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Collectibles => The Black Series 6" Figures => Topic started by: Greg on October 30, 2013, 03:03 PM
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Found these listings on Hasbro's Customer Service page:
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Notable listings are for Chewbacca, Jawas, TIE Pilot, C-3PO, Darth Vader, Luke Jedi, Clone Trooper EpII, and multiple listings for the Sandtrooper.
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Chewbacca and Jawa = very cool.
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Really hope these rumors pan out next year. Chewie is my most wanted 6" figure right now, and the rest of that list fills a lot of big names as well (Vader, 3PO, etc.) A very (almost totally) OT based list as well, which is fine by me. Lots of good stuff on there.
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If that jawa is a two pack I'll do back flips.
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Nice, that's a total of seven new figures by my count, almost two full waves. Along with Wave 3, that I guess is slated for sometime early next year, that could take us through to the summer months easily.
Hard to argue with any of those choices, no hurry to see Padme or secondary PT characters.
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Looks like the images were taken down, so just for the sake of having them all here, here's the rumored figures listed:
Chewbacca
TIE Pilot
C-3PO
Darth Vader
Luke Skywalker - Jedi
Clonetrooper (AOTC)
Jawas
There's also multiple Sandtroopers listed, so we'll see about those. Plus, the deluxe Speeder Bike and Jabba. So, including the Anakin - and the new 3 "new" figures per wave format - I guess we could be looking at three more waves here (with one more figures not known). That might be the bulk of 2014.
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I hate seeing a clone on the list so soon. I hope this doesn't mean we will see a different colored one every couple of waves as filler.
Greedo made me feel they were playing long game, but this list makes we wonder how long it will last. Tie Pilot is kind of of a lower rung, but want to give Hasbro money for more cantina patrons and Jabba cohorts, and I am wondering if this line will ever be it.
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surprised no Yoda on the list
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I'm surprised to see no Biker Scout unless he's coming with the Bike. ???
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I thought Hasbro said a Biker Scout and bike were planned?
I am thinking this will be part of a "Deluxe" assortment including Jabba, which to me leaves Jabba likely high and dry on a full Dais. Maybe a Hookah and arm rest, but I'm betting no dais.
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Pretty sure they announced the biker scout and his wheels at toy fair. Jabba without the dais would pointless so hopefully we see it.
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I believe it was the Hasbro Panel at SDCC or Celebration Europe II where the Speeder Bike dlx set was first teased. And then it showed up on the Hasbro CS lists a few weeks ago which pretty much sealed the deal that it is coming at some point...
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Yeah the Scout and Bike are as close to locks as is possible and are confirmed by Hasbro... Jabba, I can safely say is also pretty much a lock (but it's rumor blah blah blah), but I can't say a Dais is a lock. Especially if it's part of an assortment. That's a bit more murky. :-\
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Jabba without a Dias just doesn't cut it.
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No dais might not cut it, but that may be the route they go just so that most people could afford it.
If a basic figure is $20, what's a speederbike plus figure gonna cost? $40-50? What retail store is going to carry a $50 6" set in this market? TRU maybe?
And what'll happen with Jabba? If he's in the same assortment as the Speederbike, then that means a $40-50 Jabba without dais. What would it cost with a full dais? The walmart 3.75" set was what, $40? Does that mean a 6" Jabba with throne would be priced at $80? I can hear the outrage now...
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I could see the price for Jabba with dais for about $50-60 due to the fact the he and his throne would have a lesser part count than something like the speeder with scout trooper. Sure, there might be more plastic but I think labor for assembly could keep the price down somewhat and 3x the price of a single 6" figure seems attainable.
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No dais might not cut it, but that may be the route they go just so that most people could afford it.
If a basic figure is $20, what's a speederbike plus figure gonna cost? $40-50? What retail store is going to carry a $50 6" set in this market? TRU maybe?
And what'll happen with Jabba? If he's in the same assortment as the Speederbike, then that means a $40-50 Jabba without dais. What would it cost with a full dais? The walmart 3.75" set was what, $40? Does that mean a 6" Jabba with throne would be priced at $80? I can hear the outrage now...
The first problem is that the 6" figures are over priced by about $5 right now. If they want people to adopt the line, they need to bring it down a little bit... $17.99 even.
Second, yeah - Jabba with a Dias would probably be expensive. At least $60. I bet it would sell like gang busters though. I think the 6" line is more collector driven than kid driven at this point and collectors would gobble that up.
