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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => 30th Anniversary Collection => Topic started by: Reid on June 25, 2006, 03:00 PM
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Coins are going to be packed in with the 3 3/4' basic figures instead of thye mini holograms, what do you think about this? Would you rather have mini holos return, or have coins take over? Although I thought the mini holos was a cool idea when we first heard about it and the Carkoon wave hit, frankly now that I have about 10 of them I am a bit bored with them. I wasn't around to experience the first go-round of coins with the POTF figures, but I am excited with the prospect of them returning in the '07 Saga Collection.
Your thoughts?
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Anything is a better idea than the lame holos ::)
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I'll bet they start out with silver coins, and then halfway through the year they switch to gold.
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Yeah, something like that. Or maybe the basic figures will all have the same color coin through the whole line (I'd expect silver), and then 10 of the figures will have chase variations with gold coins.
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I rather my action figures come with accessories and not other useless crap.
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I'd rather my figures move beyond 1983 and have knee, elbow, and wrist joints become a standard in the line... Pack-ins like the mini holos cost more than people realize I think, and coins I can't imagine will be much better... I have no interest in pack-in garbage anymore, I would prefer the quality of the toys themselves reach a higher standard considering the retail price they now cost... Static legs and arms just ain't cuttin' the mustard anymore.
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I have no interest in pack-in garbage anymore, I would prefer the quality of the toys themselves reach a higher standard considering the retail price they now cost...
Ditto. :)
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I totally agree Jesse. I want better articulate figures over the junk that doesn't relate to the figure. If they do include something, why don't they add something that can be used we the 3 3/4 figure, but if that takes away from the figures articulation, quailty, etc then leave it out.
roron corobb
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Sorry but I am happy with these ;) Coins and FF's have been my favorite pack-ins for the last 20 years.
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Ditch the pack-ins and give us $5 figures.
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Ditch the pack-ins and give us $5 figures.
With the economy, fuel prices, etc I think the $5 SW figs may be a thing of the past.
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Ditch the pack-ins and give us $5 figures.
With the economy, fuel prices, etc I think the $5 SW figs may be a thing of the past.
eh? What's the difference between now and when ROTS figs hit? I miss my $5 SW figs. I could care less for additional goodies crap thats included with the figure.
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I'd rather my figures move beyond 1983 and have knee, elbow, and wrist joints become a standard in the line... Pack-ins like the mini holos cost more than people realize I think, and coins I can't imagine will be much better... I have no interest in pack-in garbage anymore, I would prefer the quality of the toys themselves reach a higher standard considering the retail price they now cost... Static legs and arms just ain't cuttin' the mustard anymore.
What scares me is the cost of zinc has gone up considerably. (Zinc is the main ingredient fo die cast) So with that said will the cost go up again for this crap.
As Jesse pointed out I think the vast majority of us want more acessories or articulation. At this point i would rather them stay with the holo figures to create a chess set. I cant beleive I said that...............
Its like freeze frames all over again, give up the gimmicks and give us content!
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The coins could be cast in polyvinyl with metalic flake for all we know so i"m not in a panic on it, but to me pack-ins are pack-ins and all run something that negatively impacts the bottom line of the core product. A Force File or Freezeframe's cost is negligible... A miniature holographic figure requires mold toolings, production, special packaging demands...
A coin's going to require tooling too, and if you're right Jack on these being metal (let's say for the sake of argument that's the deal) we're looking at something costlier...
BTW I agree on the price issue with iFett... I've said it before and I'll say it again. If the costs of oil for manufacturers suddenly spiked Star Wars figures up $2 from last year, you'd be seeing similar increases elsewhere in anything within the plastics industry. The jump is just a price spike from retail (I blame them more than Hasbro, however Hasbro's got the blame for what the product ultimately is for the price irregardless). The fact TRU or KB Toys can run sales for weeks at a time where figures come down to $4.50 or so, and they still profit well, is enough to hate these prices.
$6.99 figures of course aren't anything new to the line, but they sure suck compared to what we paid last year, combined with what we got in terms of quality last year.
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I have not seen $5 since midway through the ROTS line. So actually prices did change in my region. With the price of gas, I think that figures are reflecting that . Where I live, TRU, WM and Targets all sell these at a minimum of $6.83 (Walmarts price). So that right there is about a 27% rise in price. That is huge.
