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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => 30th Anniversary Collection => Topic started by: Jeff on August 17, 2007, 10:48 AM
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The JediDefender Spy Network has uncovered a bit of news this AM... it seems as though a new Hoth Battle Pack just might be headed our way later this year or early next.
No official details just yet, but it's very likely that this pack will include -
Hoth Han Solo (2007 Vintage Repaint with Blue Coat)
Snowspeeder Pilot Luke Skywalker (using the Zev body with new head/helmet)
Rebel Officer (a gray colored Derlin repaint)
Hoth Rebe Trooper (don't get too excited, it's the tiny 2004 sculpt)
Details are a bit sketchy on what that 5th figure will be, but we should have more details later today hopefully... :)
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This might be cool. It'll get the Han in brown/blue coat debate going again. I wonder if this one will come with Han's hood up version... just to irk us off.
Snowspeeder Luke ! Awesome! Though without much leg artic. :-\
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This is potentially cool. My perfect Hoth BP, however, would look like this:
Han Solo-(REPAINT w/blue coat)
Princess Leia-(NEW, SA)
Chewbacca-(REPACK from tin set)
2x Snowtrooper-(VOTC REPACKS)
But if Derlin has a new head in this BP, and the fifth figure is the snowtrooper or something decent, then I just might get this. Bummer that the 2004 Hoth Rebel is being re-released, his sculpt needs to be atomized.
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Although it could be better, this does sound kind of cool. I'd pick it up for the Han and Luke alone, so hopefully the other figures turn out to be pretty good as well. Man, it just reminds us again how badly we need an all-new, SA, VTSC-style Hoth Rebel Trooper. That stubby Saga one was terrible - I passed it then when I saw it, waiting for a better one, which we still haven't gotten.
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What I Hope We'll Get
NEW Snowspeeder Luke w/ Helmet, Lightsaber, Hilt, Blaster, Detonator And Harpoon Gun
NEW Princess Leia (Echo Base) w/ Scanners, Headset, Console, And Blaster
REPACK Chewbacca (ESB Tin)
REPAINT Han Solo (Hoth Gear, Repainted Blue, w/ Hood Up)
REPACK Snowtrooper (V30AC)
What Hasbro Will Probably Give Us
(http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/sw0401hothtrooperloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/sote/sotechewiesnoovaloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TAC16vaderLS-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/TSC008derlinloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/episodeI/e1valorumloose-m.jpg)
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I'd actually be okay with three of the four figures you listed, Jeff (the 2004 Saga HRS being the obvious problem with this set). It would be nice if they gave the Derlin figure a new head to make a generic Rebel Officer (maybe Treat Williams' head as an easter egg, although I don't know if he signed his likeness over for them to go that far), and give Han the "hood up" head.
I'd much rather Hasbro drop the 2004 HRS and include two V30AC Snowtroopers with some modifications made to the chest ranks, or even include a Snowspeeder Wedge using the Zev body as well.
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HAHAHA... I actually laughed out loud at the post Reid, well said!!! Hopefully we dont get Chancellor Valorum in this set!
If the set truly has snowspeeder luke and another Han Hoth... SIGN ME UP for 2!!!
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I could see myself buying this one. Not too bad.
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It would be nice if they gave the Derlin figure a new head to make a generic Rebel Officer
Norm Rebel, anyone? ;)
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Bah, how dare they try to get me to buy a battlepack for one figure.
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/hothBPhan.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/hothBPluke.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/hothBPrebel1.jpg)[
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/hothBPrebel2.jpg)
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They look like customs to me, I mean the Hoth Han looks sweet with that Blue coat but Hasbro would put the Hood Up variant in it for collectors to buy it and an tauntaun. I hasbro would at least give Luke Snowspeeder some articulated arms and or legs and the harpoon gun.
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I could be mistaken but apparently the lightsaber that Luke is holding looks like Obi-Wan Kenobi's lightsaber from Revenge of the Sith.
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That's a cheap way out of a Snowspeeder Luke, Hasbro! >:(
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This BP looks like a cheap and easy way to get some Hoth Rebels for my Snow Troopers to fight. Put me down for one set.
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I would only buy this for the Luke. But his arms HAVE to be articulated for me to buy it. That stiff arm $%^& would bug me way to much. Yeah, are these all customs?
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Hmmm, easy pass for me I think. It's funny how wrong the blue coat on Han looks to me now, and why get an inaccurately colored Rebel officer? The Luke could work, but the boots are all wrong (like they were for Zev). If they make this Luke, he needs to have the bulkier padded outfit.
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I'm not real sure yet on this one myself... Luke's height will bug me among other things. I'd like the Derlin really, but at this point I'm thinking $20 for something like that isn't gonna get me to budge on it. I'll probably pass.
I think it's a valiant effort to push second-rate (overall) efforts for a fair price to the masses, while still satiating some requests of the fans. I think that'll drive some to buy the set alone really.
And no, Han's coat isn't blue... I see a major discussion of this going on at Scum that was brought to my attention, and I gotta say those guys arguing in favor of the blue coat are so pathetically stretching reality to get themselves ANY "shadow of a doubt" on the coat being brown. It's really sad at this point.
The coat's been rolled out OF LFL HEADQUARTERS, simply to show it's brown... And yet there's still debate. I am in awe.
I respect your opinion if you just dig it being blue because it's what you remembered. That's great to me and has some roots in reality. If you're still trying to debate that the coat is blue because it was blue in the movie and not actually brown... Well that I cannot respect at this point. Burying your head in the sand doesn't make reality go away, and something this silly is really beyond funny that people are so vehement in denying the truth now.
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The coat's been rolled out OF LFL HEADQUARTERS, simply to show it's brown... And yet there's still debate. I am in awe.
I'm not. There's too much weirdness with this costume for there to not be some degree of debate, be it right or wrong.
Paramount pulled some old blue Trek uniforms out of storage for the recent Star Trek auction-- and they're purplish brown now, after several decades of aging. Were it not for this, I'd be inclined to agree it's brown and move on.
Seeing how Lucasfilm's official line at one point in the 1990s was "Han wears black" (see: Galoob's ESB Han figures, 1997 POTF2 Han Bespin) and the 2003/2004 LEGO Falcon comes with Hoth Han with a blue coat, I'd be lying if I said that I can totally accept that the original coat was the same color for this reason alone. Things age and discolor with time, plus memory can fail, and we all know how perceptions based on toys can shape reality. That and I've heard a lot of interesting comments about from licensors about what is or isn't "in the movies" (knowing what actually is courtesy of a trading card, VHS tape, or DVD) according to Lucas Licensing over the years to know you can't always take this at face value. I hate to trot out a cliche like "all I know is I don't know," but some of the things I see and hear don't always measure up to scrutinity. (Like the POTJ Rebel Fleet Trooper not needing improvements, for example.)
