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Title: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Jim on December 14, 2005, 07:24 PM
Not sure if this was mentioned before. With Indy 4 coming out in a few years, what do you think the chances of the toyline doing something similar to what the Star Wars line did.  Meaning, having figs made from all 4 movies under one line or making a couple lines.  Indy 4 and Classic Indy.  Unlike the SW line, Indy would have a pretty limited amount of figs and could be wrapped up with a couple dozen figs within a year or two.  I cant remember how the originals sold, but seeing how few characters were made makes it look like it failed.  In all honesty none of the characters are really exciting except to fans and collectors.  Who is under contract for the line or is it up for bid once more info on the movie is leaked?  I know we all bitch sometimes at the crap Hasbro makes, but I for one would hate to see this line go to another manufacturer even though a ton of other companies could do a better job. 
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: Darth Broem on December 14, 2005, 07:51 PM
Well if they ever make the movie I could see them mainly just focusing on Indy figures primarily.  I wish they would make other characters but nowadays I could just see Indy and maybe a main villian or two in limited quanities. 
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 14, 2005, 09:05 PM
I doubt the movie will ever happen, unfortunately. Even if it doesn't, I predict SideShow will eventually step in and do some 12" collectables/figures/dolls of the classic characters from the trilogy, MasterReplicas will put together some nice artifact reproductions, and there will be no 3 3/4th scale to speak of.

 :-\
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2005, 04:29 AM
Indy toys have always been high on my list.  3.75" figures though only.  I can't really justify other scales at this point whereas 3.75" toys (of some quality) I can always collect based on customizing potentials (crossover fodder and such).

I'd dig a revamped 3.75" Indy line though...  Lots of characters to pick from, and it could be a profitable and fun toy line...  I think it'll have a shorter life than Star Wars and it has a LOT less character selection, but I think it is as varied as LOTR was and could last a little while.  Long enough to get some quality stuff out.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: John C on December 15, 2005, 10:05 AM
I would also love to see a new line of Indiana Jones figures.  It's a shame his toys and comics didn't catch on like Star Wars did.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 15, 2005, 10:46 AM
I doubt the movie will ever happen, unfortunately. Even if it doesn't, I predict SideShow will eventually step in and do some 12" collectables/figures/dolls of the classic characters from the trilogy, MasterReplicas will put together some nice artifact reproductions, and there will be no 3 3/4th scale to speak of.

 :-\

Agreed.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: Brian on December 15, 2005, 10:53 AM
I'd really like to see a new Indy line as well.  I've been tempted to try and pick up the Disney (or vintage) versions of Dr. Jones, but just haven't ever gotten around to it.  It would be nice to see a 3 3/4" line happen, if/when the movie ever happens.  It could be a short-lived line, even if it was only 3-4 waves and lasted a year or so.  If we got a VOTC Han Solo type of Indiana Jones figure, I'd be a happy camper.  Then cover all the movies to get some villains, Short Round, etc.  It could really be a fun line.  For now, I'll just have to be satisfied with Indiana Kermit :P.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 15, 2005, 03:41 PM
If we got a VOTC Han Solo type of Indiana Jones figure, I'd be a happy camper.

Ah, you know better than that, though...

If there is going to be an Indy toy line, especially from Hasbro, we'll probably have to suffer through two or three waves of shoddy POTF2 quality and action feature ridden figures. The sales won't look good, so Hasbro won't put in the effort to make a high quality follow-up wave (ala POTJ, SAGA, VOTC).

One neat thing about a 3 3/4th Indy wave is that the Indy figures should blend really nicely with the 21st Century figures... If you don't have enough villians, just pick up some Germans from 21stC.

 :)
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: evenflow on December 16, 2005, 10:51 PM
I just wish we could get a line that includes all of the movies. I had a list of figures I wanted, if i can find it i will post it.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: efranks on December 17, 2005, 02:00 AM
I'd buy a 3.75" line of Indy figures but I'd prefer if there were some figs thrown in from the first three films and it not just be an Indy 4 line.

I would also love to see a 12" version of Indy done by SideShow but I don't need a whole line.  The 12" Japan fig that came out a few years ago (was that Toys McCoy?) was insane...and expensive.  But'd I'd shell out $50 on a SS version.  There are just so many cool items that could be packed in, or customized, in 1:6 that you just couldn't do well in 1:18th.

But, as AE said, if Hasbro did it we'd probably get a bunch of action features and goofy things that wouldn't sell well. 

A while back I was researching some info on Hasbro and in one of their annual reports I think I recall Indy being mentioned in Lucasfilm properties that they'd have access to.  Nothing specific was mentioned, just the licensing.  Since LFL and Hasbro have such a close relationship over SW it's almost a given that Hasbro would have first shot at any new Indy product.

   E...
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: Brian on June 18, 2007, 09:11 AM
Just thought I'd dust off this old thread, as according to this article/press release (http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Indy_4_Figures_Playsets_Video_Games_And_Other_TieIns_106846.asp), it sounds as if Hasbro will be releasing a "broad line of action figures, vehicles and role play items" for the upcoming Indy film.  There's also mention from LEGO and others.  I'm really happy to hear this news, and hopefully we will get Indy and co. in a 3 3/4" "vintage" style.  I can see the forums lighting up already if they are revealed to be 5" scale or something.  Good news though, I hope we can get a great SA Indy out of it if nothing else.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: evenflow on June 18, 2007, 09:58 AM
Star Wars scale is the way to go, any other size and i probably wont buy them.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toy Question
Post by: efranks on June 18, 2007, 04:01 PM
Hasbro, Lego, Hallmark, Random House, Scholastic, DK Publishing...all the usual suspects that we see with the Star Wars license.

Like I said in my earlier post, Hasbro kind of had dibs on this line per their contracts with Lucasfilm.  They'd have been stupid to turn it down.  Glad to see the other companies on board as well even though I don't see myself buying any of the Lego sets.  I'd have killed for them when I was a kid, though.

If nothing else, I want one 1:6 classic Indy figure using Hasbro's SA GI Joe body.  He doesn't even have to come with a lot of extras, just a basic $20 figure with outfit and some goofy accessories thrown in.  I have all the parts already to make a cool Indiana custom except a jacket and hat (2 most important pieces) so if they give me those I'll be really psyched.

   E...
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: evenflow on June 18, 2007, 10:28 PM
WOW, i just posted a wish list for the old movies and we get an announcement that figures will be made. Very awesome! I hope they are 3 3/4 scale.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 19, 2007, 09:28 AM
It'll be cool to see how these are handled. Great list evenflow, btw.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: evenflow on July 1, 2007, 07:38 PM
Thanks!

I knwo this isnt Hasbro related, but is any one else hoping Medicom makes an Indy for the RAH line or Sideshow? I just want a high end Indy 12 inch to go with the rest.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Madcow on July 2, 2007, 11:23 AM
Thanks!

I knwo this isnt Hasbro related, but is any one else hoping Medicom makes an Indy for the RAH line or Sideshow? I just want a high end Indy 12 inch to go with the rest.

I'm hoping that Medicom gets the license as well. It would be the first RAH i'd own and i'd like to see some more Indy Kubricks...
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: evenflow on July 6, 2007, 05:55 PM
I just saw the latest Q&A from Hasbro, awesome news about the Indy figures. Can't wait to see the pics from SDCC.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Jesse James on July 8, 2007, 02:51 AM
I agree completely that I'm trying to reserve some of my excitement till scale/articulation/accessories and all those juicy details are announced.  I'll be much less excited about a new scale instead of 3.75" being the go-to choice.  That said, I am having trouble containing myself about this stuff.  Most eagerly anticipated toy line for me since I was waiting for the new SW line to take off.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Billy Ray on July 19, 2007, 08:19 PM
I am happy that Indy is finally getting some attention, collectible-wise.  I have all of the Disney 3 3/4" figures and they are ok, but Hasbro could do far better.  I also have a pretty good custom 12" Indy and some of the vintage stuff as well.

There is talk on the Sideshow Freaks forums about the possibilty of Sideshow revealing that they got the license for Indy at Comic Con.  Apparently they have dropped some pretty heavy hints about it.  I would absolutley love a Sideshow 12" Indy!  Superexcited about Hasbro's 3 3/4" line too and. heck, even the LEGOs have me excited though I am not a big LEGO collector but that mini-fig is too cool!

Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Morgbug on July 19, 2007, 09:34 PM
I'd buy a Sideshow Indy too and that would be the first Sideshow 12" doll I'd actually own.  I just decided to stick with my Hasbro 12".  Blasphemous, I know, but I already paid for them so no more outlay of cash  ;)

I'm definitely in for a Hasbro 3.75" line too and I'm really tempted to go back and get the vintage Indy toys too :-\  Yeah, no brains, I know.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Jesse James on July 20, 2007, 02:03 AM
The pic of the Indy Lego has me as fired up for a toy line now as I was when I saw Micro Machine Star Wars ships for the first time back in the early 90's...  It's been a long time since I had that feeling of excitement for a new toy line and I haven't even seen the one I want to really collect.  I just hope Hasbro's smart enough to keep things in the 3.75" scale for Indy and not go to 6" or something.  I'll be disappointed I think, if that's the case.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: evenflow on July 23, 2007, 08:09 AM
That works for me.  ;D
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Morgbug on July 23, 2007, 10:14 AM
Hmmm, premium format Indy from ROTJ.  Bonus for collector's edition is the gold idol?  Guess I'm kissing $300 goodbye.  Again. 
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Billy Ray on July 23, 2007, 12:36 PM
Was this confirmed, or just speculation?  Really hoping for 1/6th scale myself.  I haven't gotten any PF stuff, mostly due to the price, but Indy might just be the exception.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Morgbug on July 23, 2007, 01:04 PM
No, not confirmed.  Purely speculative on my point.  I just can't imagine Sideshow not seizing on the opportunity to do a premium format Indy from ROTJ. 

I really expect them to do the 12" scale for more figures but can only really see them doing the PF Indy. 
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: speedermike on July 24, 2007, 01:54 PM
ROTJ?  What are you guys talking about?  (Return of the Jedi?)

ROTLA  (Raiders of the Loast Ark...)
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Morgbug on July 24, 2007, 04:06 PM
ROTJ?  What are you guys talking about?  (Return of the Jedi?)

ROTLA  (Raiders of the Loast Ark...)

