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Collectibles => The Black Series 6" Figures => Topic started by: Jeff on February 9, 2017, 10:42 AM
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Great news for anyone that was hoping for the Unleashed line to make a come-back some day... from io9 (http://io9.gizmodo.com/an-exclusive-look-at-some-of-the-new-toys-celebrating-s-1792170393):
"Later this year, alongside the waves of merchandise based on The Last Jedi, there’ll be even more 40th-anniversary toys. The 6-inch Black Series figures will be getting their own line of figurines called the “Centerpiece” range. If you remember the old “Star Wars Unleashed” toys from the early 2000s, they’re a lot like that: static figurines of characters in dynamic poses on special stands, made to look like recreations of key moments from films across the saga.
There’s one key difference with these new ones. though—the lavish new scenery bases will include light and sound effects to make each figurine even more of a display piece. The line will kick off with a new version of Luke in his pilot gear from Empire Strikes Back, and each figure will sell for $50."
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I always liked the Unleashed stuff, but $50 seems a bit too steep.
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$50! Seriously? Sounds like the ole waiting for clearance should do just fine.
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Yeah, the $50 price makes you wonder what the cost would have been without the lights/sound effects.
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The recent survey asked if we'd like pack-ins, displays, etc. Here it is...
At least it's in something I don't care about.
I'm sure we'll hear more in a few days (I'm assuming Toy Fair is this weekend).
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I'm sure we'll hear more in a few days (I'm assuming Toy Fair is this weekend).
Hasbro Entertainment Brand Preview Event is Saturday, Feb 18th. ;)
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I'm sure we'll hear more in a few days (I'm assuming Toy Fair is this weekend).
Hasbro Entertainment Brand Preview Event is Saturday, Feb 18th. ;)
Thanks, Jeff. I knew it was around Valentine's Day so it would be either this week or next. I just figured it was this weekend since they were giving a sneak-peek already.
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And here I was working on where on my shelves I would be putting the Unleashed segment of my collection....
It's kind of curious to see the 6" Black Series go in this direction. Granted, I think that part of the line will continue on it's own because it's been reasonably successful. But I had pretty much resigned myself to the fact that Unleashed probably was never going to come back about 10 year ago. Now it is (albeit with a new name), and they're charging MORE?!?! The one piece looks pretty cool. But that price point is tough to get enthusiastic about.
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I'll admit that these look cool, but for $50 I can also get a SH Figuarts or MAFEX figure imported from Japan, which look just as good and are poseable. So yeah, pass on these.
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Odd how we're seeing some nostalgia for the mid 2000's here in these 'new' formats. Unleashed never did it for me. I have a few. Obi-Wan. Padme. But this seems WAY over the top with the price. I'll be skipping on these though I'd probably buy a Jawa version. :)
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Hasbro is at this point just trolling a segment I think. I kinda find it funny.
I think the base looks neat and the figure is ****. The unleashed stuff and 02 line sucked and didn't do well so I'm not expecting much here. I'm I like the base though. The price is absurd. I'd say there is more cost in design and mold tooling than the sounds and lights but that's just me. If it had a good figure with it I can see $50, but not a pvc statue.
Either way I wasn't gonna buy it but this in 3.75" might have had me for the base, actually. It'd be cheaper in theory and while I'd have waited for a sale I still might've had some interest.
I was just looking at the one Unleashed thing I still have in a box pondering selling it. Hell I should sell the storm trooper too. Those are kind of a waste to own at this point.
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Hasbro is at this point just trolling a segment I think.
I think it's just the latest attempt to revive the large scale, pre-posed figure idea.
In the late '90s they were called "Epic Force". Then in the '00s, they were called "Star Wars Unleashed". Now in the '10s decade, it's time for "Black Series Centerpiece".
"All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again."
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Wow, that's a hard pass. Don't a dozen other companies already do statues?
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The press pic looks pretty cool, and I did like the original Unleashed line (when they were $15), but I can't see me picking these up at $50. If it was an actual Black Series figure, and not just a statue I might consider it more. Sort of seems like the same area as their recent foray into the prop area in Black Series and Marvel Legends. Testing the waters of offering a low cost version of typically high end product areas.