I'm not sure if I've seen decent, clear (not snowed on or on a snowy background) photography from 1979 of the jacket, I see no reason to not let the debate rage on until someone from Kenner says "yeah, we screwed up" or someone has a really good publicity photo of Harrison Ford in the jacket. I've seen the photos in the Chronicles books but I'm having a hard time determining when those photos were taken-- if it was during shooting, I'd agree that it's brown, everybody could see this, and the debate will hopefully end. But if it was in the 1990s? I wouldn't discount discoloration without further investigation, plus as much as I love Hasbro, they keep giving us Han in that thermal hat despite it not really appearing in the movies for more than a fraction of a second. It seems they're working from a specific photo in the Chronicles book, and I can't say I trust that photo completely just yet.
Even if the coat was always brown, there's still a lot of room for research discussion-- like how did Kenner decide on blue for its 3 3/4-inch figure and die-cast metal figures from 1980-1982 if the costume wasn't that color? B&W stills? Early costume sketches? Aesthetics? It's a great topic and one of those nifty mysteries in the hobby. So many things are spelled out for us, and yet Han's costumes from ESB and the coloring of the related merchandise still seems to be somewhat inconsistent after all these years. As a long-time fan, I find this fascinating.
But it's late and that was probably rambly, so. Kudos on the awesome pics, I'm digging these two new sets-- especially the Endor one. Wonder what figure #5 is gonna be.
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Check out this Adam...
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5384.0
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The only downer of the set is the trooper for me. The other firgures are definitely worth buying IMHO.
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Check out this Adam...
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5384.0
Seen it. Not buying it. :) Lucas has changed the story on the "official" color of Han's jacket several times over the past 27 years and they've made a lot of mistakes here and there on what they approve. I don't disagree that it's the most likely, but I still need to see and hear more than a color number on a licensing sheet given how much variation is out there in the character's costume coloring. Were these mistakes? Did nobody really care in the production until the modern Hasbro/Kenner line? Does blue just sell better? Nosey people with nothing better to think about this morning want to know!
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Well to be honest I prefer the blue color on that jacket with any Hoth Han release. Regardless of the proof. Maybe it's because of the vintage figure always being blue. For whatever reason I always like the option of getting the blue jacket. Obviosly Hasbro is well aware of that and tries to capitalize. Anyway I just hope they release that hood up version some time. I assume that would come with blue and brown versions as well.
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I wish we were getting the hood up version in this set.
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Hmmm. I have very mixed feelings about this set.
The blue coat doesn't look right. Mainly because it's just too bright of a blue. I'm not going to get into the blue VS brown argument. And I would like to see a Han based on this sculpt with the hood up.
The Luke looks cool, but knowing how tall the Zev figure was in comparison with the VTSC Luke, it doesn't seem like it'll work. And he's got Obi-Wan's lightsaber, too.
The repainted Derlin doesn't look quite right. The paintjob seems like it should be a lighter grey.
The Rebel looks awful. When it came out I thought it was better than the POTF2 Hoth Rebel. But it does not fit in with the modern figure aesthetic.
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Hasbro has updated this set on their main site. Updated photos of the 4 figures:
(http://www.cartway-kapers.com/images1/jokes.19.jpg) (http://www.cartway-kapers.com/images1/jokes.19.jpg)
(http://www.cartway-kapers.com/images1/jokes.19.jpg) (http://www.cartway-kapers.com/images1/jokes.19.jpg)
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^ Nice.
I'd buy this set if the Han came with the hood-up head. That alone would sell me on it with the Luke and the Hoth Rebels being icing on the cake. Well, Derlin at least. I could leave that Rebel Soldier.
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Check out this Adam...
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5384.0
Seen it. Not buying it. :) Lucas has changed the story on the "official" color of Han's jacket several times over the past 27 years and they've made a lot of mistakes here and there on what they approve. I don't disagree that it's the most likely, but I still need to see and hear more than a color number on a licensing sheet given how much variation is out there in the character's costume coloring. Were these mistakes? Did nobody really care in the production until the modern Hasbro/Kenner line? Does blue just sell better? Nosey people with nothing better to think about this morning want to know!
Adam,
Just curious about your take on the Han Hoth Jacket they had in the LFArchrives at CIV? That was clearly brown for whatever grains of salt that's worth....
Jefff
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Wow, that was quick - we just paid $10 for the Han, now it's $4.
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Adam,
Just curious about your take on the Han Hoth Jacket they had in the LFArchrives at CIV? That was clearly brown for whatever grains of salt that's worth....
Jefff
I'm no expert on how things discolor with time, so I'm probably going to be at the "that's interesting, I wonder if it's true?" phase for a while. The fact that toy companies have made the outfit in at least three distinct colors in multiple scales is enough to make me scratch my head. Perception is a hard thing to break past, and Lucasfilm's changing story (or approvals process) doesn't help things. If "Han wears black", why did that only apply to the Galoob Action Fleet and MicroMachines figures and not the Kenner toys of 1996-1998?
The garment clearly being brown is basically what I'm getting at-- if the blue original series Trek costumes discolored over time, it's possible this one has as well.
Official stories are nice, but they still can't always be taken at face value. I've been told point blank that there was no such thing as a character named Darth Maul, for example, around the Summer of 1998. Lucasfilm licensing said that a yellowish green lightsaber was correct for Plo Koon from 1999 to 2001, and in 2002, now it's blue, because someone inside Lucas HQ said it was. (And on some toys, it was medium to dark green.) Heck, Agen Kolar has a blue lightsaber in ROTS and the toy has been made-- multiple times-- with a green one.
I'm not denying that a brown Hoth Han Solo coat costume exists today. I'm just saying that over the past 27 years, there's enough inconsistancy in the merchandise and other interesting prop discoloration stories which should make fans at the very least scratch their heads a little. It's like Groucho Marx, "who are you going to believe, me, or your own eyes?"
(I know I'm probably wrong. But I want to completely prove myself wrong.)
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I like the conspiracy and hope it's never 'solved.'
Personally, I think they had two coats during filming - one brown, one blue. Maybe the cut scenes (sent to Kenner?) used the blue coat and that's why the vintage Han (1980) is the way it is.
I don't care - both are fine with me, although if I had to choose - blue is the way to go only out of nostalgia.
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I don't care - both are fine with me, although if I had to choose - blue is the way to go only out of nostalgia.
Pretty much the way I feel.
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I agree with the nostalgia love on blue, I think if that's your basis that's cool...
However, I just can't see the argument that there's any shred of doubt about the coat's color now. Fading doesn't happen uniformly over a fabric so personally I think that's a real big stretch as to it being the "reasonable doubt" on the matter, but that's me... I, at one time, was a blue guy and now I've seen more than enough to feel it's brown.
To me, the best photographic evidence is the picture of Han in front of the lifesize snowspeeder prop (which also shows the glaring overscale size of the Snowspeeder toy by the way), which is a well lit, sound stage setting, and the coat's as brown as it gets in that picture, just like the prop that was rolled out.
Either way, I'm happy to get a blue one... For nostalgia reasons, which then I understand, I'm also into picking one up to display with the brown.
