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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Poodle Hat
« on: June 20, 2003, 08:00 PM »
Getting to a Best Buy for me is non-existant, so I've not picked it up yet, but while I don't buy many CD's anymore I will DEFINATELY be getting PH as soon as I can drag myself into a BB.

I'm just lazy I guess...  I've downloaded a song or two though and they're classic Al.  There's a guy that doesn't lose a step...  Thank god SOMEONE can stay consistently good.

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No details...  It just made for good classroom discussion.

We had "Smart classrooms" with overhead interactive technology...

Basically, we could go online via a large projection on the lecture room's eraser boards, and could interact with websites by touching the projection.  Pretty neat little thing, so we actually logged into (rebelscum at the time) forums and browsed about various topics.  My prof asked if anyone knew of any good topics online we'd like to discuss and nobody answered of course, so I volunteered rebelscum's forums and the myriad of arguments and fights it had.

A few of my assignments then were based on various topics from the forums then...  Of my own choosing. ;D

The political debate(s), I can attest, got a lot of reaction from the crowd, and the most laughter.  

The class was mostly women, for those curious about that, age 19 to 21.  There were maybe 10 guys total, about the same age, then a woman in her late 30's and myself were the oldest in the class...  Surprisingly, nobody was made fun of for being a Star Wars "geek"...  Shocked me I know.

The topics discussed were NOT relegated to Wuher's though, and came from all over the forums.  Wuher's of course got the majority of the interest though.

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OK, I'll go with mine here now... (And in no particular order)

1) EDIT: I'm dumping the 2nd Rancor Keeper for Hermi Odle...  He's so cool cuz he drools.  He's only behind Trandoshans in overall sex appeal, cuz the ladies truly love da Trandoshans...  Hermi's nice though, and eats apples.

2) Sgt. Doalynn (and if the uniforms are similar, I'd like to see a variant where one is the black uniform deco, and the other is the cream with a stripe uniform deco)

3) Dresellian Commando (No Eyepatch)

4) Rebel Crewman (Brown uniforms, shortbrimmed hats withi yellow emblem)

5) A-Wing Pilot with Removeable Helmet (Human)

6) B-Wing PIlot with Removeable Helmet (Human)

7) Han Solo, Endor (With removeable trench coat, good articulation, and NO STUPID POSE or ACTION FEATURE)

8 ) Imperial Officer ( multiple head variants that include Moff Jerjerrod, Admiral Piett, and a non-descript officer...  Also multiple color variants which include grey and black uniforms, and removeable hats...  An ultimate army builder).

9) Ewok Army Builder...  (Teebo's body packed with multiple hood and weapon variations...  Each body a different color with some striped/multi-colored Ewoks also.  Weapons include stone axe, spear, and bow/arrow sets)

10) Lando General Pilot resculpt (with cloth cape, good poseability, NO stupid action pose, and a functioning holster)

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I actually used things from the forums last semester in my EN112...   Made for good topics to argue and debate.  Some were just to show a point of view being argued poorly by an individual(s).  My class focussed on argumentative writing, so it made for good topics sometimes.

It was funny because people and topics were being discussed at length, and they had no clue...  Like being studied like labrats.   ;D

My ex used to love watching me type in the forums too, and would just laugh away while I replied to different topics...  She was always supportive of my habits and hobby.  :)  Hell she still is after we've broken up cuz I'll sometimes get a call or email letting me know she found something cheap and picked it up for me!  

Can't knock that kind of devotion.

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Saga '02-'04 / Re: What 2003 SAGA product are you still missing?
« on: June 20, 2003, 03:38 AM »
Ah hell, I forgot about stuff like the deluxe...

I do need the Spider Droid, SBD Builder, the 2 Speederbikes, and the Kamino Deluxe figures too...  

Sheesh. :(

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Saga '02-'04 / Re: What 2003 SAGA product are you still missing?
« on: June 19, 2003, 02:56 AM »
My list has shrank some over time...  I find a figure here and there luckily.

