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Title: Where to next?
Post by: Morgbug on October 9, 2005, 01:03 AM
Well, I suppose the first thing I should start out by saying is thank you to all of the good folks around here for all the help given over the last year and change. 

For the most part, my vintage loose figure collection is complete.  Here's where I am, for the most part and what I have:

1.   Luke Skywalker farm boy blonde hair - complete - check saber
2.   Luke Skywalker farm boy brown hair - complete
3.   Princess Leia - repro weapon need original
4.   R2-D2 - upgrade only to mint
5.   Chewbacca - need to upgrade, bowcaster original
6.   Chewbacca green limbs - need bowcaster
7.   C-3PO - shiny, tight limbs
8.   Darth Vader - mint
9.   Stormtrooper - 3, all clean, none dead mint - weapons all original
10.   Han Solo large head - mint, original black blaster
11.   Han Solo small head - good, slightly yellow sleeves, original blaster
12.   Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi gray hair - mint
13.   Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi white hair - slight hair loss at front, still nice
14.   Sand People regular - have near mint upgrade, complete and good second, dirty cape
15.   Sand People hollow tubes - complete
16.   Jawa cloth cape - mint, need blaster
17.   Jawa vinyl cape - Got It!  ;D
18.   Death Squad Commander - slight belt wear, blaster original
19.   Greedo - mint except for slight paint loss to white of left eye, blaster original
20.   Walrusman - great except for slight paint loss to mouth (pink), blaster original
21.   Hammerhead - mint, blaster original
22.   Snaggletooth red - limbs tight, but paint loss to toes (nails), blaster original
23.   Luke Skywalker X-wing pilot - good, paint loss to hand, helmet dirty, blaster original - should upgrade
24.   R4-D4 - very good, hard to upgrade from ebay
25.   Death Star Droid - POS, need upgrade with tight limbs, better paint
26.   Power Droid - tiny amount of paint loss various, legs click, very good
27.   Boba Fett - near mint, blaster original
28.   Luke Skywalker Bespin blonde hair - mint, original blue blaster, original saber
29.   Luke Skywalker Bespin brown hair - loose right arm, some paint rubs, blaster original, saber repro >:(
30.   Han Solo Hoth outfit - good, paint loss to hands (minor), blaster original
31.   Leia Organa Bespin Gown low collar - very nice, original blaster
32.   Leia Organa Bespin Gown turtleneck - slight nose rub, otherwise good, original blaster
33.   Bossk - mint, original blaster
34.   Bossk green limbs - fair, lots of wear, need blaster but no need to upgrade figure
35.   IG-88 - mint, both original weapons
36.   Rebel Soldier (Hoth) - mint, very tight limbs, need blaster
37.   FX-7 - very nice
38.   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) - mint, tight limbs, slight yellowing of torso, head, blaster original
39.   Lando Calrissian smiling - mint, blaster original
40.   Lando Calrissian - excellent but for paint loss on left index finger, blaster original
41.   Bespin Security Guard - nice, paint a little dull, original blaster, Fu Manchu
42.   Yoda orange snake - complete, light green skin, snake, belt cane original
43.   Yoda brown snake - dark green skin, belt, snake original, need dark brown cane >:(
44.   Leia Hoth outfit - mint original blaster
45.   Rebel commander - mint original blaster
46.   AT-AT Driver - near mint, original weapon x2
47.   2-1 B - left arm slightly loose, otherwise mint, weapon original
48.   Imperial Commander - near mint, blaster original