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(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/hanhothbrown_bg.jpg)
This pic was my proof for a long time that the coat was brown
The final nail for me was the licensing slick from Kenner where the Pantone color was Brown (I also like they used the Pantone cards in the CIV coat display case showing the card)
Why did they pick blue instead? I'm guessing someone read the code wrong (540 on the chart is Blue while 405 is Brown). Couple that with a not so iron fist handle on LFL Licensing (Cantina Aliens, 4-LOM/Zuckuss, etc) it slipped through the cracks. Couple that with blue tinged natural light in a cold icy planet and you have millions of disillusioned and incorrect memories.
Actually pulling the coat out of the archives was all the final proof I needed.
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I agree the coat's brown in the movie.
I just like the mystery behind the blue one. From my understanding there were a few cut scenes from the Hoth sequence - you just never know what the costume dept. had in mind...
Maybe the scenes were cut because Han's coat was blue?
Hell, I don't know and that's what makes it cool.
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(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/watermark.php?file=39404)
:D
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Wow.
VTSC Han (Blue Coat)
AT-ST Driver
Hoth Rebel Soldier
1 ****** Snowtrooper (circa POTF)
2 VTSC Snowtroopers (dirty deco) Brown? would gray have made more sense?
1 Snowspeeder Luke (NEW)
Turret
AT-ST
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Holy. ****. ;D So buying this (whatever the cost!)
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That's a lot for one battle pack. The TRU set with the beasts and three figures is going for $60. This has 7 figures, the turret and the AT-ST. I'm thinking the price point is probably going to be at least that much, but more likely $80.
*EDIT - Is it me, or does it look like there might be one more figure in this set? I think there might be a second Hoth Rebel up in the turret. There's some kind of plastic at the top of the turret, and what looks like a hand. But whatever figure might be there is obscured by the angled Star Wars logo on the box.
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That is the repainted Bren Derlin (in Grey coat) I was just going to point that out Nick :)
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Holy crap that is one awesome battle pack! I almost don't believe it's real.
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That is the repainted Bren Derlin (in Grey coat) I was just going to point that out Nick :)
Good catch. I didn't even see that up there.
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Looks like I'll be buying this. Very nice.
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That is the repainted Bren Derlin (in Grey coat) I was just going to point that out Nick :)
Good catch. I didn't even see that up there.
Good memory indeed! I only saw the hand.
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I only saw the hand.
*includes severed hand solo ;)
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I'm going to make a prediction in hopes that it comes true.
- "Surprise" Thanksgiving Exclusive for 2007, ala the Shuttle
- $59.99 price tag
Looking at what you get...
8x Action Figures
1x AT-ST
1x Turret (plus cardboard or plastic base?)
The figure values each are anywhere from $4-$7 (given recent multi-pack prices), the AT-ST is a good $20, and the Turret... let's say $10. So $50-$60 probably isn't remotely unreasonable if the item is in fact a "Black Friday" (or thereabouts) exclusive this year.
The REAL question is the Endor set... should we expect a larger accessory like the Bunker or the Ewok Glider in there too? Hmm hmmm hmmm....
Anyway, I feel obligated to say if it's $50 or less, I'm buying two. $60 or more, it'll depend on how good and sturdy the AT-ST legs are. Very nice though.
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Probably be a good time to repost these...
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/hothBPluke.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/hothBPhan.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/hothBPrebel1.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/hothBPrebel2.jpg)
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Very cool to see the finished product. (and thanks to our source all those weeks ago ;))
So $50-$60 probably isn't remotely unreasonable if the item is in fact a "Black Friday" (or thereabouts) exclusive this year.
Yeah, I can see this set being the Christmas draw similar to the shuttle was last year.
I think it has enough "new" to draw me in, despite the fact that I already have the turret and the AT-ST.
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I'm going to make a prediction in hopes that it comes true.
- "Surprise" Thanksgiving Exclusive for 2007, ala the Shuttle
- $59.99 price tag
Looking at what you get...
8x Action Figures
1x AT-ST
1x Turret (plus cardboard or plastic base?)
The figure values each are anywhere from $4-$7 (given recent multi-pack prices), the AT-ST is a good $20, and the Turret... let's say $10. So $50-$60 probably isn't remotely unreasonable if the item is in fact a "Black Friday" (or thereabouts) exclusive this year.
The REAL question is the Endor set... should we expect a larger accessory like the Bunker or the Ewok Glider in there too? Hmm hmmm hmmm....
Anyway, I feel obligated to say if it's $50 or less, I'm buying two. $60 or more, it'll depend on how good and sturdy the AT-ST legs are. Very nice though.
100% agreed with you Adam!
What a surprise to see all this packed in here! I'm thinking $50-$60 sounds about right, anything over $60 might actually be a ripoff... the real treat would be to find one of these on clearance later.
Anyways, count me in for at least one set. Maybe two if I can stomach the midget Rebel. Probably two sets though, provided these go for the $40 - $60 range.
I'll go ahead and speculate that in the Endor set, we are now going to be getting possibly another AT-ST, along with the Bunker... and more than one Stormie/Scout Trooper. Damn you Hasbro, for seeming to finally work out a better way to bring out these larger Battle Packs (the Arena one still sucks though because of the absolute TERRIBLE versions of Anakin, Obi Wan and Padme that are included.
Back to the Hoth set, the way the turret and the AT-ST are painted is the biggest selling point for me, and that it includes vintage style Snowtroopers (bah on the other one).
Also, I tried to clean the image some.
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/092007target.jpg)
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One more thing...
It LOOKS like the lower-right hand corner of the box is an item number. If that is indeed the item number, it's quite long, which means it may well be part of an assortment if it's more than five digits (as the number are usually XXXXX/YYYYY Asst if it's an assortment or just XXXXX if not.) But I'm just talking out of my butt as I don't know Target's number for this one or how it's in the computer, it just looks like it might well be one of multiple items.
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Pretty slick...
Is that two V30AC Snowtroopers and one crappy one?
I think I might get the set and part it out to get the snowies, Han, Derlin, and maybe the Luke, and then just get rid of most of the rest... Keep the turret perhaps.
Is the Turret the POTF2 one as well? Looks much larger to me actually.
And again, a huge thanks to our source for the early images on this. Indeed it looks like a nice set in the final packaging. :)
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It's a nice set....much more than I think anyone anticipated. Would have been cool if it included an updated AT-ST, but the inclusion of the original--along with the blue-coated Han Solo and turret--gives it a very nostalgic, vintage feel.
(I like to think that, offscreen, Luke went all medieval on a bunch of Snowtroopers and a scout walker after he downed that AT-AT with the grenade, just like he's doing in this pack!) ;D
Anyway, these images are great!!! Thanks for leaking them early!
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I don't have a modern AT-ST, so I'm definitely interested. Add a couple Snowies and Rebels, a Luke Snowspeeder Pilot and I'm all over this. 8)
However, I'm a little nervous about the price...
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Seeing that everyone seems happy about this (nice to see fans excited about something made up mostly of repacks, ha ha) - let's also applaud there not being a Vader in this set! Disclaimer - I love Darth Vader, but don't need another Vader right now, at least not packed in sets like this.
