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Title: NBA 2006-07
Post by: Neal on October 31, 2006, 10:19 PM
This may be the worst opening night performance I've ever seen from a defending champion.  Wade is going to need some help, boys. 
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07
Post by: JayDouble on November 1, 2006, 01:24 AM
Way to show up flat.  Besides Wade, the rest of the team just looks old.  Good news is they probably only need 45 wins to make the playoffs in the east.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07
Post by: Neal on November 1, 2006, 08:18 AM
  Good news is they probably only need 45 wins to make the playoffs in the east.

Yeah ... if even that.  Wade was 10-15 from the field for 25 points ... and he only played 32 minutes.  If you really want to see something disgusting, take his numbers out of the Heat's offensive numbers.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Brian on November 1, 2006, 09:05 AM
Yeah, that was ugly - yikes.  You said it well, the team (aside from Wade) looked old.  I'm sure it was just a bad night and things will turn around, but the Bulls sure took it to them tonight.  I was more disappointed that the Suns couldn't beat the Kobe-less Lakers.  It was nice to see Amare back on the floor, if only for 11 minutes or so.  Hopefully he can get back to form.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Matt on November 1, 2006, 09:19 AM
Time to find a new favorite team!
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Neal on November 1, 2006, 09:24 AM
Time to find a new favorite team!

As long as Wade plays for the Heat, they will be the team that I follow.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Neal on November 1, 2006, 09:27 AM
  It was nice to see Amare back on the floor, if only for 11 minutes or so.  Hopefully he can get back to form.

Yeah, I hope so as well.  I like watching the Suns play, and I always liked Amare.  The guy was a freak of nature before his injury.  Hopefully he can fully recover and dominate again.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2006, 09:27 AM
You need to get with Ron Artest and Sac-town, Neal, there' more room for you on our bandwagon.  Plus, Ron Artest cares about the little childrens:

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/66/full.getty-72132894rw002_kings_7_15_23_pm.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Scott on November 1, 2006, 09:36 AM
You need to get with Ron Artest and Sac-town, Neal, there' more room for you on our bandwagon.  Plus, Ron Artest cares about the little childrens:

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/66/full.getty-72132894rw002_kings_7_15_23_pm.jpg)
Your man crush is a little disturbing
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 1, 2006, 10:34 AM
 Plus, Ron Artest cares about the little childrens:

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/66/full.getty-72132894rw002_kings_7_15_23_pm.jpg)

It's  lil' chilrens, Dressel.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Neal on November 1, 2006, 10:42 AM
You need to get with Ron Artest and Sac-town, Neal, there' more room for you on our bandwagon.  Plus, Ron Artest cares about the little childrens:


Hahaha ... no thanks.  I have nothing against Sacramento, and the unintential comedy that Artest provides every season is through the roof, but I think I'll stick with Wade and the Heat. 
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2006, 02:19 PM
Lil' chilrens indeed.

I'm just gonna predict Ron Artest's numbers this season, provided he can shut his mouth and stay out of trouble the whole year.

FG%: 45
3's/game: 1.2
Reb/game: 6
AST/game: 4
STL/game: 2.5
BLK/game: 1
PPG: 20

He's just such a complete well-rounded player and a monster defensively.  Not to mention a smooth-lookin' son of a bitch.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 1, 2006, 02:42 PM
Did you borrow those numbers from last year Dressel? They look familiar. I actually for one think the team will be improved this year--especially on defense.
Sounds good anyway. My brother got to go to a couple preaseason games and has tickets to 4 home games already, the rat-bastard! Go Kings 2007!!
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on November 1, 2006, 04:40 PM
wade should have charged the devil at least one more game for his soul.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on November 1, 2006, 10:33 PM
wade should have charged the devil at least one more game for his soul.

Spoken like a true Mavs' fan.
 ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Jediknight760071 on November 2, 2006, 01:53 AM
Good thing I'm watching the Bulls this year...


Except for tonight's game.  :-\


On the other hand...Lakers can win without Kobe?! :o Good News. :)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-2007 Season
Post by: Jeff on November 2, 2006, 10:05 AM
You need to get with Ron Artest and Sac-town

He did look pretty good last night... though the T-Wolves still managed a win.   ;)

Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 2, 2006, 01:53 PM
Mmmm.  He looks good every night. 

Every day too.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on November 2, 2006, 03:22 PM
Mmmm.  He looks good every night. 

Every day too.

OK ... now you're starting to scare me.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on November 2, 2006, 04:06 PM
wade should have charged the devil at least one more game for his soul.

Spoken like a true Mavs' fan.
 ;)

i never denied that.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on November 2, 2006, 04:29 PM
i never denied that.

I know.  I can understand why you still have nightmares of Wade.
And I like that you've added the Mavs' flag to your signature.  I think that all of us that regularly post in this thread should support our teams.  Thanks for starting the trend, Dressel.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 2, 2006, 06:49 PM
Ha! Can we wave the flags with crossouts in them for teams we hate AS WELL teams we support?

I would wave the silly flags too if I knew where to get it ::)

The DS
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 2, 2006, 07:04 PM
Ha! Can we wave the flags with crossouts in them for teams we hate AS WELL teams we support?

I would wave the silly flags too if I knew where to get it ::)

The DS

There's a moderater-implemented limit of 1 flag per sig line.  So it doesn't pay to post the hater flags.

The web addresses are:

NBA (http://ideaspot.net/nba)

NFL (http://ideaspot.net/nfl)

MLB (http://ideaspot.net/mlb)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 2, 2006, 09:34 PM
thanks
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on November 2, 2006, 10:52 PM
My flag is up.

I love the way the Lakers are using the triangle.  They're actually making everyone on on the offense an option. 

I just hope it continues when Kobe comes back.  I'm actually one of the few Laker fans who hates the way Kobe plays 85% of the time.   I would much rather see Kobe's line around 29ppg, 5-6 rebs, & 6-7 asst.  But with him, it's more likey 34ppg, 3 rebs, & 3 asst.   ::)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on November 3, 2006, 08:09 AM
I just hope it continues when Kobe comes back.  I'm actually one of the few Laker fans who hates the way Kobe plays 85% of the time.   I would much rather see Kobe's line around 29ppg, 5-6 rebs, & 6-7 asst.  But with him, it's more likey 34ppg, 3 rebs, & 3 asst.   ::)

I completely agree.  It should be no different with Kobe and the Triangle than it was with Jordan.  And Odom can be Kobe's Pippen.  Jordan still scored around 30 ppg while operating within the Triangle, but it never seemed like the rest of the team wasn't involved.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Jediknight760071 on November 4, 2006, 12:46 AM
I've raised my colors. :)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 4, 2006, 09:22 AM
I've raised my colors. :)

And then Ron Artest tore them down!! 

Did anyone see the way Artest just took over that game last night, started throwing Bulls every which way, drove up and down the court all sweaty and whatnot stealing balls and scoring furiously in the final minutes?

What a stud.  Oh how I envy Ben Wallace in this moment:

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/d8/full.getty-71797326jd010_sacramento_ki_12_20_19_am.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JohnH on November 4, 2006, 09:43 AM
Funny story.  I had Artest, Wallace, and Stephen Jackson on my fantasy team the year of "the incident".  Well, it's funny now, but I wasn't too pleased then.  :)

Artest has been rocking out so far this year.  A lot of talent...you just wonder what issues will get in the way year after year. 

John
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on November 4, 2006, 10:59 PM
dang... the mavs are 0-2.     can i call it a rebuilding year yet?
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on November 5, 2006, 07:43 PM
dang... the mavs are 0-2.     can i call it a rebuilding year yet?

The Heat aren't much better at 1-2.  I wouldn't worry too much ... yet.  When it matters come Playoff time, I think both teams will be in the thick of things.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 7, 2006, 11:02 AM
KINGS!! Go SACTO!

but, oh no Miller.... :'(
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 8, 2006, 06:28 AM
Lebron is so cool he can even stop playing when he wants ::)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on November 8, 2006, 04:06 PM
Lebron is so cool he can even stop playing when he wants ::)

I saw that.  What a disgrace, he needs to be singled out in the media for it.  But since, he's the darling of the NBA the media will let it slide.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 8, 2006, 04:18 PM
Everything you guys are talking about are moot points because Ron Artest is playing tonight and that's really all anyone needs to pay attention to.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 8, 2006, 04:25 PM
The Sports talk radio show I was listening to last night when it happened was already saying it was being blown out of proportion ..that he is a kid and that's why Jordan, Bird and many other greats never did that in the pros. On the flip side some analyst callers were mentioning how they never have seen that in 5-10 years (hundreds of games watched). Like you mentioned though Jay, a "superstar" like that will never get in trouble-hated for it..even though he WAS booed out of the stadium..INCLUDING CAVS fans at the game.

They (the sportstation) aired over and over the announcer yelling about him walking off the court with 7 seconds to go. It WAS funny though..in his apparent combined ire and disbelief he mocked James as "what a good Sport he is" referring to James indifferent attitude to the whole manner of leaving his teammates on the floor.

Disgusting..Oh well.
I think if Randy Moss made the OTHER decision and went into the NBA instead
that you would see this type of behaviour from him too.

The DS
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 8, 2006, 04:28 PM
Everything you guys are talking about are moot points because Ron Artest is playing tonight and that's really all anyone needs to pay attention to.

Are you talking again? ;)

That's a good point Drezz, I'll give you that. Though somehow, someway, I  DO NOT think I/we'll be looking AT him the way you will be. I will be watching the game though.

The DS
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on November 8, 2006, 04:46 PM
Lebron is so cool he can even stop playing when he wants ::)

I didn't see it and find it disappointing.  I'd thought he had more to him than that.  Still, in this day and age I suppose it's more the norm than anything else.  Considering his homie's are running his management, intelligent decisions aren't likely to be forthcoming.  Yeah, you can market gold pretty easily, but you can market it better.  Not like anyone on the gravy train is going to **** on him, NBA included. 
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on November 9, 2006, 05:07 PM
it took all season last year to tie a team record of 60 wins, but it only took 4 to set a new one this year.  just 18 more L's to tie all of last year.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 9, 2006, 06:36 PM
KINGS RULE

(okay, sorry but had to say that)

--J
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 9, 2006, 06:41 PM
KINGS RULE

(okay, sorry but had to say that)

--J

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/64/full.getty-71797343rw016_pistons_kings_1_42_45_am.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on November 9, 2006, 07:56 PM
Dressel is actually in that pic with Artest, but he's just below the camera's view.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 10, 2006, 04:06 AM
Was that how he smiled after that huge block last night?
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on November 10, 2006, 10:54 PM
Good showing by the Heat tonight ... and it was on the road against a quality team.  They were down by as much as 17 in the first half, but they pulled it together and dropped 70 points on the Nets in the second half.  Wade had 34 points and 10 assists, and Udonis Haslem added a career-high 28 points.  Nice.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 13, 2006, 02:54 PM
Alright Kings...nice rout last night! Man, they look like they'll be hard to beat at home again this year ;D.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 16, 2006, 03:57 PM
some Joker in my Bro's fantasy league actually proposed a trade of Gary Payton for my Bro's Kevin Martin :P ::).
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on November 18, 2006, 10:45 PM
Tough OT win for the Heat tonight against the Hawks.  Wade filled up the stat sheet again with 37 points, 9 assists, 7 rebounds, 2 steals, and 2 blocked shots.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on November 24, 2006, 11:53 PM
Would someone in the Miami area with a slight semblance of basketball skills please help this man?

(http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/9132a34c-f797-4fd5-a522-1fb3589bb926.jpg)

Thanks.  I appreciate it.
 :(
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on November 25, 2006, 02:38 AM
I think the Jazz have the best half court offense in the NBA.  They're fun to watch, enventhough they beat the Lakers tonight.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 27, 2006, 01:49 PM
(http://static.flickr.com/66/155692406_33b178d8ab_o.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Rob on December 1, 2006, 10:02 PM
Can anyone explain to me how the Mavericks, who are up by 30 on the queens right now, started 0-4?
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 2, 2006, 07:53 PM
Can anyone explain to me how the Mavericks, who are up by 30 on the queens right now, started 0-4?

It's the regular season.  It happens.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 2, 2006, 09:54 PM
Can anyone explain to me how the Mavericks, who are up by 30 on the queens right now, started 0-4?

Neal's wrong.  Terrell Owens started attending Mavericks games and became advisor to the team starting in Game 5.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 4, 2006, 09:06 AM
Here's a question for Neal, how come all 3 of the big men on my fantasy squad (Boris Diaw, Gerald Wallace, and Zydrunas Ilgauskas) can't rebound or block a shot anymore suddenly?

The most horrifying of which is Gerald Wallace who, after blocking 2+ shots a game last year, is averaging 0.3 this season.

Help me Neal, you're my only hope.

EDIT: Not to diss Rasheeeeeeeeed Wallace who has been rebounding and blocking shots like a thief.  He's my 4th big man.  He's fine.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 4, 2006, 11:07 AM
Diaw came into camp fat and out of shape, so he hasn't quite hit his stride yet.  And with Stoudamire back and getting more minutes every game, Diaw may not be as "stat friendly" as he was last year.  Ilgauskas is becoming a bigger and bigger stiff with each passing year.  Yes, his blocks per game this year are down (it doesn't help that he only plays 26 minutes per game) from his career average, but he was never a great shot blocker to begin with ... especially for his size.  I'm not sure what's going on with Wallace.  I know he was fighting injuries early in the season, but all of his numbers are down ... not just his rebounding and shot-blocking. 
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on December 4, 2006, 05:34 PM
Pretty much Diaw isn't involved in the pick & roll with Amare back. 

Z is just getting old. 

GW is playing a lot of 4 with Primoz being hurt and Okafor moving to center.  That leaves less time for him to weak side block and play passing lanes.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on December 4, 2006, 05:40 PM
GW is playing a lot of 4 with Primoz being hurt and Okafor moving to center.  That leaves less time for him to weak side block and play passing lanes.

And he was fouled hard in the first game and hasn't been the same since then. 
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on December 5, 2006, 04:38 PM
Can anyone explain to me how the Mavericks, who are up by 30 on the queens right now, started 0-4?

i can't believe you jinxed the mavs.  at least the game didn't end with them down by 30.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 5, 2006, 09:33 PM
2 minutes to go in the 1st quarter and Steve Nash already has 9 dishes  :o
Title: Re: NBA Offseason 2006
Post by: Morgbug on December 6, 2006, 12:47 PM
Just to keep this thread going ... the Draft is tonight, and the NBA announced that they'll be using a new ball (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2503132) for the first time in 35 years come next season.

Whaaaaaaaaa! (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-stern-newball&prov=ap&type=lgns) I want my old ball back.   ::)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 6, 2006, 02:03 PM
(http://i.a.cnn.net./si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0612/gallery.sportsman2006/images/covercut2.jpg)

And the story is a really good read:

Sportsman of the Year: Dwyane Wade (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/12/05/sportsman1211/index.html)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 6, 2006, 02:40 PM
Giving Wade that award was total bull****.  Ron Artest got ripped off big time.

(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5qgrHHdFoEgBi0KjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=11pi3ba3j/EXP=1165520299/**http%3a//www.nuvo.net/hammer/blog/2.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 6, 2006, 03:44 PM
Giving Wade that award was total bull****.  Ron Artest got ripped off big time.

