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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Revenge of the Sith => Topic started by: Jeff on March 26, 2005, 12:38 AM
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Yep...
RotS Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85778)
No pictures yet, but it's another re-hash of the same ship with new colors... :-\
Jeff
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I think it's cool they're doing one for him. He's my favorite alien from the PT.
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As long as we don't get Mace's pimp-purple one from Thursday's Clone Wars, I'm ok, but they're pushing it with this.
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I thought they would go for Saesee Tiin's fighter if anything. All of the backstory on him has always been about what a great pilot he is. I guess he doesn't do much piloting in ROTS.
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What color is Plo's ship? Is it in the CW cartoon?
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According to these scans of ROTS game cards (http://img207.exs.cx/img207/3789/rotscards15et5ix.jpg), it looks as if Plo Koon enjoys "old school" fighters. If this is correct, his ship (toy) should be more in line with the AOTC offerings. We'll have to see I guess.
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Another pic (http://img225.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img225&image=image01spo5b7ju.jpg) of the game cards, slightly larger.
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Oh, so instead of yet another Ep3 Jedi Starfighter repaint for this one, we get a repaint of a 3-yr old Ep2 Jedi Starfighter for Plo's ship?
In fact, it looks a LOT like the piant job from Anakin's Clone Wars Starfighter slapped onto the Ep2 Starfighter...
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/compare.jpg)
::)
Jeff
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Yeah, that's what I noticed too. Plo Koon is one of my favorite "new" characters from the PT, and probably my favorite alien Jedi, but I don't see this ship joining my collection. I have limited space for ships the way it is, and if its just an AOTC repaint I think I'll pass.
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To me, this SMACKS of GL throwing Hasbro a "bone" as it were and putting in a couple of the old-school Delta-7 Aethersprite Jedi Starfighters so Hasbro could simply re-release the AOTC toy with different paint ops.
Personally, I'll be okay with it if they continue to balance re-paints/re-releases with new vehicles - looking at the cards - I want a V-Wing even more now!
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Yeah, there is a cut scene from the newest animated CW series. It had Plo talking to Anakin. Plo says "Anakin I really love your Jedi Starfighter design. It's way wicked badass!!!" Anakin replies "Hey Plo you can have it if you want it man. I just saw the newest Jedi Starfighter designs and they ROCK!!! Kenobi and I are going to get them since he's on the council and all." Plo excitedly says " You are da man!" Anakin says "I know. Don't you ever forget it. I...am...the...man! (flexes his muscles underneath his Jedi cloak as Plo rolls his eyes under his mas)."
Yeah, not much to do at work today.
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This is a movie question really but...
Is Plo Koon's starfighter the one that Bail Organa uses to track down Yoda and Obi-Wan?
I think I recall that somewhere Bail Organa gets the tracking beacon from a Jedi Starfighter and uses that beacon to hook up with Obi-Wan and Yoda.
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I know this is the wrong answer ;), but I actually like it.
Of course story-wise it doesn't make much sense for Plo to copy Ani's paintjob....
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At least the ship is in the movie. If you check out the "Making of" book addition that was posted on Hyperspace, it mentions the location and reason for the ship being in the movie. It actually makes sense.
Much more than forcing the toy out, at least.
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The supplement doesn't necessarily explain why Plo Koon's still flying around in one of the older models though - or why it has a design similar to Anakin's.
Perhaps the rest of the book will....
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Can you post a link to this article?
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Linky (Hyperspace) (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/member/about/news/news20050328.html)
I actually don't mind it being an older vehicle, since it shows that the older starships are still in use. One of my big pet peeves about the PT is the random ship evolution with little reuse of designs from earlier episodes. It’s just jarring to me.
From a story standpoint, if not for the CW cartoons, I'd say he has been off on distant campaigns long enough to not have received an upgraded fighter yet.
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Hasbro today gives as an update on the Plo Koon Starfighter (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/newsID.22CE5B8B-D56F-E112-45A14C237802EC07/page.news/dn/default.cfm).
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ah I as hoping it would be the new style but I like plo Koon so I'll get it once it hits clearance, providing it shows up here. ???