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The only thing that would have gotten me to buy this set would have been 2-3 new SA Hoth Rebel soldiers, not a repainted Derlin and the midget Hoth Rebel. The only thing I like about this set is the 2 VTAC snowies. Everything else, if hanging on a peg hook individually, I'd have left right there. The old snowie. The fluorescent blue Han. The Luke that we just got. Both Hoth Rebels. I don't want any of it.
I think it has enough "new" to draw me in...
Wait, what's new? Is that a AT-ST Han converted to a generic Imperial driver? If not there's not one new thing in there except 2 paintjobs on 2 figures (Han, Derlin). And bad paintjobs at that. Unless that's not the POTF Hoth turret. But if it is, I don't see what's new.
...despite the fact that I already have the turret and the AT-ST.
And the luke. And the Han. And the poor excuses for Hoth Rebels. And the snowies. What in there do you not already have? Help me if you can, I'd like to be excited about this set too, if possible.
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Look closer Dressel - that's a new (kitbashed) Luke in Snowspeeder Gear not the X-Wing Pilot Gear.
Also note that in the packaged shot Luke still appears to include the Obi-Wan lightsaber. There's just no excuse.
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really cool set. I'm not so worried about the price as I am about 1) the space it takes up (small apt.) and 2) finding it. going to be highly difficult in scalper city LA
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I think it has enough "new" to draw me in...
Wait, what's new? Is that a AT-ST Han converted to a generic Imperial driver? If not there's not one new thing in there except 2 paintjobs on 2 figures (Han, Derlin). And bad paintjobs at that. Unless that's not the POTF Hoth turret. But if it is, I don't see what's new.
...despite the fact that I already have the turret and the AT-ST.
And the luke. And the Han. And the poor excuses for Hoth Rebels. And the snowies. What in there do you not already have? Help me if you can, I'd like to be excited about this set too, if possible.
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Call me a sucker. Sure, they're just repaints and kit bashes, but with the exception of the Han, I can use every one of those pieces as either an regular army builder, squad leader or to customize. The only question for me is, will it be a good value? In fact, I'm going to look through some receipts to see if I can return some of the VOTC Snowtroopers I haven't gotten to open yet.
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What in there do you not already have? Help me if you can, I'd like to be excited about this set too, if possible.
Stuff I don't have -
- Vintage Hoth Han: The Blue Coat repaint is enough for me just from nostalgia for the Kenner version
- Snowspeeder Luke: As Jayson pointed out, it's a new kitbash (see pics above)
- Repainted Derlin: Yeah, it's a repaint but it works for me for a generic Rebel Officer
To me, that stuff is "new" since it's different enough from the original release. I realize that my definition of "new" might not be the same as everyone elses, so that's why it's in quotes in my post.
I'm also not sure on the AT-ST Pilot/Veers there either. Could be a Veers repack or it could be the AT-ST Driver (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/bp_atstdriver.jpg) that was rumored for the Endor Set, and that is indeed the AT-ST Han with a new head.
So, that's 3-4 figures plus the 3 Snowtroopers which are always welcome army builders. That will be enough for me to buy the set, sell the AT-ST and Turret and then be happy. Of course, I bought the $17 Grievous, so I'm a sucker anyway. :P
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I'm also not sure on the AT-ST Pilot/Veers there either. Could be a Veers repack or it could be the AT-ST Driver (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/bp_atstdriver.jpg) that was rumored for the Endor Set, and that is indeed the AT-ST Han with a new head.
It looks to be the AT-ST/Han Driver note the Imperial insignia on the shoulder
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This is turning out to be a pretty nice pack. I definitely want to pick at least one up, unless the price is too outrageous. I like the nostalgia of the Han repaint, the Luke is new-ish, and we can always use more of the VTSC Snowtroopers. The Derlin repaint is ok with me too, although I'm not all that excited about the short Hoth soldier (man do we need some all-new, SA rebel troops). I have one AT-ST, but I'd happily take another one, and I never did have the Turret, so that's a welcome addition. Really a nice pack overall. The pricepoint will be the thing. If it is $50 or 60, that would be ok, but much more it might be tough for me to get. Like someone mentioned, imagine finding these on a classic Target clearance ;). I kind of hope the Endor pack that JD previewed as well might be something along these lines too.
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Since it is a Target exclusive, there is a good chance some of us can wait for it to go on clearance. The other two high-priced Target exclusives I remember recently (Snowspeeder and Imperial Shuttle) went on clearance in my area for a couple of weeks. There was plenty to be found, and were marked down $20 for the Shuttle, and $5-10 for the snowspeder.
I like the set, and since I only have one VTSC Snowtrooper, I'd be happy with the two additional troopers. I've never owned (new or vintage) a Walker or driver, so that would be something completely new to me. The kit-bashed Luke is also cool with me. The turret, repainted VTAC Han, and two rebels are not as attractive.
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I am getting at least two of this set. I don't have a turret or an AT-ST, and I like having new (repainted, yes) Rebels for my snowtroopers to fight. But the best part of this set for me are the two snowtroopers! I never found these at retail except for one, and I think it's up there with the best action figures ever! So an easy way to get more of them, along with an AT-ST, is more than welcome.
Great set! Thank you Hasbro!
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I wish it was just figures because i dont want the turret or vehicles. I may try to just get the 3 new figs on ebay.
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Dear sweet Jesus this set is MINE. But where to get the money from...
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But where to get the money from...
Sell a kidney on black market? Pimp yourself? ;)
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I still can't understand why the majority of the community is so happy about this set. I'm ecstatic due to the boxed presentation, but I sure wouldn't be that happy with a big box of repaints if I were an opener. :-\
I almost forgot about the turret. I was thinking it was brand spankin new there for a minute. I'm hoping the Endor set looks as jazzy as this one.
I can easily see this as a Black Friday deal for $60....
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:'(
Such a cool set and they just HAD to make it a target exclusive..you guys are lucky.
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I agree that this is a mixed feelings kind of set. I mean really, why the hell couldn't they update the AT-ST's "chin" cannons and the "ear" weapons?
On the positive side, a lot of what is in this set was stolen from me a few years back, so it would be nice to have, price and wallet willing.
On the negative side, on top of the inaccuracies of the AT-ST, will the turret have a base of some kind? I sure hope so. And, as always with figures that are in multi-packs, the quality control of the paint apps goes way downhill, and hopefully if there are enough of these to pick through, a pack can be found that doesn't have such horrid paint jobs. I have found that, just because you find one, you better look it over before purchasing.
Damn, I was really hoping the AT-ST would have been updated....
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My only complaint is why the Saga2 Snow Trooper? Why not x3 VOTC versions. I would have like a couple of AT-ST parts updated but this is a killer set for $50! I will buy 2 mainly for the Turrets, I will trade some extras.
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I'm glad that so many people are excited about this set, but I really can't muster up much, myself. One of my hopes (and I thought it was a relatively grounded one based on what Hasbro has said about possibly doing one) was that a new AT-ST was in the pipeline for the next year or two, so seeing the same old vintage mold again with all of its inaccuracies is disappointing. And whoever thought that reissuing the 2004 Hoth Rebel Soldier in ANY form was a good idea needs to be shunted off to do taste testing for lead paint on Mattel products. (I assume that this is the same person who said, "Arena Padme, Deluxe Anakin, and Acklay Battle Obi-Wan? GENIUS!")
