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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Legacy Collection => Topic started by: Jesse James on May 13, 2009, 04:13 PM
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Seems that way... Check out the front page for the images we just received, and what appears to be yet another rendition of the "big wing" TIE Fighter.
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ProtoTIEF1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ProtoTIEF2_TN.jpg)
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Ah, the Empire's short lived TIE/Albino.....
Very cool details on the cockpit, are those straps to hold the pilot still?
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It appears so... I wouldn't judge the coloring to be accurate, as it's not a final product, but you never know. They've released a white TIE for "nostalgia" purposes already, even though they're not white in the movies. ::)
I like getting the cockpit redone complete inside and out it appears, and I am guessing Adam May over at GalacticHunter will be giddy since I think he's asked for that once or twice...
It's sharp looking, I admit. It almost inevitably means the Interceptor will be out though, at some point. I can't imagine it won't be anyway.
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Meh...I've already got five or six of these in various colors. Not sure I want to play this game again with a new cockpit.
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I'll probably bite on this one, depending on the final colors. I'm curious about the red view screens though. Will this be the final color? If so, it's kind of neat to achieve the red cockpit interior lighting but I think it would turn out better just using it on the hatch.
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Time to sell my other four........this looks really cool plus it has the new cockpit. I hope they improve the connection points. It seems they would be better of just retooling the damn body, that's all that's left of the original.
I upgraded my A-Wing fleet (POTF2 & Saga) with the new cockpit from the WM one to have a consistent look. I even upgraded my previous Y-Wings front canons with the TRU one. I like my fleet upgraded with the best gear. (How nerdy does that sound?) But this Tie thing will be hard to upgrade the old ones. I rather have a consistent fleet color/cockpit function anyway. The Whole Blue vs Grey thing has really bothered me. I want my Imperial Fleet to look the same, at least this gives me a reason. I am glad I passed on the White one.
I hope the colors on this are movie realistic....
If anyone is interested I have:
Saga2 Grey version x2 (1 is still MIB)
ROTS Target Blue one
Diamond Hobbie Tie (MIB no Hobbie)
Open to trade/reasonable offers...........
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I've yet to bite on the big wing TIE so I suppose I should go ahead and snag this one. But where to put it...
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I assume this will fall under the overpriced $60 vehicle assortment unless they find a way to keep it as an exclusive, though Hasbro said that if they were to release a new larger AT-ST it would be less that $50 so who knows.
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I have the large wing TIE from Target but skipped both TRU versions and the Diamond Rebel ship. This, however, might get me to bite again. I like the updated cockpit and have been wanting another one or two large wing TIEs to go with my X-Wings.
Great scoop, Jesse.
Edit to add that I wouldn't worry about the colors. This is probably just a first shot and may not have any final colors in it, including the red view screen. But, that would be kind of a cool variation.
E...
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The new control yoke looks promising. It's one of the most distinct features in the TIE cockpit. It's just tough to tell how the production version will look from these images.
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My big wing TIE is hanging from my ceiling with no pilot inside, so an updated cockpit is of no interest to me. But, I'm glad for you guys who will use the interior as it does seem more film accurate.
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I've yet to bite on the big wing TIE so I suppose I should go ahead and snag this one. But where to put it...
Same with me. I'm probably going to have to finally get one.
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I'll probably bite on this one, depending on the final colors. I'm curious about the red view screens though. Will this be the final color? If so, it's kind of neat to achieve the red cockpit interior lighting but I think it would turn out better just using it on the hatch.
With regards to the red, I doubt it. Samples like these are usually made with whatever plastic material they have laying around.
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I've yet to bite on the big wing TIE so I suppose I should go ahead and snag this one. But where to put it...
Are you sure you want to leave an open-ended question like that with THIS group? :D
It looks cool, but I don't think I'll get one.
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Thanks E... I appreciate it.
The ship is outstandingly well done in terms of accuracy on the outside, so I'm down for one.
JACKOT, let me know about the grey TIE Fighters... I wanted two of the grey deco but only ever got one. I'll still likely buy this new one but if you're letting a grey one go for a decent price I'm interested, as I'd like two to flank my Vader TIE that (I hope) will get painted grey at some point.
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I bought the first big wing TIE Hasbro did, so I don't see the need for another one. But it's good to see them trying to get the ultimate versions of vehicles out there.