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How many times am I going to have to put up a Hasbro quote? Either they say something insulting to collectors or write such cringe-worthy drivel, that I feel it necessary to begin cataloging the fun:
"How do you make a Jedi warrior even more powerful? Stick him in this awesome starfighter, that's how"
It's time to review some of the other hits from Hasbro's March and early April updates:
"Recreate the awesome intergalactic dogfights of Revenge of the Sith with action features..."
"This awesome Clone Trooper action figure..."
"...totally collectible, totally tiny and totally awesome."
"This awesome next wave of deluxe figures from the Action Assortment features awesome detailing"
"Display and battle your ATTACKTIX figures with the awesome ATTACKTIX Battle Case!"
"Awesome ATTACKTIX action straight from Revenge of the Sith!"
"Each blaster in this awesome assortment is styled to exactly resemble its model in the movie..."
"Awesome feature lets you really feel the Force: turn it on and it vibrates ..."
"With fun styling, cool accessories, and awesome battle features..."
"Overpower Anakin’s opponents with awesome lightsaber attack action!"
"Cool action figures with amazing detail and awesome action features or working accessories!"
I've noticed a push lately to change it up in new, clever ways:
"he shows up with this wicked starfighter..."
"Featuring exciting battle attack action, hyper articulation or working accessories..."
Hyper? That's fantastic. Wicked? A little too Jimmy Fallon. Can't wait to see some more updates, keep 'em rolling, Big H!
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The supplement doesn't necessarily explain why Plo Koon's still flying around in one of the older models though - or why it has a design similar to Anakin's.
Perhaps the rest of the book will....
Perhaps Plo, like Han Solo, tends to stick with a particular vehicle/model when he finds one that suites him. Besides, who knows what kinds of interior, electrical and mechanical modifications good `ol Plo has made to this older ship? Like real folk, even some Jedi might not be able to afford that brand new state-of-the-art car, er umm, ship.
As for the paint scheme being just like Anakin's, I'm guessing nothing more than pure lack of imagination.
That being said, I like it! I'll buy this vehicle if/when I find one. I should go buy me a Plo to pilot it while I can easily find him.
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First of all, and this might be a spoiler, the scenes of Plo Koon piloting his starfighter for ROTS were shot inside the newer Jedi Starfighter cockpit (they used the same one for Anakin and Obi-Wan, with different droid heads in place for each actor/character), so this retro-JSF for Koon is obviously one of those post-production decisions made by LFL.
That said, I wonder when we'll see this one pop up on the Hasbro website, in reference to the "bitchin'" 12" Ultimate Villain Anakin/Vader (that I recently detailed my experiences with in the 12 inch forum):
"Comes with AWESOME barefoot action since his boots are so AWESOME they don't ******* fit!"
Damn right I'm still bitter. :-\
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does anyone know if his ship is comin out anytime soon?
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does anyone know if his ship is comin out anytime soon?
(http://images.entertainmentearth.com/AUTOIMAGES/HS85778.jpg)
Still has a July date according to most lists...
Jeff
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Plo Koon Jedi Starfighter - Cancelled? (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS85778)
"June 3 2005: This item is not available at Entertainment Earth. Entertainment Earth has not received any units of this item from Hasbro."
Does this mean it's not coming or just that EE won't be carrying it?
Maybe it's now it's going to be an exclusive someplace else?
Hmmm... :-\
Jeff
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That's kinda weird - perhaps they either
(a) thought it was in bad taste since the only time it shows up in the movie is to get blown to pieces so they cancelled it
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(b) store toy buyers were like "No way" since it is just a repaint of the AOTC Jedi Starfighter toy.
OR (and this one is definitely iffy)
(c) one or perhaps two of the brick and mortar stores bought out the entire production of these and e-tailers like EE are left out in the cold.
I could see TRU grabbing this item as an exclusive 'cause they love to sit on stacks and stacks of vehicles in their stores. The retailer with the most stacks wins! ::)
Seriously though, with display space shrinking and the only thing that really moves with any velocity are: individually carded figures, electronic lightsabers, Darth Vader Voice Changers and Deluxe Figures, I think the retailers may have passed on it 'cause they are phasing out vehicles in their SW displays.