But yeah, when the only thing that interests me is a Snowspeeder Luke kitbash out of a box of all this stuff, I think it's going to be an easy pass. If anybody decides to sell off their loose Luke, let me know. :-\
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Yeah, it's a bunch of rehashes, and the AT-ST is still not quite accurate, but for the $50 price tag that's apparently been confirmed now, this is one helluva bargain. You're talking a $30+ vehicle ($45 originally at TRU, IIRC), a $5 - $10 Turret, three $10 - $12 vintage figures, and five $6 - $7 basic figures (including a nice Luke kitbash)... That's $95 - $126 worth of Hoth swag for the bargain basement price of just $49.99! Not bad. I'll definitely be picking several of them up, assuming they're easier to find than the Shuttle was last year (which I pulled off a stock cart, but NEVER saw on the shelves). So kudos (from many of us) to Hasbro and Target for teaming up on such a great deal for folks here...
As for the lack of an update to the AT-ST, I'm guessing they're trying to squeeze just a little bit more out of the older POTF2 mold for this vehicle, before finally looking into updating it to something a little bigger and more accurate in the next few years. Hopefully.
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50$?
I'm in
When can we expect this? ???
DS
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All signs point to it being like the Shuttle was last year (in the ad & on an endcap), so sometime in November/December.
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Where did this $50 figure materialize from? I think it seems a little low all things considered.
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RS is reporting $50 on their front page.
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Count me in for two of these Hoth sets.
As for the AT-ST, I wouldn't be surprised if this is just Hasbro making money of that sculpt one last time before looking at a newer, taller design.
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50.00 isnt as bad as i thought it would be but i am still not sure which way i am going with this. I think the size of the set may prevent me still, just not enough room anymore.
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I still can't understand why the majority of the community is so happy about this set. I'm ecstatic due to the boxed presentation, but I sure wouldn't be that happy with a big box of repaints if I were an opener. :-\
One word: Army-buliding. I'm literally drooling over the set. Unlike the TRU Arena set, I have to get an opener of this one.
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I'll get one of these for sure. I don't have a modern AT-ST, and I want Han, Luke, and the Snowtroopers. The turret is a nice extra, and more Hoth soldiers are always neat. They could have left the 2004 soldier out, no doubt about that.
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50 dollars is a great price for this set.
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As for the AT-ST, I wouldn't be surprised if this is just Hasbro making money of that sculpt one last time before looking at a newer, taller design.
I have a feeling that Hasbro was doing the same thing with the Shadow Scout's Speederbike before a new tool is made.
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As for the AT-ST, I wouldn't be surprised if this is just Hasbro making money of that sculpt one last time before looking at a newer, taller design.
I have a feeling that Hasbro was doing the same thing with the Shadow Scout's Speederbike before a new tool is made.
Good point, so on that note I wonder if this wasn't the last time....will they release a 'jungle camo' or 'shadow' AT-ST next before the next proper scale redo/resculpt?
DS
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It's a great deal for parents or grandkids looking to get one big Star Wars item for christmas gift- As a collector with at least one version of every figure/ship/prop in there, I'm not as jazzed. If these are items you missed or weren't on the bandwagon in 1998- it is a nice catch-up pack. Hopefully they will overproduce them and I can find one for 35 or so-
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I'm glad that so many people are excited about this set, but I really can't muster up much, myself. One of my hopes (and I thought it was a relatively grounded one based on what Hasbro has said about possibly doing one) was that a new AT-ST was in the pipeline for the next year or two, so seeing the same old vintage mold again with all of its inaccuracies is disappointing. And whoever thought that reissuing the 2004 Hoth Rebel Soldier in ANY form was a good idea needs to be shunted off to do taste testing for lead paint on Mattel products. (I assume that this is the same person who said, "Arena Padme, Deluxe Anakin, and Acklay Battle Obi-Wan? GENIUS!")
But yeah, when the only thing that interests me is a Snowspeeder Luke kitbash out of a box of all this stuff, I think it's going to be an easy pass. If anybody decides to sell off their loose Luke, let me know. :-\
Besides the Hoth rebel soldier, and the POTF2 snowtrooper Luke is he 3rd one I'm least looking at keeping, if anything I'd just use him as custom fodder. He's yours if you want him, when it comes of course ;D
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It's a great deal for parents or grandkids looking to get one big Star Wars item for christmas gift-
That's the big picture. Well said.
I think this will sell much faster than the shuttle.
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The shuttle sold pretty good in the STL area. Come the first week of December last year, I didn't see any more of them. I'd actually think it would be nice to see them re-release it again in a year or two.
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Pretty good looking. Definately worth the price.
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I was thinking no... I thought someone posted the POTF2 Hoth turret set for comparison and it was the same thing, it just looks bigger int he packaging. I could be wrong though, as I do not own that POTF2 set. Some of the few things I passed on were those POTF2 playsets.
You may be right, I'm not sure though. I do own those older POTF2 sets (and they are bad in my opinion) and it seems the Hoth turret is different this time around.
For example, on this image -
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/092007target.jpg)
Versus these images -
(http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/POTF2hothbattletower1.jpg)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/POTF2hothbattleturretbk.jpg)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/POTF2hothbattlehatch1.jpg)
I'm almost positive that these are different sculpts... the handle lon the door ooks different to me, and I'm pretty sure there are some differnet patterns going on with the top of the turret. This new version appears to be quite a bit larger than the old one... and the old one could not stand freely on its own, as it had a weird bottom to it, where it would lock onto the POTF2 snow base section.
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The door hinges do sorta look different now that youp ost that photo. Now all the more reason to pick it up... Something about it does look larger too, but I'd figured that was an optical illusion.
I hope it's newer/larger sculpted though. That's a piece that, IMO, is sorely needed in the line. The towers from Hoth were kind of iconic to that battle I thought... Not sure on the scale but the Vintage tower was pretty close in general. A full blueprint of one exists actually, based on the production blueprints of the lifesized piece, and that looks (eyeballing it of course) close at least.
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Good eye Chewie! The cannon is the same, but everyting else does look new.
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Looking at the "door handle" on the Target set there is a large rectangular piece on the left on the main body while the older set has a smaller square object on basically the same spot. Also the snow that the older version is on looks molded together with the canon while the Target version seems to have gaps in between the snow and the canon. Definately looks different to me. ;D
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Man, I don't see them retooling something this large for an application like this. Maybe they went in and tweaked the detailing in the tool.
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Man, I don't see them retooling something this large for an application like this. Maybe they went in and tweaked the detailing in the tool.
I can see why you'd think that given Hasbro's track record, but everything about it looks like a new turret to me, other than the actual cannon on it (which the more I look at, it looks different too!). This piece looks a lot larger than the POTF2 version. Maybe we'll hear more in a Q&A.
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Maybe we'll hear more in a Q&A.
IIRC we never heard squat about the shuttle until after its release.