Mockery always works better if you check your spelling.  Loast? :P

Point taken, not using my acronym's very well, ROTLA not ROTJ. 
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: speedermike on July 24, 2007, 09:15 PM
Yeah...I wasn't really mocking, I honestly didn't know if ROTJ meant something else.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Indy 4 Toys!
Post by: Morgbug on July 24, 2007, 10:34 PM
Dammit :-X

Sorry.
Title: speculation
Post by: Matt on August 23, 2007, 10:40 AM
This is from the latest round of Hasbro Q & A, by way of Yakface:

Now that the Indiana Jones figures have been confirmed and a few revealed at Comic-Con (which look great by the way, I'm extremely excited). Will you be accepting any questions about this line in future Q&A sessions as well?

I know it's the Star Wars Q&A, but SW and Indy have always gone hand- in-hand down through the years, and since they're being worked on by the same team, I'm hoping you'd be willing to field a few questions about this exciting new line.

IF so, let me attempt to be the first by asking whether or not the "vintage" playsets will get an update (Well of the Souls, Streets of Cairo, Map Room) as well as vehicles (German army truck w/ Ark crate). The flying wing with shredible German Mechanic would also be a cool new addition.

Finally, IF the playsets and vehicles get an update, will they utilize the molds from the vintage toys like many of the current Star Wars vehicles or would they be all new sculpts?
(YF, 08/17/07) (http://cgi.denpetersen.com/YAK1/viewtopic.php?p=28928#28928)

Yes, Indy questions can be sent to the same address here, and since it's the same team bringing you the IJ excitement, we can answer. The answer to playsets is about the same as you might expect from Star Wars - It's a been a struggle so we are adopting a wait and see attitude on them and seeing where our figure/vehicle demand nets out first before going too far in the playset direction. The cargo truck is a definite probability for 3-3/4", but the wing is tough because it really is a big one. One thing that is known is that NONE of the original Indy tools exist anymore, so we will not be going back to the vintage tools.

It's interesting to me that they say the truck is a definite probability.  That's a good sign, I think, that this could be a fairly-large and well-supported line. 

That could also be a good way to deliver the Ark to retail.

But, we'll see. . .
Title: speculation
Post by: Morgbug on August 23, 2007, 12:49 PM
Interesting.

I'm expecting them to pretty much re-hash everything that's already been released plus put out additional stuff.  So the Well of Souls playset, Streets of Cairo playset, Arabian Horse, Map Room, Truck should be fairly easy for them to do I'd think, presuming they still have the old molds.  I'd hope they'd do a new sculpt or two for the figures in the playsets though.  I can't really think of much in the way of other playsets I'd even want though.  Actually when I think about it, I don't even really want the playsets, just the figures that came with the sets.  I suppose getting an Ark could be cool. 

I guess it's obvious we'll see figures from the new movie, but hopefully they expand a bit on Temple of Doom and just about anything from the Last Crusade. Connery has his likeness out there with Sideshow's Bond stuff, so it shouldn't be too hard to get him on board. 
Title: speculation
Post by: Reid on August 23, 2007, 12:51 PM
presuming they still have the old molds. 

One thing that is known is that NONE of the original Indy tools exist anymore, so we will not be going back to the vintage tools

 :P
Title: speculation
Post by: Matt on August 23, 2007, 01:00 PM
I suppose getting an Ark could be cool.

Yeah it could!  Gotta have the Ark.

Of course, if they don't do one with the Raiders stuff, they could always do one for the new movie. . .

 :-X
Title: speculation
Post by: ruiner on August 23, 2007, 01:41 PM

I think, that this could be a fairly-large and well-supported line. 




Seriously?

Title: speculation
Post by: Matt on August 23, 2007, 01:57 PM
Seriously?

Yeah, seriously. 

Not on the same scale as Star Wars or anything, but I think it's a good sign that there will be more to this line than just a few waves of figures.
Title: speculation
Post by: Morgbug on August 23, 2007, 02:35 PM
presuming they still have the old molds. 

One thing that is known is that NONE of the original Indy tools exist anymore, so we will not be going back to the vintage tools

 :P

You should know I never read anything Matt writes (cuz he's a prick).   :-X
Title: speculation
Post by: ruiner on August 23, 2007, 04:17 PM
Seriously?

Yeah, seriously. 

Not on the same scale as Star Wars or anything, but I think it's a good sign that there will be more to this line than just a few waves of figures.

Yeah, a few waves of figures and a truck.

You know my feelings on this line - it appeals only to collectors and we know what the result of that will be at retail.

The characters are boring as is the playset potential. 

Title: speculation
Post by: iFett on August 23, 2007, 04:49 PM
I loved the Indy movies just as I loved the Star Wars movies, but ya know what?  I could care less about a toy line.

Easy pass for me....
Title: speculation
Post by: Brian on August 23, 2007, 04:54 PM
I'm actually really looking forward to the toyline.  Like I said awhile back, as long as we got a 3 3/4" SA Indy out of it, everything else beyond that is gravy - so things are looking good.  I hope we get a good line, but I have to admit that I don't want it to get too big - unless I can suddenly find more display room.  Keeping up with Star Wars and other stuff is bad enough already - but hopefully we'll still get a healthy Indy line, there does seem to be a lot of interest.
Title: speculation
Post by: Reid on August 23, 2007, 05:27 PM
I'm looking forward to this line, although I'll probably only pick up a couple figures.
Title: speculation
Post by: JangoTat on August 23, 2007, 10:35 PM
Im just hoping I dont end up spending as much on Indy as I do on SW, which is why I am hoping i can find the control to only pick up the ones I need and not any more, main characters and maybe a german or two if they get put in plastic.
Title: speculation
Post by: Matt on August 24, 2007, 02:37 PM
Yeah, a few waves of figures and a truck.

So far.  But remember, there's the new film to support, too.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if the truck is the first in a $14.99-19.99 assortment, much like what they're doing with Star Wars, which will later include a vehicle or two from the new movie.

Quote
You know my feelings on this line - it appeals only to collectors and we know what the result of that will be at retail.

The characters are boring as is the playset potential.

Can't really disagree with this, but maybe that's where Shia LaBeouf comes in, at least with the new movie.  Maybe they're thinking that he'll draw in the younger audience who saw him in Transformers.

But yeah, I can't imagine too many kids getting excited about the older stuff.  We'll see, though.
Title: speculation
Post by: Jeff on August 24, 2007, 03:34 PM
which will later include a vehicle or two from the new movie.

I really think we'll see a TON of stuff from the new movie.  Lucas is waaaaay better at planning for things like that now - I mean, he even gave the Jedi Starfighters costume changes in RotS (red to blue for Obi, yellow to green for Ani).  I'm sure there will be plenty of things thrown into the movie specifically for toys...  plus Adventure Indy, Indy in Inca gear, Indy in suit, Battle Damage Indy, etc etc.

As for kids, I think Lucas & Hasbro are counting on Dads showing kids the old movies either before or after going to see the new movie - that will breed a lot of interest in them.  I've also seen rumors of plans to re-release the Indy movies this winter to get the marketing machine rolling... just like they did with the OT circa 1997 to get the old stuff on the kids radar prior to TPM.
Title: speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 25, 2007, 01:17 AM
I agree, I think the marketing bonanza is going to be high...  Still, I think that a toy line can be supported by adults too...  This Indy line I think will have legs with even an adult market as its core, including vehicles.  Playsets are what they are, and not likely IMO, but I could see the German truck, German motorcycles (tan and grey), Arabian Horse(s), maybe the WW1 styled tank from TLC, possibly a Kubelwaggen or staff car...  All doable, small vehicles really, save for the tank.

Indy, I think more than other lines even, really works well with playsets...  Traps and things would work well in the playset format, but I'm just not hopeful that we'll see any with this line.

Either way I'm more than pumped to see the figures, and can't wait to pick them up.  Between wanting the line itself and the parts for customizing, it's a line I'm full into right now.

And with the military line I collect, I really hope they do things like a German bike or the German truck...  If done to-scale I'd buy multiples of both quite happily.  I can't imagine the license to this line cost what the Star Wars one did, so I think Hasbro may be able to take the gloves off and really do some nice stuff without the heavy licensing restrictions Star Wars seemingly puts into that line.
Title: speculation
Post by: Artoo on August 25, 2007, 12:18 PM
This line could do well. If kids see the Indy movies. Either Lucas/Spielberg will re-release the originals in theaters or they'll air on TV alot. Indy IV will probably boost kids' interest in Indiana Jones as an entire series. So I have a feeling this line will be succesful, not SW succesful. Probably Spidey 3 succesful (hopefully Hasbro won't over-run this line though).
Title: speculation
Post by: Paul on August 25, 2007, 12:51 PM
I really liked my Truck(s) and horse.  I had 3 of the trucks (can't have a convoy with just one)...

If they put that truck in the line, I think JJ is right, the 1:18th scale military line guys would cross-over.  I also can't imagine that Hasbro's version of an SA generic German can be any less correct than 21stC.  I hope they bring on more than just the Mechanic too.

The figures thus far look great and I can see adding this to my SW and 25th Joe collections. 

I know my 7 year old Nephew LOVES Indy stuff.  I brought him back some from Disney World last year and he looked at that card back for hours asking about the other figures.

 
Title: speculation
Post by: Madcow on August 27, 2007, 03:34 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing this line on the shelves. Will I buy it? Maybe just an Indy or 2 and the occasional bad guy. UNLESS they go all out and make Temple toys galore. That's always been my favorite Indy flick and i'd love to have Indy, Shorty, Willie and a Mine Cart. I've also kill for a good Mola Ram from the heart removal scene... What i'm really looking forward to are the higher end 12" figures. I'd be all over an original Indy and a Nazi Uni version...
Title: speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2007, 05:30 PM
Wouldn't the mine cart make the ultimate playset?  Some kind of a track you could buy extra pieces for...  Then get the mine cars.  As a kid I would've killed for that.  It was one of the best parts of the ToD.
Title: speculation
Post by: iFett on August 27, 2007, 05:53 PM
Wouldn't the mine cart make the ultimate playset?  Some kind of a track you could buy extra pieces for...  Then get the mine cars.  As a kid I would've killed for that.  It was one of the best parts of the ToD.

Remember the arcade game from the 80's?  I thought that whipping the baddies in the other mine carts was one of the coolest parts of the game.  Also manuevering the cart around the broken tracks - good stuff.  It also had this odd voo-doo sound effect that always drew me to the game whenever I hit an arcade..