He'll have his chance to pay Wade back when the Heat and Kings play each other tomorrow night.  Well ... assuming that Artest is back from his sprained vagina by then.
 ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 6, 2006, 04:11 PM
Artest is gonna slap Wade silly and make the riot at the Palace at Auburn Hills look like a boy scouts meeting.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on December 7, 2006, 11:23 PM
Anyone watch the Suns vs Nets?  What an exciting game.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on December 7, 2006, 11:25 PM
I didn't watch, but did just check the score :o  Awesome stuff. 
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 8, 2006, 08:29 AM
This stat line is for you Ron-Ron (and you too, Dressel):

32 points, 11 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocked shots

But the most important number?  Points scored in overtime:

Wade - 7
Kings - 6

(http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/SCA10112080449.jpg)

Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 8, 2006, 09:12 AM
Yeah but Artest came off the bench with the strained back and I saw Dwyane Wade cheating his ass off the whole night as usual.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 8, 2006, 10:53 AM
What about the stat line of Wade's blatant slap on Bibby driving the lane for game winning shot. Superstars like Wade don't receive foul calls on final plays even if everyone in the arena hears the the arm slap foul ::).

Anyway the Kings suck now...Jury's still out on their new coach too, I wonder if Adelman could've have his team win these last 3 crushers Spurs, Magic and now Heat >:(

The DS
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 8, 2006, 11:04 AM
Yeah but Artest came off the bench with the strained back and I saw Dwyane Wade cheating his ass off the whole night as usual.

Care to comment on how he was "cheating his ass off the whole night", and how, in your sick and delusional NBA world, that seems to be a regular occurrence?

Don't be bitter.  Artest D'd Wade up rather well on a few occasions, and the Heat almost gave the game away at the end.  Regardless of who won, the last few minutes of both regulation and OT were ugly.  What was even uglier was that I stayed awake until about 1:30 AM EST to watch the game.  My ass is draggin' today.

And I'll agree that Wade hit Bibby's off-arm, but the refs are only going to blow the whistle in that situation if you behead someone.  Which, like I've always said, is the main reason that NBA officials suck.  They lack in consistency.  There were A LOT of terrible calls last night, on both sides of the ball.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 8, 2006, 09:15 PM
Thanks for recognizing that Neal and lemme just say this..though I'm a Kings fan
They just suck lately and I'm not thrilled about it either..They should play better so the game doesn't come down to final plays..especially at home anyway. Their stat line of 0-3 in close games as of late is crappy.

You know, I think ole Mitch Richmond should come out of the cellar and those these punks how to get it done! >:( ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 8, 2006, 11:46 PM
(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sacramentoteamstore_1923_11901174)

Hey just wondering which of you other NBA fans have ordered the official Ron Artest jersey from www.sacramentokings.com yet.  I'm sure at least half of you have, just looking for some feedback before I put my order in.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on December 8, 2006, 11:56 PM
Uh, no.  I have a Billups fetish, if anything at all.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 10, 2006, 12:56 PM
I love Artest's last line in bold here.  I believe him, too:


Update: Artest (back) was moving so well at Saturday's practice, that Kings coach Eric Musselman said it was "the best he's ever looked, since the first of training camp," the Sacramento Bee reports.

Recommendation: Just two days ago, Artest was saying the back was 75 to 80 percent, but he's feeling much better as the Kings prepare to face the Hawks on Sunday. "I feel I'm back to normal," Artest said. "It's been about three weeks (with the back problems), almost a month, where I couldn't practice a lot, couldn't stay in game shape. Now I get a chance to play at 100 percent, like I can play. A lot of teams are going to have a lot of problems now."
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on December 11, 2006, 05:31 PM
the league is going back to the leather ball on the 1st of jan.  i never even tried or saw the synth ball for sale.   maybe it will become a collectors item.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 13, 2006, 08:37 AM
Dwyane Wade will miss tonight's game against Phoenix due to the oral surgery that he had yesterday.  He had two wisdom teeth removed.  As if there chances against beating the Suns weren't already slim enough .....
 :(

Matt, this is your area of expertise.  How long could this keep Wade out of the lineup for?
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 13, 2006, 08:40 AM
On a different note ... have you picked this up yet, Matt?

(http://www.spawn.com/toys/basketball/nba11/rartest/images/nba11_rartest_photo_01_dp.jpg)

I figured that you could sleep with it at night, or something.
 ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 13, 2006, 06:40 PM
I don't think the NBA McFarlane wave has hit yet, I've only seen Legends so far.  But I'm getting two of that figure, one to open, and one to hang up closed, plus I get to add it all to the Ron Artest Beat 'Em Off Up buddy I already have. 

As for Wade, we don't want you basketball types doing anything strenuous for a day or two after pulling teeth.  The increase in blood pressure due to the exercise has been known to dislodge the clot in the socket.  You're not supposed to travel far either especially in planes, especially if infection was involved.  So he'll only miss a game probably, and the Heat will have to find someone else to cheat their ass off for them to get through the game. 

 :)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 13, 2006, 11:19 PM
I don't think the NBA McFarlane wave has hit yet, I've only seen Legends so far. 

I saw the wave at a local FYE yesterday, so you may want to start looking for them.

And I'm still interested in hearing your theory on what it is Wade does that would be constituted as cheating, regardless of how illogical and misinformed that theory may be.
 ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 13, 2006, 11:31 PM

And I'm still interested in hearing your theory on what it is Wade does that would be constituted as cheating, regardless of how illogical and misinformed that theory may be.
 ;D

You're a Wade fan.  I generally don't engage in a battle I have no chance of winning.  Let's just say I saw against the Kings that night what I saw all along. 

At any rate, I'll certainly start looking for Artest McFarlane.  I also want the Billups and Melo.  Your find was the first I've heard so far.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JohnH on December 14, 2006, 12:46 AM
I generally don't engage in a battle I have no chance of winning. 

I'm sure there's a Dressel/Yankees joke in there somewhere, but I'm too tired to work it out.

John
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 14, 2006, 08:41 AM
You're a Wade fan.  I generally don't engage in a battle I have no chance of winning.  Let's just say I saw against the Kings that night what I saw all along.

There's no need for you to "win" anything.  I know that he doesn't cheat on a regular basis, but I'd still like to know what you think he's doing on a game-to-game basis that's illegal.  Perhaps there are rules to the game that you don't quite understand that I could educate you on. 

At any rate, I'll certainly start looking for Artest McFarlane.  I also want the Billups and Melo.  Your find was the first I've heard so far.

Melo looks rather nice.  I may pick him up as well.  The rest of the wave doesn't interest me.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 14, 2006, 09:36 AM


I'm sure there's a Dressel/Yankees joke in there somewhere, but I'm too tired to work it out.

John

Nothing as funny as watching the first good player you've had since George Brett come to NY, I'm sure.

(http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/05_MLB_Traded_Players/Images/05BeltranCarlos.jpg)

Of course it's also funny to watch a major league baseball team flounder around spending zero dollars on a significant free agent while at the same time "rebuilding" and not producing one ounce of young talent.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 16, 2006, 11:16 PM
Damn, it's good to have Wade back:

41 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 5 steals, 1 blocked shot.  And more importantly ... one win.

And did anyone catch the "extracurricular" activities at MSG tonight?  Damn.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on December 17, 2006, 03:32 AM
And did anyone catch the "extracurricular" activities at MSG tonight?  Damn.

Isiah is a fricken clown.  That's two nights in a row he sent Collins in to commit a flagrant foul in blow outs.  What the hell is Karl doing having his starters in up 20 with 1:30 or so left?
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 17, 2006, 04:02 AM
And did anyone catch the "extracurricular" activities at MSG tonight?  Damn.

Isiah is a fricken clown.  That's two nights in a row he sent Collins in to commit a flagrant foul in blow outs.  What the hell is Karl doing having his starters in up 20 with 1:30 or so left?

Apparently Karl and Larry Brown are good friends and Karl was exacting vengeance on Isiah Thomas for the firing of Larry Brown. 

I hear rumblings that Anthony is going to get 1-5 games, but I watched the footage 10 times of him throwing that right hook that dropped Collins, and considering the fight was partially in the stands, I really think Anthony is going to get more like 8-15 games, and if it were more I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Karl was trying to embarass the Knicks though, and there's no reason to have Marcus Camby, JR Smith, and Carmelo Anthony in a game that you're up by 20, with a minute plus to go.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 17, 2006, 09:29 AM
I hear rumblings that Anthony is going to get 1-5 games, but I watched the footage 10 times of him throwing that right hook that dropped Collins, and considering the fight was partially in the stands, I really think Anthony is going to get more like 8-15 games, and if it were more I wouldn't be surprised at all.

So ... how long until he becomes one of your favorite players?  You're always raving about Artest and Sheed.  Melo fits right into that "talented thug" category that you seem to love so much.
 ;)

I wouldn't be shocked if Melo gets at least 10 games.  A few years ago, he would've received no more than 3 - 5 games.  After the Pistons/Pacers brawl, things have changed a bit.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on December 17, 2006, 12:16 PM
So ... how long until he becomes one of your favorite players?  You're always raving about Artest and Sheed.  Melo fits right into that "talented thug" category that you seem to love so much.
 ;)

I think the difference between the three is Melo has no street cred.  He's a a fricken snitch.  DR doesn't want to be associatted with any snitches.   :P
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 18, 2006, 05:36 AM
I don't know guys...Terrell Owens fits right into that 'street thug' category on the evolutionary chain now tonite as well with his spitting incident- He's right next to Bill Romanowski on the classic NFL spitters list now. His incident is pale in comparison to the MSG fight, though..phew :o. A guy on radio last night brought up a good point about how NBA fights are rare...but when they happen everyone involved is referred to as a 'thug'. He was comparing NBA fight frequency to MLB fight frequency...how there are so many more bench clearing fights in MLB and how no person afterwards is called a 'thug'.

DS
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 18, 2006, 08:59 AM
A guy on radio last night brought up a good point about how NBA fights are rare...but when they happen everyone involved is referred to as a 'thug'. He was comparing NBA fight frequency to MLB fight frequency...how there are so many more bench clearing fights in MLB and how no person afterwards is called a 'thug'.


That's a good point ... but I don't see everyone that gets into a fight in the NBA as a "thug".  But, when someone sucker-punches a guy in the face and then runs away like a little bitch, that's definitely "thug-like".
 ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 18, 2006, 12:41 PM
Well, Carmelo didn't really need to run away.  Collins was down.  A second shot, if Collins got up, would have been TKO for sure.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 18, 2006, 12:54 PM
This just in...

David Stern suspends Carmelo Anthony 15 games.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 18, 2006, 02:25 PM
I really think Anthony is going to get more like 8-15 games

Good call, Matt.  15 games it is:

Suspensions total 47 games from Knicks-Nuggets fight (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2701228)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 18, 2006, 05:51 PM
Appropriate punishments IMHO 8)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Scott on December 19, 2006, 03:35 PM
Sounds like AI is heading to Denver.  Goddamn it sucks to be a Minnesota sports fan...why do I keep doing it?
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Jeff on December 19, 2006, 03:41 PM
Since we didn't land AI, does that mean that trading KG by the end of the season is all but guaranteed then?
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Ryan on December 19, 2006, 06:31 PM
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It should be interesting to see how well Melo, Iverson, and JR Smith get along. We've got three guys who are all going to want to score 40+ a game, and we just lost our best passing player. It should be fun to watch though. :)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 19, 2006, 08:01 PM
Geez, well, the Nuggets definitely aren't going to have a problem scoring points.  With Anthony/Iverson, I think just a few other teams have a scoring tandem in the same ballpark: (assuming health) Yao/McGrady, Allen/Lewis, and Marion/Nash/Amare.  Nowitzki/Howard could be in that category by year's end with the leaps and bounds Josh Howard has been making this year.  Even with Anthony sitting for 15 games, I think the Nuggets will get a 7th seed or so in the conference and make the playoffs and go a coupla rounds.

For the record, I'm picking Phoenix to win it all this year.  This is the year for the Suns.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on December 19, 2006, 11:24 PM
Denver is going to need the new and old ball to keep everyone happy.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 20, 2006, 09:12 AM
Denver is going to need the new and old ball to keep everyone happy.

Nice.

It will take some adjustments, but they should be alright.  Remember, Denver runs and guns even more than Phoenix does (they're just not as good at it).  With the fast tempo, AI and Melo both should still get all the shots they want. 
I wouldn't want to play that team.  They have two players that legitimately should be double-teamed on almost every play, and they now have two clutch players for the end of close games.  They'll be a tough out in the Playoffs, if they mesh together.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 20, 2006, 10:52 AM
  They'll be a tough out in the Playoffs, if they mesh together.

IF...I'm more wary about this move. I could see Melo getting a little upset that he was no longer the goldenrod after he comes back after 15 games too. It could end up like another Marbury/Francis marriage..we'll see. I would say though if it does work out well then I'd put them higher than a 7 seed.

DS
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 20, 2006, 01:16 PM
It could end up like another Marbury/Francis marriage..we'll see.

It definitely could, but I don't think it will be quite as bad.  First of all, both AI and Melo are better players than either Marbury or Francis.  Second, they don't play the same position, like Marbury and Francis do.  Though Melo is a good jump-shooter, he thrives when he's in the post.  He's bigger and stronger than guards, and he's way too quick for most forwards to cover him.  They could get a great inside-outside game going between the two of them.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 20, 2006, 03:14 PM
I agree with that if they don't fight about who leads the team in point total every night. If that were the case I would expect it from the younger "Melo" and not AI. Well I guess we'll see what it's like/ get a good picture of it by marchish.

DS
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 22, 2006, 11:48 PM
I saw this picture and just laughed out loud.  Paul Pierce got straight up mugged:

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20061221/capt.mack10812210326.warriors_celtics_basketball_mack108.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 23, 2006, 08:09 PM
I think that guy in the second row fouled him too.  Damn.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on December 24, 2006, 01:45 AM
Yao to miss 6 weeks with injured knee  (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061224/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_rockets_yao_injured_4)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 24, 2006, 10:56 AM
Yao to miss 6 weeks with injured knee  (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061224/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_rockets_yao_injured_4)

Much like McGrady, I knew that was coming.  Yao missed about 2 months with an injured toe last season.  He has made big strides and is a potent rebounder and shot blocker and his offense has come a long way, but he is not very durable.  Goodnight Rockets, see you next year.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JohnH on December 24, 2006, 01:50 PM
Yao to miss 6 weeks with injured knee  (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061224/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_rockets_yao_injured_4)

Son of a ******* whore...I give up.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 25, 2006, 10:40 PM
I'd say that the showdown today of the NBA's two best guards was a bit one-sided.  Thanks for the Christmas present, Dwyane.
 ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 25, 2006, 10:46 PM
I'd say that the showdown today of the NBA's two best guards was a bit one-sided.  Thanks for the Christmas present, Dwyane.
 ;D

Kobe was sick though!  And Wade was cheating his little hiney off as usual.

 :D
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 25, 2006, 10:48 PM
Kobe was sick though! 

Yeah, I heard that.  Funny that never stopped Jordan from showing up (and usually dominating) in big games.  If Kobe wants to be better than Mike, he has to show up when it's the hardest to do so.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 25, 2006, 10:55 PM
Kobe will never be better than Mike.

Artest has a shot, at least on the defensive side of the ball.

But Kobe's not better on either side.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 25, 2006, 10:57 PM
Kobe will never be better than Mike.

Artest has a shot, at least on the defensive side of the ball.

But Kobe's not better on either side.

You don't have to tell me that.  He just likes to think that he is, and I was just making the point that had Jordan been as sick as Kobe, he still would've found a way to kill the team he was playing against.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 26, 2006, 06:21 PM
Oh it never ends with this guy...

(http://images.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/_photos/2004-11-24-inside-artest.jpg)

Kings, Clippers talk Maggette-Artest trade
Tuesday, Dec 26, 2006 10:11 am EST

The Sacramento Kings and the Los Angeles Clippers have discussed a potential trade in which swingman Ron Artest would be exchanged for forward Corey Maggette. The Clippers tried to acquire Artest from the Indiana Pacers last season. Artest is supposedly at odds with current teammate Mike Bibby, and the relationship between Maggette - unhappy with his playing time - and head coach Mike Dunleavy is said to be beyond repair.