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I really wish we'd get other ships done to-scale... The X-Wing would probably be my ultimate "wish" as it's my favorite fighter of the films. The new one's 80% of what it should be, so it's just shy enough of being done properly that it's frustrating really. Every time I look my 1:18 planes over, I wonder what could be with Star Wars... A Y-WIng in this fashion, an X-Wing... The TIE's are nice, but I've got nothing but A-Wings to hang up against them, hah.
The B-Wing would be a fair bit massive compared to the other two Rebel fighters I mentioned, but really the XW and YW wouldn't be bad if done to-scale. I've always just figured they'd have to be "projects" for the future though.
I think I'll be lucky to get a Snowspeeder, AT-ST, and Speederbike done properly at this stage. And of course I've always got the Imperial Fighter Corps to keep me entertained I guess.
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Awesome! Another excuse to buy another TIE.
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The only "large wing" TIE I have is the last, TRU white version. I didn't have the money to grab the previous versions at their time of release, so this was my chance to finally add that ship to the collection. I might be tempted to get this new version though, depending on price and everything. I really like that Hasbro is going back and redoing cockpits/etc. and making the OT ships a little more "definitive". Hopefully we'll continue to see new versions of the OT ships in the next few years. One problem I've found with the big winged TIEs is displaying them. I haven't gotten to the point of hanging ships yet (which I probably should do), but you really need a hunk of shelf space (height mainly) to fit one of these in there - let alone several.
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I had actually been pondering buying another of the TIE's currently at TRU. This development brought that notion to a screeching halt!
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I hope they improve the connection points.
Ain't that the truth. I like to describe my Target version as the V-Winged TIE Fighter. The wings are loose enough that they angle in at the bottom.
An updated more detailed cockpit isn't a bad idea. I'm all for it.
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It would be nice if it came with a Evo styled pilot as well.
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I wish they had introduced the new cockpit with the white TRU release. I hope they don't go back and give us white, blue and gray versions all with the new cockpit. It's bad enough that when I get one of these for my MIB collection, it will be the sixth large-wing TIE that I add to my collection. (I have both the "Clean" White and "Dirty" White variants from the TRU release)
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I am guessing they are going to ask $70 for this. I am not kidding, look at the new Y-Wing, Arc and the Gun Ship. This is going to be bloody prison rape at retail.
Anyone disagree?
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...bloody prison rape at retail.
The worst kind.
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I am guessing they are going to ask $70 for this. I am not kidding, look at the new Y-Wing, Arc and the Gun Ship. This is going to be bloody prison rape at retail.
Anyone disagree?
I dunno. If it was part of the deluxe vehicle assortment, sure. Though I don't think it belongs. If it's another exclusive, it'll be pretty hard to justify a $70 price tag.
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If they ship it in a non-Window box then yeah, I think it will end up in the expensive vehicle line.
If they put it in the exact same packaging they've been using since the OTC release then it will be an exclusive.
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Thanks to our trusty Anonymous Target Source, a DPCI # was slipped to us that COULD be the retooled Imperial TIE Fighter. The # is 087-06-0639, and listed for $39.99. Some DPCI codes stay in the system for a very long time though, however this one's showing as still active so it's possible this is where the ship is going to wind up. This isn't for certain though, and we'll let you know more as soon as we hear it!
The price made me a little suspect but if it chimes in at $40 I'll be surprisingly happy considering the way everything else keeps going up.
I'm really geeked for this fighter too... I'm hoping for blue or light grey deco, as I'd love one totally movie accurate too-scale TIE Fighter. I'm not gonna toss my old ones out by a longshot, they're still fine ships, but to have one totally film accurate one in each film deco would be nice for the final display ship.
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So if this thing is $40 why is the intercepter $70 ? Seems like they should be the same price.
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So if this thing is $40 why is the intercepter $70 ? Seems like they should be the same price.
For the same reason the V-wing and Hailfire droids at TRU are $40 ea (despite having the figureless versions on the shelf there at the same time) - TRU pays through the nose for exclusives and sadly so do we.
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As noted in our stories as well, the TRU TIE is very most likely the Canadian price since it came out of the TRU Canada Computer system as confirmed by Toryn Farr. The Target story is just that the TIE Fighter DPCI # is active in the computer still. Target re-uses DPCI's often, so the TIE Fighter may wind up there, or it may not, and prices set to DPCI's have changed in the past closer to an item's release time as well. I'm hopeful it'll remain $40 though, but, as the saying goes...
"everything is subject to change", and that firmly applies to both these stories as of right now.