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Even though I did not intend on getting one (something I was actually going to stick to), I think that if the ship is indeed cancelled, it was one of the best decisions that Hasbro and retail have made for the line. I know that will probably invoke some venom from people, but look at it from the best and worst case scenarios where the item is actually released:
BEST CASE: The ship is released and, as I think we can all predict, bombs horribly, because not only is it the third repaint of a ship that has hit clearance twice in the span of two years, it's also using a paint scheme of an EU ship based on that same exact design. Let's not even mention the fact that the Plo Koon figure currently out there won't fit in the cockpit (I've already tried with the AOTC Jedi Starfighter) without serious warping to his "skirt." It sits on shelves and collects dust, leading retail to tell Hasbro that vehicles don't sell and Hasbro not making any more good vehicles and only endless repaints of the X-Wing as TRU exclusives for the next five years.
WORST CASE: The ship is released and nobody can find it because it's the final item in the vehicle assortment, which every retailer already has a stack of sitting on the shelves. It becomes a rare piece and goes for an arm and a leg on Ebay for absolutely no other reason than it is an artificially hyped vehicle in comparatively short supply. Oh, and the Plo Koon doesn't fit in the cockpit, but figures not fitting in cockpits hasn't necessarily stopped Hasbro from putting a toy out in the past now, has it?
If they've cancelled it, I say great, because it stops either of these scenarios from happening. With retail seemingly putting the brakes on as far as vehicles go (just in time for the Wookiee Orthihopter to show up ::) ), if this were released it would either be a really underwhelming Ebay Exclusive or it would be retail poison.
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Plo Koon Jedi Starfighter - Cancelled? (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS85778)
"June 3 2005: This item is not available at Entertainment Earth. Entertainment Earth has not received any units of this item from Hasbro."
Does this mean it's not coming or just that EE won't be carrying it?
Maybe it's now it's going to be an exclusive someplace else?
Well, according to GH's latest QnA, it sounds like the Plo Koon Starfighter got cancelled from EE because Hasbro optioned it to someone as an exclusive. So, it sounds like it's still coming, just not to EE.
Now the question is, which retailer was dumb enough to take a "new" RotS vehicle that is actually a repainted Episode 2 ship as an exclusive? :P
Jeff
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Now the question is, which retailer was dumb enough to take a "new" RotS vehicle that is actually a repainted Episode 2 ship as an exclusive?
That's what I was wondering Jeff. To me, I thought it was good when it first sounded like it was cancelled...or at least not coming to "regular" retail. I really think that ship would have just camped out on the shelves for a good long time. Then again, you never know. I'm personally not really interested in it, but it will be interested to see who "won" the rights to have this as their exclusive.
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I may be one of the few people interested in this.
I didn't start buying ships until the OTC line, so if this did show up in a ROTS box, it would save me trying to someday buy one on eBay.
It's not that I need this particular ship really bad, but it's been fun to buy these medium size ships to create a "fleet" for display. I figure since these ROTS ships aren't windowboxed, I can open them. ;)
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according to RS, target has it as an exclusive item!
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according to RS, target has it as an exclusive item!
I thought you were smarter than that, Target. :(
Now, Target, please don't try to charge $25-30 for it too or I'll be swimming in these at the local stores for months. :-\
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according to RS, target has it as an exclusive item!
I was afraid that was going to happen. When the hell is Target coming to Canada? >:(
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I was afraid that was going to happen. When the hell is Target coming to Canada? >:(
When Canada finally abandons Quebec and joins the USA. ;)
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Is this the same ship from the CW (non-animated) line?
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I was afraid that was going to happen. When the hell is Target coming to Canada? >:(
When Canada finally abandons Quebec and joins the USA. ;)
Whats Quebec? :-X ;)
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Is this the same ship from the CW (non-animated) line?
It is a re-hashed ship (the Episode 2 Jedi Starfighter which has already been released 3 times - Saga Red, KB Exclusive w/Pilot Obi-Wan, and Clone Wars Green) that uses the paint job from the Anakin Clone Wars Ship:
You can see from the comparison picture below that while it is very similar to stuff that has been released before, it actually "new" in that this paint job has never been used on this model ship (but it was used on a different model ship).