Parents wander in and there is a 18 year history of 3 3/4" figures with lots to choose from ranging in price from $5.99 to $9.99 - most parents (unless the kid really really wants it) aren't going to ditch all that for a $20 figure especially with so few to choose from. And, with waves of four every couple of months, it's not like there's going to be a day any time soon where there are more than 4 or 8 options to buy from at a given time.
Are kids freaking out demanding the larger scale? I don't know, but given that pretty much only Artoo is on the shelves, I doubt it.
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The first problem is that the 6" figures are over priced by about $5 right now. If they want people to adopt the line, they need to bring it down a little bit... $17.99 even.
I agree with you... but Hasbro doesn't. In fact, not only are they not lowering the Star Wars 6" figure price for 2014, they're bringing their other 6" figure lines into the $20/boxed world too. Both the 2014 Spider-man Legends and Capt America Legends lines will be boxed/$20 instead of carded/$15. BBTS recently posted this note: "Please Note: Hasbro has raised prices on all 6" Marvel Legends Figures and the new MSRP is now ~$20 per figure."
I could see the price for Jabba with dais for about $50-60 due to the fact the he and his throne would have a lesser part count than something like the speeder with scout trooper. Sure, there might be more plastic but I think labor for assembly could keep the price down somewhat and 3x the price of a single 6" figure seems attainable.
Jabba with a Dias would probably be expensive. At least $60. I bet it would sell like gang busters though. I think the 6" line is more collector driven than kid driven at this point and collectors would gobble that up.
Depending on the packaging, I suppose they could get the price down. But ultimately, how many folks out there are even willing to plunk down $60 for a 6" scale Jabba Throne set? Like gang busters seems a bit excessive. Does anything $60 sell like gang busters anymore?
I'm not much of a 6" scale collector, so I don't really know if there's any type of market for this kind of thing. I guess He-Man would be the closest comparison since that is one 6" line with vehicles and playsets and things. There you're talking about $35 mounts or $50 vehicles (neither with a pack-in figure) in a direct-to-consumer model.
Like I said before, I'm not collecting this line, just watching it unfold as an insight into the 'new' Hasbro. It'll be interesting to see if the collector folks who bitch about a $60 vehicle being too expensive will be willing to pony up $60 for a 6" Jabba w/Dais.
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Does anything $60 sell like gang busters anymore?
GTA5 ;)
Like I said before, I'm not collecting this line, just watching it unfold as an insight into the 'new' Hasbro. It'll be interesting to see if the collector folks who bitch about a $60 vehicle being too expensive will be willing to pony up $60 for a 6" Jabba w/Dais.
What if it includes a thawing Han in Carbonite block? :D
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They may be part of an assortment as well... So prices would need to jive with each other if that is the case. That's where the inclusion of a dais becomes trickier. I'm not sure what that plan is. I can't see the bike set being a hot at 60 and I can't see Jabba having a Dais at $40-ish.
Btw if character selection helps prod these to kids/ parents not all areas have only R2. My area has lots of both wave 1 & 2 hanging around. Sandtroopers and Boba are the only sure sells here, but that seems to vary. It's a weird line.
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I don't know about these crazy prices. Hasbro can still make a brand new 3 3/4 ship for retail at $20. I really wouldn't be surprised to see a Scout Trooper and Bike for just $40-45. Is the bike that much more of a cost for them than a 6" figure or a smaller scale ship? Then add that multipacks or pack-in figures tend to be a bit of a cost savings over individual figures. I would think Jabba & Dias might fit into the $40-45 range as well. Jabba will be really big, but bigger than a 3 3/4 Starfighter or Slave-I? If it's just him and the dias/throne I can see these coming in lower. If they're really going to push this line, I don't think they can get the volume they want out of just one retailer. That said, if it does just go to Amazon or TRU, then I would expect that the price would get jacked up as an "exclusive."
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Just make Jabba the 2014 SDCC Exclusive and problem solved. (ducks for cover)
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Black Pauldron Sandtrooper, Chewbacca, Clonetrooper, Rem. Helmet Vader, Jedi Luke (with 2 shirt styles), and Deluxe Jabba and Speederbike sets... Very cool reveals at Toy Fair!
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Wish there were pics of Vader with the helmet on, def looks great even without though. The Speeder Scout looks amazing, really most of the stuff does. Even Anakin looks passable, better than the earlier photos at least.
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Were the Clonetrooper and Black Pauldron Sandtrooper on display? Still trying to track down pics of those...
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Yep... didn't get a good pic of the Sandie because it's just a black pauldron of what we already got, but they're in our gallery -
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6" TBS Yoda (http://instagram.com/p/nmBZKQs_as/) revealed
edit: HR version (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2014/05/05/6-black-series-yoda-high-res-image/)
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Pretty disappointing. Not a fan of pointy-headed, sad eyes Yoda, and soft goods would have been a huge improvement over that cruddy rubber robe.
