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Community => Watto's Junk Yard => Topic started by: BigDumbWookiee on June 27, 2003, 09:50 PM
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No, its not the sequel to that craptastic Sandra Bullock movie...
Just got back from seeing this flick, and it was absolutely fantastic! The gritty feel really added to the intensity of the movie, and there are quite a few jump out of your seat scare scenes. Definately worth the price of admission, I cant wait for it to come out on DVD! :)
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Sweet, I'm going to see it tomorrow. Looking forward to it immensely.
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Excellent! Me and D-Mo are gunna catch it tomorrow. Sounds promising.
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Its a much more involved story than its seems like it would be. Its definately not just a Night of the Living Dead, go hide in the farmhouse scare flick. For as intense and creepy as it is, there is a nice amount of character development. There is actually not a bunch of human eating type stuff you might expect of it. The infected people are some of the creepiest characters I've seen in a movie, much more realistic and frightening that your typical comedic undead.
What makes it such a great movie is the realistic feel though. You feel like youre there with these people, like this really happened and someone happened to be there with a video camera. It's not Blair Witch real (as in motion sickness camera movements), but it does kind of have a documentary, non-invasive filming feel to it. Add to that a completely plausible story, something not completely zany and out in left field. It does make a lot of sense, and in an age of biological weapons, new diseases, etc, it has a very realistic feel. You can almost become convinced that, hey, something like this could happen, somewhere, somehow. Its a very reasonable story.
Another little thing that is nice about it is the fact that it literally jumps right into the movie. No beginning credits, etc. As soon as the Fox Searchlight music ends and the logo fades, the movie starts. If you didn't know the name of the movie, you might actually not figure out what it was called. The make the title part of the story, just as a piece of progression. The story begins, goes through a brief story of how it all began, "28 days later..." fades in, and the next scene starts.
Hey, and Brendan Gleeson is in it, a fantastic actor that doesnt get nearly the credit he deserves.
Im really starting to become a fan of Fox Searchlight pictures, they are really tossing some great flicks out there for people to see (One Hour Photo was fantastic, and the upcoming Garage Days looks like it could be decent).
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AND........ lol ;)
Its just fun to watch! Especially if you have a good audience. I cant remember how many times I just wanted to scream out "FOR GODS SAKE DONT GO IN THERE!" Lots of moaning and groaning (from the audience mind you). It would be a great movie to go see again with a lot of friends, just to be roudy and interactive with the movie
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It looks to be a great movie, but hasn't something like this been done before though? Wasn't it like "Phantoms" or something? I can't remember, but I remember a movie just like this "28 Days" being done already.
I'm still going to see it sometime though.
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I think it is a remake of Charlton Heston's Omega Men or something like that.
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Its being proclaimed as an homage to the Dead series and Omega Man all bundled into one. I havent seen the Omega Man so I cant compliment on that, but its pretty different compared to the Dead series
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I saw it today and liked it alot! I liked the gritty documentary-ish look and the obvious lack of over-the-top effects. I haven't seen a film that character driven and suspensfull that wasn't a SFX extravaganza in a looooooong time.
I'm a huge zombie/dead fan and half expected a cheesy knock-off of some sort. Boy was I pleasantly surprised. I wasn't sure how the film was going to, or how it should have ended, but I was happy with the way it did. I'll be adding this one to my DVD collection when it comes out.
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Here's a couple of interesting tidbits courtesy of a guy on another board I frequent:
I did some poking around re: this movie. It sounds like a fairly interesting disaster/zombie hybrid. Even more interesting is this movie was released in November 2002 in the UK. It's just now hitting our shores with the big Hollywood hype machine behind it. So actually, for the price of a movie ticket you can go buy it on DVD. It's all over eBay in official release region 0 format. I'm sure Fox does not want you to know the movie has been out for almost a year, or that you can purchase the movie rather than seeing in theaters. The commercials struck me as yet another re-telling of Richard Matheson's I Am Legend which has already been made into a movie twice. Once as The Last Man On Earth starring Vincent Price, then again in the swingin 70's with Charlton Heston as The Omega Man. Alot of the reviews I read for 28 Days also made those connections. Other comments mention that it's better than Resident Evil, but falls short of George Romero status.