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After our spy report (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=93&p=69036&sid=98d9271cc03c0ca7c647120489212eac#p69020) yesterday, I think I've identified the this as the Shadows of the Empire TIE Fighter (http://www.yakface.com/2009/july/SOTEtie.html)
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That's itneresting stuff Jayson. Very interesting.
A SOTE TIE though? What an odd choice? Maybe to match some new SOTE comic packs or something? Just seems really weird... Can't say I'm digging it if it's white with red windows though. That'll be an easy pass. I still need a second ANH grey one. :(
Love the retooled cockpit regardless of whatever EU deco they're going with. Long needed improvement.
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Thanks, I agree that it's an odd choice, but so were the PX Ecliptic TIE and the Dagger Squadron B-Wing to me. I think this falls in line with those type of exclusive releases while justifying the upgraded cockpit for later repainting down the road.
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blah...getting kinda sick of these repaints even though it may have a new cockpit, but I'm a sucker for vehicles so who knows.
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I like it. I have fond memories of reading the SOTE comics (well, mostly looking at the pictures) back when I was 3-4 years old. :)
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As much as I love Shadows of the Empire, I'm going to have to pass on this if it's red. I'll eagerly await the "regular" rerelease.
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I'd be bummed if it was that color scheme. Pink on a TIE fighter? Ew.
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I'll gladly pass if it is indeed a SOTE fighter. I would've liked the Previews one but not at the price. What's not odd there though, is they did do Biggs, for that fighter, plus the HObbie pack-in. The SOTE Empire TIE... There's reallynothing to go with it.
The BW was lame though, as they seemed to have no intent to do more pilots. Why include the extra stickers, and things? I'd like the other pilots for sure, but Hasbro's I believe said no intention to do them. Odd.
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If this has a deco like the regular OTC version with a redish cockpit I would be OK with that. I am buying these to kitbash either way to make the Ultimate Tie Fighter. I am sure we will see this very soon either at SDCC or a leak.
If they make it look goofy it will perform as well as the Ecliptic one. You would have think they have learned there lesson on the Previews fighter. We shall see.
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Pass... I've still got three of the previous TIES in the box that I yet have found room for.
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Pass... I've still got three of the previous TIES in the box that I yet have found room for.
I am actually in the same boat, I have a total of 5 Big Winged Ties (ROTS, x2 Saga2 & the Ecliptic). The Ecliptic and one of my Saga2's are still boxed. I am ditching the ROTS & Ecliptic for sure to make room for new. I have several vehicles boxed that I have not opened. (AT-TE, Target ARC, Spider Droid, V-Wing, Lars Homestead, Rancor, Royal Starship, Target Tie Bomber to name a few)
I cannot wait to move to unpack because I am going to purge a lot of vehicles. I got way too much and only want the most screen accurate ones.
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Hasbro SDCC'09 Slide:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/65.jpg)
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I'm disappointed in the paintjob, as I really would like a new TIE that's completely accurate, but this one's deco and the red windows kill it for me. Fantastic work on the cockpit though, so that's hope for the future for a grey and blue-grey deco. I'd buy both gladly.
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So what makes this an SOTE Tie? Just the red window? Don't really care about the new cockpit, but it's nice they updated it. The white/grey deco looks the same as what I have already or close enough so I'll probably pass on this.
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I don't know that anyhting does, besides being white with a red window... It's fairly clean too. Not much to it. To me, this ship's too big to piss around with eu decorations.
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Likely a pass for me as well, but if they do a more movie accurate deco in the future I might pick one up. I have one of the large winged TIEs (TRU white-ish version), and it is tough to just get that one displayed (without hanging it I guess). Looks nicely done though.
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LOVE the white paintjob but the red kills it. If I find it on clearance I'll definitely snag it but at full price it's a pass.
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Man, some shots make the window look alright while the main one has the red as an obvious detail. It looks like they were going for a tinted look and instead got a full red window. Anyway, both of the TIEs disappoint me. The blue Interceptor and red window TIE... for every great product, Hasbro drops the ball on another. At least the pilots are the Evo figures, and the cockpits are wonderful improvements.
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Skittles TIE Fighters. Alrighty then. I still need to get a big wing TIE, but this is not it.
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It looks like they were going for a tinted look and instead got a full red window.
Since this is a Target exclusive, is it just their way of adding a red piece to make it more Target-ish?
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Knowing Target, I'm sure they liked the fact that it had their colors, but Hasbro has confirmed that it is supposed to look like the SotE comic TIEs:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/sote_TIE.jpg)
(image borrowed from Jayson/YakFace)
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You know what? The coloring isn't so bad. I'll get one, but I won't go crazy about this until a regular version hits the shelves.