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I'm with CHEWIE on this one... that turret looks all new to me. The door hinges are obviously gone on the packaged version there, and the base looks to be wider/taller. On the POTF2 version there the base is fairly short and hits the snow line pretty quickly. It appears as if the snow/rock base has been left off, other than what appears to be a blue cardboard mock-up. If you look closely behind Han you can make out what looks to be the base portion of the turret. It is definitely bigger than the POTF2 version. There looks to bee more paneling detailing on the top part of the turret as well. That cannon is different too. The POTF2 version has that big bulky muzzle that looks as if it has been corrected on this new version, though it could be an optical illusion based on the paint and the background color. But the absence of that little nubby thing that was on the POTF2 version leads me to believe it is new.
I really do get more and more excited for this set everytime I see it. It sure would be nice if the last snowtrooper had also been the VTSC version and we had a good Hoth Rebel, but other than that it looks like a nice set, and a pretty good value. I'm definitely in for one of these. Oh, and if anyone picks up this set and doesn't want the turret, I may be able to help you dump it somewhere. ;)
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Well, if they did retool the turrent, I guess I wouldn't put it passed them to have tooled up new logs for the Endor set.
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Great catch by Chewie - I'm so stuck in my ways in regards to Hasbro and new tooling that I didn't even notice and STILL won't believe it until someone gets their hands on one!
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Well, if they did retool the turrent, I guess I wouldn't put it passed them to have tooled up new logs for the Endor set.
I was reasoning along the same lines.
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Cracked this set open last night. First, I have to say it was a major pain in the tush to release the figures from their confinement and very time consuming. The however, it's just a fun, fun collection of plastic.
The disappointments are the rebel trooper, repaint Derlin and the POTF2 trooper, but that's about all.
Turret - All new. It's a bit fat, so I'm imagine it's not movie accurate, but very sturdy with lots of play value.
At-St - just a repaint, but hey, it's an At-St with all the exterior stickers painted on.
Luke - excellent paint application. It makes the figure. The standard Zev grips apply and the helmet seems to be a bit loose. Also, for some reason he has a ROTJ saber with a blue blade. Don't know how that one happened.
Han - just the blue variant with no cap.
Derlin Repaint - just that, and with crappy puny blaster,
At-St Driver - unique head, different from Endor set. Helmet seems loose.
Rebel Soldier - pure crap repaint (sorry Hasbro, but it is.)
Vintage Snowtroopers - fine repaints, but unlike the Endor set, battle wear is identical. Also, hand color is same as the carded figures.
Saga 2 Snowtrooper - again, just a repaint, same a the other Snowtroopers, but his rank marks are all red.
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The turret's without a doubt an all-new sculpt now having seen some photos... The actual movie turrets are fairly fat, and not very tall/large in general. Larger than the POTF2 set by far, more akin to the vintage turret, but shaped much different than the vintage turret was.
Blueprints of the actual set turrets exist and have been put into EU circulation... It's a fairly small piece, and this is looking to be the most accurate one we'll likely ever see. The costs of tooling it up really make me wonder if we'll see this gun again, repainted, maybe with a pack-in Trooper, at some point? I'd buy it in some bulk I think.
The inaccuracy I see in the turret is the gun barrel... Fixable if you have the time/inclination to do so, but beyond that it's a pretty sharp looking piece that's compelling me to get the set JUSt for the turret. Anyone wanting to sell Turrets off? :)
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I'd like to thank all of you for buying these Target Ultimate Battle sets this week...
By buying up all the sets this week, you are increasing my odds of winning the contest when I pick up my sets during the official contest dates. 8)
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Yeah, now you're odds are 1:48,572 vs. 1:50,000.
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I'd like to thank all of you for buying these Target Ultimate Battle sets this week...
By buying up all the sets this week, you are increasing my odds of winning the contest when I pick up my sets during the official contest dates. 8)
Don't lump me in there Jeff. I've been holding off on buying these.
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Yeah, now you're odds are 1:48,572 vs. 1:50,000.
Exactly... with each set that is purchased early, my odds of winning increase.
It's got to be down to 1:46,789 by now, don't you think? :)
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After seeing more pics of the turret at RS, I am really stoked about this set. Might get two now. That turret is awesome.
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I only want the Luke, Han (although the coat is way too purple) and the AT-ST Driver.
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I plan on buying this set but only want the figures. If i decide to get rid of the AT-ST and Turret is anyone interested?
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If ANYONE doesn't want their tower, contact me... The figures aren't necessarilly something I want at this point,b ut I would like getting my mits on a few of the tower actually. By all means drop me a line on it if you want. :)
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I think it's great that the VTSC Snowtrooper repaints have the light tan/bone white color on their body gloves vs the baby blue from the carded release. The spurts of rust don't make sense, but should be easily removable with goof off or something. I have to admit, that tower is impressive too.
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I'm interested in the Vintage Snowtroopers and the At-St Driver of a second set if anyone wants to look into splitting one.
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I'm interested in the Vintage Snowtroopers and the At-St Driver of a second set if anyone wants to look into splitting one.
Might take you up on that if I can find some on clearance. Not worth it for the $50 right now though. :-\
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Just in case there is anyone out there STILL not thinking that the tower is new... check out www.galactichunter.com
What a nice surprise this really is. I didn't think it would be THAT much bigger than the old one. I did pick this up last night by the way, and it's even better in person. Finally Hasbro adds some punch for the Rebels on Hoth.
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Wow, I'm surprised Hasbro would sculpt a completely new turret just for this BP. Hopefully they'll release it by itself later. Might be a good time to create a new DS gun station too...
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I definitely think the turret would sell on it's own (maybe with one figure). I'd rather buy a few of those then have to buy this whole Ultra pack just for it and the blue coat Han.
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I definitely think the turret would sell on it's own (maybe with one figure). I'd rather buy a few of those then have to buy this whole Ultra pack just for it and the blue coat Han.
Right, but that's the idea. Several people will want a couple of Turrets, so they'll shell out $50 per set to get them. Hasbro's probably more interested in making money themselves than getting you smaller packs of items to save you money. ;)
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I'm interested in the Vintage Snowtroopers and the At-St Driver of a second set if anyone wants to look into splitting one.
I actually found someone to split a set with. I'm getting all the figures, he's keeping the Tower and the At-St.
I'm keeping the At-St driver and the vintage snowtroopers, everybody else is fair game for trade if you don't want the At-St driver from either of the packs. ;)
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Anton, I'd take the Luke if still available!
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This thing took 10 minutes to get out of the box, but it was worth it. I love the new turret and the deco on the at-st, but I posted the figures in the classifieds.
The logs weren't enough to get me to bite on Endor, if they had made a plastic tree with an ewok hutt in it, they probably would have had me. Especially if it had 1/2 a bridge, and then you could get 2 and join them.
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Yeah, the logs are really, really lame in my opinion. After seeing this in person, I just couldn't get the Endor set. I doubt I would even drop $20.00 to get it. Almost everything in it other than the silly logs is a rehash of some sort that I've seen on clearance...
