not have, not in this detail. There is no slop at all with these paint apps.

These two are my definite favorites from this series. I was very much looking forward to them, and they sure deliver! I can hardly believe 88 is double-jointed at the elbows, knees and ankles. (They damn well should be, at this price point.) I love his butcher knife. Since a society with the technology to fire lasers at each other would have no use for a knife in battle, I imagine he uses it for interrogation of organics... Sufficiently macabre! :o :-X :-[
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: jedi_master_sal on May 18, 2007, 08:00 PM

He said that there are times when they just don't have figures to fill the pegs and that's why they leave them one or two to a peg.   

The pegs, to consumers, look better when there's one or two figures on them vs. totally empty.  Most of the time, the stores do not have enough stock to fill each and every peg, hence the 'facing up' of pegs and shelves.

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rappor (sp?)

Rapport.   ;)


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but I'll prolly wait for clearances on these, unless they start to becomne HTF. Taking history into account though, that's doubtful.

Oh, I don't know.  Hasbro's trying to scare us with talk like this:

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One more note in vintage... Because of this timing, we will not be making as many figures as we did in 2006, and are cutting back some to 2004 levels to ensure we don't have a lot of lingering stock this Fall. Collectors should make sure to get them when they see them because they will not be as abundant as they were in 2006.*


*QNA with Hasbro (3/16/07) JD.


Fixed the error, thanks.

I still think the vintage figs will be abundant enough that I won't have to go crazy trying to find them. I'll focus on Snowtroopers and pick up the rest at a leisurely pace. The first set of vintage were not all that scarce except the trooper.

About looking good to the consumer, I'm not sold on that idea. Okay so it "appears" they have stock, but just a slight glance will give it away to what they are doing. I'd rather see figs near the bottom pegs for the kids then all spread out. But that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 19, 2007, 04:32 AM
I'm not biting on the "we're limiting these" thing either, so I agree with you there Sal...  I think a lot of that is Hasbro blowing smoke...  R2-Po-Ta-Too was the same way as I recall...  "Don't miss out on this one, it's gonna be rare", and the thing wasn't sold out after X-Mas and really just until recently on Hasbro's site...  I guess I'm a cynic when it comes to Hasbro's Q&A answers sometimes.

I can see them scaling back but I doubt we see these become "rare" by any means...  They'll just not be sitting STILL at some stores.  I know one WM near me still has them on clearance for (hah) $9.96.  Because that $.03 "rollback" makes me want to smack the **** out of smiley faces.  :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 19, 2007, 09:56 AM
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One more note in vintage... Because of this timing, we will not be making as many figures as we did in 2006, and are cutting back some to 2004 levels to ensure we don't have a lot of lingering stock this Fall. Collectors should make sure to get them when they see them because they will not be as abundant as they were in 2006.*


*QNA with Hasbro (3/16/07) JD.
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To me, this is akin to Rick McCallum, in response to the question about whether or not there are two versions of ROTS with a line variant, saying with a wink; "Go see the movie as many times as you can to find out for yourself."
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Ice on May 19, 2007, 01:50 PM
Picked up VIntage line for 9.99 at TOYS today. ;D Only figure I do not care is Leia..they rest are cool.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Nicklab on May 19, 2007, 02:05 PM
I hit a bunch of Targets yesterday and came up with a case of vintage.  They're all pretty cool.  And Hasbro might actually make me a believer in Bossk despite my protestations of him being included in this year's vintage line.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on May 19, 2007, 03:14 PM
Picked up a set with an extra Bossk and Snowtrooper today as well. I like em all except the Leia is so so. IG-88 rocks as well as the Snowtrooper.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 19, 2007, 03:26 PM
The poseability of the IG droid is incredible! The improved height a plus! The only thing I don't understand is the holster on his back-it has a hole in the bottom but fits no gun that he carries? Hmmmmm
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ook on May 19, 2007, 06:01 PM
The poseability of the IG droid is incredible! The improved height a plus! The only thing I don't understand is the holster on his back-it has a hole in the bottom but fits no gun that he carries? Hmmmmm

I don't know what that thing's for either, but I guess we could throw an extra gun from some other fig in there. Love the butcher knife, though, and its prominent display over the shoulder. ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Diddly on May 19, 2007, 07:06 PM
I saw a case of these in the back of the Target I work at today. Didn't get any though since I didn't have enough money. I'm hoping the stores are ordering more, because I only saw one V30AC case surrounded by cases of Transformers and Fantastic 4 crap.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 20, 2007, 10:14 AM
I'm hoping the stores are ordering more, because I only saw one V30AC case surrounded by cases of Transformers and Fantastic 4 crap.

Nope, only one case per store. ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on May 21, 2007, 10:29 AM
I was just curious, when are these "supposed" to hit?  I've heard May 27th, or I've also heard June 2nd.  I was just curious when I should head out looking for these, although I know there have been some reports already of finding them at TRU or at Target (via DCPI).
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 21, 2007, 10:38 AM
I'm hoping the stores are ordering more, because I only saw one V30AC case surrounded by cases of Transformers and Fantastic 4 crap.

Nope, only one case per store. ;)

Sure.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ook on May 21, 2007, 04:04 PM
I was just curious, when are these "supposed" to hit?  I've heard May 27th, or I've also heard June 2nd.  I was just curious when I should head out looking for these, although I know there have been some reports already of finding them at TRU or at Target (via DCPI).

I have no idea. When I called on the 16th, Target told me that was the street date. That's why I was able to talk them into bringing a case out when I got there. But other people keep saying their Targets are telling them other dates and that some are refusing to put them out before June 2nd or 3rd. I have no idea if there's a manufacturer-imposed street date or if Targets just make up their own random dates. ???
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jeff on May 21, 2007, 04:13 PM
The only date associated with the Vintage figures is the date of the next Target reset...  we all know that it is totally hit-or-miss as to how strict your local store is with things.   :-\

In the next few weeks (on or around 5/27), you'll see the majority of Targets reset for the FF2 and Transformers movies toys.  At this time, the pegs for the Vintage figures (as well as the pegs for the Comic Packs) should appear.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Nicklab on May 21, 2007, 05:03 PM
There's no set street date from Hasbro.  When they do intend to have a firm street date the cases that ship will have red lettering on them saying NOT TO BE SOLD BEFORE **/**/2007.

When I bought my case on Friday I took note that there was no such writing on the case.  In fact, I didn't even take the figures out of the case when I got them.  I just took the whole box up to the register, checked out and kept the box.  And there's still no writing on it.  Any date that people might be referring to has to involved a reset date at the retailers and not something generated by Hasbro.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Ice on May 21, 2007, 09:56 PM
Im just glad I got mine this weekend.  I guess time will tell how many of these there will be, and the coins.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ook on May 21, 2007, 09:58 PM
Any army builders have an extra POP? I'm not getting the Snowtrooper, but I'd like the coin set.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Ice on May 21, 2007, 10:03 PM
Ook, you heade down to LA this weekend? Im looken to hitch a ride down there?  ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ook on May 21, 2007, 10:05 PM
Ook, you heade down to LA this weekend? Im looken to hitch a ride down there?  ;D

No, I missing the whole con. :'(
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 22, 2007, 02:00 AM
Ook, you heade down to LA this weekend? Im looken to hitch a ride down there?  ;D

Curious,

Did you ask them in the SOCAL thread for a ride yet Ice? If so, would no one help?

DSssssssssssssss
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 22, 2007, 02:21 AM
On another note, I mailed away my pops Saturday. Did I miss it? When were we supposed to get the coins mailed to us? Anyone know?

DS
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ook on May 22, 2007, 02:25 AM
On another note, I mailed away my pops Saturday. Did I miss it? When were we supposed to get the coins mailed to us? Anyone know?

DS

6-8 weeks from receipt of your order.

That's what it says on the order form.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 22, 2007, 02:38 AM
Hah! I knew I missed it. Thanks for the eye opener Ook!



DS
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 22, 2007, 09:47 AM
One of the targets that kept shooting me down for these said they couldn't bring it out because they had no floor location. Now they have a floor location, but then they told me 5/27. Then I found out that they sold the case they wouldn't sell me in the first place.  :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 22, 2007, 10:10 AM
I tried yesterday with the DCPI and after several minutes "conferring" in the back, he politely told me that "Lucasarts" won't allow them to be sold until the 27th.  Really?  I had no idea a video game developer had any say over selling of Hasbro toys  :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ook on May 22, 2007, 04:37 PM
I tried yesterday with the DCPI and after several minutes "conferring" in the back, he politely told me that "Lucasarts" won't allow them to be sold until the 27th.  Really?  I had no idea a video game developer had any say over selling of Hasbro toys  :P

 :D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 22, 2007, 04:39 PM
I didn't realize each store had their own "Lucasarts" rep telling them not to do this or that too.  Wow.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jayson on May 22, 2007, 05:57 PM
Holy balls! What next? "George Lucas is in the stockroom he says no."  ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Reid on May 22, 2007, 06:48 PM
Found all of this wave at Target minus the Snowtrooper, and picked up the Endor Leia.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 22, 2007, 09:06 PM
Holy balls! What next? "George Lucas is in the stockroom he says no."  ::)

He is, and he did.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 22, 2007, 09:11 PM
None of this really surprises me, I've heard from retail workers countless times that "the line has been discontinued" rather than them actually getting me my **** from the stockroom or at least checking for it.