Oh, and to stay on course here - I wouldn't buy if it was made into plastic.  Got enough on my plate as it is.
Title: speculation
Post by: efranks on August 27, 2007, 07:36 PM
The more I've been thinking about this line the less I actually think I'm going to buy.  I really want a 12" Indy from Raiders and an Ark accessory and that's about it.

I'm happy toys are being made and, by the looks, will be well supported.  I just think I was buying into the hype of the line.

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Title: speculation
Post by: commandernarra on August 29, 2007, 11:15 PM
This may be off topic, but having seen the first wave of figures from the upcoming Golden compass flick, some of those Tartar guards might make for some good Indy adversaries http://www.action-figure.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=ImageBank&file=index&id=82235
Title: speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 30, 2007, 01:40 AM
I was wondering the other day when those were due...  For customizing purposes, they're really quite outstanding so long as they match up well in scale...  I love the dude in the fuzzy hat, and the "heavy coats" are great and unique fodder.  And children/women fodder is rare, so that's even more good stuff to look forward to.
Title: speculation
Post by: commandernarra on August 30, 2007, 08:01 PM
Which reminds me to ask you Jesse, what do you do with all your figures? I've read your posts on all the small scale forums for years, you seem to like the same type of lines I do, but do you customize? Do you have a site with all your work? I'd be very interested to know :)
Title: speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 31, 2007, 02:23 AM
Customize yes, site no...  My figures are hodgepodged right now...  Displaying is tough since I'm still working when I have time/$$$ on displays built to my collection room(s)...  In the meantime stuff's just on prefab shelves that really look like **** and are overflowing at this point.  At about 2005 things got out of control so I started storing army builders...  My vintage have been stored in a box for years now actually because I just don't have a shelf for them...  I'm working on a recessed one in a separator wall but it's slow going since I'm rarely home to work on it anyway anymore.

Customizing...  That's been on the shelf for the better part of a year.  Most I do these days is accumulate fodder.  I did tinker with some random "worker" type figures made of extra parts I have that I won't use...  Beyond that I have futzed with a ship here and there but not completed them.  Someday I'll post some photos, but probably not for a while.  Just not on my priority list of things to do really.  Actually I'd be more inclined to photo my collection for my own work here on JD doing reviews actually...  I'm clearly behind there and just need the time to do the work, which I don't have these days.
Title: speculation
Post by: Artoo on August 31, 2007, 09:57 PM
I really liked my Truck(s) and horse.  I had 3 of the trucks (can't have a convoy with just one)...

If they put that truck in the line, I think JJ is right, the 1:18th scale military line guys would cross-over.  I also can't imagine that Hasbro's version of an SA generic German can be any less correct than 21stC.  I hope they bring on more than just the Mechanic too.

The figures thus far look great and I can see adding this to my SW and 25th Joe collections. 

I know my 7 year old Nephew LOVES Indy stuff.  I brought him back some from Disney World last year and he looked at that card back for hours asking about the other figures.

 
That's good. Indy has kid support. Or will when most kids see it on TV or re-releases in theaters.
Where's the TOD & LC stuff at?
Title: speculation
Post by: Paul on August 31, 2007, 10:25 PM
It seems, unless there is a leak, Hasbro is saying we won't see more images till Toy Fair 2008...at least that is what this weeks QnA's seemed to hint towards.
Title: speculation
Post by: jedipurge on September 18, 2007, 07:58 PM
I saw the other day in, I think it was toy review magazine-one of those I don't remember which actually.  But they had pics of Indy in the hat & jacket from Raiders, which had the idle dude from the beginning of the movie.  They also had the fig from what we saw at SDCC with the whipping action feature it also came with the sheild from the knight that Indy made the rubbing from in Crusades.  Wait........ Whip action feature.....Rubbings.....I knew Indy was a ladies man but that's pretty kinky for the 1930's & 40's  :P

Raiders Indy will makes for a good scruffy lookin' nerf herder version of Han  :D 
Title: speculation
Post by: Nathan on September 19, 2007, 03:09 AM
I'll just pick up one or figures of Indiana himself--probably one each with and without the jacket--but mainly I want to steer clear of this line. Although if the (lack of) sculpting detail on the figures so far pictured is representative, then skipping them won't be too painful.
Title: speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 6, 2007, 09:28 AM
I really dug the figure sneaked at Comic-con, might pick up an Indy.
Title: speculation
Post by: Artoo on October 7, 2007, 12:37 PM
I wonder if we'll get nazis or Hasbro will just have the bad guys be the Cairo guys & thugees.  ::)
Title: speculation
Post by: Morgbug on October 8, 2007, 02:28 PM
It's been a while since I watched the movies and I really never paid any attention to whether most of hte German military involved was SS or otherwise.  I recall the uniforms in the Last Crusade being more reminiscent of SS style/color but the first movie was certainly much more generic.  Based on that I could say maybe we won't see Ilsa (sp.?) in her German uniform but maybe in civilian duds if they release her.  As for the German mechanic and many of the other Germans from ROTLA, I don't associate them with the SS necessarily (perhaps erroneously) so they should be able to make them. 

I expect to see the mechanic and possibly a truck driver or the like.  We'll see what happens though.
Title: speculation
Post by: Jesse James on October 8, 2007, 02:40 PM
The Germans in ROTLA were all supposed to represent DAK (Deutsch Afrika Korps), more or less.  Very generic and plain German military from that time in that region.  There's DAK figures out in the X-Treme Detail toy line right now at Wal-Mart and Toys R Us both actually.

The Germans from the end of TLC would be essentially the same, as they were fairly plain/generic DAK looking characters, perfect for the region and time period.

The only SS-ish looking Germans from TLC were the head honcho, Hitler (of course), and during the book-burning sequence where Indy bumps into Hitler as well.  There are parading Germans in, I believe, SS uniforms...  I think.  Ilsa's duds at the end (those hot, hot, hot pants) with the armband, while not SS or anything real even, they're just sort of Nazi-ish in style I think. 

The Germans at the castle in TLC were not necessarilly SS...  Easily could've just been regular Wermacht German military by their looks.  Nothing I noticed indicated SS Troops to me.

The only other Germans I can think of then are the U-Boat crew, which are just regular Kriegsmarine...  The pilot and crew in the ROTLA and the pilot in TLC would both be Luftwaffe... 

Toht's as Nazi as it gets, but that goes without saying.  I bet he still gets a figure though.  He's too important a character not to I think.
Title: speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on October 8, 2007, 02:44 PM
Toht definitely deserves a figure Jesse, I agree.  It would be cool if he came with an interchangeable hand with the burn imprint on it.
 
I'm mostly interested in characters from the first movie.  I'd love to see a Marcus Brody figure too.

I also would like to see the big fat drunk that Marian beats in the drinking contest.  I always thought that was a big ugly woman, but my wife insists it's got to be a man.   ???
Title: speculation
Post by: Morgbug on October 9, 2007, 12:30 AM
Thanks for the clarification Jesse. 
Title: speculation
Post by: Jesse James on October 9, 2007, 01:03 AM
That's what my extensive ammount of free time is for I guess.   :-[

It leaves me hopeful though for Hasbro-made German military figures...  I wonder if we'll get the actual German leaders seen in the films though.  For instance, the one in Raiders remarks clearly about not approving of the "Jewish ritual", and how the fuherer would view it, etc., etc...  Clearly a man with Nazi beliefs.  The officer in TLC was in I believe a black SS dress uniform when he left the castle with Ilsa and perhaps when he was on the zeppelin looking for the Jones crew as well.  It's been ages since I watched the film though.

Man this just pumps me up...  here's some figures I wish we'd get...

-German Staff Car w/Driver
-German BMW Bike w/Sidecar and Driver
-Arabian Horse with "Chase-Worn" Indiana
-German Truck w/Blonde Driver (Guy Indy Fist Fights for control of the truck, specifically)
-German DAK Infantry
-Col. Dietrich (German Head Honcho)
-German Flying Wing Pilot
-German Mechanic Large
-German Mechanic Small (w/hat)
-Belloq Ceremony
-Belloq Desert Explorer
-Belloq Jungle Explorer
-German U-Boat Commander (Adm. Ozzel/Sheard played him)
-Freighter Pirate Captain
-Cairo Gestapo/German Agent (white suit/fedora)
-Cairo Arab Thug (white robes, black turbin/mask)
-Cairo Swordsman
-MonkeyMan
-Sallah Cairo
-Sallah Desert Excavation Robes
-German Camera Crew
-Indiana Regular duds.
-Indiana In German Disguise
-Indiana In Arab Desert Excavation Disguise
-Indiana w/out Jacket
-Toht
-Marrion Dress
-Marrion Cairo
-Marrion Nepal

Man...  That's just a starter list too now that I think about it...  Obscure, and highly unlikely I get half of it, but man that'd be a sweet start, and just one film...  I wish this line had legs under it to get really obscure, but I think that's wishful thinking on my part and nothing more.  Bummer...  I'm still stoked about this toy line next year.  I think it may be as big to me as Star Wars since 2008's going to be a lot of EU stuff and less film items seemingly.
Title: speculation
Post by: Paul on October 9, 2007, 08:18 AM
I'll take one of each on JJ's list....and an army of the Soldier types.

As far as the "N" word..... The Germans in the movie are mostly garden variety Hollywood WWII Era Germans,   World Domination minded, eat their own children types.

It has been a while since I have watched the "Other Trilogy" so this may be fuzzy...

The Germans in the Castle in TLC, seem to be based loosely on the Waffen SS (if you look at their collar tabs or "litzen" you notice they do not have the typical Heer "Bars" but more square tabs with the SS Runes) I say loosely because these collar devices would not be worn until 1940 or so.

My only concern is that they give them the Correct Gear/Weapon and not what they had in the movie.  Every German had an MP40 it seemed (again, not quite correct for the Indiana Jones time period) but had the ammunition pouches for the K98 rifle, no wonder Indy always won the Germans had the wrong ammo....I also wonder if Indiana Jones in German Disquise will come with a Vietnam Era RPG7 to threaten to blow up the ark?  And I'll still buy them if they are "Film Accurate" but historically inaccurate, I am just wishing, since the other company JJ mentioned drops the ball on WW2 Germans already.  So hasbro could fill a gap.
Title: speculation
Post by: Matt on October 11, 2007, 11:56 AM
Man this just pumps me up...  here's some figures I wish we'd get...

