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Title: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Matt on December 10, 2003, 09:34 PM
50.  50 Cent  Get Rich or Die Tryin'
49.  Ryan Adams  lloR N kcoR
48.  The Bad Plus  These Are the Vistas
47.  David Banner Mississippi: The Album
46.  Basement Jaxx  Kish Kash
45.  Beyonce  Dangerously in Love
44.  Blink-182  Blink-182
43.  Blur  Think Tank
42.  Brand New  Deja Entendu Triple
41.  Johnny Cash  Unearthed
40.  Cat Power  You Are Free
39.  The Dandy Warhols  Welcome to the Monkey House
38.  The Darkness  Permission to Land
37.  Dashboard Confessional  A Mark, a Mission, a Brand, a Scar
36.  Drive-By Truckers  Decoration Day
35.  Kathleen Edwards  Failer
34.  Electric Six  Fire
33.  Fannypack  So Stylistic
32.  Fountains of Wayne  Welcome Interstate Managers
31.  Al Green  I Can't Stop
30.  Jay-Z  The Black Album
29.  Junior Senior  D-D-Don't Don't Stop the Beat
28.  R. Kelly  Chocolate Factory
27.  Kid Rock  Kid Rock
26.  Kings of Leon  Youth and Young Manhood
25.  The Libertines  Up the Bracket
24.  Linkin Park  Meteora
23.  John Mayer  Heavier Things
22.  Metallica  St. Anger
21.  Van Morrison  What's Wrong with this Picture?
20.  Willie Nelson and Ray Price  Run That By Me One More Time
19.  The New Pornographers  Electric Version
18.  OutKast  SpeakerBoxxx/The Love Below
17.  Peaches  Fatherfucker
16.  The Postal Service  Give Up
15.  Radiohead  Hail to the Thief
14.  Robert Randolph and the Family Band  Unclassified
13.  The Raveonettes  Chain Gang of Love
12.  Damien Rice  O
11.  Richard X  Presents His X-Factor Vol. 1
10.  The Shins  Chutes Too Narrow
09.  The Sleepy Jackson  Lovers
08.  Sting  Sacred Love
07.  The Strokes  Room On Fire
06.  James Blood Ulmer  No Escape From the Blues: The Electric Lady Sessions
05.  Rufus Wainwright  Want One
04.  The White Stripes  Elephant
03.  Yeah Yeah Yeahs  Fever to Tell
02.  Neil Young and Crazy Horse  Greendale
01.  Warren Zevon  The Wind

Initial thoughts:  First I've heard of The Shins!  I'll need to check them out--they sound hot.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Chris on December 10, 2003, 11:09 PM
I pity the fool.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Scott on December 10, 2003, 11:17 PM
OK...I have

15.  Radiohead  Hail to the Thief
04.  The White Stripes  Elephant

And...
02.  Neil Young and Crazy Horse  Greendale

This has been on my gotta buy but haven't yet :-\

Gotta love me, I'll agree that Elephant is better than Hail to the Thief...I've heard good stuff about Greendale.  Don't hate me Neil :'(
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: jjks on December 10, 2003, 11:59 PM
ahem...who was it that's been preaching The Shins 'round these parts. I'll mail you copies if that's what it takes to get you to check them out (offer good for Virex only, while supplies last).

Kings of Leon wasn't half bad either, I seem to have 13 of the top 50. I've wanted to check out Peaches also, if only for the name of the CD...which evidently is allowed on these forums too.

Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on December 11, 2003, 12:32 AM
I take this list with about a boatload of salt. Especially when they list one hit wonders like "Junior Senior", as well as Metallica's "St. Anger" which has only sold about 1.5 million copies in the U.S.

I think it's a shame that they left out Audioslave, in additon to Hatebreed's newest album, which is being heralded as the one of, if not the greatest hardcore albums of all time. Not to mention it debuted No. 30 on Billboards Top 200, and made #1 on their hard charts.

I'd love to visit the colleges and coffee shops they poll kids at for these ridiculous lists.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Matt on December 12, 2003, 11:34 AM
I take this list with about a boatload of salt. Especially when they list one hit wonders like "Junior Senior", as well as Metallica's "St. Anger" which has only sold about 1.5 million copies in the U.S.

I think it's a shame that they left out Audioslave, in additon to Hatebreed's newest album, which is being heralded as the one of, if not the greatest hardcore albums of all time. Not to mention it debuted No. 30 on Billboards Top 200, and made #1 on their hard charts.

I'd love to visit the colleges and coffee shops they poll kids at for these ridiculous lists.

I don't really want to comment on this list because I've only heard a handful of these albums, so I won't.

'Course, as it always needs to be said with these types of things, high sales don't necessarily equal good, and low sales don't necessarily equal bad.

And Audioslave came out in 2002--that probably explains why it's not on this "best of 2003" list.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on December 12, 2003, 12:39 PM
Must have been that I didn't get Audioslave until 2003, then.

I just find it hard to belive that more than 1 person would have mentioned a band called "Fannypack", in order to make a list.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Jeff on December 12, 2003, 04:02 PM
Man.

I am SO out of touch.