I've been hearing crap like this since 1995 starting with the frantic search for monkey leia.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Matt on May 22, 2007, 09:54 PM
Holy balls! What next? "George Lucas is in the stockroom he says no."  ::)

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Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ook on May 22, 2007, 11:03 PM
None of this really surprises me, I've heard from retail workers countless times that "the line has been discontinued" rather than them actually getting me my **** from the stockroom or at least checking for it.

You know, I think I've actually heard that garbage once or twice. At very least retail employees have said something to the effect that they don't think they're going to carry Star Wars stuff anymore. What a joke.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: speedermike on May 23, 2007, 12:08 AM
Back to topic...these are fantastic figures.  I picked up all six at a TRU tonight (9.99!) and tey are great.   IG-88 and Bossk are two of the best made figures ever.  I can't wait for next year!  Nikto!  Klaatu!  Bararda!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ook on May 23, 2007, 12:14 AM
Nikto!  Klaatu!  Bararda!

We need an updated Walrusman bad! Basic or "Vintage", I want a Ponda Baba that's as amazing as Bossk! (Not to mention a decent Evazan...)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 23, 2007, 02:00 AM
Be kinda nice if a nice Evazan was put out the same year Baba got a vintage figure or something...  Be a nice complement to one another I think, tie the two pricepoints together a little.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on May 23, 2007, 10:51 AM
I can't wait for next year!  Nikto!  Klaatu!  Bararda!

You must be waiting for the Earth to stand still!  ;)

I have yet to find them but have taken a look at Jedijaybird's and those are pretty sweet. All of them look good and the likensses are dead on for them except for Luke and Leia. Leia's skin seemed too alabastorish. I at least am going to pick up the Bounty Hunters and the trooper, though.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jayson on May 23, 2007, 11:01 AM
Glad you liked them Steve. And as for Walrusman, I think it be cool if along with the normal hands (that can hold a weapon), they include a set of flipper hands as well.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: jedipurge on May 23, 2007, 01:21 PM
But would Walrusman's arm be removable is the question  :P  And would the good Dr. have gut slashing feature?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on May 23, 2007, 03:56 PM
Picked up my first Snowtroopers today - kick ass figure.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on May 23, 2007, 04:38 PM
I just got notification that my "set" has been processed and will ship shortly from BBTS, so if anyone is interested in ordering a set (or a case) they seem to currently be in stock over there (and elsewhere, I'm sure).
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 24, 2007, 01:01 PM
I can't wait for next year!  Nikto!  Klaatu!  Bararda!

You must be waiting for the Earth to stand still!  ;)

...but, he said them in the wrong order-how can he ever get safe control of the book now!! :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on May 27, 2007, 12:15 PM
Check out this BS auction:

Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-2007-UGH-VINTAGE-COIN-SET-REDEMPTION-CERT_W0QQitemZ150126787271QQihZ005QQcategoryZ751QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

BIN coin certificate with stickers, $69.99

For less than that you can get all 6 figures, open them, and then mail away for the coins.

Bastard.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 27, 2007, 01:47 PM
People are immense douchebags.  I have had people offer me figures for half price so they could get the mail-in, which I find to be more than fair, but more than the price of the figures to get a set of the coins?  You'd have to be really challenged to pick that up.  Can't stand people sometimes.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on May 27, 2007, 03:02 PM
I'm going to send him a message.

I'll let you know if I hear back.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on May 27, 2007, 03:54 PM
Here's a much better deal - same thing, $49.99  ::)

Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-VINTAGE-SAGA-COLLECTION-REDEMPTION-STICKERS_W0QQitemZ120125899456QQihZ002QQcategoryZ101609QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Conversely, here's an auction for all 6 figures MOC for $1.00 less than the first guy just selling stickers...:

Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-VINTAGE-FIGURES-2007-SERIES-SET-OF-6_W0QQitemZ320119877648QQihZ011QQcategoryZ2476QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on May 27, 2007, 06:05 PM
Reply from seller:

"Hello, Other redemption certs sold for $10.00 more than we are asking. As you know I can ask any price I wish for any certain item. Because it might not actually cost that much doesnt mean I cant ask that much. What about the bids on $2.00 items that go for much more than that. You might not like this but it is not your problem. Back off if you dont like it and just dont bid or buy if you dont like the price. I personally could care less what you think. I have had several people ask me when I was selling the vintage figures included, if I would sell them just the certificate for the same price I was asking for the figures. Your disappointment does not upset me in the least, just dont buy from me. "

What an *******.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 27, 2007, 09:19 PM
Reply from seller:

"Hello, Other redemption certs sold for $10.00 more than we are asking. As you know I can ask any price I wish for any certain item. Because it might not actually cost that much doesnt mean I cant ask that much. What about the bids on $2.00 items that go for much more than that. You might not like this but it is not your problem. Back off if you dont like it and just dont bid or buy if you dont like the price. I personally could care less what you think. I have had several people ask me when I was selling the vintage figures included, if I would sell them just the certificate for the same price I was asking for the figures. Your disappointment does not upset me in the least, just dont buy from me. "

What an *******.

I wouldn't mind seeing the message that you sent him first that triggered the reply.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Paul on May 27, 2007, 09:32 PM
I'd like to see how the guy has decorated his parent's garage..I mean his "apartment"....

I'd sell my certificates online, IF I couldn't find anybody on the the boards to give them to.  Fortunately that has yet to be a problem.

I like this year that they sticker just says "Figure"...last years madness of selling Xwing Luke stickers with the coupon and Biker Scout stickers (before Hasbro changed the rules) was funny.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on May 28, 2007, 01:14 AM
Reply from seller:

"Hello, Other redemption certs sold for $10.00 more than we are asking. As you know I can ask any price I wish for any certain item. Because it might not actually cost that much doesnt mean I cant ask that much. What about the bids on $2.00 items that go for much more than that. You might not like this but it is not your problem. Back off if you dont like it and just dont bid or buy if you dont like the price. I personally could care less what you think. I have had several people ask me when I was selling the vintage figures included, if I would sell them just the certificate for the same price I was asking for the figures. Your disappointment does not upset me in the least, just dont buy from me. "

What an *******.

I wouldn't mind seeing the message that you sent him first that triggered the reply.

You got it.  This was the message:

"Hello.

I just wanted to ask what it is that makes you think it's okay to try to charge $69.99 for the stickers from the vintage figures. Maybe it was an error? But the only thing I can see here is someone trying to take advantage of someone else by convincing maybe an uninformed person that this is something special and worthy of that much money. You and I both know that for $69.99 you can buy all the toys, and get the stickers for free. So what it looks like, is like you're trying to find someone to make a mistake so you can get your set for free.

Stuff like that makes me sick. I hope there's a reasonable explanation for the price you're asking or that maybe it was supposed to say 9.99 or something like that. If not, I'll just say that it is always troublesome to see this type of thing happen."



And after his reply, I sent this last message:

"You're absolutely right, you can ask for whatever inane dollar amount you want.

Here's to hoping no one is gullible enough to be taken advantage of by you.

Have a nice day."



I'd also love to see redemption certificate auctions that ended at $79.99 or higher.  Surely no one is dumb enough to pay that much for these?  Maybe last time around when you couldn't find a Biker Scout, but this time they're all as good as the others.




Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 28, 2007, 02:03 AM
He's a needledick.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: ruiner on May 29, 2007, 11:52 AM
In case anyone cares or needs the set, HTS.com has all six figures for $59.99.

Not a bad deal when you consider the price of gas and tax.

www.hasbrotoyshop.com



Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Paul on May 29, 2007, 12:57 PM
OH and FYI the Discount code DID work...now whether or not they honor it...

Came out to $120.00 for 2 sets (the same number of figures in a case).  Then add shipping and Tax?  Tax?  I didn't know they charged tax if I was out of state....

Now..let the Snowtrooper search begin in earnest..(or where ever they may be found)

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx

Edit:  Rob had to call and help me with Math....the code did NOT work

I just saw that I got them for $120 for 2 Sets which was $20 cheaper than an online dealer I pre-ordered from.....

OOPS Sorry...it is Fuzzy Math....for my next trick...I conquer exchange rates....

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on May 29, 2007, 01:18 PM
Discount code did NOT work - $120/12 = $10.00 each.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 29, 2007, 01:29 PM
Geez, they're not even selling them individually.  I'm gonna pass on the set of 6 for now.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: ruiner on May 29, 2007, 01:36 PM
I can understand why they're moving away from individual figure listings - take a look at what's 'out of stock' right now.

They're sitting on hundreds of half empty cases because everyone cherry picked the army builders and McQ's.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 29, 2007, 01:52 PM
I can understand why they're moving away from individual figure listings - take a look at what's 'out of stock' right now.

They're sitting on hundreds of half empty cases because everyone cherry picked the army builders and McQ's.