You do know we're already getting some of this stuff, right?

-Belloq Ceremony
-Cairo Swordsman
-MonkeyMan
-Sallah Desert Excavation Robes
-Indiana Regular duds.
-Indiana w/out Jacket
-Marion Cairo
Title: speculation
Post by: Jesse James on October 12, 2007, 12:22 AM


You do know we're already getting some of this stuff, right?


Indeed...  I'm just kind of giving a general wishlist, regardless of it being confirmed.  I don't know if half of what I want is what I'll see though.  I'm really most curious about this line's life expectancy.  I think it could really do well in limited capacity.  It'll never see the numbers Star Wars does in a year I think, but what I mean is that with a set # (20 maybe?) of figures a year or something, I could see it really doing well for a longer period of time.  Especially if there's parts sharing, etc. 
Title: speculation
Post by: Billy Ray on October 14, 2007, 02:08 AM


You do know we're already getting some of this stuff, right?


Indeed...  I'm just kind of giving a general wishlist, regardless of it being confirmed.  I don't know if half of what I want is what I'll see though.  I'm really most curious about this line's life expectancy.  I think it could really do well in limited capacity.  It'll never see the numbers Star Wars does in a year I think, but what I mean is that with a set # (20 maybe?) of figures a year or something, I could see it really doing well for a longer period of time.  Especially if there's parts sharing, etc. 

Looks like 30 figures next year according to the Hasbro Q&A at Boba's Bounty:
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1. For those of us who like to budget in advance, about how many new Star Wars figures will we be seeing in 2008? Indiana Jones?

It's too early to give totals, but in next year's "Saga" line (including Spring 30th and the follow-up line) you can expect about the same as this year, perhaps a bit fewer as we make room for Clone Wars. The Clone Wars details are being kept under wraps, but it will be a solid showing. Finally, on IJ, we are looking at close to 30 basic figures....strong support for all four IJ films over the course of the year.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Artoo on October 14, 2007, 09:10 AM
I'm thinking 6 for Doom, 7 for Crusade & the rest for Crystal Skull. Then we'll see more in '09 maybe with some EU stuff.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Jesse James on October 15, 2007, 01:22 AM
30's not a bad total for a year...  You gotta imagine the new flick gets the most...  2/3 or slightly less?  I guess the Raiders line-up we saw is probably it for Raiders?  Or anyone think I'm off there?

TOD seems to have the least possibility to me, so maybe TLC and ROTLA get a little heavier lineup... 

I'm still just excited about this.  Next year's gonna be just that much worse financially.  Time for p/t evening work maybe.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Brian on October 15, 2007, 09:39 AM
Yeah, 30 or so for the year doesn't sound too bad.  I was hoping for a number around there or lower so it would be somewhat easy to keep up.  There are times I wouldn't mind the Star Wars numbers landing a little closer to this (or 40ish).  If that answer's Star Wars number doesn't include the CW line, its going to be an expensive year.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 15, 2007, 09:48 AM
Yeah, 30 or so for the year doesn't sound too bad. 

If you'r not collecting other stuff, not at all, but for me, the lower the number, the more tempted I'd be to pick them all up.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Morgbug on October 15, 2007, 09:56 AM
Thirty is more than I was expecting, that's for sure (the more disturbing number is that SW will have as many again next year as this year did) :o  I'd expect more weighting to the new flick, but 2/3 seems high to me.  I'm sure the movie will do well, regardless of how good it actually is, so I can see at least half going that way, but 10 figures (1/3) would cover the main characters off pretty well, pretty fast.  Another five makes it half and that's a lot.  

As for ToD:
1. Indy
2. Thugee
3. Mola Ram
4. Short Round (or whatever the name was)
5. annoying broad (maybe a two pack with the kid?)

The first three were made in the vintage line, the last two were apparently shown in a catalogue but never released.  Those obviously make the most sense and any other figures are going to be very secondary characters, so I can't see many of those made.  

ROTLA
6. -Belloq Ceremony
7. -Cairo Swordsman
8. -MonkeyMan
9. -Sallah Desert Excavation Robes
10. -Indiana Regular duds.
11. -Indiana w/out Jacket
12. -Marion Cairo

TLC
13. Ilsa
14. Senior Jones
15. Marcus (sp?)

That would leave half the number for next year's movie.  Three waves of 5 figures?  Who knows.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Brian on October 15, 2007, 02:16 PM
Using the 30 figure estimate, I think your break-down looks pretty good/accurate Brent.  I'm not sure what kind of legs this line will have, it will be interesting to see.  I'm really excited for this line, and have been hoping for this for some time, but part of me hopes it doesn't get too crazy.  For me, its so difficult to just keep up with the Hasbro Star Wars stuff alone, so I don't necessarily need another line that has a ton of stuff every year.  Not that we don't want to see it though.  I would think this line would have more of a collector base even than Star Wars, and I can't necessarily see a whole lot of kid interest beyond right around the movie release.  Who knows though.  I don't know, aside from "random soldier guy" how long this line could continue on each year (beyond the first year+ at least).  Anyways, aside from that, I am really looking forward to it.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: speedermike on October 15, 2007, 10:45 PM
I think that Hasbro knows that there is a high interest by collectors, but will only take the chance in a movie year, so we'll get hit with 30 or so figs next year, and not much beyond that.  Maybe a few vehicles and possibly some Deluxe figures. ( I just hope we don't get 15 figures from the new film, and 15 from the original 3...)

But after 12-18 months, I think it will be tapped.  I'm very glad that it's happening, but I think that a collection with and end in site would be enjoyable.

However, if these go over prettty well, I could see some EE types coming in and making some exclusives the folowing year.

Oh, and his name was Short Round..as in the ROUND of ammunition was SHORT (missing shots)...The name comes from a an old Sam Fuller film called Steel Helmet.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Jeff on October 15, 2007, 10:50 PM
if these go over prettty well, I could see some EE types coming in and making some exclusives the folowing year.

I'm pretty sure you can already start expecting a number of exclusives starting right away for Target, TRU, & Wal-Mart to go along with the movie release.    Hasbro made it happen for TFers, Spiderman3 , RotS, etc.  I have no doubts that it will happen for IJ4 too...
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: evenflow on October 16, 2007, 08:45 AM
So 30 figures: (based on my wish list)

ROTLA

1. Indy w/ gun, pouch, whip, and Gold Idle
2. Indy in German uniform
3. Marion Ravenwood w/ medallion
4. Belloq in Ceremonial Gown
5. German Mechanic w/ wrench
6. Sallah w/ torch
7. Toht
8. Cairo Swordsman w/ sword
9. Belloq w/ map

TOD

10. Indy w/ Knife no jacket
11. Willie Scott in gold/red dress w/ diamond & antedote
12. Mola Rom w/ removable head gear
13. Short Round w/ removable cap
14. Giant Thugee

TLC

15. Indy w/ removable hat & grail
16. Henry Jones w/ removable hat & grail diary
17. Young Indiana w/ cross and dog
18. German soldier w/ gun
19. German General w/ baton
20. Dr. Shnieder w/ false grail
21. Knight w/ armor & sword
22. Casim

That leaves 8 figures for the new movie.

There are a few others i would like: Lao, Indy in Tux, Marcus, Donalvan with grail tablet. I am sure there are more but i am drawing a blank right now.

If they do playsets and a riders assortment that gives a little more room.

Beast assortment:
1. Sallah w/ red hat with Camel
2. Indy w/ white horse
3. Henry w/ bandana with brown horse
4. Battle pack with Indy, Willie, Short Round, and Elephant

Playsets:
28. Well of Souls w/ snakes, ark, & Cermonial Indy
29. Streets of Cairo w/ Arab Spy & monkey
30. Underground Venice tomb w/ coffins, skeletons, second marking(shield), & rats
Title: speculation
Post by: Brian on October 16, 2007, 09:37 AM
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But after 12-18 months, I think it will be tapped.  I'm very glad that it's happening, but I think that a collection with and end in site would be enjoyable.

I have to agree with that.  I'm really excited for this line, but I'd be just fine if it was limited to a year or so worth of product - especially if the figures are very well done (along the lines of VTSC or this year's TAC figures).  Like I've said before, I used to just hope for some sort of SWShop exclusive "ultimate" Indy as an offshoot of the Star Wars line, so the fact that we're getting our own Indy line is just gravy to me.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Morgbug on October 16, 2007, 11:56 AM
I like your list Dan, I just think they're going to weight it more heavily towards the new movie than 8 figures.  Not sure how many will be in a "wave" but I'd guess 5-6 and probably at least two waves based on the new movie.  I've not been reading much about the spoilers, so not entirely sure who all is a potential figure.

I also agree with the assessment that this line probably won't have great legs.  Probably the 12-24 month time frame before we start seeing some dwindling and we're all struggling to get the last five figures which only came out in Saskatoon and Denver.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Matt on October 16, 2007, 05:27 PM
So 30 figures: (based on my wish list)

ROTLA

1. Indy w/ gun, pouch, whip, and Gold Idle
2. Indy in German uniform
3. Marion Ravenwood w/ medallion
4. Belloq in Ceremonial Gown
5. German Mechanic w/ wrench
6. Sallah w/ torch
7. Toht
8. Cairo Swordsman w/ sword
9. Belloq w/ map

We already know what seven of the figures are, and they're all from Raiders:

1. Indy Jacket SA
2. Indy Shirt Whipping Action
3. Marion Cairo
4. Belloq Ceremony
5. Cairo Swordsman
6. Sallah Robes
7. Monkey Man

For Temple of Doom, I pretty much agree with the five you guys have picked:

Indy Shirt (with one sleeve missing) and sword
Mola Ram
Willie Scott (not sure which outfit - Nightclub dress is probably the most interesting visually, but would stink as an action figure)
Giant Thuggee
Short Round (maybe with the Maharaja packed in for better value)

Last Crusade's a bit tougher:

Junior
Senior
Elsa

That's fifteen already, and you gotta figure that the new movie will get at least around ten or so.  Going off that, here's five more from the trilogy that I think we might see:

Marcus Brody
Toht
Bald Mechanic
River Phoenix
Grail Knight
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: darthjaybay on October 16, 2007, 06:21 PM
As for the Raiders lineup, besides the 7 shown, they need to at the very least get us Indy in German outfit, Toht, regular duds Belloq, German Mechanic (bald dude) and the German Commander (dont know his name... the third guy standing at the ceremony altar when the Ark is opened, who then melts!)
I think the 5 you mentioned from the Temple of Doom are guarantees!  However, I was thinking Short Round and Willie would be packed together.  Also, maybe a standard thugee guard as well.  That would about wrap up TOD, except if they were really nice and gave us the tux indy with nuerhache urn and Lao che with diamond!
As for Last Crusade,  I think we can count on Henry Sr.  I believe he was mentioned in one of the past hasbro Q&A's with other figures and they said all figures mentioned including Henry Sr were strong candidates and would likely be included.  I would guess LC containing:
Henry Sr.
Young Indy with cross
Donovan with false grail
German General (not sure what his name is, the one indy fought on the tank)
Generic German soldier
Grail Knight

Hopefully they will give us Brody, Elsa, Indy with tie and Casim before the line ends!  So that is a total of 29 figures covering the three classic films. So add that to an estimated 15 figures for the new movie (max!) and that would bring the total line count to 44...
I dont think that is much considering we are getting 30 alone in 2008.  I would be ok with the line ending as long as we got the characters mentioned above.