When I first glanced over the press release, I thought they were maybe venturing back into 12" figures, since they started that in the Marvel line last year, and those were originally priced at $50. I might be more interested in that case. With these, a likely pass for me as well, unless they get to a Han or Chewie, or a Rey for my daughter. Or if they start dropping in price like those Legends did (I got the Spidey for $20 and Cap for $10 at Christmas time).
It is funny how their press release doesn't mention their "normal" lines, like 3 3/4", Black Series, etc. I know we will likely see more at Toy Fair, but it gets people in more of a tizzy every time they announce more lines that aren't SA 3 3/4".
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If it was an actual Black Series figure, and not just a statue I might consider it more.
Exactly! I don't get why they didn't just juice up the kind of environment pieces we got with the Kmart or SDCC sets. How are these things even related to the existing 6" line? i guess because you can pose them on the bases or something?
Expensive and space-intensive are the double whammy for me. And no articulation is strike three. I can't see wanting these in my collection.
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When I first glanced over the press release, I thought they were maybe venturing back into 12" figures, since they started that in the Marvel line last year, and those were originally priced at $50. I might be more interested in that case.
I think I read somewhere recently that that line is dead due to low sales. Plus Sideshow might have the 12" license for SA figures, I'm not sure.
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They actually just revealed a Thor and Hulk for this year, so it's continuing. Blows my mind, because they did not move here.
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I'm actually interested in picking up a few of those MArvel figures, but can't seem to find them at much of a discount. Walmart had them down to $35 last time I checked, but I'd be looking for $20ish or less as they are a noticeable downgrade from something like Sideshow. I just have one Marvel 12" figure shelf and its a mix of Sideshow and Icons - I do think they are an upgrade from the Icons stuff of years past.
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Yeah $35 is the lowest I've seen them too. I think the Spidey is pretty cool, the others ok. The Hulk looks good. As far as the SW figs, I was expecting to see the two pack/creature/vehicle segment come back (i.e. Scout Trooper and Speeder Bike). I guess those really didn't do well because they've had the cover to try with two movies now.
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I sort of thought (and was hoping), we would see more of the deluxe type stuff as well. I really like the Taun Taun and Wampa sets, and had hoped we would see more of those types of things. The big TIE sure seemed to be a flop, but mid-sized stuff would be cool. I'd love to see Luke's Landspeeder, possibly a Dewback, Probe Droid, a Falcon cockpit, or even more environmental type stuff.
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I thought I heard somewhere that Luke's Landspeeder was on the way. A Dewback would be awesome and another way to get their favorite Sandtrooper in the mix again. Jabba would be cool in this scale as well.
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Jabba would be cool in this scale as well.
Hasbro agrees! ;D
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Jabba would be cool in this scale as well.
Hasbro agrees! ;D
So, I completely spaced that one. That about sums up how my week is going. ;)
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Looks like the second piece in this line will be Vader storming a rebel ship... not sure if it's supposed to be ANH Tantive or the end of Rogue One.
These are pretty neat and I can see what they're going for here (it's essentially a playset/diorama piece for your 6" Black Series), but that $50 price is going to keep so many people away.
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Kind of neat, but another example where price and space will likely keep me away.
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I get the concept a bit more after seeing how Hasbro intends to integrate the Centerpiece collection with existing 6" Black Series figures. I definitely like the Darth Vader in the hatchway of the Tantive IV.
But it also gets me wondering if we're going to get figures like Rebel Fleet Troopers or Hoth Rebel Troopers to integrate into pieces like this?
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Toy Fair Press Pics - click on the thumbnails for a better look:
(https://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2017/Hasbro/Star_Wars/Black_Series_Centerpiece/tn_hasbro_starwars_blackseries_6in_certerpiece_ESB_luke.jpg) (https://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?https://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2017/Hasbro/Star_Wars/Black_Series_Centerpiece/hasbro_starwars_blackseries_6in_certerpiece_ESB_luke.jpg) (https://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2017/Hasbro/Star_Wars/Black_Series_Centerpiece/tn_hasbro_starwars_blackseries_centerpiece_02_darthvader_01.jpg) (https://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?https://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2017/Hasbro/Star_Wars/Black_Series_Centerpiece/hasbro_starwars_blackseries_centerpiece_02_darthvader_01.jpg)
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I gotta say, the centerpiece line isn't my cup of tea really but the Vader one, I could see getting that and using Bandai Kit figures with it as that's a gorgeous looking piece of work. I may buy that.