I'm sure I'm going to get Leia, Luke and Han at clearance prices at either Target or Walmart.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 31, 2007, 04:23 AM
Wow...  Do you realize that IG-88 has nothing short of EIGHTEEN points of articulation?  Add to that 4 accessories (that interact), and a myriad of separately sculpted pieces that are added to the figure's body to "complete" him...  Wow.  VOTC Chewbacca just got pWnEd! I think.  He ain't perfect, and this ain't my final review on him, but god damn, this is figure complexity...  I'm seriously in some kind of action figure awe on this one.

I have a Snowie open too, great, but I'm still floored by IG-88's simply incredible design...  It may be the first figure I fully feel was worth the inflated "Vintage" assortment price, at least to me.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 31, 2007, 09:20 AM
That sounds great, Jesse!  I was concerned about the wide stance, but I noticed someone had put him on a figure stand and his legs were straight.
So far, I've only found one Leia and one Han Hoth.  I've already drilled out a hooded Han head and test fit it, and it'll work great; I just need to find a second one.  Here is a pic of the Leia in my ROTJ meeting diorama:

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p6799de994683c0da29ee8b2db7003f43/e94340a6.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 31, 2007, 09:28 AM
I'm really glad that, once again, Target held everything for a stocking date. I walked in Sunday morning the 27th and found absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 1, 2007, 09:04 AM
Got shipping notification from Newforce. Should be here by the 7th.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 1, 2007, 10:51 AM
Got shipping notification from Newforce.

Me too.  Can't wait to crack into these!  :)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 1, 2007, 10:53 AM
WAL-MART IS CARRYING THESE FOR $10 TARGET $12!
I am very sorry I bought so many at Target could have had extras...oh well.
Wal-Mart had tons of these yesterday along with the Fathers day pack.

(This may anger some but I am playing devils advocate) In regards to the jerky seller, he does have the right to sell stuff however he pleases he is a free man. While I do not agree with his prices and would never buy from him he was verbally attacked. Who are we to infringe our views on him and tell him he is wrong. He did not break any laws, he is taking advantage of capitolism and timing. He was provoked in his response, thus I feel he was in the right on this one in that regard.

How would you feel if someone told you how to sell or do things out of the blue? Its imposing on their choice.
At JD, the members who sell and trade are top notch and do so by ethics to help other members. People on ebay do not go by that. Disagree or agree, they have that right to do so and that should be respected whether you like it or not.

Just my humble opinion but I feel you were wrong Rob. Your intentions were right but you attacked the guy, and yes he overpriced but its his choice.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Paul on June 1, 2007, 11:57 AM
JJ,

What does the holster on IG 88's back hold?  I can't get the E-11 into it, but a DH-17 fit just fine....


Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Artoo on June 1, 2007, 12:07 PM
Jackofthetradez it was the same last year, no big surprise.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on June 1, 2007, 03:01 PM
I hit Target as they were working on resetting the action figure aisle today, and was able to pick up some VTSC figures.  They had the entire wave there, but at $12 a pop, I just picked up 2x Snowtroopers and 1x Hoth Han Solo.  I received a set last week from BBTS (to leave carded most likely), and I thought I could pick up the rest of the wave loose when they show elsewhere for $9.99 (or if Target lowers their price).
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 1, 2007, 03:02 PM
I agree with the right to do it JACK, completely...  That's just America.  I don't feel bad that Rob sent him a letter though that was less than flattering.  At the very least it was a nuisance to him, so I got my jollies off of that. :)

On a completely other note though, I am 99% sure the holster is made for the E-11 there paul, but it just isn't made well to hold it.  I think with a slight bit of careful dremeling I can get it to hold the E-11 as it should...  I think it's just a factory error.  One of the only flaws on the figure.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: ruiner on June 1, 2007, 03:18 PM
There's a big difference between capitalism and deception.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 1, 2007, 03:38 PM
(This may anger some but I am playing devils advocate) In regards to the jerky seller, he does have the right to sell stuff however he pleases he is a free man. While I do not agree with his prices and would never buy from him he was verbally attacked. Who are we to infringe our views on him and tell him he is wrong. He did not break any laws, he is taking advantage of capitolism and timing. He was provoked in his response, thus I feel he was in the right on this one in that regard.

How would you feel if someone told you how to sell or do things out of the blue? Its imposing on their choice.
At JD, the members who sell and trade are top notch and do so by ethics to help other members. People on ebay do not go by that. Disagree or agree, they have that right to do so and that should be respected whether you like it or not.

Just my humble opinion but I feel you were wrong Rob. Your intentions were right but you attacked the guy, and yes he overpriced but its his choice.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, and in part I agree with your sentiments, but in this case I feel that the seller was trying to make his money back on the Vintage wave by getting rid of the stickers.  If he'd charged $30 it would have been something different.  But anyone who knows better knows that those 6 stickers can be had in stores for less than that price and then you'd have the stickers, AND the toys.  If someone was going to buy that auction, they'd have to shell out $69.99 plus shipping for the certificate and stickers, then another $4.95.

So I made the small leap that this guy was hoping someone who was uninformed would come along, see the word vintage, thing it was a big deal and grossly overpay for them - so he could get his toys for free.

So I was annoyed.  Even if it his inalienable right to charge $5,000.00 for them if he wants to.


Here's another less severe example that illustrates my $30 comment above - it's a scenario I'm almost OK with.  This guy is asking $34.99 and is shipping for free. 

Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-SAGA-VINTAGE-Mail-In-COIN-SET-Redemption-TAC_W0QQitemZ200115771010QQihZ010QQcategoryZ2476QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

While I still think that's too much, conceivably there could be a person out there who wanted the coins and not the figures - if they do this they'd actually save $20.00 or so.  At $69.99, they get ripped off either way because for even less money they could have the toys and the coins.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: David on June 1, 2007, 05:23 PM
Sorry Rob but that seller does have a point, that it is his right to sell anything for any price he wants to get for it, and although it is kind of deceitful, its just the way things work. Basically, he's wrong but he has a right to be wrong.

...still...

...WHAT AN A$$H :o LE!!! Hed better not get that seventy bucks, doesnt seem to deserve it whatsoever. Arent human beings just DIC#S!?!

...still...

...I hate to say this, but if I had just a pinch less morality in me, Id probably take a shot at doing something like what that seller did.  :-X


Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on June 1, 2007, 05:36 PM
Rob-

You were looking for auctions that ended 79.99 or higher? Well here's one that's close.

70.00 plus shipping (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-TAC-30th-Ann-Vintage-Figure-Toy-Fair-Coin-set_W0QQitemZ170112870709QQihZ007QQcategoryZ2474QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 1, 2007, 05:46 PM
The one I was originally looking at was a $69.99 BIN - that one you posted is even worse.

Thankfully it seems that no one has been uninformed enough to fall for it.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 1, 2007, 05:47 PM
Sorry Rob but that seller does have a point, that it is his right to sell anything for any price he wants to get for it, and although it is kind of deceitful, its just the way things work. Basically, he's wrong but he has a right to be wrong.

And I've conceded as much - no doubt it is their right to charge any idiotic, dishonest amount they want.


...still...

...WHAT AN A$$H :o LE!!! Hed better not get that seventy bucks, doesnt seem to deserve it whatsoever. Arent human beings just DIC#S!?!

...still...

Correct again.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on June 1, 2007, 06:11 PM
The one I was originally looking at was a $69.99 BIN - that one you posted is even worse.

Thankfully it seems that no one has been uninformed enough to fall for it.



If you look in the link to the 4 offers, you'll see one person was guillble enough to fall for it.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 1, 2007, 08:33 PM
So I made the small leap that this guy was hoping someone who was uninformed would come along, see the word vintage, thing it was a big deal and grossly overpay for them - so he could get his toys for free.
So I was annoyed.  Even if it his inalienable right to charge $5,000.00 for them if he wants to.

Rob your intentions are honorable and well respected and above all else, well placed. I really am with you on that one. There is that fine line, thats all I wanted to point out. This guy could be hard up for cash, most likely he is just a creepy guy living in his mom's attic. :)

To Rob's credit maybe we should start a thread of for rip off sellers on ebay and elsewhere to warn others from being taken advantage of. That way we do that community service while "respecting" their choices. I would add Brian's toys first on the list. That cat is way overpriced - on everything!

The sad thing is I hit 4 stores today (3 Targets and 1 TRU) and the VOTC was everywhere and in abundance. As Yoda instructed - Patience!
I found 3 Wave 3 Stormies and 2 Vaders with none of the other characters in sight. Very weird.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 2, 2007, 02:05 AM
In vintage goodness news, I went to my WM where I pillaged 2 cases the other day...  Having a renewed budget I was meandering the aisles and all the figures I left from the pillaged cases were just lying around on a shelf.  Not one vinty figure had sold since Wednesday night...