BRING ON THE INDY LINE!!!!!  ;D
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Artoo on October 23, 2007, 05:54 PM
Here's what I see:
Raiders-
The already Known 7

Temple-
Indy w/ Sword, No Jacket
Short Round
Willie (Club Obi-Wan Dress)
Mola Ram
Thugee
Lao Che

Crusade-
Indy w/ Grail
Henry Jones Sr.
Elsa (German Outfit)
Donovan
Brody
Indy Nazi Disguise
Knight

Playsets:
Marion's Bar w/ Toht & Marion
Ark Revealing w/ Nazi Trooper & Nazi Disguise Indy

Beasts:
Arabian Horse w/ Indy
Camel w/ Sallah (Hat)
Elephant w/ Willie

Vehicles:
Tank w/ Nazi Soldier & Nazi General (The main one)
Motorcycle Pack (2-Seat & 1 Seat) w/ Nazi soldier
Ark Truck w/ Nazi Driver

Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Brian on October 24, 2007, 09:11 AM
I remember as a kid always wanting an Indiana Jones action figure (Endor Han was my sub), but I have to admit I wasn't real familiar with the toy line until later on.  I've thought about picking some up several times, but never pulled the trigger - and now things look ridiculously expensive.  Seeing Jeff's playset pics above, I really hope we see some of those for the line next year - heck, even if they use the same molds it would be pretty cool.  It looks/sounds like it was a nice line overall though - I would have loved that as a kid, but I don't remember ever seeing it really around here.  Of course, our shopping options were somewhat limited I guess.
Title: Indiana Jones speculation
Post by: Matt on October 24, 2007, 03:45 PM
Seeing Jeff's playset pics above, I really hope we see some of those for the line next year - heck, even if they use the same molds it would be pretty cool.

Doesn't sound like any of the old stuff is available:

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. . .IF so, let me attempt to be the first by asking whether or not the "vintage" playsets will get an update (Well of the Souls, Streets of Cairo, Map Room) as well as vehicles (German army truck w/ Ark crate). The flying wing with shredible German Mechanic would also be a cool new addition.

Finally, IF the playsets and vehicles get an update, will they utilize the molds from the vintage toys like many of the current Star Wars vehicles or would they be all new sculpts?
(YF, 08/17/07) (http://cgi.denpetersen.com/YAK1/viewtopic.php?p=28928#28928)

. . .The answer to playsets is about the same as you might expect from Star Wars - It's a been a struggle so we are adopting a wait and see attitude on them and seeing where our figure/vehicle demand nets out first before going too far in the playset direction. The cargo truck is a definite probability for 3-3/4", but the wing is tough because it really is a big one. One thing that is known is that NONE of the original Indy tools exist anymore, so we will not be going back to the vintage tools.

I'm curious what they're gonna do about the Ark (assuming they're doing one, of course).

It could be released as an accessory with another figure, but it's big enough that it could probably be released by itself, on it's own card (that may be a little out there for Hasbro, though).  Sounds like the truck may be on the way--perhaps the Ark crate could be packed in along with that?  Could be a good way to get people to buy an otherwise fairly-boring vehicle.  And there's always the possibility that they could do a new Well of Souls, and they'd have to include the Ark with that.

Guess we'll just have to wait until Toy Fair to find out, unless there's a big leak beforehand (which would be nice).
Title: wav1
Post by: DoctorPadawan on October 24, 2007, 06:36 PM
It looks like Hasbro's going with the "each figure includes an artifact" approach (if the initial ROTLA figures are any indication), so the Ark itself might be a good opportunity for Hasbro to do the oft-requested "build a figure" concept in the Indy line.  Pack in the bottom with one figure, a slab of "sand" with another, the lid with another, the poles with two others, and there you go.

I have to admit, though, that I'd rather it be a mailaway piece that would come in an outer box with an inner "wood crate."  Top men would be sending that out of course. :)

As for my wishlist, as long as I get an SA Indy, Henry Senior, Sallah, Marcus Brody, and Mola Ram, I'll be happy.  I'll probably buy the rest of the figures, too, but those are my top 5 I really want.
Title: IJ speculation
Post by: Matt on October 25, 2007, 05:55 PM
It looks like Hasbro's going with the "each figure includes an artifact" approach (if the initial ROTLA figures are any indication), so the Ark itself might be a good opportunity for Hasbro to do the oft-requested "build a figure" concept in the Indy line.  Pack in the bottom with one figure, a slab of "sand" with another, the lid with another, the poles with two others, and there you go.

Weren't the build-a-figures, when complete, like huge, though?  The Ark is small enough to be released on it's own, or as an accessory with another figure.  If Hasbro can include the moisture vaporator/Kybuck/torture rack/etc. with a basic figure, surely they could do the Ark that way, too, if they wanted.

If the Ark on a single card seems like kind of a strange idea, they could do what they're doing with it in the Adventure Heroes line:

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7713/belloqarkahvt2.jpg)

An Ark, with a translucent Angel of Death that plugs into the base?  That would be something.

And, to use some Hasbro-speak, the Ark isn't as compelling if it's all broken-up into different pieces like that.

Interesting idea, though.

So i dug out all my Indy stuff and was very surprised with what i found. Closer to a complete collection than i thought.

Very nice.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: IJ speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on October 29, 2007, 03:31 PM
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7713/belloqarkahvt2.jpg)

Translucent spirits of death in the regular line would be simply awesome.
Title: IJ speculation
Post by: Jeff on November 9, 2007, 06:33 PM
From today's Q&A:

3. You mentioned in a previous Q&A session that there will be 30 figures in the Indy line next year. Are Indy figures in 2009 a certainty or is it more of a "wait and see" type of thing and see how 2008 goes first? We're just curious if this is going to be a toy line with legs under it like Star Wars has been, or if it will be much more subdued in character choices/variety.

**We are actively planning and producing for a multi-year run. IJ is something we are committed to and hopefully fans are excited about it as we are.  


It sounds like Hasbro is wanting to do everything possible to milk this thing for a few years.   ;)
Title: IJ speculation
Post by: Artoo on November 10, 2007, 03:46 PM
I have a feeling that'll be it for Raiders next year.
Title: IJ speculation
Post by: Paul on November 10, 2007, 06:34 PM
Ok knowing the big H like we do...or at least studying recent history with them...

If they have 30 figures planned next year (and want it to run Multi-year)....that means they are going to hold back some "Holy Grail" pardon the pun type figures so that collectors/kids will stay invested in the line for longer than first year's 30 figures...

But we also know they like major characters in every wave...since there is only 1 major character...how many versions of Indy can there be?

Then again, with the movie coming out next year...how many of next years 30 are going to be Movie year figs?  I'd wager 22....since we've seen the 8 Raiders figs..

I'm just so giddy I can't think straight....
Title: IJ speculation
Post by: speedermike on November 10, 2007, 06:52 PM
How many Indianas?...Let's Take a guess.

1. Traditional Jacket Look. (Done)

2. Without Jacket, Open Shirt (Done)

3. Very Beat Up, Sleeve Ripped Off-Temple of Doom

4. Tuxedo-Temple Of Doom

5. Traditional Jacket Look with Tie-Last Crusade

6. Nazi Uniform-Raiders

7. Map Room -Raiders

8. University Dress Clothes Raiders/Last Crusade

9. Boy Scout Indey-Last Crusade

10. Venice Street Clothes -Last Crusade

The Big Question is if they'll get into Young Indy...




Title: IJ speculation
Post by: Matt on November 11, 2007, 09:38 PM
That is a really good question...How could the Indy Hats NOT be removable?

So they can re-release it again in 2009, as an artificial way of extending the line?  "Now with removable hat!"

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And wasn't one of these Indy's suppossed to have an...ugh I hate to say it..ACTION FEATURE?

The non-jacket (Streets of Cairo) figure is said to have a whipping action-feature.

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The wife and daugther are going out of town next weekend to visit the in-laws...I am going to catalog every different possiblity for Indy figs (wardrobe wise)...YES I have no life.  Bringing it up will only be rubbing it in or "Score boarding"...

Believe it or not, I actually started a list like this several months ago, but, halfway into Temple of Doom, I started hating myself for it and gave up.  I did save it, though.  Here's what I got:

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I mentioned earlier that there's not really very many costume changes for the main characters in the Indy series, but when I was going through those screencaps yesterday, I noticed how many different outfits (or variations) Indy appears in.

Raiders:

"Typical Indy" - Hat, jacket, shirt, pants, etc.
"Dr. Jones" - Three-piece suit, spectacles
"Indy After Dark" - Robe, wife-beater
"Traveling Abroad Indy" - Suit and tie (and hat)
"Hangin' with Sallah Indy" - Shirt (buttoned halfway up, sleeves rolled up), pants, no hat
"Goin' Shopping Indy" - Same as above, but with hat, bag, and whip
"Date-Eatin' Indy" - Jacket, shirt, pants, no hat, no bag, sometimes spectacles.  Variation, maybe?
"Visiting the Map Room Indy" - Indy in Arab disguise
"Well of Souls Indy" - same as Typical Indy, but with gloves!
"Honey, It's Not the Years, It's the Mileage Indy" - Barechested Indy, with bandage wrap and removable hat
"Stolen Nazi Uniform Too Small Indy" - Self-explanatory, but also with wet hair action feature
"Stolen Nazi Uniform Just Right Indy" - Also self-explanatory, but with removable hat and bazooka!
"Tied Up to Light Pole with Marion to Watch Belloq Discover the Secrets of the Ark Indy" - Indy, still in Nazi Uniform, but without suspenders and utility belt.  Perhaps those could be removable from Stolen Nazi Uniform Just Right Indy.
"Meeting with Porkins Indy" - Indy in suit and tie, with hat.  May or may not be different from Travelin' Abroad Indy.