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/compare.jpg)
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In a way I am (was?) looking forward to this since I missed the CW Anakin ship and this is a reasonable fascimile.
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It'll probably be $20 unless they pack in an exclusive Plo koon pilot that can actually fit in it.
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It'll probably be $20 unless they pack in an exclusive Plo koon pilot that can actually fit in it.
That's what you'd figure, but with Target's current "let's charge a few bucks more because it's an exclusive" policy (Lava Vader = $13, Clone Trooper = $13), I wouldn't put it past them to hike up the cost a few ($5-10) bucks... :-\
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Jeff's right.
It'll be $25 w/out a figure, $30 with.
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Its going to be overpriced w/o a doubt. They even jacked up the figs w/cup just because the ROTS ones sold well. The original trilogy ones sat around here forever, I bought them all at 2.48/each. And I know yoda/boba/fett will sit for a while at 12.99. One of my Targets has 12 of each, 2 weeks running.
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according to RS, target has it as an exclusive item!
I was afraid that was going to happen. When the hell is Target coming to Canada? >:(
That's it, I'm moving to Canada! ;)
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Forgive my short memory, but has anyone actually seen this on Target's shelves? I reread the thread, but there's no mention of when it was supposed it hit stores, besides the original expected date of July (but that was before it was announced as an exclusive to Target).
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Nope, not out yet. Maybe another month or two, but you definitely haven't missed anything yet Jess... ;)
Considering I just found Obi's Starfighter today, I could use a break before having to track down yet another one of these damned things.
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I can't wait to have my HOLO plo koon in this ship, ::)
gimme a wallet break too pleaz
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I can't wait to have my HOLO plo koon in this ship, ::)
gimme a wallet break too pleaz
Actually the even sadder thing is me buying a TRU Value pack containing Plo Koon and Agen Kolar for three reasons (1) I can put this Agen Kolar in my Jedi Council diorama and get rid of the POTJ Eeth Koth re-issue; (2) it gave me another nice Jedi cloak to put on a figure that ddn't come with one (like Mace Windu or Kit Fisto); and (3) a spare Plo Koon figure to stick with this exclusive when it's released.
I normally buy extra figures that correspond to vehicles so that I can display both the figure AND the vehicle w/the figure loose.
With this purchase, I now realize that I have reached the pinnacle of insanity - tracking down extra figures to pilot vehicles I already have MULTIPLE releases of. Why would I display this Jedi Starfighter any more than I would display the stable of AOTC/Clone Wars ones?
I'm sorry, I'll shut up now and go play my favorite game - Lemmings.
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Here's the packaged form:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/Vehicles/DSC08465.jpg)
This Target exclusive ship doesn't appear to include a figure, so any guesses on price?
$25? $30? :-\
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I'd say $35. It's a repaint of a $20 ship being sold at Target. :-\
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I'd say $35. It's a repaint of a $20 ship being sold at Target. :-\
$35 is asking too much, if it were a Kmart exclusive then maybe, but Target is nice about their pricing. I guess $24.99 :-X
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It doesn't even look like it comes with stickers. Where is the Republic/Imperial logo in the picture? ???
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It doesn't even look like it comes with stickers. Where is the Republic/Imperial logo in the picture?