Artest leads the NBA in steals, at 2.47 per game, and averages 16.4 points and 7.2 rebounds. Maggette is averaging 14.8 points per game, but had averaged more than 20 points per game in the previous two seasons.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 28, 2006, 11:39 PM
I hope not Dress, because that sounds pretty stupid considering we got Bibby,Salmons, and K. Martin already phat at the position. The Kings haven't acknowledged this trade rumor either. Went to the Kings game last night a blowout win over the hapless 76ers..who, scored 76 points! Artest did have a nice, back-facing-the-basket loose ball lay in that sent the crowd wild but, other than that had a quiet showing. Bibby lit it up finally, and got player of the game award.

The Kings age in the middle dictates we need a center; not a perimeter player/guard. I never liked Maggette..he's not as near Marbury but really reminds me of him at times. He would destroy the Kings if ownership made a stupid deal like that. Bibby's pissing everyone off lately..especially since he's really not been playing well at all-I really blame him solely for the recent losing streak we were in...I think a fan summed it up well when he yelled behind us 'Where have you been, Bibby?' after Bibby scored his 21st point.

DS
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on December 29, 2006, 08:37 AM
This was the best basketball-related news I could get this morning:

Status Alert: An MRI on Wade's sprained right wrist revealed no structural damage and he will be a game-time decision for Friday's game against the Nets, ESPNews reports.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on January 3, 2007, 02:40 PM
It looks like Wade most likely won't be playing tonight against the Clippers, and probably won't play against the Suns on Friday.  At least there's talk that Shaq will be back for the Heat's January 15th game against the Lakers.  And Pat Riley is taking a leave of absence from the team to have surgery on his knee and hip.  The Heat are so banged up that they can manage to find a way to have their coach be on the injured reserve.  Damn.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 3, 2007, 05:45 PM
A monster recent game by Artest. Bunches o' points and 5 steals and 1 block too. Too bad he can't stay healthy enough to produce like this every night though :(.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on January 3, 2007, 10:31 PM
The Heat were also without the services of James Posey and Antoine Walker tonight because-are you ready for this-they're too ******* fat!  Here's the blurb from ESPN.com:

Heat coach Pat Riley deactivated two forwards whose body fat readings aren't within team parameters, then began an indefinite leave of absence because of his knee and hip problems.  Miami played again without center Shaquille O'Neal, who has been in only four games because of an injured knee. Finals MVP Dwyane Wade missed his third straight game with a sprained wrist, and forwards Antoine Walker and James Posey both missed the game and won't travel to Phoenix because neither met team-ordered body fat readings by a Jan. 1 deadline.

Now there's something you don't see every day .....

Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 4, 2007, 10:19 PM
Malik Rose of the Knicks pays a brief visit to Neal's favorite vacation spot.

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070103/capt.sca11001030611.knicks_kings_basketball_sca110.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on January 5, 2007, 08:35 AM
I think you have the two of us confused, Matt.  You're the one who's all over Artest's junk.  I'd be afraid to get within 100 yards of that guy.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on January 8, 2007, 08:11 PM
Wow ... this has not been a good season to be an NBA star:

Bucks' Redd out four to six weeks with bad knee (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2724714)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on January 11, 2007, 03:24 PM
Nuggets deal Boykins, Hodge to Milwaukee (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ars4UW6VOhMpIIojrM.ulgm8vLYF?slug=ap-bucks-nuggetstrade&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on January 11, 2007, 03:38 PM
I'm not sure what the Nuggets get out of that deal (other than possible salary reduction), but OK .....

*EDIT* - OK ... salary reduction is exactly why Denver pulled the trigger on this trade.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on January 11, 2007, 10:16 PM
i don't see how boykins was ever going to get any minutes anyhow.  if he excels in milwaukee, he could come out ahead in contract negotiations next year.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on January 11, 2007, 10:37 PM
I think Denver was just stuck with too many bodies with the emergence of Boykins and the return of JR Smith from the suspension.  In the interim they added AI, so they've got Anthony, Iverson and Smith all wanting to shoot the ball. 

Milwaukee on the other hand needed another shooter with the injuries to Redd and Villanueva.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Brian on January 17, 2007, 03:31 PM
An 8 player trade (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070117/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_pacers_warriors_trade) has apparently gone down between Indiana and Golden State.  Here's the details:

Indiana Receives:

Troy Murphy
Mike Dunleavy
Ike Diogu
Keith McLeod

Golden State Receives:

Stephen Jackson
Al Harrington
Josh Powell
Sarunas Jasikevicius
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on January 17, 2007, 05:39 PM
it looks like the warriors got the better end of that one, but ultimately it looks like spares for spares.  that trade just looks like someone is trying to clear cap space.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 17, 2007, 11:20 PM
This is the kind of stuff that makes me nuts.

Is there anything more pointless than an NBA player committing a technical foul?  Refs do not reverse their calls.  It can only get you in trouble, so shut the hell up.  If I were a coach, I'd sit the player's ass on the bench for a month if they did this, and then we'd see if they'd dare do it again:

Utah 100
Detroit 99

Rasheed Wallace, who had 11 points, was called for a technical while Williams was shooting free throws. That allowed Okur to shoot a free throw to give the Jazz a seven-point lead with five minutes left, and the point proved to be the difference in the closely contested game.

---------------------------------------

Just like the 15 yard penalties the Chargers endured against Tom Brady on Sunday, for swinging and headbutting Patriots with reckless abandon.  Look at you now, morons.


Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 19, 2007, 04:43 PM
Ron Artest and Jermaine O'Neal to reunite?


Pacers' O'Neal may be dealt
Friday, Jan 19, 2007 12:14 pm EST

Informed sources near the Indiana Pacers situation suggest that Jermaine O'Neal may be a lot closer to being dealt than even he will admit. A few weeks ago, O'Neal announced that if he could not get the Pacers turned around, maybe it was time for him to go.

That seems very likely to happen this summer, although a handful of GM's and scouts say it could happen before next month's trade deadline. One source hinted that the Denver Nuggets' Marcus Camby or even the Sacramento Kings' Brad Miller could be parts of a package involving O'Neal.

Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 22, 2007, 01:34 PM
I got a chuckle out of this one.  It looks like Zach Randolph is being real careful not to squish Boykins:

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070122/capt.pda10301220332.bucks_trail_blazers_basketball_pda103.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on January 22, 2007, 02:30 PM
It also looks like something else is happening in that picture .....
 :o
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 22, 2007, 10:51 PM
It also looks like something else is happening in that picture .....
 :o

Humph.  That didn't really cross my mind.  I'm not sure what that says about you (or the apparent contaminants in Rochester's water for that matter) but I'm sure I'd have been leaning that way also had that been Christian Laettner or Eddie Griffin, and not Zach Randolph.


If Carmelo is a "me" guy who wants the rock, does this make Iverson Mini Me?

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/bf/full.getty-71796981dp001_grizz_nuggets_10_07_37_pm.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on January 23, 2007, 10:04 AM
Nice pic.  I was talking to a few friends back when the trade happened about how similar AI and Melo look.  Cornrows ... headbands ... tattoos all over the place ... that weird arm-sock thing .....
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 23, 2007, 10:12 AM
Yup it's like Melo's mirror image into a smaller mirror:

(http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2007/0122/nba_g_iverson_melo_412.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: ruiner on January 23, 2007, 11:08 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on January 25, 2007, 08:02 PM
The starters for the All-Star Game were announced today.  They are:

Eastern Conference
G Dwyane Wade
G Gilbert Arenas
C Shaquille O'Neal
F LeBron James
F Chris Bosh

Western Conference
G Tracy McGrady
G Kobe Bryant
C Yao Ming (will be replaced in the starting lineup due to injury)
F Kevin Garnett
F Tim Duncan
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on January 25, 2007, 10:47 PM
i wonder what it would take to get dallas fans motivated to get at least dirk on the all star starter squad?

overall it looks like a pretty good representation of the best of the best in the league, but as good as the mavs are doing, i would have liked dirk to get voted in.  i think he and amare are probably the 2 best forwards in the west right now, but duncan and KG will pretty much have to die before they stop getting voted in.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 31, 2007, 03:56 PM
Secretly, Neal knows it's Ron Artest in a Heat uniform (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=cnnsi-ronrontotheresc&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns) that's going to rescue Dwyane Wade.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on January 31, 2007, 10:17 PM
Boozer likely out for several weeks with fracture (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ApGelXrcHmUiHHP4U2OAV9Y5nYcB?slug=ap-jazz-boozer&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 1, 2007, 11:01 PM
Did anyone else watch that 4th quarter that Wade just dropped on the Cavs?  He actually outscored the Cavs himself in the quarter, 24 - 23.  He set three team records along the way as well:  most turnovers in a game (12 - Ouch!), most points scored in a quarter (24), and most foul shots made in a game (23/24).  And the Heat needed every single one of D's 41 points tonight to pick up the win.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on February 2, 2007, 05:56 PM
i stopped watching kinda early on since it looked like cle had it under control and it was a low scoring game.  you know the cavs are running a zillion defensive drills today after sending wade to the line so often that more than half his points were from the charity stripe.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 3, 2007, 11:27 PM
  you know the cavs are running a zillion defensive drills today after sending wade to the line so often that more than half his points were from the charity stripe.

They should be.  Though I loved watching Wade dominate the game, I couldn't believe that the Cavs didn't run a second defender at him as soon as he crossed half court with the ball.  I think they did it one time.  The announcers mentioned it.  Barkley said something about it after the game.  I noticed it.  When a superstar player gets going like that, you have to make someone else on the team beat you.  Wade's probably second to only Nash in knowing how to run his team, so he'd definitely have made the right passes out of any double-teams, but still ... I'd take my chances and let Posey, Kopono, and Haslem try to beat me.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on February 4, 2007, 04:00 AM
Did anyone see Gerald Wallace's block on Al Harrington?  Wow.   :o
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 4, 2007, 10:19 PM
Did anyone see Gerald Wallace's block on Al Harrington?  Wow.   :o

I did see that.  Pretty awesome.  Blocked shots like that are just as good (or better) than when someone dunks over someone else.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 7, 2007, 04:42 PM
Join the fight!!  Make your voice HEARD and help Ron Artest overcome the treachery of Animal Services and Get His Dog Back! (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-artest-dog&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 7, 2007, 04:43 PM
Did anyone see Gerald Wallace's block on Al Harrington?  Wow.   :o

Gerald Wallace is a defensive force.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: King_Maul on February 7, 2007, 06:27 PM
I didn't see it, but I looked it up.  I think this is what you guys are referring to.  Very impressive.

GW block on AH (http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/joomla/content/view/122/9/)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 7, 2007, 11:57 PM
Yup ... that would be it.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 8, 2007, 11:24 AM
For those of you who are having trouble with the link, the Gerald Wallace block on Al Harrington looked a lot like this play:

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070207/capt.wimg10602070233.magic_bucks_basketball_wimg106.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 9, 2007, 06:06 AM
Hey Bibby, it's not gonna fit, no matter how hard you push.

(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070209/i/r2608623630.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: King_Maul on February 9, 2007, 05:20 PM
Hahaha, stop it Bibby, you're tickling me! 
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on February 9, 2007, 10:27 PM
I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 14, 2007, 08:28 AM
Matt ... seeing that you seem to like the little fella so much, this pic is for you:

(http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/WIMG10602140403.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: ruiner on February 14, 2007, 09:16 AM
Hey Bibby, it's not gonna fit, no matter how hard you push.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 14, 2007, 09:59 AM
Holy **** Neal, someone get that big German away from Boykins before it's too late!
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on February 14, 2007, 06:39 PM
that pic is hilarious... it looks like boykins is trying to box out dirk
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 14, 2007, 07:57 PM
that pic is hilarious... it looks like boykins is trying to box out dirk

According to the caption that accompanied it on ESPN.com, that's exactly what he's trying to do.  Even so, it's still pretty funny.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 15, 2007, 08:37 AM
Now these are the words of a true idiot (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-hardawayremarks&prov=ap&type=lgns).  Even if you're mentally ill enough to have those feelings, to actually open your mouth and say it to a group of reporters is about the most retarded thing you could do.

Boy, what a numbskull.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 15, 2007, 08:47 AM
Now these are the words of a true idiot (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-hardawayremarks&prov=ap&type=lgns).  Even if you're mentally ill enough to have those feelings, to actually open your mouth and say it to a group of reporters is about the most retarded thing you could do.

Boy, what a numbskull.

The amazing thing about it is that he later apologized for it!  There's really no way to misinterpret what he said.  Why bother apologizing after saying something like that?  It's not like anyone will believe it is sincere.  Wow.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 15, 2007, 08:54 AM
Yeah he says that "he shouldn't have said it," but there's no doubt that's the way he really feels.

I can't imagine what he was thinking when he made those comments.  Boy oh boy.  That's got "Mike and Mike's ESPN Just Shut Up Award" written all over it for sure.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: King_Maul on February 15, 2007, 04:41 PM
Wow, I just read the report, and shut up is what he should've done.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: ruiner on February 15, 2007, 05:46 PM
Feels like the whole Michael Richards thing, doesn't it?

Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 15, 2007, 07:50 PM
Feels like the whole Michael Richards thing, doesn't it?



What Michael Richards said was inexcusable and stupid.  But at least he was provoked as the two that he unleashed the verbal tirade on had admittedly been heckling him.

Tim Hardaway just really truly believes what he said and said it in a calm and relaxed manner.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on February 16, 2007, 06:02 PM
they have been talking about this alot on the radio.  i can't believe how many people are willing to call in and stick up for Hardaway.  and, their biggest argument is  "pedophilia is a genetic predisposition too, should we just let that slide too?"  i just can't believe how many retards we have in our country.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: King_Maul on February 16, 2007, 09:02 PM
I just watched the NBA All-Star Celebrity game for the first time, and man, it was BORING!  I wasn't sure what to expect, but I didn't think the players and commentors were funny when they were trying to be, and the most interest I had in it was when Reggie Bush sprained his ankle.  I can't argue the cause though because they play that game for charity.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 16, 2007, 10:34 PM
i just can't believe how many retards we have in our country.

It's not just this country.


If Hardaway really has hatred in his heart, that's one thing.  I don't think he should feel that way, but he really does.  Okay, fine.  But to actually open up your mouth and say that, that's what really makes him an idiot.  He really should have known better.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 21, 2007, 11:45 PM
Wade's season is over.  I'd almost bet on it.
 >:(
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 22, 2007, 03:10 AM
Wade's season is over.  I'd almost bet on it.
 >:(

Dislocated shoulder.  Out a few weeks to a month.  Back for the playoffs.

I waited up until 3 AM to get this information for you.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 22, 2007, 09:32 AM
I waited up until 3 AM to get this information for you.

Thanks, Matt.  I appreciate the dedication.
 ;)

They were saying on Mike and Mike this morning that he may be out up to seven weeks.  And I like that you said that he would be back for the playoffs, but without him playing during the stretch run, there may not be any playoffs in the Heat's future. 
I think they can hang on to the 8th seed.  Shaq looked really good last night.  He's going to have to step up.  The Heat are a veteran team (albeit old), and they should show the heart to win some games, even without the best player in the league on the court.  And the Eastern Conference sucks, so there's always a chance.  But it's going to be tough.  Really tough. 
This ******* sucks.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on February 22, 2007, 05:36 PM
this is disappointing.  its never quite as satisfying to play a team without your arch nemisis involved.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 22, 2007, 09:03 PM
 :(

Season-ending surgery an option for Wade (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2775853)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on February 23, 2007, 12:59 AM
:(

Season-ending surgery an option for Wade (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2775853)

I blame the use of the new ball for part of the season.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 23, 2007, 09:27 AM
Someone else is going to have to step up and travel on their spin move if the Heat are going to sneak into the playoffs this year.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 23, 2007, 11:01 AM
I'm sure Shaq can pull it off.  He's been traveling for years.