Temple of Doom:

"Way Cooler Than James Bond Ever Was Indy" - Indy in white tuxedo jacket, with black pants and vest
"Dinner with the Maharaja Indy" - Indy in (tweed?) jacket, bowtie, and spectacles
"No Time for Love, Dr. Jones Indy" - Indy in shirt and pants (very similar to Hangin' with Sallah Indy)
"Under the Trance of Kali Mal Indy" - Barechested Indy, with forehead markings and removable weird strap/bag thing

So, yeah.  For a character who has such a well-known, iconic look to him, there sure are a lot of minor variations and other outfits he wore.  Hasbro could keep this line going for several years, just on Indy variations alone.

I'm just so giddy I can't think straight....

Are you as giddy as a schoolboy?

 :-\
Title: IJ speculation
Post by: Jesse James on November 12, 2007, 01:06 AM
No...

"as a little girrrrrllll"

(http://www.canoe.ca/PeopleImagesM/myers_sprockets_160.jpg)

I like the lists...  I was doing one, sort of, for every possible figure in general I could think of, and quickly quit that as well.  One, I'd want them no matter how obscure, and two, it was making my head hurt differentiating the thuggee's, the Germans (blonde truck driver, original truck driver, goggles down gunner, small mechanic, large mechanic, etc.).

I was thinking the German Soldier looked like his hat's removable...  I thought the "Ultimate" basic Indy was to have a removable hat too, by something Hasbro said at SDCC, but I probably am wrong.

I'm really pumped at the thought of vehicles more than anything...  A BMW bike in desert tan and grey would be simply awesome.  The German staff cars from Raiders, and the truck, would be ideal for us 1:18 army guys...  The flying wing, while I believe a completely made up design, would also be very cool I think.  And I too would dig the boat guy (grail protector in Fez) with the boat...  Very cool.  I'm already foreseeing "French Resistance" customs made out of these Indy figures in my other social circle of nerds. :)

Cool stuff.

And Paul, maybe I'll make little cloth leggings for my Germans?  They do have the right pouches you pointed out, and that's a step ahead of even 21st's DAK (though, to be fair, their DAK with the MG does have a clip bag, just nowhere to put it).
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Matt on December 16, 2007, 06:24 PM
From CTR (http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/The_411_Hasbros_2008_Plans_110900.asp):

Quote
For 2008, fans of Indiana Jones can expect Hasbro to have their backs. At the current time, we can tell you that they have broken down virtually on the product lines in this franchise into two waves. The first waves will, where applicable, focus on the debut film Raiders Of The Lost Ark and the second waves will be based on the characters from the upcoming film, The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull. After that time we’ll see products based on the other Indy stories as well.

Expect to see the first two waves of the following in February at Toy Fair:

3 3/4” Basic Figure Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

3 ¾” Deluxe Figure Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

3 ¾” Vehicle Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Adventure Set
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Adventure Heroes Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

12” Action figure Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Titanium Series
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Beyond that, collectors can expect to see Indiana Jones Mighty Muggs, Die Cast Playsets, and of course, no modern day Hasbro collection is complete without our starchy friend, Taders Of The Lost Ark.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: DSJ™ on December 16, 2007, 06:30 PM
Indiana Jones Mighty Muggs I think we can do without.

Taders Of The Lost Ark...  :D
Title: Re: Hasbro 3.75" Figures - 2008 Wave 1
Post by: speedermike on December 16, 2007, 09:21 PM
From "COOL TOY REVIEW---HASBRO 411"

For 2008, fans of Indiana Jones can expect Hasbro to have their backs. At the current time, we can tell you that they have broken down virtually on the product lines in this franchise into two waves. The first waves will, where applicable, focus on the debut film Raiders Of The Lost Ark and the second waves will be based on the characters from the upcoming film, The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull. After that time we’ll see products based on the other Indy stories as well.

Expect to see the first two waves of the following in February at Toy Fair:

3 3/4” Basic Figure Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

3 ¾” Deluxe Figure Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

3 ¾” Vehicle Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Adventure Set
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Adventure Heroes Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

12” Action figure Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Titanium Series
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Beyond that, collectors can expect to see Indiana Jones Mighty Muggs, Die Cast Playsets, and of course, no modern day Hasbro collection is complete without our starchy friend, Taders Of The Lost Ark.

---Die Cast Playsets?
Title: Re: Hasbro 3.75" Figures - 2008 Wave 1
Post by: Matt on December 16, 2007, 10:33 PM
From "COOL TOY REVIEW---HASBRO 411"

For 2008, fans of Indiana Jones can expect Hasbro to have their backs. At the current time, we can tell you that they have broken down virtually on the product lines in this franchise into two waves. The first waves will, where applicable, focus on the debut film Raiders Of The Lost Ark and the second waves will be based on the characters from the upcoming film, The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull. After that time we’ll see products based on the other Indy stories as well.

Expect to see the first two waves of the following in February at Toy Fair:

3 3/4” Basic Figure Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

3 ¾” Deluxe Figure Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

3 ¾” Vehicle Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Adventure Set
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Adventure Heroes Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

12” Action figure Assortment
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Titanium Series
Series 1: ROTLA
Series 2: TKOTCS

Beyond that, collectors can expect to see Indiana Jones Mighty Muggs, Die Cast Playsets, and of course, no modern day Hasbro collection is complete without our starchy friend, Taders Of The Lost Ark.

---Die Cast Playsets?

Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Artoo on December 17, 2007, 11:00 AM
Maybe they're holding TOD & LC for 2009.  :-\
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: evenflow on December 17, 2007, 06:44 PM
Maybe they're holding TOD & LC for 2009.  :-\

Yeah that makes me sad as well. I actually would hae preferred if they waited to do Raiders and start with Temple or Last Crusade.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on December 17, 2007, 08:07 PM
I think that TOD and Crusade will hit in the fall.  I think that Hasbro wants to hit hard and fast with this collection.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Artoo on December 19, 2007, 11:07 AM
They said it will go on for a couple years... Might as well wait for TOD & LC until 2009. So there's actually stuff to buy.
Title: Re: IJ speculation
Post by: Jeff on December 21, 2007, 05:21 PM
From today's Hasbro Q&A:

3. OK, Indy toys. What are we looking at for the launch? Are we talking a "street date" with a big push, including store exclusives (similar to the last few movie lines you’ve done)? If so, any idea what that date will be so we can mark it on our calendars to be sure we have the day off work?

**There will be a tight on-shelf date for the IJ product line, which will be a few weeks before the movie (the theaterical date is 5/22). We can confirm that there will *not* be any store exclusives at the movie launch for IJ... we are focusing on the mainline assortments. The complete lineup will be announced (along with the on-shelf date) at Toy Fair.


So, no worrying about running around to all the different stores having to track down store exclusives for IJ... at least not at the launch anyway.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on December 22, 2007, 03:23 PM
While I doubt that there will be any Midnight-Madness type event, it would be nice to know exactly when these things hit.  Hopefully they'll be wise and make it a Saturday. I just hope that it's not like when new collections (30th AC, for example)  show up, and they sort of hit here and there.  I would really enjoy buying 10-20 figs in one shot!
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Matt on January 11, 2008, 06:01 PM
From, http://www.theprivateuniverse.co.uk/cgi-bin/showarticle.pl?section=news&articleid=2464

INDIANA JONES

INDIANA JONES 3 ¾” BASIC FIGURE ASSORT WAVE 1 - February 2008
Marion Ravenwood
Indiana Jones Cairo
Indy Temple of Doom
Cairo Swordsman
Sallah
Belloq
German Soldier with gun
Monkey Man with monkey

INDIANA JONES 3 ¾” BASIC FIGURE ASSORT WAVE 2 - April 2008
Indiana Jones
Indiana Jones
Mutt Williams
Mutt Williams
Irena Spalko
Dovchenko
Narzca Warrior
Cemetery Warrior
Russian Soldier

INDIANA JONES 3¾” BASIC FIGURE ASSORT WAVE 3 - June 2008
Indiana Jones
Dr. Henry Jones
Elsa
Young Indy
Grail Knight
Vogel

INDIANA JONES 3¾” BASIC FIGURE ASSORT WAVE 4 - September 2008

INDIANA JONES 3 ¾” DELUXE FIGURE ASSORT WAVE 1 - March 2008
Deluxe Indiana Jones with Trap
Deluxe Indiana Jones with Trap
Deluxe Indiana Jones with Horse
Deluxe German with Motorcycle

INDIANA JONES 3 ¾” DELUXE FIGURE ASSORT WAVE 2
Mutt Williams with Motorcycle - April 2008
INDIANA JONES 3 ¾” DELUXE FIGURE ASSORT WAVE 3 - May 2008
INDIANA JONES 3 ¾” DELUXE FIGURE ASSORT WAVE 4 - June 2008
INDIANA JONES 12” ASSORTED
Wave 1 - April 2008
Wave 2 - April 2008
Wave 3 - July 2008
Wave 4 - September 2008

INDIANA JONES 2” ADVENTURE HEROES 2 PACKS
Wave 1 - March 2008
Wave 2 - April 2008
Wave 3 - July 2008
Wave 4 - September 2008

INDIANA JONES VEHICLE AND PLAYSETS
Indiana Jones 3.75” Vehicle Assortment
Wave 1 - March 2008
Wave 3 - April 2008
Wave 4 - September 2008

INDIANA JONES TITANIUM DIE-CAST VEHICLES
Waves - TBC

INDIANA JONES PLAYSETS
Indiana Jones 3.75” Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Playset - TBC

Indiana Jones 1:64 Scale Die-Case Adventure Playset - TBC

INDIANA JONES ROLE PLAY
Indiana Jones Role Play – Whip - April 2008
Indiana Jones role Play - Sword - June 2008

INDIANA JONES MIGHTY MUGS
Wave 1 - July 2008
Wave 2 - September 2008
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Matt on January 11, 2008, 07:03 PM
Assuming the list above is correct (23 basic figs), and assuming Hasbro's "30 basic figs in '08" statement is true. . .  Wave Four will be the last wave of the year and will be made up of seven figures.  Further assuming that it will be a Temple of Doom wave, what are the seven figures that would make up such a wave?