Now, if they had included some sort of tree rather than the logs, I'd have probably of caved in. Somethign around the size of this Schleich tree would have been great, as one thing we are really lacking is enviroment pieces for dioramas:
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/111607naboo1.jpg)
Edit - Scheich also makes a lot of other trees for those interested. They're not cheap, but cool as hell - I've shopped a few times for Shleich stuff at this site (http://www.dianatoystore.com/wilibysc.html).
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Scheich also makes a lot of other trees for those interested. They're not cheap, but cool as hell
The pic of the one you posted with the Gungan sucks, IMO.
The Hoth set is worth picking up, but the Endor set sucks.
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Anton, I'd take the Luke if still available!
If you have a WOW At-St driver, shoot me a PM.
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Got mine today... Havne't even opened it, but as I noted somewhere else, the Hoth one was actually semi-rough to track down today. First Target was 100% out of both packs, the next Target an hour away said they had 4 Hoth ones, but when I got there they were down to 2 of the Hoth one... Glad I got the one I did.
Again, if anyone's selling the gun tower, keep me in mind. I'd like another or three ( ;) ) of those. I may be posting some figures for sale from this set as well, as I don't want them all.
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I got mine today as well, and the Target I went to this morning definitely had more of the Endor ones available than this one. This evening, I popped into another Target while my wife went shopping at Babies R' Us, and surprisingly, there were only about 6 or so Hoths available. I personally prefer the Hoth pack over Endor.
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I ran over to Target shortly after opening on Sunday (about 8:30) and found the UBPs on the endcap. There wasn't any picked up yet (they had 8 of each on the endcap) and I grabbed the Hoth pack. I wouldn't mind having the Endor pack (mainly for the Ewoks, even though they are just repaints), but I'll likely only get that if it hits clearance. It will be interesting to see how these sell. They really are a pretty good deal for what you get, and would be a nice gift for a kiddo too.
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The pic of the one you posted with the Gungan sucks, IMO.
I'm sure my photo skills aren't quite as sharp as yours, but this tree (http://www.schleich-s.de/cms_schleich/shop/index.php?partner=standard&lang=1&startnode=1&mod=det&wo=news&do=news&code=1163544684810&okat=93) is actually quite good.
Regarding the Hoth set, I picked up one last week and another Sunday morning. They had 12 Hoth and 16 Endor sets still when I left.
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I got mine today as well, and the Target I went to this morning definitely had more of the Endor ones available than this one. This evening, I popped into another Target while my wife went shopping at Babies R' Us, and surprisingly, there were only about 6 or so Hoths available. I personally prefer the Hoth pack over Endor.
Hey King Maul you wouldn't have happened to be in Cerritos were you?
I was lucky to score one on Wed. because when I went back to look over the Endor sets again the Hoth's were all gone. Went out on Black Friday though and the end cap was full all the way to the floor, literally there were 2 Endors sitting on the floor with no room left on the endcap.
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Hi jedipurge, I was at the West Covina Target (off the 10 Frwy).
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Anyone know if Target will be getting more Hoth/Endor UBP's? I managed to score one of each, but i want another Hoth. All Target stores in my area sold out in 1 day. Also, do the helmets come off the Snowies, just wondering, i can't bring myself to open them yet.
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Helmets come off the two vintage snowtroopers...
About reshipments, these were a one-time-deal for the "Wow Or Never" promotion, and no secondary shipments were expected or listed. Things change of course, and I believe most retailers have options of buying more if they want, but I don't think you'll see it with these sets.
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I was hoping on picking up a few more of these on clearance even though $49.00 is a steal for this set, but these sets seemed to have all but dried up here. Thank god these weren't WM exclusives though :)
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I couldn't bring myself to drop $50 on this set. I did want the turret which is worth $15 to 20 to me, and the AT-ST driver and 2 VTAC snowies are worth about $7 each to me, so at most this set is worth about $40 as I didn't want anything else in it. Nothing else in it has any value to me at all.
Even at that, I almost bought it, but really didn't want to part with the $50.
My Targets still have some as of today, I may change my mind yet. But the Endor set is a definite "no go" for me.
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I couldn't bring myself to drop $50 on this set. I did want the turret which is worth $15 to 20 to me, and the AT-ST driver and 2 VTAC snowies are worth about $7 each to me, so at most this set is worth about $40 as I didn't want anything else in it. Nothing else in it has any value to me at all.
Even at that, I almost bought it, but really didn't want to part with the $50.
My Targets still have some as of today, I may change my mind yet. But the Endor set is a definite "no go" for me.
I agree, Im going to save the $50 for the upcoming evolutions packs! Here is a great idea for a Ultimate Batttle Pack, what about doing Jabbas Palace w/ a new Jabba??? think of all the great things they could include in that pack!
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I couldn't bring myself to drop $50 on this set. I did want the turret which is worth $15 to 20 to me, and the AT-ST driver and 2 VTAC snowies are worth about $7 each to me, so at most this set is worth about $40 as I didn't want anything else in it. Nothing else in it has any value to me at all.
I split a set with someone and took all the figures just for the Vintage Snowtroopers and the At-St driver. I put the rest up for trade and got numerous inquiries for the Luke and Han and had someone interested in all the figures. You might be able to turn the figures you don't want into ones you do.
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There are still a few of the UBPs hanging around our Target, although they have now been moved. They originally had their own endcap, but now they have 6-8 sets on the bottom of a different endcap (I forget what was on top, but it wasn't Star Wars), and they have 1 or 2 shoved in the regular action figure aisle on the bottom shelf (next to the SW vehicles). It was kind of neat this past weekend when we were out Christmas shopping we saw two boys stop and look at them and go "aw, cooool - look at this". It really would be a great gift for a kid, you have all you need for a nice setup on Christmas morning :). I'm really hoping some of either set will make it to clearance though, but not counting on it.
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An ultimate Jabba's Palace battle pack would be incredible.
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Hoth packs are bigtime dwindling here. I saw one tonight, but that's it... At least 7 Endor packs though. Methinks I made the right choice on which one I picked up, and hopefully I can get a ROTJ Endor one on clearance for the Ewoks.
Anyone interested in the Luke, Han, Rebel, Snow Officer, and AT-ST from a Hoth set by the way? All in one bundle, but they're up for grabs as a lot. :-\
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I couldn't bring myself to drop $50 on this set. I did want the turret which is worth $15 to 20 to me, and the AT-ST driver and 2 VTAC snowies are worth about $7 each to me, so at most this set is worth about $40 as I didn't want anything else in it. Nothing else in it has any value to me at all.
Even at that, I almost bought it, but really didn't want to part with the $50.
My Targets still have some as of today, I may change my mind yet. But the Endor set is a definite "no go" for me.
Well, I waited 1 month, and I got it for $12 today. Best deal ever. I might have gotten the Endor too for this price but there weren't any. I'd have expected the opposite.
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That's an incredible price. I bit at $50, and I'm (somewhat) glad I did, because I never even saw them at the $37 mark down.
For $12 I'd have bought as many as I could find just for the troops and turrets.
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Does anyone have a Luke Snowspeeder Pilot they don't want from the set? I'd like to add one to my Rebel Pilot display. Hmmm... maybe the AT-ST too since I don't have a modern one. :)
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Jesse, if you aren't picky about the Hoth Deco, I've got an extra POTJ AT-ST to part with (it has Endor deco on it), PM me if you're interested.