Out of this list, all I have are:

22.  Metallica  St. Anger
15.  Radiohead  Hail to the Thief

I'm a little disappointed that they left Liz Phair off the list...
I guess I just don't get the kids today.

Or, I spend all my money on SW Action Figures and DVDs and just don't buy CDs anymore.

Jeff

Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Matt on December 12, 2003, 04:29 PM
I'm a little disappointed that they left Liz Phair off the list...
I guess I just don't get the kids today.

Yeah, I noticed the exclusion of both the Liz Phair and Zwan albums--both of which came out this year, and that I at least liked a little bit.

However, at best, they were average in quality compared to what those two artists (Phair and Billy Corgan) have done in the past, so that's probably why they weren't on there.

I wonder if WhiteChocolateSpaceEgg (1988) and Machina (2000) made their best-of lists for their respective years. . .
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Scott on December 12, 2003, 04:44 PM
Sweet, Jeff has as many as I do, now I don't feel as bad

RS also has their Top 10 movies in the latest issue (probably on their website too)

1. Mystic River
2. ROTK
3. Lost in Translation
4. Master and Commander
5. Cold Mountain
6. American Splendor
7. Big Fish
8. A Mighty Wind
9. Kill Bill: Vol. 1
10. Angels in America

Sadly, I've only seen A Mighty Wind and want to see almost all of these
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Matt on December 12, 2003, 04:48 PM
RS also has their Top 10 movies in the latest issue (probably on their website too)

1. Mystic River
2. ROTK
3. Lost in Translation
4. Master and Commander
5. Cold Mountain
6. American Splendor
7. Big Fish
8. A Mighty Wind
9. Kill Bill: Vol. 1
10. Angels in America

Sadly, I've only seen A Mighty Wind and want to see almost all of these

Nice on-topic reply, dickwad.  (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)

How about a new "movies" thread?
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Scott on December 12, 2003, 04:49 PM
I thought I was a "gaywad" :'(
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Matt on December 12, 2003, 04:51 PM
I thought I was a "gaywad" :'(

That was last week.

This week, dickwad.

Next week, either "dickhead" or "assface".

Your preference?
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Scott on December 12, 2003, 04:53 PM
dickface if I have to choose :-\
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Matt on December 12, 2003, 04:54 PM
dickface if I have to choose :-\

Dickface it is!

#15/15   :-\
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on December 14, 2003, 09:49 PM
Sweet, Jeff has as many as I do, now I don't feel as bad

RS also has their Top 10 movies in the latest issue (probably on their website too)

1. Mystic River
2. ROTK
3. Lost in Translation
4. Master and Commander
5. Cold Mountain
6. American Splendor
7. Big Fish
8. A Mighty Wind
9. Kill Bill: Vol. 1
10. Angels in America

Sadly, I've only seen A Mighty Wind and want to see almost all of these

Incredible. 4 of those movies aren't even out yet. I pity anyone who reads/subscribes to this ****.  
Title: Re: Rolling Stone's 50 Best Albums of 2003
Post by: Matt on December 14, 2003, 11:00 PM
Sweet, Jeff has as many as I do, now I don't feel as bad

RS also has their Top 10 movies in the latest issue (probably on their website too)

1. Mystic River
2. ROTK
3. Lost in Translation
4. Master and Commander
5. Cold Mountain
6. American Splendor
7. Big Fish
8. A Mighty Wind
9. Kill Bill: Vol. 1
10. Angels in America

Sadly, I've only seen A Mighty Wind and want to see almost all of these

Incredible. 4 of those movies aren't even out yet. I pity anyone who reads/subscribes to this ****.  

So. . .  what in the world does "aren't even out yet" have to do with anything?  Because a movie hasn't gone into wide release yet--that means that a writer who has already seen it in a press screening shouldn't put it on his list?

I'm assuming you're talking about these four movies:

-Return of the King
-Cold Mountain
-Big Fish
-Angels in America

Now, ROTK, of course, comes out in two days, and I'm assuming that it's already had plenty of press screenings in New York and Los Angeles.  

Cold Mountain is being released on Christmas.  Again, I'll assume it's already been screened for the press.

Big Fish is already playing in N.Y. and L.A., goes into limited release on Christmas, and releases wide on January 9th.  I know that it's already had some pre-release screenings, because Kneel Before Zod saw it in Dallas last month, and posted about it at R-------m afterward.

Angels in America, I don't know anything about at all, but after looking at IMDB, it looks like it was an HBO mini-series that ran in two parts--the first being on December 7th, the other being tonight (14th).

(There's also another film that I've been hearing a lot about, called In America, which looks like it went into limited release in the U.S. on November 26th.  But I'm guessing that the list was referring to the previous film, AIA.

Now, I'll agree with you that Rolling Stone has turned into a sh!t publication--but there's absolutely nothing wrong with including movies that haven't gone into wide release yet on a "best of the year" list.  Of course, if the writer hasn't seen those films, and included them in his list anyway, for whatever reason, then there's a problem.  But I doubt that's the case here.

(By the way--I'm going to see a sneak preview of House of Sand and Fog on Tuesday night, but it doesn't go into wide release until December 26th.  Does that mean that I'm not entitled to say anything about it until then?)