49.   Ugnaught purple smock - mint, case original
50.   Ugnaught blue smock  - need   
51.   Lobot - mint, original blaster
52.   Dengar - near mint, original rifle
53.   Han Solo Bespin Outfit - some paint loss, could use upgrade54.   See-Threepio removeable limbs - mint in Kenner baggie
55.   R2-D2 with sensorscope - mint, tight limbs, head clicks, sensor up and down smoothly
56.   Luke Skywalker Hoth gear - near mint, original rifle
57.   AT-AT commander - near mint, original blaster
58.   Cloud Car Pilot - near mint complete accessories
59.   Bespin Security Guard black - mint, original blaster
60.   Zuckuss - mint, original rifle
61.   4-LOM - mint, original weapon
62.   Imperial Tie Fighter Pilot - good, some paint wear on chest, original weapon.
63.   Admiral Ackbar - dead mint from card
64.   Gamorrean Guard - mint, original weapon
65.   Luke Skywalker Jedi Knight green saber sewn collar - mint, original weapons
66.   Luke Skywalker Jedi Knight blue saber snap collar - dead mint from card
67.   Princess Leia Organa Boussh Disguise - mint, original
68.   Emperor’s Royal Guard - mint, original
69.   Chief Chirpa - red spotting on back of arm, otherwise good, need weapon
70.   Logray - mint, complete except for shaman staff
71.   Logray Macau - mint complete
72.   Klaatu - dead mint from card
73.   Weequay - mint complete
74.   Rebel Commando - mint but for small black mark on right leg, tight limbs, original weapon
75.   General Madine - mint complete
76.   Lando Calrissian Skiff Guard disguise - very good, limbs not completely tight, complete
77.   Biker Scout long mouth - 2; one good, some paint loss; second dead mint from card
78.   Biker Scout short mouth - do not have
79.   Nien Nunb - mint, complete from card
80.   Squid Head - mint complete
81.   Ree-Yees - dead mint from card (2)
82.   Bib Fortuna - very minor paint loss on fingers, complete
83.   Nikto - mint, complete
84.   8D8 - dead mint from card
85.   Princess Leia Organa combat poncho - mint, complete
86.   Wicket W. Warrick - mint, complete
87.   The Emperor - very good, but small scrape on nose!
88.   Klaatu - mint complete
89.   B-wing pilot - dead mint from card
90.   AT-ST Driver - very good, minor rub to left shoulder emblem, complete
91.   Han Solo trench coat plain collar - dead mint from card
92.   Han Solo trench coat camouflage collar - mint, complete
93.   Teebo - mint complete need battle ax
94.   Prune Face - mint complete light green pants
95.   Rancor Keeper - mint, complete
96.   Lumat - mint, complete
97.   Paploo - mint, complete
98.   Romba - mint, complete
99.   Luke Skywalker battle poncho - mint complete
100.   R2-D2 with pop up light saber - mint, complete
101.   Amanaman - mint, complete with coin
102.   Barada - mint, complete
103.   Imperial Gunner - mint, complete   
104.   Luke Skywalker Imperial stormtrooper outfit - mint, complete
105.   Han Solo in carbonite chamber - mint, complete
106.   EV-9D9 - good; left arm comes off; head loose but poseable; I’ll live with it
107.   Warok - mint complete
108.   Anakin Skywalker - mint complete
109.   A-Wing Pilot - very good, tiny paint loss to chest silver, complete
110.   Lando Calrissian General Pilot - mint, complete
111.   Yak Face - mint, complete
112.   Imperial Dignitary - mint, complete
113.   Blue Snaggletooth - tiny paint loss to front and back of boots, no weapon, otherwise great
114.   Jabba the Hutt with Salacious Crumb - mint, complete except for chain
115.   Max Rebo - very good, complete, paint fading to arms
116.   Sy Snootles - mint, complete, silver microphone
117.   Droopy McCool - mint, complete, silver microphone