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Does anyone have a Luke Snowspeeder Pilot they don't want from the set? I'd like to add one to my Rebel Pilot display. Hmmm... maybe the AT-ST too since I don't have a modern one. :)
I may have a spare of each for you if you still need them. 8)
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I'm looking for a Snowspeeder Luke as well if anyone has an extra.
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I have:
-AT-ST
-Luke Snowspeeder
-Hoth Rebel Soldier
-Blue Coat Han
-Imperial Trooper Officer variant
That'd I'd like to sell as a lot actually... If anyone's wanting to buy more than just a figure, I can help out...
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Not a bad set.
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I passed on the UBP eariler in in favor of other items, but was able to grab both a Hoth and Endor today for the bonus
$12 price. (insert image of me doing the dance of joy here). I love Target! ;D
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You're lucky. A lot of people are whining because they passed on these expecting to pick them up on clearance, but are unable to find any now.
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You're lucky. A lot of people are whining because they passed on these expecting to pick them up on clearance, but are unable to find any now.
Exactly why I bought one Hoth set at full retail. I knew I wanted one and got it. Then just hoped to find 2 more at clearance but made up my mind that if I didn't that I'd be happy with the one.
This is the same philosophy I'm going to take with the AT-TE. I'll buy one a full retail, then HOPE to get 2-4 more on clearance.
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Man, to find either of these sets for the $12 clearance price would be a tremendous deal. I wanted the Hoth one for sure, so picked it up at full price, and thought I'd "wait and see" for the Endor one or additional ones later on. I'm glad I got the Hoth one when I did, because these never hit clearance here and sold out fairly quickly.
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My area never has anything left to go on sale. I am envious of alot of you. These sets were gone by the end of black friday weekend by me. Have not seen any since.
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Can't believe people are finding this for $12. Amazing. :o
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Amazingly in my heavy traffic/heavily picked over Target I found a Hoth and Endor set yesterday. They were tagged $35, so I was not sure about getting it, but hung on to the Hoth set to decide. Ended up scanning the set on one of the scanners and it came up $12. To say the least I just about ran back to grab the Endor set, but it was gone by the time I got there. Around the corner I found the family that got it and they had 3 UBP's in their cart (2 endor, 1 hoth).
I had always liked the Hoth set but it just did not have enough that I wanted to justify $50 (or even $35). But drop that price to $12 and that is $6 for the VTAC Snowtrooper's alone!
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I saw one for $35 the other day. Almost grabbed it, it was gone today.
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I have yet to see one below $49. I have searched high & low and no signs of captain solo..I mean UBPs. Consider yourself lucky if you see one and buy it on the spot!
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I picked up a few extra at $35, which feels like a pretty good bargain. $12 is ridiculous!
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I picked up a few extra at $35, which feels like a pretty good bargain. $12 is ridiculous!
Maybe you can give Target the difference as a donation for their school charity thing?
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I picked up a few extra at $35, which feels like a pretty good bargain. $12 is ridiculous!
Maybe you can give Target the difference as a donation for their school charity thing?
Um....the difference between what? Looks to me like I already overpaid. ???
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These have been gone since X-Mas in my Target, but I may have to check to see if they put a few out that they forgot about...
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These have been gone since X-Mas in my Target, but I may have to check to see if they put a few out that they forgot about...
Couldn't hurt, all of mine stores had been sold out for weeks, but I've seen a few stragglers in the clearance section over the past week. Could have been returns or stashes.
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Luke needs his shinguards on his boots.
Probably a legacy Luke hoth pilot will be such updated
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Or, one can swap heads and make one with a Legacy Evo pack pilot.
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So Adam May won the Target WOW contest to be made into plastic, congrats to him.
Is it me or does it seem a little fishy that a semi-web famous SW guru won the contest?
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I think it's even weirder that he's the guy whose site 'ruined the surprise' by revealing the BMF. ;D
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Who is Adam May?
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Who is Adam May?
Brian May's brother. ;) He wishes.
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Who is Adam May?
Brian May's brother. ;) He wishes.
Umm..who is Brian May?
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Guitarist for Queen.
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Is it me or does it seem a little fishy that a semi-web famous SW guru won the contest?
I was thinking that as well.
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The international version of the HOTH UBP contains 3x TSC Snowtroopers and NO VOTC Snowtroopers at all.
Just in case anyone's into the whole variantion thing;
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/arctrooper/PA293776.jpg)
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That sucks... It's not bad enough that distribution overseas is crummy anyway but then to get shafted on quality figures? That's just weak on Hasbro's part.
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That sucks... It's not bad enough that distribution overseas is crummy anyway but then to get shafted on quality figures? That's just weak on Hasbro's part.
On the other hand, it's nice that 95% of what we received here is being offered to the international public, seeing as how a lot of stuff just isn't available at all.
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It's nice if all you wanted were the tower and an AT-ST or something, but it does suck that we get vastly superior figures that make up at least two of the set. The tower rocks, and was worth the price (to me) last year, but the price of the set sure was a lot easier to swallow knowing you got 2 VOTC Snowtroopers, and some other good stuff in it.
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Would have been nice if they had at least mentioned it or something!
Where's that damn memo?!!
;)
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It's nice if all you wanted were the tower and an AT-ST or something, but it does suck that we get vastly superior figures that make up at least two of the set. The tower rocks, and was worth the price (to me) last year, but the price of the set sure was a lot easier to swallow knowing you got 2 VOTC Snowtroopers, and some other good stuff in it.
I don't know - most people I've talked bought it mainly for the Turret. Most of the "new" figures are the same, so I don't see the Snowtrooper switch as much of a loss. Hasbro could have just left the set two snowtroopers short as well. I personally would rather have saved $5-10 on the set if it meant taking these instead of the SA version.
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Hasbro doesn't work that way though... So you get a shoddier figure by comparison. I don't see how that's possibly considered "positive" really. Taking two figures out all together also isn't much of an argument as it's just taking the already ****** scenario for the consumer, and making it worse. It's kinda like saying, "Yeah, well we could've left the radio out of your car" when arguing the value of a new vehicle...
To me, and I bought it mostlly for the turret as well, selling the extras off for the most part, the Hoth Troopers were a great (and new at the time) repaint of a great figure, so the price broke up a little nicer/easier to stomach because you at least got some cool figures... Likewise the Derlin repaint was sorta ok too. So again he factored in (to me) on the "value" of the set... The Officer I felt sorta blew, so he didn't rank high to me, and so getting 3 of him and losing 2 superior figures hurts the value of the set to me. I guess it depends largely on if you think the Saga figure is good in the first place.
It wouldn't be a deal breaker to me had this set come out this year, I'd still want the tower, but I'd have been selling all the pieces of the set to recoop the cost except for Derlin and the tower, rather than hanging onto some pretty fantastic army builders like I did.
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The snowtroopers have popped up via Asia area sellers
Hoth Battle Snowtroopers (http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-5-Star-Wars-Battle-Hoth-Snowtrooper-/390294488620?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5adf5d462c)