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Title: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Matt on June 24, 2011, 10:07 AM
Sounds like the Lakers may have a new name on the roster for next season: Metta World Peace (http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6698183)
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: King_Maul on June 24, 2011, 11:03 AM
Hopefully he won't have another flagrant foul or climb into the stands otherwise it might be peace out.

His jersey will remind me of the XFL jerseys.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 18, 2011, 08:38 PM
Hopefully he won't have another flagrant foul or climb into the stands otherwise it might be peace out.


Um, hopefully he DOES climb into the stands.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on December 8, 2011, 08:40 PM
Looks like CP3 is going to the Lakers.  And, the Lakers can still attempt to trade Bynum for Dwight Howard.  Yikes!
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 8, 2011, 10:24 PM
The Paul trade was struck down by Stern.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on December 8, 2011, 11:52 PM
The Paul trade was struck down by Stern.

I saw that.  Wow.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Rob on December 9, 2011, 11:29 AM
Sort of feel like there could be conflict of interest, and too much power in the league front office if they're striking down trades that teams are agreeing to.  I don't like the idea of the league owning a team.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 9, 2011, 11:49 AM
Sort of feel like there could be conflict of interest, and too much power in the league front office if they're striking down trades that teams are agreeing to.  I don't like the idea of the league owning a team.

I don't see what the problem is with the trade itself.  The Lakers were going to give up Pau Gasol and Odom.  That's totally fine in terms of talent for talent.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on December 9, 2011, 01:46 PM
Sort of feel like there could be conflict of interest, and too much power in the league front office if they're striking down trades that teams are agreeing to.  I don't like the idea of the league owning a team.

I don't see what the problem is with the trade itself.  The Lakers were going to give up Pau Gasol and Odom.  That's totally fine in terms of talent for talent.

I agree, plus the Hornets were actually making out pretty well on the deal.  From the sound of things, a few of the small-market owners complained (i.e. Dan Gilbert of the Cleveland Cavaliers) and demanded that the trade be vetoed.  Seeing that every owner technically has a 1/29th ownership stake in the Hornets, they felt like they had a say .... even though they all decided back when the league took over the team that the Hornets' GM would have all the say in making trade and operating decisions for the team.  Apparently not.

Here's Gilbert's letter to David Stern:

Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn't appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don't see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise...

Dan G.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Rob on December 9, 2011, 05:41 PM
Paul's walking in July anyway, and then the Hornets don't get anything for him.

Someone needs to reverse the decision.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 10, 2011, 01:03 AM
Dan Gilbert is such a loser.  Maybe the Cavs fans should take a vote to force him to sell his team, so maybe they'll win a game sometime this year.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: McMetal on December 10, 2011, 01:08 PM
Whatever, I love it.

People have been giving away HOF talent to the Lakers long enough. Damn right put your foot down. They never should have gotten Gasol in the first place, that was a ridiculously unfair trade.

It's like all these stupid GM's just want to roll over and and hand LA the trophy every year just to improve their bottom line.

Competitive balance around the league just makes things better all around.

War Dwight Howard re-signing with the Magic!

Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on December 15, 2011, 09:33 AM
Looks like CP3 ended up going to LA after all.   ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 15, 2011, 11:58 AM
Such garbage.  There wasn't anyone given up the caliber of Pau Gasol.  I probably won't even watch this sport this year
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on December 15, 2011, 02:40 PM
Remember that Gasol was going to the Rockets in the initial trade.  The league was concerned with the players/draft picks that the Hornets would be receiving.  I didn't share their concern considering the players New Orleans were set to get, but they are making out pretty well on this trade.  Kaman is a solid big man when he's healthy, and Eric Gordon is an absolute stud.
As far as watching the NBA, this makes me want to watch it even more.  CP3 and Griffin are two of my favorite players.  Having them on the same team is going to be awesome. 
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 15, 2011, 02:46 PM
It might be a bit of a stretch to call Eric Gordon an "absolute stud" at this point.  http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4469 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4469)  He is an above average player at this point.