Ass.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 23, 2007, 05:46 PM
(http://images.google.com/url?q=http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Forman_/espn_logo_1501.jpg&usg=__PT0e9g5Flf_bPjZrW3o5nMq1poY=)

Welcome to Sportscenter.  Tonight's top story, tragedy on the hardwood...

Kevin Martin: Impaled.

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070223/capt.vzn10802230311.kings_wizards_basketball__vzn108.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on February 23, 2007, 08:57 PM
Nope, Dennis Johnson, 52, with championships from the Celtics and Sonics dies today at practice with the team he was coaching :'(  I liked DJ when he was with the Sonics and certainly enjoyed him when he was a Celtic.  Big bummer.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Mikey D on February 23, 2007, 09:20 PM
DJ passed away yesterday.  Not really a fan of b-ball, but he certainly meant a lot to a lot of people around here, for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on February 23, 2007, 10:26 PM
Yesterday?  Wow, I didn't see a thing on yahoo until today. 
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 23, 2007, 10:52 PM
And DJ still isn't in the Hall of Fame, which is a travesty.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Matt on February 25, 2007, 08:18 PM
I don't follow pro basketball the way you guys do, so please forgive the weird/stupid question:

Which two (or three) of these teams would you rather see in person?  Just based on how good they are, and how big the marquee players are, or whatever:

Atlanta Hawks
Utah Jazz
New Jersey Nets
Boston Celtics
Los Angeles Lakers
Houston Rockets
Dallas Mavericks
New York Knicks
Seattle SuperSonics
Phoenix Suns
Los Angeles Clippers
Denver Nuggets

I'm thinking the Lakers, Rockets, Mavericks, Suns, and Nuggets might be the best ones to see, but any other thoughts or opinions would be appreciated.  I'm trying to catch at least a game or two before the Hornets leave town.

Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on February 25, 2007, 09:05 PM
Suns would be #1 on my list because they're just fun to watch. 

I'm a long time Celtics fan but they're at the bottom right now, sadly :(  Knicks kinda suck too.

The Mavs could be cool, but defensive basketball isn't always that much fun to watch.  It's kind of 50/50 whether it would be a good game with them.

Rockets if Yao is back, not so much if he's not there.

Jazz should be pretty damn cool too, a high scoring affair there I'd imagine.

For me I'd take, in order: Suns, Jazz, Mavericks.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on February 26, 2007, 08:55 AM
I'd narrow it down from these teams:

Los Angeles Lakers - Kobe's one of the best.  You never know when he may decide to drop 60 on a team.

Dallas Mavericks - They're the best team in the League, and they're on a roll.  They're playing some really special ball this year.  Catch them, if you can.

Phoenix Suns - There's no other team in the League besides the Heat (if Wade's playing) that I'd rather watch.

Denver Nuggets - They aren't playing that well, but a lot of exciting things can happen when AI and Melo are on the court.

Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Matt on February 26, 2007, 11:17 AM
Los Angeles Lakers - Kobe's one of the best.  You never know when he may decide to drop 60 on a team.
 

Yeah, I mentioned the Lakers originally, apparently forgetting that:

A.  I saw 'em in an exhibition game here a few years ago,

and

B.  I hate Kobe.

So the Lakers are out (and looking more-closely at the schedule, it looks like that game's actually in New Orleans, anyway, unless we're gonna have a Hornets/Lakers game/Who concert doubleheader that night--which really would be something). 

But I do appreciate the suggestions.  Looks like you guys are agreed upon the Suns and the Mavericks, and I was already kind of leaning toward them, too.

The Rockets game is March 25--is Yao supposed to be back by then?

I might consider seeing the Jazz--but only if Mark Eaton's still playing for them.  He is, right?

The Nuggets might be a good one--besides A.I. and Anthony (sorry, I refuse to say "Melo"), it's also the last Hornets home game of the regular season, and if they don't make the playoffs, that'll be their last game in OKC ever.  So that could be a special evening.

Anyway, thanks again for the suggestions.  Any more would be welcome.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Morgbug on February 26, 2007, 12:42 PM
Sadly Mark Eaton has returned to being the world's tallest mechanic.  I did have the good fortune of seeing him play against the Timberwolves back in their inaugural season in the HHH Metrodome.  We were only about 12 rows behind the Jazz bench and boy he was huge even amongst basketball players.  And yes, I know you were being facetious.  The Jazz just have a really good team and you can't go wrong with a guy named Boozer.

Yao is supposed to be back by the 25th, but with injuries...

Give my regards to Chris Paul and David West :-*
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on February 26, 2007, 03:39 PM
Suns top my list.  Just watching them run and push the ball is fun.

Second on my list is the Jazz.  They're back to running the offense like it was with Malone and Stockton.  I think it's a thing of beauty, to me they have the best half court offense. 
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on February 26, 2007, 05:28 PM
i would have to agree that the suns play the funnest basketball in the league right now.

the mavs are still pretty fun to watch too, but if you are rooting for the other team you might skip them.

if you are looking for a particularly spectacular player, you might check out gilbert arenas and the wizards when they come thru town.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Matt on February 27, 2007, 11:59 AM
Thanks guys for all the advice.

Think I'm gonna shoot for the Mavericks and Suns.  Nuggets are out due to a scheduling conflict.

NBA action:  It's fan-tastic.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 5, 2007, 06:19 PM
Ron Artest wrongfully arrested for domestic violence (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-kings-artestarrested&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Matt on March 27, 2007, 11:12 AM
Thanks guys for all the advice.

Think I'm gonna shoot for the Mavericks and Suns.  Nuggets are out due to a scheduling conflict.

NBA action:  It's fan-tastic.

Seeing the Mavericks tonight!

(Are they any good?)   ???
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on March 27, 2007, 03:18 PM
Seeing the Mavericks tonight!

(Are they any good?)   ???

They're currently the best team in the league and the favorites to win the championship.  You should enjoy seeing them play.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on March 27, 2007, 05:29 PM
and... they are looking to extend the leagues longest current winning streak to 7.   

the rest of the season is sold out in dallas.  i actually considered driving up to watch tonights game.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 27, 2007, 06:50 PM
the favorites to win the championship

Phoenix.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on March 27, 2007, 09:43 PM
the favorites to win the championship

Phoenix.

You may see it that way, but most do not.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on March 27, 2007, 10:51 PM
Spurs box score this morning.  Check out why Robert Horry didn't play.  It's now changed back to "Coach's Decision."
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/JayDouble/Internet/2461-oldageel3.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Matt on March 28, 2007, 12:26 AM
They're currently the best team in the league

. . .and looked every bit the part this evening.

Mavericks 105
Hornets 89

And the Mavs actually eased up some--they were up by nearly thirty in the fourth when we decided to leave with four or five minutes left.

Very finely-tuned machine, they are.

Give my regards to Chris Paul and David West :-*

Your boy CP3 mustered up a whole two points tonight.  Pretty disappointing--I was hoping to see him have a nice game.

Oh well--good to finally see a game in person.  Thanks all for the advice.

(Also surprised that there's been no mention of the Rasheed Wallace shot in this thread. . .)   :o
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 2, 2007, 12:11 AM
the favorites to win the championship

Phoenix.

You may see it that way, but most do not.

Even the Mavericks (and Suns) see it my way now (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2007040121).
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on April 2, 2007, 12:36 PM
I didn't say that I saw it that way.  I think that Phoenix can beat Dallas in a seven-game series.  I was just pointing out that most of the "experts" are picking the Mavs.

Then again, most of them were picking the Mavs last year as well, and we all know how that turned out.
 ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on April 2, 2007, 07:40 PM
that puts the mavs and suns at 2 games each for the season series.  and, i would bet pretty much anything that the suns cannot duplicate that kind of hot shooting over a seven game series.  i am not saying that the mavs can win a series necessarily, only that the suns were seriously on fire yesterday.

even being a very big mavs fan, i would say the suns, spurs and mavs all have a pretty equal chance at the championship this year.  i know the devil is always in search of souls, but that is the only way another team would stand a chance.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on April 2, 2007, 10:15 PM
 i know the devil is always in search of souls, but that is the only way another team would stand a chance.

I pretty much agree ... but you just never know what this could amount to:

Wade returns to Heat practice (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2822793)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on April 8, 2007, 10:34 PM
I don't even care that the Heat lost to a ****** Bobcats team at home, or that Wade showed a TON of rust and missed a foul shot that could've won the game for them.  I'm just glad that I will now have a reason to be interested in the NBA Playoffs.  Welcome back, Dwyane.

(http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/5717e61a-a668-455b-8829-ddb1d5057f87.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 8, 2007, 11:25 PM
I'm just glad that I will now have a reason to be interested in the NBA Playoffs.  Welcome back, Dwyane.


Me too, I haven't seen anyone travel on a spin move in weeks.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on April 9, 2007, 09:23 AM
Me too, I haven't seen anyone travel on a spin move in weeks.

Really?  You must not actually watch NBA games then.  Players travel all over the place.
And, come on ... you're not fooling anyone.  You know you love it.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 16, 2007, 10:11 PM
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070407/capt.12e4387e98634265866b58b4a03aab5c.jazz_kings_basketball_sca107.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on April 17, 2007, 12:39 PM
What does everyone think of Tim Duncan's ejection on Sunday?  I thought that it was ludicrous.  Joey Crawford should be done reffing for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Rob on April 17, 2007, 02:32 PM
I'm just glad that I will now have a reason to be interested in the NBA Playoffs.  Welcome back, Dwyane.

So your interest in the NBA, and consequently your interest in the Heat, revolves around your man-crush on a single player?

Fair-weather fan?
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on April 17, 2007, 03:19 PM
So your interest in the NBA, and consequently your interest in the Heat, revolves around your man-crush on a single player?

Fair-weather fan?

Not quite.  Trust me ... I watch more NBA basketball than probably anyone who regularly posts in this thread.  I'm one of the few people that still enjoys the pro game, and I'd pick it over college basketball any day of the week.
I guess saying that I would have no interest in the Playoffs without Wade being a part of it was a bit strong.  I'll be watching every game televised ... not just the Heat games.  That being said, having Wade being part of the Playoffs piques my interest a bit more.  I'm a Wade fan first and foremost.  Seeing that he plays for the Heat, that's the team I cheer for.  If he signed with another team, I would root for them.  I was the same way when Jordan was playing.  I liked him since he played at Carolina, and when he went to the Bulls in '84, I went with him.  When he came back for two seasons, I was more interested in what the Wizards were doing.  I don't have an NBA team in my city, and I can't stand the Knicks.  So ... I follow players that I like.  If that makes me a fair-weather fan, than so be it.

Back to the Joey Crawford issue ... at least the NBA did something about it:

Crawford suspended for rest of season, playoffs at least (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2840587)
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: john todd on April 17, 2007, 05:37 PM
i have hated that rule since day one where a ref can give anybody a tech for anything.  finally a ref really abused it and i am glad to see the league reacting properly.  i was very glad to see the league not back crawford and leave an opening for this situation to be repeated... especially with the playoffs coming up so soon.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Rob on April 17, 2007, 09:29 PM
So your interest in the NBA, and consequently your interest in the Heat, revolves around your man-crush on a single player?

Fair-weather fan?

Not quite.  Trust me ... I watch more NBA basketball than probably anyone who regularly posts in this thread.  I'm one of the few people that still enjoys the pro game, and I'd pick it over college basketball any day of the week.
I guess saying that I would have no interest in the Playoffs without Wade being a part of it was a bit strong.  I'll be watching every game televised ... not just the Heat games.  That being said, having Wade being part of the Playoffs piques my interest a bit more.  I'm a Wade fan first and foremost.  Seeing that he plays for the Heat, that's the team I cheer for.  If he signed with another team, I would root for them.  I was the same way when Jordan was playing.  I liked him since he played at Carolina, and when he went to the Bulls in '84, I went with him.  When he came back for two seasons, I was more interested in what the Wizards were doing.  I don't have an NBA team in my city, and I can't stand the Knicks.  So ... I follow players that I like.  If that makes me a fair-weather fan, than so be it.

Back to the Joey Crawford issue ... at least the NBA did something about it:

Crawford suspended for rest of season, playoffs at least (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2840587)

Fair enough!
 
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Brian on April 19, 2007, 03:29 PM
Well, the playoffs are all set for this weekend:

East
(1) Detroit vs (8) Orlando
(2) Cleveland vs (7) Washington
(3) Toronto vs (6) New Jersey
(4) Miami vs (5) Chicago

West
(1) Dallas vs (8) Golden State
(2) Phoenix vs (7) L.A. Lakers
(3) San Antonio vs (6) Denver
(4) Utah vs (5) Houston
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 19, 2007, 09:01 PM


I'll take a crack at this

East

Detroit over Orlando
Cleveland over Washington, obviously (no Butler, no Arenas)
Toronto loses to  New Jersey
Miami over Chicago, Dwyane Wade doesn't get called for traveling even once.

West

Dallas over Golden State
Phoenix over L.A. Lakers
San Antonio loses to Denver
Utah loses to Houston
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 21, 2007, 08:00 PM
Just a couple notes so far about Round 1:

1.  I was hoping Chicago would beat the Heat, but I didn't think it would happen.  Wouldn't it be funny if this Bulls group was the one to finally expose D-Waste for the fraud and the phony that he really is.  This scherade of Wade's has gone on long enough, he's basically been perpetratin' this lie since he was drafted.  The Heat would be better off if they just benched him the rest of this series to try to get through the Bulls.  Pffft, they oughtta just bench him for the remainder of the playoffs and release him to get some talent at PG for next season like TJ Ford or Steve Francis.

2.  Dwight Howard really should consider bulking up those shoulders of his if he's going to make it in the NBA.


Okay that's it for now, back to the Pistons game.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: JayDouble on April 23, 2007, 01:01 AM
Great weekend of games for the most part.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: King_Maul on April 23, 2007, 01:23 AM
Wished the Lakers/Suns game today was only 3 quarters long.   :(
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on April 23, 2007, 01:09 PM
I'm going to go ahead and get on the record now that Dallas doesn't win more than one or two games in this series.  I meant to say it before the game the other night, I just don't see them suddenly taking a 7 game series against the one team that has absolutely given them fits this year.

67 wins - one and done in the playoffs.   I sure hope I'm wrong.  :-\
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 23, 2007, 01:11 PM
I'm going to go ahead and get on the record now that Dallas doesn't win more than one or two games in this series.  I meant to say it before the game the other night, I just don't see them suddenly taking a 7 game series against the one team that has absolutely given them fits this year.

67 wins - one and done in the playoffs.   I sure hope I'm wrong.  :-\

Phoenix is gonna dust 'em in the Semis anyhow.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on April 23, 2007, 01:39 PM
Phoenix is gonna dust 'em in the Semis anyhow.

Phoenix wouldn't play Dallas until the Conference Finals.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on April 23, 2007, 05:24 PM
dallas looked very ordinary last night.  i am not sure what their deal is with GS, but if they don't shoot better, rob is gonna be right.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on April 23, 2007, 09:43 PM
I'm going to go ahead and get on the record now that Dallas doesn't win more than one or two games in this series.  I meant to say it before the game the other night, I just don't see them suddenly taking a 7 game series against the one team that has absolutely given them fits this year.

67 wins - one and done in the playoffs.   I sure hope I'm wrong.  :-\

Phoenix is gonna dust 'em in the Semis anyhow.

There isn't a team in the league that could beat the Mavs in 7 outside of Golden State.  Not this year.

Spurs maybe.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 24, 2007, 10:20 AM


There isn't a team in the league that could beat the Mavs in 7 outside of Golden State.  Not this year.

Spurs maybe.

Phoenix can.  With Steve Nash of course.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on April 24, 2007, 04:55 PM
Okay sure, Phoenix 'can' - but Phoenix won't, if it gets that far.