Droids
119. R2-D2 - dead mint from card
120. C-3PO - excellent condition, limbs moderately loose
121. Thall Joben - dead mint from card
122. Jord Dusat - dead mint from card
123. Kea Moll - minty as can be
124. Kez Iban - thanks Stormie/Bob
125. Uncle Gundy - dead mint from card
126. Jann Tosh - in transit
127. Tig Fromm - loose limbs, have repro weapon
128. Sise Fromm - dead mint from card

Ewoks
129. King Gorneesh - mint complete
130. Lady Gorneesh - mint on card
131. Dulok Scout - mint complete
132. Dulok Shaman - mint on card
134 Wicket W. Warrick - need
135. Logray - need

Since I have no grand love for the Ewoks, I'll finish them in due time, but no hurry. 

I've a few figures on trilogo cards and I do like them, but I worry about finishing that collection off. 

I picked up a boxed X-wing in very nice shape so I'm contemplating vehicles, but I want minty boxes as well.  I'd probably dump most of the modern vehicles to get there as well. 

Creatures are of interest, boxed as well. 

So, what would you proceed to chase down next?  Suggestions please, all are valid. 
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: DSJ™ on October 9, 2005, 01:48 AM
First of all, Congrats Brent.  :)  Until you get some of those repro weapons out of the way and get the odd missing ones, your not really complete.  :P 

There are many items to collect now:

Accessories (laser cannon's, Ewok combat cet, coins, Maintenance Energizer), collector cases, 12" figures, creatures, micro sets, playsets, die cast vehicles, vehicles etc. Don't forget about the DT's.  ;)

A carded collection, figure variants, cromalins, proofs, mock ups, store displays, prototypes (hardcopys/first shots), unproduced items, 2-up's, 4-up's, foreign items, bootlegs etc. Oy, me thinks they are out of your league.  ;D But to own any one of them is super, it's history man.  ;)

Boxed or loose is up to you, it all come down too is where do you really want to go from here. Sit down and have a look at the books, Sansweet's and Kellerman's, check the archive and have a looky to see what is really out there, take your time and see what appeals to you. Is it the route you want to go, is it going to be eye candy to you. 

Just remember, when you get to the bigger and higher end items, it may take years to complete. Same with a character focus, it takes time.

Most of all, do you have the room and the money to take on another challenge. Listen to you heart and feel the flow force. Go with what you can do.  :)

What ever you take on, I wish you the best of luck. You have come far from the time I have known you. Well done.  8)
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: CorranHorn on October 9, 2005, 02:31 AM
Brent,

Congrats on the completion of your figure collection, even though they aren't all minty mint, it's always an accomplishment to get them all. Of course I'm not there yet myself...

If you're looking for something next to collect, might I suggest the Mini-Rigs. While not overly difficult to find, there is some work to be done if you want mint pieces, especially for the POTF mini-rigs. Plus you can go crazy and try to get the US and Tri-Logo boxes which adds another dimension to the collecting. They're also relatively inexpensive and don't take up as much space as the bigger vehicles.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: Andy_R on October 10, 2005, 01:55 AM
Congrats on completing your loose collection. 
If you're going after carded figures next, I suggest you find a focus.  Maybe a character or even a cardback/offer focus ... something specific.  You'll get lost if you have a general "carded" focus.  Very lost.

Good luck!  :)

Andy
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: evenflow on October 12, 2005, 08:38 AM
WHere to next is the struggle i have been having.

I am saving up for Vlix becuase i have finally come to understand that i must have him.  ;D

Other than that i need:

Lili Ledy Jawa
Lili Ledy Bib Fortuna
Yoda w/ Green Snake
Luke with Red/Orange hair
I could use a new Luke Jedi w/ Blue Saber
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: Morgbug on October 12, 2005, 10:51 PM

I could use a new Luke Jedi w/ Blue Saber

Well that one I have covered, at least.  Came from a card too.  I bought it off ebay and the bubble was only partially dented, but badly yellowed.  He packed it poorly and it arrived totally thrashed - crushed, cracked, falling apart.  So I opened it and the bonus was it was a snap collar cape.  So that Luke is done. 

I'm still at a loss where to go though.  I know I'm unlikely to finish a carded collection though I do have a fondness for trilogo's. 

Ships are neat but room consuming.  I may have to unload a lot of my modern ships to make room.
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: JediMAC on October 13, 2005, 03:26 AM
Congrats on finishing up, Brent!  Feels pretty good, eh?  I'm still lacking the damned Yakface that I've never bothered tracking down over the years, for whatever reason...

So, what would you proceed to chase down next? Suggestions please, all are valid.

Are you just talking about the 4" line, or are you willing to delve into other vintage areas?  If the latter, then I would highly recommend going after the Kenner Micro Collection line, if you haven't already.  One of the greatest Star Wars collectibles ever, IMO.  I've still got my entire complete (pristine) Micro collection from my youth, and it's still the pride and joy of my collection.