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I am going to be seeing this movie tomorrow (Sunday).
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BORING!
Spoilers ahead, be warned.
I was quriming and wiggling around as much in this one as I was in Matrix: Reloaded.
Not going to recommend this to anyone, sad to say. Just not entertaining enough. Had they not ever met up with that family (the little girl can NOT act), it would have been a little more interesting.
The story is supposed to be about a guy waking up to find the world around him is dead and gone? Ah, but he runs into a couple. Then he runs into a family! THEN he runs into an army of about 12 guys!
And it was supposed to be a "deserted" place?
I'll mention that the "survival of the fittest" tactic playing out in the Army's HQ's was cooll, and smart but aside from that..bleh. I was majorly dissapointed, especially with the ending.
I did get T3 tix for Tuesday @ 9:00 though. 8)
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Ok, well I gotta argue, cuz I (obviously) loved the movie.
More spoilers, you're warned if you havent seen it:
Would it really make sense that every single person in the whole of England except one guy died from this epidemic? While it may have been an interesting story of just him versus a country full of the infected, it just wouldnt have made any sense that he would be the only survivor of the entire ordeal. No virus, no matter how deadly and rapid spreading, is going to kill out every single person in the whole of existence. It makes a lot of sense that the disease was seen early on, and a mass exodus of survivors occured, and the country was thusly quarantined and shut off from the world. Surely people would be left behind. It also makes a lot of sense that they found a large group of surviving members of the military who would be well equipped to fend off the infected (as evidenced by the movie). Fewer than 20 people still makes for a pretty deserted place in my opinion.
What does it take for a movie to please you? Not trying to call you out or insult you, Im just curious. This though, coming from a person that thinks Jango Fett is a severely overrated character along with the likes of Darth Maul (whew, insulting a lot of people now!), but I also hated T3 (which I just got back from a theater employee screening of), and liked the Matrix:Reloaded (for the exception of the MTV Music Video Dance Orgy)
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The story made no sense. A bunch of apes watch some violence on TV and are automatically infected with a virus? Riiiiight. Puking blood out of nowhere, so non-sensical.
To entertain me, start off with a story that actually makes some sense.
To try and pull off another "zombie" flick, with the same tired old "get bitten, turn into a ____" routine is just so..OLD!
Secondly, make the movie live up to it's "horror movie" billing and add a ****load more gore.
Third, use a real film camera. The entire movie went from real film to handheld all through out and was visually painful.
Also, whats up with the "28 Days Later" hyperjump? We're just supposed to believe absolutely nothing happened in 4 weeks and everything is just fine?
Lastly, tell these kids at Rebelscum (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=010926;p=1#000002)
that if they want to see a real gore/zombie flick, rent Dead Alive. Written and produced by none other than a film GENIUS, Peter Jackson.
I can't believe this movie had people spooked. ::)
For the record, I enjoyed 2 Fast 2 Furious so much that I saw it twice, and is the best movie I have seen in the past 2 years right behind X2.
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Ill address these one by one:
They never said, or even claimed, that the videos were designed to create the virus. It could have been research into making the chimps aggressive. There was never an established correlation between the video and the virus. When I saw it, I took it as they were trying to make the apes more aggressive, so they'd more easily spread a virus of that sort. There actually is established research linking aggresive behavior in primates to prolonged amounts of violence.
I'd say this is different than a typical "zombie" flick (although Ill argue these are not zombies). You can become infected pretty much the same way another bloodborn disease can infect you, by getting it into open orrifices or wounds. Hell, that makes MORE sense that just saying you turn into a zombie because you were bitten.
A horror movie does not have to include gore. Thats like saying a Sci Fi movie has to be CG, and look what a crapload of CG did for TPM and AOTC.
Handheld cameras portray realism and create a much more believable story.