I'm missing...

Lama Su/Clone Youth 2-pack
Aaylya Secura
Ashla/Jempa Youngling 2-pack
Yoda/Youngling 2-pack
Han Hoth Brown Coat

And that's about it right now...  I lucked into the final 2 head variation figures last Saturday at the Pennsylvania Collecting Club's summer social which was held right near here at Bob's (Bobafett14 over at Rebelscum) place.

I was expecting to walk away with nothing new because I seemed to have the most new stuff, but a gentleman had each of the head variants just sitting about, so I nabbed the Brown Hair officer and Red Hair Fleet Trooper right away.

Too bad those things aren't shipping en masse to retailers, because the RFT and Imp. Officer are about the only 2 figures I can think of from Saga '03 that would FLY off the shelves if you shipped them in solid cases alone...  

Rumor is that TRU's will be getting cleared out again sometime in the near future, so I'm hoping that and the recent Target clear-outs are going to bring in new stuff for me on a regular basis...

I'd like a couple "youngling" packs personally, just to do some custom work with them.  

And with stuff still shipping I'm doomed to get a little further behind with figures like Snowtrooper, Jedi Luke, Throne Room Vader, and the Clone Wars items (Which I'm really looking forward to the basic line CW figures).

Hope things change some though.

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I've seen it written somewhere who "makes" waht droids, but now I've forgotten the specifics of that...

As for the ALliance planets, I have always agreed with some written material's interpretation...

For instance, the Alliance holds the Mon Calamari system, and it's shipyards...  They're heavily defended/shielded, and the Empire would have a large campaign to undertake should they wish to destroy the shipyards and Mon Calamari...  

That's about as "large" a controlled system inside the realm of Imperial Space that the Alliance controls, and it's basically that they control a system here and there, spreading the Imperial fleet out (and thus thinning any ability they have).

The Alliance DOES have safeworlds though, outside the rim and in unexplored space...  Safeworlds where foodstuffs, and various other products are produced and shipped inward to the conflict.

The further you get from the core, the more spread out the Empire's resources are as well, making a more even playing field, thus the Alliance keeps mostly to the outer rim and beyond, while they fight various campaigns within the Rim and Interior worlds...

These basically make up any "front lines" of the conflict.

But yeah, I've always felt that the Empire "controls" the majority of the interior, and the Alliance maybe holds a sporatic few planets...  Now by a few, it may be within the hundreds or even thousands of planets/moons, but the Empire is in control of millions of planets, and the majority of these I feel would be loyal.

The Alliance creates fronts randomly though, causing Imperial tactical situations in the galaxy to be shakey at best.  Their "control" could fade on any given planet at any given moment really.

A lot of that was covered in West End Games' old RPG books, and they can cover quite a bit on the Rebel's infrastructure and ordinance issues that aren't as clear and simple as the Empire's.  Good reading for that type of thing for sure.

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Ah, but the Americans in the Revolution DID have a base uniform...

Continental soldiers wore blue coats, white pants, and the blue coats had red or white (or sometimes other) trim dependant upon station, rank, etc...  

The Rebels of the CSA also had a "Standard" uniform, though variations in the confederate uniform were quite common...  Then again, they were common for soldiers in the Union as well, depending upon regiment...  Union Sharpshooters for instance wore green uniforms.  It was also a time a uniform's "style" sometimes outweighed it's function though, and thus that nullifies the use of various uniforms from the North for this conversation's purposes...  Star Wars seems to rely very little on style, and 100% on function it seems.

I've read the "rebels wouldn't wear set uniforms" argument at the Tech Commentaries, and to me that's thinking entirely too much "earth", and not enough "Galactic"...  

Lucas described Star Wars as a "Million Million worlds", which I'd wager is a LOTTA worlds.  :)

Of those million million, how many are loyal to the Empire?  Let's say 3/4, or maybe 4/5 would be more accurate?  Maybe even 9/10...  Who knows really?  But how many are loyal to the Alliance?  9/10 of a million million worlds I bet is a LOT of worlds still...  