Plus, at 3" or whatever this almost makes R2 feel like a good deal.
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That looks like softgoods on Yoda to me...
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The figure looks okay. I like the vintage vibe it gives off. Hopefully the final product comes with an alternate prequel head and robe, or a hover chair, or some force effect stuff. If not $20 will be rather steep for the little guy.
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Yoda was not on any of the rumour lists. Jawas, tie fighter pilot and 3PO are. Maybe we will see them at SDCC.
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As per JTA, some new rumors circulating:
Bossk (!)
Han Solo Stormtrooper
Also some confirmation of the 3PO figure rumored previously, although I don't know how they can really verify if it is going to be vac-metallized or not.
I love that we're getting Bossk because they're going to have to follow that up with Zuckuss, Dengar, 4-LOM, etc eventually. You can't make just one!
The Han Stormtrooper was inevitable, no doubt Luke is on the way too. I just wonder how much they will tweak that Stormy sculpt to individualize them. Hopefully it won't just be some half-assed kitbash job.
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Bounty Hunters seem to be a safe direction for this line. I would expect that Hasbro might want to space them out for a couple of reasons: keeping the Bounty Hunters hot in the minds of collectors, and prolonging the longevity of the line.
As for Han Solo in the Stormtrooper disguise? That just smacks of Hasbro trying to make good use of the Stormtrooper tooling. Hasbro has already shown that they want to put their tooling to good use by repainting the Sandtrooper for future waves. Why would this be any different? What I'm wondering is this: would they scale down the Luke to make him appropriately sized as being "a little short for a Stormtrooper"?
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I like these three. Less excited about Threepio, but will be glad to have him with R2. Maybe later on they can release a $50 Threepio and R2 2-pack. I just hope C3PO isn't 2 per case. :P Bossk will be terrific - there's tons of detail to that figure, so can't wait to see what they've sculpted. And I really like the Han Trooper idea. On paper it's a win for Hasbro with less sculpting/tooling and a win for collectors who get another version of a favorite character OR another stormtrooper, which is still tough to find. I'm assuming of course that it comes with a helmet.
would they scale down the Luke to make him appropriately sized as being "a little short for a Stormtrooper"?
This please! that would be a great win for the line given the infamous "short for a stormtrooper" line.
Bounty Hunters seem to be a safe direction for this line. I would expect that Hasbro might want to space them out for a couple of reasons: keeping the Bounty Hunters hot in the minds of collectors, and prolonging the longevity of the line.
I hope we end up with all six bounty hunters in the line, but you never know. The old 12" lines had them all eventually, but I don't recall any of those individual 12" lines having all six. In the latest vintage carded assortment, I think we only got Dengar, Boba, and 4-Lom, so it's not a sure thing. I'd actually prefer they get to them soon versus later, so if the line gets cancelled at some point I'm not stuck displaying 5/6 of the Hunt for Han scene.
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The Bounty hunters I would buy without hesitation. They were always my favorite figures.
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Some news on 2 upcoming BS figures this week apparently...teaser shot of the TIE Fighter Pilot, allegedly in the Yoda wave.
Also, silhouette tease of a Jedi-Con exclusive 6" figure that looks a lot like a protocol droid. No way they do 3PO like that, unless he comes with some kind of extra, but when did he ever sport any accessories?
I guess exclusives are the only way they can get any new figures into circulation anymore, it's been 7 months now with the same 3 figures and I have a growing concern for that Anakin/Clone Trroper wave.
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Also, silhouette tease of a Jedi-Con exclusive 6" figure that looks a lot like a protocol droid. No way they do 3PO like that, unless he comes with some kind of extra, but when did he ever sport any accessories?
Accessory options for C-3PO
A New Hope:
Oil soaked rag from oil bath scene - not as sexy as it sounds
Removable restraining bolt, arms and sand accessories from Sand People attack scene
Dead Jawa carcass from Sandcrawler scene - exactly as sexy as it sounds
Commlink from Trash Compactor scene
The Empire Strikes Back:
Snow deco from Echo Base
Removable limbs, cargo net/bag and crate from Cloud City scene
Return of the Jedi
Removable/detached eye and Salacious Crumb from Jabba's palace scene
Ewok Throne from Endor Rebel Roast scene
See? There are options. :D
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Good call. I thought about the cargo net thingy, but the Ewok throne makes even more sense.