I really think the Mavs are screwed. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 24, 2007, 05:01 PM
Okay, well, I think the Suns are going to kick the Mavs' ass if they meet.  So I guess we have our gentleman's bet all set.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on April 24, 2007, 05:02 PM
Let's make it a Death Star Trooper.  Where's the fun in a Gentleman's bet.


Voided of course if the match-up never materializes.

?
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 25, 2007, 10:39 AM
Let's make it a Death Star Trooper.  Where's the fun in a Gentleman's bet.


Voided of course if the match-up never materializes.

?

Darktrooper or bust.

Phoenix really doled out a rump wrangling last night on Kobe and Co., and they're going to do the same thing to Dallas if Golden State doesn't do it first.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2007, 03:48 PM
You're on.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on April 25, 2007, 05:41 PM
Phoenix really doled out a rump wrangling last night on Kobe and Co., and they're going to do the same thing to Dallas if Golden State doesn't do it first.

don't forget that the lakers suck.  i don't think anyone (except LA fans) expected them to win.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: JediMAC on April 25, 2007, 06:29 PM
don't forget that the lakers suck.  i don't think anyone (except LA fans) expected them to win.

I don't even think that most L.A. fans expected them to win (myself included), or at least not the halfway intelligent ones anyway.  I predicted a Suns sweep prior to the start of the series.  This Lakers team has less heart, desire, and effort than any I remember in quite some time (despite all the major injuries).  I like to think that the season ended way back when we were 26-13.  Those were happier times...  :P

Phoenix is an offensive machine, and a blast to watch.  As for Dallas, considering they've now lost 7 of their last 8 games to the Warriors, including all 4 this year, they're going to have to make some serious adjustments to their game plan if they want to beat their former coach.  It'll be pretty amusing if Golden State pulls it out, considering the Mav's handed them the #8 seed by not playing most of their starters against them in the second to last game of the regular season, effectively knocking the Clippers out of the #8 seed.  Most were speculating they did that to avoid the Clippers in the first round (and not just to rest their stars), and play the Warriors instead.  Bad move, methinks...  I'd love to see that decision come back to seriously bite them in the ass...
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Morgbug on April 25, 2007, 07:42 PM
So having one guy score 50 points 10 times in a season doesn't make a champion?  Gee, whoulda thunk that. ::)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on April 25, 2007, 08:48 PM
Yeah, it was funny last Sunday when the commentators (I can't remember who) said that Kobe would go down in basketball history, replacing MJ, as the best player ever to play the game.

Have you really watched Kobe play?  I mean really watch him?  His mannerisms are just like Jordan's.  The way he walks, chews his gum, shoots the fade away (trademark Jordan) - everything.

It's uncanny and frankly I can't stand to watch him because of it.

I don't care how many points he can rack up in a season - Jordan made the players around him shine - it was a TEAM - I don't get that vibe with Kobe, Phil and the rest of the squad.

And their performance further drives home the point.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Brian on April 26, 2007, 12:54 PM
Thanks for posting that ruiner.  That's been my view of Kobe for years now, and it often bothers me when people say he's "better than Jordan".  How quickly people forget.  I'll admit I'm not a Kobe fan at all, but I can say that he's easily the best scorer in the game today - and probably since Jordan.  He can do it all from the scoring standpoint, but I haven't seen much of his all around game.  Plus, the copying he has done with Jordan's mannerisms has always bothered me.  Its nice to know that I'm not the only one who notices that.  He's always seemed like he's tried to "talk" like Jordan, using phrases like "the game of basketball" that MJ often used.  It might be coincidence, but it doesn't seem like it to me.  Not that Jordan is a bad player to mold yourself after, but Kobe is talented enough that he can just be his own player.

Anyways, like I said, he's a great player and will probably retire being one of the all time greatest scorers (and maybe players) in NBA history, I just don't quite put him on the MJ level quite yet.  It might have taken a few years, but Jordan really was good at incorporating his teammates and making them better.  Not just guys like Pippen and Horace Grant/Rodman, but I remember BJ Armstrong making an All-Star game, and guys like John Paxson, Steve Kerr, and Bill Cartwright were almost household names.

Back on topic, I don't dislike the Mavericks, but I have to say its hard for me not to root for the Warriors a bit too.  I guess upsets are always exciting, unless its your team that's the higher seed ;).  I really hope the Suns can do well this year, and hopefully make it to the Finals.  I don't mind seeing the Spurs struggle a bit too, that could be an interesting series.  Bulls/Heat is interesting as well.  As much as I used to be a Bulls fan, I really can't stand Ben Wallace and to a lesser extent Andres Nocioni.  I don't know why Nocioni irritates me, he just does.  Kind of a like a more talented and a less whiny Bill Laimbeer.  Kind of a rough player that gets under your skin.  With Ben Wallace, sure he's talented, but the commentators often make it sound as if he's one of the greatest players of all time.  I think he's gone from being one of the most under-rated players in the league to one of the most over-rated.  Sure, he can defend and rebound, but so could Dennis Rodman.  It does look like the Bulls could pull it out though, D-Wade really seems to be struggling and if he continues, this team can't do it without him.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on April 26, 2007, 05:31 PM
Back on topic, I don't dislike the Mavericks, but I have to say its hard for me not to root for the Warriors a bit too.  I guess upsets are always exciting, unless its your team that's the higher seed ;). 

i can see rooting for the underdog, but reggie miller was killing me last night.  the whole way thru he was commentating like it was a home broadcast for the warriors.  everything was "the warriors just need to keep up the energy and they will be fine" or "if they can get it under 10 they will still have the edge".   i was just sitting there thinking... this is a national broadcast.. how about some "the mavs have done a great job of adjusting".

if it was anyone else i would be rooting for the warriors too.  but since it is the mavs, i was very happy with the game last night.  not only did they spank the warriors but they got under their skin too.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Brian on April 27, 2007, 11:49 AM
I didn't get to see much of that game, but I can believe that about Reggie Miller's commentating.  I always hate a bias in broadcasting sports, and it seems like it happens a lot.  Maybe it just seems that way when my team is losing ;).
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on April 27, 2007, 10:57 PM
RIP, Heat.  You had a good run.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 27, 2007, 11:01 PM
RIP, Heat.  You had a good run.

Yeah they need a miracle now.  I wouldn't drive the last nail into the coffin just yet though...
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 27, 2007, 11:52 PM
Yeah they need a miracle now.  I wouldn't drive the last nail into the coffin just yet though...

Me neither.  Recent history has shown that being down three games to none isn't quite as insurmountable a task as the sports media would have everybody believe.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 28, 2007, 12:33 AM
. . . . if you're a Detroit Basketball fan or Boston baseball fan ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 12:35 AM
. . . . if you're a Detroit Basketball fan or Boston baseball fan ;)

(Thank you, Mr. Subtlety.)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2007, 01:42 AM
Steeeeeeeee RIKE two.

Mavericks are in big big trouble.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on April 28, 2007, 07:36 AM
Recent history has shown that being down three games to none isn't quite as insurmountable a task as the sports media would have everybody believe.

Yeah, but no team in NBA history has come back to win a series after being down 3 - 0.  There's always a first time for everything, but let's just say I don't like their odds.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 09:01 AM
Yeah, but no team in NBA history has come back to win a series after being down 3 - 0.  There's always a first time for everything, but let's just say I don't like their odds.

(Psst.  Neal.  I know.  Just trying to give "Dressel" a little **** about about the '04 ALCS, that's all.  It didn't work out very well.)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2007, 09:35 AM

(Psst.  Neal.  I know.  Just trying to give "Dressel" a little **** about about the '04 ALCS, that's all.  It didn't work out very well.)

Nah, I saw it.  I was going to give "Virex" a little **** too about our 26 World Championships, the most of any team in any sport, but then I realized that he's still cowering in the closet with his allegiance to his favorite teams that he's too embarassed to wear on his sleeve; thus rendering his comments about mine null and void.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 10:09 AM
Nah, I saw it.  I was going to give "Virex" a little **** too about our 26 World Championships, the most of any team in any sport, but then I realized that he's still cowering in the closet with his allegiance to his favorite teams that he's too embarassed to wear on his sleeve; thus rendering his comments about mine null and void.

My old screen name, that I haven't used in years, in quotes.  (http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)  That's good stuff.

"Cowering in the closet?"  "Too 'embarassed' to wear on my sleeve?"  Please.  I've said it before; I guess I'll have to say it again:  I have no favorite teams in professional sports, sir.  I'm not sure why that's so difficult for you to understand, but I do understand that it complicates things for you, 'cause if I don't have "a team," then it makes it harder for you to "come back" at me when I point out that, despite their 26 rings, the Yankees are still the only team in Major League Baseball history to choke away a three-to-nothing lead in a post-season series.  So, instead of being able to retort with an oh-so-clever "oh yeah? well, your team sucks," you resort to the even more-so-clever implications that I'm somehow scared to admit what my favorite teams are.  Not true, sir.  If I had a favorite team, I'd tell ya.  But I don't.

Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2007, 10:37 AM
Bull.  There's got to be a team that you like at least slightly more than all the others.  Give us a break.

Yeah the Yanks lost some playoff series, big whoop.  They got to the playoffs like 50% of the time they've been in existence. 

Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 11:05 AM
Bull.  There's got to be a team that you like at least slightly more than all the others.  Give us a break.

We've gone over this before, "Dressel," and I understand that the idea of someone being a casual sports fan may be a foreign concept to you, but, growing up where I did, and living where I do, there aren't really a whole lot of professional teams to latch onto.  Most people around here follow either the Sooners or the Cowboys (of the Oklahoma State variety).

So no, I have no allegiances to any one particular team in professional sports.

But, to throw you a bone, I'll say that my favorite teams are the Milwaukee Brewers, the Portland Trail-Blazers, the Arizona Cardinals, and the Montreal Canadiens.  Now, whenever I point something out--like how the Yankees haven't won a World Series since 2000--you can one-up me by telling me how much the Brewers have sucked ever since the Molitor and Yount days.  That'll show me.

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Yeah the Yanks lost some playoff series, big whoop.  They got to the playoffs like 50% of the time they've been in existence.

You know, "Dressel," I was just making (what was) a good-natured joke, that's all.  I realize that the Yankees are the most-successful organization in the history of professional team sports.  Not that you'd let anyone around here forget that, though, anyway.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2007, 11:20 AM


But, to throw you a bone, I'll say that my favorite teams are the Milwaukee Brewers, the Portland Trail-Blazers, the Arizona Cardinals, and the Montreal Canadiens. 

God, that was like pulling teeth!

You can stop putting quotes around "Dressel," it's not like I've made any effort to cover up that my name is Matt.  Or "Matt".  Or however you feel the need to write it.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 11:28 AM
God, that was like pulling teeth!

(http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)

Please, tell me, that you don't really think th. . .  oh, nevermind.

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You can stop putting quotes around "Dressel," it's not like I've made any effort to cover up that my name is Matt.  Or "Matt".  Or however you feel the need to write it.

Nope.  Continue to use the ridiculous, made-up screen name, and I'll continue to use the quotes whenever I'm speaking or referring to you.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2007, 12:36 PM

Nope.  Continue to use the ridiculous, made-up screen name


Almost everyone else does.  Most of us haven't evolved enough like you have when you found the unbridled courage to shed the "Virex" and "Bill Cosby" tags.  Me, I like Dressel Rebel.  As you know the name written over your avatar is just as serious of an issue as any of us have ever been faced with in life.



and I'll continue to use the quotes whenever I'm speaking or referring to you.


Okay, I'll just find a few hours during the day to powernap and make up some of the sleep I'm bound to lose at night over this super important issue, "Matt".   ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 01:47 PM
Almost everyone else does.

Actually, no.  A lot of the folks around here have moved away from all the silly, made-up screen name bull****.  It's a change for the better, if you ask me.  Gives the place a certain sense of--I don't know--dignity.

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Most of us haven't evolved enough like you have when you found the unbridled courage to shed the "Virex" and "Bill Cosby" tags.  Me, I like Dressel Rebel.  As you know the name written over your avatar is just as serious of an issue as any of us have ever been faced with in life.

(snip)

Okay, I'll just find a few hours during the day to powernap and make up some of the sleep I'm bound to lose at night over this super important issue, "Matt".   ;)

You know, you're the one making a big deal out of this, "Dressel."  If it's such a non-issue for you, then why do you care if I put quotes around your goofy screen name in the first place?
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: blimpyboy on April 28, 2007, 02:04 PM
Almost everyone else does.

Actually, no.  A lot of the folks around here have moved away from all the silly, made-up screen name bull****.  It's a change for the better, if you ask me.  Gives the place a certain since of--I don't know--dignity.

What a stupid name "Matt" is, anyway. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 02:08 PM
What a stupid name "Matt" is, anyway.

Agreed.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2007, 02:40 PM
Almost everyone else does.

Actually, no.  A lot of the folks around here have moved away from all the silly, made-up screen name ********.  It's a change for the better, if you ask me.  Gives the place a certain sense of--I don't know--dignity.


Okay, I'm not going to waste too much time researching this, but out of the top 30 posters, 19 of them have a screenname that is either not their "real" name (like only the very coolest people such as yourself have) or is a Star Wars screenname.  11 out of 30 is definitely not proving your argument, which makes you wrong as usual.  And as you move away from the most active forum members, the percentage swings even further into my favor by a lot.

And even if you were right, I do what I feel like doing anyway even when cornholes like yourself object.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2007, 04:14 PM
Detroit's going to get a lot of rest because they're going to clinch today and the other series' are at 2-0, 2-1, and 1-1.

Maybe they'll give the Suns more of a run for their money in the finals then  ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 04:17 PM
So much for that mid-day powernap, huh, "Dressel?"  (http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)

Okay, I'm not going to waste too much time researching this, but out of the top 30 posters, 19 of them have a screenname that is either not their "real" name (like only the very coolest people such as yourself have) or is a Star Wars screenname.  11 out of 30 is definitely not proving your argument, which makes you wrong as usual.  And as you move away from the most active forum members, the percentage swings even further into my favor by a lot.

Going so far as to go to the member list to prove me wrong.  Wow.  Congratulations, you win.  You're awesome.  I suck.  Is there anything in this world that you don't turn into some stupid competition?  Good Lord.

But, if that's how you want to play, I'm game.  The way I see it, out of the top thirty posters, seventeen are using their first name, their initials, or some other variation on their real name.  That's more than half!  The other thirteen are using made-up, bull**** screen names.

You're right, though--the further you delve into the JD archives, the more people you'll find have the retarded, made-up names like the one you have.  All of the "Darth Poopypants" and "Jedi Poindexters" and all of those guys.  You got me there.  Those people deserve to be taken just as seriously as someone using their real name, don't they?  (Your thoughts on that matter, "Robo-Quack?")

Still, though, quite a lot of people around here have gotten past the whole screen name thing, and more and more people are doing it every day.  I think it's a good trend, and I'm glad to be a part of it.  Makes things more personal, more friendly.  Those fake screen names are so passe, so 2003.  You never know--maybe one day, you'll even grow out of it. 

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And even if you were right, I do what I feel like doing anyway even when cornholes like yourself object.

And now the name-calling begins, all over this--as you sarcastically referred to it--"serious" and "super important issue."  My goodness.  I think you're a little more upset about it than you'd like to let on. 

Anyway, by all means, keep doing what you feel like doing.  If you're comfortable with people picturing Prune Face when reading your posts, then more power to ya. 

But by the same token, I'll keep doing what I feel like doing, and that means putting your screen name in quotes when I'm addressing you.  And--dig this--the more you throw one of your patented, "Dressel Rebel"-brand fits about it, the more I'm gonna keep doing it.  :)  Maybe you could complain to "Chris Berry" or "Jeff Smentek" about it, if it bothers you that much.  I'm sure they'd love to hear it.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2007, 04:23 PM

Those people deserve to be taken just as seriously as someone using their real name, don't they?  (Your thoughts on that matter, "Robo-Quack?")