Sooooo I guess in a way they know how to appeal to even the most staunch 3.75"SA collectors. :x
I like that and I can see better figures in it.
The Hoth one I'm curious to see a 3.75" figure near that foot too. Could make a cool dio for smaller figures as that foot isn't 6" scaled by far.
These have potentially grown on me. The light effects though, they really help sell them. I'd not get the Hoth set at full price but the Vader one I would consider.
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We don't do a lot of opinion pieces here at JD, but hey, we did one... or I did anyway.
https://www.jedidefender.com/index.php?id=2345
It sums up what we're discussing here mostly, I believe, but I think it's something the broader Star Wars collecting audience is turning its nose up at, maybe a tad too quickly? For my $, and at $50 a pop it's a lot of my $, I think these at least have potential to work for OTHER scales as well as they are ultimately designed for 6" scale... Stick with me on this.
In the past several years I've found other scaled "things" actually look pretty damn good with 3.75" figures running around in them... Various displays and such, but even cargo boxes and gear made for larger figures can find a home in a 3.75" diorama. So why can't a 6" Diorama look good with 3.75" figures in it? That Vader display, it could be really any ship... It's a basic grey/gunmetal color, very simplistic styling... Nothing to say some 3.75" Stormies rushing through a larger blast door isn't as possible as Vader leading troops through a 6" man-door.
Same on the Hoth set, and maybe even more so. That AT-AT foot isn't scaled to 6" figures. If it were, it'd be significantly larger than it appears to be. The foot of an AT-AT covers a Snowspeeder... but through some 3.75" Rebel Troopers rushing over it? Suddenly it looks a hell of a lot cooler to me. Fill the "foot prints" with a chunk of debris (or even leave them empty, it's just a snow blob) and that set may work pretty nice too.
The light effect on the ship hallway looks really well done, the detail on both looks impressive... $50 sucks, but similar pricing sucked for the Lars Homestead too. I'm not expecting these to be a great success, but I am looking at them as something I can see displaying 3.75" figures around, and not the instant throw-away I'm seeing around the collecting world.
Hell I really could see the Vader one for my Bandai kit figures too, I like it a lot. But I seriously think a cargo hold door being blasted open by 3.75" Stormies would look neat there. Don't even need Vader, just a Stormtrooper with a torch who cut it open and a bunch more to bust through.
The hobby isn't wow'ing me these days, but there are still things I see that appeal to my collecting senses.
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Well said. Maybe if it does well it will lead to 3.75" environment pieces.
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I'm not banking on that personally but this is in the realm of what people like for displaying. Not as versatile of course, but it works I think.
It's funny. When 6" rumors began, then came to fruition, I was at the head of the pack of people who basically hates the idea... I want 3.75" stuff only, and articulated. But at the same time, not everything is doom and gloom... this maybe isn't perfect, or intended for the scale I like, but I can see the use for it too. I'll take what I can get with a smile. It's not like I have much else to spend $ on right now anyway.
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I don't think the statues are removable though?
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I heard they have pegged feet just like the old Unleashed stuff. I don't know if that means you can swap out an actual 6" figure for the statue, but probably allows for some kinds of customization.
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It's an interesting take on things, Jesse. And the notion of being able to use these environments for 3.75" figures is something that cross my mind, too. Personally, I think I would prefer sets like these without things like the battle damage and blast marks. But I think that's the difference between what collectors want and the type of dynamic setting that Hasbro marketing thinks will sell to a broader audience.
The kicker really is the price. At $50 per set, this is a little bit of an investment. But looking at the pricing of 3rd party stuff that's been gaining traction lately, I may have to adjust my own expectations regarding pricing.
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In a who cares about price and space world I'd love to own these. I like how they look. I see Jesse's point on using them as environments for the 4" stuff as well.