I've got five definites:

Rope Bridge Indy (torn shirt and sword)
Willie Scott (no idea on costume)
Short Round (with the Maharajah packed in, maybe?)
Giant Thuggee Guard
Mola Ram

No idea on what the other two would be, though.  Most of the other secondary characters in the film would make for rather boring action figures (what kid would want a Chattar Lal action figure?).  I'd think we'd see alternate costumes for Indy and Willie before we'd see somebody else.  I still think a Club Obi-Wan Indy in tuxedo would be a swell fig, and a Club Obi-Wan Willie Scott in red dress might be nice, too (although it'd make for a lousy "action" figure).
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: evenflow on January 12, 2008, 01:37 AM
Awesome about Crusade figures if its true, I hope the next wave is temple of doom.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Morgbug on January 12, 2008, 02:27 AM
So we're theoretically 3-7 weeks away from wave 1  :o  And an amazing wave 1 it is.  That is quite an appealing list to be sure. 

Where's a Marcus Brody figure? :-\
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Jesse James on January 12, 2008, 02:29 AM
I'd add a small Thuggee to your list Matt, and Indy in Tux would be a wish of mine also...  I'm down for that.

The small Thuggee's are more common, and more like the generic German soldier we're getting in the ROLA series...
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on January 12, 2008, 12:45 PM
Wow!  If we actually get a Grail Knight I'm gonna flip!

Other thoughts...I'm sure there will be more Kingdom figs, because Marion is missing.  And I'm glad to know that the ROTLA wave is hitting sooner.  There would be a lot of confusion if KOTCS and ROTLA hit at the same time.

I'm so excited about these...I am really considering skipping all "The Force Unleashed" product.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Darth Broem on January 12, 2008, 02:16 PM
Yeah, I have to agree with that.  I will probably skip the Unleashed stuff as well.  Although I actually like the EVO Trooper and the other one.  But anyway, I hope they show most all of the Indy figures at Toy Fair.  I really want to see Dr. Henry Jones and the Grail Knight and of course all the others. 

I fear Brody won't ever make into action figure form.  Although I can see why.  He would be a new definition of pegwarmer along with Willie Scott.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on January 12, 2008, 02:48 PM
Yeah, Brody is a longshot.  However, he would be a perfect EE type exclusive in 2009.

And if Luke Skywalker can come with a moisture Vaporator, Short Round can come with a Mine Car!
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Morgbug on January 12, 2008, 03:26 PM
I fear Brody won't ever make into action figure form.  Although I can see why.  He would be a new definition of pegwarmer along with Willie Scott.

Yeah, Brody is a longshot.  However, he would be a perfect EE type exclusive in 2009.

I completely agree he'd be a huge peg warmer with respect to the other figures.  Maybe if they put a neat, must have type of accessory with him and only packed him one per case, he might move?  I really just want him to complete the collection is all, unlikely though it may be. 
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Artoo on January 13, 2008, 03:02 PM
February?  :o
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Matt on January 14, 2008, 11:10 AM
So we're theoretically 3-7 weeks away from wave 1  :o

How could Wave 1 be coming out in February when it's already the middle of January, and we haven't even seen one single carded shot yet?

I'm gonna guess we get Waves 1 and 2 at the same time, probably some time in the middle of April.

Quote
Where's a Marcus Brody figure? :-\

Yes, but more importantly, where's the love for Toht, Hasbro?

I want my Toht, dammit.  I want him to come with red-hot fireplace poker and torture-device/portable coat hanger accessories, and I want swappable heads:  Regular and melty.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Morgbug on January 14, 2008, 12:33 PM

I want my Toht, dammit.  I want him to come with red-hot fireplace poker and torture-device/portable coat hanger accessories, and I want swappable heads:  Regular and melty.

Seconded.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: evenflow on January 14, 2008, 01:09 PM

I want my Toht, dammit.  I want him to come with red-hot fireplace poker and torture-device/portable coat hanger accessories, and I want swappable heads:  Regular and melty.

Seconded.

Thirded?
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on January 14, 2008, 08:14 PM
Fourthed!
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Artoo on January 15, 2008, 07:07 PM
Fifthed!
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Darby on January 16, 2008, 12:07 AM
Sixthed!
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on January 17, 2008, 04:49 PM
Jeezus...we really need something new to talk about!
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: ctonra on January 18, 2008, 10:19 AM
Cool toy review has a Indy Advertisment form Hasbro putting the toys on Shelf May 1st.   
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Morgbug on January 18, 2008, 02:43 PM
Cool toy review has a Indy Advertisment form Hasbro putting the toys on Shelf May 1st.   

And this jives with the February release date how?  I'm guessing but with the first wave being ROTLA that doesn't quite count with respect to the Crystal Skull toys.  May 1st seems awfully close to the movie release date, I'd have thought they'd go with a greater amount of lead time, more in line with the usual April shelf date.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Matt on January 18, 2008, 02:46 PM
Cool toy review has a Indy Advertisment form Hasbro putting the toys on Shelf May 1st.   

Thanks for the link!

(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3774/hasbroindianajonesadgz1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: CHEWIE on January 18, 2008, 03:03 PM
Hmmm.... maybe they actually will have a midnight madness?  Do we know how many figures are expected for the initial launch?
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Jayson on January 18, 2008, 03:07 PM
Hmmm.... maybe they actually will have a midnight madness?  Do we know how many figures are expected for the initial launch?

I don't think there will be "enough" product really to warrant a Midnight Madness. If so, you would have thought they'd have held off on releasing the IJ lego sets. But who knows?
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: evenflow on January 18, 2008, 03:21 PM
I think midnight madness woul dbe fun but i dont think Indy has the power behind it that star wras does.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Artoo on January 18, 2008, 06:34 PM
May?  :-[
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on January 18, 2008, 09:09 PM
This is really odd, and possibly not for the US.  First, the "and the" in the movie title is missing (Indiana Jones "and the" Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.)

Secondly, the date says "1st May 2008" without any commas or anything.  Shouldn't it say "May 1st, 2008?"

Thirdly, in "Cinemas" last I checked we here in the US call them movie theaters...I think this ad is for the UK.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: CHEWIE on January 19, 2008, 01:33 AM
Regarding the midnight madness... maybe TRU won't open their doors, but I would think that Walmarts that are 24 hour stores might get their stuff ready for sales to begin at midnight... this is the same Hasbro team that is working on the Star Wars stuff, so I wouldn't rule anything out... so who knows.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Morgbug on January 19, 2008, 01:45 AM
From, http://www.theprivateuniverse.co.uk/cgi-bin/showarticle.pl?section=news&articleid=2464

INDIANA JONES

INDIANA JONES 3 ¾” BASIC FIGURE ASSORT WAVE 1 - February 2008
Marion Ravenwood
Indiana Jones Cairo
Indy Temple of Doom
Cairo Swordsman
Sallah
Belloq
German Soldier with gun
Monkey Man with monkey

INDIANA JONES 3 ¾” BASIC FIGURE ASSORT WAVE 2 - April 2008
Indiana Jones
Indiana Jones
Mutt Williams
Mutt Williams
Irena Spalko
Dovchenko
Narzca Warrior
Cemetery Warrior
Russian Soldier


I'm thinking speedermike is correct on this one.  It doesn't at all jive with Matt's earlier information, presuming it is correct.  It won't take long to find out if anything is released in February.
Title: info
Post by: ctonra on February 2, 2008, 08:42 AM
Want some toys news about indy check out this from actionfigure.com

Whilst there was no photography on Hasbro's stand, I did get chance to check out their Indiana Jones line and see a few products not previously seen before...


We've seen the Indiana Jones fgures for some time now and opinions been a bit mixed. Some people love them, some people are indifferent to them, although I've not seen (m)any peple say they hate them. Still, I'd not been sold on the new hasbro Indiana Jones range until I got to see some of the other items they're bringing out.

So let's talk about vehicles, and here's where I am very excited. Everyone remembers the desert chase from Raiders... one of my favorite Indiana Jones scenes. Well Hasbro are doing vehicles from that scene

First up is the kubelwagon (or whatever german vehicle it is); basically a german jeep with a gun on the back. I didn;t spend too much time looking at that because I was looking at the truck and being shown some of the action features. For example a whip extends from the rear axle so you can drag Indy behind it. The front grill will also spring down to recreate that part of the movie. I did ask if the door slightly unhinges but it didn't, however the rear canopy was removable to covert it to an open flat bed truck

Of course to really complete that scene you'd need Indy on horseback, which is why I'm glad to report this is one of the deluxe figures coming out. Also expect to see a German motorcyclist in this range. I also saw a set of INdiana Jones and the Arc of the Covenant, Marion and a Cairo henchman 2-pack and something that had me jumping up and down for joy: a German Soldier 2-pack. Yes, Hasbro will allow you to amass the greatest number of Nazis since the Nuremburg Rally. For the benefit of the soccer moms reading, and just in case anyone was of any doubt, real Nazis are bad, but toy german soldiers are all about discovering history through role-play.

There were no single pack figures from the new amazingly long-titled Indiana Jones and the Kindom of the Crystal Skull (or IJATKOTCS - the only movie abbreviation, that itself needs an abbreviation) but they did have the playset from the movie.

Now it seemed really, really familiar and I couldn't put my finger on it at the time but now thinking about it, I'm sure that it at least uses parts from the Mustafar Final Duel playset from the Star Wars line. You know that lava pool on that playset. That was a bubbling mud pool. In truth I was a little disappointed as it just seemed like a mountain playset, and they're never too exciting.

There was one figure on the playset though, that made me think that if Apocalypto fans were ever looking for a playset and figure, this would be ideal for them. The South American Indian reminded me very much of the ones from the opening scene from Raiders and I found myself thinking it would be great if the story of Crystal Skull somehow linked back to that opening. Got a while to wait until I find out whether that happens or not, but the figures should start popping up before then

Title: info
Post by: evenflow on February 2, 2008, 08:50 AM
SOunds interesting but i really hope the vehicles don't have pack-in figures. I didnt intend to buy the vehicles. Deluxe figures sound great though.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2008, 09:03 PM
If that truck's to-scale there's a whole other slew of collectors into this line. ;)  Same with the bike, and the German car (which I was extremely hopeful for).  THe car, more or less, should be a German staff car, and not a Kubelwaggen, which I believe weren't in any Indy film except TLC when one got put up onto the gun of the WW1 Tank Indy was duking it out on.