So I bought a set and am gonna open 'em here when I get a moment.  Cannot wait.  My NFC order shipped too so I have a case on the way, but I'll have a nice loose set already here for inspection...  They have to pass my rigorous "posing" on my desk for a little while. ;)  Not playing mind you, this is all legit product testing...  *ahem*
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: David on June 2, 2007, 10:16 AM
;)  Not playing mind you, this is all legit product testing...  *ahem*

Your secret is safe with us.  ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on June 2, 2007, 10:34 AM
Checked 4 different stores yesterday, and found nothing.  I know it's a matter of time, but geez it seems like everybody has pegs overflowing with vintage except for me  ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Ice on June 2, 2007, 02:05 PM
Sent my Vintage Coin Redemption order in today.  ;D And I did with out really destroying the plastic clamshell. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 2, 2007, 04:38 PM
I think mine's somewhat a fluke DB...

I pillaged 2 cases the other night, and I think the stockers didn't want to put them out yet because of resets at that store...  Getting ready for Transformers movie it seemed to me.

Anyway, the figures were out but not on a peg, just sitting out, and the pre-pack display they had come shipped in was apparantly tossed out... 

My store's kind of isolated but there is apparantly a slight scalper problem there (or so I've been told by employees).  So I dunno if it was just nobody visiting or what but the whole two cases I left were still there.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Ice on June 2, 2007, 05:56 PM
I think mine's somewhat a fluke DB...

I pillaged 2 cases the other night, and I think the stockers didn't want to put them out yet because of resets at that store...  Getting ready for Transformers movie it seemed to me.

Anyway, the figures were out but not on a peg, just sitting out, and the pre-pack display they had come shipped in was apparantly tossed out... 

My store's kind of isolated but there is apparantly a slight scalper problem there (or so I've been told by employees).  So I dunno if it was just nobody visiting or what but the whole two cases I left were still there.
Well you are lucky if its only a "slight" scalper problem.  I really pisssed of a local scalper when he found out that I found wave 3 at "his" store ( heheh I made sure he found out from me) he asked me why I was bragging about all the stuff I found. ROLF, I had to keep myself from jumping up and down knowing that I got to him, at last.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Diddly on June 2, 2007, 10:22 PM
Saw Luke, Han, and Leia at TRU today and snagged them. They were $10 each, in case anyone was wondering.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Greg on June 2, 2007, 11:25 PM
   I picked up two of the Snow Troopers and IG-88 this morning at Target. The $11.99 price is definately worth paying for those two figures. I wasn't so sure about the other four characters for that much money.
   The Snow Trooper is a very nice figure. I like the bulkiness of the armor and helmet and I enjoy the super articulation. The cloth skirt is a very nice touch, and it's something that would've been nice on the Galactic Marine figure. The only downsides I've found with this figure is the lack of a bigger gun for this "ground assault" trooper and not being able to get a good firing pose out of him.
   IG-88 is definately one of my favorite figures, and the best Empire Strikes Back figure made so far. The level of detail is amazing on this figure. The knife and pistol are nice additions, and the articulation is really good for this character. My problems: the pistol does not fit in the holster and I feel like I'm going to break this guy at one of his joints.
   Overall, these Vintage remake figures seem better than last year's figures and I cannot wait to pick up the other four figures in the series.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: jedi_master_sal on June 3, 2007, 12:08 AM
Luke and Leia are sub par, IMO. Han isn't far behind, though I like the hatless version. (Finally)

Bossk, IG-88 and the Snowtrooper are awesome figs. We finally have the ultimate Bossk. IG-88 is VERY close to being the ultimate and if never done new again, I can accept this version as such. The snowtrooper is a thing of art.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on June 3, 2007, 12:15 AM
I saw everything except the Snowtrooper.  I left the items on the pegs mainly because I just spent $35 for the C4 exclusive and the $12 tag made me shy away today.  Had a snowtrooper been there I'd have nabbed that because those will be tough to find for a few months I assume.  Anyway, the others looked pretty good.  Han's head was kind of strange...the paint or something?  Eh, I was tired though so could have just been me.  It was nice to finally see them sitting on the pegs. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Greg on June 3, 2007, 12:29 AM
It was definately not you, Darth Broem. I noticed that all of the Han Solos at a local Target had a wierd paint job on their heads.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on June 3, 2007, 02:31 AM
found all these tonight at wally, picked up the lone snow trooper figuring he'll be hard to find later on. Snowy, ig-88 and bossk looked awesome, luke is not bad at all - better than moisture vapa luke, hoth han is ok and endor leia is ok. I'll definatley get ig-88 because my son and I both like him and maybe another snowy IF I ever see one. And probably bossk too.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on June 3, 2007, 10:37 AM
Yeah, now I am mad at myself for not picking up IG-88.  Oh well.  I think he'll show up again before the end of the month...especially at those prices.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 3, 2007, 12:49 PM
I still haven't seen any of these outside of a Target.  I've been cheaping out hoping to save the 1.99 each by getting them elsewhere... and nada.  Half of the Wal-Marts near me have reset and the plan-o-gram is taped up on the aisle and there doesn't even seem to be a spot for vintage figures.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: David on June 3, 2007, 04:24 PM
I found all of these at Target today except for snowtrooper. I dont know if Im gonna open them, Hoth Han in particular looks like a great figure in person, but Bespin Luke...not so much.

There were one of each (zero of snowtrooper  :'( ) except for Bossk, there were three of him.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 4, 2007, 01:15 AM
The cases I pillaged at WM had these in pre-pack displays, Rob...  So I'm assuming by that, that these are an endcap or island display item that can "float" from store to store, like the coin folder/Vader is, or the Tins have become (at least in my area).  They wouldn't show on plan-o-grams then I don't think.

The figures from the pillaged cases have wound up, out of the display, on an endcap with other SW stuff like the folders and whatnot.  No designated spot for them with a tag though.  Seems they weren't to be out yet, or that's my best guess from what I've seen.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 4, 2007, 01:24 AM
Interesting.  I wonder how many Wal-Marts I stopped at this weekend actually had them on an endcap somewhere that I didn't check.   ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 4, 2007, 01:38 AM
If your area is like mine at all, none...  I think the cases really aren't to be out yet, at least by my estimations up here.  I think my pillaging the cases I did was a no-no and they frustratedly put out what I didn't buy...  But yeah there's no tag for it and ours went through the Transformer resets this week too.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on June 4, 2007, 09:44 AM
I saw these at Target last Friday, and they were sold out by the next day - even at the $11.99 price.  I noticed they had these at our Wal-Mart this weekend as well, which is where I picked up the majority of mine ($9.88 there).  At our store, they were in the prepacked displays as well (like they originally were last year), and were tucked away in the overflow from the action figure aisle (just a mismash of stuff stacked everywhere basically).  I don't know if anyone else had seen them yet, because everything was still there (the Father's Day packs were there as well).  They only had three of the cardboard displays out there though, compared to 10 or more with last year's wave.  Maybe these will be more limited, or maybe they just hadn't put everything out yet.  Things did seem pretty focused on Transformers this weekend.

I haven't opened them all yet, but I have a Hoth Han and Snowtrooper on the desk here.  I know many aren't thrilled with the Han, but I think the figure is pretty good - at least with the "hat" off.  I have noticed different paint applications on most of them though, kind of a "bleach" look in Han's hair.  Pretty nice wave overall again though.  Its funny, even though they weren't necessarily the best sellers, I think last year's wave and this year's have been more consistently great overall than some of the initial VOTC offerings (C-3PO is one example).  Anyways, glad to see them out, hopefully everyone can get what they need.  I will admit, the $10 pricepoint is starting to sting a little more, especially with the army builders.  Just put this Snowtrooper in battle packs and Legends assortments right away ;).
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: AmanaMatt on June 4, 2007, 11:04 PM
I love this wave  - here's a couple of pics:

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/100_0056.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/100_0054.jpg)
(Hoth Han has come a long way!)

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/100_0053.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/100_0061.jpg)
(not too shabby, either)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: speedermike on June 4, 2007, 11:07 PM
Did you cut Han's hat down to fit it on?  I can't get mine on at all.  I really wish they'd gone with swappable heads...
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: AmanaMatt on June 4, 2007, 11:15 PM
Did you cut Han's hat down to fit it on?  I can't get mine on at all.  I really wish they'd gone with swappable heads...

No, Han's hat is entirely the same - I take his neck thing off, pull off Han's head and fit the head/hat thing around the neck piece, and then place all of that back of the neck joint.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 5, 2007, 01:00 AM
Matt, thanks for that tip, I'm gonna futz with that as I click post here...  Interesting technique to make a 100% better look, and appreciation, for the removable helmet.

I cannot wait for a hood for this guy though, honestly.  Be it a full head you pop on or whatever...  It's a must have for this figure.

EDIT:

Holy cow, that's night and day...  Thanks again Matt.  It's not an easy thing to pull off...  Takes a little fidgeting/working to get that hat's parts down in there. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: AmanaMatt on June 5, 2007, 02:13 AM
Matt, thanks for that tip, I'm gonna futz with that as I click post here...  Interesting technique to make a 100% better look, and appreciation, for the removable helmet.

I cannot wait for a hood for this guy though, honestly.  Be it a full head you pop on or whatever...  It's a must have for this figure.

EDIT:

Holy cow, that's night and day...  Thanks again Matt.  It's not an easy thing to pull off...  Takes a little fidgeting/working to get that hat's parts down in there. 