But that is still a stretch to make me feel good about this being a choice Hasbro made of a line to produce. I'd have like to see them go a different route and I'm all in on the 6" stuff.
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Jesse's points are a nice silver lining, but then you think about what Hasbro could have done at the $50 price point if they actually tried to create an environment like this for 3.75" figures. You figure the 6" "Unleashed" figure is $15 on its own, so another $15 of design towards a 3.75" environment would be nearly twice as cool as what we're getting with the Centerpiece environment. Or stick in a repacked 5POA Stormtrooper and squeeze out a few more design enhancements for the $50.
I don't think I'll buy this at $50 for an environment, but would consider it if it was marked down enough.
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I'll be skipping this line entirely.
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I can definitely see the $50 pricepoint argument... for me, $'s everyone's own individual battle and it either works for you, or it doesn't. Perceived Value was a basic thing I had drilled into my head throughout school, and how it varies so greatly from person to person. I've cited it before, and gladly will again, that I've plunked some serious coin down for things I like like Acid Rain toys and stuff... I mean a LOT of $, and sometimes I haven't hesitated because what it is appeals to me so much. $30/figure (roughly, a lil less) is a tough pill to swallow and I usually buy in 3s now when I do my initial pre-ordering with EE.
Looking at these, I get it that $50 is absurd for some, and for me it kind of is too. I haven't 100% decided If I'd buy one, both, or none at full price. I think, if I do, I'll get the Vader one full price because I easily can see my Bandai Kit figures working with it too, but I could just as easily see myself waiting for sales/clearance because that price scares me a bit too. It doesn't really move, or have much "play" to it at all. It's really just a "glorified stand" (I should trademark that like Pawlus did "different enough to make you mad").
I like that it lights up and the effect appears to be well done. I like the detailing (screws/rivets detailed into the sculpt, etc.). And again I'd say compare this to that Lars Homestead and it's not all that different in terms of what you ultimately get with it. It's also not an "iconic" scene from any of the movies though, and more just some imaginary mega-stand.
At the same time, and this is more to the hypothetical debate, yes you could've would've should've gotten something cooler for 4" but you're not going to... not now anyway. But I get that POV too, Dave. I just am taking the thought that life handed me lemons, and I'm going to make some kind of 4" scaled Lemonade from it I guess. I can look at the ENTIRE 6" line that way (that it sucks and I want 4" scaled stuff) but that's not likely to change. Not this year anyway. Maybe not ever. So these are there, and these may work for me... in some capacity at least.
But again the Perceived Value argument, yeah, sure anything hits a price point low enough and it's easier to look past the hatred. And I'm there too. Right now I'm not sure if I'll need a discount to buy one of these or not though. I am still debating. But I could see at least the Vader one appealing to me.
Re: them coming off the base, from the looks of it in pictures they're separate pieces, at the very least. Whether they're intended to come off the base or not, I'm not sure, but I think they certainly CAN come off the base with persuasion. :)
I really can't say I'm arguing for you guys to buy them, or not, as I really hate 6" stuff too and all that. And I don't know what I'll pay for one of these either. I appreciate you guys reading it though, and giving some feedback and personal thoughts in return. It's a hell of a lot more fun than watching everyone just say they hate everything and F Hasbro and F the hobby and stuff. Why be here at all then, ya know? Gotta find fun somewhere, even if Hasbro's not looking at you as particularly important right now. I know they're not looking at me that way, at least. :-\
I'm still finding fun though, every year.
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There is a lot of Hasbro-hate right now...mostly on other sites. It's mind boggling. And some of the same complainers use the derogatory names toward Hasbro and yet say I don't collect their stuff anymore and X Company has way better product. So why bother commenting at all? Just be happy to collect the lines and brands you do and if one company doesn't offer it, move on. Life is too short to get upset about toys.
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Seems like the only value in some people's hobby is in their hatred of it. I agree completely, if you hate it so much, quit. Some sites are invested in perpetuating a brand, so their 'anger' is fake AF, while other people are genuinely put out by X Y or Z but yet stoke this juvenile beef with Hasbro. The hobby is so different on so many levels. I think we'd all like to go back to the days when we walked in a store and there were mountains of stuff but the reality is the collector market has been segmented so heavily by imports, scales and choices that Hasbro SW is never going to be what it was. Bums me out but I enjoy what we get and look forward to more.