Outstanding stuff...  I'm geeked to get the vehicles, and a German figure 2-pack rocks!  Also glad to hear about a Cairo Thug because, well, I really wanted the guys in white robes and black hoods!  :)
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on February 2, 2008, 10:26 PM
Jesse, I think he's talking about just a German jeep.  Regardless of the name, which he might have gotten wrong, I think it's the one that went off the cliff.

This stuff sounds crazy cool.  Next we'll all be wanting the Crusade tank!
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: David on February 3, 2008, 11:08 AM
According to the Hasbro Q&A there won't be a Toht figure this year.  >:(  :'(
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2008, 11:29 AM
Yeah, I was talking about the vehicle that goes off a cliff in Raiders...  Those are German All Terrain Vehicles.  They seriously don't have much of a name beyond that.  Kubels are completely different vehilces made by Volkswagen...  The ones in Raiders were real.  I call them Staff Cars because of a use they saw often due to their more spacious designs, but they were used for just about everything, like Raiders.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Artoo on February 5, 2008, 10:23 PM
I can't wait until April or May.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Matt on April 5, 2008, 06:23 PM
Curious response from Hasbro, regarding some future vehicles:

Quote
We haven't seen the Indy line at retail yet, and already interest is focussing beyond your initial offerings - specifically on vehicles. The 'Last Crusade Tank' and 'Raider's Flying Wing' - are these something you've considered producing? (TPU.co.uk, 04/04/08) (http://www.theprivateuniverse.co.uk/cgi-bin/showarticle.pl?section=news&articleid=2845)

     We are indeed considering the Flying Wing for the vehicle line and are looking at whether it can be done in our $19.99 assortment (if we did it, it would be in '09 at the earliest). However, the Tank is just too big to do in our $19.99 vehicle line. As we don't have another, higher priced assortment in the IJ line, this one will have to be a "wait and see" based on the response to the IJ line, and possibly tied to future movies if we can't get it done for this one. The entire IJ line will have a shelf-date of 5/1.

Now, I'm not a hardcore vehicle scale guy, but I'd figure the tank would be easier to do for $20 than the Flying Wing would.

But what I found most curious was the "possibly tied to future movies" part.  Did they just subconsciously let it slip that there may be more Indy flicks in the works?
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Nathan on April 5, 2008, 07:00 PM
Good catch! An odd choice of words indeed.

Originally I was thinking that it was odd on another level: any future movies would be sequels, set after IV, so there'd be no reason we'd see Nazi tanks. Unless they're planning on just redecoing the toy as a Soviet tank and trying to pass it off that way. Then I thought they might be looking at more Young Indy stories that would potentially feature Nazis.

But then I realized it probably just meant utilizing a new movie launch to release some items tied to the previous episodes.

(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-interesting-cat.jpg)
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on April 5, 2008, 11:01 PM
I really hate the way modern assortments work.   So you can't make the tank for 19.99...Make it 29.99!  Make it 39.99! It it really that complicated?  Does it really need an assortment?  Back in the vinatge Kenner days, it seemed that every toy cost what it cost.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Jesse James on April 6, 2008, 02:35 AM
I'm gonna go on a limb and guess that the reasons they'd consider the wing over the tank are these...

-The flying wing can be scaled down easier to fit the $20 assortment because it's essentially one shape you just need to make smaller.  Not much to it then.

-The tank's a more complex vehicle in design than the plane...  More possible moving parts and things, more overall "detail" you'd need to add to it perhaps. 

I'm just guessing on those things, but they seem feasible to me.

As far as the tank goes though, it's not really accurate to call it a "Nazi" tank since it was actually given to the Germans in TLC by the host country they were in (in exchange for a RR Phantom?).  Also, the tank is actually modeled after a "German Mk.7" tank from World War I, though Mk.7's were British tanks repainted by the Germans.

Either way, the tank's actually from a whole other era completely... 

Personally I think the tank makes more sense in the $20 scale because it is indeed smaller and it's more action-oriented what with the fist-fight on it, but Hasbro's mentioned somewhere in the past how they need to feasibly scale-down a ship or whatever so it looks believable, but fits the pricepoint...  Maybe that's playing into this?

The AT-AP is much more comical looking compared to a fighter for instance...  The tiny hatches and things really make it look silly to me by comparison.  Maybe that's a reasoning for this?

Either way, I agree with speedermike completely...  Why not just release a $30 assortment with some of the larger vehicles? 

As always the scale would be important to me, but hey at least it'd get the things out there to people who want them.

I think the flying wing will look odd myself since Indy and the German thug fight under it, but whatever.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on April 6, 2008, 02:05 PM
I think that the Nazis got to USE the tank in exchange for the Rolls...
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Jesse James on April 7, 2008, 02:07 AM
Well, let's face it...  They broke it, they bought it.  You know Hitler got a bill one day for it and it said "paid...  One Rolls Royce Phantom...  Thanks!"

All the while he's wondering why he traded a WW1 tank for a RR...  What a tool!
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on April 7, 2008, 11:26 PM
Jesse, maybe we could formulate a question for the QnA about how assortments work, and if they seem to trap Hasbro into certain prices, as opposed to the products deciding the prices.
Title: Confirmed for 2009?
Post by: speedermike on May 24, 2008, 11:16 PM
I finally had a chance this weekend to set up all of the IJ stuff, and it looks great all together.  I am really lookng forward to TLC, TOD and beyond.  So, what is confirmed for post TOD?

Toht (with alternate melting face rumored during this week's Q&A?)
Dietrich

That it so far?
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Matt on July 8, 2008, 08:39 PM
I don't know if it's been discussed here or not, but some dude over at Rebelscum reported that the following are in Walmart*'s computer:

Marion
German Mechanic
Toht
German Outfit (Indy, right?)
Satipo (!)

And Dietrich was confirmed in a Q&A at some point.

Some fantastic figures on deck for next year--too bad they'll never see the light of day thanks to the first two waves clogging up pegs nationwide.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Reid on July 8, 2008, 08:57 PM
Sounds like a solid wave to me- The only figure I have no interest in is the German Disguise Indy.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Morgbug on July 9, 2008, 12:27 AM
Sounds like a solid wave to me- The only figure I have no interest in is the German Disguise Indy.

Ah, but you must as it was one of the vintage figures ;)

I don't know if it's been discussed here or not, but some dude over at Rebelscum reported that the following are in Walmart*'s computer:

Marion
German Mechanic
Toht
German Outfit (Indy, right?)
Satipo (!)

And Dietrich was confirmed in a Q&A at some point.

Some fantastic figures on deck for next year--too bad they'll never see the light of day thanks to the first two waves clogging up pegs nationwide.

Sadly, I fear you are correct sir.  If they go up for pre-order somewhere, I'll certainly jump on that right away.  That's a bloody stellar selection of figures.   :-\
Title: Re: Hasbro 3.75" Prototype
Post by: Jesse James on March 19, 2009, 02:43 AM
(http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/35/f0/d310_1.JPG)

This prototype's for sale, and I find it very interesting as it's a German with clearly no hat...  The German troops seemed to have a separate molded, but non-removable hat on the basic figures.  This trooper though appears to me to be an all-new headsculpt we'd not seen.  Could this have been possibly an attempt to make a specific German?

I mention that only because his hair/face sculpt, at least to me, resemble the last German Indy dispatches from the truck in RotLA (the guy that goes under the truck's wheels after getting tossed through the window).

The truck was, at olne time, advertised to have a smash-out window feature (I 100% know I saw this mentioned at one point), that got nixed for whatever reason.  Maybe this figure was intended to go with the truck?

Just a fun little "Hey, that'll never happen!" thing to discuss, as with the rest of the doomed line.
Title: Re: Hasbro 3.75" Prototype
Post by: David on March 19, 2009, 12:05 PM
Hmmm. Interesting. When I saw that, I thought right away of the deluxe set with the motorcycle/sidecar that never came out. Maybe he was gonna be in the deluxe line, to ride in the sidecar? The motorcycle did appear briefly in RotLA, and I doubt Hasbro would've made a deluxe set that included two figures (Indy and Henry Sr.) and the sidecar.

The truck theory is interesting too, and he does bear a striking resemblance to that particular German. I remember the smashing window feature too so you may be on to something, Jesse.

Perhaps he'll show up in 2011. It is interesting though to see that they were possibly going to start doing Germans with removable hats. I guess it makes sense, because they probably would've given the Indy in German Disguise figure a removable hat when he was released, so why not do it for specific German soldiers seen in the movies?

Again, perhaps we'll learn more if/when the line returns in 2011.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Morgbug on April 4, 2009, 12:27 AM
If this stuff does come back in 2011, I'll be pleased.  I'll be even more pleased if they make some effort to have the figures able to stand on their own.   ::)  I've been attempting to set these up and the modern figures, from a standability viewpoint are shiite.  WTF is up with the Grail Knight's right leg?  Is he going to kick someone in the knackers?  Horrid effort. 
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Ryan on April 4, 2009, 01:24 AM
He is like 600 years old and could barely stand in the movie... Kidding aside I totally agree. I had to do a balancing act with his cape to get him to stand. More of his weight is on the cape than on his legs so he seems quite a bit shorter that my other figures. Why is is that Hasbro seems to like goofy leg stances so much? Is it really that difficult to make a figure with straight legs that can actually stand on its own? Slanted legs don't add any play value for the kiddies and they aren't cheaper to produce. Therefore there really is no excuse for it. My TOD Thugee always wanted to tip over backward too.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: David on April 4, 2009, 11:54 AM
I think the Giant Thugee is the worst at standing. His feet seem to be curved and they just can't support the rest of the figure's bulkiness.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: Diddly on April 5, 2009, 06:51 PM
My Mola Rom also has a hard time standing. Doesn't help that his feet are sculpted weird and he has no articulation below the waist.
Title: Re: New Indy Toys - Rumors and Speculation!
Post by: speedermike on April 5, 2009, 08:59 PM
Guys, is the possibility if new figures in 2011 pure speculation?  Or was this actually mentioned elsewhere?