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The big wing TIE, despite being a vast improvement over the old mold, still bothers me due to the apparent oversizing of the wings (as opposed to the old undersizing!). It was hard to definitively decide if they were too big, so I screencaptured a couple TIEs from ANH, and measured the wing proportion to the cockpit. I did the same thing with the big wing toy. Turns out that the film model has an EXACT 3 to 1 ratio of wing height to cockpit height, while the toy has just over a 4 to 1 ratio. I KNEW the wings were too big!
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/tiefighters.jpg)
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/tietoy_640x480.jpg)
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Nice comparison, but I loves me the new large wings after 25+ years of the mini version. To scale or not - it's a toy so I don't really care. :)
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Excellent detective work. The different is a lot less obvious than the undersized wing though, so I can forgive it happily.
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Absolutely- I didn't officially measure the old mold, but at first glance it looks like a 2-to-1 ratio!
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I do not get why Hasbro has Frankensteined so many new parts to an old tool. Just remake the whole damn body already. I get some of the earlier upgrade but do it right now. Each realease had a new part but it's out of hand now. Make the ultimate version and call it a day.
- 95 Rerelease was great for the time
- 20o2 Imperial Dogfight retooled the rear cockpit to remove the handle which was a welcomed change.
- 2005 The Big Wing comes along to smoke the others. That color was the best in my mind!
- 2006 The Big Wing v2 comes along. That color was also nice, more ANH.
- The small wing white Tie fighter was a nice homage to the vintage one for the 30th TAC line. I got it.
- The Big Wing White was really pointless.
- The Previews Pirate one was too as it lacked the most crucial detail of the R2 unit in the back
- Now it's back with the red vampire windshield looking too whiteish with a killer cockpit.
Enough already. Just make it movie accurate with all of those nice upgrades so I can happily invest in four. While this overall is very nice the color is making me hesitant. I wish they would match the upcoming Interceptor Blue. That one I will be buying a few of.
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The big wing TIE, despite being a vast improvement over the old mold, still bothers me due to the apparent oversizing of the wings (as opposed to the old undersizing!). It was hard to definitively decide if they were too big, so I screencaptured a couple TIEs from ANH, and measured the wing proportion to the cockpit. I did the same thing with the big wing toy. Turns out that the film model has an EXACT 3 to 1 ratio of wing height to cockpit height, while the toy has just over a 4 to 1 ratio. I KNEW the wings were too big!
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/tiefighters.jpg)
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/tietoy_640x480.jpg)
To be fair though, that's one model... There's everything from "lifesize" comparisons through matte paintings/actors, to about 5 other different scales of model that could be compared... And they're not all the same scale to one another, much less Hasbro's toy being right.
I will still consider their new TIE Fighters "to-scale" based on that. It's like the Jedi Fighter having three different scales, or the AT-ST, or the AT-AT, the Millenium Falcon, Queen's Starship, Naboo Fighters, etc., etc.
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I do not get why Hasbro has Frankensteined so many new parts to an old tool.
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The making of. Because suckers like me will happily buy each new version as it comes out, and sometimes more than one.
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Interesting Daigo_Bah, I think Hasbro did this on purpose. They'll have a reason to make a new TIE that has movie scale wings ::). They can't get it "right", otherwise they'll miss out on potential revenue. I hope to acquire this new cockpit version eventually.
Update: Anthony just beat me to my point.
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_TargetTIEFighterBoxed_TN.jpg) (http://www.JediDefender.com)
Click image to check out the story!
As per the front page, we've got a boxed image of the upcoming retooled Target TIE Fighter. Earlier, we brought you the first images of the ship's prototype which highlighted the new cockpit details that feature an ejection seat (as seen in Empire Strikes Back and the Expanded Universe), and the strange colorings of the ship (white with a red cockpit lense/viewports).
Later Jayson then speculated the ship's coloration matches the style seen in the Shadows of the Empire comics. This was then confirmed by Hasbro as the inspiration for the "look" with the red windows and "white" deco (film ships are light grey, or a grey-blue color, but never were white).
Though Hasbro's obviously being honest of where the ship's "look" comes from, it ironically is in a box depicting a battle over the Death Star.
I am a big-wing-TIE fan, so I'm biased, but if this had different coloring (IE: Film accurate) I'd probably buy 2 of them. THe new cockpit is outstanding looking and I'm hopeful we'll see a film-deco here in the near future.