The 28 Days Later time jump: The director didnt want to show all of the ensusing riots and mass exodus and blood and gore. It didnt progress the story or add to it. It would have detracted from the end story of the survivors trying to find out what happened and where everyone went.
Peter Jackson...... Would you think he's a film genius if it wasn't for Lord of the Rings? Be absolutely honest (although I have no idea of knowing otherwise), did you know who Pete Jackson was before LOTR? I like some of his works but I wouldnt declare him a film genius.....
Well, you like 2 Fast 2 Furious, and I guess that puts a lot of perspective onto things. Now there is a movie that is non-sensical pure unadulterated unoriginal tripe, along with T3, the prequels, etc. Its all a bunch of crap to cater specifically to the needs of the masses simply because it will sell tickets. At least 28 Days Later took some risks and wasn't made just to cater to the whims of the mass movie going audiences. The ultimate proof? Jango Fett. A character created souly for the fact that his Original Trilogy counterpart became such a pop icon. Had Boba Fett become the next Jar Jar or Ewok, I can guarantee Lucas would not have placed Jango in AOTC. THAT is out of nowhere, and that is non-sensical.
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The 28 Days Later time jump: The director didnt want to show all of the ensusing riots and mass exodus and blood and gore. It didnt progress the story or add to it. It would have detracted from the end story of the survivors trying to find out what happened and where everyone went.
I meant the jump at the END of the movie, not the beginning. Anything in between there would have made the movie alot more enjoyable, instead it made us draw our own conclusion, which is that 3 people fought off god knows how many "zombies" with little to no form of defense. Not bloody likely.
I did know who Pete Jackson was before LOTR, because I saw Dead Alive in 1995. He did a few more zombie/cult flicks both before and after Dead Alive. Only recently did I make the connection. His early zombie flicks, Dead Alive especially, are heralded as the goriest ever.
I don't get it. I think Fox Searchlight would have found it;s audience a little better somewhere OUTSIDE of the mainstream? This movies doesn't belong in theatres nationwide, for the exact same reasons you've provided. It;s not a popcorn movie. It's going to appeal to maybe 3% of movie goers, those being "occult/supernatural/zombie/gore" fans.
Directors that want to "share their vision" and crap like that belong at Cannes, or Sundance, where they can "prove" they aren't selling out, and just want to make people aware of their artistic visions and what not. Trouble with people like that is, how do they eat? How do they budget films? They sell out and go Hollywood, like "28 Days Later" did.
It will probably be considered a box office bomb, because it's not appealing to the general movie going public like I said. But, whats your beef with movies in general? Thats what they are, high bdget "blockbusters", gered to excite and blow away the crowd. Thats just what movies are these days. Fun. Nonsensical, yes. Fun to watch, yep. People don't want to go see thought provoking 2 1/2 hour long CGI wastes like Matrix: Reloaded.
In closing, 2 Fast 2 Furious is in fact very original, and a hell of a lot more fun to watch than some modernized, recycled conglomeration of movies that should have stayed in the UK, or just been released straight to video in the U.S.
Guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree because feuding over a conflict of interest won't get us anywhere.
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Since we are on the subject of spoilers, I wanted to talk about the only thing that I didnt like about 28 Days Later.
Why in the hell did they bother making a sign that said "HELLO" when it would have been easier and quicker to make one that said "HELP"? The only thing I could think of, was so when they showed the sign earlier, it said "HELL", to make the audience think that someone posted a sign simply to say how bad the situation was.
The one, and only thing, I didnt like about the movie ;)
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Oh My God! This movie sucks!!! I can't believe the false advertiseing of this movie- the scarriest movie of the summer, don't see it alone, the commercial where they show people jumping out of their seats, ect. What a bunch of BULL! There was nothing in this movie to even make you jump, fall asleep maybe. It was so dull.
I found this movie very, very, very, boring. I would recomend to people to save their money and not see this lame movie.
It was a waste of time and money.
I usually have at least one positive for every movie I see, but not this one.
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Looks like this is just one of those movies where folks either love it or hate it. Not much middle ground.