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I enjoy what we get and look forward to more.
Amen. I wish more people could look at it that way. Nothing wrong with wanting other things in a perfect world, but if someone can't basically feel as you stated above then maybe getting out of the hobby is the best bet for their psyche.
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Totally agree. There are some out there that feel entitled, that Hasbro owes them for collecting since (enter year here). Do I wish we'd get figures like Sim Aloo or the Tonnika Sisters? Sure. But I'm not going to fret about it.
Hasbro's a company and if they feel a shift in scales is to their benefit, who's to blame them for trying something new? Granted, we've seen Hasbro try things that are questionable but it's their line to do with as they please. But it seems to be working for them. It seems to have brought in fresh blood into collecting. And as Darby put it (better than me), is it worth the headache to complain about something you don't like. Move on... and be better for it.
6" inch figures are nice and I've been trying to limit my purchases to mains, bounty hunters, and troopers. I look at them as companion pieces and not a complete replacement of the 3.75" line. It's mainly a space issue and the fact that I own these figures already that I don't go all in.
The only sad thing is I miss doing the wishlists at here. Those were always fun to do. To limit my wants to ten and then see what others would like to see. I suppose if we continue doing it, we might have to do each movie/cartoon/etc, but in each scale or just 6".
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I enjoy what we get and look forward to more.
Amen. I wish more people could look at it that way. Nothing wrong with wanting other things in a perfect world, but if someone can't basically feel as you stated above then maybe getting out of the hobby is the best bet for their psyche.
Agreed. And don't get me wrong here, I'm not discouraging disliking stuff too... but good god there has to be something you're happy about or why be involved? I'll reiterate that I love 3.75" SA stuff, hate 6" anything (I appreciate it for what it is, but hate any budget going to it), and I've largely refused to budge on that. I have 3 figures from Hasbro, one given to me, one for like $5, and Bossk cuz Bossk is Bossk. I hate it.
I've had the luxury of some interesting insight into the manufacturing end of things... I don't think Hasbro's quite as dumb as folks make them out to be, regardless of whether that fits my wishful thinking or not. Things in China are pretty tough these days.
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In all honesty, I don't think I would buy these even at the $20 price point, so $50 puts them so far outside my consideration factor. They take up too much space, they're not poseable, the cost. Its just not for me and I don't really see the appeal being there for the vast majority of other collectors. It seems like there's more obvious choices out there if they want to expand the 6" line - a Dewback and Sandtrooper, small scale figures, etc.
That all said, I don't hate Hasbro for making these. They're not forcing you to buy it, so if you don't like just pretend it doesn't exist. I don't get why an offering that you don't like would make you upset. Sure, they could have devoted the resources that went into making this into something you like even more, but they also could have dedicated those resources to electronic Chutes & Ladders or Trolls action figures. If you don't like it, just skip it and move on to stuff you do like.
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Having had a little time to read everyone's feedback, and look at these myself? I find two points where I think the Centerpiece line could be a better offering for collectors:
-PRICE: Get these sets down to $40 and I think you would have more takers.
-THE FIGURE: I get that Hasbro is trying to make a literal CENTERPIECE for their 6" Black Series line. Integrating existing 6" Black Series figures into the scene makes it that much more dynamic. But what about the figure in the Centerpiece set? It's a veritable statue, not a figure. That lack of any articulation for these versions of Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader makes these sets seem a little too static, and not in keeping with what the 6" Black Series figures can do in terms of articulation. In that regard I see the figure component of these sets as a failure.
I get the sense that Hasbro may have gone down this road because there may be concerns about having some diversity in the offerings of the 6" figure line beyond basic figures and multipacks. They had to see how so many people played the waiting/clearance game on the First Order TIE Fighter. Does Hasbro have concerns about the viability of a vehicle program in this scale? Are more beasts or speeders seen as a challenge?