But God how I wish I could afford to go after some of the unproduced sets from that line that are lingering about in extremely limited quantities out there...
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: Brian on October 13, 2005, 03:13 PM
Congratulations Brent, I bet it feels good to have that portion of your collection all taken care of.  That is one fun thing about the vintage line(s) I think, they are "finite" and you can actually see and hopefully achieve a complete collection.  I'm (very slowly) working towards accomplishing the complete loose figure collection as well, but I've got a ways to go.  I've often wondered where I could/would go after that, especially if the modern stuff was dying down in the future.  I do like the suggestions here of vehicles, carded figures, the Micro collection (quite cool I thought), and the Mini Rigs.  All of those areas would be fun to delve into I think.  Only you know what you'd like best, and what you have the space for.  Best of luck on the next collecting goal!
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: evenflow on October 14, 2005, 11:35 AM

I could use a new Luke Jedi w/ Blue Saber

Well that one I have covered, at least.  Came from a card too.  I bought it off ebay and the bubble was only partially dented, but badly yellowed.  He packed it poorly and it arrived totally thrashed - crushed, cracked, falling apart.  So I opened it and the bonus was it was a snap collar cape.  So that Luke is done. 

I'm still at a loss where to go though.  I know I'm unlikely to finish a carded collection though I do have a fondness for trilogo's. 

Ships are neat but room consuming.  I may have to unload a lot of my modern ships to make room.

One of the last pick ups i got was a snap cape Luke. So i crossed that one off.
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: Morgbug on October 14, 2005, 11:57 AM


Are you just talking about the 4" line, or are you willing to delve into other vintage areas?  If the latter, then I would highly recommend going after the Kenner Micro Collection line, if you haven't already.  One of the greatest Star Wars collectibles ever, IMO.  I've still got my entire complete (pristine) Micro collection from my youth, and it's still the pride and joy of my collection.


My first reaction is to say no, I'm not interested in stepping outside the 4" line.  So much to collect there and so much neat stuff yet to find.  I do like the Die-cast stuff a fair bit though. 

See I have some carded figures; I have a boxed ship.  I like the beasts (I have a loose vinty Rancor), I like the various accessories.  Aaaargh. 

I do think the smartest thing I could do is just back off until we've moved though.  I hardly think buying up ships is a sensible thing to do at this point.  The less I have to worry about carded figures would probably be good too.
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 14, 2005, 12:31 PM
Yeah, being stuck in the middle of a pending move makes this a little tricky to decide.

I've always liked the idea of a character focus.  I've got a bit of a modern Darth Vader focus started, and look forward to doing the same with vintage Canadian carded Vaders.  Some day.

I guess the advantage of something like a character focus is that you're limited in the amount of items available (hopefully keeping expenses under control), and carded figures don't take up much room for storage if you start this before moving.   :)
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: ruiner on October 14, 2005, 01:24 PM
Wow, what an accomplishment! 

How should one start collecting loose vintage figures?  Did you rely a lot on ebay or did you hit up antique shows and the like?

Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: Morgbug on October 14, 2005, 02:09 PM
I relied almost exclusively on ebay.  I think if you're in the US and a larger center, you may have more options.  Up here there's next to no one carrying vintage stuff and the only place that does has nothing good left. 

I got some starter help from some folks on the board here as well - Scott and Reconsgt sent me some figures for free and I got a ton of advice here on the board in that funny thread at the top of the vinty section. 

But ebay was it for me. 

As for a character focus?  I'm not sure, I'm not overly obsessive about anything in star wars, except maybe ewoks :-X
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: john todd on October 16, 2005, 12:56 PM
i have always figured that if/when i finish my carded collection, i would go for the 12ers.  they are kinda pricey boxed in nice condition, but there aren't very many of them, and they are kinda cool.
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: JediMAC on October 17, 2005, 02:20 AM
My first reaction is to say no, I'm not interested in stepping outside the 4" line.  So much to collect there and so much neat stuff yet to find.  I do like the Die-cast stuff a fair bit though.