Who doesn't want a Jawa carcass though? ;D
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A not so discreet hint from Rebelscum tonight. Evidently they were able to get access to the floor at SDCC this evening and photographed a lot of the Hasbro exhibit. But they were asked not to photograph a 6" Black Series TIE Fighter Pilot. I guess we'll get a look at that tomorrow night when preview night kicks off.
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TIE Pilot's a solid choice going forward. Who doesn't love those guys? Great costumes. Some of the best in the OT.
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That's another figure with some army-building potential. Too bad we'll never get a ride for 'em.
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Spent some time looking through the new gallery at Hasbro's SDCC booth:
Chewbacca looks better than first glance, looks like the only potential trouble spot is the paint bleed around the teeth. Good rendition though.
Anakin looks as bad, if not worse, than previous photos indicated. That neck joint is atrocious, plus the hair is all wrong and really doesn't like all that much like him, IMHO. This is by far my least favorite figure in the line so far.
Vader - finally a shot with the helmet on! This is a nice effort, except for 3 small but irritating things: 1) No neck, 2) Red eyes?!? 3) That lower, inner cape - why is it so hard for them to display this correctly?
Clone Trooper came out pretty well, kinda boring to me but no glaring deficiencies.
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The new 6" offerings seem like a little bit of a mixed bag.
Stormtrooper - Looks strong. I've yet to see one at retail, but I have one incoming via trade soon. It looks significantly different from the Sandtrooper, which is cool. I've been concerned that Hasbro was going to be looking to do a lot of cost savings by reusing parts/molds, etc.
Sandtrooper - A cool companion to the trooper with the orange pauldron. I just hope that Hasbro doesn't overdo it by offering a whole squad worth of different Sandtroopers at the expense of new characters in the 6" figure line.
Chewbacca - Looking good, and pretty action oriented. Funny though, the way they posed the loose figure in the case at SDCC makes Chewie look a lot like the Unleashed figure. As for the snarling expression? I think that fits in with the overall gyst of what the line is going for.
Anakin Skywalker (ROTS) - I like that they're doing the two varying portraits. The one on the figure is clearly Anakin as Vader on Mustafar. Most likely I'm going to put the other portrait on mine because I like the way it looks better.
Darth Vader - This one looks interesting, but a little difficult for Hasbro to execute. The undercloak seems a little tough to nail down. And the codpiece looks a little odd and bent.
Clone Trooper (AOTC) - So far, so good. It would be nice if the helmet came off to reveal a clone portrait. But I think this rendition reveals something about the design for the phase I clone trooper armor. Since that armor was never actually realized as a practical costume, but as a CGI design, would it function practically? From looking at this figure I get the sense that it might not. Anyhow, the figure looks cool.
Luke Skywalker (ROTJ) - I think the figure looks alright. And the interchangeable part of the tunic is a nice feature. But the face portrait? Hmmm. I don't know about that.
Yoda - This one is interesting. I think here Hasbro is clearly trying to bridge the PT and the OT with the one figure. He's got accessories that are in line with both eras. I'm just wondering about the articulation levels.
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Not Hasbro and pricey, but get your own Gonk droids for 6" scale
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/swb-scale-3-d-printed-power-droids-coming-from-prometheus-rising-studios/ (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/swb-scale-3-d-printed-power-droids-coming-from-prometheus-rising-studios/)
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So, if what we've already seen is it until the big Force Awakens barrage - are these the figures left until Fall for the 6" line?
Bossk
Han Solo (Stormtrooper)
Luke Skywalker (Stormtrooper)
Emperor
IG-88
Princess Leia (Boussh Disguise)
Commander Cody
Clonetrooper Repaint (Captain?)
Han Solo (Hoth) w/ Taun Taun
Luke Skywalker (Hoth) w/Wampa
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So, if what we've already seen is it until the big Force Awakens barrage - are these the figures left until Fall for the 6" line?
Bossk
Han Solo (Stormtrooper)
Luke Skywalker (Stormtrooper)
Emperor
IG-88
Princess Leia (Boussh Disguise)
Commander Cody
Clonetrooper Repaint (Captain?)
Han Solo (Hoth) w/ Taun Taun
Luke Skywalker (Hoth) w/Wampa
3PO was supposed to be in there too but I suspect they are having major issues with that figure right now.
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I'm going to say yes, unless they're plotting a surprise for SDCC or something... It's possible of course. However, TFA opens in December, the holiday toy blitz tends to start anywhere from August to October... Not a lot of gap in there for newness, ultimately.
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3PO was supposed to be in there too but I suspect they are having major issues with that figure right now.
Or they have bumped him back to be part of the TFA assortment as safe money says he looks the same. Your suspicion also makes a lot of sense though.