Well I'm not sure that was entirely necessary!  :)

And besides, your campaign to change my screenname is futile, you already have the one I'd have taken.  Your aggressiveness and trend-setting style has actually nullified my attempt to fit in.  Oh well Prune Face it is...
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 04:40 PM
Well I'm not sure that was entirely necessary!  :)

Completely necessary, and completely on point.  Is "Dressel Rebel" any less-ridiculous than "Robo-Quack?"  I don't think so.

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And besides, your campaign to change my screenname is futile, you already have the one I'd have taken.  Your aggressiveness and trend-setting style has actually nullified my attempt to fit in.  Oh well Prune Face it is...

Don't flatter yourself.  I'm not trying to get you to change your screen name.  I actually think it fits with the content of most of your posts--and deserves to be taken just as seriously (which is to say, not at all).  I don't give a **** what you do.  All I'm saying is--keep using the gaywad name, and I'll keep putting it in quotes.  That's all.

Sincerely,

JediBoi-1138
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2007, 04:45 PM
All I'm saying is--keep using the gaywad name, and I'll keep putting it in quotes.  That's all.

Which brings us full circle.  What's your point exactly then of "Dressel" if you don't want me to change it?  Other than your usual trolling of course.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 04:56 PM
Which brings us full circle.  What's your point exactly then of "Dressel" if you don't want me to change it?  Other than your usual trolling of course.

It's not about me wanting you to change your name.  On the contrary.  It's about me refusing to play the screen name game with you.  I'm not gonna refer to your screen name without using quotes when there's other people participating who are using their real names.  It's less-respectful to them.

Plus, now I know that it bothers you--so, all the more reason to keep doing it.  If that's trolling, so be it.  I don't give a ****.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2007, 05:02 PM
Okay Virex Bill Cosby "Matt".
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2007, 05:04 PM
Okay Virex Bill Cosby "Matt".

Good one.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: JediMAC on April 28, 2007, 05:24 PM
20 straight non-NBA posts.  How 'bout we drop the forum name discussion and try to get back on topic here, eh?

As for the Heat, as much as I'd love to see them get swept, I'm definitely not counting them out yet.  Though it'd be completely insane to come back at this point, I wouldn't put it past them.  I've seen crazier **** happen before...
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on April 29, 2007, 10:48 AM
Nah, the Heat will lose to the Bulls.

I usually don't follow the NBA but what's the big deal with this Wade fella?  Doesn't seem so special to me.

I think the Heat should pay me to shoot free throws:

Free Throws Cost Heat Game (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/sfl-sphydespec28apr28,1,279790.column?coll=chi-sportstop-hed)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on April 29, 2007, 12:13 PM
I usually don't follow the NBA but what's the big deal with this Wade fella?  Doesn't seem so special to me.


He's currently playing on one good leg and with one good arm.  Go back and watch last year's playoffs and when he was healthy earlier this season if you want to see what's so speacial about him.  Before he tore his labrum and dislocated his shoulder, he was scoring 29 points, dishing out 8 assists, pulling down 5 rebounds , getting over two steals, and blocking more than one shot a game.  No one else in the league could match those numbers.  Also, he pretty much single-handedly won the Championship for them last year.  Other than Kobe (maybe), he's the best player in the game.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 29, 2007, 12:33 PM


 Other than Kobe (maybe), he's the best player in the game.


I've got a funny feeling most people would take LeBron or Garnett over Wade.  And you can make an outstanding argument for Nash, Arenas, Marion and Nowitzki as well.

Realistically I rank Wade somewhere between 3rd and 7th best in the Association.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on April 29, 2007, 03:52 PM
Teams may take LeBron over Wade, seeing that he's 21.  No one in their right mind would take Garnett at this point in his career.  When he was younger, perhaps.
LeBron has minimal desire to win and chokes when shooting big free throws.  Wade's ruthless and a better defender.
Nash is actually a liability on defense, much less a mediocre defender.  He may be one of the greatest point guards ever, but the Suns' system works just as much for him as he does for it.  Check the numbers that opposing PGs put up against him (usually).  He couldn't guard me.
Garnett has the complete game, but he's getting older.  No title.  No playoff success.
Arenas is too spotty.  He's close, but he's small and can be backed down by larger guards.  Plus, he hasn't won anything yet, either.
Dirk is not nearly the passer Wade is, and he's a so-so defender.  Plus, he tends to disappear in big games (at least in the Playoffs).
I like Marion, and he's one of the few that can match Wade's defensive numbers, but he's not even the best player on his team.  He's the most versatile, and seeing that you only see the NBA by looking at stats, I can see why you'd mention him.
Anyone else you'd like me to shoot down?

And ... as evidenced by the way he left the court today, Wade's a class act as well.  That's what you really don't like about him, Matt.  He's a good guy, and you can't stand it.  Does a guy need a criminal record for you to cheer for him?

Congrats go out to the Bulls and their fans.  You beat an old and inferior team, and though I hated to see it happen, I'll be rooting for you against Detroit.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on April 29, 2007, 03:54 PM


 Other than Kobe (maybe), he's the best player in the game.


I've got a funny feeling most people would take LeBron or Garnett over Wade.  And you can make an outstanding argument for Nash, Arenas, Marion and Nowitzki as well.

Realistically I rank Wade somewhere between 3rd and 7th best in the Association.

i think Neal is right that Kobe and Wade are probably the 2 most talented players in the league.  if i was picking teams in the gym though, i would chose dirk, garnett or amare 1st though cuz the good big players are little rarer.


good news for the heat... Wade is gonna get a little extra rehab time.   now the Heat fans get to find out if any of their old timers will come back.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on April 29, 2007, 04:01 PM
i think Neal is right that Kobe and Wade are probably the 2 most talented players in the league.  if i was picking teams in the gym though, i would chose dirk, garnett or amare 1st though cuz the good big players are little rarer.


good news for the heat... Wade is gonna get a little extra rehab time.   now the Heat fans get to find out if any of their old timers will come back.

I agree with you there.  Always take talented size when you can.  Wade can't help that he's "only" 6'4".  I'm pretty high on Amare.  He's almost fully back to where he was two years ago.  That man is a freak.

As far as Wade's rehab, he better have surgery this week ... and I hope he remembers the pain of getting swept out in the first round.  I want him to come back next year better and stronger than ever.  I like when he feels that he has something to prove.  As far as the team goes, I expect a complete fire sale.  Wade and Shaq aren't going anywhere, but I'm assuming that Payton and Mourning are done.  And they have a bunch of free agents as well.  It's going to be a totally different team next year.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 29, 2007, 05:37 PM

  Does a guy need a criminal record for you to cheer for him?


Yes, prison is where they learn to play the best and toughest basketball.

Hey I conceded that Wade is in the top 7.  But while you were quite adept in pointing out everyone else's flaws, perhaps I missed the part where you disclosed that Dwyane Wade has zero range and turns the ball over a ton.  I mean, geez, what does he shoot beyond the arc, 20%?  For a point guard?  And does he lead the league in turnovers?  I'm not gonna check but I'll assume he does until proven otherwise.

Steve Nash is more valuable than Wade.  I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but in short, when Nash sits out, the Suns cannot win a game period.  He is the very engine that drives an offense and the Suns have Barbosa who is not bad that plays in Nash's absence.  Okay Nash has range and can nail a 3 from anywhere at a hiigh percentage, and don't even try to compare passing skills to Wade please.  Nash stops at 12 assists per game because he gets bored when his team goes into double digit leads and sits down.  Nash is the NBA MVP 2 years running and there should be a 3rd coming up if Nowitzki doesn't get it.  Yeah Nash isn't a hot defender, but why is that any more of an issue than the fact that Wade can't hit a shot unless the basket is 5 feet in front of him?

Wade's good but if I need to build a team to win this season, I'm taking Nash over D-Waste.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on April 29, 2007, 06:27 PM
I never said that Nash wasn't valuable.  I said that Wade is better.  Which he is.  And Wade isn't a point guard.
As far as range, he's never been a 3-point shooter, but then again, neither was Jordan at this stage of his career, and he was still the best player in the game.
As far as TOs, yes ... Wade led the league in turnovers per game (not total TOs), but Iverson was right behind him in second, and Nash was fourth.  Turnovers happen when you have the ball in your hands all of the time.  Law of averages.
I wouldn't put Nash in my top five of the best players in the game, and that's because he only plays on one side of the floor.  I love Nash, and he's valuable, but that doesn't make him better.  If the best player in the league won the MVP ever year, Jordan would've retired with about twelve of them (at least).
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on April 30, 2007, 09:27 AM

LeBron has minimal desire to win and chokes when shooting big free throws. 

Meanwhile, Wade missed 6 of 10, including 3 of 5 in the fourth quarter when the Heat desperately needed some help.*

*From earlier article posting.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Brian on April 30, 2007, 09:58 AM
Pretty good weekend of hoops.  I have to say I was surprised that Miami ended up getting swept by Chicago.  Chicago really outplayed them, but I guess I always expected Miami to make a series of it, and at least win a game or two.  Oh well, new champ this year for sure - and maybe two new finals teams for sure too if things continue the way they are - and that's always exciting.  Dallas is really on the ropes at this point, being down 3-1, but you never know what could happen.  It is kind of neat seeing Golden State play so well right now.  I hope that Phoenix can continue on, and hopefully win the championship, but we'll see.  I'd like to see Nash get a title, and they are just a fun team to watch.  Detroit vs. Chicago should be an interesting 2nd round matchup.  I remember watching those two tangle many a time in the late 80s/early 90s.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on April 30, 2007, 11:51 AM
It's weird for me to watch the playoffs as I haven't followed the sport since Hardaway and Mullen played for GS, Jordan and squad for the Bulls and Barkley for Phoenix.

I don't know any of these guys except for the leftovers from the early nineties.

Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on April 30, 2007, 03:23 PM

LeBron has minimal desire to win and chokes when shooting big free throws. 

Meanwhile, Wade missed 6 of 10, including 3 of 5 in the fourth quarter when the Heat desperately needed some help.*

*From earlier article posting.

That's one game.  He shot 82% from the line this season, and that percentage goes up significantly in clutch time.  Wade was the only Heat player who actually made his foul shots in the game yesterday.
LeBron misses many more foul shots than he should, and especially this year, he's been missing them when they counted the most.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on April 30, 2007, 03:25 PM
I know, but it was a big game.

Similarly, how long has Shaq been in the league? 

How is it that this guy cannot, after all this time, still not have a respectable FT %?

Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on April 30, 2007, 03:29 PM
I know, but it was a big game.

Similarly, how long has Shaq been in the league? 

How is it that this guy cannot, after all this time, still not have a respectable FT %?



Oh, I agree.  Wade definitely hasn't been himself since he came back from his injury.  He'll be having surgery on his shoulder shortly, and there's talk that he may need surgery on his left knee as well. 

As far as Shaq's foul-shooting ... I don't know.  Some guys just can't get the mechanics down.  His hands are so damn big, and it just seems that he can't hold the ball right and get a good touch on it.  Wilt Chamberlain was the same way.  He actually has a worse career free throw percentage than Shaq, if you can believe that.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Ryan on May 1, 2007, 12:58 AM
David Stern hates the Denver Nuggets. That is all.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on May 1, 2007, 06:58 PM
Is tonight the night the Mavericks brilliant season dies?

I think they win this one, but lose game 6.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 1, 2007, 08:36 PM
Is tonight the night the Mavericks brilliant season dies?

I think they win this one, but lose game 6.

Alls I know is the opportunity to rob you of a Darktrooper is slipping away with a quickness.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on May 2, 2007, 01:45 AM
A glimmer of hope.  I don't think they can win in Oakland, but if they can force game 7, watch out.


Did anyone else watch this game tonight?  Golden State put up 3 after 3 after 3 - lots of them were wide open looks, but lots of them were horrible shots to take with guys all over them, and they (at least until the end) just kept making them.

Those guys are good.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 2, 2007, 10:14 AM
I watched parts of the game.  This has been a really fun series to watch.  Dallas is up by over 20 in the first half, Golden State cuts it to 7 by halftime.  Golden State's up by 9 with 3 minutes left, looking like they're about to to end the series, Dirk FINALLY shows up, the Mavs roll off 15 straight points (12 by Dirk), and win the game.  Dallas showed their heart at the end of this one.  Now ... they have to try and find a way to win in Oakland.  Game 6 should be awesome.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 3, 2007, 11:14 AM
Lakers finally dead, and..good riddance. I know I'm asking for alot but I hope Kobe is never a part of a championship team ever again. I hope his price always has him on a team with a bunch of non-factor players around him, hurting his chances at another title. ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 3, 2007, 03:55 PM
Lakers finally dead, and..good riddance. I know I'm asking for alot but I hope Kobe is never a part of a championship team ever again. I hope his price always has him on a team with a bunch of non-factor players around him, hurting his chances at another title. ;D

I guess he'll just have to settle for that handul of championships he already won.  And then if that's the case, Slothus will have just emerged victorious.

 ::)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 3, 2007, 04:07 PM
Yep ;D

signed
a Lakah Hatah
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 3, 2007, 06:23 PM
I guess he'll just have to settle for that handul of championships he already won. 

yeah, but i am sure to kobe those are tainted by having to share credit with shaq.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 3, 2007, 08:22 PM
I guess he'll just have to settle for that handul of championships he already won. 

yeah, but i am sure to kobe those are tainted by having to share credit with shaq.

..and who's crying for him? "Not I" said the unseen birdy
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on May 4, 2007, 12:50 AM
I can't remember the last time an MVP front runner disappeared this completely in a big time playoff elimination game.

Dirk has been moping around, getting his azz handed to him for 35 minutes now.  Worst display from him I can remember.

He lost any shot he had at being MVP tonight.  Nash has it.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: JayDouble on May 4, 2007, 02:28 AM
I can't remember the last time an MVP front runner disappeared this completely in a big time playoff elimination game.

Dirk has been moping around, getting his azz handed to him for 35 minutes now.  Worst display from him I can remember.

He lost any shot he had at being MVP tonight.  Nash has it.

MVP is for the regular season and votes are in already. 

Don't understand why Dirk didn't go to the block. 

I think that was one of the best crowds I've seen in a NBA game.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: JayDouble on May 4, 2007, 02:30 AM
Yep ;D

signed
a Lakah Hatah

(http://www.marca.com/marca_usa/nba/fotos0102/los_angeles_lakers/robert_horry020527_2.jpg)
 ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 4, 2007, 08:27 AM
I can't remember the last time an MVP front runner disappeared this completely in a big time playoff elimination game.

Dirk has been moping around, getting his azz handed to him for 35 minutes now.  Worst display from him I can remember.

He lost any shot he had at being MVP tonight.  Nash has it.

MVP is for the regular season and votes are in already. 


Yup ... and early rumblings have been saying that Dirk won the award.  Can anyone else remember a time when the MVP trophy was presented to a player that wasn't still playing in the playoffs?  I wonder if Dirk will show up to the press conference.

The game last night was great.  Baron lifted his team simply by being on the court (his 11 consecutive points in the 2nd quarter on one leg didn't hurt any), Stephen Jackson was insane (he usually is, but this was in a good way), and the Oakland crowd was simply ridiculous.  My ass is dragging because I stayed up to watch the entire game, which ended around 1:15 AM EST, but I don't care.  If I can find any solace in the fact that the Heat got swept out of the playoffs and won't be defending their title, it's in the fact that Dallas won't be the team winning it.
 :)

Great series.  Now, let's see if Golden State can keep up this momentum in the next round against Houston Utah.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 4, 2007, 09:51 AM


Yup ... and early rumblings have been saying that Dirk won the award. 

Nash deserved it, he was totally robbed if this is true.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 4, 2007, 09:52 AM
the favorites to win the championship

Phoenix.

You may see it that way, but most do not.

No shocker here, for me anyhow.