Just so there's no confusion Brent, I was talking about those Hoth, Bespin and Death Star Micro playsets with diecast mini figures, and not the Diecast vehicle line with the carded ships.

One thing I'd love to track down is a few store displays, especially the ones from the first 21 figures, like the 21 bell that I so vividly remember in the toy stores from my youth.

But if you want to stick with the 4" line Brent, without going to deep into stuff like protos, hardcopies, 4-ups, etc., then maybe just tracking down the vehicles/playsets would be the natural progression from here.  Start with stuff from ANH, and take it from there.  Or just do the Mini-Rigs, like suggested earlier.  Or, dare I say it, try to put together a carded subset, like all of ROTJ (if you want to start easy).

The possiblities are endless, I suppose.  Good luck choosing!
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 25, 2005, 06:12 PM
I guess it's only been a month or so since you started this thread Brent, but have you had any further thoughts on "where to next?"

Or is this a decision to be delayed until after the move?
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: Morgbug on November 25, 2005, 08:35 PM
Yeah, I kind of have decided and I'm kind of being very slow about buying stuff.  Well, slow for me anyway :-[

I'm definitely branching out and watching most of the areas I mentioned.  Those include:

trilogo figures
general carded figures
playsets
mini-rigs
vehicles

 ::) ::)

Yeah, I made a decision.  Basically I'm in research mode right now, trying to get a good handle on the current prices as they cruise along.  If a piece looks nice and the seller has decent feedback plus the item price stays low, then I'll buy. 

Thus far most of the vehicles have gone fairly high compared to what I was thinking.  Part of the problem is I want the boxes in nice shape (shelf wear and some creases are fine, but no major damage), POP intact and the cardboard inserts as well.  I did pick up a nice Star Wars boxed basic X-wing in good shape several weeks ago.  It came with a nice recarded Luke pilot and I got it for about $45.  The Luke is an upgrade to the crappy figure I currently have.  But the recard is quite nice too. 

I posted the link in the other thread (recent purchases) of the trilogo Rancor Keeper I grabbed cheap and I'll keep doing that.  I really like the trilogo cardback and have about 10 figures so far.  The real drawback for me will come when I have to get the rares (last 17, Madine, Fett) on that cardback :-\

For general cards, I'd almost like to get a full set of 12 backs at some point, but I'll be patient.  I've been watching lots of auctions and they are all currently well outside what I want to pay (though they aren't unrealistic prices, I'm just cheap).  I also wouldn't mind getting the figures on the original cardback they were released on but I'll see.  I may just settle for having each figure carded on some cardback.  That would eliminate paying a grand sum for Madine on trilogo. 

Playsets are neat and I'm treating them like vehicles.  I want complete, nice boxes with inserts.  Some are really pricey, some not so much.  Neat stuff, but I think between these and the vehicles I'm going to unload a chunk of the modern playsets and vehicles in favor of displaying these.  I'll still keep many of the vehicles I have, but only in the OTC window box packages or the POTJ AT-ST for example.

The mini-rigs are, for the most part, quite inexpensive and numerous on ebay, so I expect I'll finish those first.  I've bought a couple already but I'm waiting for them to arrive to determine whether I got a good deal or not.  They are supposedly brand new, never removed though the boxes aren't sealed.  We'll see.  I paid a little more than the going rate for loose with box but no insert.  I might have acquired something nice, I might not have.  Seller was pretty decent guy though, so I'm optimistic.

I've bid on a couple of DT Lukes as well, but no joy there ;)
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 25, 2005, 08:53 PM
I'm just curious, when you refer to trilogo, do you mean the European releases, or do you mean Canadian?  Sometimes I get a little confused because I've seen the term use interchangeably.   :-\
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: Morgbug on November 25, 2005, 11:21 PM
That's understandable Jesse.  But there is a considerable difference between the vintage and modern stuff. 

Modern trilogo's like you and I are used to in Canada are quite different.  But forget modern for the moment.  When you consider Canadian carded vintage Star Wars figures, I believe they were only bilingual.  Vintage trilogo cards were primarily released overseas, in Europe I believe. 