Thanks, Glad I could help!  ;D  For most, try a Hairdryer - it will make the hood piece very soft and you will find this easier to do...! Now, the hood will limit movement, but it looks decent. I re-read what I said, and its confusing: for those that try this, make sure you pop Han's head off, pull the neck thingie off and then put his headgear on Han's head- then when that is done, (again, with the neck piece loose), stuff the headgear 'tailends' down into the neck piece, THEN place all of that back onto the neck joint! Its easy when done that way and if not, the hairdryer will solve all issues.


Here is my final pic with these two - I tweaked Han just a bit more - mainly, I cut off the excess brown plastic that lined the neck piece - that made it look sort of odd. I think he looks good with the lightsaber! I wouldn't mess with him.

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/100_0063.jpg)





Here is one last modification to make my Ig-88 look super dangerous! (I cut the end of gun off)

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/100_0065.jpg)

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 5, 2007, 03:02 PM
Finally found them at Wal-Mart today!  My patience paid off.  2 fresh cases on the shelves - so I also nabbed another 4 Snowtroopers.

Expensive habit.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: AmanaMatt on June 5, 2007, 11:19 PM
Finally found them at Wal-Mart today!  My patience paid off.  2 fresh cases on the shelves - so I also nabbed another 4 Snowtroopers.

Expensive habit.

I am up to 5 myself - 1 carded, the rest loose. I have three Ig-88s, three Bossks and two of the rest!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: David on June 6, 2007, 10:51 AM
I'm seeing a lot more Hans and Leias than any of the others, which is weird because they are easily two of the three best figures of the wave. Weird.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: CaptainYoda on June 6, 2007, 11:21 AM
My Walmart has a bunch of these, minus the Snowtrooper of course. And the first ten I looked at, all had the stickers cut out, already. I can't believe it. Some of the cases were just cut right open, and some looked a little better. But still, I stopped looking through the figures so I dont know if they were all like that or not. It is just really lame.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: AmanaMatt on June 6, 2007, 11:43 AM
My Walmart has a bunch of these, minus the Snowtrooper of course. And the first ten I looked at, all had the stickers cut out, already. I can't believe it. Some of the cases were just cut right open, and some looked a little better. But still, I stopped looking through the figures so I dont know if they were all like that or not. It is just really lame.

As for such a stupid mail-away too.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on June 6, 2007, 04:07 PM
I checked Target and WM today, and there wasn't a whole lot left of the VTSC.  Target was still sold out (from the first day they had them last Friday), and WM had 2 each of Han, Luke, and Bossk, and 4 or so of the Leia.  No IG-88 or Snowtroopers in sight.  I'm happy with what I've got so far, but I might pick up a few extras if they hang around for awhile this summer.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: BrentS on June 6, 2007, 08:44 PM
Found a bunch of these at TRU tonight.  They had each figure on its own peg - had to be at least 10 of each one.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on June 6, 2007, 11:53 PM
I finally have one of each, but I got them all at Target and I feel slightly sore in the anal region after paying $12 each.  Needless to say, any duplicates will be purchased at the other stores.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: mr director on June 7, 2007, 01:04 PM
Picked up Snowtrooper, Han, Luke & IG-88 at WM.  They had a few more Leias and Bossks so since I did not have anymore money I am holding out.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on June 8, 2007, 06:43 PM
I have more pics in the customizing forums, but here is a hood-up version I made since Hasbro refused to give us one  >:(

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pe0f9fa51605f010e7a196fd471bb8ef3/e924bcea.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 9, 2007, 09:44 AM
Nice job on that. You should crank those out for the population at large. ;)

Got my Vintage and and cracked them open. All the figures are great. I really can't critique each one on specifics except for:

IG-88: Best. Figure. Ever.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Matt on June 9, 2007, 12:40 PM
here is a hood-up version I made since Hasbro refused to give us one  >:(

Hasbro wanted to give us one.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: AmanaMatt on June 9, 2007, 02:25 PM
Daigo-bahs custom rocks!

I wish Hasbro would do a mail away offer for this alternative head - I would pay shipping!

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/hothhan_MOCKUP.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Force Guy on June 9, 2007, 07:38 PM
Finally picked up a Bespin Luke last night at Wal-Mart.  They had several so it was cool to be able to pick the one with the best paint job.  Until last night, all I ever saw was the remnants of that wave at Target or TRU: Endor Leia & Hoth Han.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: David on June 9, 2007, 08:08 PM
Great custom, Daigo-Bah! I think that Han with hood up is gonna happen down the road, he'll probably end up in a battle pack, give it a year or so. I hope they make a blue-coat variation of this sculpt as well!
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Nicklab on June 10, 2007, 02:14 AM
here is a hood-up version I made since Hasbro refused to give us one  >:(

Hasbro wanted to give us one.

Maybe we can get a hood up version with a new tauntaun.  I think it's about time that Hasbro revisited that particular creature.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on June 10, 2007, 06:47 PM
I hope they make a blue-coat variation of this sculpt as well!

Why? It was brown in the movie.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 11, 2007, 12:23 AM
Here we go again.   ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Force Guy on June 11, 2007, 03:41 AM
It was brown in the movie.

Yes, just like Luke's lightsaber blade.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 11, 2007, 09:11 AM
here is a hood-up version I made since Hasbro refused to give us one  >:(

Hasbro wanted to give us one.

Maybe we can get a hood up version with a new tauntaun.  I think it's about time that Hasbro revisited that particular creature.

Agreed. Too bad they missed the boat for this year with the Luke/Wampa/TaunTaun BP.

What I don't get is why we'd get the "cap" version anyway since Han never really wore it independently of the hood on film.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on June 11, 2007, 09:41 AM
It might still be early, but I have noticed so far that this wave does seem more limited than last year's.  But, like I said, its still early.  With all the movie pushes this year (Spidey, Transformers, etc.) there might not be as much room to put out mass quantities of stuff like this right now.  I have continued to see these at Target and Wal-mart, but not many.  I believe our closest Target has 1 each of Luke, Leia, and Bossk.  Wal-mart had three of those "display" boxes full of them at one point, but this weekend all that was left was a single stack of the leftovers.  Leia is definitely the slowest seller here, followed by Hoth Han, and Bossk.  There is one or two Lukes here and there, and I haven't seen a Snowtrooper or IG-88 since the first time I found them.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 11, 2007, 10:34 AM
Thus far I'd say that's right on.

I've seen them - but they're not piling up anywhere save the one Wal-Mart that  has an endcap.

To put some more perspective on this, there is one Wal-Mart in this area that still has about 6 pegs JAMMED with Endor Hans and Tusken Raiders and Greedos.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Matt on June 11, 2007, 11:36 AM
I hope they make a blue-coat variation of this sculpt as well!

Why? It was brown in the movie.

Waitaminute, waitaminute, waitaminute.  It was brown?!?!?

Poppycock.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on June 11, 2007, 12:22 PM
The VTSC (including Snowtroopers) are currently in stock individually at HasbroToyShop.  If I hadn't bought so much recently, I'd totally place an order for a few more troopers.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Morgbug on June 11, 2007, 01:32 PM
The VTSC (including Snowtroopers) are currently in stock individually at HasbroToyShop.  If I hadn't bought so much recently, I'd totally place an order for a few more troopers.

Thanks Brian, I ordered 3, which brings my total up to 5 and I'm done.  Two from the case, when it eventually arrives and then these 3. 

This is the line that still makes sense for me to purchase out of the US.  On sale up here they are $10, regular $14.99 so just over $17 after taxes ::)  It's bloody ridiculous, considering the devaluation of the US dollar.  Ah well, it's done now.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Morgbug on June 14, 2007, 11:15 PM
So my box of these showed up from Newforce (shipping notice, who needs that?) and I popped them out of the box.  Since I'm in a pissy mood, I have a couple of questions, but some comments first.

They look really nice, I readily admit that.  I dig the vintage style cards and the cases are great.  The figures are, by and large, very well done.  I really like the snowtrooper and IG-88, both of which needed good sculpts done. 

But I'm not so sure we really needed the new versions of Bossk, Luke, Han and Leia.  Now don't get me wrong, I understand that Hasbro has quasi-plans of doing a sizable chunk of the vintage figures from Kenner in this style.  OK, got it, no surprise we're going to see those figures in somewhat short order. 

But here's my question: was anyone really, REALLY dying to get the four mentioned figures?  Didn't we just have relatively recent versions of all of these....
Leia in POTJ
Han on OTC?
Bossk OTC?
Luke on Saga1? 

Yes, I agree that they are all superior to their relatively recent predecessors but what's the point in holding onto their predecessors now (btw, does Luke's hand come off on the VTSC version?)  Didn't I just buy a blue and a brown coat Han not that long ago?  Didn't I buy 2-3 versions of Luke (bloody, metal peg, plastic peg)?  Is Leia all that much better than the General Leia figure with a TSC Endor Luke poncho slapped on her?  Did we need Bossk again so soon? 

I like them all and they are superior versions, but I'm kinda feeling "had" again by Hasbro here.  Why should I buy new figures in the standard line that are from the OT, aside from a wicked pack in?  I know the ultimate version is probably coming, at least if there's been a Kenner version in past, so why bother? 