Phoenix is taking it this year, damn the experts.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on May 4, 2007, 10:01 AM
If Dirk won the MVP the only reasonable thing for him to do is to decline.
Title: Re: NBA 2006-07 Season
Post by: Neal on May 4, 2007, 01:33 PM
Phoenix is taking it this year, damn the experts.

They still have to worry about making it past San Antonio.  That shouldn't be that easy.
I wouldn't mind seeing Phoenix win one.  I enjoy watching the team and Nash is a class act.  It would be nice for him to get a championship.

Looks like you can't win that Dark Trooper now, Matt.
 ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 4, 2007, 01:36 PM
If Dirk won the MVP the only reasonable thing for him to do is to decline.

I agree.  I like this little blurb from the Sports Guy over on ESPN.com:

We're headed for the most awkward moment in NBA history within the next 10 days. Here's how it will play out:



(We see Jim Gray, David Stern and Dirk Nowitzki standing awkwardly in front of a single camera at halftime of a Round 2 playoff game.)



--Gray: "I'm here with NBA commissioner David Stern. David--"



--Stern: "Don't talk to me. Seriously. You're lucky I haven't had you killed yet."



--Gray: "Gotcha. Um ... and now to present the 2006-07 Most Valuable Player Award, NBA commissioner David Stern."



--Stern: "Leave."



--Gray: "What?"



--Stern: "Leave. Now."



(Gray slinks off.)



--Stern: "Well, Dirk, maybe the playoffs didn't turn out the way you planned, but for 82 meaningless games during one of the worst seasons of my 23-year tenure, you were the best player in a terrible league. Unfortunately, voting for the award happens right after the regular season, so voters weren't able to factor in your complete meltdown in Round 1 against Golden State. You didn't just fail to step up like an MVP should, you whined and complained the entire series, disgraced your teammates and embarrassed your fans. Not since David Hasselhoff has America been so embarrassed by a German. I don't know whether to hand you this trophy or smash it over your head. Lucky for you, this is being televised, so I can only hand you the trophy and congratulate you on the 2006-07 Most Valuable Player Award. I'm going to leave now so I can throw up."

--Dirk Nowitzki (taking the trophy): "Thank you, Mr. Commissioner."



(Stern waves disgustedly at him and walks away.)


If you're interested, you can read the entire article here (which was written before Game 5 of the series):

Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/blog/index?name=simmons&entryDate=20070501)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 4, 2007, 07:00 PM
i don't know if i would decline the award, but i sure as hell wouldn't show up at someone elses game to accept it.

i don't know what happened to the mavs.  they never in any of the 6 games played like they did during the regular season.  it was very weird.  if ever their was a case for calling sports rigged, i would say we just witnessed it.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on May 4, 2007, 08:38 PM
I was rooting for the Mavs as much as anyone, but there were times I thought the refs were trying to push it to Dallas.

I think Golden State simply overcame a big challenge.  They match up well, and they have a coach who knows the opponent more than anyone else.  Like when Gruden dismantled the Raiders in the Superbowl.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 4, 2007, 11:23 PM
Everyone blames Dirk but, honestly, was he the only guy on the floor? I mean were the Dallas Mavs a Lakers-like team in disguise with a bunch of no namers and Bryant? If that is really true what I'm hearing here then I feel Dallas deserved to be knocked out quick. Is it really?

Did Dirk miss many games this year? When he did, did the team really suck without him? I heard all year about how Dallas was so deep, blah blah this N that- that I find it hard to believe they lost because one of their best players was ...(well, whatever his problem was-off?)

 I just don't hear enough about how good GS could really be-like Dallas could only lose to them and no one else ::) If they(GS) lose instantly to the next team they play then, to me..Dallas truly sucked.

Personally, I'm not a Dallas fan. I hate their arrogant jerk owner- who just got his ass handed to him by his former employees' team. I really don't dislike the Mavs players, I just think it was really BS how their former coach lost his job..even more so when he got replaced by Johnson whom I never cared for. I thought it was pretty low for Johnson to call out his player like that..it reminded me of Phil Jackson with Kobe or Shac- I don't care for it. So, it looks like we have a marriage problem now in Dallas so I expect big changes.

Nash deserves the MVP again, another stupid Dallas move by their arrogant ownership to let him go too ::). 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Rob on May 5, 2007, 01:56 AM
Dirk is a good player, but he didn't just have a bad game or two, he FLAT OUT DISAPPEARED for at least 3 of the Mavs losses - and last night was the worst.  He didn't just have a mediocre game, he was invisible.  His quotes to the media were nothing like what you'd want from a leader, and he looked like he wasn't even trying last night.

Not what MVP's do in the playoffs.  End of story.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 6, 2007, 09:37 PM
Everyone blames Dirk but, honestly, was he the only guy on the floor? I mean were the Dallas Mavs a Lakers-like team in disguise with a bunch of no namers and Bryant? If that is really true what I'm hearing here then I feel Dallas deserved to be knocked out quick. Is it really?

no... there are several players to blame for dallas' losses.  they should have been able to beat GS without dirk.

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Did Dirk miss many games this year? When he did, did the team really suck without him?

dirk missed a couple of games, and i think dallas won all of them

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I just don't hear enough about how good GS could really be-like Dallas could only lose to them and no one else ::) If they(GS) lose instantly to the next team they play then, to me..Dallas truly sucked.

i think alot of people are underestimating the value of don nelson's inside knowledge.  its like playing poker with a guy who knows what all the cards are. the mavs are still essentially playing with his playbook, and his players and his protege coach.

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Nash deserves the MVP again, another stupid Dallas move by their arrogant ownership to let him go too

i really like nash, and wanted them to keep him, but at the time, the decision to let him go seemed like a good one.  every year he would get really banged up and lose a step by the playoffs.  paying him $100 million seemed like a train wreck waiting to happen.  it seemed pretty likely that he would hamstring the mavs with another huge contract for a player who was just a shadow of his former self.  it sucks for dallas, but it was probably the best thing that ever could have happened for nash.   he was really good, but i don't think he would have ever gotten MVP in dallas.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 7, 2007, 09:05 AM
  it sucks for dallas, but it was probably the best thing that ever could have happened for nash.   he was really good, but i don't think he would have ever gotten MVP in dallas.


Exactly.  Nash found a perfect situtation in Phoenix.  He makes that offense run, but the system and the quality of players he has around makes him better as well.  It's a perfect fit.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on May 7, 2007, 10:47 AM
Was the romping of the Bulls (by the Pistons) expected?

Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 7, 2007, 11:07 AM
Was the romping of the Bulls (by the Pistons) expected?



I wouldn't say it was expected.  I thought that the Pistons would win game 1, but I didn't think that they would destroy the Bulls like they did.  I'm just hoping (for their sake) that the Bulls didn't shoot their entire wad in the Heat series.  They were playing the defending champs and hadn't made it past the first round in 9 years.  Some teams will have a bit of a letdown after a huge moral victory like that.  I have a feeling that Golden State may experience the same type of letdown against Utah.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Sprry75 on May 10, 2007, 06:49 AM
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I have a feeling that Golden State may experience the same type of letdown against Utah.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on May 10, 2007, 01:26 PM
I thought GS had that game last night - Reggie was right - always go for the tie when you're at home.

I was hoping too see Chicago and GS advance to the next round just out of nostalgia...
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 10, 2007, 07:52 PM
I was hoping too see Chicago and GS advance to the next round just out of nostalgia...

i guess that nostalgia is before my time.  i can see still rooting for chicago from the jordan days, but outside of a small window in the mid 90's i didn't know GS had a nostalgic period.
rooting for chigaco and utah to meet would be more nostalgic for me.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on May 11, 2007, 02:45 PM
I was a fan of Hardaway and Mullen.
I did not mean for GS and Chicago to play each other.


Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 11, 2007, 05:13 PM
i guess the season was not a total loss now that dirk has been named MVP. 

maybe next year he can go for a playoffs MVP.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 11, 2007, 05:28 PM
i guess the season was not a total loss now that dirk has been named MVP. 

No it was a catastrophe.  The so-called #1 seed in the NBA being bounced by a .500 team.

Almost as bad as the Yanks last year in Round 1.

Also, Nash 3-peated in my book.  Dirk didn't deserve it.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 11, 2007, 05:41 PM
the award is for the regular season and dirk was the best player on the best team.  they lined out his stats in the the dallas paper and he was pretty awesome.

still, i wouldn't show up to accept the award if it was me.

with any luck steve will be picking up the playoffs MVP this year.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 12, 2007, 11:42 AM
Did anyone else happen to catch that dunk that Baron Davis thumped on Kirilenko's head last night?  Damn!
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Sprry75 on May 12, 2007, 12:06 PM
Did anyone else happen to catch that dunk that Baron Davis thumped on Kirilenko's head last night?  Damn!

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: JayDouble on May 12, 2007, 01:11 PM
Did anyone else happen to catch that dunk that Baron Davis thumped on Kirilenko's head last night?  Damn!

Didn't think he had it in him. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 14, 2007, 09:02 AM
Well, the Warriors are done.  As are the Bulls and Nets.  The only series that interests me at all is Phoenix and San Antonio ... and if Phoenix loses Game 4 to go down 3 - 1, they're done too.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Sprry75 on May 14, 2007, 03:52 PM
Golden State acted like a bunch of cry-babies last night.  What poor sportsmanship.  Boozer's the real deal.  And I have a man-crush on Mehmet, but it's just because of his sexy bed-head.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 14, 2007, 07:25 PM
Golden State acted like a bunch of cry-babies last night.  What poor sportsmanship.  Boozer's the real deal.  And I have a man-crush on Mehmet, but it's just because of his sexy bed-head.

There can be only one man crush per forum and I beat you to it.

(http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/ron_artest_prepping_debut_album-arton34066-290x272.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Sprry75 on May 14, 2007, 09:16 PM
Oh, man, you've got to be kidding me.  You'd waste a man-crush on that?

Dude, it's all about Okur.

(http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2006/12/03/resim/or131713.jpg)

See?  Dreamy.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 14, 2007, 10:24 PM
Allow me to contribute .....

(http://men.style.com/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/1106/dwade/00001f.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Morgbug on May 14, 2007, 11:08 PM
Nuh-uh, Boozer is the only one worth it.  Think about talent and the NAME.  What's not to love? 8)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 15, 2007, 09:59 AM
Thank god for the Spurs/Suns series.  It's the only interesting series left in the Playoffs (for now).
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 15, 2007, 10:16 AM
I think David Stern ought to sit Robert Horry on the bench for the rest of the playoffs.  That hip check was purely intentional and stunk of intent to injure Steve Nash.  Stern better sit Horry down for that one.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 15, 2007, 10:54 AM
C'mon, that's like asking Laimbeer to sit in his day...will it ever happen? no!
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 15, 2007, 10:56 AM
C'mon, that's like asking Laimbeer to sit in his day...will it ever happen? no!

I'm not sure I see the parallel.  But we'll see.  I think he's gonna get some time on the pine.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: JayDouble on May 15, 2007, 12:16 PM
Horry will be suspended, the real question is will Amare and Diaw after coming off the bench?
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Morgbug on May 15, 2007, 12:27 PM
Horry will be suspended, the real question is will Amare and Diaw after coming off the bench?

Amare, no.  Diaw, possibly.  This is the NBA afterall. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 15, 2007, 05:16 PM
Hmmph, if they followed their rules to a tee the NBA would suspend both players/regardless of their intentions when leaving the bench. Rules are rules- well, it should be that way but I think the NBA will soften it a bit or 'look the other way' on the suns issue. I think the second they realized that if they suspend the Suns players then they realize they just killed the series for the Suns, their fans will be pissed, and ratings will **** the bed too.

I mean really...a defensive Spurs VS Utah series...YAWN/BORING 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 15, 2007, 05:51 PM
I mean really...a defensive Spurs VS Utah series...YAWN/BORING 

when the spurs/suns series is over, regardless of the outcome, there will be no reason to bother watching anymore.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 15, 2007, 05:53 PM
agreed
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Sprry75 on May 15, 2007, 08:09 PM
Are you guys serious?  I mean, I am admittedly biased, with a built in local "wow" factor motivating me, but the Jazz are playing some really good basketball right now.  Between Boozer, Fisher, and Williams, plus a decent supporting cast, I'm having a blast watching them.

Don't get me wrong; I've got no grand delusions about how this Jazz team stacks up about historical teams, or even some of the better teams in the league this season, but being as objective as I can be, I've gotta still say, they've been really fun to watch in the playoffs.

Why no love for Utah?
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Broem on May 15, 2007, 08:59 PM
Wow!  What a bunch of B.S.  Amare and Diaw suspended for "being on the floor."  LOL!  Now there is a video of Duncan on the floor during an earlier incident.  Naturally he does not get suspended for a game.  Hmmm...maybe it's because he is a superstar?  Oh well it's the NBA's own idiocy. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 16, 2007, 01:11 AM
yeah, at least they followed the league rules for the suns..with the BS coming on Duncan not being suspended ::).


No, I get bored watching Utah play, sorry-if someone actually disagrees with your opinion of them

Like was mentioned this series..Suns VS SA is the best and yet, somehow the NBA management has managed to screw that up too. The playoffs actually end after that series for me, too.

Quite certain the NBA will 'modify' their bench leaving rule in the off season. Something to the effect that if a player leaves their sideline but doesn't make an agressive move-IE help a teamate up off floor ect, then they cannot be suspended.

Why do I feel if Duncan gets to play the next game and the Suns lose, then lose the series, that I'm gonna be sick?

Lame
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Sprry75 on May 16, 2007, 04:30 AM
Of course I start publicly commending the Jazz for playing exciting ball, only to have them play the sloppiest game since before the All Star break (or at least their regular season, 28 point loss to PHX, which I hope isn't a harbinger of things to come).  But thanks to Golden State's meltdown and another game winning performance from Kirilenko, they're still in it.  Whew.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 16, 2007, 08:49 AM
Count me as someone who enjoys watching the Jazz play.  Four of their starters are legitimate stars, and they're gelling as a team at the perfect time.  They definitely won't be an easy out for either Phoenix or San Antonio.  And their home crowd is awesome.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 16, 2007, 08:56 AM
The Suns got nutted.

Neither Amare or Boris were involved in the altercation, they didn't touch anyone.  Neither did Duncan with that hard dunk that left 2 players on the floor.

Duncan came off the bench when he thought an altercation might ensue after the dunk play, but he didn't get suspended.

Personally, I think the only player that should have been suspended was Horry for intentionally trying to hurt Nash.

If Diaw and Amare were suspended for getting up off the bench, then Duncan should have been also.

But let the record show, of my Suns championship prediction, that they were nutted by Stern.  He should have let them go.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Brian on May 16, 2007, 09:11 AM
I'm really frustrated with these suspensions as well.  Sure, I understand that "the rule is clear" - which is what we'll hear Stu Jackson/NBA state over the next week, but it really is stupid.  Amare and Diaw barely even made it to the edge of the floor, didn't touch anyone, and were really just trying to support their teammate/friend after a hard flagrant foul.  Horry deserves the two game suspension as far as I'm concerned, but we all know it isn't going to effect San Antonio as much as Phoenix - if at all.  I really hope Phoenix is able to somehow win anyways, but I have my doubts.  We'll see.

The issue with Duncan is an interesting one too.  Don't get me wrong, he's an amazing player - but I do tire of constantly hearing how "quite, and workmanlike" he is, and how he "never complains" from the majority of the television announcers/analysts.  I don't know of a player who whines or blankly stares after he is called for a foul more often than ol' Timmy.  That doesn't take away from his talent, but the golden child label the NBA and the networks have for him is getting old.  This is another example of how he can get away with something, when other players (in this case Stoudemire and Diaw) can't.  Its really frustrating, and I can't think of anything more boring than a Pistons/Spurs finals matchup.  Snore.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 16, 2007, 10:59 AM
For me (my opinion of course) the only exciting teams to watch are the GSW, Suns, and Bulls.