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Posted these earlier today:
Darth Vader (A New Hope)
Target DPCI: 087-06-9276
MSRP: $49.99
STREET DATE: TBA
Luke Skywalker (Hoth)
Target DPCI: 087-06-9277
MSRP: $49.99
STREET DATE: TBA
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I can see the dust bunnies already forming an orderly line waiting for these to hit the pegs...
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I wonder if these will even make it to stores? Every Target around here is clogged with 6 inch Jyns, Cassians, and non-action figure items. The 40th anniversary endcap is just sad, and the rumor is that the DCPI for Black Series stuff is so messed up that the pipeline is filled with cases of Finns and Jyns that will never sell.
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I wonder if these will even make it to stores? Every Target around here is clogged with 6 inch Jyns, Cassians, and non-action figure items. The 40th anniversary endcap is just sad, and the rumor is that the DCPI for Black Series stuff is so messed up that the pipeline is filled with cases of Finns and Jyns that will never sell.
Target is going to clearance and discontinue some existing DPCIs for the 6" line. Hopefully that will clear the way for the new stuff for Sept.
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Sorry to derail but any chance you have the Target POP! Vader with Tie DPCI, Jayson?
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I wonder if these will even make it to stores? Every Target around here is clogged with 6 inch Jyns, Cassians, and non-action figure items. The 40th anniversary endcap is just sad, and the rumor is that the DCPI for Black Series stuff is so messed up that the pipeline is filled with cases of Finns and Jyns that will never sell.
Target is going to clearance and discontinue some existing DPCIs for the 6" line. Hopefully that will clear the way for the new stuff for Sept.
I tried running the 40AC 6" figure DPCI on Brickseek the other day, and NOTHING came back in my area. I wonder if Target is changing that DPCI, or if they're hip to Brickseek now?
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Sorry to derail but any chance you have the Target POP! Vader with Tie DPCI, Jayson?
323-01-0569
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Thanks
And that means it's on the back wall of electronics. Good to know
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I can see the dust bunnies already forming an orderly line waiting for these to hit the pegs...
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!
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Star Wars Luke Skywalker The Black Series Centerpiece (https://www.target.com/p/star-wars-luke-skywalker-the-black-series-centerpiece/-/A-52159088?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=google_pla_df&CPNG=PLA_Toys+Shopping&adgroup=SC_Toys&LID=700000001170770pgs&network=g&device=c&location=1022365&gclid=Cj0KCQiAg4jSBRCsARIsAB9ooauQP3ukHQ9DSgUvXNLY6v0Y1bTB-gDQ7ZnRzkGKEOb5jVzmxhq6qAUaAqhkEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) - $20.98 CLEARANCE
Star Wars Darth Vader The Black Series Centerpiece (https://www.target.com/p/star-wars-darth-vader-the-black-series-centerpiece/-/A-52159002?lnk=rec|adaptpdph3_573_c|theme_recs|adaptpdph3_573_c|52159002|0) - $27.19 CLEARANCE
I had already picked up Vader on clearance at Walmart. But the Target clearance for the Centerpiece edition Luke was too good to pass up. And I'm really beginning to like this in store pickup option. Especially when I only buy a single item and I can save on shipping costs!
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These are $15 in Target stores
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These are $15 in Target stores
Those are actually Target.com clearance prices. I wasn't able to find any of the Lukes in stock in my area. So that online clearance price worked for me.
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Brickseek showed a bunch of stuff on sale at my local Target but when I went there everything was still full price.
Edit: went back and they had just put clearance tags on everything, $15 is a great price for these!
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http://www.galactichunter.com/gh/story/toy-fair-gallery-hasbro-star-wars-black-series-centerpiece-kylo-ren
Almost forgot that there was even some Centerpiece news from NYTF...
Linking to Adam's pic of the Kylo Ren Stopping Blaster Bolt scene.
Looks like something that'll maybe translate ok to 3.75" again if not for the footprints in the sand. If those are ignorable or fillable and I can get the piece for uber clearance, I think it'd look slick for Jakku Jedha or Tatooine for my 3.75" figures.
Hey, I'm easy.