Out of the planets NOT loyal to the Empire though, would they not have the manufacturing ability to make a "basic" uniform the Alliance considered a "Standard"?  I'd think Earth alone would be capable of supplying the uniforms of what would be the majority of the Alliance military...  Maybe not, but what about 2 Earth-like planets?  Or 3?  What if there's one planet dedicated to this task?

But, let's put it in some Earth terms then anyway.  

There's maybe a "Standard" uniform for the Alliance Fleet (Thus the Fleet Trooper).  I pick this uniform because it seems the most abundant, and it does not look "professional".  IE: it's not taylored well, and there's something haphazard about it...  Most of the soldiers look clumsy, young, and it has a "ragtag" feel to it while still keeping a distinct uniform for the troops to call out their friends from their foes in a battle.  

It's definately not shaping up to be the taylored and impressive looking uniform that a planet's own security force might have though, like Amidalla's troops on Naboo who wear quite nice uniforms.  It's also not impressive and "expensive" looking like the Empire's duds are.

That to me implies that the RFT uniform is that of an Alliance Army Regular...  Or in this case, an Alliance Fleet Trooper.  It's cheap, but it has function and some level of form.  It could be cranked out en masse, at low cost, and will supply structure to a main military enlisted force.

To take some rebel uniform continuity further on-screen, we can see rebel petty officers and crew at the ceremony on Yavin.  I've counted quite a few variances in the uniforms at Yavin, but they're structured in a way, and it's known that a military advisor was on-set for ANH and ESB (Not known if the same person was there for ROTJ).  Thus the uniforms are put there intentionally to show some level of military structure at the final ceremony.

Similar, or identical uniforms can be seen manning various terminals and stations aboard Home One as well, which implies some level of uniform carry over between ANH and ROTJ...  They even have the same odd yellow emblem on their tan/brown hats on Home One as they do standing while Luke/Han get their medals.

But, taking the "earth" theory even a bit further in support of structured uniforms...

We know the Alliance is made up of more than a handful of human planets...  We see "uniforms" of other alien races represented.  For instance, the Dresellians have a uniform distinct to their species, as do the Tibrians...  One can argue the Mon Calamari do as well, but we seem to only see Mon Calamari "officers" so it's possible that their uniform carries over to human crew or other crew.  

Either way though, there's some uniform variety, but it's possible the Alliance works something akin to rebelling forces in Earth's history.

For instance, let's say the RFT and subsequent known uniforms associated with the RFT's (Like Captain Antilles', or Dodonna's) are the "basic" uniform of the Alliance "Regulars" like I've theorized...  Essentially the uniforms you see at the Yavin Ceremony.

These are, for an analogy, the "U.S. Continental army".

But the Dresellians have been fighting a resistance movement on their home planet against the Empire.  They're openly rebellious, and are allies to the Rebel Alliance, but possibly act independantly...  They maintain their uniforms though, for a variety of reasons (Maybe they choose not to commit to being army regulars, like the militia/minute men did in the American REvolution, who were "free" to leave at almost any time due to their status of not being part of the regular army).  

IE: The the Dresellians, and possibly other races = non-army regulars, or militia/minute-men type of troops...  

The Continental army will take up the brunt of the fighting in open conflict...  Militia may be right alongside them, or maybe are fighting on their own, closer to their homes...  Some Dressellians (or other species) may be within the Continental army itself, and wear the uniform of it...  Some may not.

So while ragtag in a way, the Alliance troops still have a main contingency of soldiers spread throughout various fleets and leadership groups around the galaxy.

They would also have various volunteer, support, militia, and guerilla pockets throughout the galaxy, as well as possible reserves, "national" guard, etc., forces at their disposeal...  Each of these groups may wear a variety of unique and different uniforms...  Some may be planetary security forces, or some may just be make-shift camoflaged uniforms made for their specific planet.