Well, if it doesn't come with stickers, then we're **** out of luck, since Hasbro will refuse to send them out. They can't replace missing pieces from exclusive items, you know, since retail contracts forbid it. ::)
(if you don't know what I'm talking about, check out the Obi-Wan's Blue Jedi Starfighter thread where Hasbro shows how lazy they are to me)
As for pricing, here's what I'm thinking (in order of reality to conspiracy):
-$24.99 (at least) to $29.99 (at most)
-Each store will only get three ships in one shipment
-In order to ensure that everyone has an equal chance for the collectible toy, Target employees will not be able to check the stock room for any unique items. This is because they won't ever actually make it in the stock room, and will be sold off the back of the truck as soon as they arrive to the Ebay folks. Each Ebayer will only be allowed to buy one though, so they'll have an equal chance of making money on the secondary market, so it all works out. :P
That said, I can't believe I'm going to be buying this thing, as it will make my third JSF of that style (not counting Anakin's), and eighth JSF overall from the prequels. It's times like these that my "If it's in the movies, I'll buy it" credo I established really bites me in the ass. :)
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That said, I can't believe I'm going to be buying this thing, as it will make my third JSF of that style (not counting Anakin's), and eighth JSF overall from the prequels. It's times like these that my "If it's in the movies, I'll buy it" credo I established really bites me in the ass. :)
It's times like these my "Buy two of everything, one to keep MIMB/MOMC and one to open" REALLY bites mee in the ass ;D
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I'm a sucker for vehicles, even ones that Ihave 6 or 7 of with different paint schemes already. I guess that makes me as smart as a monkey :P
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It does look like a fun ship to own really. I won't buy it becuase there are too many other things I want that are going to hurt my wallet but it's not to bad really. It was kind of neat scene in the film...Plo's ship getting it that is.
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I was able to get one of these earlier this morning (thank you again to Jeff for the DCPI/DPCI numbers; I now owe you a whole six-pack) and it's not that bad. I just wanted to give a little rundown on some of the things that everyone has been unclear on about the ship, since I have it open.
First of all, the label sheet. The sheet included is from either the 2002 Saga Obi-Wan JSF or the 2003 Clone Wars JSF (I don't know which, but the date still reads 2002 on the label sheet with a part number that does not match the toy's part number). This means that the worries about the Republic logo on the left wing being omitted are unfounded, and you can apply the proper labels to an exclusive Jedi Starfighter and not have to worry about Hasbro avoiding the issue!
Anyhoo...it's the same ship as in 2002 and 2003, but in a new color (like Anakin's JSF from the Clone Wars). The astromech is blue with silver highlights, and everything works the same as before. The paint scheme looks pretty cool on the ship, especially on the sides of the cockpit. Overall, if you like ships that actually appeared on screen and like the AOTC-era JSFs (I do and I do), you'll want to give this one a look. It's worth the 20 bucks I paid for it.
Now, a question: My repeated attempts to get Plo Koon to sit in his JSF are hitting walls due to the skirt piece being made of such a thick plastic/rubber thing. I'm going to be buying a second Plo Koon to fit in the cockpit, but I was curious if anyone had any suggestions that a non-customizing goof like me could use to get Plo to sit down?
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Was there a soft-goods Plo included in any of the TRU Jedi three packs? I'm blanking on my crappy TRU exclusives history at the moment.
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Yep… that'll work nicely
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I know it's a cheap repaint, but I like it.
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Was there a soft-goods Plo included in any of the TRU Jedi three packs? I'm blanking on my crappy TRU exclusives history at the moment.
There was one in one of those Jedi Council sets, but you're assuming I actually gave TRU and Hasbro money for those pieces of garbage. ;)
I'm just curious if Captain Shaky Hands (me) can hold a knife steady enough to trim or loosen the skirt on the ROTS version so he will sit down. ???
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Actually the Plo Koon in the Jedi Council can't really sit well either.
I got my opener Plo Koon fighter today and I took the extra ROTS Plo Koon and Lieutenant Shaky Hands (me) cut off his skirt and now he sits GREAT in the fighter.
So if Lieutenant Shaky Hands can do it, I'm sure you can to D.P.! ;D
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The word on the street is that these will be pleantyfull. Has anyone who's found them seen the production number on the shipping case?
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This give you an idea Anton? My store where I got mine received 200. After I bought mine the clerk said "OOHHH the number left available will now be 189"!!(almost mocking me for asking him for one ::))
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200? If they're going to be that plentiful, I may wait until the inevitable clearance. Plo's my favorite Jedi, so it'd be nice to have his ride. For cheap.
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This give you an idea Anton? My store where I got mine received 200. After I bought mine the clerk said "OOHHH the number left available will now be 189"!!(almost mocking me for asking him for one ::))
Again, making little sense of exclusive production. Lots of Starfighters that few want, and few clones that lots want. ???