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Surprised they're going forward with this given the performance of the first two. Probably too far along to pull up on it now; I'm interested to see how this and the 6 inch Dewback are presented in April. Will they get any push at all? Drifting here, but also the Class A / Beast assortment - is this a different SKU? Will anyone order these?
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Cool to finally see pics of this thing. I guess they are just planning to send out solid cases. I wold love to see them just drop the statues and sell the environment sets by themselves, cheaper.
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http://www.galactichunter.com/gh/story/toy-fair-gallery-hasbro-star-wars-black-series-centerpiece-kylo-ren
Almost forgot that there was even some Centerpiece news from NYTF...
Linking to Adam's pic of the Kylo Ren Stopping Blaster Bolt scene.
Looks like something that'll maybe translate ok to 3.75" again if not for the footprints in the sand. If those are ignorable or fillable and I can get the piece for uber clearance, I think it'd look slick for Jakku Jedha or Tatooine for my 3.75" figures.
Hey, I'm easy.
It looks cool, but not great. The scene that this piece was inspired by was good, but again... not great. And I think that I will just continue to have a difference of opinion with Adam Pawlus about what makes a piece "Perfect". And I am not prepared to gush over this piece to the extent that he did.
The Black Series Centerpiece line clearly has some drawbacks. A figure that's not articulated clearly has less appeal than a standard 6" TBS figure. It's like the Unleashed line 2.0, but now more expensive. Hasbro should seriously consider lowering the MSRP for this sku to $39.99. Because the previous offerings sat at their $49.99 and didn't start seriously moving until the clearances began.
HASBRO: learn from your mistakes. Articulate the figure. Lower the price.
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I just think this is an area where Hasbro shouldn't even bother. This isn't core to what they do. They should just let Sideshow and the rest have this market and focus on creating the best action figures possible.
I would be really interested in hearing from both Hasbro and retailers on this to see if anyone was satisfied with the first batch. These seemed to just sit.
I've got a handful of statues from different lines, but these don't appeal to me at all.
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Considering the companion figure for this piece was a Target exclusive Poe Dameron which needed a 70% clearance to move in most places, this particular scene seems like an odd choice.
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That's a really good point. I don't think there is any large scale interest in the ephemera of SW in the 6 inch scale. Environments, vehicles, etc. don't seem to work. I don't know if it's the price or the space they take up or what, but all of these go straight to clearance. The whole point of the 3.75 figure in the first place was that it allowed for the ships and stuff. 6 inch doesn't do that.
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I just think this is an area where Hasbro shouldn't even bother. This isn't core to what they do.
I will argue time and again for Hasbro's right to try new things and create new products to find new opportunities/customers... with that said though, this is one that just doesn't seem to work. Like you guys have said - the unarticulated figure, the strange choice in scene, the price is too high.
I think this idea could be great with the right choices (repack a Vader/Bespin Luke with a Bespin Gantry) and a lower price, but right now it just feels like a cash grab. Seems like the Kmart/Store 6" exclusives with the bases are kind of the same thing with better figures and a cheaper price.
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Even I, Hasbro's self proclaimed "sticker upper", think this is a really weird decision to keep going on this line. I sold off all my Unleashed figs long ago for the space reason these cause and those were 1/3 the cost.
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It does get tough to justify the continued existence of this segment of the line when we have so much other recent Hasbro product to compare it to. And Jeff's right: the KMart exclusives are a great example of that.
I can't see where the electronics add that much value. And the added footpegs? That feature also does not add that much value.
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I found the new Kylo Ren centerpiece set today at Target. It scanned ok at the price scanner ($49.99) but I got blocked first at the self checkout and then at customer service.
I wasn't too worried about it because I waited on the last ones and got them for $15 each, so I don't feel a sense of urgency on this one. But I assume they will be saleable tomorrow. (or not...)
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I stopped at my local ThinkGeek store today, and this was also the first time that I spotted the 6" Black Series Centerpiece Edition Rey, as well as the previously released Kylo Ren. Think Geek wants $54.99 for each of these. Considering that Amazon has already marked Kylo Ren down to $35? I can wait.
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At this price, I bit on the Star Wars The Black Series Centerpiece Kylo Ren (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071JW3J4Z/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) - $28.96