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I'm sure you'll see this design in a more film accurate version, as well as TIE interceptors a plenty!
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I like to hope so, but they seem to like to "spice it up" rather than retread any old decoes... I think I'd pass on blue-grey, as I'm happy with the two I have (maybe one, I dunno), but grey I'm definitely still short on. :(
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Yeah, kind of weird. Won't change my buying plans. One for now, and if they hit clearance, all bet are off.
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Red window like the small one of the INT-4 mini rig. Looks like a great asset in our collection. Also the seat for the pilot is well depicted. Such innoventions deserve buying.
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Hopefully it's just the pic but that TIE Pilot looks very POTF2, the legs look too spread apart. :-\
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If you look hard enough, you can see the knee joints.
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One version did have knees though... The width of the stance is what says "POTF2" to me, but I thought earlier images showed another sculpt. Eh, either way I'm not buying it, but still if it's a POTF2 pilot that sorta bites.
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In the high-res pics from RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/2009/SW09TIEFighter.jpg), you can see the pilot pack-in has a holster and the goofy blaster, which indicates it is indeed the Evo version, which matches with what Hasbro said at SDCC (that this TIE and the TRU Interceptor having the Evo pilot as a pack-in).
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Is the main body color grey, white or a really light blue? I cannot tell. I wish this was the Saga2 Greyish blue color, I want to be done with this ship once and for all.
I also hate the fact they still have the 2004 Tie Pilot legs on this figure. The Saga2 Death Star Gunner with TAC's Baron Fell Chest/Helmet Gear make the Ultimate Tie Pilot. I prefer that over this crap. I really do wan the upgraded version but think I will wait for a more accurate movie version before I bite.
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The undecorated images we showed months ago were cast in all white, so the craft's base color is white... I'm not wild about that at all. It appears to have some grey panelling, and a wash, but ultimately it's white which isn't accurate to the movies.
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Thanks Jesse. That sucks, why do they do all of these funky colors. The Sag2 has been absent on store shelves since 2006 so it's not like it's been readily available. I want that new cockpit......
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I'm guessing diversity, but yeah movie decoes seem like they'd be superior in terms of sales, just from my POV. Some people I've seen elsewhere think white is accurate though, even though it's not. So who knows. I'd think ushering in the new cockpit design with an ultimately "EU" ship is an odd choice. The Interceptor will have it too though, so there's at least that coming.
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I plan on getting at least two TRU Interceptors maybe more depending on color, so yes at least that is movie accurate. If the Interceptor color matches the Saga2 BW Tie then all that needs to be done is wing swap to have the ultimate Movie Tie now. If that's the case I will sell the leftover swapped ships on eBay. That TRU Tie Interceptor should be hitting any day now so I will know shortly.
I am thinking about ditching the Baron Fel one but will wait to see the difference.
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The thing is, the Int shouldn't be grey... I'm curious to see if it's gonna be light grey, or blue-grey then, as the latter is accurate. :)
JACK, if you ditch the 181st Interceptor, please contact me on it if you don't mind. I got one, but wouldn't mind two so Fel has a ride and a mate.
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Looks like this is IN-STOCK (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001QUZ3TG?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwjedidefend-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001QUZ3TG) at Amazon.com right now. Shouldn't be too much longer before it starts showing up in stores...
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I guess it's not too weird that we're getting the "ace" pilot with this one since they are in the movie, but it's weird that we get the exception two out of three offerings (Evo, INT and this) rather than the more common pilot.
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Awesome fighter vehicle, as seen in the animated series ???
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Awesome fighter vehicle, as seen in the animated series ???
The copyrighters are obviously confused. ;D
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They seemed to have fixed the wing drooping issue with this new release, it's pretty solid. Too bad for the window colors, otherwise I'd pick up more.
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They seemed to have fixed the wing drooping issue with this new release, it's pretty solid.
That's great to know. Thanks.
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They seemed to have fixed the wing drooping issue with this new release, it's pretty solid.
Glad to hear. Will be picking one up with one of my numerous Target coupons I have floating around.
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I found these over the weekend at one of my local Targets, could not resist the fact that it has the new cockpit, and so caved in and got it. The red tinted windows are not my favorite, but actually do not look so bad in person and are hardly noticable at a distance. Thankfully, Hasbro did not use too bright of a red on the windows. Overall, however, the redesigned cockpit pod really brings together the look of the TIE Fighter to the point of near film accuracy 8)