Kinda like the Prequels... ;)
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Thank You!!!!! 8)
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Oh My God! This movie sucks!!!
Wow! :o I guess it really must suck then. Glad I haven't gone to see it yet, because I hate wasting my money on a crappy movie. Especially when it costs $9 to see them.
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Ok, Im not going to argue over opinions, hey, if you hate it ok, if you love it thats cool too. Just one little point:
There is a big difference between false advertising and hyping a film. This is not a case of false advertising; if it was, media be damned because about 99.9% of advertising would be considered false under the same rules.
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"Danny Boyle reinvents the zombie horror film, and it's scary as hell".
Of course, thats a critics opinion. I think critics are marketing ploys, not to mention worthless. Perhaps the movies synopsis should be on the movie posters instead.
He didn't reinvent anything, he stole a ton of other directors ideas, then modernized it. "In my opnion", it's a credible and interesting storyline, but it's not scary by anymeans and alot of the key selling points, i.e. a emotional, yet transferable disease, doesn't quite fly.
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Nevermind, Im going to take this up with Fettish personally instead of littering up a fine board...
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I just saw the movie tonight. I had been a fan of the director after seeing Trainspotting, and the clips I saw of this movie looked interesting.
It's definitely got a very stark feel to it. Just the fact that they were able to get the streets of London as deserted as they did is remarkable. Well, with the exception of one guy I saw on the street as Jim was wandering off from the hospital.
This movie was actually shot in 24p High-Def, like Attack Of The Clones. But in this case, the HD look adds to the stark atmosphere. The lower-res (than film) image quality gave it a more realistic feel. Especially since the lighting was pretty spare, too.
The lack of music really added to the eeriness. Silence can be truly deafening. Especially when an infected crashes through the windows after it's been dead quiet.
The premise seemed to work for me. Animal rights activists breaking into labs does happen. And animal experimentation happens, too. And given how many bio-toxins there are in the world, natural and man-made, the premise of the film seems really plausible to me.
Truth be told, I found the soliders to be more scary than the infected. I found them far more dangerous, since their intellect remained intact, but their morals were thrown out the window. The infected were much easier to figure out in terms of motivation.
So basically, I enjoyed it, if that wasn't obvious enough already.
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As I stated earlier, I like this film more for what is wasn't than what it was. It wasn't a huge special effects extravaganza! It wasn't a mind-numbing bombardment of over-the-top music and sound effects! It wasn't a film that had too many main characters to keep track of! It wasn't just another run-of-the-mill popcorn flick! I haven't enjoyed a movie this much in a very long time.
I really appreciate a film that doesn't rely on a rediculously huge budget or the most expensive visual effects in the industry or the most popular music composer or having a big-name star attached to it. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the typical "popcorn flick" but sometimes I like to loose myself in thought rather than nothingness. Maybee that explains why I haven't seen CA Full Throttle, T3 or Hulk yet (I want to though, just no hurry). I already know what I'm gonna see. At least with 28DL I didn't know what in the hell to expect from the film PLUS I was pleasantly surprised. This wasn't the best film in the world (not even close) but personally I think it was very, very good.
I do agree with Jango Fetish that the ads calling it a modernized zombie flick was just plain rediculous! Fortunately for me I went into that theatre NOT expecting another zombie film.
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Anyone else see this??? My wife and I went yesterday afternoon. What a enormously huge pile of crap that turned out to be!!! Maybe it was my fault for being overly excited to see zombie-like freaks on the big screen, but I left that movie thinking "I should have gone to Rugrats go wild."
What's your opinions?
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I bet this merge in just a second will answer your questions... ;)
Seems to be some very mixed opinions on this one!
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Thanks JediMac, I didn't see the thread.
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A buddy bought this on DVD so we watched it... Some spoilers ahead.
I really can't say how impressed I was with the movie. You know, I think that before the family shows up in the movie, the movie was one of the best I've seen in a while... Once the family came into play, it was still pretty good... once the soldeirs showed up, it dropped a bit, but, I still really enjoyed the movie.