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I'd accept that if it were everywhere, especially in the toy aisle, but JUST Star Wars going up doesn't cut the mustard for oil/gas as an excuse with me... And like I said, with the stores willing to run sales that put figures below $5 (and run them for extended periods of time) and still have them be quite profitable, I really don't buy the price increases... It's retail capitalizing on something it deems popular yet, not inflation, at least to me anyway.
Now if you looked around the store and saw that Lego sets spiked, GI Joe, Marvel, Barbie, etc., all going up in price... And if you went to the store and tupper ware, or pens, or toothbrushes, or whatnot went up in price in great jumps, I'd buy into it... $6.99 has been here for SW though and it was really a price jack at that time too... For ROTS I saw $4.99 to $5.89... It varied. $6.99 at KM and KB though.
In my area at least one Target is $5.89 for some reason, others $6.99 and slightly less (WM). I know others have those anomylous Targets too, sometimes more frequent or that's their standard for the area... It's not my area's unfortunately.
Like I said, I'd agree if this wasn't focused in the toy aisle on one product line... If this was measurable around other products and things... My distributors in plastics manufacturing all tell me though that the cost increases are greatly exagerrated in how they will impact the consumer, at least from their perspectives. With this just seemingly being Star Wars, I'm going to say the simpler explanation is probably the right one in that this is just retail/Hasbro pushing the envelope on price to me.
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I agree.
Retail and Hasbro have figured out that collectors can be "pushed" to pay close to $7 for figures. TSC figures were selling well at $5.88 at Wallyworld - they bumped up the price to $6.63 and the rate of sale seems to be the same (judging by the number of figures on the pegs on store visits).
Did the price of plastic jump that much in a few weeks? Probably not, and if it did, that's a real quick turnaround time for a huge toy company.
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I have no interest in pack-in garbage anymore, I would prefer the quality of the toys themselves reach a higher standard considering the retail price they now cost...
Ditto. :)
Same here. Or at the very least, the pack in should be a useful accessory.
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No coins please. Perhaps a build a charcter gimmick like with Marvel Legends?
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I'd rather my figures move beyond 1983 and have knee, elbow, and wrist joints become a standard in the line... Pack-ins like the mini holos cost more than people realize I think, and coins I can't imagine will be much better... I have no interest in pack-in garbage anymore, I would prefer the quality of the toys themselves reach a higher standard considering the retail price they now cost... Static legs and arms just ain't cuttin' the mustard anymore.
I agree.
Or like MetalJedi said, some sort of character gimmick like with Marvel would be great because you can get an actual figure built from it, or God forbit - a nice accessory!!!
:)
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I'm in the same boat as many of you - I'd rather have either cheaper figures, more articulation/quality in the figures themselves, or both than have a pack in. That being said, since pack ins seem to be part of the line now, I don't mind the coins. Kind of a nice nod to the vintage POTF days, and if we're going to have a pack in, this doesn't sound so bad to me.
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If a pack in is going to be part of the deal, I like the coin idea. I liked the Freeze Frames as well, and actually pull them out and view them sometimes (we have an old slide viewer). Coins are much preferable to holos, but I would ultimately rather get more accessories or props with the figure. Background droids, fuel tanks, console parts, just about anything to fill in the scenes.
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I actually like the idea of the coins as a pack-in (runs for cover). For some reason Hasbro feels like they MUST put a pack-in of some kind. I am assuming to spice up the packaging? You know how every product has to say something like "New and Improved!" I think this is Hasbro's version of that.
But sure if they wanted to make every figure SA or give it an accessory that would be much nicer. I agree. But it ain't gonna happen. They love those pack-ins and that's that.
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As being the only person here who is looking forward to these. Would this not be the perfect opportunity to roll out a VOTC POTF line next year?
SA Luke Stormtrooper
SA Emperor
R2-D2 pop-up saber
Gamorrean Guard
Nikto
B-Wing Pilot
Yakface
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It would be. At Yakface, I asked that very same question to Hasbro and they gave us the "Not at this time" response.
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If we have to have a pack-in, I'd definately prefer a coin (ala POTF) over a random hologram thing... I'd much rather have a collection of character coins than gummy-bear Darth Vaders.
I'd much rather have the dime flipped towards knee articulation, and accessories, actually...
Good thread.
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Accessories are the way to go...
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Let's hope it stays at $6 bucks instead of $80. :-\
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Accessories are the way to go...