The others to me are boring-- Pistons,SAS,Jazz

So, I agree with the possible boring finals matchup Brian explained

DS
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on May 16, 2007, 11:28 AM
Wow, the Bulls have won two in a row.

Hopefully they'll win in Chicago bringing the series back to Detroit for Game 7 - where they will lose.

Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 16, 2007, 05:14 PM
i was listening to david stern on dan patrick this afternoon.  he said the difference between duncan and stoudamire/diaw was that stoudamire and diaw moved about 20 feet towards the incident.  he also said that no team has ever challenged the "getting off the bench" rule.

i feel certain that at least the suns will do that this year, especially if they get booted from the playoffs as a result of two players showing concern in a completely no aggressive manner.

this totally sucks that the team that has played extremely aggressively during the series gets off with an end of the bench spare player getting 2 games and the suns get a 40 minute per game starter and their 7th man benched for a game.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 16, 2007, 05:17 PM
Well, if the Suns win Game 5, none of us will care.

But if the Suns lose Game 5, and the Spurs win the championship, I think a lot of us are going to question the validity of their trophy.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 16, 2007, 11:26 PM
Here's a great read on the subject.  It's lengthy, but worth the time:

Common sense vs. the NBA rulebook (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070516&sportCat=nba)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 17, 2007, 01:00 PM
Game 5 overall was a travesty of justice.

Friggin' Robert Horry hip checks Nash of the court trying to either injure him or induce a fight for suspensions, but even though they didn't get Nash they got Amare.

I wouldn't be surprised if Popovich told them that play was coming up and for all his players to stay put on the bench.

It's an outrage.

The eerie thing is that Amare's "The Spurs are dirty" statement after Game 2 turned out to be a hell of an act of foreshadowing.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 17, 2007, 03:15 PM
You know what else too, I heard Pops tell on radio in an interview that he reminded his team ' we knew they were at a disadvantage and that we knew we would have to take advantage of it' or something like that effect. That's lame ::).

DS
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 17, 2007, 04:55 PM
Here's a great read on the subject.  It's lengthy, but worth the time:

Common sense vs. the NBA rulebook (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070516&sportCat=nba)

that is a very good article.  it pretty much states how everyone (except SA Longhorn) feels about this whole debacle.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 17, 2007, 06:38 PM
Here's a great read on the subject.  It's lengthy, but worth the time:

Common sense vs. the NBA rulebook (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070516&sportCat=nba)

that is a very good article.  it pretty much states how everyone (except SA Longhorn) feels about this whole debacle.

Hahaha ... yup.  I can understand why he defends him though.  I used to completely detest Dennis Rodman when he was a Piston, but once he joined Jordan and the Bulls, I had to cheer for him.  I'd even find myself defending (or, at least, accepting) his behavior from time to time.  It happens.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on May 18, 2007, 09:26 AM
Guess I was wrong on Game 6 in Chicago - too bad.  Would've loved to see a game 7 between Detroit and Chicago.

Oh well.  I guess some things never change.

 ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 21, 2007, 05:19 PM
Guess I was wrong on Game 6 in Chicago - too bad.  Would've loved to see a game 7 between Detroit and Chicago.

Oh well.  I guess some things never change.

 ;)

so far i have been wrong about the mavs, rockets and phoenix.  talk about things never changing. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 22, 2007, 08:46 AM
So what is everyone's opinion about the game last night?  Should LeBron have taken the last shot (which would've been a layup) to tie the game, or did he make the right play by passing to a wide open Marshall for the three (and the win)?
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 22, 2007, 09:19 AM
So what is everyone's opinion about the game last night?  Should LeBron have taken the last shot (which would've been a layup) to tie the game, or did he make the right play by passing to a wide open Marshall for the three (and the win)?

It's lookin' a lot like he should have taken the layup.

I haven't watched an NBA game since they suspended Amare and Diaw.  The NBA threw the series, the Spurs are dirty as ****, and now I suddenly lost interest.  Come on, you've got Bruce Bowen kicking Amare's legs out, you've got Horry hip checking Nash off the court, you've got Ginobili swinging his elbows all over the damn place, and Amare/Diaw get suspended because they stood up.  Gimme a break.

Even if you've got to throw the book at them, you've got to suspend them in the playoffs of all times with no appeal?  They should have at least been suspended for regular season games.

Anyhow, I'm done with the NBA for a while.  I'm sure the Arizona market isn't thrilled either.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on May 22, 2007, 09:29 AM
So what is everyone's opinion about the game last night?  Should LeBron have taken the last shot (which would've been a layup) to tie the game, or did he make the right play by passing to a wide open Marshall for the three (and the win)?

He made the right play.  If they were at home, the layup would've been the right play. 

I'm with Dressel, I'm done with the NBA this year.

I was following Phoenix, Chicago and GS - they're out and so am I.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 23, 2007, 05:21 PM
despite having no interest in any remaining teams, i can't resist watching at least a little.

i think lebron should have gone for the tie.  if he sends it to overtime the cavs have the momentum and probably the win.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on May 29, 2007, 09:21 AM
For the sake of television ratings, you know that the NBA and the networks are PRAYING that LeBron somehow gets into the Finals.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 29, 2007, 09:28 AM
For the sake of television ratings, you know that the NBA and the networks are PRAYING that LeBron somehow gets into the Finals.

I doubt anyone really cares unless they live in Cleveland or San Antonio.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on May 29, 2007, 05:03 PM
bron bron sells alot of jerseys all over the country.  i don't think you can really say that about anyone else left in the playoffs.   i don't think anyone (outside of the contending cities) is really watching anymore anyhow, but it would be even worse without lebron.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on June 1, 2007, 12:00 AM
LeBron put on an amazing display tonight.  Wow .....
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Brian on June 1, 2007, 09:17 AM
Yeah, that was a heck of a performance last night.  I had been watching the game on and off throughout the evening, but really started watching at the beginning of the 4th - a good time to tune in.  It was quite a game to watch, and I really hope Cleveland is able to close them out.  It would be nice to see a different team in the finals, and see LeBron on the big stage.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on June 2, 2007, 11:47 PM
Well done, LBJ.  Well done.
Do I think that Cleveland will beat San Antonio?  No.  Not really.  But when you have a player of LeBron's talent on your team, you just never know.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: JayDouble on June 3, 2007, 01:07 PM
Well done, LBJ.  Well done.
Do I think that Cleveland will beat San Antonio?  No.  Not really.  But when you have a player of LeBron's talent on your team, you just never know.

Key to the series will be how they call Bowen's d on LeBron.  If they let them play Spurs will sweep, if not Cavs get 2 games.   :P
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on June 4, 2007, 06:22 PM
Well done, LBJ.  Well done.
Do I think that Cleveland will beat San Antonio?  No.  Not really.  But when you have a player of LeBron's talent on your team, you just never know.

Key to the series will be how they call Bowen's d on LeBron.  If they let them play Spurs will sweep, if not Cavs get 2 games.   :P

i agree if the spurs get by with bowen 1 on 1 with james, the spurs sweep.  the rest of the players on the cavs will not do as well if james doesn't draw lots of double and triple teams.  but, if james can make duncan come over to help, varajao, gooden and ilgauskas can be very effective.

i am much more excited about the playoffs suddenly.  i hope this is a very good series.  and, i never would have thought i would be saying it, but i am rooting for a team from the east.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on June 6, 2007, 10:45 PM
So ... the Finals begin tomorrow.  Any thoughts or predictions?

I'll say Spurs in 6.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 7, 2007, 03:03 PM
I don't watch basketball, but if the Cav's win, there's probably a nice commission coming our way at work... so I'll be rooting for them. What do you guys think their odds are? I was checking out both of the teams' stats over ESPN, and it looks like the Spurs have an advantage on paper. Like I said, though, I don't watch basketball.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on June 7, 2007, 03:57 PM
Spurs in seven.

Why not.

Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on June 8, 2007, 06:04 AM
Will one of you please wake me up when the Finals are over?  Thanks.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on June 8, 2007, 05:28 PM
i was out last night, but when the radio gave a game update they noted that the game was like 25-22 with a couple minutes left in the 2nd.  i was thinking "oh my god... its gonna be even worse than i thought."
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: JayDouble on June 8, 2007, 05:55 PM
i was out last night, but when the radio gave a game update they noted that the game was like 25-22 with a couple minutes left in the 2nd.  i was thinking "oh my god... its gonna be even worse than i thought."

Yup, first to 80 wins.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on June 11, 2007, 11:06 AM
Spurs in seven.

Why not.



When I said seven, I meant four.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 11, 2007, 01:34 PM
I watched last night's game. It was brutal. The only way the Spurs let that 30 point lead go is out of sheer boredom.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on June 11, 2007, 03:12 PM
I didn't even watch the 4Q but then heard this morning that the Cavs only lost by ten.

Did the Spurs play scrubs the final quarter?

Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on June 11, 2007, 03:18 PM
I didn't even watch the 4Q but then heard this morning that the Cavs only lost by ten.

Did the Spurs play scrubs the final quarter?



For a little while, they were playing their reserves.  It's simply human nature to let up a bit when you're entering the 4th quarter up by 27.

I originally said Spurs in 6, but I'm thinking that it will only take them 5 games.  At the most.  I don't think they'll be playing another game in San Antonio this season.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 12, 2007, 08:44 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing LaBong James score a few points this time around.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on June 15, 2007, 09:07 AM
I've been watching the NBA Finals for over 20 years now, and this year's offering was definitely the worst.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 15, 2007, 09:33 AM
I've been watching the NBA Finals for over 20 years now, and this year's offering was definitely the worst.

That's because the Spurs are a bunch of low rent creeps and thugs.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Brian on June 15, 2007, 09:37 AM
Yeah, although it was nice seeing LeBron/Cleveland make it to the Finals this year, it seemed like one of the more "ho-hum" series in recent history.  I really enjoy the NBA, and usually watch the entire finals series, but found myself this year just checking in on the games more and more.  San Antonio was obviously the better team (at least in this series - I still think Phoenix could have beaten them), but that sure was an ugly, boring series for a Finals matchup.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on June 15, 2007, 06:32 PM
i think a big part of the problem with this years finals is that we have all know who the new champs would be for like a month.   and then they win in the least inspiring method possible.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on June 18, 2007, 11:01 AM
TV ratings were the lowest since 2003.

No big surprise.

Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Neal on June 18, 2007, 02:47 PM
TV ratings were the lowest since 2003.

No big surprise.



Not just the lowest since 2003 ... the lowest EVER.  Well, or at least since the Nielsen ratings started.

Table of NBA Finals average Nielsen ratings since 1976

CBS 1976 Boston Celtics 4, Phoenix Suns 2 - 11.5
CBS 1977 Portland Trailblazers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 2 - 12.7
CBS 1978 Washington Bullets 4, Seattle Supersonics 3 - 9.9
CBS 1979 Seattle Supersonics 4, Washington Bullets 1 - 7.2
CBS 1980 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 2 - 8.0
CBS 1981 Boston Celtics 4, Houston Rockets 2 - 6.7
CBS 1982 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 2 - 13.0
CBS 1983 Philadelphia 76ers 4, Los Angeles Lakers 0 - 12.3
CBS 1984 Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 3 - 12.3
CBS 1985 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 2 - 13.7
CBS 1986 Boston Celtics 4, Houston Rockets 2 - 14.1
CBS 1987 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 2 - 15.9
CBS 1988 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Detroit Pistons 3 - 15.4
CBS 1989 Detroit Pistons 4, Los Angeles Lakers 0 - 15.1
CBS 1990 Detroit Pistons 4, Portland Trailblazers 1 - 12.3
NBC 1991 Chicago Bulls 4, Los Angeles Lakers 1 - 15.8
NBC 1992 Chicago Bulls 4, Portland Trailblazers 2 - 14.2
NBC 1993 Chicago Bulls 4, Phoenix Suns 2 - 17.9
NBC 1994 Houston Rockets 4, New York Knicks 3 - 12.4
NBC 1995 Houston Rockets 4, Orlando Magic 0 - 13.9
NBC 1996 Chicago Bulls 4, Seattle Supersonics 2 - 16.7
NBC 1997 Chicago Bulls 4, Utah Jazz 2 - 16.8
NBC 1998 Chicago Bulls 4, Utah Jazz 2 - 18.7
NBC 1999 San Antonio Spurs 4, New York Knicks 1 - 11.3
NBC 2000 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Indiana Pacers 2 - 11.6
NBC 2001 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 1 - 12.1
NBC 2002 Los Angeles Lakers 4, New Jersey Nets 0 - 10.2
ABC 2003 San Antonio Spurs 4, New Jersey Nets 2 - 6.5
ABC 2004 Detroit Pistons 4, Los Angeles Lakers 1 - 11.5
ABC 2005 San Antonio Spurs 4, Detroit Pistons 3 - 8.2
ABC 2006 Miami Heat 4, Dallas Mavericks 2 - 8.5
ABC 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers 0, San Antonio Spurs 4 - 6.2
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: ruiner on June 18, 2007, 04:35 PM
Thanks - that's interesting.  I was just passing on what I had heard on NPR this morning.  They were close.

Check out those MJ numbers.... :-*
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 18, 2007, 06:30 PM


Not just the lowest since 2003 ... the lowest EVER.  Well, or at least since the Nielsen ratings started.


Serves the NBA right for the way the Suns/Spurs series was handled (fixed).

Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: Morgbug on June 19, 2007, 12:01 AM


Check out those MJ numbers.... :-*

The trend I noticed was since the NBA players started getting arrested more, ratings have gone down.  Maybe Stern recognizes something? :-X
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: DP on June 19, 2007, 01:29 AM
I'm really tired of people griping about the Spurs/Suns series being fixed. Yes, it is a stupid rule - I agree with that. But it has been in place for many many years, and if it is in place, it has to be upheld. If Stern/Stu Jackson had handed out no suspensions, bending the rule in that way would allow for people in future situations to argue the same case, and would always point back to this one saying "See, you let them go, why not me?"

Several other things to consider - part of being a championship team is is having poise and control in situations like that. Stoudemire and Diaw knew the rule, and they chose to follow only emotions, so it is their own fault they got suspended, even though it is a retarded rule. There were almost a dozen other players on the Suns bench who chose to not step on the court, even though I'm sure they were jolted by the hard foul and were concerned for their teammate as well. Another thing is to remember that the Spurs beat the Suns three times WITH Stoudemire and Diaw; it's not like they could only muster wins when those two guys weren't playing. And they still had a chance to correct it - Stoudemire was back for Game 6, the Suns could have won and sent the series back to Phoenix for a home court Game 7 with all their players available, guess what, they couldn't do it. The Suns are a great team but the Spurs are better and much more rounded, they always beat them and I am pretty sure that is not going to change for at least a few more years. In 2005 Stoudemire torched the Spurs for 37 a game and SA won the series 4-1. Trend? Playing no defense makes it tough to win a 7 game series against a disciplined, defensive and versatile team like San Antonio. The Suns couldn't even make it past the Mavs last year, despite Dallas not even being as good defensively as the Spurs.

I also find it hilarious that people claim Stern fixed the series to pave the Spurs road to the Finals, when he and everyone else know that the Suns would draw much higher ratings in the Finals. If any series were being fixed, it would be to draw the team that brings in more cash. Cavs vs Suns would have brought much, much higher ratings.

The bottom line is Stoudemire and Diaw chose to step well onto the court; they could have chose not to and nothing would have even gone into Stu Jackson's hands. However, the rule does definitely need to be revised.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 Playoffs
Post by: john todd on June 19, 2007, 05:05 PM
The Suns couldn't even make it past the Mavs last year, despite Dallas not even being as good defensively as the Spurs.

its a good thing defense isn't the only facet of the game or the mavs wouldn't have been able to beat the spurs.