I think, if I could have fixed something, I would have made the latter parts of the movie a tad more understandable. Maybe I missed something while I was explaining to the friend why the women had to dress up. :-X
Good movie - go see it and make a judgement on your own, don't let a bad review scare you off... I mean... Cory said that Fargo was boring, for example.
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I mean... Cory said that Fargo was boring, for example.
Dont forget he also said 2 Fast 2 Furious was good, as well as Scary Movie 3 ;)
So when is Virex going to update Lobot's Duplex? Better yet, when is he going to post his DVD collection online? :)
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Truth be told, I found the soliders to be more scary than the infected. I found them far more dangerous, since their intellect remained intact, but their morals were thrown out the window.
Very 'Lord of the Flies'-like. It's understandable the infected will try to satisfy their desires whatever way they can, but we really don't expect a large group of people conditioned to obey and maintain order to fall into lawlessness the way the soldiers had. They actually went through the charade of being the protectorate.
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I mean... Cory said that Fargo was boring, for example.
And? I thought it was very boring, thats just me.
28 Days Later was boring too. Slow, predictable, and pretty much devoid of scares.
It isn't too hard to glom The Omega Man, Resident Evil, and then set it in London. Not to mention the movie was overhyped and over-rated, IMO.
I rented it again this past week, and I still hold the same opinion. This movie is for simple minded people, i.e. horror film buffs who thrive on monotony and simplicity.
Atleast 2 Fast 2 Furious was intentionally funny in parts.
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Yeah, not every movie can meet the high standards of a film like 2 Fast 2 Furious. ;D
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Well, certainly not movies with rehashed story lines, billed as being "scary as hell.", when in fact they induce sleep.
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And? That's my point. You found one of the best films ever (fargo) to be boring, you found a damn decent film (28 days later) to be boring, and you found 2f2f to be one of the better films you've seen...
Good movie - go see it and make a judgement on your own, don't let a bad review scare you off...
At least I thought my point was clear.
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There are few things funnier than arguing about anything with Fettish. Because, no matter what, everyone else is simply wrong.
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I mean... Cory said that Fargo was boring, for example.
This movie is for simple minded people, i.e. horror film buffs who thrive on monotony and simplicity.
Atleast 2 Fast 2 Furious was intentionally funny in parts.
Ah yes, it takes a true intellectual superior to enjoy 2 Fast 2 Furious. Seriously, anyone without a degree from Harvard most likely wont understand such a complex film. Truly a masterful work. Surprised it didnt bring home Oscars in every category.
I guess the same goes for Scary Movie 3. That movie is about as far as you can get for being for simple minded people.
Or Terminator 3. At bear minimum, you need a doctorate in physics to truly enjoy and understand this movie.
Wait a tick, Im starting to see a pattern here...
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I mean... Cory said that Fargo was boring, for example.
This movie is for simple minded people, i.e. horror film buffs who thrive on monotony and simplicity.
Atleast 2 Fast 2 Furious was intentionally funny in parts.
Ah yes, it takes a true intellectual superior to enjoy 2 Fast 2 Furious. Seriously, anyone without a degree from Harvard most likely wont understand such a complex film. Truly a masterful work. Surprised it didnt bring home Oscars in every category.
I guess the same goes for Scary Movie 3. That movie is about as far as you can get for being for simple minded people.
Or Terminator 3. At bear minimum, you need a doctorate in physics to truly enjoy and understand this movie.
Wait a tick, Im starting to see a pattern here...
When it comes to Sanford, you just never know...Sanford is known to flip-flop on movies (and other stuff). Matrix Reloaded anyone? And one minute he's a fanboy of Jango, the next minute, a DVD "afficionado." Who knows? Maybe this time next year, he'll be a fan of 28 Days Later.
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Alright everybody... Let's please try to stick to the topic at hand here: 28 Days. Thanks. :-*
Still haven't seen it myself, but I've heard a lot of good things about it, so we'll probably have to rent it pretty soon here - maybe on Halloween. Looking forward to seeing if it'll live up to all the hype... Hope so!