Anyone else feeling this way, or am I being blasphemous fanboy again?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 14, 2007, 11:36 PM
I dunno - I wasn't sold on Bossk at first, but after grabbing one, he might be my favorite of the wave.

And the Han IMO is far superior to any Hoth Han we've gotten so far.

Leia and Luke, not a huge need, but (as I ramble on and on about) since I hope they make all of them, I'm perfectly okay with them mixing in some less exciting figures in with the troops and more exciting ones.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 15, 2007, 12:34 AM
I'm in the camp that, honestly, nothing short of what we got would've been satisfactory...

So for me, the Saga Hoth Han's always sucked and I've always said as much...  Same with Saga Bespin Luke.  Can't stand the pose on either figure, or the big tumor button on the back.  So I do find the articulation far superior and the sculpting...

The Bossk I'm probably biased on but again neither version of the figure previously was all that good by comparison...  The separate hoses, the articulation, etc.  IG-88's previous incarnations aren't even in the ballpark on accuracy...  The Snowtrooper has how many previous versions, and none hold up to this one again.

Leia, well...  I'm shocked anyone's actually happy with the POTJ figure and its massively odd crotch.  Again though I like the articulation...  I think the sculpt's vastly superior though.  If I have a complaint on her it's more that the poncho's a little large and not the greener shade it should be, and they just slapped the Endor Luke poncho on her...

I'm trying to feel less "had" too by keeping the Saga Hoth Han on my Taun-Taun for instance, or Bespin Luke is the only really damaged/post-battle Luke from Bespin so I'm keeping him hanging on his antenna.  Bossk...  eh, I'm retiring the others.  Same with IG-88 there, and Leia Endor.

I guess, to answer things in short...  Yes, I was really REALLY dying to get new versions, super articulated and detailed, of those characters.  And more yet...  Bespin Han, Hoth Luke, Hoth Leia, Zuckuss, Hoth Soldier... 

Not to say I'm happy with the vintage format being how we HAVE to get these...  If it is the only way we can, which it isn't, but when we do get them I like them...  If that makes any sense.  I'm happy with these, I'm happy to retire most previous incarnations...  I'd rather this than never to have gotten SA Hoth Han, SA Bespin Luke, SA Endor Leia, etc.  I really felt most of those were pretty piss poor toys.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Morgbug on June 15, 2007, 12:46 AM
Leia, well...  I'm shocked anyone's actually happy with the POTJ figure and its massively odd crotch. 

Well, I guess I'm just that oddball that spends remarkably little time looking at the crotch of an action figure, female or not. :-X
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 15, 2007, 01:25 AM
It's a big crotch...  seriously.  Male or female, 3.75" scale or 1:1...  it's big.  :-\
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Diddly on June 15, 2007, 01:26 AM
(btw, does Luke's hand come off on the VTSC version?)

Yes.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 15, 2007, 01:27 AM
Leia, well...  I'm shocked anyone's actually happy with the POTJ figure and its massively odd crotch. 

Well, I guess I'm just that oddball that spends remarkably little time looking at the crotch of an action figure, female or not. :-X

Too busy looking at the chests?
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 15, 2007, 02:11 AM
I think everyone would be thrilled with ALL of these if they are on regular cards and weren't costing us $10-$12 a pop.  I am beginning to hope that the vintage line only goes another wave or two, or takes a year off or something.

 :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 15, 2007, 09:11 AM
I'm with Rob in that I wasn't too thrilled about a new Bossk either, but like him, once I opened him, all doubts were laid to rest. I also think Luke and Han were both necessary; Luke being that the button is now gone and Han having a more neutral stance, both big pluses IMO. I'll let people have Leia in the argument of "was that one necessary," but I still think she came out really well.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: jedipurge on June 15, 2007, 01:08 PM
Leia definately neccary, in the the VTSC line not so much.  Hasbro usually rereleases these in some form or other wether in a pack like the 3po in the 30th Tin or modified to release on basic card, sandtrooper & removable helmet.  Although they're releasing Fett & Biker Scout on regular cards without any changes it seems.  With this new set what/how do you think we'll see these again?  Could they release IG-88 in the white version?  Han in blue coat with hood up?  Luke less mucky version? 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: David on June 15, 2007, 02:16 PM
White IG-88, Hood-up blue coat Han, Hood-up Brown Coat Han, Luke w/new headsculpt, Purple Bossk from POTJ Plo Koon factfile, Leia w/new heads (and smaller helmets) to be 'Female Rebel Soldier.' I'd buy those, well, maybe not a couple but especially white IG-88 and blue hood-up Han would be very cool.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Morgbug on June 15, 2007, 04:19 PM
Leia w/new heads (and smaller helmets) to be 'Female Rebel Soldier.'

Forgive me if this comes off sounding misogynistic, it's not meant to be.  Were there any female rebel soldiers in the movie(s)?  I ask because a)I don't want/need that figure if it wasn't in the movie(s) in the first place and b)there are so many other figures I'd rather see taking up space in cases and on the pegs.  That would be the next Naboo dude for certain, IMO. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 15, 2007, 05:29 PM
I don't remember seeing any female Rebels in the films, and I'm fine if they don't make any.  The only reason I'd even want one is because I like the snipers in Battlefront.

But, with how easy it's been to find VSTC Greedo and VSTC Han on clearance, I would think that Leia will suffer the same fate - meaning that if people want to make their own female Rebel Snipers from Battlefront, they'll probably get their chance pretty easily on the cheap.

 :P

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 15, 2007, 08:52 PM
Leia w/new heads (and smaller helmets) to be 'Female Rebel Soldier.'

Forgive me if this comes off sounding misogynistic, it's not meant to be.  Were there any female rebel soldiers in the movie(s)?  I ask because a)I don't want/need that figure if it wasn't in the movie(s) in the first place and b)there are so many other figures I'd rather see taking up space in cases and on the pegs.  That would be the next Naboo dude for certain, IMO. 

There's some debate on it...  I've seen a female Rebel Commando production still, however I've not seen her in the film.  I've also seen a female X-WIng pilot getting cockpit scenes shot in a still but obviously she got edited out...  The rebel soldier could've just been a costume production shot and nothing more with no scenes shot.

Either way I'd take a new head on the Leia figure as a sniper I guess, but in general I'm just happy with Endor Leia and leaving it at that.  Battlefront figures, at least what we've been shown of them, are pretty weak efforts from Hasbro generally.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: JangoTat on June 15, 2007, 09:11 PM
these are finally showing up in my area
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on June 15, 2007, 09:16 PM
The only female rebels I can think of are the console operators in Echo Base's command center, which are dressed similarly to Hoth Leia.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: DoctorPadawan on June 16, 2007, 07:50 PM
Don't know if this is the right place to put this, but I just wanted to give everyone a heads-up that my check for the 7 coins was cleared late last week.  I don't know if that means Hasbro's going to be shipping them out anytime soon, but when they cashed my Lucas check, it wasn't too long after that when the figure arrived.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: poddie on June 17, 2007, 02:24 AM
My quick take on these:

Bossk - Easily the best figure of the line.  NO flaws that I can see.  And yes, I wanted him bad... the previous versions were sculpted very nice but pretty lacking in articulation.

IG-88 - Kick butt again.  Nice height, amazing articulation.  I feel he's a little fragile for his own good (though this seems unavoidable given his build), and they screwed up the holster on his back (what the heck gun fits in this thing???  How did this get through?).  But overall I give him a 95 for all the articulation and coolness.

Snowtrooper - I haven't gotten an opener of this yet, so this is preliminary... but it looks very cool in the package.  I'm going to subtract just a bit for the clone head (this just bothers me for some reason).   Let's go with a 95.

Han - This should have been my favorite, but misses the mark a bit for a couple reasons.  First, they are absolutely nuts for not including the hood up head.  And the hat they did include is the most worthless piece of junk imaginable.  But thank god they at least put it off to the side in the bubble... that was really going to piss me off if he was useless for display in package because of the stupid hat.  I can get past those pretty easily if the rest is all good.  Unfortunately, the head has some paint issues on every one I've seen... I'm not usually too sensitive to head paint.  But Han looks like he's been using way too much eyeliner (makes him look oddly feminine), and I really don't like when the hairline paint is messed up and their scalp creeps up into their hair.  Still very nice on all other fronts.  I give him an 87.

Luke - Hmmmm... tough one.  Just doesn't really do it for me much.  I was really looking forward to this one.  Too thin, really bad head sculpt, and I don't like the color (specks) of his outfit.  Some strange looking joints (elbows and shoulders), though not too bad.  It's mainly the head and the almost nonexistent waist that kind of spoil this one for me.  I still appreciate the articulation, though.  80.

Leia - Couldn't care less about this one, and don't understand why she got lumped in with all the other Empire figs like this.  I would have much preferred a Hoth Leia.  Doesn't look too hot either... long neck and all.  I will say I really don't care if poncho colors are off though... that doesn't bother me at all.  I have not opened one of these... I'll go with a 70.  I just find it to be a strange choice.