This picture exemplifies the card style I refer to as trilogo (http://www.toysrgus.com/index.php?action=disp_item&item_id=53085) when I'm talking about vintage.  I consider it to be quite dramatically different from the other styles.  I find it quite appealing too and there's a certain appeal because like you, I've collected modern in Canada and get fairly annoyed when US collectors turn their noses up at our modern trilogo figures.  Fine, I'll go out and collect foreign cards then :P

Part of my love of trilogo's stems from the first vintage carded figure I won on ebay.  I had just started collecting vintage loose and was looking at some auctions on ebay when I stumbled across a biker scout carded.  It looked cool and really different from the regular vintage stuff I'd seen as a kid (and never bought).  I had a fair chunk of change at the time from selling my vintage hot wheels.  I put in a bid a little under $25 and walked away thinking I wouldn't win.  But I did.  It arrived and it was bloody pristine :o  Colours were dramatic, card was as clean as anything I see in stores these days and the bubble was perfect.  Everything was so great, I sent some pictures to Dale because I thought it was a recard.  Turns out it wasn't and I was pretty much hooked. 

Trilogo's are also interesting because every figure has been released on that particular cardback.  The logo's correspond to the movie that the figure was released during.  Unfortunately though, some of the trilogo's are considerably rarer than their regular vintage carded counterparts and command rather frightening premiums.  I believe Madine is a good example.  But Yakface is a reasonable example as well.  A couple of not so beautiful carded Yaks went for around $200-300 in the past couple of weeks.  Roughly the same range as a 12-back on regular US card.  Pristine carded (not AFA-ptui) versions command much higher values. 

At least that's what I think I know about them for now.  There are much more vintagey guys around here that can correct any errors I've made.
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: CorranHorn on November 26, 2005, 12:37 AM
Just to point out a couple things on the Tri-Logos. They were the line that followed the ROTJ line in most European countries (assuming they had the ROTJ line) and not everything was done in the most efficient manner. There are many instances of figures being packaged with the wrong weapons, so if you're a stickler for such things, keep an eye peeled there. Also I believe Tri-Logos are more likely to have figures put on the wrong cards than any of the other types of carded figures out there. Oh and just to clear up a small point, Tri-Logos only have the ROTJ logo on them, if you see a Tri-Logo card with "A New Hope" or "Empire Strikes Back" on it, it's a custom cardback.
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: Morgbug on November 26, 2005, 01:34 AM
Oh and just to clear up a small point, Tri-Logos only have the ROTJ logo on them, if you see a Tri-Logo card with "A New Hope" or "Empire Strikes Back" on it, it's a custom cardback.

 :o

I did not know that, thank you.
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: CorranHorn on November 26, 2005, 02:02 AM
Oh and just to clear up a small point, Tri-Logos only have the ROTJ logo on them, if you see a Tri-Logo card with "A New Hope" or "Empire Strikes Back" on it, it's a custom cardback.

 :o

I did not know that, thank you.

No sweat, sadly there are unscrupulous ******** out there who would take advantage of people using a custom cardback that was meant for personal use...
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 26, 2005, 10:09 AM
Some great info there guys, thanks.   8)

I can totally understand your interest to collect the Trilogo cards for their "uniqueness".  Sure, it would likely be easier and cheaper to collect the US cards, but it's always fun to do something a little different.  That's why I want to collect only Canadian carded figures - just a little different than the "norm".
Title: Re: Where to next?
Post by: Andy_R on November 26, 2005, 02:11 PM
Some more things to add about tri-logos. 
Not every figure was released on a tri-logo card.  The four Cantina creatures as well as one or two others (Death Squad Commander I think) were never found on tri-logos.
The two rarest tri-logo figures are General Madine and Jawa.  No other figure comes close to their rarity.  Emperor's Royal Guard is somewhat hard to find, but nothing compared to Madine and Jawa. 

Also, tri-logos were released in the U.S.  I had many as a kid. 

A few years ago, Tom Derby put together a complete set of C9+ tri-logos.
I believe he was asking $30,000. 

Good luck,
Andy