Absolute studs include Dirk Nowitzki, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul.  Guys like that.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Ryan on December 16, 2011, 05:12 AM
I really wish the NBA wouldn't have had a season. I think I'm going to boycott the sort this year. My fiancee is going to want to watch the Nuggets but I'm going to pass. I'll probably get tempted around playoff time, but what's the point if they are just going to lose in the first round anyways? ::)
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Scott on December 16, 2011, 11:14 AM
Depending on how the Wolves do, the pick included in that trade will probably be top 5
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 1, 2012, 08:36 AM
Someone is going to need to explain to me why Kevin love is 6' 10" and can rip down 15 boards a night, but cannot block a shot.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: ruiner on January 13, 2012, 02:29 PM
He can block out but not jump?
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: I Am Sith on January 21, 2012, 09:13 PM
Sorry to invade the thread, but I need to rant for a minute.  Since the beginning of the year, DirectTV has been blacking out the Bulls games on Comcast Sports Net Chicago (one of my Regional Sports Networks along with Fox Sports North).  So I called them a couple times and they couldn't explain to me why this was happening (I did see the games that were played between Christmas and New Years Day on CSN).  The only thing they could say was that it must be a local blackout.  Tonight I called one last time to get things straightened out because I really wanted to watch the game with my sons who have just started playing basketball.  After about 45 minutes on the phone with them having to talk to several people, they informed me that the NBA is no longer allowing DirectTV to include the Bulls as one of my Regional sports teams.  Therefore, I will no longer get any Bulls game on CSN Chicago, but I will continue to still get the Blackhawks, White Sox and Cubs games that are played on CSN because those are still included as one of my regional teams.  Oh, and because I'm getting FSN, I still get Brewers, Bucks and Wild games.  So basically, I'm getting every team that plays in the tri-state area with the exception of the Bulls because the pricks in the NBA think it's better to make their fans buy League Pass than broadcast regional games.  Great way to keep your fan base during a year where you are already suffering with your image NBA.

Again, my apologies for the rant, now back to your regularly scheduled discussion...
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 22, 2012, 07:20 AM

Again, my apologies for the rant, now back to your regularly scheduled discussion...

We really weren't having one.


My advice is to call DirectTV back one more time and tell them to come to your house and pick up their ****, and cancel your service.

Then sign up for cable or another dish network that carries the games.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on January 31, 2012, 09:51 AM
Anyone see these over the last two days?  Wow!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/400508_10150552197778463_8245623462_9062450_2045323734_n.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Brian on January 31, 2012, 11:23 AM
Both were just ridiculous.  Blake Griffin's was my favorite of the two though.  As someone who spent countless hours watching and practicing dunks with my buddy in HS/college, these are two of the better ones I've ever seen I think.  It is crazy what some of these guys can do these days.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 31, 2012, 06:29 PM
Agreed.  Amazing things happen when you are between 6' 8" and 6' 10" and on performance enhancing drugs.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Brian on February 2, 2012, 02:16 PM
Agreed.  Amazing things happen when you are between 6' 8" and 6' 10" and on performance enhancing drugs.

True, true.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Scott on March 8, 2012, 04:43 PM
(http://images.publicradio.org/content/2012/01/25/20120125_kevinlove_33.jpg)

Starting to feel the howl in my throat again...playoffs?!?!???!
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 11, 2012, 09:33 AM
Scott no sooner did you say that, Rubio tears his ACL.

Playoffs next year.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: McMetal on March 11, 2012, 01:27 PM
First thing I thought about when I saw "Rubio tears ACL" on the sports ticker was that post above. Ouch.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Rob on April 23, 2012, 04:13 PM
I'm beyond sick of Meta World Peace's (  ::) ) antics.

Can we just suspend that jagoff for the rest of the year?
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 23, 2012, 07:25 PM
I'm beyond sick of Meta World Peace's (  ::) ) antics.

Can we just suspend that jagoff for the rest of the year?

It has been tried on him already.

Somehow I got through the entire day without hearing a single mention of the irony of "World Peace" being written on the back of his jersey.

That is just too good to be true.

Watching reruns of the 2004 "Malice at the Palace" event hosted by Ron Artest which was the greatest brawl in sports history.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: McMetal on April 28, 2012, 07:00 PM
So who will be meeting the Heat in the Finals now?  ;)

Sucks when all playoff suspense is eliminated on the first day of the playoffs after 2 games and one freak injury.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Sprry75 on April 29, 2012, 11:42 AM
So who will be meeting the Heat in the Finals now?  ;)

It will be the Jazz.  ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 29, 2012, 05:56 PM
Obviously it won't be the Jazz.

So it's Lakers/OKC/or San Antonio vs. the Heat.

I will not be able to stomach LeBron winning a championship.  Someone needs to stop this.  It won't be the East most likely, so probably Durant and Westbrook are our only shot.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Rob on April 29, 2012, 07:13 PM
I will not be able to stomach LeBron winning a championship.  Someone needs to stop this.  It won't be the East most likely, so probably Durant and Westbrook are our only shot.