Overall comments:

One of the things that seems strange to me is that there seems to be a lot of loose parts on these new ones (Bossk's neck roll, Han's hood, IG-88's bandoleer and tubes and whatnot).  I think I would prefer if most of these were actually glued down.  This is an easy fix of course, but it makes them hard to play with in the meantime or if you don't want to modify your figures.

I have no problem with the price premium.  I will gladly pay for the full package of articulation, and the chance to display in the vintage package for my non-openers.  I don't think they cheated on any this year with those damn swivel elbows (Sandperson, many of the original VOTC).  Good job... though Target's $12 price is a stretch.

Glad to see HTS has plenty of Snowtroopers.  My extras are on the way.

Love this line... let's see Luke Hoth, Leia Hoth, Han Bespin, 2-1B, Walrus Man, Gamorean Gaurd, Han Carbonite, and Luke Jedi.  I would dearly love a redone C-3PO and some of the others from the first batch on the wrong cards (like I want R2 on his Star Wars card), but I know those will never happen.  I can dream though...
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 17, 2007, 03:44 AM
Leia - Couldn't care less about this one, and don't understand why she got lumped in with all the other Empire figs like this.

If you count, there are now 8 figures on each different movie card.

I think they put out one ROTJ card just to even things out.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on June 17, 2007, 03:37 PM
I don't remember seeing any female Rebels in the films, and I'm fine if they don't make any.  The only reason I'd even want one is because I like the snipers in Battlefront.

But, with how easy it's been to find VSTC Greedo and VSTC Han on clearance, I would think that Leia will suffer the same fate - meaning that if people want to make their own female Rebel Snipers from Battlefront, they'll probably get their chance pretty easily on the cheap.

 :P



I have to agree with you Chewie.  I do really like the repo cardbacks.  But now that they basically made all of the main characters or iconic ones from the old cards like Luke, Han, Chewie, Leia, C-3PO, Fett, R2, Vader, all 3 imperial troopers, Greedo, etc. I am good with those.  I liked it because I was never going to pay the vintage prices for those figures carded.  But now that they are adding IG-88, Bossk, etc.  I just don't fell like paying $10-12 for them.  Especailly since we get the same quality in the $6 basic line for the most part.    I am sure as hell not paying $50-80 for 5-8 snowtroopers as kick as as they are.  I will get one packaged and 1 carded...if I ever find him that is. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 18, 2007, 11:35 AM
If you count, there are now 8 figures on each different movie card.

By my count it's:

8 - Star Wars (Han, Leia, Luke, Ben, X-Wing Luke, Tusken, Greedo, Lucas)
9 - Empire Strikes Bank (Vader, Yoda, Lando, 3PO, Bossk, Hoth Han, IG-88, Snowtrooper, Bespin Luke)
7 - Return of the Jedi (Chewie, R2, Fett, Stormtrooper, Scout, Endor Han, Endor Leia)

Maybe people count different in Texas?  :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on June 18, 2007, 02:04 PM
Whoops.   ::)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on June 20, 2007, 03:47 PM
Maybe people count different in Texas?  :P

They sure do in Florida during election years.  ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: jedipurge on June 20, 2007, 04:52 PM
Check your discount ailses at Target, just scored a snowtrooper @ 30% discount.  There were 3 figures Leia, IG, & Snowie.  They each had an orange Target tag on them: AS IS-REPACKAGE  WAS $11.99 NOW $8.41.  Of course the mail away was removed which is why I'm assuming it was discounted in the first place so if you're not interested in the coins in the first place or you're buying multiples be sure to bring it up to a manager and they might discount if the mail away is missing. I can wait on the others for a cheaper discount as with all the other Vintage collection they're sure to clearance but I couldn't resist the Snowie.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Madcow on July 11, 2007, 12:31 PM
My check for the coin redemption just went through today. I wonder how long til these start showing up...
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: 77Skywalker on July 13, 2007, 09:21 PM
The 30th anniversary collection vintage figures have shown up in my area.  I already have IG-88, Bespin Luke, and Endor Leia.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 13, 2007, 09:55 PM
Target discount at $8.41 is everywhere, I am glad I bought these at Wal-Mart for $10 and not Target high $12 price. I will buy more when they are $5 and below.............
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Diddly on July 14, 2007, 01:06 AM
The only figures left at Target are Luke, Leia, and a bunch of Hans. I've yet to see any Vinty figs at Wal-Mart yet.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 14, 2007, 01:42 AM
My WM I hit fairly frequently keeps restocking them routinely, while others are pretty bogged with the entire wave...  Snowies of course go first, but I've seen no less of the Snowie than I did of the Scout, so I think Hasbro was blowing a bit of smoke on the numbers for these.

JACKOFTRADEZ, if you happen upon anything on clearance for that $5, remember me man.  I'd take just about anything for custom fodder, it's all great stuff to me. :)

My Target stores are pretty cleared out of VTAC stuff now though after that first clearance round...  Pegs were bare last I was there. :(  So I'm guessing my chances of scoring clearance deals on vintage are dwindling in my area.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Ryan on July 14, 2007, 10:41 PM
I still have yet to see these on Clearance at Targets. There are three arond here I hit fiarly frequently and I don't see much of anything. The Wal-Marts around here got one shippment of 6-8 cases in that sold out almost instantly. Since then I haven't even really seen them there. They do however still have at least 30 Endor Hans, and 30 Greedos at full price though...
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on July 16, 2007, 09:19 AM
These haven't hit clearance here yet that I've seen.  I'm pretty happy with what I have so far, but I'd probably pick up a few extras for the right price.  Its funny for how well done and anticipated these figures are (myself included), they really seem to end up hitting clearance a lot lately.  Of course, Target is pretty swift with their clearances it seem - which I guess is good, since Wal-Mart and TRU seem to be content to sit on product for years sometimes.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Xander on July 16, 2007, 02:37 PM
They're on clearance around here, starting at $8 and change.  Haven't seen any Snowtroopers, but one Target has plenty of everything else.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: darth punkinhed on July 16, 2007, 03:03 PM
I saw these Saturday at Target on clearance and managed to snag 5 snowtroopers and 1 each of the remaining figs. I told myself after the last run that I wasn't going to pick this up first thing and wait for a clearance. I kept thinking I'd run into a set on clearance and sure enough I did.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on July 16, 2007, 03:04 PM
Saw these on clearance yesterday (all but the Snowtrooper). Kinda wish I had waited but oh well.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 21, 2007, 01:25 AM
I took a few pics of another Luke I have in a running on Cloud City pose  :grin:.  Note that the belt is pulled down somewhat, and his blaster is snugly in his hand.  I did alter the saber a bit, by cutting off the blade, super-gluing it to his belt, and I even painted the little red button and more black on the grips!

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p972ca3157dbd0826598010322c7339d9/e87d0115.jpg)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pabdab2f36280308285370ac2793e87af/e87d00e9.jpg)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pfd29841529236c22395ae2ed8210de61/e87d00a7.jpg)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 21, 2007, 09:34 AM
Looks like the coins are starting to arrive on doorsteps. I know that the checks for both of my sets have been cashed, so it shouldn't be long for me.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Ice on July 21, 2007, 06:11 PM
My came today in the MAIL! ;D
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 23, 2007, 10:10 AM
Rumor has it that the vintage line is off Targets upcoming plan-o-gram.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on July 23, 2007, 10:33 AM
I guess that makes sense, with them being on clearance in a number of places already (although not here yet).  I will say, at least from what I've seen locally so far, that these were produced in smaller numbers than last year's wave.  I can't say there is more than 5-10 vintage figures in any store around here, and most of them only have a few.  I haven't seen a Snowtrooper or IG-88 at retail in some time, its usually Han and Leia, sometimes accompanied by Luke or Bossk.  Sort of a short-lived line this year, if Target takes it out for the next reset (in August?).  That doesn't mean that TRU or Wal-Mart will do the same though I guess, but many seem to have gotten their fill outside of Snowtroopers at this point.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Vator on July 23, 2007, 01:11 PM
I caught these for the first time last week in Chicago (Target @ South Loop), but did not purchase them. No Snowtroopers whatsoe'er = No Good whatsoe'er.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Morgbug on July 23, 2007, 01:19 PM
So did Hasbro tell the truth when they said the vintage figures were being produced in lower numbers this time around?  Plenty of US locations are seeing clearance prices while some are pretty sparse and they don't seem to have been super abundant anywhere.  They've barely hit at all in Canada (and the only retailer to really carry them, TRU, is deeply scarred by all the previous wave they still have sitting around). 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 23, 2007, 02:23 PM
I'd say unless they ship more it's true Brent, I know our WalMarts got a mass quantity only once; they sold out quick with no reship. Target's strategy is different though they stock smaller amounts at a time and of course, they will put anything on clearance after a few months..it's their way. Keep in mind too, that Target had the highest initial price on these (before they clearanced them) which would help explain them still having some quantity to clear out.  I remember last year though there was another surge reshipment of these around August/September that caused even WM to clearance them.

So unless more are shipped what Hasbro is saying could be true.     
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 23, 2007, 02:25 PM
I know for a fact I mailed off for my coinage ealier than a lot of folks that got theirs mailed out, yet they've already received coins and I haven't....getting worried :(.