Another analogy, and one more close to our own time, would be the Vietnam War.  The Viet Cong were guerilla fighters with no "set" uniform...  Some dressed like civilians and struck from the streets of Sai Gon, some were in the classic black pajamas, sandals, and rice hat clothing, but that's hardly a "uniform"...  It wasn't much different than what a civilian may wear, and was more for function over form.

Then though were the NVA...  These were the "Regulars", and they wore a khaki uniform, very simple and basic, and a light expedition helmet.  They were also better supplied, and better supported/reinforced troops.  Whether their tactics worked better is up to debate though all together, but they were a noticeably more uniform force fighting for the same cause, and alongside the Viet Cong and it's varied cells.

To me, while putting Earth theory into practice it sometimes isn't always as logical to think that way when you're getting answers to a Galactic Question.  Sometimes it works though, and sometimes it doesn't...  Sometimes it just depends how you're looking at things (Like WHAT rebelling army you'd compare the Alliance to, for instance).

My main theory is that in all the rebelling planets, which while fewer than the Empire by far they would still number into the thousands possibly, the Alliance would LIKELYhave the ability to make some form of standardized uniform/system for their military.

When fighting would take place on this galactic scale, a uniformed structure would be necessary just to maintain order I believe.

That uniform structure would NOT exclude any outside help of course, and just like the Zouaves of New York in the civil war, while they looked like no other regiment in the Union's army, their help was never turned away because they were passionate volunteers...  Even though they wore sneaky pierre hats with little tassles and bright red pants (Talk about an easy target for the rebs!).  :)

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Well, there's no real continuity then though, when one thinks about it...

The Alliance even doesn't have a "continuity" of uniforms itself really.  They have, arguably, specific uniforms, but they alter between all 3 films...  The RFT's, which I feel are "standard" army regulars wear a specific, and NOT camoflauged uniform...  I feel it's design is to set them apart from other military forces in the galaxy.  

Then there's the Hoth uniform, which I feel is simply a cold weather version of the RFT's basic uniform, nothing more.  

Then there's the Endor Rebel's uniforms, which I feel the films establish are "Commando" units who likely have a handful of uniform styles to choose from, for mission-specific roles.

The prequals are different all together though, and uniforms are sparsely seen, but there is some continuity in the Separatist/Trade Fed battledroids...  They seem to use the same color codes for "basic" droid designations anyway...  But why the color changes?  There's 2 logical answers to this as I see it.  

1) the droids are camoflauged as best they can be (without getting into some intricate pattern of camo, but rather just a base coat that can be simply and quickly applied prior to drop on a specific planet)

or.....

2) they are painted specifically to the owner...  IE: the trade fed decided they would distinguish their droids from all others by painting them tan, and Geonosis would paint theirs red...  Odd that they would choose a color exactly like their own planet though, unless it was a statement of pride for the planet they hail from?

I personally just go with the camo thing...  Some EU is even dipping into this idea, where on worlds with lush vegetation, forrests, and jungles, the separatist armies have droids painted a shade of green...  Maybe if a night raid were done, they would give them a blast of black paint?

This was common in Earth armies during various wars, who would make a temporary camoflauge to hide themselves, which could be removed easily.  For instance, in the battle of the bulge, cold weather gear was in shorter supply for U.S. troops, so they often were seen wearing a tablecloth, or "borrowed" German equipment that gave them some camoflauge in the snowy Ardennes forrest.

The Germans were renowned for whitewashing helmets and equipment (As were U.S. forces eventually) to give a quick, and easily removed coating to protect themselves.

Maybe the Separatists employ something similar to their droids prior to an invasion?  

I'm curious if we'll see much battledroid action come Episode III?  If we see droids as being tan all over the place, or red...  Then I'd say they're that color most, or all of the time, or it goes by who is in control of the droids (IE: Trade Fed, or Geonosians, etc...), but if we see various colors dependant on situation, it could change everything all together.