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Damn right brother! I want accessory crap for the figures!
Overall if we must, coins are better than holos.
The red globs really suck. Why did they choose red?
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Accesories make too much sense. So they won't do it.
Since have been doing themed waved, a themed accesory woudl make sens e(like the 3 Tatooine figures with the bar table.) The Hoth figures could have had crates and containers found in the rebel base or they coudl do themed stands insteand of holos and generic stands....Carkoon wave with a generic Jabba Palace floor tile stand, or even Tatooine sandy terrain stand/tile. Nah, we get coins, holos, the ever popular Flashback card things...i.e. crap for the junk box.
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It would be better if I could send in my coins for a free figure.....
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It would be better if I could send in my coins for a free figure.....
Even better than that, Proof of purchase points or upc's for a free figure or weapons pack. I missed that whole ebay debactle on hasbro's auctions for Jedi master points. I still save them just in case!
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It would be better if I could send in my coins for a free figure.....
I really like that idea.
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I'd have rathered they saved the coins for the VTSC eventually getting into the POTF realm.
Coins are cool - but not if they just do 12 and package those 12 with everyone. Each figure should have their own.
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Each figure should have their own.
Yup. That's definitely the way it should be.
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So..... has anyone heard if the coins are gonna be metal??
Cause those pics look like vac-chrome plastic to me.
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I haven't heard either, but I thought they looked sort of plasticy as well.
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With the price of zinc at an all time high, I wouldn't be surprised if the coins were indeed plastic.
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Isn't the price of metal really high right now? I know that it actually costs more than one cent to produce a penny right now. And it costs more than 5 cents to produce a nickel.
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I actually am digging the coins irregardless of their material, however when push comes to shove this stuff is a cost... The folks at Hasbro claim cheap costs, but it's a cost and I think they bite it more thanthey let on sometimes on stuff like this.
I'm a fan of just getting a great figure, none of these gimmicks. The coins are better than holographic figures and I love the holder for them, but I could do without it all and just get figures that I personally felt were WORTH $7 a piece...
In 2006, Hasbro's not delivered that level of $7 figure quality steadily. It's been hit and miss at best when you get figures like Jerjerrod, Derlin, etc... $7 is tough to choke down for those unposeable, under accessorized figures. I'm warming up to the coins though, at least a little bit.
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I like the coin gimmick as well. Especially for us older guys, the coins harken back to those later stages of SW collecting in the 80s. Those original POTF coins had a certain weight and sound to them, hopefully these new coins will play off of that as well.
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Those Pics of the first wave do make the coin pack-in look better. I am glad it is part of the packaging design instead of a blob of colored plastic hidden in the back. They are most likely plastic, but I will hold out hope that they used metal. Nothing screams cheap like plastic coins.
If the troopers keep coming out in this quantity and quality through 2007, I will have a small treasure chest of coins.
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I love them. I am a huge fan of the originals and this is probbaly one of the better pack-ins.
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Yep, I actually like the coins. I just wish they would include the stands as well. Oh well, can't have everything for $7 apparently. I actually like the coin album to.
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I like the coin gimmick as well. Especially for us older guys, the coins harken back to those later stages of SW collecting in the 80s. Those original POTF coins had a certain weight and sound to them, hopefully these new coins will play off of that as well.
Hopefully these won't have the same dubious honor of signaling the end of the line. :P
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The Entertainment earth information says the coins are aluminum- I guess we'll find out soon enough!
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Put a peg on the coin and make it dual-use pack-in.
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Collecting actual physical 30AC coins isn't enough for you?
Then be sure to check out Hasbro's new Star Wars Galaxy of Coins (http://hasbro.com/starwars/default.cfm?page=Entertainment/VirtualCoin) to collect another 50 vitual coins! :P
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-07/virtualcoins.jpg)
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What are the chances we get all of them and Hasbro send us a special coin? ;D
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3 years later and I've finally completed my coin collection. Yay me!
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What took so long, just not focused on the goal or did you have to track down a con exclusive or something?
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I had a hell of a time finding the Spirit Anakin one. I kept finding it carded on ebay, but it was the rerelease with the stand instead of the coin. I finally found a loose Anakin and the seller included the coin.
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I think I still may need the SDCC Star Wars coin. I have all the others, including the Toy Fair coin thanks to Rob. Just never go tthe SDCC one.