DS   
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 23, 2007, 02:42 PM
I am waiting for Target to drop their price even further that 8.86 before I pick up some custom fodder. Everyone but Snowtrooper are on hand. I bought 11 and wish I picked up more. I found 2 on clearance but that was it. I think this will get another round of ship to TRU & Wal-Mart. Hasbro said they were shipping cases with 6 Snowtroopers this may be their round 2 ship. Target has a tendency to order then drop lines and companies are left to scramble to sell what the forecast was. we may yet see more of these....
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on July 23, 2007, 03:39 PM
Keep an eye out then, the ones by me are down to $5.98 - as of the other day they had everything other than the Snowtrooper.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: JohnH on July 23, 2007, 07:35 PM
Ours are the same, and I usually seen everyone but the Snowtrooper and maybe IG-88.  The other four (particularly Leia) are everywhere.

Got my coins in the mail today, too.  :)

John
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2007, 08:47 PM
Man, I'd love to get really any of them at that price.  Many Target stores around here cleared out with the first round of clearances and not a single VTAC to be seen.  :-\
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Xander on July 25, 2007, 12:04 PM
They restocked the pegs again, so I did get a Snowtrooper yesterday, but still at 8.69. I'll look again next week and see if they're down further.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: ruiner on July 25, 2007, 01:56 PM
Quick question in regards to the coin mailaway promo - do you have to send in six different figure tabs (one each from the six different figures) or can it be any combination of the vintage six?

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jayson on July 25, 2007, 02:00 PM
All the 07 stickers are the same.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 25, 2007, 02:17 PM
I wonder if you can send in '06 stickers and get it?  I got some clearance Han's and may try that.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: jedipurge on August 2, 2007, 03:02 PM
Yes clearance @ $2.98, finally picked up the whole wave- Snowtroops, but I did pick 4 of them up at full price.  Time to go see if they'll give some money back since I hadn't opened them yet and I still have the reciept. 

Digging bossk, I think I might army build him and just switch out some feet for boots, lizard arms for sleeved/gloved arms, and head for helmet. @ 2.98 You can't beat it.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 2, 2007, 03:40 PM
The few I fing (Han/Leia) are still $8.63!
I will have to expand my target search..........at $3.00 I would buy IG' Bossks and Snows.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 3, 2007, 09:33 AM
Some of my Targets by-passed half off and went directly to $3. Too bad none of them have stocked a new case in over a month. I'm still short 4 Snowtroopers. :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on August 3, 2007, 01:29 PM
I checked our Target this morning hoping to find some clearanced VTSC, but no go.  They did re-set the aisle, but I didn't see anything in the clearance areas from SW.  I didn't really know if I would, they seemed to be nearly sold out at full price last week anyways.  Its too bad though, I definitely would have picked up some extras at $3 or so.  Heck, I'd have gotten some if they had seen the $6-something clearance here.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: speedermike on August 3, 2007, 02:25 PM
Het guys, I don't mean to be a downerr, but by waiting for these to go into clearance, you are giving Hasbro the notion that you don't want 10.00 figures.  If that's the point you're trying to make, then I'm all for it.  However, if you really like these figures and the packaging, you should pay full price and send a message of approval.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: iFett on August 3, 2007, 02:29 PM
Target is eating the loss.  They've already paid Hasbro what they asked for.  It's not Hasbro's fault that Target puts everything on clearance a month after its release.  Besides, Target was over-charging for these to begin with.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on August 3, 2007, 05:15 PM
I kind of agree with iFett on that Mike, but at the same time Hasbro does take note on what's selling and what isn't...  But I also feel it's good to send TARGET a message and not buy there at full price, when they clearly were gouging to get an extra couple $'s out of the collectors on that line.

WM on the other hand is selling through multiple cases at $10, so I think Hasbro's seeing that these sell, and I'm sure they also see that Target shot itself in the foot by jacking up their prices over their competition.  To me this is 100% Target's fault and i don't blame anyone for waiting on them there.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on August 10, 2007, 09:02 AM
It is odd that Target would mark them all the way down to $3.  Granted they will certainly sell at that price.  But geez from $12 down to $3?  That is a really deep discount for something that has only been out a couple months.  Plus it's lower than the standard $7 they charge for basic figures.  Oh well, can't complain if you find them for that low of a price. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 10, 2007, 09:18 AM
I don't know about you guys, but it looks like my WM's are clearing these things out as well. Problem is, my three stores have only gotten in one case each so far.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on August 10, 2007, 09:26 AM
I don't know how it has been in other areas of the country, but this wave of vintage figures was definitely more "rare" than the last go round.  I think our Wal-Mart just go the one shipment as well, and has only one Leia remaining for several weeks now.  Target even sold through at the higher price, and I never saw them hit clearance here.  TRU has a couple on the pegs (again, Leias I believe), but outside of that, I don't think there are any of these in town at this point.  I can't complain, as I was able to pick up the entire wave, and there doesn't seem to be a major pegwarming situation.  They seemed to have done better with the ratios/shipping this time around, at least from what I've seen people reporting.  Everyone is basically finding what they want for the most part, and there doesn't seem to be a major glut of these piling up anywhere.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 10, 2007, 09:32 AM
I can agree with that assesment. These are even moving at TRU, and our TRU's are getting a lot. In fact that's the place that I'm holding out that I can get the last 2 Snowtroopers I need.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on August 10, 2007, 09:59 AM
I haven't seen a Snowtrooper in weeks around here.  I'm 1 short of 24, so I'd like to find one more.  Targets have all clearanced their stuff out.  I don't see them at Wal-Marts.  TRU has them, but only the other 4.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Brian on August 10, 2007, 10:01 AM
Yeah, the Snowtroopers have definitely been the toughest to find - not surprisingly.  I saw them the first couple times these showed up at retail, but not much after that.  IG-88 was actually about as difficult to find here.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on August 10, 2007, 02:05 PM
I still see one here and there at WM but it's definitely not something in abundance, and unless the WM got a lot of vintage in they tend not to have any at all.  TRU I'm rarely at anymore to even check but the last time I was they didn't have any...  My Target stores were devoid of vintage after the first round of clearances, haha. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Diddly on August 10, 2007, 04:38 PM
A local Wal-Mart has tons of every figure except for the Snowtrooper. They're on a huge endcap with tons of the Coin Albums and I Am Your Father's Day packs. They even threw in all the Endor Hans and Greedos from last year onto the pegs. I laughed at that whole endcap.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on August 10, 2007, 10:13 PM
My one WM has a ton too, and we too have Han/Greedo mixed in, and even a Sandperson, all for $9.96 Clearance prices, but now mixed into the regular V30AC.  And yes, that's no typo there...  $9.96 is the listed clearance price. 
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: JangoTat on August 10, 2007, 10:52 PM
My one WM has a ton too, and we too have Han/Greedo mixed in, and even a Sandperson, all for $9.96 Clearance prices, but now mixed into the regular V30AC.  And yes, that's no typo there...  $9.96 is the listed clearance price. 

wow. those go for $5 CDN up north :) the Sandpeople are history now... and Han is getting harder to find...greedo on the other hand...well there cant be a wall of yellow without the wall of green at any TRU  ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 11, 2007, 09:16 AM
My one WM has a ton too, and we too have Han/Greedo mixed in, and even a Sandperson, all for $9.96 Clearance prices, but now mixed into the regular V30AC.  And yes, that's no typo there...  $9.96 is the listed clearance price. 

That happens way too often, we have that around here for basic figures. There has to be something intentionally misleading about that.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on August 12, 2007, 03:31 AM
I agree...  I find it to be a very deceptive tactic used by individual managers (personal opinion of the matter anyway), that they'll slap clearance stickers on something with minimal, or even no real price difference, and just move the product to a new area (clearance aisle or the "random crap we don't have on the plan-o-gram aisle some WM's go with).  The whole thing's frustrating since I know better too, but really there is a certain level of deception there whether it was intended or not.  You see that tag, you expect at least a $1 off the figure, but not out my way.

Now one Wally does have Han's/Greedo's at $5...  That's one out of at least a half dozen I visit semi-routinely though, and of that half dozen I'd say 4 of them still have VTSC figures they're sitting on.

To me though, the simple fact they have clearance tags, were in a clearance aisle, and still got put back into the V30AC displays tells me there was some intent there to deceive and now they just figure they can slip it all back into the new stuff since the price isn't any different.
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Rob on August 12, 2007, 10:50 AM
There is one Wal-Mart in this area that has had about 20 Moff Jerjerrod on "clearance" for $6.63 for the last year.

Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jayson on February 14, 2011, 07:53 AM
Glad you liked them Steve. And as for Walrusman, I think it be cool if along with the normal hands (that can hold a weapon), they include a set of flipper hands as well.

FTW!  ;)
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Greg on February 14, 2011, 08:50 AM
Someone's got some great insight. You could be the new "Stan"!  :P
Title: Re: 30AC "Vintage" Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 14, 2011, 04:01 PM
Someone's got some great insight. You could be the new "Stan"!  :P

pwned!!!111