There's definately not as much structure to a battledroid army as there is to the clones...  

It makes me wonder if we'll see any Republic "Military" beyond the clones and Jedi as well...  I have a feeling officers in uniforms like Lt. Faytonni and Ahmed Best's character's were wearing may become more "prominent" in E3...  Precursors to Imperial Officers perhaps?  Distinctly similar uniforms, that's for sure.  

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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: THANK YOU for using REAL NAMES!
« on: June 17, 2003, 10:54 PM »
It's great to see you over here Karma (I can't help but use people's nicnames, it's what I know most by).

I'd not seen you post around yet, but nice to know a collector so willing to help other collectors out is stopping by the site.  Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside I guess.  

Between you, MAC, BDW, Cyberscout...  Hell really most people I know that are helpful are coming around here.  That's DEFINATELY some good news.

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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Segway 1, Bush 0
« on: June 17, 2003, 10:52 PM »
Clinton's was more of a disaster than an accident...  

It was like Ernest Borgnine booked a flight on Clinton's crotch and doomed it to tragedy.

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Eh, ok I'm not the one to suddenly turn into 50 cent, but whatever...

Anyway, what's your take on droid colors?

It's obvious that battledroids come in a silver metal color if not painted, because it's clearly seen UNDER the paint on their scrapes.

OK, fine...  But why were Fed. BD's tan, and the BD's on Geonosis are red?  And why are SBD's their gunmetal color and not red?

With HBO showing AOTC now, I've had plenty of time to see AOTC over and over again, and likely will see it plenty more...  and even longer still when Skinemax gets it (if they get it?) like they do most HBO shows.

I have come to a personal conclusion that BD's are actually painted as a way of camoflauging them...  Most military products are on Earth, and it makes sense to do so with BD's...  I've seen no clear indication of them being painted for any other reason than that, and the red does quite nicely match Geonosis.

I would assume the tan of the Trade Fed's lineup was either the "base" paint used and camoflauging wasn't a priority to them, or it was intentionally used as an "Urban" camo deco to blend into the architecture of Naboo's cities.  Awfully tan looking place anyway, and it makes some level of sense.

SBD's I've come to the conclusion that their coating, which I believe is what gives them their gunmetal look (I assume they're as "silver" underneath as a standard battledroid) is something of a  blaster-retardant material...  A simple thing that gives them a lil extra "umph" on the battlefield that a Standard droid does not have.

I must admit, seeing the movie for about the 8th time now has enlightened me to the military strategy and coordination of droids...

Did you know there's commander battledroids on the field in the Geonosis battle for instance?  The one Windu summersaults over is one for sure, which I personally did not realize before.  I find it interesting...

Also, I believe the edited droid control ship raid implies that Battledroids no longer have the "Knock out the ship, knock out the droid army" weakness that the TF's army had on Naboo?

Droids independantly thinking and acting?  Seems to me that clones aren't so darn superior anymore, especially when one sees BD's acting pretty darn intelligently on Geonosis.

I've not got the Visual Dictionary for Episode II, so maybe they shed some EU light on what the droid's red color variation is for exactly, but I was curious if any of the rest of you had thought of this at all?  

I seem to recall seeing some awfully tan looking droids in a hangar on Geonosis though too, with blue "pilot" markings...  Very odd to mix them in there too.

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To me, how close depends upon what you're comparing a Star Wars figure to.

For instance, BBI and 21st Century's figures in the same scale are decked out in tons of gear, some with removeable belts even, and they have removeable helmets, and articulation is unreal on some of them (18+ points, 16 at a minimum).

That's pretty ultimate...  But no Hasbro figure is close to that either really.

To me, the CT Stormie is the best work Hasbro has done...  Just imagine if it had a working holster, wrist articulation, a pin/swivel elbow and knee articulation though?  That's a lot more than it DOES have though, so how "Ultimate" or even close to ultimate could it actually be?