Agreed on all counts.  If by some Miracle the Mavs get back this year, they won't be able to stop Miami again.

OKC is our best hope.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on April 29, 2012, 09:40 PM


OKC is our best hope.

"Only a fool's hope."

 ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 11, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jesus. H. Christ

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/chris-birdman-andersen-under-investigation-internet-child-pornography-021843585.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/chris-birdman-andersen-under-investigation-internet-child-pornography-021843585.html)
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2012, 07:57 PM
 :-X

That's really too bad. I hope that this is some kind of mistake and that he isn't guilty of anything that division could be investigating. Andersen, while always a bit annoying, was kind of a feel good story since his comeback. It seemed like he was really trying to turn his life around. More than that obviously I'd hope this isn't true for the sake of any children potentially involved in all of this.

It would be pretty disgusting and vile if any of the possible allegations against him are true. As it stands the whole situation is really disappointing.

Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on May 17, 2012, 09:37 AM
I will not be able to stomach LeBron winning a championship.  Someone needs to stop this.  It won't be the East most likely, so probably Durant and Westbrook are our only shot.

Agreed on all counts.  If by some Miracle the Mavs get back this year, they won't be able to stop Miami again.

OKC is our best hope.

Or just an injury to Chris Bosh.  No Bosh, no title.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Rob on May 17, 2012, 10:34 AM
How long is he supposed to be out for?
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: McMetal on May 17, 2012, 12:22 PM
Miami doesn't need Bosh to win the East, but they will need him to win the Championship. I think he is supposed to be back by then.

I am rooting HARD for OKC right now. For the past 15 years ago it has become a tradition that I cannot officially start watching the NBA playoffs until the Lakers are eliminated.

Once those sh*tbags are out of the conversation, I can enjoy the games.  :)
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 18, 2012, 06:33 AM
Miami doesn't need Bosh to win the East, but they will need him to win the Championship. I think he is supposed to be back by then.


Uh, I think Indiana is actually going to take care of Miami right now.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on May 18, 2012, 09:34 AM
Miami doesn't need Bosh to win the East, but they will need him to win the Championship. I think he is supposed to be back by then.


Uh, I think Indiana is actually going to take care of Miami right now.

Agreed.  It's obvious that Wade is hurting, Bosh is out, Rio (who played GREAT last night) messed up his wrist, and their shooters can't throw it in the ocean right now.  LeBron is awesome, but he can't do it alone. 
I think the Spurs win the title.  And, if by some miracle they get beat, whoever beats them (I'm looking at you, OKC) will win it all.  The East doesn't have a chance at this point.
Here's to 2013.  I guess.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: McMetal on May 22, 2012, 09:27 AM
Mad love to the OKC Thunder for ousting the hated Fakers. Now it's time for some basketball!

Thunder/Spurs is going to be a helluva series. That is your real Finals right there.

Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: McMetal on May 25, 2012, 11:41 AM
Uh, I think Indiana is actually going to take care of Miami right now.

I blame the media for making everyone think the Pacers had a shot and Wade was on his last legs. Neither of those things appear to be remotely true.

Just hope we get Boston/Heatles again because the prepubescent Sixers will just be happy to be there and not give them much of a fight.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: McMetal on June 7, 2012, 09:33 AM
What I wish would happen:

BOS over OKC
OKC over BOS
OKC over MIA

What I fear is going to happen:

MIA over OKC

Come on, Celtics!
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on June 7, 2012, 10:06 AM
I'm a huge Heat fan, and I just don't see them winning in Boston tonight.  They look like they've already given up.  I REALLY hope I'm wrong, but I just don't think they collectively have the heart.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Rob on June 7, 2012, 10:24 AM
Even if they manage to advance, they're just going to get to repeat last year, outmatched by a team from the west.  If OKC can win 4 straight against the Spurs, they can beat Miami.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Morgbug on June 7, 2012, 11:04 PM
I'm a huge Heat fan, and I just don't see them winning in Boston tonight.  They look like they've already given up.  I REALLY hope I'm wrong, but I just don't think they collectively have the heart.

Whoops. 
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on June 8, 2012, 10:35 AM
I'm a huge Heat fan, and I just don't see them winning in Boston tonight.  They look like they've already given up.  I REALLY hope I'm wrong, but I just don't think they collectively have the heart.

Whoops.

I'm very glad I was wrong.  LeBron put on a performance for the ages last night.  They may need him to do it again to win Game 7.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Rob on June 8, 2012, 10:41 AM
I'm very glad I was wrong.  LeBron put on a performance for the ages last night.  They may need him to do it again to win Game 7.