You add all that to it though, and you have a figure that just simply blows everything away...  I mean, his wrists would move, his knees would be hinged like they are now but ALSO would pivot.  His boot tops would swivel too, due to the pin at the knee...  His elbows would have a full range of motion just like the knee area then.  

And on all that, his gun goes in its holster...  That's a LOT of improvement though...

Funny though, simply giving him wrist articulation adds more than people realize to it.  I've put some hands on one in an attempt to get them ready for casting (doing a lil preliminary testing is all) and it adds to the figure immensely.  He can hold pretty much any gun perfectly now.

I agree though, if Hasbro wants to do ultimate figures, they really can do them well.  I think Hasbro hides ball/socket joints better than anyone, and they're definately good at doing the holster thing.  Ball/socket knees, elbows, shoulders, neck, and then simply adding wrist and boot/shoe-top articulation makes ultimate figures though...  Hasbro definately can do that, and do it with very well hidden joints.  

Now all we need is to actually see that put into practice.  ;D

I think some of the figures mentioned though, are definately some of the best figures of the Star Wars line, for what it is...  Bespin Han, Bespin Guard, Sandtrooper, CT Stormtrooper...  These are all as close as Hasbro's ever gotten to "perfection", IMO.  Each is still lacking in areas though.

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Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Army Builder
« on: June 16, 2003, 05:10 AM »
Some people will argue what army builders are though at times.

For instance, i considered R2-Q5 and R3-T7 army builders as well.  But I'm a customizer and will repaint astromechs at will.  In a sense I'll have a nifty army of the little buggers though, considering I have TONS of astromechs I've hoarded over the years to repaint (including R2's).

Pit Droids could be army builders too, or so could protocol droids which there've been a few.

Mostly though, people consider Army Builders to be the military figures from the line...  These figures often have better sales rates than other figures though I believe.  Some you could ship a solid case of and they'd all sell out...

Imagine if stores just carried Commtech stormtroopers?  I could walk in Wal-Mart, maybe not see anything NEW but I'd grab a CT Stormie every time I was in, even if it was just to get toilet paper or something...

I do that with the XD line sometimes.  I'll just nab a figure I maybe don't NEED, but damned if they don't all look neat when together then.  :)  I've amassed an interesting U.S. Paratrooper army because of that habit.  And 21st's milked a lil extra scratch from me too.

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Saga '02-'04 / Re: Varation
« on: June 16, 2003, 05:06 AM »
The Endor Rebel's what most are calling a running variation.  The definition of variation is dependant upon who you're talking to though.  :)  Sometimes what some call a variant is an error, etc...  It can get confusing.

Hasbro produced 50% of the Endor Rebel as the bearded (Tom Green) figure at first, and these shipped fairly early into the Saga range of figures (I recall spotting them in October I believe it was, but I believe they shipped in September initially?)

The other 50% of the Endor Rebel's production run was this new figure who is clean shaven, and blonde.  I'm not sure when I first saw him off hand now...  I'm thinking prior to X-Mas I saw one maybe.

At first, this figure was rough to find for many, and some predicted it would be the most difficult to find.  It likely will be a LITTLE tougher than the bearded chap, as it's a little less "distinct" of an army builder.  

I would not personally list the beardless soldier as "rare" because I've seen him well over 20 times now.  He's even a pegwarmer in some instances, and if Hasbro's being honest then he's equally produced to what the bearded soldier is...

That would make him no more rare at all.

He's a better looking figure I think, though that figure still irks me because it's so unposeable.

I feel the Endor REbel 4-pack should've been the POTF2 body with these 2 heads instead of the original generic head.  Oh well...  

A good custom (for you wanting variety) is to put the Saga body on the legs/lower torso of a POTF2 troop.  It works fairly well with a little finegaling.  

Now if only the arms posed at the shoulder more, it would be pretty sweet.   ;D

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