Lebron had a huge game, but 'performance for the ages' is a little strong IMO.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on June 8, 2012, 01:48 PM
The numbers he put up last night have only happened one other time in NBA playoff history ... and that was 48 years ago.  Plus, it was an elimination game on the road.  I've been watching NBA basketball for over 30 years, and it's one of the best playoff performances I've ever seen, especially given the circumstances.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Rob on June 21, 2012, 09:23 PM
I'm starting to think Basketball has become a game where to be the best, you have to master the art of slamming yourself into defenders while making layups at the same time.

Seriously, I don't watch too much Basketball until the Playoffs come around, but Wade and LeBronBron just run into dudes, flip the ball in the air, and collect the easy free throws. 

Good for them, but it seems really obnoxious to me.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Ryan on June 22, 2012, 03:22 AM
Well there's that, and then when you are the best 95% of any close calls go your way.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 22, 2012, 10:55 AM
I don't like basketball anyway.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Brian on June 22, 2012, 11:44 AM
I'm starting to think Basketball has become a game where to be the best, you have to master the art of slamming yourself into defenders while making layups at the same time.

Seriously, I don't watch too much Basketball until the Playoffs come around, but Wade and LeBronBron just run into dudes, flip the ball in the air, and collect the easy free throws. 

Good for them, but it seems really obnoxious to me.

That was my biggest problem with things too.  It goes to years back, I used to be a big fan of Wade's, and then there was that first Finals against Dallas.  He basically just did that (ramming in at full speed, making free throws) for the entire series, and hasn't looked back.  Plus, he's picked up Kobe's annoying habit of scowling nonstop and trying to look like a bad ass.

I'm probably in the minority, but LeBron doesn't bother me that much.  Sure, his way of leaving Cleveland was pretty crappy, but at least he's admitted to that since then and has pretty much seemed like the model player all season.  The rest of the Heat team annoys me to no end though, and I can see why some have problems with James too as he is so overpowering sometimes.

Add in the fact that I've become a big fan of the Thunder over the past few years.  I like that their team has pretty much been built with their own draft picks, the crowd is so supportive and their enthusiasm is infectious.  If they keep things together, they'll have more chances, but it is disappointing they couldn't pull things out (or at least made a series of things).
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Spirit of MAC on July 4, 2012, 02:54 AM
Anyone still following hoops in the offseason?  I was pretty surprised to see D-Will re-sign with the Nets tonight, despite their acquisitions of (overrated) Joe Johnson and Gerald Wallace.  I figured he'd only stick around if they locked up Dwight Howard, which sounds a bit less likely now.  It's gonna be interesting to see where the big guy winds up now, if anywhere.  If the Nets somehow pull off a miracle swap for him still, that could make the East pretty interesting next year.  I'm praying the Heat don't land Ray Allen as well.  LeBron finally won a championship in large part to their outside shooting in the Finals, so adding Allen into the mix makes me nervous, even if Mike Miller retires.  Sounds like the Celts may nab Jason Terry if Ray Allen bolts, which would finally revitalize their bench.  Odom finding his way back to L.A. should give the Clips bench a big boost too, assuming he's back to being of sound mind of course.  I'm still waiting to see if the Wolves can make a play for Pau too.  He'd be a good fit alongside Love and Rubio, though having two of those "soft" Spaniards on the same team could be trouble.

I'm starting to think Basketball has become a game where to be the best, you have to master the art of slamming yourself into defenders while making layups at the same time.

I can't stand this element of the game nowadays either, especially as it relates to LeBron and a few others.  Fortunately he didn't aggravate me as much as usual during the Finals, as he managed to do a good amount of damage from outside of 3 feet (and the free throw line) for a change.  That, and all the ridiculous flopping and flailing after every jumpshot - just pathetic.
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on July 6, 2012, 11:47 PM
Welcome to South Beach, Ray.  :D

(http://p.twimg.com/AxKu_IgCQAAkx4g.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Scott on July 7, 2012, 12:40 AM
Think Brandon Roy has anything left?  I don't...ugh
Title: Re: NBA 2011-2012
Post by: Neal on July 7, 2012, 09:16 AM
Think Brandon Roy has anything left?  I don't...ugh

If his knees can hold up; yes.  Of course, that's a huge "if", but he's an All-Star caliber player, he's young, and he took last season off.  If they manage his minutes and the fan base's expectations, he could be a huge asset.  I like what they're doing in Minnesota.  And Kevin Love is one of my favorite players not wearing a Heat jersey.